Exceptional. Don’t think I’d have ever figured this out without your video. I’ve stopped coming over the top, while naturally shifting my weight to my left - without consciously thinking about anything but rotating my shoulders as described in your video
I somehow have to remind myself to rewatch this 3x a year. This is a game changer. Watched this like 8 months ago and am now rewatching it, this is a key for my swing to work and it's easy to get away from
Going to say right now, that this is most likely, the greatest contribution to the education of the masses, about the golf swing, in the entire history of golf - simply incredible.
Thank you for being a loyal watcher! If you ever need help with your swing, we do offer a couple different options on our website 🙂. If not, please keep watching the videos here 🙏
Best golf instructors on youtube no exceptions. The last time i commented i was down to 11 from 15 having gradually implemented the techniques from your videos, I am now down to 10 and and just 0.5 away from been a single handicap golfer.This is the best breakdown of shoulder movement I have ever seen!! Amazing work
I just discovered this channel. Your 3D animation and explanation of shoulder prostration and retraction is eye-opening. After just a few slow motion practice swings, I could see and feel how “widening” the swing should work. I instantly had much less left arm bend in my backswing. I never understood how other players could keep their left arm straighter than me until now. I just thought that I didn’t have the flexibility.
I am SO glad I found your videos. I haven't played much in the past 25 years, but I'm now 70 and retired, looking to recapture my game and improve on what I used to have. I think with your help I can accomplish this. Thank you!
Wow Guys! Your video not only gave me 20 to 30 more yards in driver carry distance, but by getting into the slot more consistently, my blocks left and slices right have virtually went away. It’s been the holy grail for me! Bravo and thank you. Jim, 66 y/o. P.S. Stretching the shoulder and back muscles are a huge part of my pre-game routine.
The comment you make at 16:00 is a game changer and could probably use it's own video. I've been golfing for 30 years and about a 6 handicap and started struggling with a little over-the-top and this is exactly why. I simply pulled that shoulder down and back at address and kept that feeling and it immediately turned into a tight draw. Feeling that shoulder down and back also forced me to line up more square, which felt too far right, but it wasn't. Another amazing video guys!
I started golfing less than a month ago and I am so grateful your videos exist. My biggest goal is to start off with as few bad habits as possible and knowing what issues other golfers have and ways to fix them is extremely valuable. Thank you!
Rewatching this. The main point I want to make is how much you gentlemen have enhanced my golfing experience!!! I feel very fortunate to be playing really good golf at the age of 62 - was a 2hdcp for a couple of weeks this summer! DEFINITELY couldn’t have done it without your sage expertise!!! ❤️
Being a sports medicine physical therapist, this is the BEST way I understand the golf swing. Biomechanics. Thank you guys. I definitely adduct. I hope you guys do a similar of your already awesome hip rotation pros vs ams video! That had been my favorite one - until this!
I have watched a ton of swing instruction videos on youtube and you guys at AMG are without a doubt one of the best! I am a single digit handicap - but at times struggle with a "stuck' feeling in my backswing that causes me to throw the club. In my first practice session after watching this video, I gained 4-5 mph (12-15 yards) with my 7 iron (175 carry) - with less effort. Thanks a million fellas - keep up the great work!
Awesome job putting this info to work straight away👏. I don’t think we mentioned it in the video, but feeling easier is one of the most common comments we here when guys first learn about this. Great job!
This is not discussed enough. I understood this from your previous video, and it was a game changer for me. Over time I kinda fell back to just turning the chest and all the problems that follow. I'll save this video to my library and watch it every month. I think this ties in with re-centering. This is gold guys. 👍
I just started doing Monday qulaifiers for the Champions Tour. I STUMBLED upon this ovement without knowing exactly how I was hitting it longer and swallowing my swing. Absolute gold!!! We will share this with our golf clients in our Fore Seasons program as an all expense paid trip to your facility for a lesson!
This is incredible what you guys were able to visual show here with your understanding of the golf swing and the aid of this new software. Fantastic stuff guys.
Wow! Another video with instant impact, two in a row. I notice the feeling in the right arm being very different - makes sense, it's not cramped up now. Thank you so much. Best golf instruction channel on YT by far
I wish I could leave you guys a tip! this information is worth a lot to me. I have played for decades and am a plus handicap, so over tons of trial and error i have come to suspect that a good backswing "involves the shoulder blades", but this really explains more than I had figured out. Thank you guys, this is really the cutting edge of golf instruction
As with the lead arm adduction video, I'm going to watch this a gazillion times. Wow. You guys are breaking ground in golf teaching. I'm so blessed to have a local instructor here in Cali who utilizes the same concepts and relies on the info you guys put out. Do you guys interact with Saso M or Phil C? It seems like your ability to put these concepts into digestible form with their scientific research is a match made in golf heaven.
I think the reason we don't see the right shoulder in the proper back position is because most older golfers think that the right elbow needs to be tucked which moves the joint forward like they see in Ben Hogan 5 Lessons of Golf. Sometimes what the eyes see is transformed into misconception and not actually what is really happening in the golf swing. First time I've heard someone cover this, thank you!
