How a Gaming Community Tracked Down a Murderer | The Case of Menhaz Zaman

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    00:00 Intro
    02:58 Bangladesh / Toronto
    04:54 The Zaman family
    08:55 Menhaz Zaman
    12:00 Crumbling...
    16:09 July 27th 2019 (& Discord Messages)
    23:00 Legal Proceedings
    24:44 Outro
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  • @CoffeehouseCrime
    @CoffeehouseCrime  9 місяців тому +245

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    • @Bunbur
      @Bunbur 9 місяців тому +5

      Drinking my coffee right now, Adrian just made my day

    • @ATLmodK
      @ATLmodK 9 місяців тому +2

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    • @FlamingBasketballClub
      @FlamingBasketballClub 9 місяців тому

      Menhaz Zaman is the definition of brain dead. Dude literally aired his dirty laundry to Discord moderators.

    • @bigmatthawk18
      @bigmatthawk18 9 місяців тому +5

      I’d like to brush up on my school German, French or Spanish and I would also like to learn Japanese

    • @mousemd
      @mousemd 9 місяців тому

      I like the way you named your channel. I think most presenters use their names? Even among those that don't, I think yours is what would you say "catchy"

  • @arunnath3447
    @arunnath3447 9 місяців тому +2928

    he wasn't trying to avoid shame for his family, he wanted to escape the shame he would have to face when his parents found out. He didn't to it to protect them like he claims, he did it to protect himself and not have to see the consequences he deserved for his lies.

    • @Dragon0fDeath
      @Dragon0fDeath 9 місяців тому +86

      What makes it worse is they were family, the worst it would have been a yelling and family involvement... Not worth getting murdered over

    • @BrodeyDoverosx
      @BrodeyDoverosx 9 місяців тому +41

      Dude. It isn’t even hard to get into York for engineering. Worst case there are many more options in Ontario where the admissions require lower grades or the schools will provide transition courses to bump up your grades and get you read for university.

    • @mrdojob
      @mrdojob 9 місяців тому +54

      I agreed with you until you said "consequences he deserved for his lies".
      I don't agree with the murders obviously, but sometimes parents put so much pressure on their kids, that the kids have no other choice other than to resort to lies and dishonestly to avoid their parents wrath and to give themselves breathing space.
      Not surprisingly, the powder keg of lies, tensions and anger, mostly created by the parents just explodes. While I don't condone murder, parents like this know the rules of the games they play and the potential consequences.
      As the saying goes, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

    • @arunnath3447
      @arunnath3447 9 місяців тому +19

      @@mrdojob fair enough. you do make valid points about parents piling pressure on their kids just to parade their achievements for societal validation

    • @jennifers8843
      @jennifers8843 9 місяців тому

      Considering he could’ve just killed himself- you’re correct!

  • @Rakel6784
    @Rakel6784 9 місяців тому +1791

    This is why I never pressured my sons to become whatever I wanted them to be...I'm a single mom with 3 adult sons..I told them whatever their dreams were I would support them...My oldest son became a Police Officer, my second son a Math Teacher and my third son became a Dentist...I'm so proud of them

    • @domoetker3967
      @domoetker3967 9 місяців тому +40

      muslim thing, dont worry

    • @alfredagain
      @alfredagain 9 місяців тому +79

      Good parenting, well done! I was pushed by one parent a lot, who didn't understand I was a totally different person to them. We were at loggerheads all the time. Every dalliance I was interested in, that beloved parent was the one obstacle to me being comfortable with enjoying it. I never became anything special career-wise. Though I totally deplore what this evil young loser did, I partially understand what he may have felt before his psychotic deeds.

    • @famdownload5265
      @famdownload5265 9 місяців тому

      @@domoetker3967 ??? It's definitely not a muslim only issue! There's alot of similar cases and most of them aren't muslim, it's just shitty parents pushing their shitty children to the edge! Anyways your hatred is showing..

    • @peachesbunny
      @peachesbunny 9 місяців тому +34

      That's actually amazing of you! Your sons are contributing to your community in multiple aspects and that's all thanks to their supportive mother(and of course their personal hard work and skills). Much kudos

    • @nikel-
      @nikel- 9 місяців тому +55

      @@domoetker3967 more like Asian thing. Two of my online friends are harassed by their family for not being something they wanted to be, none of them are muslim. In my own case, a muslim family, my parent min maxed both my and my brothers' educational path. My brother live in our hometown and married, I went minimum contact with the rest of my family and live in the capital city. Only my sister is free to choose whatever she wanted for education, but even then my mom forced her career choice
      All of those mentioned in my story are Asian

  • @roja7426
    @roja7426 9 місяців тому +477

    Malesa was my daughter’s best friend. They went to Bur Oak high school together. We went to the pre-trial hearing and not a single member of her extended family was present. It was just us and a young guy who lived in Markham and felt bad for the deceased family. Malesa’s brother didn’t shed any tears. He just stared at us. We didn’t attend the trial because at the pre-trial my daughter was and is still grieving and I knew she wouldn’t be able hear the details. Malesa still lives in our memories.

    • @abbyryan788
      @abbyryan788 9 місяців тому +21

      I'm sorry for your loss

    • @riggs20
      @riggs20 8 місяців тому +1

      Did she have any family left in Canada?

    • @roja7426
      @roja7426 8 місяців тому +24

      @@riggs20
      She has relatives but the only immediate family left is the murderer, her brother.

    • @RandomSwiftie13
      @RandomSwiftie13 8 місяців тому +16

      I think most of their families were in Bangladesh and India and because of this most likely they couldn't come for the trials of the case because of financial issues. Going to Canada is EXPENSIVE from here in India(i would know, I'm still trying to get their throw the legal system). They probably only sent two or three people from family for the trials.

    • @roja7426
      @roja7426 8 місяців тому +23

      @@RandomSwiftie13
      You obviously don’t know anything about the families here in Toronto. Don’t “think” and assumed. Look up who funded the burial, it was Malesa’s other best friend. She sat up a Go Fund Me page. Why didn’t the relatives in Toronto do that? There is a whole lot you don’t know. However, I gave credit to Malesa’s other best friend whom I wouldn’t name because I don’t have her consent to name her. To this day her other best friend is traumatized by the senseless act of Malesa’s monster brother.

  • @IsaacCarmichael
    @IsaacCarmichael 9 місяців тому +382

    Parenting is no joke. Motivating your kids without pushing them too hard is a delicate balance.

    • @ena.takeover
      @ena.takeover 9 місяців тому +43

      I have no doubt. But locking them out of the house at night, being extremely controlling and not giving them the opportunity to choose their own life, career, friends, partnerships etc. is... definitely below what most can and will do.

    • @wehavebiscuits
      @wehavebiscuits 9 місяців тому +36

      There was no "delicate balance" here. They were typical abusive asian parents. Doesn't justify murder, but I think we can be pretty sure that it wouldn't have happened had they just not been assholes.

    • @kuro9410_ilust
      @kuro9410_ilust 9 місяців тому +28

      @@wehavebiscuits asian parenting tyically never ends well in asia countries these kind of murders are actually commonplace

    • @snazzydrew
      @snazzydrew 9 місяців тому +11

      @@kuro9410_ilustI used to hang out with a very asian friend of mine every summer. I would stay with him and his family all summer because they were pretty sweet to me. but his parents and older siblings were really brutal with him in terms of pressure. and he was really intense with them. he often told me that he wanted to kill them... I thought it was weird but hey for some reason all that crazy yelling at each other didn't bother me as much. Probably because it was an a language I didn't understand. I was actually always really worried that he would harm one of his parents one day.

    • @vincent67239
      @vincent67239 9 місяців тому +3

      @@kuro9410_ilustI’ve never heard of that being the case. Do you have a source for that?

  • @gisselleayala8092
    @gisselleayala8092 9 місяців тому +904

    His poor sister. She was so beautiful and was the black sheep for so many years. She was finally turning things around in her life. Rest in peace ❤️

    • @jessicataylor7174
      @jessicataylor7174 9 місяців тому +168

      His sister is the only one I truly feel sorry for. She was as much a victim of their environment and abusive childhood as he was. If she had had the chance she might have escaped, she was already taking the first steps. I may be wrong, but I suspect he killed her because she was there and would have prevented him from killing his dad. Of course there is the chance he hated or resented her too, there is the dynamic of pitting siblings against each other in scapegoat/golden child. Her murder is especially tragic.

    • @wehavebiscuits
      @wehavebiscuits 9 місяців тому +36

      ​@@jessicataylor7174yeah he was probably jealous of her social popularity compared to his as well

    • @elconquistador9667
      @elconquistador9667 9 місяців тому +23

      @@jessicataylor7174 His sister had more balls than him.

    • @3nertia
      @3nertia 9 місяців тому +16

      She would've been the reflection he didn't want to see heh

    • @oooh19
      @oooh19 9 місяців тому +2

      @@jessicataylor7174yea why would parents want to have their kids against each other?

  • @simonaxlz
    @simonaxlz 9 місяців тому +1394

    He had 4 opportunities to stop and change course of action. He is truly subhuman and pathetic.

    • @younoticedme
      @younoticedme 9 місяців тому +69

      He didn't want to disappoint his family so he killed them and saved himself? Makes so sense. He wanted to live on his own terms. How sad to kill his family one by one.

