Thanks for watching guys, please share your thoughts. And if you want another take on this, check out TRUE CRIME Loser - ua-cam.com/channels/e4SSwboaAh-Fqj-E0H5ucg.html Also, here’s a good documentary on the same case - ua-cam.com/video/nJGvoP5LWe8/v-deo.html
This isn’t the case of Michael Dunn, this is the bravery and heroism of Rhonda Rouer. Sacrificing her life and relationship with the person she loved so that the victims could get justice. That takes a level of emotional strength most people would struggle to comprehend.
@@ArnoldSchwarz_enigger crying and balling her eyes out and struggling to speak in court sounded eager to you? Does your brain have ridges or is it just smooth jelly all over?
The thing that pisses me off is his complete lack of sympathy for his fiancé. I knew it was just a given that he was never going to care about the teenager he killed but he doesn’t even seem to worry about the person he supposedly loves more than anything else. He never seems to be looking out for anyone but himself, even when he’s ruining his fiancé’s life
This guy is so egotistical he can’t even pretend to regret murdering a kid because he is too involved in describing how heroically and perfectly he loaded his weapon
It breaks my heart to hear how traumatized Rhonda was. She's pure innocence throughout that whole investigation and wanted to tell the truth. She truly carried the guilt Michael couldn't feel. I hope that if Rhonda sees this, to not carry blame and that she helped Jordan's family by telling the truth. I send her and jordans family and friends comfort..
Why so much focus on the innocence of the white woman dating a racist man and not the 4 black kids who were just hanging out as friends and got back from the mall?
@@zoejackson79 it’s so obvious lmao. He calls the music “thug music”, he says these people are violent / angry, and she doesn’t seem to be surprised or shocked at all. Only ever responding “I know” At some point Rhonda decided his racism was something she could tolerate
That evening Dunn drove away and had a relatively pleasant evening. Those boys drove away to a parking lot and watched their friend gasping for air. Anger can consume your whole life literally, and everybody who’s unfortunate to be in the vicinity while you “lose your mind” will, in some way or form, never be the same.
That’s heartbreaking when you think about how all this went down. Dunn let his own hatred and racism completely cloud his view of reality. It’s really scary to know there are people like this everywhere 😭
Exactly why i do intensive therapy. I come back to these videos often to remind myself how small my “grievances” are in the grand scheme of things. My lack of emotional control is MY problem and MY problem only. Yes it’s a chemical imbalance but it’s MY chemical imbalance. I fight daily to not affect those around me with my personal problems. Yes i have to work a little harder at life to have any sense of normalcy yes it’s exhausting yes im tired but i love people and life more than anything. So I’ll do this til i die. With God , i can handle it just fine. He didn’t make me this way for no reason. 🤷🏽♀️ i like to think God blessed me with passion (intense emotions) 😅
I mean in this context you're definitely right. He's definitely in the wrong. However in a case of "ACTUAL Self defense" I think you can be the victor and the victim.
@@kobzelfn9588 he feels like he won because he killed a black kid and got away with his own life when it wasn’t in danger to begin with, and feels like a victim because he’s in police custody and not with his puppy
Poor Rhonda. I'm so happy she stood up there and told the truth. At the beginning, you can hear he struggle to talk to Michael. She doesn't want to validate his stance as the victim. You can tell she feels guilty for even suggesting to get wine at the gas station. None of this was her fault. It's refreshing to see a loved one stand against the perpetrator for the sake of justice.
@@curtebner8134she didn’t get off easy because she didn’t do anything. All she did was suggest they pull up to a gas station to buy some wine. She had no way of knowing what was about to happen
depends if the other person showed a weapon imo but in this case the teens clearly didn’t try and cause trouble they were just playing loud music that pissed this guy off
Shocking but we see that a lot in court, showing no remorse and the family of the murderer angry because the shooter was such a good boy while the murderer is laughing at the family of the victims.
After 10 years, I continue to come back to this case. It amazes me how someone can try and lie their way out of murder. This poor excuse for a human being simply felt disrespected by a 17 year old kid and decided to show his heroic life saving dominance and shoot at a MOVING car full of harmless teens. RIP to Jordan Davis, he would be close to 30 now and probably be living a great life of his own but it was unfortunately cut short by this disgusting pig who missed out on a “fairly expensive bed & breakfast” I hope you’re resting easy Jordan, if only you knew how much sweet justice was served for you on this case ❤ Fly high J.D 🕊️ 🙏🏼
I know what he meant by "animals". He was scared that when he went to prison, it would get out that he murdered a black teenager, and that they would fuck him up. He viewed them as animals. He hates 'that' music. He chose to get into a confrontation with a group of black teenagers over it. It doesn't take a genius to see what happened here. All I wish for America is that people would point their hatred towards the actual racist fucks like this, instead of screaming about cops simply doing their jobs.
@@toddharig8142 he never said Marxism was tied to the USSR. He stated they are using the same tactics used by the Bolsheviks The founders of BLM have stated they are open Marxists
@@eleo_b And also remember that he was 100% sure it was a gun... or at least a stick but probably a shotgun... I am so glad the guy sucks at lying so he got a life sentence.
17 years old? How horrible. They were just kids playing music. If you dont like the music, drive away. The boy would be alive. He killed a child because they were playing music too loud.
@@hdmanredeemed 17 years old is still legally a minor, and thus a child, in the US. either way the term "kid" is being used relatively here; 17 is incredibly young when you know what its like to live double or triple that. you're still basically a teen in your early 20s so
@@hdmanredeemed Let me give you my perspective as someone older clearly older than you. I am only 25. When I hear she's under 20, I already think "kid". What you know at 17 versus what you know later in life is night and day. He was a child. He literally never even made it to adulthood. Never got to know who he would become, grow and change.
I feel like since most of them were brought in not as a suspect, they didn’t want to appear guilty or suspicious. So they chose to lie their asses off as a “witness” instead of getting an attorney. Requiring an attorney would just paint them as having something to hide
@@christinanie6129 yeah it seems like that logically but remember anything you say can be held against you-therefore anything you don't say can't be held against you
Also, he was so frightened that he took his stupid dog for a walk. Yeah, that is what a frightened man does. Run around with his dog. He loves his puppy... This man left the scene of a major crime (with shooting) and went to walk his doggy and order pizza, have some wine and get some sleep. The investigators were up all night and he got a good nights sleep. (S***ing bricks in his sleep?)
What gets me is that there were so many other options. Go into the store with your fiancée, park in a different location, turn your own radio on, anything but what this guy did
Did you hear him? He said being in a room alone is better than being with those animals He calls these people animals. What does he believe he is? The good guy? He believes killing kids makes him a victor and being told to f-off males him the victim. This guy is one in a million. What a self-entitled monster. He is SO guilty. Big man with a big gun.
If she'd known how it would turn out she would have kept her piehole shut about wanting wine. Edit - I am catching some flack for victim shaming. Hardly - she could not have known how this situation would shake out. She no reason whatsoever to blame herself for anything. The sole responsibility sits on the shoulders of her spouse.
As a lawyer, I want to offer the following for the purposes of entertainment or education (but not legal advice): self defense is just that. A defense. It is amazing how many people think it is a literal get out of jail free card. Acting in self-defense does not mean a prosecutor cannot charge you. It means that a jury is allowed to listen to the facts presented and choose between convicting you, in this case of homicide, or in not convicting you of that offense. The reason that is important in regards to this video is that the man in question clearly did not understand how it works, and is very arrogant in his misunderstanding. Even if we credit him with not knowing he had hit anyone, discharging a firearm in a public space is a crime in basically every U.S. jurisdiction. If you discharge a firearm in public and get called down to the police station so they can ask you some questions, bring a lawyer. Even if you believe you were acting in self-defense and that the cops will see it that way, bring a lawyer. Do something wrong and you're afraid you'll look guilty if you ask for a lawyer or bring a lawyer with you? Well guess what, it doesn't matter because the prosecution is not allowed to address it. So bring one and don't be featured in a JCS vid.
Those poor poor kids man, I bet as they sped off they were so scared. It's heart breaking to think of them just having a nice night together end with one dead...