Such a great point. The “transformed into misconception” is a great way to say it. Thanks hen add in all how we all see things a bit differently and it’s inevitable that what we think happens will start deviate from what does happen. Thanks for commenting.
Dont stop pull hooking. You want a weak slice that 100 yards shorter and equally off line?? A pull hook swing is like an engine that starts but has bad timing. A slice is an engine that just sputters and wont start. A pull hook can be turned into a draw but a slice never turns into a fade. One simple drill (holdig a towell under the right armpit) can give a bad pull hooker the feeling of correct timing. There is more correction required of course. But tuning a slice move like that is impossible. Bottom line is the golf swing PULLS the club through the strike. Allways. Teach a slicer to pull hook is the first step in their rehabilitation. 😅😅
Hello Guys it's not always easy to translate and understand what you want to explain for a person all the way from Belgium. But with you're professional explenation and visualisation I did understand well. This importend shoulder turn could not have been explained better. Thank you both very much!
Wow! Just wow! I, too, have had Tony’s misconceptions about how the shoulder and arms are supposed to work in the backswing, and consequently, like Tony, my left arm breaks down, too, as it runs against the chest. I’ve always explained it away as a lack of suppleness and flexibility. This is one video I will rewatch multiple times in an effort to master the correct shoulder movement due to a more informed conception. Thanks again for your amazing work. Incredible.
Absolutely fantastic. I've been taking lessons and this has never been pointed out to me. Thank you! It would help to see a real person doing the different stages of practices.
This is awesome. Over bending the trail arm is an epidemic I see it daily on my lesson tee. This is a great video showing some new reasons why and how to combat it. Great work
This is the most eye-opening video I have ever seen on the subject of the golf swing. And I´ve seen quite a few. I have lived in the belief that the golfer needs to pull his shoulder blades "together", which totally messes up the left arm movement. Seeing it animated like this is just incredibly helpful. Thank you!
At the age of 67, I still had a good shoulder turn prior to seeing this video, but now it is more effortless and I actually have added distance after incorporating the concepts of this video. My buddies refer to me as the geriatric gumby.
Guys - I started taking my golf serious about two years ago. I take lessons from a top notch pro in town. He talks to be about things I need to do during my lessons, but it doesn't just click right off the bat. I started watching your videos a few months ago, and because I am such a visual learner, I can watch your vids and go straight to the range and get an instant impact. I have even turned my teacher onto your channels. Thanks so much and keep it up.
@@TRaddcliff I have no problem paying for golf instruction. I do not expect golf pros to deliver content for free. And I do appreciate Athletic Motion and others offering SO much to it's subscribers both paid and un paid. My question intent was to get more clarity and info. If they would have provided a link (event if it costs money) that would have been fine...but nothing was provided to help point me in any direction. One of the problems with having sooo much content to access, is actually finding the specific content they were referencing and what I was looking for.
Wow! played golf for over 30 years at a good level and I've never considered this. Tried it on my simulator today and the ballspeed increase was quite significant. Much easier to maintain lag with one arm pushing and the other pulling, also the arm structure on the backswing was much more solid without the arms bending and allowing the clubhead to continue travelling past horizontal! Love the limp archer graphic....
This video is like the last piece of the puzzle i have been looking for. I have been trying to cure the 100+ degree right elbow with a right shoulder that is too far forward, best video yet.
this was exactly my problem too, just been to the range and had a fantastic session following these tips I felt lifting my right shoulder in the back swing helped
What a great tool you all have here. Showing ‘bone’ movements and relating it to the mechanics of the swing is eye opening. Keep doing what you are doing.
Love this. I teach full time. I feel like I’m basically teaching this already, but no way I could explain in that level of anatomical detail or have quite that depth of understanding for why. Thank you for posting. Love y’all’s videos.
We certainly didn't invent good shoulder movements. Great players have been doing it like this since the tweed coat days, lol. We do hope to help by being able to finally show it to the golfers looking to improve. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment, and thanks for already teaching the correct shoulder turn! 👊
Dear AMG-team, I feel so sorry for me that I only found your genius video after more than two years. It solved the majority of my takeaway problems (width, early turn, inside roll, inconsistency, just to name a few). The takeaway feel established after following and understanding your advice is priceless. Thanks a million. You answered so many questions at once to me. Best biomechanical content on the web by miles. Thanks again!!!!
Awesome explanation! You guys keep helping me change my concepts. So glad to part of the AMG+ community which is helping me take these fundamental concept changes and making them a reality in my swing.
Nice... You really get to see not only how it's done, but when you try it.. The first few times I notice small muscles were tense in there somewhere and I had it all locked up somehow.. Great stuff.
@@AthleticMotionGolf Had 2 lessons when i started golf 12 yrs ago.The second one of stuffing a towel under my armpits (to cure a massive overswing caused by the 1st!) gave me 5 yrs of short (but straight) golf and a saying heave! "Connection" is an illusion caused by correct sequencing and athletic motion.