    • @raymondtorres-gy8uj
      @raymondtorres-gy8uj 9 місяців тому +30

      ​@@younoticedmeLet's see how well that part of him living in his own terms works out for him in prison...🤦😂
      Sub human is right!! Pathetic is right also!!
      What's wrong with these people? Why would you do something like that to any humans let alone your family, mother, father,sister, grandma and he would have killed the whole country if he could....did he think he would live happy for the rest of his life? Idiot people, hope he dreams with them,about them for the rest of his life, so he can suffer like they suffered those last minutes, seconds as they Saw their son killing them....R.I.P.
      Rot in prison worm!!! Now i finish the rest of the story still have'nt seen it all just had to write this down... Blessings to you all from Puerto Rico with lot's of love

    • @jonslg240
      @jonslg240 9 місяців тому +33

      Coffee says "he craved some kind of control in his life' - he had total control of his life. He chose to lie about the college, do no work in community college, and play games all day.
      He could have gotten a job and moved out. Or did any other of the things above differently.
      He was mad because his parents wouldn't financially support him to play video games all day. Then when it came time where the gig was up, he went on a murder spree because "his life was so unfair".
      He had complete control over his life, and made all the wrong decisions.. so saying "he craved control over his life" is a bullshit copout.

    • @jonslg240
      @jonslg240 9 місяців тому +25

      He also said he did it "so he did it so his family members wouldn't have to feel shame for his failures."
      However, he did it so that HE wouldn't have to feel the shame from his family members.
      He then gave himself up to police like the coward he is.
      Because the only person who was important to Man-Azz was Man-Azz.

    • @jonslg240
      @jonslg240 9 місяців тому +18

      And his family didn't "put too much pressure on him".. his sister took the same pressure and still did things the family didn't agree with.

  • @Misanthropic-Genocide
    @Misanthropic-Genocide 9 місяців тому +55

    There are many similarities between this case and the Jennifer Pan case of 2010. Both happened in the Toronto suburbs and are both stories of immigrant families pressuring their children to reach success academically - resulting in them leading double lives and eventually, committing familicide.

    • @cail171
      @cail171 9 місяців тому +2

      Yes I agree. I get there are no perfect parents/families, ppl need to learn to get help or walk away. I don't see how red flags r missed this badly. 4 years of this huge school lie. Who was paying for the classes? Idk.

  • @dyrr836
    @dyrr836 9 місяців тому +104

    This case is heartbreaking, but there's a silver lining that always impresses me. You often hear about Discord/gamer types not taking stuff like this seriously, thinking gore and edgy shit is funny or cool. But then you hear a story like this and you realize no, that's not indicative of the real world or how most people operate. Major props to those folks for putting their best foot forward to try and help, even if they couldn't save the rest of the family the family it shows that unlike Menhaz they have real heart and humanity. I hope they don't blame themselves for the loss, it's not their fault that another guy decided to be a psychotic piece of shit.

    • @cwp24
      @cwp24 8 місяців тому +12

      They shouldn’t blame themselves at all, the only one to blame is the murderous lying son. They have never witnessed a crime like that happen right in front of them. I can understand them feeling helpless. They are the real MVPS, while they couldn’t save the family, they managed to get him put in jail so he can’t hurt anyone else. While I do believe that a parent wanting their children to take a certain career path is not good, as that takes away their freedom to do what their own hearts desire in terms of a job. We all have our strengths and weaknesses when it comes to that. Not everyone is a perfect fit for a job. I can understand that he went through that pressure, but the way he handled it was disgusting. Murdering your entire family just to cover up a lie instead of facing the consequences of your actions and tell the truth shows how rotten he became.
      While I maybe struggling with getting a job, I will NEVER RESORT TO THIS!!

  • @justinknight8281
    @justinknight8281 9 місяців тому +1462

    It’s crazy how so many cases of young adults murdering their parents start with a lie about going to university. Chandler Halderson comes to mind.

    • @davidlang1125
      @davidlang1125 9 місяців тому +174

      Jennifer Pan.

    • @lindaportuguesinha6065
      @lindaportuguesinha6065 9 місяців тому +187

      That's nNOT when it starts. It starts with the parents pressuring a kid to become their personal project. University is just the last stop for the results to show up. Naturally, that's when things will be discovered. Fear, panic even, shows up... reactions can be extreme.

    • @Sputterbugz
      @Sputterbugz 9 місяців тому +54

      ​@@lindaportuguesinha6065 its where the *case* starts, not the problems. they start living a lie and then it escalates

    • @derkeheath5172
      @derkeheath5172 9 місяців тому +4

      These kids are absolutely broken by their control freak parents and their ruthless desires for wealthy children.

    • @jaroslavoswald7566
      @jaroslavoswald7566 9 місяців тому +84

      ​@@Sputterbugzno. The problems starts when parents are pressing through harsh discipline they kids to become something they are not. Ofcourse I'm not saying that as an excuse for his actions. There is no excuse. But if they would not pressure and discipline him so hard there would not be need for lies and there would not be such a fear for telling the truth.

  • @PotatoFarmer656
    @PotatoFarmer656 9 місяців тому +597

    This is such a similar case to Chandler Halderson, Jennifer Pan, Sef Gonzalez, and Bart Whitaker, people who turned on family just to cover up the shame of not meeting academic expectations. It's so scary to think that they would rather end their families rather than tell them the truth and deal with the fallout. The judge and prosecutor of Halderson's case made excellent points: We all had to walk into uncomfortable situations at some point in our lives, such as talking to an angry boss or an irate parent, but a normal person wouldn't and shouldn't go into extreme lengths to escape the discomfort of dealing with shame.

    • @johnheisey3802
      @johnheisey3802 9 місяців тому +18

      I was just contemplating this exact thing - I wonder if there is any research specifically on this phenomenon - it's so strange given these people have such a massive negative feedback loop of deception and shame that they choose the absolute worst outcome for themselves and loved ones over potential disownment or even just a standard argument - I suppose the situations like these that end more peacefully aren't widely publicized though..

    • @charleyj-b7568
      @charleyj-b7568 9 місяців тому +17

      And isn’t it uncanny that both Jennifer Pan & Menhaz Zaman lived in the same town, Markham.
      Their situations, family expectation & compulsive lying seems to be quite the coincidence.
      Crazy!

    • @bhavikasicka7871
      @bhavikasicka7871 9 місяців тому +29

      Sure, but it seems the large majority of desi parents stifle and oppress their children, forcing careers on them, foreclosing alternative futures for them, and in the case of this Muslim family, preventing them from smoking, drinking, dating, anything they irrationally consider haram. They didn't deserve to die, but their son was also a victim in some sense.

    • @SpongebobsRippedPant
      @SpongebobsRippedPant 9 місяців тому

      Although I agree and feel fof those poor kids. I also think people either turn on those who hurt them, or on themselves by suicide. Its extreme either way.

    • @thedesensitizedsympathizer5307
      @thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@bhavikasicka7871I seriously wish that committing these kind of minor "Haram" wouldn't be punishable by family shame, or anything violent.
      Haram's like murder though, are a different story.

  • @Irfananeh001
    @Irfananeh001 9 місяців тому +57

    I experienced a similar case as well when I was in my final year and couldn't graduate yet because I hadn't finished my final project, It was the only thing left to do for me to graduate but I was really tired mentally when my parents kept asking when I graduate. The question was asked several times a month.
    It's not that the final project was hard, it was the pressure of them to keep asking me the same question when I was trying my best to finish it, they only wanted the result but didn't care much about the process.
    I got so burnt out that I stopped working on my final project. I never told them how I was or the final project progress I had made, I turned to video games to forget everything. This brought time and peace for me, but only for a while.
    Eventually, my time to finish the final project is coming to an end. I had to finish it within 6 months or I would drop out. I still remember that night of being helpless, having no one to talk to or even give me advice on what to do, I couldn't sleep till the sun was about to rise. To be honest, I also felt a bit suicidal I kept thinking what if I disappeared? or what would happen if my parents didn't get to see me anymore? Stuff like that. Then I decided to "Fuck it, I'm gonna call my mother and tell her everything".
    I called her at 4AM, broke down, and cried like a little boy over the phone, explaining everything about how I had been so far, how I was burnt out due to their behavior towards me, and how I felt helpless. It felt like a huge weight had been lifted off my shoulder, all the peace that video games have been giving me so far was nothing compared to finally telling the truth to my mother. Luckily she understood me very well and tried to comfort me the best she could over the phone. The next day I bought a last-minute ticket and went home to talk through everything again with both my parents this time.
    In the end, I managed to finish my final project in time and finally graduated. I hugged my parents so hard and I cried during my graduation ceremony (it was online and at home due to covid) I thanked them for all the support they gave me and I should have been more honest with them instead of keeping everything to myself and lying about it.
    Sorry it got so long lol. I just always relate to cases like this because I went through a similar case and I believe that talking things over is a lot better than keeping to yourself. Find the right people (doesn't have to be your parents), ones that you know will support you and let it all out, you will feel MUCH, MUCH better. Thanks for reading all this lol
    - Random stranger on the internet

    • @oliveryt7168
      @oliveryt7168 8 місяців тому

      😊

    • @xavierjuno4572
      @xavierjuno4572 6 місяців тому +3

      Honestly I can relate, if I hadn't opened up about my anger and frustations back in highschool, I probably would've ended up like Menhaz

    • @tjlnintendo
      @tjlnintendo 4 місяці тому

      @@xavierjuno4572
      I hope you doing good 👍

    • @xavierjuno4572
      @xavierjuno4572 4 місяці тому +2

      @@tjlnintendo not always, but I'll keep trying

    • @Adam_Alarabi
      @Adam_Alarabi 4 місяці тому +1

      It was a similar case for me when failed a year in university, I kept it secret from my family for few months, but then ended up telling them, and surprisingly my father was very understanding and he supported me, same as my mother.
      Now I am doing way better at university, I passed the year I failed in with high grades when I repeated it

  • @nyarden301
    @nyarden301 9 місяців тому +163

    I am the child of immigrants. And I struggled with the weight of expectations, parents who see you both as an extension of themselves and their retirement plan, and I had to deal with all of that plus emotional abuse. I understand his pressure and started feeling so bad for him then I was like WAIT …I went through the same shit and didn’t kill anyone. We can’t help who we are born to. We CAN help how we process it. I can’t help to wonder that if we allowed men the space to process emotions freely without the weight of societal expectations, could we avoid this. Still his fault though. What a creep.

