@@nataliamiliano150 I highly doubt you would recommend Shinko’s over Dunlop and such, if your main interest was personal benefit via, sponsored kickbacks. Also his cheaper cost factoring wouldn’t jive with trying to make more $. His opinions seem quite detailed and from personal experience. I don’t see why I wouldn’t trust his. He has access to every tire, gets paid to know the products he sells & suggests, and doesn’t come across as a scripted, promotional attempt for one brand over another.
These recommendations haven't really changed meaningfully enough to make a new video. Most of these tires are still the same and still just as good. Time moves slow in the cycle world
Hello Ryan its been 3 year since your last tire review, there are new tires on the market in the 50/50 bracket, it would be nice to hear your comments 1st The knobby tire Anakee wild , AX 41, Motoz rallz and Mitas Eo 10 2nd The big lug tire Karoo 3, Dunlop trailmax mission, mitas Eo7 + Looking forward to your reviews Cheers for Cape town
My wife and I run the Kenda K270 on our DR650's and we get 14k kms on average. We rode across Canada this pass summer (5800+kms) and the tires performed flawlessly. Best bang for your buck in our opinion. Great video Fortnine team! *T4S*
Sum4Seb i had a set of those on my DR. Fantastic off road. I do more commuting on mine now, so i went with the 705s. Anything is better than the stock tires though.
I can vouch for the SHINKO 705's. Had them on a KTM 450 Enduro. ONROAD: never slipped on dry/wet pavement, great cornering, handled highways speeds and were smooth/stable. OFFROAD: excellent in dry hard packed gravel or dirt. Not so good in mud or grass.
Michelin Anakee 3 is made from a single compound. It's hard all around and that shouldn't be a complaint. It's to send feedback to rider when riding off road. After all, it's a dual sport tire. Great video Ryan, as always.
I have been traveling across the Americas, started in Miami, through Baja, then Mexico down to Panama and across the Darien to Colombia and now entering Bolivia and over 32,000 km so far on Heidenau K60 Scout.s. On my second set after 20,000 km, and could have gone longer. The only issue for me has been the wet slippery red clay on the Ecuador border where I had my first off, exiting a corner they just slid and kept sliding until my inglorious off. Other than that they have been sensational.
I've run 705s on a KLR, a Tiger Explorer and now my Tiger 800. Best for the money period. I've got over 80,000 miles of experience on them. I now am trying the 804/805 combo on the 800 and love them for 50/50 riding.
Mark Jacobs Hi, was it Tiger 800xc or the road version? I'd like to buy Shinko 705 for my Tiger 800xc, but apparently they don't have tube tires in size 90/90/21. Can I use tubless tires?
Hey Ryan you do excellent commentaries. I've been riding over 50 years. I have had my motorcycle endorsement for 47 years.I have Been a motorcycle mechanic for 40 years. I mainly work on the Big Four Honda Yamaha Kawasaki Suzuki dirt and Street. I have been running the Shinko tires for as long as they've been out dirt and Street. Bottom line is if you don't ride for a living this is the best tire for the money hands down.
I bought a shinko yesterday and I'm amazed of its performance. Definitely a 50/50 for me. Roads in my city are not good which makes shinko perfect for my everyday commute.
Brilliant review of the current dual sport tires. You tell it exactly the way it is and get the essential points across succinctly. I do quite long off road hauls, like the extended version of the TAT in August 2015. I flew from England with my KTM690 into Montreal on Air Canada (bless them, cheaper than shipping and on my bike within an hour of landing) then crossed 14 states in the US before riding up to Vancouver to fly back.On that 7,500 mile trip I went through 3 rear TCK80's and frankly I should have used K60s from the Canadian border to Mississippi which was 70 per cent tarmac and then as it changed to 85% dirt from Mississippi onwards over the Rockies and across Utah and Nevada I should have used Dunlop D606's . Before I set off from Heathrow on Air Canada later this year to New Zealand with my bike I will be certain to check out your channel for any updates. Thanks pal for a great contribution.
I just came back from a 11000 km Tour on a BMW R 1200 GS (LC) equipped with a pair of Continental's TKC 70. The route went from Germany via the Baltic States, Finland, Norway up to the Nordkapp, then southward along the norwegian westcoast to Langesund, via ferry to Denmark and finally back to Germany. The outside air temperature ranged from 35°C (95°F) down to 2°C (35°F) with lots of sun, rain and even some snow. I came across all kinds of roads from perfect to dirt track. The TKC 70 proved to be a wonderful tire. Comfortable, low rolling noise, very reliable with lots of grip under all road conditions, good directional stability, agile with almost no diminishing handling after lots of wear and even providing a high mileage (I made the whole trip on one set of tires). And most importantly: There was no wobbling of the front tire whatsoever. I even considered using this tire as my standard.
I would give a good shoutout for the Michelin Anakee Wild-tyres, I have them on my R1200GSA LC and they handle really well on road as well as offroad. The rear tyre usually makes about 8000km's and front tyre somewhere between 15000-20000km's.
Hi Ryan. I believe I gave you the same comment last year. Not mentioning Mitas 07s (sorry i said 09s) is not talking about one of the best 50-50 tires if not the best in the market. Anyways, you still rock! thanks for your awesome videos!
Oh I watched this video 2 years ago and again today. My small 150cc bike is having now E705 at rear and 244 at front both from shinko and both were in this video😁 I think Ryan will approve 😁👍 great video
I purchased a set of Shinko 705 tires based partially on your recommendation and ended up with a bad front . The wheel would produce oscillation at certain speeds . Now this is not indicative of these tires and I will try them again in the future but it illustrates a need to test the tires after they are installed. Give them some love as new tires are notoriously awkward but look for oscillation at higher speeds. I did get to try them at low speeds on broken rock and loose gravel in a hill situation. Despite being a terribly new person to off road they were comfortably stable. I felt like the bike was sure footed and responsive using these tires.
I appreciate your honest, no BS and highly informed reviews. On this review I appreciated your opinion near the end of tires for lighter bikes. I just bought a Versys X 300 and I'm considering the Shinko 244 as the stock tires are way too street oriented for my tastes.
I love my TKC80 front tire - super stable, it absolutely got rid of the head sway I was experiencing with my previous knobby (the terrible IRC TR8 - buyer beware). I've got a Shinko 805 to try out next on the rear. Not sure if I can stray from my beloved TKC80 front even though I haven't tried much else...it just does everything I want it to!
sweet! I'm running K60 scout rear and a TCK80 front on my 03 F650GS and love em so far, first season. Cool thing is that my size of K60 does NOT have the solid bar centre but has quite the spacing throughout the tire profile.
I have to agree with your light dual sport suggestion. Used an mt21 front and 606 rear on a trip through utah and colorado in 2013. Great wear, and still sticky on pavement. Last year used the shinko 244 and loved it for longevity. Have not tried the anakee 3 yet, but the compound worked great in the wet commuting on my vstrom. Currently using 705 front and rear on my versys, and although a bit sketch at the limit or in wet, cost can not be beat. Keep up the great reviews.
His videos are absolutely cracking. I’m using Pirelli Scorpion 🦂 Rally STR Tires on my KTM Duke 125 just had them fitted 200 miles ago and so far so good.
The Shinko 805 is an awesome tyre; I went through three on my Africa Twin (see it in the F9 review video ;) ) my last one lasted from Utah off road to the Oregon coast THEN on road from Oregon to Victoria(BC) and back to Montreal.
Thanks Ryan for more than good information for on/off skins. I'm in Michigan and ride rain or shine on an "07" 883 Sportster. Off road tires are good for most highways in this U.S. State; All the roads are "sucko". In my opinion 50/50 tires are the best choice, in the cities too! Thanks man for the great job! James Smith.
It is a popular debate! Never really understood it though... the Anakee 3s are *much* grippier on pavement and about equal on the dirt. In my opinion, the only reason to go away from the Anakee 3s is the road noise (which is admittedly annoying). But from there, I'd rather take a Pilot Road 4 Trail than a Tourance Next. ~RyanF9
Great review Ryan. Yours is the only one with any decent information on the Tractionator GPS and has convinced me try one on my Ducati Enduro. I was struggling to decide whether to mount in the 50/50 or mostly off-road direction as I have a lengthy road ride in a few weeks. Considering I don't really notice the bumpiness or noise of the Pirelli Scorpion Rally and prefer maximum grip when venturing off-road, I'm swaying towards just leaving it in mostly off-road instead of flipping it around to suit the ride.
Ryan, love your reviews. and you are very quick to respond to comments, which is very helpful. I do have a question in this arena. You mentioned your "beloved Heidenau K60 Scouts," but they did not make your list. I am a fan of them too, mostly due to their long lives (19,000 km back and 25,000 km front on a 1200GS) and good all around handling. Am i living in the past? What am I giving up by running them?
Hello! The short answer to your question is no - you're not living in the past. The K60 is still a phenomenal tire in terms of mileage, especially considering how well it handles off-road. Expect to see a lot of ADV guys still wearing them in 2017. And 2018. And probably 2019. *But* the Tractionator GPS (from this video) does the same job as the K60 and lasts a smidge longer. Plus it's reversible and that brings some versatility to the table. Most people will never flip the tire around anyway, but the fact that you *could* flip it to get more off-road traction is enough to choose it over the K60. Hope that helps! ~RyanF9
I could not wait to tear off my Karoo 3's. Scary on anything but paved roads. Good on pavement, and gives bragging rights for visual design, but they are not for me. I liked the old Karoo 2's better. Even though the 3's last longer. The achilles of the Karoo 3 is the sideways grip in the loose stuff. Hope that helps:)
nice comparison. ive run the tkc80 and d606 rear... d606 is by farvrhe best dual sport tire ive had. pushing it hard on and off road i got around 8000kms. the tkc80 is amazingly grippy on the road but it wears down so fast and the knobs start of so small that after 500kms the knobs are not even up to scratch in the mud and dirt. the tkc80 is great if u dont mind changing it every 2 to 3000kms. however the tkc80 front is awesome... so the ultimate pairing is d606 rear with tkc80 front.
Awesome review R9; very comprehensive! My Mitas E-07's are just about shot, so this review is perfect timing - E-07's are great in dry dirt and even good wet dirt, but just okay on pavement (front floats on grooves). Shinko 705's are excellent on my Triumph Tiger 800xc for serious knee dragging and decent DRY dirt riding and slide very predictably on asphalt. I've been wanting Tractionators... but last I checked they're not in my size (90/90-21 front is limiting).
I love the Michelin Sirac tires. For me they are Perfect! lots of predictable solid grip on road and very good off-road capabilities! i have bought them for 3 bikes so far and loved them!
Second set of Annakee 3's and have never had a puncture. Mixed riding . 2600 km tour of Newfoundland no issues. Lots of mixed trails and beaches. Did get over 17,ooo on the set. They do hate wet grass. But then so do I ha .... Never had any wobble or slip in turns not even wet turns . 2012 KLR650 .
Just got in my new front tire for my 2020 Tw200 (Shinko 244 5.10-18) I've heard so many good things. The tread depth is a lot beefer than I expected! Time to replace the "death wing" .....
Something to mention with the Shinko 244 is the speed rating. They're only L rated, so if your bike does more than 75mph, don't get the 244. The K270 is rated for 93, so it isn't much better, but for someone on a KLR that does highway miles in between trails, being able to do 80 is nice.
Motoz Tractionator GPS was my tyre of choice ( mounted in the off road direction) on my Tiger 800XCx for 50/50 use. My buddy on a KTM 990 hated the Motoz GPS ( mounted road directions) on wet sealed roads. I also got good service from the Mitas E07 as a 50/50 tyre.
