Fox Adjustable Rear Shocks - Install & Review - Triumph Street Twin
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- The Fox adjustable shocks are now available for your Triumph WC Modern Classic, but do they perform as good as they look? Here are my thoughts....
Part numbers;
A9640207 - Street Twin
A9640208 - Street Cup, Street Scrambler, T100 and T120
A2009036 - Valve Caps
You are causing me to go broke Tony. I've done most of the upgrades except for the seat and master cylinder. Bike looking good. Waiting for Scrambler headlight screen to arrive. Love my Street Twin. Painting my mirrors right now as I am typing this. Thanks for the very informative videos. Always helps me with my upgrades. Keep up the great work. Wish I could send you a picture of my Street Twin
Haha, sorry Marc! Thanks for the kind words. I'd love to see your bike, you can always message me on the facebook page, or via Instagram or Twitter?
I agree with Marc
BEFORE YOU BUY THESE: the factory default setting for the preload is zero clicks, and this is the recommended setting. You can only ADD more preload. What does this mean for lighter people below 70kg: the shocks make your bike hard as a rock, and there is no way to fix this! We just came back from the dealer, i had these installed for her birthday. The idea was to make the bike more comfortable for her since she has back issues, and now the bike is ruined for her. So i will have to return these to the dealer or sell them ... Huge bummer of course ...
This true you can only add preload from the standard setting. For lighter riders this could mean the shocks feel too hard. The only option then is a lighter rated spring. This can be sorted quite easily, but of course is more work and expense. I don't know if they show a weight rating on them? I'm around 95KG so never encountered the problem. Having said that I don't think the spring rate is too much different to stock? but they are much better damped
@@mancavemoto the configurable preload range does not match the stock shocks at all. The stoch shocks, while low quality, can be set very soft. Much softer than the minimum value of the fox shocks. We are exchanging them for yss shocks with a spring selected for her weight
If you think 650£ is expensive for two Fox shocks you’ll have a heart attack if you see how much it costs the high end Fox shocks and forks for mountain bikes, especially Downhill. 😅
Yeah I’ve seen some of that stuff I had to replace the rear shock in a Santa Cruz I had a few years ago, ouch! I personally don’t think they are expensive. Great shocks at a great price
Bought and installed a pair of these. Just be aware that you can easily break the screws with a 28nm torque. I mounted mine with just 25nm since I broke one the first time I screwed them and it was very hard to take it out again…
anyone know if these would these fit on a 2019 speed twin?
Yes, they do.
@@Zarraman NO! They will not fit the Speed Twin.
Thank you for tour review, I've bought them... very good choice! The bike is super stable!
Excellent!
Hi - loved the vid, thanks! I have the shocks on my T120…I ride almost exclusively with a passenger and so want to adjust the preload. Do you know what the range of adjustment is (how many turns)? I know zero is the base setting but not sure how many turns for a passenger. Thanks!
Fitted the Scrambler/T120 one to my customized Street Twin rather than this one. It’s about 20mm longer, and increases the height of the rear a little and changes trail on the front which is what I was looking for in the first place. Bike looks awesome. Rear rides like a dream as expected, and the bike is slightly more responsive and sportier up front in curves.
i just bought this discounted for my t120. the feeling as you said is instant, it's so smooth over rough surfaces and going round the bend feels incredible. it's a different bike already! i considered one because the terrain of my country is quite terrible, almost offroad ish. this suspension was definitely a must need. i think it also helps that its adjustable on the fly because i have a pillion with me on certain days.
Thanks for the feedback, good suspension makes the world of difference
Can u do a video on how to do front suspension. Wanna change the front on mine go maker her a scramble
Be careful with the aluminum valve caps. I put those on my LR4 (discovery) and the dissimilar metals caused them to fuse together. Went back to plastic.
Yep that can be a problem, but these are matched OEM caps from the factory.
Just fitted a set of these Fox shocks to my 2021 ST which had the TEC shocks fitted. I found a lot of loctite had been used with the TEC shocks which i cleared using one of the old bolts plus nail varnish remover 😂 (i didn't have the right tap to do it). I found the same improvements as you, bike is now just much smoother over the rough stuff, really excellent product and far better looking now 👌
Hi! Great analysis! Glad to have found this channel. So, in Brazil, where I am now, rear fox shocks for my street scrambler (2020) will cost me R$ 7800 (equivalent to £1250) - fitted. But the girls suffer, the pillion is already shit, and the fox shocks may help , if you know what I mean
what do you think the setting would be for long distance riding, ie IRON BUTT with gear on the bike?
Depending on the amount of gear I personally would just wind a little more preload on
£790 isn't too bad but if you're PCPing a bike it's basically free 😂
So Triumph sell you a bike at a high price with cheap shocks then sell you some expensive replacements to make it what it should have been out of the factory..way to go Triumph 😂
I wouldn’t say the stock shocks are cheap? They are certainly built to a price point. Equally I don’t think the bike is particularly expensive? They could have fitted the shocks from the factory, but then people would be complaining about the cost of the bike?
@@mancavemoto Other bike manufacturers seem to manage to sell bikes at competitive prices with decent shocks, Triumph cheap out a the expense of the customer.
@@RichardsModellingAdventures really? My 2016 Africa Twin had a lousy rear end suspension and front fork damping adjusters that made very little difference.
I used a set of Hagen 2810 rears. Preload and rebound adjustment and they are almost identical to the stock item £200 ish well pleased with the result
Yep Hagon do some nice stuff....
me too , well pleased with them too :-)
Had some bad experience with Hagons that corroded after a year of riding. While the bike was always parked in a dry environment.
Cheers Tony, great review and agree, these shocks look the business! Quick question, would the T120/T100 part fit my Triumph Thruxton 900? Also, i live in New Zealand, would you happen to know how/who i can contact for a pair of these shocks? Cheers
As far as i'm aware the pins on the frame are a different diameter to the watercooled models?
I'm a mountain biker & have Fox air front & back they are outstanding never cheap but very plush, great to see them on a Triumph.
Yep 'buy cheap buy twice' as they say. These were fit and forget
I just installed these shocks. They are AMAZING. Highly recommended.
They transform the rear end don’t they
I just got my set but it seems I might have made some assumptions on my model/compatibility. I have an ‘06 Bonneville and when I put the shocks on I noticed there is a small gap between the shocks mount and the shock. Should I just get a shop with a lathe to put together a spacer to make up for the gap?
Yep these are not for the the aircooled versions, a spacer would work, or a few washers if the gap isn’t too big
I was on the fence about getting this, but you've shown yet another excellent review and video. Bravo! And thanks! They should arrive next week and I am looking forward to installing them and testing the various settings the shocks offer.
I have a Street Twin, it's my first bike. And, you've helped tons with the accessory selections for it.
I thank you!!
+David McDonald Thanks David, I just try to show an honest straightforward view, so I'm pleased it's helping people. You'll love the difference they make to the bike
Great review. Shame they don't come with rebound adjustment too.....Are you planning on adjusting the front too? Ohlins have just released the Nix 22 replacement for the Street Twin
David Mansfield Thanks, Yep would have been a bonus, but a separate rebound adjuster isn't really missed. Most likely, as the front can get a little 'shown up' at times now!
Put 10k miles on them on my Street Cup, and the right rear shock is needing a rebuild already because the little valve or port where they inject the nitrogen, is leaking. Some oil coming out and that means most of the nitrogen is already gone.
Considering getting it fixed and then waiting for the other one to wear out, or, just replacing them with a set of Hagons...
Hello, could I fit the model (A9640208 - Street Cup, Street Scrambler, T100 and T120) to my Street Twin 2019? It is 9mm longer than my factory original. Will it fit? Would it be a problem in driving characteristics? Thank you very much.
Also bought these after watching and glad I did!
Nice!
Wow i want to do this to my street cup
I agree with your comment about suspension. having ridden plenty of Bikes with no or minimal adjustment its a revelation when one rides a bike with fully adjustable systems that can be honed for the weight and riding style.. six hundred pounds is money well spent in my opinion..
Thanks Brian, yep its a very important part of the motorcycle, it the part (aside from the tyres) that keeps in in contact with the road in a controlled manner. That why I will never understand the people that put £100 shocks on and refer to them as an upgrade! These are well built and serviceable, and in my eyes a very worthwhile investment.
Views from the Man Cave When ever I’ve been tempted to buy something cheap, for whatever reason, it’s always turned out to be utter crap...What price safety ...
For tidiness' sake, is that Fox decal removable?
Hi Jeffrey, yes it looks like it is. I haven’t tried, but it is a decal and not etched on
your wrong. compression controls the compression of the shock hense the name compression. rebound controls the speed on which it rebounds or extends back normal after it has been compressed. great shocks though. 😀
Hi, Thanks for your comment but not wrong exactly though. The more compression that is dialled in the slower the shock will compress. Conversely the less compression the faster it will compress. These shocks don't have a separate rebound control, so the damping as the shock extends back is at the same rate. Agree, great shocks
Views from the Man Cave that shock should have a rebound circuit. rebound is just as important as compression you sure the outer dial is not rebound. I don't think it would have two compressions then have no rebouns
Fox shocks for street twin are absolute rubbish for bigger rider
Any shock is not going to work if the spring rate isn’t correct. I weigh over 200lbs and I found the fox shocks to be excellent
Are these suitable for the Speed Twin 1200?
You would need to check the shock length and mounting pin diameter to confirm.
No torque wrench required?
I just ordered these.Price has gone up to £770.Looking forward to fitting them.
so are my bonneville shocks oem ,, does that mean that they are better than hagon , tec,bitubo shocks ?? we dont all have 650 for shockw , I can find with 200 for a better than oem shocks
I bet he didnt pay for them - advertising for fox
Actually I did, but even if I didn’t it would make any difference to the review. Yep it’s a review not an advert. Have you had a bad experience with these shocks?
Is there a product for the speed twin?
Not as far as i'm aware, you'll need to get googling
Will liquid cooled shocks fit in air cooled?
I don't think so, I believe the mounting posts are different diameters
Boa noite como faço para adquirir esse amortecedor
Directly from Triumph
Hey Tony, quick question; when riding a motorcycle with leather boots what's the best thing to do to prevent them from being damaged by the shifter?
+TheOtherUs There are a couple of nifty devices available. Acme make a little leather tab that attaches to your bottom bootlace and sits on top of your shifting foot. I think Rev'it also do an elasticated version that goes around your foot. The shifter on my bike is black runner and discolours my boot, do I'm going to try a metal one....
A friend of mine uses a metal shifter on his bike and it damaged his shoes terribly after only one ride. So I think buying one of those leather tabs isn't such a bad idea, thanks!
+TheOtherUs That's a worry, but this one is relatively smooth, not a knurled finish.
I wear my marked left boot with pride!
Hey dude, brill videos. Keep em coming 👍
Biker on the Couch, cheers Bro
i fitted these to my t120 bonnie ive taken them off and fitted them to my new street twin. i recommend them
great video, does it have high and low valve compresion?
I see you've switched out your tyres! What have you got on? I've been looking for a suitable replacement too, but it's a pain for the front as there aren't too many options for the 18in front
Hi Aadil, yep the front creates a problem. I went with Pirelli Scorpion Trail II tyres, available in exactly the right sizes and I've been very very impressed so far
Views from the Man Cave would you expand on this ?
Hi Tony.. Just curious why most of Triumph bikes has front 18" and rear 17"? Normally the front is smaller than the rear... Is it about the riding stability or other reasons?
Also for Bonneville 2009?
No, the posts on ther bike are a different diameter
Which setting on the fox shocks are equivalent to the standard shocks setting- at the same setting will these be better than the standard shocks.
Any shocks out there for a Harley road glide special year 2016?
Do these fit Street Twin as well?
These are fitted to the street twin…
Really hard to find this fox suspension for 2016 Triumph Scrambler. Can you help me where I can find or buy for my 2016 scrambler. Thx before
You should be able to source it through a triumph dealer?
I’m about to find out if these puppies fit on my 2019 Street Scrambler with my British Customs shock mounted turn signals. Wish me luck!
Nice, they'll look ace
Excellent Mate the way you take the time to reply to people's comments and questions!
So many others, on UA-cam, don't make the effort. 👍
Thanks Sean, that’s all part of it for me. 👌
Great idea, been meaning to upgrade my Street Scrambler. Do you think that replacing the rear shocks is something that a motorcycle layman can safely do? I've done quite alot of tinkering with bicycles, but never on the motorcycle. And: don't you think it wise to use a torque wrench on fitting the screws?
I may have bit of more than I can chew. I’m not an experienced shop mechanic and just do the occasional tinker or install. Motone panniers is probably the most complicated thing I’ve done. Can I make this install happen on my own? Think I’ve got the tools. Also more importantly, is replacing rear shocks without changing front fork springs acceptable or should that always be done together?
Yes, its an easy job to do. As your not changing the ride height, then the front will be fine. The damping and control of the fox shocks is better but the overall action is not that different to stock. These shocks were designed specifically for this bike
Hi Tony. I am going to buy the t100 soon. I have an offer of buying accessories for about 2,000$ free with the bike. I plan to get this and kit them out on the bike. How good are they? The roads here are not the smoothest in the world. Will it help me get a better ride out of the bike? The stock one is KYB twin shocks with adjustable preload, 120 mm rear wheel travel. Worth the upgrade?
I think they are awesome, really made a difference to the bike. Great damping and offers better more predictable control. Worth the money
Hi Tony, did you get a C spanner or allen key in the box with your shocks??
Nice vid btw.
hi.
Are compatible with legend gear side bag system?
Any compatibility issue?
thanks!
No sadly not, the piggy bag reservoir fouls on the side carrier
Hi im Nicolás from Chile.. I love yours videos... Is it a Good option for go offroad. I have a street scrambler and Im use it a lot offroading and I feel the stock shock sistem is too hard. Well thanks you
Hi Nicolás, thank you. Yes these would work really Weill off road as long as you’re not going too extreme!
Hi Tony,
i want bring my Street Twin couple inches lower and wondering can i do it through manipulate Fox Adjustment shocks settings? can i manipulate length adjustment for this shocks?
Hi Sajib, you can't adjust the overall length of the shocks. You would need to find a shorter set to swap to, then drop your front forks to match
I would like to buy these shocks for my gf's street twin, but she is vertically challenged, and for her its important that the bike is not higher after the fox upgrade. Can you tell me if the fox shocks raised the seating position of the bike?
Hi. No the shocks are exactly the same length as the stock ones
Thank you, ready to test ride aT100 and also plan two up riding. I’m 218lbs at 6 foot. Like know of shock upgrade if I need it and the dial in directions you provided. Brilliant review.
Thanks
Hi Tony, how much taller is the A9640208 than the A9640207?
many thanks
Leonardo Goulandris Tony I have the same question?? Height diff between A9640207 and A9640208?
It's been a couple of years.. curious how these shocks have aged. Any servicing issues?
They’ve were perfect, with no issues (although I don’t have the bike any longer)
will these fit a 2013 thruxton 900? is there a specific part number?
They won’t, and the part number is in the description
Hi bro.... Nice video... Nicely explained... I want to know.. does it improve ground clearance... Does it fit into Triumph Bonneville A3 2015 865cc... I am from India
Hi and thanks. The answer to both of your questions is no. Theses are the same length as stock and the mounts are different dimensions on the 865 bonnie
Bro please suggest rear suspension for my Bonnie... I want to raise height n ground clearance... Shall be grateful to you
Was there a specific torque you tightened the rear suspension bolt to? I checked the owners manual for my T120 and it didn't list one.
As far as I know they're supposed to be tightened to 28Nm, with blue loctite.
What's the long term verdict on these? Worth the price of admission for the comfort and handling gains?
Most definitely, one of the best mods I made to the bike
Hello Man cave
So if I have to install this shock do I have to adjust the pre load settings or just the dumper.
Ideally both, but that depends on your weight mostly. I found the preload was fine for me and I just dialled in the damping to suit my riding
Nice review..
There are 2 diff. versions of the RSU available... A9640207 and A9640208.
1) Can A9640208 be used for ST 2018?
2) What is the difference between these 2?
3) A9640207 not available with Triumph. ST accessories page shows A9640208 currently
4) Will this upgrade improve ground clearance for ST?
Hi Lloyd, thanks. Yes there Is a version for the Street Twin and another for the Street Scrambler (which are slightly longer). You can fit the longer version to your Street Twin and it will of course raise the back a little. But don’t forgot this will steepen the head angle and change the handling (although not drastically). The reason Triumph show each part specifically for a specific bike is down to homologation rules.
@@mancavemoto Will upgrading the RSU with A9640207 improve the ground clearance? I am in a country where there are speed breakers every where in the city. Solo riding is somewhat fine but with spouse it is making difficult as I need stop and slowly pass the speed breaker. I already have a sump plate fixed which makes my ride through city more difficult.
Where can I get this RSU in US or in UK (online)?
Can you get the spring customized for the rider's weight?
Only by buying another spring, but yes it can be done
Can you still install the sw moto legends panniers with the fox shocks?
Sadly not, they foul on the gas cannisters
Hi Tony! Thanks, great video, awsome job! Quick question what are those Tires and would they fit on my 2018 t120 black? thanks
Thanks Hugo, they are Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2 tyres. you can see my review of them here ua-cam.com/video/Mq-Qa0YQ8co/v-deo.html and I don't know off the top of my head the size of the T120 tyres, but you should be able to find the scorpion trails to fit.
Hi Tony - they do look the business these shocks. Do you know if they would be OK for the previous 865 air-cooled T100? They would aesthetically perfect for my 865 AC T100 Black. Subscribed - great channel!
Hi Bonny Trippler, thanks for the sub, I don’t see any reason why not, assuming the lugs are the same diameter and they are the same length. I’ll check....
Length will be OK 340mm - 13.5". Dunno about the lug diameters though.
How much are they
Hi Tony!
Is it possible to install them only using the side stand?
Yes, most definitely
would these work on a '04?
No i think the posts are a wider diameter and i'm not sure the shock is tha same length?
@@mancavemoto oh bother. thank you.
Hi Tony, great video! I have the Ohlins on my street twin. And they're 8 mm shorter than the Ohlins for a T120. Do you think I could swap the ST Ohlins to the T120? Is it only that the T120 will ride 8mm lower?
If you mounting posts are the same diameter you could switch them, but you’d probably want to drop the front end to match
@@mancavemoto thanks!
I have a T120 truimph bonnevvel 2018 And I am 6.3 foot tall, I want to rise my motorcycle, what shock you recommend please?
if the mounting posts are the same diameter the Fox Street Scrambler would add a little bit of height. But of course just raising the rear shock would steepen the head angle and make the bike steer a little quicker. Freespirits make some parts to raise the bike, if you didnt want the expense of changing the shocks? www.freespiritsparts.com/en/triumph/riser-block-for-triumph-bonneville-t100-t120-2016-up.html
Views from the Man Cave Thanks so very very much for helping me, God bless you always, your the best. 👍🏼🙏🏼😄♥️
Hi, thank you for this lovely video. I am planning to go for street twin (my first SBK), I own a 2005 Royal Enfield Thunderbird. With a pillion and roads in India the pot holes and scary bumps, with the stock silencer there is a lot more scraping. Will the Fox RSU help increase the GC of the bike or the travel length? I understand that it might not be able to handle all bumps but i believe it should be better than the stock on these cases as well right?
Also is there an option for front shocks as well?
Hi, these are the same length as stock, so no increased height or travel. The ones for the Street Scrambler are slightly longer and will still fit the street twin, but you'd also really need to raise the front by the same amount
@@mancavemoto Thanks a lot for your responses and clarifying !! Love the videos and have a great motoring days ahead and safe travels 👍
I've bought a new Street Twin, and purchased the Fox shockers. I'm now struggling to get insurance, as they are classed as a 'performance modification'. Do you have any suggestions of specialist who will cover me, or do I, 'ahm', not tell them? I'm not high risk, riding 20 years, with full no claims, and still no luck. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks
Really? i'm suprised, my insurance included them as one of five standard mods allowed. Have a chat to the guys at Devitt Insurance....
Thanks for the prompt response.
I don’t know whether they have changed there policy, as Devitt was one of the companies I contacted for a quote.
They stated suspension changes are a ‘performance modification’ which they would need to refer to the underwriter. When they phoned back they apologised and stated they would not be able to cover the bike, due to the astronomical price (their words). Despite asking, the guy from Devitt’s would not tell me the price from the underwriter, stating his line manager has specifically told him not to divulge the price!
I have eventually got cover from Bikesure.
In the end only Bikesure and Bennett’s would cover the bike.
Hopefully I’ll have better luck next year, and I will try Devitt’s again, as their guy seemed genuinely gutted that they couldn’t insure for a reasonable price.
Safe riding.
Great review....and Like Marc said.....gonna go broke.... I dropped you a message hope you can reply.....
+Moto Buck's Did you message me through UA-cam messenger?
yes, did it not go through?
Does anyone know if these will fit the efi era Bonnevilles? (2008-2015) I understand height may be slightly different, but do they fit on the mounts? Thanks so much
Sadly no, the eyelets on the mounts are a different diameter
Thanks so much. I appreciate your response
Nice video, thank you for sharing. If I want to rise a scrambler by 4" can I just buy longer motocross twin rear shocks ?
You could, but you'd need to do something with the front too. Just changing the rear shocks by that much would really throw the geometry out big time
Hi mate, will you let me know what rear tyre you have on this bike?
Pirelli Scorpion Trail II’s
a bit of grease on the mounting points would be a good idea while you are at it :-)
Yep helps to prevent corrosion.
Love the Triumph hoodie Tony ! It looks awesome... Nice video as always I should say, thanks for your time.
haha thanks Mr Toonfish, I don't normally go for manufacturer branded stuff, but i liked this one... no problem, my pleasure
Anyone know how many Newton meter it takes to tighten the screws?
28nm
You could probably re-valve the standard shock, add the best oil and save a ton of money.
+topari01 yep, if you've got the skills certainly a cost effective option.
Good tip on the foot peg! Spares you the risk of losing the small bullet as well!
Indeed!
Had Fox and didn't think they were that great to be honest
Shame, what were you comparing them too?
Great, I'll buy and install by my self
Yep, I think the tyres are overkill, particularly for this bike
GREAT GREAT review. Thank you.
MUCH Appreciated.
Terry Vincent No worries
Very helpful review... I am about to order a pair... Thanks
No problem, i've been really pleased with mine
What is the part number in the United States?
I just checked the websites, not there in the US or Canada.
I've been shopping for Ohlins and they only have suspension upgrades until 2020. My street scrambler is a 2022. Does anyone know if there is any difference between stock suspensions between the years?? I cannot find ANY sort of difference but I need to make sure. Contacted Ohlins and they don't know.
I don't think there has been any changes to the suspension from the 2020 MY onwards? Triumph would be the ones to confirm
@@mancavemoto That's true. I'll speak to them. Did you ever gone off road with the Fox shocks? I'm also considering them. I keep hearing the Ohlins are too stiff.
A little bit yes, nothing technical, but I think they are excellent shocks for the bike
Hi what size tire you have on this street twin ? Thank you
+alex Sanchez Hi Alex, the tyres are the stock size
Do you know if this would fit on a speed twin?
I don't unfortunately, but it should be easy to check
What suspension upgrade would you suggest for two-up riding on the Street Twin? It tends to bottom out on bad speed breakers, scraping almost everything.
Hi Arijit, well obviously I think these shocks are ideal. The fact that they are adjustable means and easy change between riding solo and riding two up. They offer much better damping than the stock units.
@@mancavemoto this May sound like a silly question but when carrying a pillion should the shocks be dialled in softer or harder?!...I’ve got then dialled in on my ST at the standard 18 setting but not sure if making it softer or harder makes the handling easier or the ride more/less comfy for the pillion?!...
Nice review - thank you. If these shocks are fitted, will I still be able to fit the SW Motech SLC carriers?
So if I wanted to lower a Street Cup I can use the Fox suspension meant for the Twin to achieve the lowering right?
Kevin Lam yes, same amount of travel but shorter length.
Thank you! I'm a short rider looking to buy the Street Cup in the near future. The lower height would sure help.
Will these shocks work with Legend side bags and brackets on the Street Twin?
Sadly not, the piggyback reservoirs foul on the legend gear pannier frames :(
@@mancavemoto Thank you for your help. In your opinion if you had to choose one or the other( even though its apple to oranges ) which would you go with. By the way when it comes to the shocks I am a 160lb rider. Thank you again.