This is brilliant. Exactly what I needed to understand the physique of what I am trying to do. Love that. Let me know what I can do for you guys, apart from spreading the word.
We do offer online memberships and training programs were we get to see your swings on a regular basis, but we try to give away as much valuable info as we possibly can 🙂
🤯🤯🤯 this is insane. Truly amazing stuff. This new 3rd is a whole new level. (I can’t wait to show my wife…. She was an sports ortho PA. This might finally get her golfing with me… and the driver head covers that look like dogs) thanks!!
Wonderful video. Doing what you are showing here is what also produces the sought after full turn back, so that you get your back toward the target as much as your body will allow. That full turn combined with focusing on keeping the right (trail) arm as extended (or unfolded) as possible and the left arm as straight as possible, is what creates a wider arc and more swing speed, more distance, better trajectory, better contact. It definitely takes some extra effort to make that fuller turn back, certainly at my age (80) and you have to concentrate on giving your body time to do it, not rushing the downswing. If you make the turn back doing what you show here, you will also find that your hands at the top of the backswing are straight out behind you, while if you fold the left arm across the chest as your client did initially, your hands will end up trapped too far behind you, making it difficult to get back to the ball correctly. Thank you very much for a super lesson.
Wow: when the student is ready the teacher appears. I have been involved in Golf for 40 years. I have watched many many UA-cam videos, yours included. And this along with your hip : Pros vs Ams video are invaluable. Thanks for your great work. Would love to see you both in Australia one day.
As a biomechanics aficionado and physician I really appreciate your descriptions of the movements most pros use. Brilliant explanation and pictures revealing the left collar bone and it’s movement but what about the right, including the right scapula in both backswing and downswing! Please do a complimentary video isolating those movements as well.
Lots and lots of great information in this video. Want the “golden nugget” that will improve your game? Fast forward to 15:50 and listen to them describe the “drawing the bow” drill. I use a split grip to exaggerate the feeling of pulling back with the trail hand/shoulder and do this drill every time I start getting over-the-top again and boom…magic fix! Great feeling and does wonders for strike and power!
Reminiscent of the Golf Channel Swing Expedition episode with Chuck Cook which was one of the best-and simplest- descriptions of the golf swing I’ve ever seen. Rear shoulder over the rear heel, rear shoulder down to the ball, rear shoulder to the target.
this totally helped eliminate getting stuck on the backswing. I always wondered why I couldn't get my trail elbow in front of my trail hip on downswing. it was that adduction piece at setup with takeaway and backswing. a "fake" turn. love it!
Great content, very helpful and also entertaining to watch. Wish this info was available 30 years ago when I started playing golf ! Thanks Mike and Shaun.
@@AthleticMotionGolf I don’t think I’ve even seen many golf tips or videos out there that describe the role of pronating the shoulder blade and reducing the adduction angle. It’s really insightful! I struggled a lot with way over adducting the left shoulder and getting it stuck behind. It even can cause impingement pain issues over time. I just didn’t have a good understanding of what to do to fix it. It makes a lot of sense now to think of how the shoulder blade and collar bone pivots sort of as a whole. That quickly fixed my issues once I realized this. The swing feels much easier now to time and be able to move hands fast into hitting area etc. this of course relates to the other great video about clubhead speed from a while back on here.
Great information! The shoulder movement was something I hadn’t thought of. I’m a 61 year old golfer and enjoy out driving my younger golf buddies. This info should keep that going!!
Thanks for video. It has been a game changer for me. Specifically, the importance of the right shoulder turning back (pulling back on the bow). There are 2 more concepts that have significantly changed my swing for the better…the grip and higher hands at top of back swing.
I'm so incredibly glad I found this channel and so incredibly disappointed that it's never been suggested for me before. Instant subscribe. Your videos have been so informative and really clarify & drive home concepts that I've certainly heard of but never truly understood. The deeper "why" for certain motions that my teacher has been telling me to incorporate. Now they make sense I've already shared and recommended your channel to about 5 guys in my golf group who I think will also enjoy it
Such an simple concept, well delivered. I am left handed but play golf right handed. When I am at the driving range, after 50 or so balls, I feel a tendon stress in my left elbow. Applying your shoulder (roll) technique has helped the golfers elbow. Nice one guys, keep it going.
I’ve watched so many amg videos and learned so much and definitely improved my swing and my ball striking but I couldn’t for the life of me figure out why I tend to go across at the top of my swing and why I get so steep on the down swing. I think this video just showed me why. I haven’t been turning my shoulders enough.
Hi guys, you make your points with such ease and knowledge!!!! I must say it is nice to have 2 such knowledgeable fishing guides giving such inside golf information!!!
Yep that's me near the end. Right shoulder comes forward and club gets steep. Also noticed most pros have a very high right shoulder on the backswing while my turn is too level. If I don't go steep with a level turn, then the club will go outward and I'd miss the ball completely.
This might be my first comment on youtube. I tried this and it's a game changer. I've always heard about getting shoulder rotation by holding an alignment stick across the shoulders, then mimic your swing. Never once have a heard that I should be pulling my left shoulder (I'm left handed) back during my back swing! Thanks for the thorough breakdown.
Great video. I'm the guy your targeting in this lesson. The slumped right shoulder is the clue. I get lazy in rounds and fall into this pattern. Thanks for the amazing visuals. 👏
Hey guys, this video is so awesome. I’ve worked on using this protraction/retraction pattern in my backswing. But can I ask, what is the feel for this in the downswing? Do you reverse this movement, or do you let the arms lower from that protracted/retracted position? Or is it both? I’d love it if you guys made a video breaking down the answer!
This detailed explanation of shoulder rotation has supercharged my swing in a way I never thought possible. It was nearly instantaneous with a warmup on the range and then out to the course. It just made everything about my swing better. It's a nearly effortless improvement.
Superb video. When it comes to technical swing analytics.... you guys are in a league of your own! Like Tony, I had watched the old Pro V Ams on this subject but missed the subtly of the necessary shoulder movements. These new graphics make it so clear I cant wait to get out and try it!
![[PROS vs. AMS] | Create LAG In Your Golf Swing](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4FllwDHWGxk/mqdefault.jpg)
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This was the most informative video I’ve ever saw on golf. Period.
Love it, thanks for checking it out. We hope it helps!
Absolutely 100% agree. Great video - tried it out this week, night and day difference in consistency of contact.
Absolutely amazing. Thanks so much guys.
Exceptional. Don’t think I’d have ever figured this out without your video. I’ve stopped coming over the top, while naturally shifting my weight to my left - without consciously thinking about anything but rotating my shoulders as described in your video
@@bezraznizu awesome job 👏. What made it click for you, the right or left side?
I somehow have to remind myself to rewatch this 3x a year. This is a game changer. Watched this like 8 months ago and am now rewatching it, this is a key for my swing to work and it's easy to get away from
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Going to say right now, that this is most likely, the greatest contribution to the education of the masses, about the golf swing, in the entire history of golf - simply incredible.
Wow! Thanks so much for the kind words🙏. We certainly wish we had known this years ago for our own swings lol.
I've been watching this channel for about a year now, and I'm thankful (and amazed) that you guys provide all this information for free!
Thank you for being a loyal watcher! If you ever need help with your swing, we do offer a couple different options on our website 🙂. If not, please keep watching the videos here 🙏
Best golf instructors on youtube no exceptions. The last time i commented i was down to 11 from 15 having gradually implemented the techniques from your videos, I am now down to 10 and and just 0.5 away from been a single handicap golfer.This is the best breakdown of shoulder movement I have ever seen!! Amazing work
Wow!!! We’re so happy for you! Keep improving
Love the way you guys show in 3D format and explain what is being done wrong and then how to do it right. Keep up the excellent work
Awesome. Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching 👊
I just discovered this channel. Your 3D animation and explanation of shoulder prostration and retraction is eye-opening. After just a few slow motion practice swings, I could see and feel how “widening” the swing should work. I instantly had much less left arm bend in my backswing. I never understood how other players could keep their left arm straighter than me until now. I just thought that I didn’t have the flexibility.
I am SO glad I found your videos. I haven't played much in the past 25 years,
but I'm now 70 and retired, looking to recapture my game and improve on what I used to have. I think with your help I can accomplish this. Thank you!
Wow Guys! Your video not only gave me 20 to 30 more yards in driver carry distance, but by getting into the slot more consistently, my blocks left and slices right have virtually went away. It’s been the holy grail for me! Bravo and thank you. Jim, 66 y/o.
P.S. Stretching the shoulder and back muscles are a huge part of my pre-game routine.
Holy crap guys. You just brought this to a whole new level. The graphics are over the top. Thank you for everything. Extremely helpful.
Thansk for the kind words!!!
This Pros vs Ams series has been, by far, the best youtube golf lesson for me! It really helps me understand what ams like myself is doing wrong.
that was our hope! Glad it helps
The comment you make at 16:00 is a game changer and could probably use it's own video. I've been golfing for 30 years and about a 6 handicap and started struggling with a little over-the-top and this is exactly why. I simply pulled that shoulder down and back at address and kept that feeling and it immediately turned into a tight draw. Feeling that shoulder down and back also forced me to line up more square, which felt too far right, but it wasn't. Another amazing video guys!
glad it helped!! We have fixed a lot of golfers with this feel
I started golfing less than a month ago and I am so grateful your videos exist. My biggest goal is to start off with as few bad habits as possible and knowing what issues other golfers have and ways to fix them is extremely valuable. Thank you!
Rewatching this. The main point I want to make is how much you gentlemen have enhanced my golfing experience!!! I feel very fortunate to be playing really good golf at the age of 62 - was a 2hdcp for a couple of weeks this summer! DEFINITELY couldn’t have done it without your sage expertise!!! ❤️
@@louislane1968 That’s all you bud! Great playing 🫡
Being a sports medicine physical therapist, this is the BEST way I understand the golf swing. Biomechanics. Thank you guys. I definitely adduct. I hope you guys do a similar of your already awesome hip rotation pros vs ams video! That had been my favorite one - until this!