Excellent as always. As a new KLR owner I'm looking for what will replace the OEM tires and this was entertainly informative... which keeps my attention. lol I'm looking at the Michelin Anakee Wild on the rear and maybe the TKC80 on the front. I'd just go with the Dunlop D606 except I can't find them in the KLR rear's 130/80x17 size.
Hola from Veracruz, Mexico, what´s your choice?, for road, conmuting, every day, and some off road sometimes, all kind of terrain, knowing new places, Pirelli scorpion trail 2 or Metzeler Tourance Next ?? (or maybe another)
Wow, kid really knows his stuff. I just bought back my DRZ 400 from a buddy and I'll be kneading new shoes. Back when it was mine I remember being all about the mt21's, swore by em. I do mostly pavement miles although i pretend not. Any suggestions for me as much seems to have changed. Thanks
All your videos are top notch and straight forward as well as informative. I have a Vrod and Ktm 450 exc. You have helped me tremendously although I have not picked my choices yet. Leaning Michelin Scorcher as I have a 240 on rear. Ktm 450 exc looks like D606 rear and M21 front. You made awesome suggestions in all your videos. Tell me if you agree with my choices as I am in no hurry. Tomorrow will be fine, lol!!
I was wondering your thoughts on Mitas E07's. I have a F800GS, the factory tires have about 5k miles on them, so in a few months I will be looking for some new shoes on her. I commute 25miles each way to work, 5 days a week. I like to hit some gravel / light offroad from time to time on my way to and from work. I take the bike as long as there is no ice on the roads. What is a long life tire that you would recommend?
I'm having a really tough time finding a good 50/50 tire for my 2005 BMW F650gs single. It takes a 100/90-19 front and 130/80-17 rear that both take tubes. Seems like all the tires in my sizes that look and perform well are tubeless.
hello everyone, question: what kind of puncture resistance is mr Ryan referring to? aginst screws and nails found on roads or sharp rocks found off-road? could someone explain what makes a tire more puncture resistant than other? thanks
I have a Yamaha Super Tenere and love the OEM battle Wings it came with. I do have a tendency to drag an occasional peg. I have been told the mitas e07 is a great tire with better off road capabilities. But I'm afraid to loose the pavement advantage of the battle Wings. Is the mitas e07 as capable on pavement?
The E07 is a pretty big jump from the Battle Wings - *definitely* not as competent on pavement. You might want to consider a more in-between choice as someone who drags pegs... Avon TrailRiders? (fortnine.ca/en/avon-av54-trailrider-rear-tire). ~RyanF9
Hey Ryan!So I got a mag replacement after I put my 2005 Vstrom 1000 down. It came with a TKC70 for free! Was excited because of the free rubber until I heard you say "wobbles on some bikes". Should I chuck it and go with something else? (Battleaxe A40 on the rear)Thanx for the great channel!
Hey! Sweet deal to get some free rubber. Have you put a lot of miles on the tire yet? The TKC70 doesn't always have a wobbling problem - a lot of people have found it perfectly stable on their bikes. If you've used the tire for a while (at all speeds) and haven't noticed anything, I'd say keep it. ~RyanF9
Just a follow up on the new TKC70 on my Strom. Done about 3000km on them in the past month. Taken it through all the speeds with no wobble what so ever. They feel slightly more sensitive to inputs than the stock tire did at higher speeds.The only thing I'd say bothered me is the angle transition into corners, it starts off at a normal rate, but at some point it dips drastically (don't know if that makes sense.) I wont complain about the grip once its on the edge though. It feels amazing on the dirt roads as well! Cheers!
Thank you very much for your effort on your show, it is very educational. Now I encountered a complication maybe you have time to give me some advice. I give up a KTM 990 adventure for a new Ducati Multistrata GT. I do a lot of long-distance travel. I having problems getting a set of tires that would fit on my bike and for my type of riding. My old favorite tired the K60s, and all the new Adventure tires does not come in that size that fits on my bike. What do you recommend? Is there something new out there I don't know about. Peeta
Did I miss the Pirelli’s? Scorpion trail 2are a lovely grippy road tyre in my experience. They’ll do light trail work too of course, as will a track slick just about...
If you own a new Africa Twin, beware - the rear 150 cross section limits your choices - no Tourances or Anakee's will fit (except Anakee Wilds) - Ive gone for Mitas E07's - so far, so good. Any chance of you reviewing these Ryan? Cheers for another great vid :)
is it ok to mix and match theses? I like that thin one you should second and the one after that for the back tire. im going to be doing mostly on road if not entirely. These look cooler than normal street tires though.How do they compare to street tire in terms of mileage?
I bought Mitas E10 Dakar (front, 90/90-21) and Mitas E09 Dakar (rear, 120/90-17) for my 2006 Honda Transalp. I will go to Ukraine next month. What do you think about their design? E09 looks similar to Continental TKC70.
Hi Ryan I have a super tenere 1200 and currently have the Mitas E07 on it, I would like to replace them with a more quiet tyre your choose would be a Metzeler tourance Bridgestone TW 152 Shinko 705 Pirelli MT 90 Anakee 3 BIG NO Regards Paolo MR DJ cape town
Ryan, love your vids mate - well done - informative, entertaining with no BS. I have a KLR650 and I am keen to try out the new Motoz tyres - why - because I am an Aussie of course! I am however a bit confused as to which of their Dualsport tyres - the Tractionator Adventure or the Tractionator GPS - is the more road-biased hoop??? It is stated by Motoz that the GPS is 50/50 in one direction but more off-road biased in the other direction - to what percentage though and how does it compare to the Adventure percentage wise??? Care to share your thoughts???
Hey Andrew! The GPS is the more road-biased hoop... mainly because of the solid centre band. You should definitely choose the GPS if you care about longevity. The Adventure is better in the dirt but sacrifices a fair amount of mileage. I'd put the GPS as 50/50 or 40/60 (on/off) depending which way you run it. The Adventure is more like 30/70 all the time. ~RyanF9
Nice job wit this video Ryan. I am a young 62 still running hard both on and off road...in much shorter segments...yeahhhh. Wonder if you have any thoughts/experience with 19" DOT rated dirt track tires? Would like to try them on my CRF250. Vee rubber in Thailand makes the VRM-394 in two compounds. (I am in the "don't need them to last" camp.)
okay guys I drag pegs on a Yamaha Super Tenere. I love the OEM battle wings, but will be riding off road at a rally soon with some aggressive street riding as well. Will log about 3000 miles over about 5 days. Mitas eO7 was on my list but heard not great at lean angle on the street. How bout the Metzler karoo3s? Or how bout the shinko 804/805? Need tires that can corner on the street good and better than the OEM battle wings in the dirt
What do you think about the Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2 tires? A lot of friends recommend them to me for beeing really sticky on the road and also really good in the wet. Obviously very street oriented but as a 90/10 tire apperantly pretty good?
I'm looking to move off the stock rubber on my Africa Twin, am I crazy for thinking about a flat tracker style tire and should just go with one of these? this year I'll do mostly pavement with light gravel/fire road stuff
Ryan, what would you recommend for a 50 year old 125cc dual sport that has 3x18 wheels? For commuting that involves a very slavic country appropriate road but also city traffic. MIchelin citypro? Heidenau K41? There's like no tyres in that size i can find locally.
What do you recommend for a knobby looking tire for a scrambler/cafe bike? Ill be doing 70/30 but I want the look of the Mt21 and D606. Obviously theres a compromise on performance, but style man!
Well, the K60 didn't make it into this year's line-up, the Tractinator GPS seems to have knocked the Heidi off the throne. The K60 tends to be a mixed bag for many people. I myself had it on the 800GSA like the one in the back of the room and was very happy. It handled well in the dry, in the wet, in the soft, anywhere really and there was no howling or vibration that many others had reported. After getting the 1200GS this year and putting them on - completely different story. Stiff, felt like riding wooden tires. Front was obnoxiously loud, howling and vibrating at pretty much any speed. After switching to TKC80, just couldn't believe how more comfortable TKC's felt in comparison - softer, quieter, super confidence inspiring off-road and handled almost unbelievably well on pavement too. I might try the E805's you mention next - could be a cheaper alternative.
Thanks for the great review 👍 You didn't mention the Pirelli Scorpion MT 90 A/T which is great on road and pretty good on dry tracks and gravel - similar to the Continental TKC70. Cheers 😊
Wish I could get a pair of the Shinko 705s for the cost saving but unfortunately they only make one compatible with my front wheel size and not my rear so I'll have to increase my budget by a little. Probably go with a shinko 705 front and a TKC 70 rear
Ryan ,love the Bridgestone battle wings. Decent off road when dry and handles aggressive twisty riding well. What do you think of the newer Bridgestone battle axe A40. I realize probably a little less competent on dirt but how bout the tarmac in the twisties?
Given that it's 2020, any chance we'll see another update to this video? Trying to make some choices, and I trust f9 over pretty much everyone else...
Sounds like that’s a no. And why do you trust him? I have mixed feelings. I feel like he only showcases stuff he gets paid to showcase 🤷🏻♀️
@@nataliamiliano150 I highly doubt you would recommend Shinko’s over Dunlop and such, if your main interest was personal benefit via, sponsored kickbacks.
Also his cheaper cost factoring wouldn’t jive with trying to make more $.
His opinions seem quite detailed and from personal experience. I don’t see why I wouldn’t trust his. He has access to every tire, gets paid to know the products he sells & suggests, and doesn’t come across as a scripted, promotional attempt for one brand over another.
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These recommendations haven't really changed meaningfully enough to make a new video. Most of these tires are still the same and still just as good. Time moves slow in the cycle world
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Hello Ryan its been 3 year since your last tire review, there are new tires on the market in the 50/50 bracket, it would be nice to hear your comments 1st The knobby tire Anakee wild , AX 41, Motoz rallz and Mitas Eo 10
2nd The big lug tire Karoo 3, Dunlop trailmax mission, mitas Eo7 +
Looking forward to your reviews
Cheers for Cape town
My wife and I run the Kenda K270 on our DR650's and we get 14k kms on average. We rode across Canada this pass summer (5800+kms) and the tires performed flawlessly. Best bang for your buck in our opinion. Great video Fortnine team! *T4S*
Sum4Seb i had a set of those on my DR. Fantastic off road. I do more commuting on mine now, so i went with the 705s. Anything is better than the stock tires though.
I don't even own a dual sport and you just made me want to buy tires.
Nothing better than the smell of fresh rubber.
And Napalm
in the morning
Just put these tires on your sport bike and maybe some wider bars and hit the dirt?
I don't even own a motorcycle and I enjoy every of his videos.
I can vouch for the SHINKO 705's. Had them on a KTM 450 Enduro.
ONROAD: never slipped on dry/wet pavement, great cornering, handled highways speeds and were smooth/stable.
OFFROAD: excellent in dry hard packed gravel or dirt. Not so good in mud or grass.
What about sand? Well it's not a full on knobbie so the problem with mud and grass is expected. I'm thinking of switching my Pilot Road 4s for them.
Maximum Kek No experience in sand. sorry
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Which tyres would you recommend for a WR250r? I mainly ride on pavement
Michelin Anakee 3 is made from a single compound. It's hard all around and that shouldn't be a complaint. It's to send feedback to rider when riding off road. After all, it's a dual sport tire. Great video Ryan, as always.
New Tire review coming ?
2019 !
Yes please!
1silvervespa when please? I’d appreciate the GT variants being reviewed as I ride one of those two wheeled land cruisers (K1600 GTL). Thanks.
I have been traveling across the Americas, started in Miami, through Baja, then Mexico down to Panama and across the Darien to Colombia and now entering Bolivia and over 32,000 km so far on Heidenau K60 Scout.s. On my second set after 20,000 km, and could have gone longer. The only issue for me has been the wet slippery red clay on the Ecuador border where I had my first off, exiting a corner they just slid and kept sliding until my inglorious off. Other than that they have been sensational.
Since February 2016, Continental changed the TKC-70 and they don't wobble anymore. Excellent tyres for my R1200GS.
Your reviews are head and shoulders above most others I have seen. Great editing for relevance. Thank you for not wasting my time.
I've run 705s on a KLR, a Tiger Explorer and now my Tiger 800. Best for the money period. I've got over 80,000 miles of experience on them. I now am trying the 804/805 combo on the 800 and love them for 50/50 riding.
Mark Jacobs
Hi, was it Tiger 800xc or the road version? I'd like to buy Shinko 705 for my Tiger 800xc, but apparently they don't have tube tires in size 90/90/21. Can I use tubless tires?
@@WatubaYES, but still put tube in ;-)
Hey Ryan you do excellent commentaries. I've been riding over 50 years. I have had my motorcycle endorsement for 47 years.I have Been a motorcycle mechanic for 40 years. I mainly work on the Big Four Honda Yamaha Kawasaki Suzuki dirt and Street. I have been running the Shinko tires for as long as they've been out dirt and Street. Bottom line is if you don't ride for a living this is the best tire for the money hands down.
Thanks to this video I just bought a pair of Shinzo 705 for my 2000 KLR650!!
Need to find a professional review of the new Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR to compare with the TKC70
Did u find any?
i just got a set of Pirelli Scorpion STRs. ready for the season
I bought a shinko yesterday and I'm amazed of its performance. Definitely a 50/50 for me. Roads in my city are not good which makes shinko perfect for my everyday commute.
Brilliant review of the current dual sport tires. You tell it exactly the way it is and get the essential points across succinctly. I do quite long off road hauls, like the extended version of the TAT in August 2015. I flew from England with my KTM690 into Montreal on Air Canada (bless them, cheaper than shipping and on my bike within an hour of landing) then crossed 14 states in the US before riding up to Vancouver to fly back.On that 7,500 mile trip I went through 3 rear TCK80's and frankly I should have used K60s from the Canadian border to Mississippi which was 70 per cent tarmac and then as it changed to 85% dirt from Mississippi onwards over the Rockies and across Utah and Nevada I should have used Dunlop D606's . Before I set off from Heathrow on Air Canada later this year to New Zealand with my bike I will be certain to check out your channel for any updates. Thanks pal for a great contribution.
I just came back from a 11000 km Tour on a BMW R 1200 GS (LC) equipped with a pair of Continental's TKC 70. The route went from Germany via the Baltic States, Finland, Norway up to the Nordkapp, then southward along the norwegian westcoast to Langesund, via ferry to Denmark and finally back to Germany. The outside air temperature ranged from 35°C (95°F) down to 2°C (35°F) with lots of sun, rain and even some snow. I came across all kinds of roads from perfect to dirt track. The TKC 70 proved to be a wonderful tire. Comfortable, low rolling noise, very reliable with lots of grip under all road conditions, good directional stability, agile with almost no diminishing handling after lots of wear and even providing a high mileage (I made the whole trip on one set of tires). And most importantly: There was no wobbling of the front tire whatsoever. I even considered using this tire as my standard.
I would give a good shoutout for the Michelin Anakee Wild-tyres, I have them on my R1200GSA LC and they handle really well on road as well as offroad.
The rear tyre usually makes about 8000km's and front tyre somewhere between 15000-20000km's.
Great review, one tire to add would be the Pirelli Scorpion MT90. I run these on my 950 Adventure and 119OR.
Recently switched from TKC70 to the Anakee III on my KLR and couldn't agree more.
Hi Ryan. I believe I gave you the same comment last year. Not mentioning Mitas 07s (sorry i said 09s) is not talking about one of the best 50-50 tires if not the best in the market. Anyways, you still rock! thanks for your awesome videos!
Oh I watched this video 2 years ago and again today. My small 150cc bike is having now E705 at rear and 244 at front both from shinko and both were in this video😁 I think Ryan will approve 😁👍 great video
Perfect balance of facts, opinion, and entertainment. Great vid.
I've got the D606 rear MT21 front combo on my XR650L and it corners like it's on rails both on and offroad
Just bought the Shinko 705 for my new KTM 1290 Super Adventure R. Thanks for the great review!
Just ordered a pair of Shinkos for my xr650l and was happy to see fortnine talking about them.
I purchased a set of Shinko 705 tires based partially on your recommendation and ended up with a bad front . The wheel would produce oscillation at certain speeds . Now this is not indicative of these tires and I will try them again in the future but it illustrates a need to test the tires after they are installed. Give them some love as new tires are notoriously awkward but look for oscillation at higher speeds. I did get to try them at low speeds on broken rock and loose gravel in a hill situation. Despite being a terribly new person to off road they were comfortably stable. I felt like the bike was sure footed and responsive using these tires.
You can also consider the Michelin Anekee Adventure tire for 80/20 riding. I am really happy with it so far.
As always, excellent video Ryan. 🤘
I’m glad I found this channel, thanks for the effort you put into the videos. Pure motivation.
The quality and conciseness of your videos is exemplary. Other companies should learn.... If you are ever passing through Thunder Bay ON let me know.
I appreciate your honest, no BS and highly informed reviews. On this review I appreciated your opinion near the end of tires for lighter bikes. I just bought a Versys X 300 and I'm considering the Shinko 244 as the stock tires are way too street oriented for my tastes.
I love my TKC80 front tire - super stable, it absolutely got rid of the head sway I was experiencing with my previous knobby (the terrible IRC TR8 - buyer beware). I've got a Shinko 805 to try out next on the rear. Not sure if I can stray from my beloved TKC80 front even though I haven't tried much else...it just does everything I want it to!
Please review the Avon trail rider and Pirelli MT60 RS and MT90 tyres.
sweet! I'm running K60 scout rear and a TCK80 front on my 03 F650GS and love em so far, first season. Cool thing is that my size of K60 does NOT have the solid bar centre but has quite the spacing throughout the tire profile.
I have to agree with your light dual sport suggestion. Used an mt21 front and 606 rear on a trip through utah and colorado in 2013. Great wear, and still sticky on pavement. Last year used the shinko 244 and loved it for longevity. Have not tried the anakee 3 yet, but the compound worked great in the wet commuting on my vstrom. Currently using 705 front and rear on my versys, and although a bit sketch at the limit or in wet, cost can not be beat. Keep up the great reviews.
Dude, I really appreciate the quality of your videos. Great presenting!
His videos are absolutely cracking. I’m using Pirelli Scorpion 🦂 Rally STR Tires on my KTM Duke 125 just had them fitted 200 miles ago and so far so good.
What is the meanings of the lines (red, yeallow, blue,..) on the tyres? Can you explain it in the next video?
How about Michelin Anakee Wild? Looks like a really good tire?
The Shinko 805 is an awesome tyre; I went through three on my Africa Twin (see it in the F9 review video ;) ) my last one lasted from Utah off road to the Oregon coast THEN on road from Oregon to Victoria(BC) and back to Montreal.
Did Continental fixed the wobbling issue on their front tire TKC70 ?
Ryan, these are the best, most informative videos I have seen. Keep it up! Now take my money!
Thanks Ryan for more than good information for on/off skins. I'm in Michigan and ride rain or shine on an "07" 883 Sportster. Off road tires are good for most highways in this U.S. State; All the roads are "sucko". In my opinion 50/50 tires are the best choice, in the cities too! Thanks man for the great job! James Smith.
Do you recommend Shinko 705 for Middle East where temperatures liter higher than other areas?
Thank you very much for your excellent reviews.
What would you suggest for stock 2017 Ktm 350 excf street tire. I have an off-road wheel set. Looking for street wheel set same size wheels
What about metzeler tourance next vs anakee 3? That is a popular debate it seems ?
It is a popular debate! Never really understood it though... the Anakee 3s are *much* grippier on pavement and about equal on the dirt. In my opinion, the only reason to go away from the Anakee 3s is the road noise (which is admittedly annoying). But from there, I'd rather take a Pilot Road 4 Trail than a Tourance Next. ~RyanF9
Great review Ryan. Yours is the only one with any decent information on the Tractionator GPS and has convinced me try one on my Ducati Enduro. I was struggling to decide whether to mount in the 50/50 or mostly off-road direction as I have a lengthy road ride in a few weeks. Considering I don't really notice the bumpiness or noise of the Pirelli Scorpion Rally and prefer maximum grip when venturing off-road, I'm swaying towards just leaving it in mostly off-road instead of flipping it around to suit the ride.
Ryan, love your reviews. and you are very quick to respond to comments, which is very helpful. I do have a question in this arena. You mentioned your "beloved Heidenau K60 Scouts," but they did not make your list. I am a fan of them too, mostly due to their long lives (19,000 km back and 25,000 km front on a 1200GS) and good all around handling. Am i living in the past? What am I giving up by running them?
Hello! The short answer to your question is no - you're not living in the past. The K60 is still a phenomenal tire in terms of mileage, especially considering how well it handles off-road. Expect to see a lot of ADV guys still wearing them in 2017. And 2018. And probably 2019. *But* the Tractionator GPS (from this video) does the same job as the K60 and lasts a smidge longer. Plus it's reversible and that brings some versatility to the table. Most people will never flip the tire around anyway, but the fact that you *could* flip it to get more off-road traction is enough to choose it over the K60. Hope that helps! ~RyanF9
What about the Karoo 3s?
+1 Karoo 3s ??
The tire?
I could not wait to tear off my Karoo 3's. Scary on anything but paved roads. Good on pavement, and gives bragging rights for visual design, but they are not for me. I liked the old Karoo 2's better. Even though the 3's last longer. The achilles of the Karoo 3 is the sideways grip in the loose stuff. Hope that helps:)
For aggressive 90% off road on my Husaberg 570 I run the Motoz Tractionator D ( Intermediate compound ) and it's very good. Excellent all round.
I love taking my CBR250R off road. What would be a great tire for me? Would like a semi aggressive tread. Like a 60/40 🤷♂️
J Bouchard upgrade to a Hyabusa with slicks & shortened swing-arm
nice comparison. ive run the tkc80 and d606 rear... d606 is by farvrhe best dual sport tire ive had. pushing it hard on and off road i got around 8000kms. the tkc80 is amazingly grippy on the road but it wears down so fast and the knobs start of so small that after 500kms the knobs are not even up to scratch in the mud and dirt. the tkc80 is great if u dont mind changing it every 2 to 3000kms. however the tkc80 front is awesome... so the ultimate pairing is d606 rear with tkc80 front.
Awesome review R9; very comprehensive! My Mitas E-07's are just about shot, so this review is perfect timing - E-07's are great in dry dirt and even good wet dirt, but just okay on pavement (front floats on grooves). Shinko 705's are excellent on my Triumph Tiger 800xc for serious knee dragging and decent DRY dirt riding and slide very predictably on asphalt. I've been wanting Tractionators... but last I checked they're not in my size (90/90-21 front is limiting).
Great review man. I run the Shinko 805 on my super tenere and they are absolutely fantastic.
I love the Michelin Sirac tires. For me they are Perfect! lots of predictable solid grip on road and very good off-road capabilities! i have bought them for 3 bikes so far and loved them!
Second set of Annakee 3's and have never had a puncture.
Mixed riding .
2600 km tour of Newfoundland no issues.
Lots of mixed trails and beaches.
Did get over 17,ooo on the set.
They do hate wet grass.
But then so do I ha ....
Never had any wobble or slip in turns not even wet turns .
2012 KLR650 .
Oh boy we're back on track. Happy new year RyanF9 and I'm looking forward to all the vids this year.
Just got in my new front tire for my 2020 Tw200 (Shinko 244 5.10-18) I've heard so many good things. The tread depth is a lot beefer than I expected! Time to replace the "death wing" .....
Something to mention with the Shinko 244 is the speed rating. They're only L rated, so if your bike does more than 75mph, don't get the 244. The K270 is rated for 93, so it isn't much better, but for someone on a KLR that does highway miles in between trails, being able to do 80 is nice.
Motoz Tractionator GPS was my tyre of choice ( mounted in the off road direction) on my Tiger 800XCx for 50/50 use. My buddy on a KTM 990 hated the Motoz GPS ( mounted road directions) on wet sealed roads. I also got good service from the Mitas E07 as a 50/50 tyre.
Hi Ryan, any feedback on Pirelli, both MT90 and the new Rally STR?
Thanks
Like my 85/15 Metzeler Tourance on my GS. Great commuting / touring and can turn off onto truck trails and fire roads. Good balance if you ride a lot.
Spring 2022 and I’m going to try the Heidenau Scouts for pending adventures.
What about t he Anakee 3 for a vstrom 650? I used them on an r1200 gs and I loved them (road)
Excellent as always.
As a new KLR owner I'm looking for what will replace the OEM tires and this was entertainly informative... which keeps my attention. lol I'm looking at the Michelin Anakee Wild on the rear and maybe the TKC80 on the front. I'd just go with the Dunlop D606 except I can't find them in the KLR rear's 130/80x17 size.
Loved the D606 on my DRZ400S but can't get a front tire. I am going to try the MT21. I don't like the idea of mixing tires.
sooooo what about a Shinko E805 in the rear and a TKC80 in the front? hmmm
'Tis a very popular combination... ~RyanF9
irc 33 rear 5.10-17, Shinko SR241 front 3.00-17, and under $100 for the set for bad ass knobbies on 17" wheels that last a long time
On my Bike TKC 70 are awesome. Not worried about $100 bucks
enjoyed your video
Hola from Veracruz, Mexico, what´s your choice?, for road, conmuting, every day, and some off road sometimes, all kind of terrain, knowing new places, Pirelli scorpion trail 2 or Metzeler Tourance Next ?? (or maybe another)
I’d recommend the Shinko 244 Dual Sport Tire if your on enduro on a budget but I’d recommend Dunlop’s if your going to spend more time off road
Wow, kid really knows his stuff. I just bought back my DRZ 400 from a buddy and I'll be kneading new shoes. Back when it was mine I remember being all about the mt21's, swore by em. I do mostly pavement miles although i pretend not. Any suggestions for me as much seems to have changed. Thanks
A3's just HOWL! Came on my GS, and couldn't wait to get them off!
Best Review and explanation on Tyres I've seen .... Thanks from sunny Wales and keep up the good work :)
All your videos are top notch and straight forward as well as informative. I have a Vrod and Ktm 450 exc. You have helped me tremendously although I have not picked my choices yet. Leaning Michelin Scorcher as I have a 240 on rear. Ktm 450 exc looks like D606 rear and M21 front. You made awesome suggestions in all your videos. Tell me if you agree with my choices as I am in no hurry. Tomorrow will be fine, lol!!
I was wondering your thoughts on Mitas E07's. I have a F800GS, the factory tires have about 5k miles on them, so in a few months I will be looking for some new shoes on her. I commute 25miles each way to work, 5 days a week. I like to hit some gravel / light offroad from time to time on my way to and from work. I take the bike as long as there is no ice on the roads. What is a long life tire that you would recommend?
I have the Anakee 3 on my XL1000v but as far as i know its a duo compound tire. i absolutely love it by the way
I'm having a really tough time finding a good 50/50 tire for my 2005 BMW F650gs single. It takes a 100/90-19 front and 130/80-17 rear that both take tubes. Seems like all the tires in my sizes that look and perform well are tubeless.
Great video!, but what about the Pirelli scorpion trail versus the Michelin Anakee?
What do you think of the MOTOZ TRACTIONATOR ADVENTURE tire as a TKC80 replacement? Looks solid!
hello everyone, question:
what kind of puncture resistance is mr Ryan referring to? aginst screws and nails found on roads or sharp rocks found off-road?
could someone explain what makes a tire more puncture resistant than other? thanks
I have a Yamaha Super Tenere and love the OEM battle Wings it came with. I do have a tendency to drag an occasional peg. I have been told the mitas e07 is a great tire with better off road capabilities. But I'm afraid to loose the pavement advantage of the battle Wings. Is the mitas e07 as capable on pavement?
The E07 is a pretty big jump from the Battle Wings - *definitely* not as competent on pavement. You might want to consider a more in-between choice as someone who drags pegs... Avon TrailRiders? (fortnine.ca/en/avon-av54-trailrider-rear-tire). ~RyanF9
FortNine Thanks for replying. The trail rider looks to be a similar tire to the battle Wings unless my assumption is wrong?
I'm in the same boat as you. May just have E07's. And slow things down a bit, maybe look at MT60 Or MT65
Hey Ryan!So I got a mag replacement after I put my 2005 Vstrom 1000 down. It came with a TKC70 for free! Was excited because of the free rubber until I heard you say "wobbles on some bikes". Should I chuck it and go with something else? (Battleaxe A40 on the rear)Thanx for the great channel!
Hey! Sweet deal to get some free rubber. Have you put a lot of miles on the tire yet? The TKC70 doesn't always have a wobbling problem - a lot of people have found it perfectly stable on their bikes. If you've used the tire for a while (at all speeds) and haven't noticed anything, I'd say keep it. ~RyanF9
Many thanks. I'll see what she does after some thrashing on the twisties! Thanks for the great channel. Greetings from South Africa!
Just a follow up on the new TKC70 on my Strom. Done about 3000km on them in the past month. Taken it through all the speeds with no wobble what so ever. They feel slightly more sensitive to inputs than the stock tire did at higher speeds.The only thing I'd say bothered me is the angle transition into corners, it starts off at a normal rate, but at some point it dips drastically (don't know if that makes sense.) I wont complain about the grip once its on the edge though. It feels amazing on the dirt roads as well!
Cheers!
Thank you very much for your effort on your show, it is very educational. Now I encountered a complication maybe you have time to give me some advice. I give up a KTM 990 adventure for a new Ducati Multistrata GT. I do a lot of long-distance travel. I having problems getting a set of tires that would fit on my bike and for my type of riding. My old favorite tired the K60s, and all the new Adventure tires does not come in that size that fits on my bike. What do you recommend? Is there something new out there I don't know about.
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Hey Ryan, long time subscriber first time poster
My question, how about e705 front and tkc70 rear?
Love your stuff, cheers from Chile
Did I miss the Pirelli’s? Scorpion trail 2are a lovely grippy road tyre in my experience. They’ll do light trail work too of course, as will a track slick just about...
If you own a new Africa Twin, beware - the rear 150 cross section limits your choices - no Tourances or Anakee's will fit (except Anakee Wilds) - Ive gone for Mitas E07's - so far, so good. Any chance of you reviewing these Ryan? Cheers for another great vid :)
Why haven't you also choosen some 90% onroad tires like the Continental Trail Attack 2, Dunlop Trailsmart or Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2 ?
is it ok to mix and match theses? I like that thin one you should second and the one after that for the back tire. im going to be doing mostly on road if not entirely. These look cooler than normal street tires though.How do they compare to street tire in terms of mileage?
I bought Mitas E10 Dakar (front, 90/90-21) and Mitas E09 Dakar (rear, 120/90-17) for my 2006 Honda Transalp. I will go to Ukraine next month.
What do you think about their design? E09 looks similar to Continental TKC70.
Hi Ryan
I have a super tenere 1200 and currently have the Mitas E07 on it, I would like to replace them with a more quiet tyre your choose would be a Metzeler tourance
Bridgestone TW 152
Shinko 705
Pirelli MT 90
Anakee 3 BIG NO
Regards
Paolo MR DJ
cape town
Greetings!
It’s now 2021. I just bought a Kawasaki Versys X300. Has your favorite dual sport tire changed any?
Ryan, love your vids mate - well done - informative, entertaining with no BS. I have a KLR650 and I am keen to try out the new Motoz tyres - why - because I am an Aussie of course! I am however a bit confused as to which of their Dualsport tyres - the Tractionator Adventure or the Tractionator GPS - is the more road-biased hoop??? It is stated by Motoz that the GPS is 50/50 in one direction but more off-road biased in the other direction - to what percentage though and how does it compare to the Adventure percentage wise??? Care to share your thoughts???
Hey Andrew! The GPS is the more road-biased hoop... mainly because of the solid centre band. You should definitely choose the GPS if you care about longevity. The Adventure is better in the dirt but sacrifices a fair amount of mileage. I'd put the GPS as 50/50 or 40/60 (on/off) depending which way you run it. The Adventure is more like 30/70 all the time. ~RyanF9
Thanks mate. Off to have a look at some today!
Nice job wit this video Ryan. I am a young 62 still running hard both on and off road...in much shorter segments...yeahhhh. Wonder if you have any thoughts/experience with 19" DOT rated dirt track tires? Would like to try them on my CRF250. Vee rubber in Thailand makes the VRM-394 in two compounds. (I am in the "don't need them to last" camp.)
okay guys I drag pegs on a Yamaha Super Tenere. I love the OEM battle wings, but will be riding off road at a rally soon with some aggressive street riding as well. Will log about 3000 miles over about 5 days. Mitas eO7 was on my list but heard not great at lean angle on the street. How bout the Metzler karoo3s? Or how bout the shinko 804/805? Need tires that can corner on the street good and better than the OEM battle wings in the dirt
What do you think about the Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2 tires? A lot of friends recommend them to me for beeing really sticky on the road and also really good in the wet.
Obviously very street oriented but as a 90/10 tire apperantly pretty good?
I'm looking to move off the stock rubber on my Africa Twin, am I crazy for thinking about a flat tracker style tire and should just go with one of these? this year I'll do mostly pavement with light gravel/fire road stuff
Ryan, what would you recommend for a 50 year old 125cc dual sport that has 3x18 wheels? For commuting that involves a very slavic country appropriate road but also city traffic. MIchelin citypro? Heidenau K41? There's like no tyres in that size i can find locally.
What do you recommend for a knobby looking tire for a scrambler/cafe bike? Ill be doing 70/30 but I want the look of the Mt21 and D606. Obviously theres a compromise on performance, but style man!
Well, the K60 didn't make it into this year's line-up, the Tractinator GPS seems to have knocked the Heidi off the throne. The K60 tends to be a mixed bag for many people. I myself had it on the 800GSA like the one in the back of the room and was very happy. It handled well in the dry, in the wet, in the soft, anywhere really and there was no howling or vibration that many others had reported. After getting the 1200GS this year and putting them on - completely different story. Stiff, felt like riding wooden tires. Front was obnoxiously loud, howling and vibrating at pretty much any speed. After switching to TKC80, just couldn't believe how more comfortable TKC's felt in comparison - softer, quieter, super confidence inspiring off-road and handled almost unbelievably well on pavement too. I might try the E805's you mention next - could be a cheaper alternative.
Thanks for the great review 👍
You didn't mention the Pirelli Scorpion MT 90 A/T which is great on road and pretty good on dry tracks and gravel - similar to the Continental TKC70.
Cheers 😊
Wish I could get a pair of the Shinko 705s for the cost saving but unfortunately they only make one compatible with my front wheel size and not my rear so I'll have to increase my budget by a little. Probably go with a shinko 705 front and a TKC 70 rear
Ryan ,love the Bridgestone battle wings. Decent off road when dry and handles aggressive twisty riding well. What do you think of the newer Bridgestone battle axe A40. I realize probably a little less competent on dirt but how bout the tarmac in the twisties?