    • @nyarden301
      @nyarden301 9 місяців тому +18

      Also…why the pictures? Why did he want to share this repeatedly? To get caught?

    • @antonioaaronosabel9574
      @antonioaaronosabel9574 4 місяці тому

      🇵🇭 Hi. Yes. Our levels differs. I guess, you can still find other ways to go on even though Not what they want or expect.
      I hope you'd become successful in another way or some small scale business.
      As for me, it's all too late now. I retired early, messed up my good life, lost my mom, lost my life savings, I'm sick and I can't work anymore.
      Please be strong. And always believe in God.

    • @stealthynaxo
      @stealthynaxo 27 днів тому

      ​@@nyarden301 A lot of Killers are boiled down to:
      -Narcissists
      -Attention Seekers

  • @Ezinma88
    @Ezinma88 9 місяців тому +343

    I think part of Menhaz's motive was envy that his sister's life was actually real. Getting into the uni he was rejected from. Building a better relationship with his parents. And, we all know what it's like when the 'prodigal daughter' returns.

    • @carolinebrennan3864
      @carolinebrennan3864 9 місяців тому +14

      She rebelled worse than him? Don't blame the sister for the psycho murderer's actions.

    • @aaykay4060
      @aaykay4060 9 місяців тому +107

      If you read the comment again you’ll see that No one’s blaming the sister. Comprehension is a real thing.

    • @mr_fuji_mintsmr_fuji_mints9873
      @mr_fuji_mintsmr_fuji_mints9873 9 місяців тому

      ​@@aaykay4060it is? I want one

    • @cynda1178
      @cynda1178 8 місяців тому +12

      @@carolinebrennan3864 No one's blaming the sister. Ezin is simply pointing out a motive for her murder. By all accounts, aside from being someone who would expose him (which he turned himself in anyway, so that wasn't a reason to kill her) the fact that he killed her despite her pleas and cries makes envy a real possibility. He was truly a sick and twisted individual.

  • @A.Girl.Has.No.Name.
    @A.Girl.Has.No.Name. 9 місяців тому +622

    I watched the ID Channel's multi-part show about this case, and was absolutely gobsmacked with this kid's actions. He not only murdered his family, he traumatized his online community of friends.

    • @Dosei236
      @Dosei236 9 місяців тому +54

      Yeah, I felt bad for the friend he privately messaged. The friend had to share them again in order to let everyone know it wasn't a joke. Must have been traumatic. Then with his other friend "Do you want pics?" What a scum bag!

    • @EonaLieksCheese
      @EonaLieksCheese 9 місяців тому +52

      @@heehee___ doesn't that make it more important to focus on them, then? they are still alive and they parents are sadly already gone

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 9 місяців тому +31

      ​@heehee___
      Some people are really sensitive to that.
      For instance?
      Mods that work for big corporations have been known to develop PTSD from the images they have to deal with daily.
      In the NSA, it's actually fairly common? They basically get to look at CP, snuff, and extremely graphic murder images all freaking day. That's what entry-level NSA agents get to do.🤮
      (I honestly never thought I'd feel sorry for the people surveilling me, but here we are.)
      (EDIT: I'M AN ACTIVIST. Not a k1ller or any variety of kiddy-fiddler. Just realized how that sounded. 😬
      The US gov doesn't like left-wing activisty people!)

    • @Dosei236
      @Dosei236 9 місяців тому +17

      @@heehee___ Exactly why they aren't my focus. Their suffering has ended. He didn't need to scar other people, who will carry that with them the rest of their lives.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 9 місяців тому +7

      ​@@heehee___
      Yeah, probably so? I mean it takes a bit for most people to get PTSD.
      Brain resilience is variable.
      I edited; the censor robot ate that reply. Oops.

  • @deedebreaux
    @deedebreaux 9 місяців тому +42

    This is why you don't spoil your kids rotten. They feel the world owes them something. This is also why you have to let your kids decide what it is they want to do in life, not what you want. As long as they have a legal realistic plan for taking care of themselves after high school, support them, everyone does not want to be a damn doctor!!!

    • @GillianCranston
      @GillianCranston 6 місяців тому +1

      Exactly. My son leaves for university next year. He is trying to apply for Oxford uni and I have told him I don't care about the prestige as I am worried about the pressure. Let your kids find their own path.

    • @Freestyle80
      @Freestyle80 5 місяців тому

      he literally wanted nothing but to play games all day, this is why you Muricans end up dorpping out of high school and living on benefits while complaining about how unfair the world is to you.

  • @TopCh3d
    @TopCh3d 9 місяців тому +25

    I live just north of Toronto. Heard about this on the radio while driving for weeks but they never released any details, just that a family was murdered and the suspect was most likely another family member. First time I’ve heard real insight into it.

  • @dyja7
    @dyja7 9 місяців тому +915

    I don't understand why someone in a case like this would EVER be up for parole. Lock him up for the rest of his life. He does not belong in society, he is not a human, he said it himself. He's an animal. Four lives gone, and for what? So they don't "suffer the shame" of him being a lying rat? Despicable and sad. May they rest in peace.

    • @clmaoo
      @clmaoo 9 місяців тому +1

      Canadian law is absolutely FUCKED. It’s a complete and utter failure to victims for any real justice.

    • @einienj3281
      @einienj3281 9 місяців тому +94

      If he thought he was such a shame, he could have just ended himself.. but of course, he is a selfish coward.. like there's no shame in being a murderer..? I don't understand his logic. Narcissistic family annihilator.. their image is more important than the lives of their family members..

    • @beckymoffitt7705
      @beckymoffitt7705 9 місяців тому +9

      Totally agree!

    • @aydadae7337
      @aydadae7337 9 місяців тому +66

      It's because it's Canada, they don't lock people up forever even when they commit murder. They work on rehabilitation and stuff, but I agree. There's just some things you can't come back from.

    • @Larjesmac
      @Larjesmac 9 місяців тому +34

      @@aydadae7337I mean technically we don’t, but many many offenders will never actually get parole. Even Paul Bernardo gets parole hearings, but he will never be released.

  • @MusiciansRule07
    @MusiciansRule07 9 місяців тому +739

    I already knew about this case but I wanted to hear how you'd cover it, Adrian. Menhaz is absolutely despicable and I agree with him on one thing: he was and still is a Coward. His family deserved better and had Menhaz just told the truth, even with the discipline he would've faced, his parents would've eventually forgiven him. They forgave and supported his sister, after all. He killed them all because he wanted to. He actually reminds me a lot of Chandler Halderson. Both are lying wastes of oxygen and both should've taken their own lives instead of destroying the lives of the people that loved them most.

    • @cesarincamendozaloyola4407
      @cesarincamendozaloyola4407 9 місяців тому +25

      Exactly, just like Chandler and a few others we know about

    • @NickyBlue99
      @NickyBlue99 9 місяців тому

      ​@@cesarincamendozaloyola4407Grant Amato

    • @VioletJoy
      @VioletJoy 9 місяців тому +45

      They both had mothers who coddled, overindulged, and had low expectations of their sons. Their fathers both had expectations of them, but the mothers excused their sons' behavior and continually rescued them. That's not love. That's very unhealthy parenting.
      All of those actions have consequences. Unfortunately, sometimes it can end very, very badly. It would benefit society to recognize how children are affected by their upbringing in order to prevent some of these negative behaviors from developing.

    • @rustyshackleford7282
      @rustyshackleford7282 9 місяців тому

      Vote stupid get stupid results....

    • @artisthusnatalal3099
      @artisthusnatalal3099 9 місяців тому +1

      I always wonder if someone is pissed of with life why don't they kill themselves instead of killing other people? 🤨

  • @SaintCharbelMiracleworker
    @SaintCharbelMiracleworker 9 місяців тому +8

    His father worked so hard and along with his mother build a new successful life, tot give more opportunities to their children. Menhaz was a spoilt brat who lived a "virtual" life rather than a real one. He could have just come clean but he took the cowards route. RIP to the victims.🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️

  • @LiftingStress
    @LiftingStress 7 місяців тому +32

    He annihilated his entire family, boasted about it, continued to play video games as if nothing happened, and didn't get a life sentence!? If this lunatic can take out his family he'd have no problem killing anyone else. I know Canada has no death penalty, but how many murders does it take to get life without parole? Outrageous injustice!!!