Thanks!!! WE will do a hip video also :)
I have watched a ton of swing instruction videos on youtube and you guys at AMG are without a doubt one of the best! I am a single digit handicap - but at times struggle with a "stuck' feeling in my backswing that causes me to throw the club. In my first practice session after watching this video, I gained 4-5 mph (12-15 yards) with my 7 iron (175 carry) - with less effort. Thanks a million fellas - keep up the great work!
Awesome job putting this info to work straight away👏. I don’t think we mentioned it in the video, but feeling easier is one of the most common comments we here when guys first learn about this. Great job!
This is not discussed enough. I understood this from your previous video, and it was a game changer for me. Over time I kinda fell back to just turning the chest and all the problems that follow. I'll save this video to my library and watch it every month. I think this ties in with re-centering. This is gold guys. 👍
It ties in nicely with re-centering 👍🏻🏌️♂️
I just started doing Monday qulaifiers for the Champions Tour. I STUMBLED upon this ovement without knowing exactly how I was hitting it longer and swallowing my swing. Absolute gold!!! We will share this with our golf clients in our Fore Seasons program as an all expense paid trip to your facility for a lesson!
great!
This is incredible what you guys were able to visual show here with your understanding of the golf swing and the aid of this new software. Fantastic stuff guys.
Thanks for checking it out. We’ve already learned a bunch from the software. We can’t wait to share it🤓
The fact this info is free on a UA-cam channel is incredible. This is awesome and AMG always delivers the heat!
Thanks so much !!!
Wow! Another video with instant impact, two in a row. I notice the feeling in the right arm being very different - makes sense, it's not cramped up now. Thank you so much. Best golf instruction channel on YT by far
Great! Thanks for the kind words !
I wish I could leave you guys a tip! this information is worth a lot to me. I have played for decades and am a plus handicap, so over tons of trial and error i have come to suspect that a good backswing "involves the shoulder blades", but this really explains more than I had figured out. Thank you guys, this is really the cutting edge of golf instruction
you guys continue to amaze me with the quality of content and explanations! This vid is very eye opening!
Thank you were glad it helped :)
This is primo instruction. You guys have stepped it up with the computer models and the collaboration of two is another benefit. Thank you
You guys are insane. All this tech!
You must include this drill into the flight fix series. Just brilliant stuff.
The Flight Fix is the Godfather to all of this🤓
So good. This video highlights brilliantly the Mike Bender wall drill. Sharing with others!
As with the lead arm adduction video, I'm going to watch this a gazillion times. Wow. You guys are breaking ground in golf teaching. I'm so blessed to have a local instructor here in Cali who utilizes the same concepts and relies on the info you guys put out. Do you guys interact with Saso M or Phil C? It seems like your ability to put these concepts into digestible form with their scientific research is a match made in golf heaven.
Thank you for your way of clearing up misconceptions to improve our swing
thanks for watching!!!
Phenomenal! Can't thank you guys enough for the crystal clear explanation. AMG debunks golf swing myths again!
Thanks for watching! Any suggestions for the next one?
@@AthleticMotionGolf Causes of hand path coming in too deep too early (I'd imagine some of that ties to this)
@@MichaelWilliams-qw8yd very much so👍
FABULOUS lesson!!! You guys are the best!
I think the reason we don't see the right shoulder in the proper back position is because most older golfers think that the right elbow needs to be tucked which moves the joint forward like they see in Ben Hogan 5 Lessons of Golf. Sometimes what the eyes see is transformed into misconception and not actually what is really happening in the golf swing. First time I've heard someone cover this, thank you!
Such a great point. The “transformed into misconception” is a great way to say it. Thanks hen add in all how we all see things a bit differently and it’s inevitable that what we think happens will start deviate from what does happen. Thanks for commenting.
Dont stop pull hooking. You want a weak slice that 100 yards shorter and equally off line??
A pull hook swing is like an engine that starts but has bad timing. A slice is an engine that just sputters and wont start.
A pull hook can be turned into a draw but a slice never turns into a fade.
One simple drill (holdig a towell under the right armpit) can give a bad pull hooker the feeling of correct timing. There is more correction required of course. But tuning a slice move like that is impossible.
Bottom line is the golf swing PULLS the club through the strike. Allways. Teach a slicer to pull hook is the first step in their rehabilitation.
😅😅
Love the new 3D models. Adds an even greater level of clarity to the lesson. Great job as usual!
Thanks for the kind words !!
That was a such a cool complement to the previous lead arm adduction video. You guys continue to amaze me. Please keep up the great content!
Thanks so much!! appreciate the kind words
Hello Guys it's not always easy to translate and understand what you want to explain for a person all the way from Belgium. But with you're professional explenation and visualisation I did understand well. This importend shoulder turn could not have been explained better.
Thank you both very much!
Amazing difference, 40 years of golf and I didn’t know this! Can’t wait for the next club comp, I’ll show those kids a thing or two!
Show those young bucks no mercy!😊
Wow! Just wow! I, too, have had Tony’s misconceptions about how the shoulder and arms are supposed to work in the backswing, and consequently, like Tony, my left arm breaks down, too, as it runs against the chest. I’ve always explained it away as a lack of suppleness and flexibility. This is one video I will rewatch multiple times in an effort to master the correct shoulder movement due to a more informed conception. Thanks again for your amazing work. Incredible.
Many times its not a flexibility issue..its a concept issue :)
Absolutely fantastic. I've been taking lessons and this has never been pointed out to me. Thank you!
It would help to see a real person doing the different stages of practices.
We should be able to make that happen🤓
Best golf video, period! Instantly increase overall distance with every club in my bag. Thank you for what you do.
This is awesome. Over bending the trail arm is an epidemic I see it daily on my lesson tee. This is a great video showing some new reasons why and how to combat it. Great work
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This is the most eye-opening video I have ever seen on the subject of the golf swing. And I´ve seen quite a few. I have lived in the belief that the golfer needs to pull his shoulder blades "together", which totally messes up the left arm movement. Seeing it animated like this is just incredibly helpful. Thank you!
At the age of 67, I still had a good shoulder turn prior to seeing this video, but now it is more effortless and I actually have added distance after incorporating the concepts of this video. My buddies refer to me as the geriatric gumby.
hahahha love it
Guys - I started taking my golf serious about two years ago. I take lessons from a top notch pro in town. He talks to be about things I need to do during my lessons, but it doesn't just click right off the bat. I started watching your videos a few months ago, and because I am such a visual learner, I can watch your vids and go straight to the range and get an instant impact. I have even turned my teacher onto your channels. Thanks so much and keep it up.
Would love to see a live lesson where you work on this issue with a golfer.
We have a few videos where we do that 🏌️♂️👍🏻. One of our live lessons does for sure
@@AthleticMotionGolf link?
I volunteer
@@tickvball you can see it for a subscription fee ;)
I DO appreciate the videos we do get to see.
@@TRaddcliff I have no problem paying for golf instruction. I do not expect golf pros to deliver content for free. And I do appreciate Athletic Motion and others offering SO much to it's subscribers both paid and un paid. My question intent was to get more clarity and info. If they would have provided a link (event if it costs money) that would have been fine...but nothing was provided to help point me in any direction. One of the problems with having sooo much content to access, is actually finding the specific content they were referencing and what I was looking for.
Wow! played golf for over 30 years at a good level and I've never considered this. Tried it on my simulator today and the ballspeed increase was quite significant. Much easier to maintain lag with one arm pushing and the other pulling, also the arm structure on the backswing was much more solid without the arms bending and allowing the clubhead to continue travelling past horizontal! Love the limp archer graphic....
Glad it helped !!!!
This video is like the last piece of the puzzle i have been looking for. I have been trying to cure the 100+ degree right elbow with a right shoulder that is too far forward, best video yet.
You got it, there’s not enough room to straighten it out. Thanks for watching 👊
this was exactly my problem too, just been to the range and had a fantastic session following these tips
I felt lifting my right shoulder in the back swing helped
What a great tool you all have here. Showing ‘bone’ movements and relating it to the mechanics of the swing is eye opening. Keep doing what you are doing.
Love this. I teach full time. I feel like I’m basically teaching this already, but no way I could explain in that level of anatomical detail or have quite that depth of understanding for why. Thank you for posting. Love y’all’s videos.
We certainly didn't invent good shoulder movements. Great players have been doing it like this since the tweed coat days, lol. We do hope to help by being able to finally show it to the golfers looking to improve. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment, and thanks for already teaching the correct shoulder turn! 👊
Dear AMG-team, I feel so sorry for me that I only found your genius video after more than two years. It solved the majority of my takeaway problems (width, early turn, inside roll, inconsistency, just to name a few). The takeaway feel established after following and understanding your advice is priceless. Thanks a million. You answered so many questions at once to me. Best biomechanical content on the web by miles. Thanks again!!!!
Thank you for taking the time to share that🙏🏻. We glad to hear it helped! Great work making those changes 👏
Awesome explanation! You guys keep helping me change my concepts. So glad to part of the AMG+ community which is helping me take these fundamental concept changes and making them a reality in my swing.
Thanks so much for being a part of AMG plus. We love having you in there Russ
Nice... You really get to see not only how it's done, but when you try it.. The first few times I notice small muscles were tense in there somewhere and I had it all locked up somehow.. Great stuff.
As an A&P nerd, this video has to be the single most effective breakdown to help me understand what my lead arm should be doing
glad it helped. Thanks for commenting ;)
This video is one of your best for sure. The isolation and explanation is so beneficial. Thank you!
Appreciate the kind words!
Tony’s “before” avatar reminds me of every UA-cam instruction I view about keeping the swing “connected”.
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@@AthleticMotionGolf is there more info on this topic ?
I videoed my swing the other day, and I only get to " club vertical " position.
@@AthleticMotionGolf Had 2 lessons when i started golf 12 yrs ago.The second one of stuffing a towel under my armpits (to cure a massive overswing caused by the 1st!) gave me 5 yrs of short (but straight) golf and a saying heave!
"Connection" is an illusion caused by correct sequencing and athletic motion.
This is brilliant. Exactly what I needed to understand the physique of what I am trying to do. Love that. Let me know what I can do for you guys, apart from spreading the word.
@@jmack619 the gist is that your arms move up and back down, the turning motion is like 98% driven by your chest/back.
Game changer for visualising motion in the swing. Great video guys!
thanks for the kind words :)
Wow, how are you even doing this for free😱. Not complaining though😃. Thanks for the detailed lesson and your work in developing the game 🙏🏼
We do offer online memberships and training programs were we get to see your swings on a regular basis, but we try to give away as much valuable info as we possibly can 🙂
This new 3d approach is a breaktbrough on visual teaching. It is next level. It is so much easier to understand. Great job guys
We thought this would be a good topic to debut it. We glad you liked it, thanks for watching🙏🏻
🤯🤯🤯 this is insane. Truly amazing stuff. This new 3rd is a whole new level. (I can’t wait to show my wife…. She was an sports ortho PA. This might finally get her golfing with me… and the driver head covers that look like dogs) thanks!!
Those driver headcovers are THE reason to start playing 😆
Wonderful video. Doing what you are showing here is what also produces the sought after full turn back, so that you get your back toward the target as much as your body will allow. That full turn combined with focusing on keeping the right (trail) arm as extended (or unfolded) as possible and the left arm as straight as possible, is what creates a wider arc and more swing speed, more distance, better trajectory, better contact. It definitely takes some extra effort to make that fuller turn back, certainly at my age (80) and you have to concentrate on giving your body time to do it, not rushing the downswing. If you make the turn back doing what you show here, you will also find that your hands at the top of the backswing are straight out behind you, while if you fold the left arm across the chest as your client did initially, your hands will end up trapped too far behind you, making it difficult to get back to the ball correctly. Thank you very much for a super lesson.
wow great explanation there! Were glad it helped you :)
Wow: when the student is ready the teacher appears.
I have been involved in Golf for 40 years.
I have watched many many UA-cam videos, yours included.
And this along with your hip : Pros vs Ams video are invaluable.
Thanks for your great work.
Would love to see you both in Australia one day.
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As a biomechanics aficionado and physician I really appreciate your descriptions of the movements most pros use. Brilliant explanation and pictures revealing the left collar bone and it’s movement but what about the right, including the right scapula in both backswing and downswing! Please do a complimentary video isolating those movements as well.
This is insanely insightful. One of the most hidden and needed movements
Lots and lots of great information in this video. Want the “golden nugget” that will improve your game? Fast forward to 15:50 and listen to them describe the “drawing the bow” drill. I use a split grip to exaggerate the feeling of pulling back with the trail hand/shoulder and do this drill every time I start getting over-the-top again and boom…magic fix! Great feeling and does wonders for strike and power!
Phenomenal visuals, absolutely stunning learning tools combined with practical indept insight.
Thank you so much!
This was fascinating. What a fantastic presentation. Well done.
Thanks so much
Reminiscent of the Golf Channel Swing Expedition episode with Chuck Cook which was one of the best-and simplest- descriptions of the golf swing I’ve ever seen. Rear shoulder over the rear heel, rear shoulder down to the ball, rear shoulder to the target.
Wow! Amazing. You guys are light years ahead of the other instructors on UA-cam.
Wow. These videos are getting better and better. Thank you so much for sharing. You guys have been a big help for even a newbie golfer like me.
Awesome! Thanks for letting us help 🙏
This is best explanation of how the arms & shoulders work in the golf swing I have seen, thank you.
Thank you!
this totally helped eliminate getting stuck on the backswing. I always wondered why I couldn't get my trail elbow in front of my trail hip on downswing. it was that adduction piece at setup with takeaway and backswing. a "fake" turn. love it!
Superb. You are the only guys that can provide this kind of information.
You guys are just blowing me away with this stuff!! Amazing!! Thanks guys. And i just signed up for AMG+ !!!
Great content, very helpful and also entertaining to watch. Wish this info was available 30 years ago when I started playing golf ! Thanks Mike and Shaun.
This is absolutely amazing. So well done. This channel just keeps getting better.
we appreciate the kind words!
@@AthleticMotionGolf I don’t think I’ve even seen many golf tips or videos out there that describe the role of pronating the shoulder blade and reducing the adduction angle. It’s really insightful! I struggled a lot with way over adducting the left shoulder and getting it stuck behind. It even can cause impingement pain issues over time. I just didn’t have a good understanding of what to do to fix it. It makes a lot of sense now to think of how the shoulder blade and collar bone pivots sort of as a whole. That quickly fixed my issues once I realized this. The swing feels much easier now to time and be able to move hands fast into hitting area etc.
this of course relates to the other great video about clubhead speed from a while back on here.
Great information! The shoulder movement was something I hadn’t thought of. I’m a 61 year old golfer and enjoy out driving my younger golf buddies. This info should keep that going!!
Love it! Don't show those young guys any mercy 🚀🙂
This just solved a 22 year old mystery for me. Unbelievable guys, thank you. The data and the explanation together - just perfecto.
An outstanding summary at the end regarding the shoulder!! Ty!!
Thanks for video. It has been a game changer for me. Specifically, the importance of the right shoulder turning back (pulling back on the bow). There are 2 more concepts that have significantly changed my swing for the better…the grip and higher hands at top of back swing.
Awesome, glad it helped. Soundsljke your swing is on the right track 👏
Game changer! you guys are taking it to the next level! Thank you for all the great contents!
Thanks for watching! Let us know if there’s anything you’d like to see us cover👍
Going to have to watch this beauty a few times ! Outstanding.Thanks loads.
This is by far the best video that AMG has done. Thanks.
thanks for the kind words!
I'm so incredibly glad I found this channel and so incredibly disappointed that it's never been suggested for me before. Instant subscribe. Your videos have been so informative and really clarify & drive home concepts that I've certainly heard of but never truly understood. The deeper "why" for certain motions that my teacher has been telling me to incorporate. Now they make sense
I've already shared and recommended your channel to about 5 guys in my golf group who I think will also enjoy it
Thank you so much!!! Were so happy youre a subscriber now
Such an simple concept, well delivered.
I am left handed but play golf right handed. When I am at the driving range, after 50 or so balls, I feel a tendon stress in my left elbow.
Applying your shoulder (roll) technique has helped the golfers elbow.
Nice one guys, keep it going.
love it!
This video is amazing! Thanks for the clear explanation. Very easy to understand and very useful to take it into practice. Favorite golf channel ever!
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Love the new graphics and how in depth you guys explain the movements. Thank you!
Thanks! Anything else you’d like to see us cover?
@@AthleticMotionGolf I'd love to know more about shot shaping; how the pros vs ams are able to draw and fade. 🙏
@@scottsanchez1900 good one.
I’ve watched so many amg videos and learned so much and definitely improved my swing and my ball striking but I couldn’t for the life of me figure out why I tend to go across at the top of my swing and why I get so steep on the down swing. I think this video just showed me why. I haven’t been turning my shoulders enough.
Hi guys, you make your points with such ease and knowledge!!!! I must say it is nice to have 2 such knowledgeable fishing guides giving such inside golf information!!!
love it...thanks for the kind words.
Yep that's me near the end. Right shoulder comes forward and club gets steep. Also noticed most pros have a very high right shoulder on the backswing while my turn is too level. If I don't go steep with a level turn, then the club will go outward and I'd miss the ball completely.
Great video. It definitely helps to see the actual joints working. Can't wait to try it out. Thanks.
were glad it helped :)
Love the new graphic modeling! Well done guys. You are incredible for us nerds to geek out on
We hope it helps! 🤓
This might be my first comment on youtube. I tried this and it's a game changer. I've always heard about getting shoulder rotation by holding an alignment stick across the shoulders, then mimic your swing. Never once have a heard that I should be pulling my left shoulder (I'm left handed) back during my back swing! Thanks for the thorough breakdown.
That was a great description and break down. This is my problem, thank you for making it make sense.
Thank you again!!!!
great video on shoulder turm good explanation of difference between depth and width wow!!!
That was amazing. Complete conceptual change for me. Thank you for the information and the continued graphics improvements.
Glad it helped !!!
HI Guys ,finally understood coil rather than turn and the push pull action in the back swing absolutely brill. thanks a lot Steve from the uk
Thank you!!! I too saw the original video and didn’t get it. This is much better to visualize and implement.
Great video. I'm the guy your targeting in this lesson. The slumped right shoulder is the clue. I get lazy in rounds and fall into this pattern. Thanks for the amazing visuals. 👏
Thanks for your comment. We appreciate it
Hey guys, this video is so awesome. I’ve worked on using this protraction/retraction pattern in my backswing. But can I ask, what is the feel for this in the downswing? Do you reverse this movement, or do you let the arms lower from that protracted/retracted position? Or is it both? I’d love it if you guys made a video breaking down the answer!
This detailed explanation of shoulder rotation has supercharged my swing in a way I never thought possible. It was nearly instantaneous with a warmup on the range and then out to the course. It just made everything about my swing better. It's a nearly effortless improvement.
Boom! Great job incorporating it so quickly. That's talent!
Superb video. When it comes to technical swing analytics.... you guys are in a league of your own! Like Tony, I had watched the old Pro V Ams on this subject but missed the subtly of the necessary shoulder movements. These new graphics make it so clear I cant wait to get out and try it!
Let us know how it goes!