Those poor parents. Losing a child? Man... Rhonda and Dunn just left. They had things to do, you see. She is supposed to be all innocent, but leaving to walk the dog, have a rum and coke, have a good night's sleep THEN say "we need to go home". She is not honest, in my opinion. A lot of things were so "off". Like the way her voice goes from sounding very mousy to very normal. I get her wanting to help, but she didn't. She knew a lot more than she says.
@@FauxGemini Hes a POS that thought he could do whatever he wanted. He thinks hes the victim. Funny that he was surprised that he was being charged with murder. Like what were you expecting a gold fucking medal? 48:10
To be fair, if he actually was in real danger, I'd understand, but... he's just a person trying to use self-defence as a reason for shooting kids he believed were thugs for... playing the music too loud. People like these give self-defence such a bad name.
“So after I valiantly used my sharpshooter skills despite having no gun marksmanship experience , I graciously defended myself against those evil unarmed teenagers saying mean things to me. Then I ordered pizza. Can I go now?”
"Yep, go on home and walk your little doggy and mousy girlfriend. Don't give those devastated people another thought. " He really believed he could just lie and say they had a weapon and get off. No problem. THEN this loser leaves the scene. I am astounded that the "love of his life" let him just leave those kids, bleeding and screaming, and go to the hotel. no.
I love how good the cop was at sugar coating the severity in the beginning in order to avoid scaring him into shutting down. “Where we kind of get to start a little wondering” AKA “when we realized you were guilty as hell was when”
Seriously. When the car is leaving, like... Stop shooting. You're not a cop. You're not performing a citizen's arrest. Nobody is shooting at you. Don't recklessly and vengefully empty your clip. Ugh if these people had to wield a knife instead, you'd see much smarter fighters. One of the reasons I'm annoyed by guns in the hands of amateurs.
Usually in British drama shows, footage is pretty raw and music is kept to a minimum. The silence adds a lot of tension, and the focus is entirely on the topic. Love this style of presentation.
@@rachaelsetzer3917 in otger vids he makes a few jones but they are actually funny like when he compared a woman sitting down to a sea lion looking over a rock😂
Rewatching this and looking at the comments is genuinely absurd. The amount of mental gymnastics and people saying "Well both parties were at fault!" No the hell they were not. Loud music and MAYBE being rude does not equate to being shot and killed whatsoever. The way people try to justify literal murder is insane and if the races in this case were reversed people will not for a second question that it was nothing more than a unnecessary murder
That woman, his ex-fiance, is one hell of a strong woman. Not too many people would be able to do what she did for the sake of having justice on a stranger's behalf.
Thats whats wrong with this world, there was only 1 choice for her, and everyone faced with the decision of telling the truth or a lie, THE CORRECT CHOICE: ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH.
@@SubCultureVulture702 Sure, that's a lovely sentiment, but it's not reality. Rhonda was able to tell the truth here bc she's a nurse & not dependent on the defendant. I've tried cases where people feel unable to tell the truth against a defendant either bc they depend on him for money or it will jeopardize their life or the lives of others in their family
@@Sofia-re4ix everyone is entitled to their feelings. If I did something horrible, I wouldn't be mad that my loved ones turned me over. If you do, then I unsertand it, it's difficult to accept responsability for your actions
@@user-mp3pf2ir2p Thats not how marrige works tho. Until death. Take the oath seriously. That being said this guy was a goober so idk. I feel bad for the simple people who are naturally confused by being around the very problematic A.A culture. No excuse to kill but still, the mind knows this is unnatural.
People like this shouldn’t get the death sentence they need life in prison so they can suffer. Pedophiles should be shot in the head right after the guilty verdict is read
@@simmonewatts693 most defs white children aren't children to some white people either and Hispanic children are not children to some black, white, and other Hispanic people and Asian children are not children to some white, black, Hispanic and other Asian people and......ah well you get the idea sometimes it seems like the only thing humans have been able to consistently work together for about as long as written history and probably before also is hating each other
R Daysh That’s a good point. To be fair, she was reliant on traveling back to their home with their dog and such. Calling the police while in the same hotel or such may put her/the dog in danger when she can call later that day. I know there are plenty of other options, but I still think that is a rough spot to be
@@rerooar I thought they said they called from the house, and I imagine it's the most difficult situation to be in, it can take a bit of time to actually comprehend a situation sometimes. Tbh she seems quite timid, I feel like he treated her like shit. I was pleasantly surprised when I saw her standing against him.
@@connnnnnor Well, she sounds exactly the same when questioned at the police station and on the phone with Mike Dunn. That is her voice. I just feel salty about this whole case that I would probably find something to be catty about. This shouldn't have happened. Sorry....
You can really hear the dawning realization that not only did her fiance kill a boy, it was in cold blood and unprovoked in her voice and the shock that washes over her as the interrogators relay what he'd said to them, the obvious lies and the ways his behavior betrayed the cruel thing he'd done and how he thought that was a-ok and justified.
Seeing as how thug is a doctrinal word used to describe black people existing, I would say this guy wasn't acting like a thug at all. In fact, those who use that word to refer to PoC are usually found to have ties to white nationalism.
She took a dangerous criminal off the streets, her fiance... That man shot those kids for simply insulting him, it was only a matter of time before he took another life.
What scares the hell out of me is all of the co-workers I've been around over the years who use the exact same language and think the same way as this guy. It has nothing to do with feeling threatened. It has everything to do with hatred towards anyone whom they view as unlike themselves. And then the imagine threats that don't actually exist to justify that hatred retroactively. What makes it worse is this idealization of a gun as their means to enforce that hatred on the world if they find themselves in what they think is the right situation to use it. So many of them talk about their guns and how much they trained to use them in situations like this if they ever felt like they were being confronted. They fantasize about how skilled they are with it. They talked endlessly about modifying their guns and spending all this money on them.
being what could be referred to as a gun expert, i totally get where you're coming from. the degree of fetishization one tends to have towards their weapons always lines up pretty perfectly with how much they want to use them. certain contexts renders that pretty moot, like hunters, competitive shooters and merc types have a tangible motivation to obsess over high end custom kit(and the people who make their living selling to them). but this guy only owns and carries a gun because he actively wants to use it and his type is frighteningly common.
Luckily, 99% of those kinds of people you described are never in a position to actually use their guns to protect themselves because they don't actually carry them. It's just a macho thing to them, like how "outdoorsman" think they know how to survive in the wilderness because they go on a weekend camping trip in their RV twice a year lol
"What makes it worse is this idealization of a gun as their means to enforce that hatred on the world if they find themselves in what they think is the right situation to use it." and the PERFECT summarisation award goes to...
Jordan Davis' mom left her 30-year career as a flight attendant and ran for congress becoming Representative McBeth in 2019. Since then, she has sought bipartisan solutions to end gun violence, uplift small business and economy, protect and serve veterans, and lower the cost of health care and prescription drugs.
Rhonda’s humanity is incredible. The truth causes her so much pain, but she suffers through it because she knows it’s the right thing to do. I hope she finds peace.
I know!! Poor woman, her whole life turned upside down because of that monster and then having to get up in court and testify against the man she loved because she knew that he was a murderer must have been so difficult. Her testimony no doubt is what solidified his conviction as he was shown by the person closest to him to be a liar. Thank goodness for her and that she actually had empathy.
She’s had a lucky escape, she seems like a sweet and mild woman, but who knows what would’ve happened if she upset him during a fight. She could’ve been next.
@@bravo1IsixI it's not about "snitching" it's an internal battle she is fighting. She is fighting herself as she knows she needs to tell the truth because that's what the victims deserve and trying to protect her fiance. I think what she did was remarkable as you can tell this was a major battle she was fighting in her mind. I just hope she eventually moves on and finds somebody that will treat her like the lady she deserves to be treated like.
The kid driving is a hero. That move was insanely well-thought and under a lot of pressure. It’s so brilliant and honestly I wouldn’t be able to think of it or do it. Rhonda was brave for taking the stand. She told the truth, a simple thing for sure, but the statement against the person she loved most for what he did… it’s inspiring. The kid who died was an absolutely tragic loss. No reason other than Dunn’s pathetic ego.
I remember this shooting. I was relieved when he was convicted. I never saw the interrogation or anything about the fiancée. I see he's even more horrible than he seemed back then.
The million-dollar question is why you remember THIS particular shooting out of the tens of thousands of shootings in the US every year. Someone in America got shot while I was writing this comment, and maybe they were killed. There are around 50 homicides per day in the US. But you chose this specific shooting to remember and care about. Gee, I wonder why..
@@JakeKoenigare you trying to say black people have some kind of special privilege and aren’t oppressed, and mainstream media makes white people look evil? To me it seems like you’re just saying you don’t care about the victim bc he’s black, and think that people ONLY care about the victim because he’s black. Unlike you, not everyone is unhealthily obsessed with race
I think I get what your are saying. The boys were not saints in this case. Stereotypes are there for a reason. This time they were unlucky and provoced and threatened a nutcase that could not stay calm. @@JakeKoenig
@@adamthompson9785 No, we should set an example and say that we will NOT take anyones life, we will be the better people. No one has the right to take a life, certainly not the government, which is basically a corporate mafia. If you can show me data that shows that the death penalty reduces crime then go ahead.
If I had some dudes threaten to kill me and came at me I'd feel close to no remorse as well. Dudes guilty as sin but remorse is based also on experiences. Non remorse doesnt mean guilt. *edit yeah just saw the 27 minute mark. Dudes a git.
@@Dunington He was informed that the guy didn't have a weapon, fact that he already knew, that's the reason he's showing no remorse. Thinking he was "going to be attacked" is his delusion he's trying to sell, he went to provoke a situation where he could have the chance of '"teaching those thugs a lesson' and don't forget the context that this happened after Trayvon Martin got killed and the guy who killed him is free.
@@wgjung1 yup, my response made sense in my head. I didnt express it well enough. To me he was just fed up with kids showing no respect. When the kid said to turn up the radio Dunn snapped. He showed the same lack of respect but thought himself better. That to me is why no remorse. Hopefully that was better worded ;)
@@Dunington It's reasonable thinking if you are going to get attack by 4 guys you have the right to defend yourself but this was not the case from the start. The proof of that is the guy who said: "I heard loud music, I didn't like it, I left", meaning if you have the option of leaving then you're not under threat . That tells you the guy went to look for this outcome and even in the case of self defense the law says 'reasonable action' meaning if the guys are fleeing you don't have the right to keep shooting at them because they are not longer a threat to you, only psycho like Dunn might think that's self defense. Last thing: check Dunn's comments about his life in prison, that gives you a good portrait of what kind of guy is this...individual.
One of the most important things I was told during training was, "Gun on, Ego off." It has served me well and actually made me a calmer and more understanding person. I guess nobody told Michael that though...
Why do I feel sorry for him and wished he was judged free? Am I just naive and felt for his crying? Or is it because he is white and the kids were black? Or both?
"I didn't know I was being charged with murder... That sucks." His lack of empathy for the kid he just killed is stunning. All he cares about is whether he can bond out.
Well some people lack human emotion and empathy who is sad but you can’t do anything about that as some people think different ways and have beliefs that regular humans don’t and won’t understand
I imagine he lacked the same empathy for his wives and girlfriends he brought from other countries to abuse. So glad his wife testified against him. kysdc.com/3360013/neighbors-say-michael-dunn-abused-wives-forced-them-into-swingers-lifestyle/
I'm not sure really. If I accidentally fly killed someone I probably at first would be worried about spending rest of my life inn prison too. See. I cant do anything g about the guy I accidently killed. But my life is still here. So first few days in custody I probably would be thinking more about myself than anyone else incl. Victim. That is, if it was genuine accident. If I acted hot headed and as result so.eone dies, I'd at first probably would be asking to lock me up for life. I assume.e it's just easier mentally to get punishment, easier to cope with horrible thing I just did... kind of, closure for myself... not sure if I could live knowing I just killed someone..
it's a control thing. he had every intention of being a dick to those kids when he pulled in next to them. the idea of having power over a situation is intoxicating to them.
Before you respond like a lunatic, what I'm about to say is not a defense for murdering someone. Why cant people not blast music 20x louder than it needs to be? Why is it so important for everyone within 300ft of you in a public space to hear the music you're playing? You're choosing to be a jerk by doing that, and I shouldn't have to be forced to hear your garbage music when I'm trying to sleep, or fill up my gas tank.
This channel is fascinating to me. I was raised in Singapore & South Korea, the mere idea that you could own guns and just shoot at kids whenever you feel annoyed is absolutely insane.
Quotes from this dude: "They were thugs", "They're violent", "I'm the victim". Also this dude: *Drives drunk, stops at gas station to buy more booze, starts a verbal altercation with teenagers and then commits murder* Everything this man assumed about his victims was actually projection.
@@short600 Yep, classic white man labelling black teens as "violent thugs" and calling himself the victim. This dude is disgusting. They were just kids.
@@short600 In this case, as well as in the Michael Drejka case, it all starts with this class of people who think that they are entitled to break the law. in the Michael Drejka case, it was the selfish woman who parked illegally (in a handicapped spot), and in this case, the thugs blasting music in close proximity of others trying to enjoy their own lives, but cannot, due to these people who have NO place in civilized society. And, when others try to defend themselves, or try to ask the miscreants to stop breaking the law (i.e. illegal parking, illegal noise violation), they are the ones who end up in prison. Society in these here United States of America, has become unbearable over time, due to this unfortunate evolution of society into one where one particular class of people makes life miserable for others
Talk about being a thug. This monster shot a child for no good reason. In his mind, he was killing "black men thugs" not "little boy thugs". If you look up cowardly thugs in Webster's, there will be his picture and a summary of sorry thug Mike.
That's impressive detective and forensic work. All of the facts connected to the door being shut the entire time, and the angle of the bullet entries. Incredible.
I’m trying to fathom what business it was of his in the first place to tell someone to turn down the music in their own space. His entitlement and bias is evident. The fact that before the incident he described the music as “thug music” to Rhonda says everything. He actually believed he had a right to dominate them and then punish them when they didn’t comply the way he wanted. Sickening. He just assumed that 3 young men in a car playing music were thugs, were criminals and were a threat to his life. His vile prejudices were his downfall.
I mean he called black people animals in the jail call he's clearly racist. She even said that they wouldn't find what was going on okay so she knew he meant black people
you realize that "gangsta rap" is a real genre of music, and a significant amount of rap music has lyrics that glorify crime, right? so i am not sure how many negative assumptions you can really make about a person for describing music that often glorifies crime as "thug" music. people of all races who are not into that type of music may consider it "thug" music, so you seem to be falling for the common error pushed by mainstream media to see any white person interacting with a black person in a negative way as obviously due to racism, when racism is not really as prevalent as they want you to think. it is probably more likely that a drunk, crabby old man felt threatened when a bunch of punks insulted him and acted aggressively towards him for asking them to turn the radio down and he did something stupid and shot at them. the media is so desperate for examples of racism that they will try to turn any incident involving white and black people into an example of it, you should be wary of this.
I'm sure he never played loud, modern-at-the-time music with his friends as a teenager... and he even calls them kids! Just smile and wave. Maybe buy them some sour gummy worms. If you must be a jerk, blast your own music louder. This guy is unbelievable.
and it's not just the quality of the picture; the person behind it is taking some legit beautiful angles on some of the footage - that is an aspiring artist that found a way to pay for their "hobby" lol well done, whoever you are
The integrity of that woman will forever amaze me. Bless her heart. The camera pinning on who I assume are the victim's family while the defendant graphically discribes the reimagined moment of the shooting breaks my heart. The contrast between the faces of these people witnessing the testimony and the tone of him just coldly reenacting his vividly callous decision couldn't be sharper. Whatever the defence tried to do with that manner of presentation only helped to solidify how absent any remorse in that man is. But as horrid as the case was, it sure wasn't a tough investigation. There are countless of complicated, long lasting and even unsolved cases out there, it's truly releaving to see one so clear and simple, complicated only by the suspect's extraordinary believes about the outcome. It's near comical how wrong he was to assume he'll be justified as long as he says so. Tragic nontheless. May the family and friends be consoled in getting justice and always have whatever they need for support in their grief.
It is often those with no real culpability who blame themselves, while many who are guilty have a hundred excuses for why their bad behavior was everyone else’s fault.
I really hope she got help. It clear wasn't her fault. She seemed like a decent person just trapped in a bad situation with someone she loved. I'm glad she actually told the truth and didn't make up lies to get herself in trouble.
Notice in the first conversation they were talking on the phone, ge completely cuts her off when she's telling him about a book his mom was sending to her. To talk about being a victim. POS.
It is wild. It may also be that he has acted aggressively in the past but this may have been his first time using violence. We’ll never know unfortunately.
Let this be a lesson to all. Mind your own business. It's not anyone's responsibility to worry about how loud someone's music is. These were kids, kids do things like that. You can't shoot someone just because your angry. This guy is dispicable. My condolences to the young man's family that perished.
Rhonda not lying for her husband is honestly really nice to see. she didn’t seem to lie or downplay the situation ever to save her fiancé from getting a harsher sentence. even when she talks to him on the phone she doesn’t just give in to what he wants to hear. that’s really... like... you don’t see that often.
It feels a lot like their relationship was abusive. The way she describes that he was already angry and she didn't want to ask any questions over the next 24 hours really says she has been walking on egg shells. This event gave her the space to be on her own after he was arrested and finally realise her situation. It's a shame that someone had to be murdered for her to get out of that situation.
@@matthewbrooks1556 Yep. I couldn't help but feel that plenty of cops have told a similar story in similar situations and got paid leave before going back to work. At least this guy didn't get away with it.
✨There’s probably about five things that coulda gotten done differently last night✨ ✍🏽 mhmm There ya go, petty patrol, I fixed it for you since 2 words that were left out really bothered so many of you. I hope you sleep better tonight 🤣 and I hope you learn to take a joke for what it is and not be so pressed 😘
This man is actually proud that he lit up a vehicle full of teenagers. No regret or trauma, and complete detachment from reality. Adds little descriptors like “quick as a flash” and “fluid motion” like he thinks he is some kind of badass.
Yeah its fucked. Everybody think for yourselves and ditch stereotypes. Also keep to yourself. You never know what delusional people with a gun could do. This was just fucked.
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Also, here’s a good documentary on the same case - ua-cam.com/video/nJGvoP5LWe8/v-deo.html
You need to do better on your Description. You act if EVERYONE knows about this person. Who is Michael Dunn?
Thank you for the new video, JCS
Thanks for the new video! Wanted to let you know the link to the documentary isn't working. Just wanted u to know ! Keep up the amazing work !
Thanks Jim - you spoil us this month!
Another great narration job by Kizzume!
Btw - it’s pronounced “Bre-vard” like “yard”.
“I hate thug music”
*commits murder in a parking lot*
Aint that funny 🤔
“Thug” = Trumptrash code/dogwhistle for the n-word.
It wasn’t a hate of the music; it was much deeper than that.
Like rain on your wedding day.
When you hate a genre so bad you kill someone
Do I need to get a lawyer?
Yeah bro, like 45 minutes ago..........
Thank christ his dumbass didn't
😂Ain’t that the truth😂😂😂🐨🇦🇺
Like 20 hours before this interview
try the evening before
It surprises me how many people hear their rights about not having to talk and can get a lawyer, nah fam I'm good.
This isn’t the case of Michael Dunn, this is the bravery and heroism of Rhonda Rouer. Sacrificing her life and relationship with the person she loved so that the victims could get justice. That takes a level of emotional strength most people would struggle to comprehend.
She sacrificed her *life?* Shit, I had no idea she had been killed *as well!* Shee-it.
@@TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels sacrificed her life and relationship with the person she loved. Can you not comprehend basic English?
@@benprint7615 it’s UA-cam so no
@@ArnoldSchwarz_enigger crying and balling her eyes out and struggling to speak in court sounded eager to you? Does your brain have ridges or is it just smooth jelly all over?
@@benprint7615 she relived the horrific incident, go back to your video games child
The thing that pisses me off is his complete lack of sympathy for his fiancé. I knew it was just a given that he was never going to care about the teenager he killed but he doesn’t even seem to worry about the person he supposedly loves more than anything else. He never seems to be looking out for anyone but himself, even when he’s ruining his fiancé’s life
He has Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
It's a sociopath/anti social personality thing.
@@carabiner7999And narcissism
Racism 🤝Sexism
He probably didn't think of his fiance as anything other than a trophy, on the same level as his pet dog.
He doesn’t care about anyone much seemingly. RIP to the poor kid this man killed for no reason ❤️
“I hate “thug” music, so to prove my point I shot an unarmed minor in a parking lot”
Good defense my guy.
"Black kid play the shooty bang music, I had to defend myself."
Rap song mentions guns
I hate this thug music
Cocks gun
Michael dunn hates thug music michael dunn also acts like a thug
@@VanJR. The irony 🤣🤣
Almost like it’s not the “thug” music that he hates.
This guy is so egotistical he can’t even pretend to regret murdering a kid because he is too involved in describing how heroically and perfectly he loaded his weapon
yea kind of made it sound he would have been workplace shooter later, yet just went off earlier
The way he speaks, his vocal pattern reminds me of onision. I think narcissists/egotistical crazy people all talk like that
Without any military training too! But he has friends in the military. What a cool guy😤
What about the one-liner he invented specifically for the courtroom lolololol "youre not gonna kill me, bitch!"
Absolute lame ass lmao
"It was a fluid motion, both handed, I felt like John Wick."
It breaks my heart to hear how traumatized Rhonda was. She's pure innocence throughout that whole investigation and wanted to tell the truth. She truly carried the guilt Michael couldn't feel. I hope that if Rhonda sees this, to not carry blame and that she helped Jordan's family by telling the truth. I send her and jordans family and friends comfort..
Why so much focus on the innocence of the white woman dating a racist man and not the 4 black kids who were just hanging out as friends and got back from the mall?
@@diamondpelel6291 because she didnt know he was racist. She IS brave for taking the stand
@@zoejackson79 it’s so obvious lmao. He calls the music “thug music”, he says these people are violent / angry, and she doesn’t seem to be surprised or shocked at all. Only ever responding “I know”
At some point Rhonda decided his racism was something she could tolerate
@@diamondpelel6291 i noticed that too. But NOOO. A bunch of kids get shot at but the real victim has to be the white woman 😒
@@inquisitionagent9052 “pure innocence” fuck outta here lmao
That evening Dunn drove away and had a relatively pleasant evening. Those boys drove away to a parking lot and watched their friend gasping for air. Anger can consume your whole life literally, and everybody who’s unfortunate to be in the vicinity while you “lose your mind” will, in some way or form, never be the same.
That’s heartbreaking when you think about how all this went down. Dunn let his own hatred and racism completely cloud his view of reality. It’s really scary to know there are people like this everywhere 😭
Role reversal from the usual scenario
@@anon2427 do your research on your grand daddy
@@boethomaszzbill3733 blk young men kïll more whites every 10 years than the entire amount of blks kïlled by the klan since the end of the civil war.
Exactly why i do intensive therapy. I come back to these videos often to remind myself how small my “grievances” are in the grand scheme of things. My lack of emotional control is MY problem and MY problem only. Yes it’s a chemical imbalance but it’s MY chemical imbalance. I fight daily to not affect those around me with my personal problems. Yes i have to work a little harder at life to have any sense of normalcy yes it’s exhausting yes im tired but i love people and life more than anything. So I’ll do this til i die. With God , i can handle it just fine. He didn’t make me this way for no reason. 🤷🏽♀️ i like to think God blessed me with passion (intense emotions) 😅
The hidden story is how lucky that lady got for not marrying Dunn.
literally dodged a bullet lmao
She could've divorced and gotten his entire estate while behind bars, that would've been a golden ending to this guys life
First Seal DawnOfArmageddon “I didn’t want to aggravate him” after he just shot a guy. Yeah real stand up husband
Well put.
Look how scared she is. Pretty sure he made her life hell. Hope now she is living a free and happy life away from that bully.
“I’m the victor and the victim”
- A narcisist.
he victor part is so disgusting
he feels literally triumphant but also wants to feel like he was just wronged
I mean in this context you're definitely right. He's definitely in the wrong. However in a case of "ACTUAL Self defense" I think you can be the victor and the victim.
@@goavs7438 I think he used the word “Victor” to mean the opposite of “victim”
But idk I could be wrong here.
@@kobzelfn9588 he feels like he won because he killed a black kid and got away with his own life when it wasn’t in danger to begin with, and feels like a victim because he’s in police custody and not with his puppy
100%. What the fuck was he even a victory of? Such an unnecessary act of racist bullshit.
Poor Rhonda. I'm so happy she stood up there and told the truth. At the beginning, you can hear he struggle to talk to Michael. She doesn't want to validate his stance as the victim. You can tell she feels guilty for even suggesting to get wine at the gas station. None of this was her fault. It's refreshing to see a loved one stand against the perpetrator for the sake of justice.
Yes , but how bout the poor kid whom was straight murdered, his family grieving etc ! She got off easy
I completely agree and never meant to diminish the tragedy that boy and his family and friends had to endure! @@curtebner8134
@@curtebner8134she didn’t get off easy because she didn’t do anything. All she did was suggest they pull up to a gas station to buy some wine. She had no way of knowing what was about to happen
She def deserves to find a good guy
This is one those dudes who carries a gun looking for situations to use it.
There’s another video about this case with an interview from his neighbor…he said the same exact thing
Also it's further proof multiculturalism is a failure.
“I hate that thug music”
*immediately commits a drive by shooting over a verbal argument*
Yeah, I was thinking that. He's somewhat lacking in self-irony. I wonder if he wielded his weapon gangsta style?
its just his culture lmao
lol, that was thug behavior. Dude is a fucking nutcase.
And even worse is he chose to park right on the side of the truck with the loud music.
@@treecooper8557 Typical boomer. Gotta control everything.
It's hard to claim self defense when they're driving away from you.
Not really, the driver in control of the car is separated from the mentality of the shooter completely.
depends if the other person showed a weapon imo but in this case the teens clearly didn’t try and cause trouble they were just playing loud music that pissed this guy off
@Russian Bot #568984 how the hell was they going kill him? They DIDN'T have a weapon!
@@linuskarlsson4411 not a threat.he could have just moved his car to another location without even making eye contact.
@@linuskarlsson4411 there were never a threat, they were playing music. Even in a normal person's mind, they're just being assholes.
The most shocking thing about this is that this man has no remorse whatsoever for the innocent child whose life he took for no reason.
Shocking but we see that a lot in court, showing no remorse and the family of the murderer angry because the shooter was such a good boy while the murderer is laughing at the family of the victims.
Seriously…none! 😢
He said he went and threw up.
Child?
@@ronbrandt3641and he would never lie right
After 10 years, I continue to come back to this case. It amazes me how someone can try and lie their way out of murder. This poor excuse for a human being simply felt disrespected by a 17 year old kid and decided to show his heroic life saving dominance and shoot at a MOVING car full of harmless teens. RIP to Jordan Davis, he would be close to 30 now and probably be living a great life of his own but it was unfortunately cut short by this disgusting pig who missed out on a “fairly expensive bed & breakfast” I hope you’re resting easy Jordan, if only you knew how much sweet justice was served for you on this case ❤ Fly high J.D 🕊️ 🙏🏼
This comment has tears in my eyes 😭❤️🙏🏽
Yep its sad.
Harmless teens?B.S.
@@markhall3833Nice try, lol
@@markhall3833they had no weapons and were in a car. What were they gonna do? Stare at him?
This guy doesn't want to be locked up with the "animals." He still doesn't realize he is one.
Biff Tannen, Esq. how can you tell someone to stop commenting in a comment section 😂
@@SusanVictoria shhhh, thinking makes his head hurt
Vegetable, mineral or animal...and guess which one we are.
I know what he meant by "animals". He was scared that when he went to prison, it would get out that he murdered a black teenager, and that they would fuck him up. He viewed them as animals. He hates 'that' music. He chose to get into a confrontation with a group of black teenagers over it. It doesn't take a genius to see what happened here. All I wish for America is that people would point their hatred towards the actual racist fucks like this, instead of screaming about cops simply doing their jobs.
@@toddharig8142 he never said Marxism was tied to the USSR. He stated they are using the same tactics used by the Bolsheviks
The founders of BLM have stated they are open Marxists
Guys, try to understand, he missed on a fairly expensive bed and breakfast.
And it’s not easy to have to hear music you do not like.
@@eleo_b And also remember that he was 100% sure it was a gun... or at least a stick but probably a shotgun...
I am so glad the guy sucks at lying so he got a life sentence.
Maybe they were a bit much.
And that “thug music” is discussing! Right?
“He loves that baby”
The way he described them as “kids” and eventually is ok with murdering them is wild.
They describe the mobs of basketball americans murdering in swarms and mobbing gas stations as kids too.
Right he was actually referring to their intellect
Whites don't really care about what they say.
@@bitty_beastly47what the fuck is a “basketball American”?
@@bitty_beastly47 dumbest fucking comment ive ever seen
17 years old? How horrible. They were just kids playing music. If you dont like the music, drive away. The boy would be alive. He killed a child because they were playing music too loud.
@@hdmanredeemed 17 years old is still legally a minor, and thus a child, in the US. either way the term "kid" is being used relatively here; 17 is incredibly young when you know what its like to live double or triple that. you're still basically a teen in your early 20s so
@@hdmanredeemed Let me give you my perspective as someone older clearly older than you. I am only 25. When I hear she's under 20, I already think "kid". What you know at 17 versus what you know later in life is night and day. He was a child. He literally never even made it to adulthood. Never got to know who he would become, grow and change.
"I didn't know I was getting charged with attempted murder... That sucks"
WHAT KINDA REACTION IS THAT
A person without remorse or real grasp of his situation is what
not from a normal person, that's for sure
The kind that suggests he was at a bar with his buddies who were cheering him on and hoping he finished whatever he set out to do.
timestamp 47:56
@@HerbalistGuybrush goodlook
What these videos have taught me: Never talk to the police without an attorney and life is extremely stress free when you don’t kill people.
Don't shoot at a stranger's car
I feel like since most of them were brought in not as a suspect, they didn’t want to appear guilty or suspicious. So they chose to lie their asses off as a “witness” instead of getting an attorney. Requiring an attorney would just paint them as having something to hide
Fr. Even if you're innocent. Always lawyer up
@@christinanie6129 yeah it seems like that logically but remember anything you say can be held against you-therefore anything you don't say can't be held against you
i feel like ive seen this comment before on one of these videos.
He’s so traumatized but speaks of the event likes he’s describing the errands he ran that day.
Also, he was so frightened that he took his stupid dog for a walk.
Yeah, that is what a frightened man does. Run around with his dog. He loves his puppy...
This man left the scene of a major crime (with shooting) and went to walk his doggy and order pizza, have some wine and get some sleep. The investigators were up all night and he got a good nights sleep. (S***ing bricks in his sleep?)
What gets me is that there were so many other options. Go into the store with your fiancée, park in a different location, turn your own radio on, anything but what this guy did
dont kill people is a big one
Or just mind your business. No reason to start bitchin at people in a parking lot when they are simply minding their own business
He was so scared he let that tiny little quiet woman walk into the store by herself, exposed, while he sat safely in his vehicle.
Literally one of the witnesses said he parked someplace else because he didn't want to deal with the music.
Did you hear him? He said being in a room alone is better than being with those animals
He calls these people animals. What does he believe he is? The good guy?
He believes killing kids makes him a victor and being told to f-off males him the victim.
This guy is one in a million. What a self-entitled monster. He is SO guilty. Big man with a big gun.
That poor, honest woman is probably racked with guilt for wanting to stop for wine. Rough.
If she'd known how it would turn out she would have kept her piehole shut about wanting wine.
Edit - I am catching some flack for victim shaming. Hardly - she could not have known how this situation would shake out. She no reason whatsoever to blame herself for anything.
The sole responsibility sits on the shoulders of her spouse.
@@jamallabarge2665 No shit
Jamal Labarge um, not her fault Jamal
@@jamallabarge2665 woah, calm down jamal, dont pull out the 9! haha
@@lab1678 Ain't possible to anticipate some things..... so don't stress over it.
Imagine remembering your wedding day every year as the day your dad killed a guy for playing loud music.
💀💀💀😭😭😭
Thanks Dad!
“Well that sucks”
was it his kid's wedding? i skipped over that i guess i thought it was a friend
@@GottSegneDich That reminds me of Randy from South Park, matter of fact this whole story does.
As a lawyer, I want to offer the following for the purposes of entertainment or education (but not legal advice): self defense is just that. A defense. It is amazing how many people think it is a literal get out of jail free card. Acting in self-defense does not mean a prosecutor cannot charge you. It means that a jury is allowed to listen to the facts presented and choose between convicting you, in this case of homicide, or in not convicting you of that offense. The reason that is important in regards to this video is that the man in question clearly did not understand how it works, and is very arrogant in his misunderstanding.
Even if we credit him with not knowing he had hit anyone, discharging a firearm in a public space is a crime in basically every U.S. jurisdiction. If you discharge a firearm in public and get called down to the police station so they can ask you some questions, bring a lawyer. Even if you believe you were acting in self-defense and that the cops will see it that way, bring a lawyer. Do something wrong and you're afraid you'll look guilty if you ask for a lawyer or bring a lawyer with you? Well guess what, it doesn't matter because the prosecution is not allowed to address it. So bring one and don't be featured in a JCS vid.
Remember when that piece of shit prosecutor brought up Rittenhouse remaining silent and the judge had to admonish him?
Those poor poor kids man, I bet as they sped off they were so scared. It's heart breaking to think of them just having a nice night together end with one dead...
Those poor parents. Losing a child? Man... Rhonda and Dunn just left. They had things to do, you see.
She is supposed to be all innocent, but leaving to walk the dog, have a rum and coke, have a good night's sleep THEN say "we need to go home". She is not honest, in my opinion. A lot of things were so "off". Like the way her voice goes from sounding very mousy to very normal. I get her wanting to help, but she didn't. She knew a lot more than she says.
This guy's whole defense is literally "So anyway i started blasting."
😆😆😆
Lmao
When you're a grown ass man with a gun and these random unarmed high schoolers are apparently just really terrifying for some reason. Like... what...
@@FauxGemini Hes a POS that thought he could do whatever he wanted. He thinks hes the victim. Funny that he was surprised that he was being charged with murder. Like what were you expecting a gold fucking medal? 48:10
And he never once expressed remorse for killing someone over playing music he didnt like that was 'too loud'
"I'm the victor, but also the victim" is such a revealing phrase.
N a r c i s s i s m
@MKMW C are you ok?
he knew they were listening. He was trying so hard lol
To be fair, if he actually was in real danger, I'd understand, but... he's just a person trying to use self-defence as a reason for shooting kids he believed were thugs for... playing the music too loud.
People like these give self-defence such a bad name.
As soon as he said that I knew it was to do with black people.....
“So after I valiantly used my sharpshooter skills despite having no gun marksmanship experience , I graciously defended myself against those evil unarmed teenagers saying mean things to me. Then I ordered pizza. Can I go now?”
Sir... you killed 200 people....
You're going away for ever
"Yep, go on home and walk your little doggy and mousy girlfriend. Don't give those devastated people another thought. "
He really believed he could just lie and say they had a weapon and get off. No problem. THEN this loser leaves the scene.
I am astounded that the "love of his life" let him just leave those kids, bleeding and screaming, and go to the hotel. no.
I love how good the cop was at sugar coating the severity in the beginning in order to avoid scaring him into shutting down. “Where we kind of get to start a little wondering” AKA “when we realized you were guilty as hell was when”
Michael: “I was shooting at the door”
Officer: “What was the purpose of that?”
Michael: “To save my life”
Officer: “From the door?”
😂
😂
Well done
Seriously. When the car is leaving, like... Stop shooting. You're not a cop. You're not performing a citizen's arrest. Nobody is shooting at you. Don't recklessly and vengefully empty your clip. Ugh if these people had to wield a knife instead, you'd see much smarter fighters. One of the reasons I'm annoyed by guns in the hands of amateurs.
Chad K What was Dunn talking about?
I think my favorite thing about this channel is the lack of music. Just pure information.
Usually in British drama shows, footage is pretty raw and music is kept to a minimum. The silence adds a lot of tension, and the focus is entirely on the topic. Love this style of presentation.
Agreed. I hate music especially in educational videos.
I like the fact that there is minimal narration and he never tries to tell any jokes.
@@rachaelsetzer3917 in otger vids he makes a few jones but they are actually funny like when he compared a woman sitting down to a sea lion looking over a rock😂
@@Juan-n Jodi arias 😂😂😂
His story being torn apart so well is very satisfying
Rewatching this and looking at the comments is genuinely absurd. The amount of mental gymnastics and people saying "Well both parties were at fault!" No the hell they were not. Loud music and MAYBE being rude does not equate to being shot and killed whatsoever. The way people try to justify literal murder is insane and if the races in this case were reversed people will not for a second question that it was nothing more than a unnecessary murder
Fortunately most people see it for what it is.
You're the first person I've seen mention both parties were at fault
It’s just people who would like to kill blacks themselves
Technically a murder is pre meditated. He didn’t go there looking for them. It’s an intentional, aggravated, unjustified homicide.
@@reptilianresearchredux5887 Its 2nd degree murder lmfao
That woman, his ex-fiance, is one hell of a strong woman. Not too many people would be able to do what she did for the sake of having justice on a stranger's behalf.
Thats whats wrong with this world, there was only 1 choice for her, and everyone faced with the decision of telling the truth or a lie, THE CORRECT CHOICE: ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH.
@@SubCultureVulture702 Sure, that's a lovely sentiment, but it's not reality. Rhonda was able to tell the truth here bc she's a nurse & not dependent on the defendant. I've tried cases where people feel unable to tell the truth against a defendant either bc they depend on him for money or it will jeopardize their life or the lives of others in their family
@cody davis Their comment seems to be reasonable, I don't understand the hostility coming from you.
@cody davis I'm Gen Z but ok.
Scarlet she clearly loved him, her decision was very bold
“I didn’t know I was being charged with murder... that sucks” bro lmaoooo
Buchi Chu Dude was just pissed he was gonna miss his expensive b&b
thats a vibe
i lost it when he said "that sucks"
Ikr that fucking killed me
No kidding the killer is a pathetic man.
My favorite part of this case is the woman doing what's right for people she doesn't know. I love her
True, however she betrayed her husband. Not ok.
@@Sofia-re4ix wtf is wrong with you
@@Sofia-re4ix everyone is entitled to their feelings. If I did something horrible, I wouldn't be mad that my loved ones turned me over. If you do, then I unsertand it, it's difficult to accept responsability for your actions
@@Sofia-re4ix He wasn't her husband. He was her fiance.
@@user-mp3pf2ir2p Thats not how marrige works tho. Until death. Take the oath seriously. That being said this guy was a goober so idk. I feel bad for the simple people who are naturally confused by being around the very problematic A.A culture. No excuse to kill but still, the mind knows this is unnatural.
oh the irony when you know he was afraid of some teenagers and now gets to spend the rest of his life with actual hardened criminals. lol.
"..I'm being charged with murder and attempted murder..that sucks."
This guy really doesn't give a fuck that he killed that kid.
Disgusting
People like this shouldn’t get the death sentence they need life in prison so they can suffer. Pedophiles should be shot in the head right after the guilty verdict is read
I totally agree. Based on the nature of the crime the death penalty almost seems merciful.
Black children aren’t children to some white people.
@@simmonewatts693 most defs white children aren't children to some white people either and Hispanic children are not children to some black, white, and other Hispanic people and Asian children are not children to some white, black, Hispanic and other Asian people and......ah well you get the idea sometimes it seems like the only thing humans have been able to consistently work together for about as long as written history and probably before also is hating each other
Rhonda is so lost, “should i tell you what i was thinking?” Poor woman, good for her for not covering up for him.
She is lucky not to be charged, she saw the news and then still didn't contact the police.
R Daysh thank youuuuu! These poor woman comments are annoying
R Daysh That’s a good point. To be fair, she was reliant on traveling back to their home with their dog and such. Calling the police while in the same hotel or such may put her/the dog in danger when she can call later that day. I know there are plenty of other options, but I still think that is a rough spot to be
@GreekNeek What? I never once mentioned a walk.
@@rerooar I thought they said they called from the house, and I imagine it's the most difficult situation to be in, it can take a bit of time to actually comprehend a situation sometimes. Tbh she seems quite timid, I feel like he treated her like shit. I was pleasantly surprised when I saw her standing against him.
Poor Rhonda, seems like such a kind and gentle person.
I guess...
She talks like a two year old.
Gets on my nerves.
@@lisafoos8976 she was getting emotional while speaking
@@connnnnnor
Well, she sounds exactly the same when questioned at the police station and on the phone with Mike Dunn. That is her voice.
I just feel salty about this whole case that I would probably find something to be catty about.
This shouldn't have happened.
Sorry....
You can really hear the dawning realization that not only did her fiance kill a boy, it was in cold blood and unprovoked in her voice and the shock that washes over her as the interrogators relay what he'd said to them, the obvious lies and the ways his behavior betrayed the cruel thing he'd done and how he thought that was a-ok and justified.
Summary: Guy calls kids thugs, then acts like a thug himself.
But they aren't thugs.
@@markmyers8491 the commenter didn't say they were
You know he wanted to call them the n word so bad.
@@s103792 totally you can hear him almost mentioning it a few times
Seeing as how thug is a doctrinal word used to describe black people existing, I would say this guy wasn't acting like a thug at all. In fact, those who use that word to refer to PoC are usually found to have ties to white nationalism.
i appreciate that his fiancée didn't lie to cover his ass. it was probably hard for her to tell the truth but it was the right thing to do.
Hopefully, she dropped his ass and moved on with her life.
She took a dangerous criminal off the streets, her fiance... That man shot those kids for simply insulting him, it was only a matter of time before he took another life.
@@RiaGuy Yeah and with someone that unhinged and who called himself a victim after murdering a child... I'm thankful she's safe from him now
She knew if she lied for him, she’d eventually get shot too...
*nana*
Agreed!
But you can tell she's truly terrified!
What scares the hell out of me is all of the co-workers I've been around over the years who use the exact same language and think the same way as this guy.
It has nothing to do with feeling threatened. It has everything to do with hatred towards anyone whom they view as unlike themselves. And then the imagine threats that don't actually exist to justify that hatred retroactively.
What makes it worse is this idealization of a gun as their means to enforce that hatred on the world if they find themselves in what they think is the right situation to use it. So many of them talk about their guns and how much they trained to use them in situations like this if they ever felt like they were being confronted. They fantasize about how skilled they are with it. They talked endlessly about modifying their guns and spending all this money on them.
being what could be referred to as a gun expert, i totally get where you're coming from. the degree of fetishization one tends to have towards their weapons always lines up pretty perfectly with how much they want to use them. certain contexts renders that pretty moot, like hunters, competitive shooters and merc types have a tangible motivation to obsess over high end custom kit(and the people who make their living selling to them). but this guy only owns and carries a gun because he actively wants to use it and his type is frighteningly common.
I honestly hate carrying a gun... It's uncomfortable af.
But, I'd rather have it than not.
Luckily, 99% of those kinds of people you described are never in a position to actually use their guns to protect themselves because they don't actually carry them. It's just a macho thing to them, like how "outdoorsman" think they know how to survive in the wilderness because they go on a weekend camping trip in their RV twice a year lol
@NativeTexMexican I feel the same. I carry sometimes, but even then it feels weird
"What makes it worse is this idealization of a gun as their means to enforce that hatred on the world if they find themselves in what they think is the right situation to use it."
and the PERFECT summarisation award goes to...
Jordan Davis' mom left her 30-year career as a flight attendant and ran for congress becoming Representative McBeth in 2019. Since then, she has sought bipartisan solutions to end gun violence, uplift small business and economy, protect and serve veterans, and lower the cost of health care and prescription drugs.
Wonderful woman
Should've taught her kid manners.
@@azmagaref ain't no way you're blaming a kid who got murdered. doesn't matter if he was rude or not, he didn't deserve to die over it.
@@azmagarefBy that logic, you deserve the same fate for your comment.
Dead 17 year old and his response to being charged is
“ that sucks “
Unbelievable but believable
Before finishing the video I thought this comment was just a paraphrase but holy shit he actually said that (48:01)
Yeah, it's clear he doesn't care that he died
I mean it's just a 17 year old thug right?
@Crispy . sarcasm! I'm just kinda roleplaying a sympathizer for our murderer here.
Imagine killing someone's son after watching your own get married.
Thats a very profound statement. Impressive
This made me actually say "woah."
this is gay
@@calebkiller97 Does your mother know you've travelled back to 2006 to comment that?
imagine killing some kid over loud music....
Ugh the way he saunters into the interrogation room with complete confidence that he’ll be in and out of there is despicable
It's funny to hear a murderer say "live and let live" 😂
Rhonda’s humanity is incredible. The truth causes her so much pain, but she suffers through it because she knows it’s the right thing to do. I hope she finds peace.
I know!! Poor woman, her whole life turned upside down because of that monster and then having to get up in court and testify against the man she loved because she knew that he was a murderer must have been so difficult. Her testimony no doubt is what solidified his conviction as he was shown by the person closest to him to be a liar. Thank goodness for her and that she actually had empathy.
I agree, I have a feeling her truth comes from abusive history shes seen before from him but it's hard to admit to strangers
She’s had a lucky escape, she seems like a sweet and mild woman, but who knows what would’ve happened if she upset him during a fight. She could’ve been next.
She’s suffering because she knows being a snitch is wrong.
@@bravo1IsixI it's not about "snitching" it's an internal battle she is fighting.
She is fighting herself as she knows she needs to tell the truth because that's what the victims deserve and trying to protect her fiance.
I think what she did was remarkable as you can tell this was a major battle she was fighting in her mind.
I just hope she eventually moves on and finds somebody that will treat her like the lady she deserves to be treated like.
"I'm the victim here. I'm the fucking victim here!" alright calm down Gabbie Hanna
holy shit 💀💀
😂😂
This the one
LMAOO💀
whats the tea about gabbie?did she do something again?
The kid driving is a hero. That move was insanely well-thought and under a lot of pressure. It’s so brilliant and honestly I wouldn’t be able to think of it or do it. Rhonda was brave for taking the stand. She told the truth, a simple thing for sure, but the statement against the person she loved most for what he did… it’s inspiring. The kid who died was an absolutely tragic loss. No reason other than Dunn’s pathetic ego.
I remember this shooting. I was relieved when he was convicted. I never saw the interrogation or anything about the fiancée. I see he's even more horrible than he seemed back then.
You’re black aren’t you?
The million-dollar question is why you remember THIS particular shooting out of the tens of thousands of shootings in the US every year. Someone in America got shot while I was writing this comment, and maybe they were killed. There are around 50 homicides per day in the US. But you chose this specific shooting to remember and care about.
Gee, I wonder why..
@@JakeKoenig It was a huge news story, that's why.
@@JakeKoenigare you trying to say black people have some kind of special privilege and aren’t oppressed, and mainstream media makes white people look evil? To me it seems like you’re just saying you don’t care about the victim bc he’s black, and think that people ONLY care about the victim because he’s black. Unlike you, not everyone is unhealthily obsessed with race
I think I get what your are saying. The boys were not saints in this case. Stereotypes are there for a reason. This time they were unlucky and provoced and threatened a nutcase that could not stay calm. @@JakeKoenig
His wife knows he’s talking bullshit over that jail phone.
Yea cause he said he was a victor for killing a child over loud music
@@cassiec9008 and yet the taxpayer's money is being wasted keeping this POS alive. He should be six feet under...
@@adamthompson9785 are you aware that it costs the taxpayers more to put someone six feet under
@@adamthompson9785 No, we should set an example and say that we will NOT take anyones life, we will be the better people. No one has the right to take a life, certainly not the government, which is basically a corporate mafia. If you can show me data that shows that the death penalty reduces crime then go ahead.
Fiancée, not wife
C’mon guys, go easy on him. He missed out on a fairly expensive bed and breakfast.
😱😱😱
90 years sentence
those things alone are good
But BOTH together??? man that must be the worst thing to miss :(
😂😂😂😂😂
He’ll probably get breakfast in prison. And a bed. He won’t be sharing either with who he expected though.
"How long have you known Mr. Done-for?"
😂😂😂
I swear I can’t stop watching these. If Netflix documentaries had a comment section I would officially never leave my house.
FELT THIS SIS
I swear all of a sudden, boom, im interested in these videos
A Netflix comments section would be dead AF
Omg I'm addicted too!!!! Last night I watched like 5! Wth!
same
“It’s unfortunate I’m being charged with murder, that sucks.” Zero remorse
If I had some dudes threaten to kill me and came at me I'd feel close to no remorse as well. Dudes guilty as sin but remorse is based also on experiences. Non remorse doesnt mean guilt. *edit yeah just saw the 27 minute mark. Dudes a git.
@@Dunington He was informed that the guy didn't have a weapon, fact that he already knew, that's the reason he's showing no remorse. Thinking he was "going to be attacked" is his delusion he's trying to sell, he went to provoke a situation where he could have the chance of '"teaching those thugs a lesson' and don't forget the context that this happened after Trayvon Martin got killed and the guy who killed him is free.
@@wgjung1 yup, my response made sense in my head. I didnt express it well enough. To me he was just fed up with kids showing no respect. When the kid said to turn up the radio Dunn snapped. He showed the same lack of respect but thought himself better. That to me is why no remorse. Hopefully that was better worded ;)
@@Dunington It's reasonable thinking if you are going to get attack by 4 guys you have the right to defend yourself but this was not the case from the start. The proof of that is the guy who said: "I heard loud music, I didn't like it, I left", meaning if you have the option of leaving then you're not under threat . That tells you the guy went to look for this outcome and even in the case of self defense the law says 'reasonable action' meaning if the guys are fleeing you don't have the right to keep shooting at them because they are not longer a threat to you, only psycho like Dunn might think that's self defense. Last thing: check Dunn's comments about his life in prison, that gives you a good portrait of what kind of guy is this...individual.
@@wgjung1 I never said any differently. Your vernacular merely mirrors my expressed cogitation but without a sybaritic runoff.
100% that woman blames herself for the whole thing for asking her fiancé to stop at that gas station for a bottle of wine.
One of the most important things I was told during training was, "Gun on, Ego off."
It has served me well and actually made me a calmer and more understanding person.
I guess nobody told Michael that though...
"It's unfortunate that things turned out the way that it did."
- Man who unfortunately was there to turn things out that way
Cool to see us and our favorite content creators are equally addicted to these vids :D
That’s the best way I could have put it
Why do I feel sorry for him and wished he was judged free? Am I just naive and felt for his crying? Or is it because he is white and the kids were black? Or both?
@@__Mr.White__ what
@@__Mr.White__ i think you need a psychologist holy fuck
"I didn't know I was being charged with murder... That sucks." His lack of empathy for the kid he just killed is stunning. All he cares about is whether he can bond out.
Well some people lack human emotion and empathy who is sad but you can’t do anything about that as some people think different ways and have beliefs that regular humans don’t and won’t understand
Really sucks that I mag dumped in some kids car... and killed someone, probably would have done that differently.
I imagine he lacked the same empathy for his wives and girlfriends he brought from other countries to abuse. So glad his wife testified against him.
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ᏃᎾᎾ ᏦᎬᎬᏢᎪ Did not know about that. >:( I will do more googling on him.
I'm not sure really. If I accidentally fly killed someone I probably at first would be worried about spending rest of my life inn prison too.
See. I cant do anything g about the guy I accidently killed. But my life is still here.
So first few days in custody I probably would be thinking more about myself than anyone else incl. Victim.
That is, if it was genuine accident. If I acted hot headed and as result so.eone dies, I'd at first probably would be asking to lock me up for life. I assume.e it's just easier mentally to get punishment, easier to cope with horrible thing I just did... kind of, closure for myself... not sure if I could live knowing I just killed someone..
Why can't people just mind their own business? If something is aggravating you, move or leave. Stop trying to boss people around.
it's a control thing. he had every intention of being a dick to those kids when he pulled in next to them. the idea of having power over a situation is intoxicating to them.
Before you respond like a lunatic, what I'm about to say is not a defense for murdering someone.
Why cant people not blast music 20x louder than it needs to be? Why is it so important for everyone within 300ft of you in a public space to hear the music you're playing? You're choosing to be a jerk by doing that, and I shouldn't have to be forced to hear your garbage music when I'm trying to sleep, or fill up my gas tank.
This channel is fascinating to me. I was raised in Singapore & South Korea, the mere idea that you could own guns and just shoot at kids whenever you feel annoyed is absolutely insane.
"I shot at the door."
"What was the purpose of that?"
"It was to save my life-"
"From the door?"
I mean the door looked angry it was red
I love the sass from the detective soon as there done extracting his bs narrative he just lets loose
Literally my favorite part lmao
i read this as he said this... what great timing i also just love the investigator's humor its just my cup o' tea
I burst out laughing during this part. 😂
Quotes from this dude: "They were thugs", "They're violent", "I'm the victim".
Also this dude: *Drives drunk, stops at gas station to buy more booze, starts a verbal altercation with teenagers and then commits murder*
Everything this man assumed about his victims was actually projection.
He blames everyone around him but never takes time to look at himself. Such a scumbag narcissist.
Nice strong dash of racism as well
@@short600 Yep, classic white man labelling black teens as "violent thugs" and calling himself the victim. This dude is disgusting. They were just kids.
@@short600 In this case, as well as in the Michael Drejka case, it all starts with this class of people who think that they are entitled to break the law.
in the Michael Drejka case, it was the selfish woman who parked illegally (in a handicapped spot), and in this case, the thugs blasting music in close proximity of others trying to enjoy their own lives, but cannot, due to these people who have NO place in civilized society. And, when others try to defend themselves, or try to ask the miscreants to stop breaking the law (i.e. illegal parking, illegal noise violation), they are the ones who end up in prison. Society in these here United States of America, has become unbearable over time, due to this unfortunate evolution of society into one where one particular class of people makes life miserable for others
@@RandPaul-se6jz what are you talking about. He shot at them because of his twisted reasons
He hates that thug music, then proceeds to act like a thug.
Excellent comment.
Talk about being a thug.
This monster shot a child for no good reason.
In his mind, he was killing "black men thugs" not "little boy thugs".
If you look up cowardly thugs in Webster's, there will be his picture and a summary of sorry thug Mike.
yup. he is one.
Again the naration is very professional. Thanks for the videos!
Mike: "I'm the fucking victim here"
Me: scrolls straight to the comments
Lol
Exactly what I did. Haha
@@charleslindbergh8222 no
Yup, I did the same...
@@charleslindbergh8222 not at all
"I didn't know I'd be charged with murder, that sucks."
🙄
really just not vibing with it tbh
He sounds kind of stupid to be honest.
@@PBMS123 you don't say
Racist wimp Who loves his French bulldog! At least his girlfriend was honest, I hope she dumps him
That's impressive detective and forensic work. All of the facts connected to the door being shut the entire time, and the angle of the bullet entries. