New tyres for your Street Twin? - Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2

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  • Опубліковано 21 вер 2017
  • Want something rugged that offer exceptional tarmac performance? then the Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2 tyres might be just up your street.....(pun intended).
    As explained in the video, here is the link to the tyre size calculator.....
    www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc
    and you can buy yours here;
    Rear - amzn.to/2JxU7pb
    Front - amzn.to/2y36Bny
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  • @thefooleryoftom
    @thefooleryoftom 6 років тому +4

    Good stuff! I'm currently researching tyres and fitting a 110/80 18" front opens up your choices considerably. The difference in size is only 2mm between the stock size as well, so hardly any difference.

  • @MBR05E
    @MBR05E 6 років тому +4

    I replaced the phantoms with these too and couldn't be happier.

  • @francoisstephany
    @francoisstephany 6 років тому +7

    I've put ~3000km on the Scorpion Trail II and I couldn't be happier. As you say, grip and confidence are great on the wet and dry. I did my first track day this week and they handled it pretty well; quick to get warm, nice feeling in the curves and on the brakes.
    Thanks for your videos, they are super useful for Street Twin owners ;)

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  6 років тому

      Francois Stephany I have been very impressed with them

    • @nihvl
      @nihvl 4 роки тому

      Francois Stephany Track day? Really I was a bit skeptical about the dry grip this is great news then, I live in a very hot weather we don’t see many season variations so street use in the dry is main purpose for me not much off road so a better dry grip than the phantom is what I wanted

  • @faridkaradia2650
    @faridkaradia2650 6 років тому +2

    Hi Tony, Can you kindly put up a video on how to remove the rear wheel from the street twin? Thank you.

  • @graemelossey130
    @graemelossey130 Рік тому

    Excellent informative vid, short and strait to the point. Thanks

  • @BoZhaoengineering
    @BoZhaoengineering 4 роки тому +1

    It happens to my Vulcan S 650 too. I am happy about the 17’ rear wheel that you can actually get any type of tires you like. The Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2 is the one that can be used in my sport cruiser. When I ride far away in the continent close to the boarder of Mongolia , I need the tread to overcome gravel road occasionally.

  • @AnotherHipster
    @AnotherHipster 3 роки тому +1

    Really helpful thankyou so much!
    Keep up the great work

  • @bajo
    @bajo 2 роки тому

    Just put these on my triumph scrambler. Already feels much easier in the corners. Thanks for the video

  • @michaelpior2337
    @michaelpior2337 2 роки тому

    Hey Tony
    Just the confirmation I needed. Thanks a lot!

  • @BoZhaoengineering
    @BoZhaoengineering 5 років тому

    R17 is the most common used. I need to find out R18 for my Vulcan S front. I am going to use scorpion trail for the rear and probably angel GT for the front . Thanks !

  • @davot.9717
    @davot.9717 4 роки тому

    Thank you brother I enjoyed this video very much and it has been a decision maker for me to your kindness and advice I am going to order my tires today will comment later to let you know how they work on my 2016 Roadster be blessed

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому

      Cheers Davi, they are an excellent choice, you won’t be disappointed

  • @michelebrecca5465
    @michelebrecca5465 2 роки тому

    Hello, thanks for the video, compared to the continental ContiRoadAttack 3 , you tested in other video, which one do you recommend for a Triumph Bonneville?

  • @andrewsargisson522
    @andrewsargisson522 3 роки тому

    Thanks Tony very helpful and informative. Looking at these for my Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro as the standard Metzler’s do not give good feedback on the front. Keep up the good work! Andrew

  • @lonewolf3804
    @lonewolf3804 6 років тому +5

    The best tires that money can buy! Especially when it rains and, according to google, it rains in the UK!

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  6 років тому +3

      Oh yes! it certainly rains in the UK, although I live in a part which, technically speaking, by rainfall has been classed as a desert in the past

  • @husqami
    @husqami 5 років тому +3

    I couldn't have been happier to get rid of the stock Pirelli tyres on my t120. The scorpion trails 2 have been the top tyre I've used. They travel at high speeds, great with high speed turning through twisties and feel planted to the road, which gives great confidence.
    The MT60RS has a great feel too and really stick to the road but you can feel the tyre knobs transition as you lean into the turn, however the tyre wants to transition to lean quickly in corner and have a great feel.
    For me milage is secondary. If you are looking for a good confident tyre in wet and dry that can go on dirt tracks, both of these tyres are great.
    But my next pair will probably be the scorpion trails 2 again.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Yes they are a great all around tyre

  • @nspinicelli
    @nspinicelli 3 роки тому

    I just ordered a set for my T120 , along with an Outex rimless conversion kit. Really looking forward to improved handling and mileage!

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 роки тому +1

      Cool, I’ll be interested to hear how you get on with the tubeless conversion

  • @Linux_Lucy
    @Linux_Lucy 6 років тому +2

    Looks like u have a nice "man cave" there ... How's about a 'garage tour' ...... Car / "other bikes" ??? Tools Chest / Bike lift etc ... Makes and Models of STUFF YOU USE ... ie - recommendations. GR8 channel. Keep the vidz coming.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  6 років тому +2

      Thanks, the wide angle camera makes it look bigger than it is, but a tour isnt a bad idea....

  • @Shinysideup
    @Shinysideup 3 роки тому

    Have to say spot on about the Pirelli phantoms in the wet, I don’t give enough confidence

  • @iamcaferacer
    @iamcaferacer 5 років тому

    Are these 80% sport touring 20% off road? Or 10% off road

  • @SlowLowRider
    @SlowLowRider 3 роки тому

    My tyre mechanic recommended these tyres to me too. I told him what I plan to do with my tiger 900 in next coming months ( ride across Australia and back)

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 роки тому

      They are fantastic tyres

    • @SlowLowRider
      @SlowLowRider 3 роки тому

      @@mancavemoto sweet. Hopefully they will be okay on Oodnadatta track next spring in Australia. Check out my Darwin videos if you have time lol.

  • @martinguy3803
    @martinguy3803 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for another very useful video. I have noticed by Street Twin seems to follow road grooves more than other bikes that I have riden. I wonder if you have noticed this and if you have found any improvement with the Scorpions?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks, and yes it was all down to the tyres. The stock ones tramline like crazy

    • @LtGlenn
      @LtGlenn 3 роки тому

      Nice, was wondering this myself!

  • @ShannonSpurrell
    @ShannonSpurrell 6 років тому +1

    Tony.... Just hitting 12,500kms on my 2016 stock tyres... now that you are almost a year into the ScorpionTrail II.... any additional thoughts?
    Cheers from Toronto
    Love your channel btw. - one of the best.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  6 років тому +1

      Thanks Shannon, nothing to add to the review, great tyres, fantastic in the wet and can handle a little bit of off-road too

  • @vishnuptr
    @vishnuptr 6 років тому +1

    Hi Tony... did you notice any handle bar wobble when the front tyre was almost getting worn out in stock tyres

  • @ashleytatham5003
    @ashleytatham5003 2 роки тому

    I put these on my nc750sa , much better than the stock one's will be getting the same when I need new tyres,
    I have found that I can lean more in the corners with these , have managed to use about 90% of the tyre tread I highly recommend these tyres

  • @daisychain8622
    @daisychain8622 5 років тому +1

    Been using these tyres on my T120 for a few years now. I wouldn’t go back.

  • @carlmatthewsmusic8324
    @carlmatthewsmusic8324 3 роки тому

    Thanks for a Great Video , Precise and To the Point excellent info and sharing ... Too many monkeys on UA-cam who love the sound of their own experienced voices .... GREAT VIDEO , THANK YOU .

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 роки тому

      No problem Carl, thanks for your kind words

  • @Roy_Camacho
    @Roy_Camacho 6 років тому +1

    Tony, do you reckon these will fit the Street Cup also??

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  6 років тому

      I think the tyre sizes are exactly the same, so yes

  • @deanjenkins915
    @deanjenkins915 6 років тому

    Hi Tony, Curious to know what sort of mileage you got out of the original tyres? Thanks for the great videos.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  6 років тому +2

      About 6000 miles....ish

    • @stibosis
      @stibosis 6 років тому

      that about what I got out of my original set as well

  • @yaabadaabadoo
    @yaabadaabadoo 2 роки тому +1

    These tyres are mad. My guy couldn’t keep his hands off 💀

  • @ash1toash1
    @ash1toash1 4 роки тому

    Hiya, can you help me with this question..
    I am planning to upgrade the stock Pirelli Sportscomp to Pirelli scorpion trail 2
    100/90 18 front
    150/70 17 rear
    Is it a good upgrade for the Triumph T120 ?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому +1

      For definitely, you’ll notice the difference in the tyres straight away, especially in the wet

  • @Ellakk666
    @Ellakk666 6 років тому

    Stay far away from the mt60rs IF you're thinking of doing some longer trips or using the bike as a daily commuter. I have the scrambler from ducati and i have just worn out the third rear wheel tire in just 12000km, the front wheel lasted (of course) longer. Reallyreally great grip in wet and cold conditions as well as gravel and it can be taken to the track without shaming itself or the owner, but the ultra poor mileage is a dealbreaker, at least for me. Ill be trying the conti road attack 2 next.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  6 років тому

      I was considering them at one time, but heard several reports of a short lifespan....

  • @dream_cruiser
    @dream_cruiser 4 роки тому

    Hi there. What do you think about them on a ducati monster 620? Or also the pirelli Mt 60 rs for that matter

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому

      They should be fine. Great tyres. I’ve ridden the MT60 rs on another bike and thought they were good, but apparently they don’t last long

  • @gapthevoice2609
    @gapthevoice2609 5 років тому +1

    Please made the video about how to make the engine oil change
    Thank you from Thailand

  • @engineerontravel
    @engineerontravel 3 роки тому

    For how many kms can i expect scorpion trail 2 to last. Mostly 90% times i stick to good tarmac roads. Planning to upgrade to these. On my interceptor, currently stock one is running good on odo of 10.5k. will be good for another 2.5k kms. My cruising speed is of around 110-130kmph.
    How much odo should i expect for trail 2 rear tyre.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 роки тому +1

      You should be good for pretty much the same sort of KM’s

  • @regimantasliepa5330
    @regimantasliepa5330 3 роки тому

    Very good review! How would you consider these compared to Bridgestone Battlax A41 and Avon Trailrider? Considering where to go from TKC 70 on my T120 :) Would appreciate your views!

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks, I had the A41's on my Tiger 800 and they were very good but felt a little 'heavy' when turning in, and Ive ridden a KTM 790 with the Avons and they were very good also, but I found that they 'tramlined' a little bit. Any would be a good choice assuming you can get the right size. The 18 inch front wheel can be tricky

    • @regimantasliepa5330
      @regimantasliepa5330 3 роки тому

      Views from the Man Cave thanks! Very helpful. Went with Scorpion Trail 2s same as you :)

  • @mortenviking3196
    @mortenviking3196 5 років тому +1

    I love the skorpion ,they made me ride like a profesionale!

  • @moflyboyblanquito541
    @moflyboyblanquito541 3 роки тому

    I’m truly impressed by the tires. Not sure about wet but gravel was much better than trail wings. WR250r is what I have them on absolutely great on street.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 роки тому

      These were really really good, and are a massive improvement over the stock tyres in the wet

  • @zinidin101
    @zinidin101 6 років тому +1

    Hi Tony... Just curious why most of Triumph bikes have 18" front and rear 17" I thought normally the other way around 17" front and 18"rear.. Is it about the riding stability or other reasons?

    • @roger1659
      @roger1659 6 років тому

      same doubt here

    • @ripmax333
      @ripmax333 6 років тому +1

      I think its more because of the retro look, in the old days i think the 18” front was a common size. With a 17” in the front it might look a bit silly... just my 2 cent.

  • @riparianlife97701
    @riparianlife97701 4 роки тому +1

    I'd love to have knobby tires, but we have planed concrete highways here, and knobby tires squirm on planed concrete.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому +1

      These should be fine, they are not squirmy like block tread tyres...

  • @liamnyirenda5734
    @liamnyirenda5734 4 роки тому

    Would these be upgrade for my street scrambler as my Metzlers almost dead & need to replace?

  • @alanripp2958
    @alanripp2958 Рік тому

    I'm a simple man, I here British accent... I push subscribe

  • @nihvl
    @nihvl 4 роки тому +1

    I ride mostly in tarmac but the roads are not great sandy wet roads are all their but I really want good dry grip so just purely based on dry grip is it an upgrade over the phantom scomp ? Please help thanks

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому

      For me definitely

    • @nihvl
      @nihvl 4 роки тому

      Views from the Man Cave thanks for the reply it’s that scorpion are on-off road tyres and phantom being a street use road tyre I recon the dry grips will be better on them but I think overall for a motorcycle like street twin trail II might be better than the phantom

  • @fizz945
    @fizz945 5 років тому

    Hi Tony, I have just changed to a street twin and done just over 7000 k on the stock phantoms and the front has worn far quicker than the rear and aren't far off needing changing, any ideas why as it's normally the other way round cheers

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      A lot depends on how you ride and the roads you ride on

    • @fizz945
      @fizz945 5 років тому +1

      Yeah, must be me, I do ride them pretty hard, I found them pretty good in the twisties and hairpins in Germany but will take your advice and try the scorpions...cheers

  • @hirenpanchal7949
    @hirenpanchal7949 4 роки тому

    Hi, thanks for the video. Can MT60 RS 160 60 r17 fit at the rear, will it touch the chain?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому

      Yes they will fit, they were a tyre I was considering for a while.

    • @hirenpanchal7949
      @hirenpanchal7949 4 роки тому

      @@mancavemoto thanks and how about the clearance between chain and the tyre

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому

      @@hirenpanchal7949 No problem, its only 10mm wider overall

    • @hirenpanchal7949
      @hirenpanchal7949 4 роки тому

      @@mancavemoto hi but on my street twin 900 cc there is only 6 mm clearance between chain and tire with the stock tires of 150/70 r18 and if i fit the mt60 rs 160/60 r18 than there is only 1mm clearance between chain and the tire, is it Ok to fit them.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому +2

      In reality you will have a little more than that as the tyre sidewall Profile is taller. It’s been a regular tyre choice on the street twin, check this out.... www.bonnefication.com/coolmotorcycles/

  • @bonovox96
    @bonovox96 6 років тому +1

    How are they with "sport riding"?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  6 років тому +2

      Pretty good Luca, they are really a 90/10 road/dirt tyre.

  • @greenambles
    @greenambles 3 роки тому

    Hmm... great review as always....I did note you said £20-£30 for fitting....I've got these tyres on order and the place charging £60 for fitting and balancing both...this is 3 years later granted but has inflation doubled?! Been warned off using a mobile fitter (better to go with on site place - better machines, less risk of powder-coating chipped etc I advised). My supplier at least nearby and got a good rep so £240 all in (as opposed to the £200-£210 you quote) seems fair....

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 роки тому +1

      yep that sounds right, £20-30 per wheel

    • @greenambles
      @greenambles 3 роки тому

      @@mancavemoto Thanks for that Tony. Looking forward to getting them on. Keep up the great work. Great content and your review above triggered my purchase. Thanks again.

  • @whittlad
    @whittlad 6 років тому

    Have these on my Ducati Mutley Enduro but I don’t find these tires that good. They are OK in the dry but not very good in the UK wet. However, they have lasted well at over 7k so far and no squaring off or much degradation. Choosing tires is very subjective and what works for one person might not for the next. I’m gonna give the Avon TrailRiders a blast

  • @jimmymundane1084
    @jimmymundane1084 2 роки тому

    Would these also be OK for motorway speeds? (US Interstate Highway speeds? )

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  2 роки тому +1

      Yep!

    • @jimmymundane1084
      @jimmymundane1084 2 роки тому

      @@mancavemoto Thanks for the prompt reply. My second-hand ADV came with a new set of these already installed. Thanks for the caveat about wet condition performance.

  • @christopheranto8969
    @christopheranto8969 6 років тому

    i was searching tyres for my street twin and there is not 18 inch in trial 2 for front tyre

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  6 років тому

      Keep searching Christopher, because they do make one. Where are you based?

    • @christopheranto8969
      @christopheranto8969 6 років тому

      i am from India. i couldnt find trial 2 for front wheel 100/90 r18 spec here in India. Thanks for info will search for it. Is there any other any other brands that make tyres of same size that you would recommend?

  • @nspinicelli
    @nspinicelli 3 роки тому

    Heidenau JUST started making their K60 Scout tire in the 100/90/18 size for our bikes. So now I'm considering those, or these Scorpion Trail II's. I'm afraid of (1) vibration and (2) grip at high lean angles.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 роки тому

      I hear good things about the k60’s other than how long they last. For grip and smooth running the scorpion trails are hard to beat for a dual sport tyre

    • @nspinicelli
      @nspinicelli 3 роки тому

      @@mancavemoto Yeah I think I've decided the Scoprions, I'll put em on at the end of this season. I'd go for the K60 Scouts, except I'm noticing that the T120 really comes to life when really hauling ass through twisties which is something I don't think the K60s could handle too well. It responds well too to proper body position, though I'm sure I look like a tool hahahah.

    • @nspinicelli
      @nspinicelli 3 роки тому

      @@mancavemoto Hey did you keep the intertubes? Or did you do a tubeless conversion? Any thoughts on that? I've never had a bike with tubes before, and not sure I want to mess with the stock configuration...

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 роки тому

      The only time I had to switch to tubes is when the spoked wheels went on and I had the TKC80’s. The scorpion trails on the cast wheels were tubeless

    • @nspinicelli
      @nspinicelli 3 роки тому

      @@mancavemoto Ah. Yeah my T120 stock wheels are spoked and tubed. I''m assuming it's safer to just keep the tubes in and not go for the tubeless conversion.

  • @chrisgroove
    @chrisgroove 6 років тому

    Interesting enough, Pirelli is rating the Phantom Sportscomp as B in the wet (ABB) and the Scorpion Trail II as C (BCB) which on paper would make the Phantoms a better choice in the wet (and an overall better choice between the two).

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  6 років тому +1

      Just shows how ‘on paper’ and ‘real world’ can differ.....

    • @chrisgroove
      @chrisgroove 6 років тому

      Agree, but both ratings come from the same vendor which is weird. Why would they "degrade" one of their products vs another. The only conclusion would be that the vendor published specs are not to be trusted... Anyway, good review, I plan to using these on my T120 as soon as I can get rid of the factory fitted ones.

  • @thecraiginator
    @thecraiginator Рік тому +1

    Unfortunately Pirelli has discontinued the 18"front tire for 2023. Might be worth trying the Michelin Anakee Adventure next round. 110 80/18 will fit fine, and also dual compound.

    • @mrZillion
      @mrZillion 11 місяців тому

      Hmm I hear peeps not happy with the Anakees

    • @thecraiginator
      @thecraiginator 11 місяців тому +1

      @@mrZillion I have the adventures and they are fine so far, but I have not really pushed them to limits. They are definitely louder, due to the more aggressive tread, but I have been on a couple of dirt and gravel roads that were much easier to deal with on the Anakees. Street and country Road handling has not been negatively impacted thus far. Haven't ridden on them in the rain yet.

  • @casperdog777
    @casperdog777 3 роки тому

    Can I get these for a Street Scrambler ?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 роки тому +1

      Yep, they are available in the stock sizes for the Street Scrambler

    • @casperdog777
      @casperdog777 3 роки тому

      @@mancavemoto must try these they look good and also they seem to perform good too. Thanks.

  • @achintdhiman4807
    @achintdhiman4807 11 місяців тому

    Will this be good on my t100 ?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  11 місяців тому +1

      Yep, they are great tyres

    • @achintdhiman4807
      @achintdhiman4807 11 місяців тому

      @@mancavemoto okay thanks for the recommendation 👍🏻

  • @mrZillion
    @mrZillion 11 місяців тому

    Beautiful white blue Triumph Scrambler 2006 here, yea tuned with stinky carburetor :D, off road pipes (which I put dampers in for the noise) and self made army bag. Makes pussy come. Now got the Heidenau 69T tires, they basically almost off road. Might look less cool getting more road %, but I drive mostly road, and the Heidenau's just don't give me riding pleasure at all. At least the Scorpions still got a bit the looks and I hear great things about it, so I ordered them!

  • @lennykibbs260
    @lennykibbs260 6 років тому

    Man.. those Fox shocks look the tits

  • @Fr99763
    @Fr99763 5 років тому

    I’ll change to Metzler Tourance

  • @jonkimber6008
    @jonkimber6008 2 роки тому

    I was surprised to see that they are made in China.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  2 роки тому

      Lots of manufacturers now have plants in China

  • @raf148
    @raf148 3 роки тому +1

    I feel uneasy watching you touching the tyre every 0.5 seconds...

  • @WhimsicalPyro
    @WhimsicalPyro 3 роки тому

    Yeah, am I the only person who thinks the phantoms fitted from the factory are garbage?

  • @roadwarrior8560
    @roadwarrior8560 4 роки тому

    made in China

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому

      As are Goodyear, Pirelli, Yokohama, Bridgestone and Michelin.....

    • @roadwarrior8560
      @roadwarrior8560 4 роки тому +1

      @@mancavemoto my road 5's are made in Spain

    • @jonkimber6008
      @jonkimber6008 2 роки тому

      Michelin’s made in Thailand

  • @BoZhaoengineering
    @BoZhaoengineering 5 років тому

    R17 is the most common used. I need to find out R18 for my Vulcan S front. I am going to use scorpion trail for the rear and probably angel GT for the front . Thanks !