    • @liemmorrell
      @liemmorrell Місяць тому +3

      Unfortunately Canada's judicial system is often extremely lenient compared to the United States. In the early 2000s we had a schizophrenic man murder someone on a greyhound bus and cut off his head. The killer spent a few years in an institution and was let go without any need for regular checkups or anything. It often makes me wonder how many murderers there are walking around.

    • @nekonomicon2983
      @nekonomicon2983 Місяць тому +1

      ​@liemmorrell
      Yeesh, I know that the justice system can be overly cruel, but that's the opposite end of the spectrum.

    • @kazikhalid6197
      @kazikhalid6197 Місяць тому +1

      Canada’s legal system in Joke even compared to 3rd world countries . back in Bangladesh he would’ve gotten the death penalty.

  • @yesipan
    @yesipan 9 місяців тому +591

    Murderers are already awful but it takes a special kind of evil to beat your own family members to death, especially when they're fighting back like his sister did. He had so much time between the murders to sit and think about it and still went through it all. And then to share all of that online...the incredible trauma and possible guilt at not having been able to do anything the users must have felt. I myself am a failed golden child of an immigrant family, but no matter how heavy the pressure gets I could never imagine doing something like this. There's so many cases just like this one though and it's scary to even think about.

    • @HelenaMikas
      @HelenaMikas 9 місяців тому

      A failure in education he scored top marks in murder .Please never say rats are vermin ...

    • @frankcaggiano8282
      @frankcaggiano8282 9 місяців тому +44

      Feel you on the failed golden child front. We'll get there.

    • @cons345
      @cons345 9 місяців тому +6

      Mind sharing your story?

    • @Bunny11344
      @Bunny11344 9 місяців тому +28

      @@cons345 most are just people who failed or didn’t live up to their parents expectations. They instead went about their own path as they should

    • @armymoaengene9181
      @armymoaengene9181 9 місяців тому +50

      I was a gifted child that lost motivation as an adult. My mom always told me it's each generations job to do better than the one before. Because that's why our great grandparents came here, for better lives for the future generations. I'm the first generation to go backwards. I know I disappointed my parents and grandparents. But I'm happy. They're disappointed but happy. So I like to think that if my great grandparents knew that I don't go hungry and lead a happy life they'd still think their sacrifice was worth it. Because at the end of the day, I don't care what my daughter does with her life as long as she's safe, healthy and happy

  • @Mamacat1357
    @Mamacat1357 9 місяців тому +315

    Cats are multi-lingual. They ignore you in all languages. On a more serious note, thank you for your videos.

    • @CoffeehouseCrime
      @CoffeehouseCrime  9 місяців тому +43

      You are right! haha thanks!

    • @flavia8504
      @flavia8504 9 місяців тому +9

      😹Mine..actually..follow..me..around..(my..space..bar..doesn't..work)

    • @Mamacat1357
      @Mamacat1357 9 місяців тому +6

      @@flavia8504 Friends close; enemies closer😺😁

    • @nightwishlady
      @nightwishlady 9 місяців тому

      ​@@flavia8504use the virtual keyboard for the space bar

    • @xxmxn
      @xxmxn 9 місяців тому

      ​@@flavia8504😂😂😂

  • @atomangelo9940
    @atomangelo9940 9 місяців тому +3

    As a Muslim, the most fascinating detail in this case is how verbal he was with his beliefs.
    Wish all terrorists were this honest with themselves.

  • @samiamohamed683
    @samiamohamed683 9 місяців тому +6

    The fact he has two parents, a nice home and all he had to do was finish uni.
    As an immigrant child, I had to contribute to the household while attending uni, yet I managed to graduate and cherish my mother. May God have mercy on those poor souls and may he rot in his grave!

  • @brontel3004
    @brontel3004 9 місяців тому +287

    I live one street away from the crime scene, I occasionally think about it as I drive past everyday. It's still so surreal to think something so horrible happened so close to home.

    • @ballind2741
      @ballind2741 9 місяців тому +9

      Damn

    • @IzzyCarter-kg7nz
      @IzzyCarter-kg7nz 9 місяців тому +2

      Godspeed

    • @johnnylothbrok9231
      @johnnylothbrok9231 9 місяців тому +10

      Does anyone lives there now or is it empty?

    • @swallowedinthesea11
      @swallowedinthesea11 9 місяців тому

      @@johnnylothbrok9231 That house is haunted with the spirits of the family! Watch the true story movie The Grudge.

    • @richmondlau5945
      @richmondlau5945 9 місяців тому

      @@johnnylothbrok9231 it was listed and sold, not sure if anybody lives there now. it was high profile and there are clauses for these things. i recall in the listing some of the carpets were ripped up. found the listing. sold for $981k cad in 2020

  • @dankification
    @dankification 9 місяців тому +2613

    The average discord mod

  • @jodygrulich8695
    @jodygrulich8695 9 місяців тому +12

    It's amazing how dangerous a "double life" is, whatever that may be. There are several murder cases that involve that.

  • @ijj2286
    @ijj2286 9 місяців тому +4

    I had a cousin like this, kept to himself and went to college. At graduation, he disappeared and my aunt and uncle found out he didn't attend the school for the whole 4 years except for one semester as a freshman. He took his own life in a different city about 90 miles from where they live.

    • @CC3193
      @CC3193 8 місяців тому +2

      It's awfully sad. And stories very similar to your cousin's are tragically common right around the world. I'm from Australia and I understand that here, when end-of-high-school / university-entry scores are released to graduating students, this is a time of year when there's an increase in deaths of young people due to suicide. They're unable to live with the pressures and stress of not getting a 100&% perfect score - the one their parents want - to study medicine or law (for example) at the top universities.

  • @annabelle3510
    @annabelle3510 9 місяців тому +172

    We had similar case few days ago in Bosnia and Herzegovina. A guy recorded live on Instagram the beating and murder of his wife, and then a father and his son on another location, for full two hours before the police reacted to calls. He had numerous audience chearing him on to continue hitting his wife - all of their data has been collected and they're going to respond in front of the court under the Bosnian law of "encouraging a person to commit a murder instead of fulfilling the obligation of reporting a crime." I watched the video on a wedding party while my boyfriend's friend was showing it to him, and I was sick to my stomach. The video had been re-recorded by someone and put online again before being finally removed from all sources - she was continually beaten, taunted for full two hours, and then shot in the head. The baby was left on the floor crying, while he left to find those other guys.
    He was a criminal and he had bragged how his "connections" helped him avoid jail.
    I don't know what's worse - what he did, or the fact that so many people enjoyed the live torture and murder of another human being. Makes you think how many sick, hateful people and psychopaths live among us freely and share the same air with us.
    I don't think most people are good. I think most people are sick and evil but they fake normalcy on a daily basis because the system we live in expects it so.

    • @MT-rl3rx
      @MT-rl3rx 9 місяців тому +1

      Gdje se ovo desilo? Monstruozno 😢

    • @Kmojca
      @Kmojca 9 місяців тому

      @@MT-rl3rxGradacac u BiH.

    • @Kmojca
      @Kmojca 9 місяців тому

      So what’s happening with his ‘girlfriend’ (the policewoman)??

    • @mari_000
      @mari_000 9 місяців тому

      Can you tell me what he said hes Motiv were? Did she cheat on him?

    • @thedesensitizedsympathizer5307
      @thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 9 місяців тому

      So do you think that you are sick and violent too, but you must act normal in order to not get arrested.

  • @jo-being-joyh7zh
    @jo-being-joyh7zh 9 місяців тому +90

    How horrible to be in that discourd and knowing that the father and sister were about to meet a gruesome end and not be able to stop him. I can only imagine how helpless they all felt

    • @frankharzer6224
      @frankharzer6224 7 місяців тому +1

      At least they where able to save every shred of evidence he sent them to help get him caught afterwards and make sure he goes to prison.

  • @lclaire1000
    @lclaire1000 9 місяців тому +6

    I’m ready for bizarre, strange and unusual cases from you! Thanks for all you do. You are appreciated

  • @Dethikah
    @Dethikah 6 місяців тому +2

    Wait, wait...... He gruesomely murdered 4 people in cold blood, and gets the possibility of parole?? WHAT?!

  • @lasieste8171
    @lasieste8171 9 місяців тому +344

    This is a horrible story. While inexcusable, I understand where the killer comes from. I myself was so obsessed with not disappointing my family and boyfriend, that I ended up lying for years about my academic failures. I was just not in the right place. I would never kill anybody for that of course, but I can tell you that a simple lie from which you feel you can't escape will drive you insane with time. I ended up depressed, then I gave my life a new direction, after a broken relationship and parents who loved me anyways. I give you all this advice : don't underestimate the impact of a lie. Living a lie is a terrible fate indeed.. You're worth more than that. Peace

    • @Rareknightking
      @Rareknightking 9 місяців тому +31

      Same I had broken down after losing a family member to the point I failed classes and stopped attending college. I never told my dads because I was afraid they’d hate me and would disown me. Then I nearly ended myself but got help and figured out my built up issues. Plus my step dad figured it out and they both were supportive in having me get help.

    • @airget
      @airget 9 місяців тому +27

      That is the tragedy of it, the breaking point was trying to stay in the good graces of his parents, to make them proud, but it was through a lie, because the expectations they wanted were too much for him to burden.
      So rather than live with the fact of seeing them disappointed he chose to take their lives because that become the path of least resistance.
      Sadly I feel in cases like these something could be learned from both sides, like it's ok to have expectations and hopes for your children however when it comes to a point that you are actively causing strife in their life, you have to know where to pull back and just appreciate the fact they are trying.
      if the parents expectations were for their children to try their best and to do what they could to achieve a better life then them, then the expectations wouldn't have been as stressful. However being put on the pedestal to achieve great things and nothing less, can break a lot of people that are not prepared for that type of sacrifice.

    • @lasieste8171
      @lasieste8171 9 місяців тому +10

      @@airget In my case it was my own hybris that was the cause. My parents were supportive and I was supposed to be very smart, but I was also too proud to acknowledge my shortcomings. Worst part is I have a lovely career now, but at the time I was just not following my own dreams. My history being what it is, I was used to lying as a mecanism of survival. It seemed easier. Bending reality to make it as you see fit, or as you think people need it to be to perceive you in a way you can control.
      I was young, stupid and selfish. But we all learn from our mistakes. No preaching here, but it's my faith that saved me. I experienced the burden of lies first hand, and came back from it. I'm still not exempt of sin, but I make progress. I value the worth of mistakes in one's life. Reading the comments and the number of reactions shows me that we all go through parallel experiences. And it's ok. We all can grow up and become better people, and in that endeavor lies the true grace. Listen to yourselves and embrace each grace you are granted.

    • @lasieste8171
      @lasieste8171 9 місяців тому +5

      @@Rareknightking God bless you brother 🙏

    • @somechupacabrawithinternet8866
      @somechupacabrawithinternet8866 9 місяців тому +2

      how is your life now?

  • @wizzardofpaws2420
    @wizzardofpaws2420 9 місяців тому +128

    I remember the big documentary on him. He hated the religion. He believed that prison wouldn't be that bad in Canada. Very sad for everyone involved. One online friend was devastated because Munaz had helped him through all his cancer treatments

    • @HelenaMikas
      @HelenaMikas 9 місяців тому

      Prison will be ideal for such a lazy jerk and I imagine he will have access to internet .Marvellous eh and we work and don't kill . He is ghastly .

    • @honda-akari
      @honda-akari 9 місяців тому

      Well, islam is a cult.

    • @immir6647
      @immir6647 9 місяців тому +3

      And I would be willing to bet money on religion being overbearinging present at home.

    • @messi-mk3cq
      @messi-mk3cq 8 місяців тому

      @@immir6647Typical atheist respons. Yall love to blame religion for everything, but he is just Another icel man who games all day and have nothing better do to with his life. He say it himself, he is atheist and doesn’t belive in hell so he killed his family. No morals whatsower. Stop making up excuses for people like him. It not the first time a gamer has killed his family/other people. There are multipul cases. But u religion hater want to vitctimize him so mad. And kuffar (disbeliver) who killed How parent. Typical!

    • @bomberdawesome
      @bomberdawesome 5 місяців тому

      ​@@immir6647Likely, but he was an adult and had the freedom to decide what he wanted to believe.

  • @obscurity3027
    @obscurity3027 9 місяців тому +5

    Congratulations on your successful channel/UA-cam career, Adrian. I subscribed to you when you had a much smaller following, and I’m so happy to see that number has surpassed 1.5 million, and it continues to grow every day. Keep up the great work, brother!

  • @teeoheneye
    @teeoheneye 9 місяців тому +4

    Oh my blood EFF! I've recently moved backed into my family home watching this with my mum, we live a 40 minute walk from their McCowan area and only now learning about this true crime story through your channel. Mind Blowing 🙏🏾

  • @kfshman
    @kfshman 9 місяців тому +303

    Many families in countries in Asia care a lot about their own image and reputation more than the care of their children. Pressure is horrible and has bad psychological outcomes. I always tell my kids success is doing your best regardless of the outcome. I don't care what the others think of you and will always be there for you. His name in Arabic means the troubled man.

    • @eloramortimer8574
      @eloramortimer8574 9 місяців тому +20

      This is so true. I feel it keenly in my own life

    • @k_j_n1242
      @k_j_n1242 9 місяців тому +31

      How ominous that his name should mean this. I wonder if his parents knew or considered this when naming him 🤔
      You're absolutely right. F what other people think. Encourage your kids to be happy and to work hard at whatever it is they want to do or be in life. It's a short one and it's only once. Best to try and live it happy. Peace ✌🏽
      Ps. No amount of pressure should induce a person to kill. I do believe that you have to have this capacity within you in the first place.

    • @suz7773
      @suz7773 9 місяців тому +4

      Another one of "pressure" is the Alexis Travesio case.

    • @thenotoriousbronze8663
      @thenotoriousbronze8663 9 місяців тому +19

      Not necessarily 100% true (I’m East Asian who grew up there) I personally think it’s better for most kids than what they’re doing to them here in the West. Id much rather my kid worry about not falling behind and finishing his work in time than worrying about their genders and shit. Middle Eastern countries however, I heard are different

    • @blacklivesmatter4918
      @blacklivesmatter4918 9 місяців тому +11

      Well said!!! 👏🏾 I tell my children the same exact thing! 💯 As long as they try their best then it's a win for them! 🥇 Their expectation for that culture is unrealistic in my opinion! 🫤 I often wonder why ur image and or family image is way more important than sharing ur love with ur family and growing up as a strong, deep rooted bond! 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Life is what u make it not working hard to please everyone in ur community because at the end of the day ur family will be the ones their to have ur back not the neighbors next door! 🏠

  • @joanalloghongoua2252
    @joanalloghongoua2252 9 місяців тому +242

    Found this channel by accident and now it's easily in my top 3. The crime reporting is top class.

    • @kennymorelandiii9406
      @kennymorelandiii9406 9 місяців тому +18

      You're in for a treat if you're a true crime fan. I stumbled upon this channel about a year ago and have been completely hooked since!

    • @christinegrillo914
      @christinegrillo914 9 місяців тому

      Same @@kennymorelandiii9406

    • @FaalKoriim
      @FaalKoriim 9 місяців тому +7

      Promise you won't regret coming here, there's so much incredible content!

    • @mistybollinger3312
      @mistybollinger3312 9 місяців тому +7

      If you like true crime then you will love this channel!! Adrian is one of my favorite true crime story tellers! He does stories nobody else has done and he delivers them very well 😊😊 not to mention he's absolutely adorable lol

    • @Devghost
      @Devghost 9 місяців тому +1

      This is my fav true crime channel. Rarely misses all hits!

  • @mayas7209
    @mayas7209 9 місяців тому +1

    This case is so tragic...as always thank you for your hard work in how you cover these cases. I really like how respectfully you approach each case, keep up the awesome work!

  • @myblacktears0921
    @myblacktears0921 9 місяців тому +1

    Love your videos Adrian, so well made and with lots of background stories about the cases. Thank you so much for all that you do with your videos ❤.

  • @nivision
    @nivision 9 місяців тому +379

    You know... I had those parents with the too-high expectations and felt like I would only get love if I lived up to them too. Way better to just burst their bubbles of unrealistic expectations while still in high school and let them adapt and accept that they're just glad you're healthy and hopefully happy with the life you can achieve. Or they don't and you go no contact. I'm no contact, but it's way better than A MURDER SPREE. I let go of that resentment, still love them, just know it's more maintainable this way.

    • @fritzbasset8645
      @fritzbasset8645 9 місяців тому

      Killing everybody will always fix your problems, said no one ever. Nevertheless a lot of people seem to think it's a viable solution.

    • @jaydentoth
      @jaydentoth 9 місяців тому +38

      Yeah exactly this.
      Those who condemn him for his attitude probably doesn't know how it feels like to grow up conditioned to be a perfect being by parents.
      Murder is still not the answer but the parents should have known better too than to have unnecessarily high expectations and pressuring their kids to succeed. I wonder when will parents learn that pressure doesn't help kids succeed, it does quite the opposite.
      I also wonder how he would have turned out if he was born into a normal family. Probably wouldn't have become a murderer....

    • @JohnLee-or1sx
      @JohnLee-or1sx 9 місяців тому +9

      @@jaydentoth there are millions of parents who want the best for their kids and those kids grow up just fine. If there's an issue, its the kid. Because their.minds aren't developed yet they can't grasp anything past immediate gratification.
      Seems like your just using this story to insert your own personal dislike of having parents who wanted you to grow into the best version of yourself.

    • @JohnLee-or1sx
      @JohnLee-or1sx 9 місяців тому +6

      @@jaydentoth also. Pressuring kids to succeed is way more useful than letting them do whatever they want.

    • @dominicschiro9939
      @dominicschiro9939 9 місяців тому +19

      Yes happened to my cousin. This kid perfect SAT scores so smart but literally pressured by his parents. Could have played college football at Notre Dame Wisconsin Ivy League schools with full scholarships. Nope he didn’t want to play any more. So went to Madison he never partied a day in his life. Wrong school to choose. Dropped out after 1st semester disappeared for 2 years because the pressure put on him by my Aunt and Uncle. He obviously didn’t murder but it took them forever to get used to him doing a regular job and life

  • @ateddybear1392
    @ateddybear1392 9 місяців тому +52

    Spare them the disappointment? As if they didn’t feel plenty of disappointment as well as fear as he was murdering them…
    He would’ve been better off just offing himself if he felt so bad about himself, as opposed to killing his entire family

    • @Bettinasisrg
      @Bettinasisrg 9 місяців тому

      Well psychologists say people that threaten suicide have a 50/50 chance of committing homicide instead. Actual depressed people will not threaten suicide but just do it, potentially homicidal people will threaten suicide while simultaneously contemplating homicide. They're the narcissistic sociopaths who are not suicidal like a good person who is truly hurting but a controlling selfish person that wants a certain outcome in their favour.

  • @not_decaf
    @not_decaf 7 місяців тому +1

    Im amazed this channel has 1.8 mil subs now.
    Long time watcher, keep up the great work dude. Some channels r crass with details or really play up the violence of a killer almost glorifying them. Im glad the goodness of this crime channel shines through.

  • @frogery
    @frogery 7 місяців тому +2

    he is entirely accountable for his actions and there was clearly something wrong with his brain, but we can't pretend that strict parenting and overwhelming expectations don't play a part in cases like this.

  • @TMBpk
    @TMBpk 9 місяців тому +36

    The weird thing about this is an eerily similar case happened in the very same town back in 2009. Jennifer Pan lied about attending the university of Toronto pharmacy program. Ended up asking her boyfriend to kill the family when graduation time came.
    Both happened in Markham. That's so weird

    • @AltaMirage
      @AltaMirage 6 місяців тому +1

      Both aspirational immigrant families with imported strict cultural norms which jarred with the more liberal laid back Canadian culture they failed to absorb or adapt to.

  • @jubjub7101
    @jubjub7101 9 місяців тому +62

    Being too caring of a parent and not allowing them to learn responsibility, like cleaning up by yourself and doing chores, can be very dangerous. Especially for someone who has mental or developmental issues. Compounded by sheltering and the child being reclusive, its a recipe for disaster. Watching many of these videos, many cases involved reclusive kids on computers, claiming successes they didn't earn, to only fall apart when the lies catch up to them.

    • @codylarkhart261
      @codylarkhart261 9 місяців тому

      Now we see the cliff that is Social media and how Kids, Teenager's and young men and women are constantly bombarded and in many ways pressured to be as successful as those supposed Influencers and Celebrities when in reality it is all fake and most of the time just a fantasy image that these people are trying to push on the masses. Kids and teenagers need to be taught that things aren't always as it seems and whats most important is being themselves. With all the madness of trends and fake glitter, 9 times out of ten we are seeing people act out a cry for help. Thats why the youth of Today act like they have no care in the world anymore, They have been shunned caused by this very system that takes peoples attention away from what's most important in their lives.

  • @camibvaz
    @camibvaz 9 місяців тому +3

    you can only put so much pressure on someone before they break....

  • @DuffMan.
    @DuffMan. 9 місяців тому

    Love this channel. You always find unique stuff

  • @Raphanne
    @Raphanne 9 місяців тому +181

    While mothers who do absolutely everything for their sons think they're doing them a favor, they don't realize that they're doing them a huge disservice. You have to teach your children how to be independant, how to take accountability for their actions, how to fix their own mistakes, you cannot do everything in their place, or you create babies who are going to have a hard time facing the world and adjusting to society. I come from such a family. My mom did absolutely everything for my brother, and she still does to this day even when he is 36, still at home. She even removes the crust off of his bread and the skin from his cheese. She has to clean or unplug the toilet when he clogs it because he doesn't want to have to deal with it. She created a man child. She complains about it, but she still enables this behaviour. Now, I know he is an adult who needs to take responsibility for his actions, but she cannot be surprised when she babied him to the extreme all his life. There is a fine line between loving your children + doing things for them when necessary, and creating irresponsible cowardly babies who cannot fend for themselves. Now my brother cannot adjust to society.
    He does not work and he is depressed. I wish he could find peace of mind realizing that he can achieve things by putting his mind to it, being resilient, honest and by not giving up. Growing up, he was the golden child because he was the eldest son. He was never told no, was never punished for his bad actions and was never given reasonable boundaries. I used to envy and resent him because I was never given such attention as the second daughter. Truth be told, I now feel sorry for him that he was spoiled rotten. I notice that people who are raised that way are ticking time bombs. I worry for him because he can have violent tendencies. If I ever have a son, I'll learn from my parents' mistakes.

    • @jamie6387
      @jamie6387 9 місяців тому +28

      Definitely comes down to accountability for ones actions. I agree with you, this guy blamed all his problems on his parents when they did everything to support him. He never even tried to do anything to better himself because his mother was a safety net for his actions. He continued to fail, got upset at the world and took his anger out on others when he had nobody to blame but himself. Lazy sack of shit. We have a big issue in America with accountability for ones actions, things are just getting worse and worse too.

    • @SunshinePip
      @SunshinePip 9 місяців тому +21

      Some parents do this though because they don't want their children to ever leave them and some use it to say "Look at everything I ever did for you and now you're not going to take care of me?". It happened in my family and created a really toxic situation.

    • @Raphanne
      @Raphanne 9 місяців тому +12

      I agree with your two comments. He is responsible for his own actions and doesn't deserve to be ever let out into civilized society in my opinion. Obviously, his family didn't deserve to be brutally murdered and they did their best to their knowledge. At the same time, I can´t help but think that they fostered unaccountability by doing everything for him, all the while setting really high long term expectations. It's like expecting your kid to run à marathon when you don´t even let him do à single step by himself. Some kids in that environment still manage fine if they have strong moral value but it can be a recipe for disaster as well if your kid is obviously not well-adjusted (ie: living his life exclusively online).

    • @deewrig54
      @deewrig54 9 місяців тому +7

      I’m 69 y.o., and my 64 y.o. brother was the youngest and only boy of three. My mom ruined him by doing everything for him including raising his two kids. He hasn’t worked in decades, and she left her $700,000 home to him.

    • @arghyaprotimhalder5592
      @arghyaprotimhalder5592 9 місяців тому +3

      he was freaking privilaged i would be thrown out if i asked so much

  • @Rainbow1000Rainbow
    @Rainbow1000Rainbow 9 місяців тому +40

    I was in the same class as the sister in primary school and my grandma would briefly greet their grandmother during her morning walk everyday. It was truly a shock to the community.

  • @carolinabarajas8760
    @carolinabarajas8760 9 місяців тому

    Thank you for all your hard work. I always listen to you on my way to work and going back home. I may not always comment on your videos because I’m driving! but I do always make sure I like them as much as possible❤️

  • @greymark420
    @greymark420 9 місяців тому +3

    The difference between encouraging your children to succeed and trying to dominate their lives.

  • @LettucePrey001
    @LettucePrey001 9 місяців тому +47

    I knew a guy that did something similar to this (not the murder part, but the year-long lying about going to school part). He would drive out there every morning and just sit in his car doing god knows what, while his parents thought he was going to school full-time.
    He too was extremely psychotic and deranged. Idk what became of him.

    • @artisthusnatalal3099
      @artisthusnatalal3099 9 місяців тому +9

      I also know one. Till today I think her mother thinks her Child studied at the university but seems she never attended the classes. She lied to many people but I have doubts about her

    • @nhmooytis7058
      @nhmooytis7058 9 місяців тому +8

      One of my roommates in college circa 1973 did the same. Didn’t just claim she was going to class but also that she was a research assistant to a prof. I forget how she got busted, but her parents showed up one day and took her home.

  • @Neiji_SF
    @Neiji_SF 9 місяців тому +20

    It’s crazy to know that someone you played games with for years and talked to on Discord daily would end up murdering his family. Still can’t believe it.

  • @mistis249
    @mistis249 9 місяців тому

    Thank you Adrian for the great stories! Love from Wisconsin USA😊

  • @cindysmith6612
    @cindysmith6612 9 місяців тому

    I love your work! Thank You!

  • @jborden18
    @jborden18 9 місяців тому +35

    This kid mustn't EVER be paroled! He not only planned these gut-wrenching actions (knowing full well just how wrong and horrific they were) and follow thru with them, but tormented a community, with what he considered, the ideal ending. He'll get his in the end 😢😪

  • @treepotato9273
    @treepotato9273 9 місяців тому +83

    A lot of people in gaming communities are neurodivergent and a lot of neurodivergent people make excellent detectives, it's pretty amazing what they can do when they pool their talents.
    Also want to add, thank you for not blaming the game or video games in general. So many people will because it's an easy scapegoat for a side of human nature we often try to find excuses for.

    • @CC3193
      @CC3193 8 місяців тому +2

      I have a school-aged child with autism, and they don't miss ANYTHING, even if they seem a million miles away in thought.

    • @adenkyramud5005
      @adenkyramud5005 7 місяців тому +2

      In the words of 4chan: weaponized autism at its best. Yeah a lot of us are neurodivergent and oftentimes that comes with a sharp increase in pattern recognition compared to neurotypical people. I believe that pattern recognition plus different ways to process information (kind of a "if you've never been inside the box you can only think outside the box" type of thing) makes a part of us go "oh, puzzle solving time" and we end up spending 12 hours straight trying to figure something out. Now, one person alone doing this might not be too useful, but take a bunch of us and let us coordinate our efforts and you get the scariest most efficient puzzle solving algorithm you can imagine... wether that puzzle is an active crime scenario or an escape room or even just some easter egg in a video game doesn't matter, we're just happy that brain go brrrr

    • @stevexie2705
      @stevexie2705 7 місяців тому

      I think there is a chance that Menhaz himself may be neurodivergent.

  • @yesidoskate
    @yesidoskate 7 місяців тому +2

    at 22:10 i was like, is he really about to dive into a nord vpn ad for a second lol

  • @JB-bm1to
    @JB-bm1to 6 місяців тому +1

    Also good on the discord community for making sure this vile creature was put away. I hope feels like they betrayed him and he has NOBODY.

  • @einienj3281
    @einienj3281 9 місяців тому +74

    Imagine "trolling" aka bragging online with murdering your entire family... I can't.. unbelievable.
    Thank You ❤☕

    • @sarahmelody9366
      @sarahmelody9366 9 місяців тому +5

      None of us can.... God, I hope none anyway.

    • @einienj3281
      @einienj3281 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@sarahmelody9366Me too, but..I have a feeling that some, who watch these crime videos, can.. like LISK, obsessively watching/reading/saving everything about his crimes.. some definitely watch these as "what not to do"..

    • @frankfestus114
      @frankfestus114 9 місяців тому

      People like you do worst

    • @bosunbill9059
      @bosunbill9059 9 місяців тому +2

      I don't think this is a troll, this is more like a sick confession, to tell everyone your crime knowing it will collapse regardless.

    • @einienj3281
      @einienj3281 9 місяців тому

      @@bosunbill9059 He would have gotten caught by calling the cops himself.. he wanted fame.. narcissistic family annihilator. Their own image is more important than the lives of their family members.. he pretended to be depressed to get a smaller sentence. That's just my opinion though.

  • @arifhossain9751
    @arifhossain9751 9 місяців тому +23

    Yeah... many folks in Bangladesh have no idea about this, cos it barely hit the news cycle. The political situation is usually what takes precedence. Thanks for covering this.

  • @Ole_Premium
    @Ole_Premium 9 місяців тому +3

    Mom and dad seem like such wonderful parents. Mom was so beautiful, inside and out. ❤️

  • @ShadedOne
    @ShadedOne 8 місяців тому +3

    This why the term touch grass was invented. Also have friends at least one in the nearest location. Being social and having friends online is not a replacement for having them in actual physical space.

  • @intelerfan
    @intelerfan 9 місяців тому +8

    That family was dysfunctional. Very unfortunate.

  • @charmquark7514
    @charmquark7514 9 місяців тому +57

    Your pronounciation of german has improved a lot, you can really tell that you put in effort even outside of the sponsorships!

  • @kimmcevilly1117
    @kimmcevilly1117 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for your splendid skills in story telling. This one was particularly gruesome, though!

  • @spacedust95
    @spacedust95 9 місяців тому +7

    I have been a fan of this channel since 2020 but I never imagined the Coffee house crime to visit my country. Thanks Adrian for explaining our country’s vibrant culture so delicately with your fans. Thanks a bunch!😁

  • @k2peak360
    @k2peak360 9 місяців тому +63

    If anyone's interested in hearing this story more in depth, Peacock has a 2 part documentary called Perfect World about this story. They interview everyone involved from his relatives, the people that were playing the game with him and trying to find out where he was, and they police who investigated the case. It's really good.

    • @Alex_Rosefur
      @Alex_Rosefur 9 місяців тому +1

      I'll check it out 🖖

    • @LiveFreeOrDie2A
      @LiveFreeOrDie2A 9 місяців тому +5

      So they drag it out with dramatic fluff.. no thanks

    • @millierosse1558
      @millierosse1558 9 місяців тому

      @@LiveFreeOrDie2A first hand accounts of it happening is hardly dramatic fluff you plum

    • @millierosse1558
      @millierosse1558 9 місяців тому

      Thanks for the recommendation , just finishing the second part. Really enjoyed it thank you, any others you’d suggest

  • @SCREAMILLUSION
    @SCREAMILLUSION 9 місяців тому +33

    I enjoy how you tell these stories but as someone who knows someone who was directly involved and endured his vile antics as he did what he did, this kinda made me have to finally put down true crime videos as a medium I watch and finally leave it behind. Thank you for re-telling it in a respectful manner.

  • @Yenmoney
    @Yenmoney 9 місяців тому +1

    Im from Scarborough, love true crime and somehow never heard about this case. Thanks for covering it. Poor family. Glad he got a real sentance unlike all the murderers now who are out on parole with 40 prior convictions.

  • @doomer_to_boomer2402
    @doomer_to_boomer2402 9 місяців тому

    I like the idea of the shorts. There's plenty of interesting true crimes that simply aren't covered enough or have enough background to make full video documentaries from, and it's something I'd definitely find interesting to see

  • @porterdavis1612
    @porterdavis1612 9 місяців тому +26

    This man killed 4 people and still has a hope to see the light of day again in his life. Insane.

  • @SoundOfOceanBlue
    @SoundOfOceanBlue 9 місяців тому +58

    As migrants myself, my parents especially my father put pressure on me and my brother to do the same. I think a lot of migrant families especially those that come from hardship always put pressure on their kids like this. It’s only because the parents want their kids to be in a better position than they were themselves. Unfortunately things don’t always work out and in this case the situation became deadly. RIP beautiful souls

    • @azazello1784
      @azazello1784 9 місяців тому +14

      Maybe the parents should try to advance their own careers instead of expecting children to succeed. And what is the deal with engineering? There are many other professions that pay well.

    • @Roasty420
      @Roasty420 9 місяців тому +6

      Some engineers and programmers tend to make $260K right out of the gate.
      I know people in Colorado who make $250K and only from their job out of college, which usually doesn’t happen to most.
      Also, parents do to their kids, as growing up, it was too late for them to do anything great, as they had to either drop out of school and work on the family farm or they were too poor to even go to school.
      It sucks, but life ain’t fair.

    • @denisehagwood4542
      @denisehagwood4542 9 місяців тому +3

      That's fine but they take it too far. It seems like these abusive parents just want to live vicariously through their kids, who have no obligation to dedicate their life to financial advancement.

    • @Roasty420
      @Roasty420 9 місяців тому

      @@denisehagwood4542 That is true, my father wasn't bad when I was a teen in high school.
      I will say, he would be upset with me for skipping school and sleeping in class. Thankfully I graduated and as of now I'm saving up for college and focused on getting a bachelor's in computer science.

  • @kleinstyle69
    @kleinstyle69 9 місяців тому

    I knew about the case beforehand, but the way you elaborated on the story makes the case so much more interesting than it first appeared.

  • @Carolynsweetheart
    @Carolynsweetheart 9 місяців тому

    Impeccable Adrian !!! Bravo !!! ❤

  • @M00nshiine
    @M00nshiine 9 місяців тому +79

    As a Torontonian, very well done. Well researched, valid images and great delivery. Well done Adrian

    • @kairam5142
      @kairam5142 9 місяців тому +3

      As an Argentina i agree

    • @wg3951
      @wg3951 9 місяців тому +1

      Agreed, only thing is we refer to our high school year as grade 9, 10, 11 and 12. We don’t use the terms used in the states.

  • @audrey4150
    @audrey4150 9 місяців тому +114

    As a Canadian, no parole for at least 40 years is huge.

  • @princezzl5697
    @princezzl5697 9 місяців тому

    viewing in Toronto 🇨🇦👐🏼 great coverage of the story!

  • @claudiaweise7185
    @claudiaweise7185 9 місяців тому +2

    Love the channel. Could we get a couple of stories of victims that got away or were saved just in time?

  • @rebekahannah
    @rebekahannah 9 місяців тому +18

    Yes! Was headed to bed but now I'm staying up just to get my coffeehouse fix 😍 Cheers Adrian.

    • @n3v3r2l8
      @n3v3r2l8 9 місяців тому +1

      That's awesome. You must be on the other side of the world 🌍. I'm just getting up...🥱

    • @CoffeehouseCrime
      @CoffeehouseCrime  9 місяців тому +5

      Sleep well afterward! 🌙

    • @Riceordie
      @Riceordie 9 місяців тому +1

      @@CoffeehouseCrimeim in Asia right now but from Europe. About to go sleep so thanks. Also they are Hindu and not Muslim!

    • @sarahmelody9366
      @sarahmelody9366 9 місяців тому

      @@Riceordie Thank you lol I was sitting here thinking I needed to google if Hindus did the third eye too. I didn't think they did. However, I find myself to be mistaken quite often, so yeah.

    • @TheD3monicangel
      @TheD3monicangel 9 місяців тому

      @@n3v3r2l83 am here in Australia and I decided to watch this now 😮‍💨🤣

  • @andrew285
    @andrew285 9 місяців тому +6

    How can his mother wanted him to be successful in life and independent while at the same time she was cooking his meals, cleaning his place, driving him everywhere, paying his bills etc??

    • @gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203
      @gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203 9 місяців тому

      This has nothing to do with success, dummy

    • @bambarina
      @bambarina 9 місяців тому +2

      Probably because in her culture, she expected his future wife to do exactly the same for him. His only responsibility in life would be to go to school/work and "succeed". Not the healthiest attitude, for sure. At best you smother the child's hopes and personality... at worst, you could create a selfish monster.

  • @pantheonmythology
    @pantheonmythology 9 місяців тому

    Awesome channel. Subscribed. Looking forward to my coffee on the house now 🤞

  • @ZenzeraBellaAnna
    @ZenzeraBellaAnna 2 місяці тому

    I could listen to your voice all day. Your narrating is seriously the best.

  • @StevexOwnz
    @StevexOwnz 9 місяців тому +31

    I really feel bad for the family who never seen this coming.

  • @LarnrothSDergan
    @LarnrothSDergan 9 місяців тому +51

    No one could expect any less from your everyday mod on Discord.

    • @onlytaru
      @onlytaru 9 місяців тому +4

      typical discord mod behavior, or phpbb forum / IRC moderator behavior from the days before discord

    • @LarnrothSDergan
      @LarnrothSDergan 9 місяців тому

      @@onlytaru pretty much.

    • @ryantarlond9987
      @ryantarlond9987 9 місяців тому +3

      As a mod of several discords I will say I love my family very much and couldn't bear even the thought of doing them harm

    • @FlamingBasketballClub
      @FlamingBasketballClub 9 місяців тому +3

      Blaming Discord mods for this psychopath's decision isn't helping.
      🌚🌝

    • @onlytaru
      @onlytaru 9 місяців тому

      its a joke because of how stereotypical internet mods are on any platform. the joke exists for a reason, hence stereotypes being founded in truth, spend your time on the internet from 1995 until about the early 2010s, you might get it then.@@FlamingBasketballClub

  • @EverydayInspiration2023
    @EverydayInspiration2023 9 місяців тому

    I missed this channel for sometime, but caught it back ;)

  • @2ndgearthruhell
    @2ndgearthruhell 9 місяців тому

    Ahhhh yes Adrian and his sweet savory voice in my ear talking about murder and coffee....my work shifts are awesome thanks to you coffeehouse crime

  • @rasmie8858
    @rasmie8858 9 місяців тому +172

    As someone with overbearing parents with expectations, I can empathize with the guy. Not defending his actions obviously, but heavy pressure from your parents can definitely send you down a spiral. I had a stretch in my life that I'm not exactly proud of because of it. Fortunately for me I've never lied to my parents and once I had a deep talk with them about my future and how I'm not at all interested in becoming a chemist, they were willing to let me be independent.
    P.S. York University isn't exactly a "prestigious" school btw. It's pretty much a failsafe for people who couldn't get into University of Toronto😅

    • @whiskeyvixen9221
      @whiskeyvixen9221 9 місяців тому +23

      As a York U Alumni, I wholeheartedly agree 😅

    • @VioletJoy
      @VioletJoy 9 місяців тому +46

      Oftentimes, the parents' behavior is totally ignored. Not only was he under intense pressure, but he was extremely coddled by his mother. Adrian described his mother as loving, but that's not love. That's unhealthy parenting and is a recipe for disaster.
      Having two completely opposite parents can have damaging effects. Having both high and low expectations simultaneously can really warp a child's thinking.
      Sorry to hear about the pressure you were under as a child. It sounds like you've been able to work through that. Good for you.

    • @bambarina
      @bambarina 9 місяців тому +2

      I was gonna say, about York U! 😂

    • @skycloud4802
      @skycloud4802 9 місяців тому +29

      My empathy stops at murder. No killing is justified at all. His sister had the same pressure as him, and she moved away for a while to clear her head. He could have done the exact same. To escape the household would escape the pressure.

    • @SaintCharbelMiracleworker
      @SaintCharbelMiracleworker 9 місяців тому

      He was a kidult. Blaming hard working, caring parents for your actions as a grown adult is the cowards way.@@skycloud4802

  • @younoticedme
    @younoticedme 9 місяців тому +34

    It appears imo that Asian children are under lots of pressure in terms of academics, marriage, providing for several families. To feel he has to do this rather than be truthful is concerning. No excuse to take a life though.
    By the way Discord is shut down at the moment due to hacking.

    • @jr7845
      @jr7845 9 місяців тому +7

      All children are under enormous pressure. Fact

    • @pronoydutta614
      @pronoydutta614 9 місяців тому +13

      ​@@jr7845yes, though it's not always done in good faith for Asian families.
      It's contingent on being perceived as successful and the kids are often seen as property. It's not always about unconditional love.

    • @eloramortimer8574
      @eloramortimer8574 9 місяців тому +7

      Your not wrong about the pressure. Can't speak for all asains but definitely south Asians. I feel myself in a similar struggle under the weight of my parents pressure. Sometimes it doesn't feel like they love me.. only of how I can be perceived in the community and always uploading their fucking reputation

    • @eloramortimer8574
      @eloramortimer8574 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@pronoydutta614wow you summed it up so well

    • @ladytron1724
      @ladytron1724 9 місяців тому

      @@pronoydutta614agree

  • @JJ-zr1wf
    @JJ-zr1wf 9 місяців тому +2

    Started following the channel when Algorithm suggested me Coffeehouse's (then new) Elliot Rodgers case.
    It's amazing to see how far the channel has come ever since ❤

  • @dmmd8304
    @dmmd8304 3 місяці тому +1

    imagine being a father and disciplining your daughter by locking her out of the house.
    every honest work is truly heroic, commendable and respectable, but imagine being a f-ing cab driver and pretending to decide for your children what career is good and which isn't.
    that father was a monster.

  • @j2sk
    @j2sk 9 місяців тому +17

    That downward spiral of depression from overbearing pressure can really mess up your mind. I've been in that position before where I lied about failing multiple subjects, keeping it up and felt the pressure of being the oldest son. On top of that, my skill of conversing with other ppl was subpar, my family dotes on me just like his family and just like him, I was an avid mmo player back in hs. Almost eeriely similar in fact.
    While the thought had cross my mind before, it didnt go through. Over time, the thought of it slowly directed towards me, but that also didnt go through. I'm just glad I came clean about it, while things didn't go smooth or well after that, I just kept working on myself. Just a heads up, you cant rush these things, working to better yourself (excluding financial/material aspect) takes years. My family has better relationship now, but that journey WILL be rough

    • @yzettasmith4194
      @yzettasmith4194 9 місяців тому +3

      I'm glad - and proud of you - for doing the right thing.

    • @ShadedOne
      @ShadedOne 8 місяців тому

      Thank you for sharing this it made me happy and I'm proud of you.

  • @COEFFXIV
    @COEFFXIV 9 місяців тому +13

    That last excerpt of your statement before you wrapped the episode up was beyond gutwrenching. It made me reflect on how much I appreciate my family even more for their sacrifices they've made for me to be where I am.
    Cherish and appreciate those that are around you. Love on those that believe in you.

  • @jrobertsoneff
    @jrobertsoneff 9 місяців тому +1

    Like Freud said ,when u are ready to put so much on a pedestal ,like his parents respect ,there is also an urge to destroy it.

  • @jaydahome-teillarddeyry6200
    @jaydahome-teillarddeyry6200 9 місяців тому +1

    The pressure from my dad to do well in school led me to have a nervous breakdown and eating disorder when I was in university. My professors noticed and insisted I seek help before my parents did.

  • @feelsofsteel5210
    @feelsofsteel5210 9 місяців тому +70

    Hey Adrian, these videos are high effort with excellent quality. Hope you've been doing well
    Though seeing your schedule of uploads every 3-4 days, I hope you can get some rest if you could as well.

    • @michaelturner5050
      @michaelturner5050 9 місяців тому

      Damn bro your nose is so far up there it’s stained brown.

  • @davejones9469
    @davejones9469 9 місяців тому +9

    I'm in Toronto and I don't remember this, but I swear crime is covered up by the media here.
    There have been several shootings and killings in my own neighborhood and it didn't even make the LOCAL newspaper.

    • @EarGal
      @EarGal 9 місяців тому +2

      I don't remember this one either and I'm in the Toronto area as well.

    • @davejones9469
      @davejones9469 9 місяців тому

      @@EarGal I asked my dad about it and he has a vague memory of it, so at most, it wasn't in the news long enough for it to stick. Imo, at least.

    • @phoenixrising4995
      @phoenixrising4995 9 місяців тому

      The only thing I remember in Toronto is the incel rebellion or something with a van. That's about it, oh and the economic cough of 2020.

    • @davejones9469
      @davejones9469 9 місяців тому

      @@phoenixrising4995 There was also the G20, which was one of the first big black bloc events. They didn't even call themselves antifa back then...and aside from the innocent, non protesters that were rounded up, I wish they used that sonic cannon.

  • @lukehorning3404
    @lukehorning3404 9 місяців тому +1

    What a shame they seemed like a good family and it’s scary how many young people are not living in the real world Thanks for another great job on the video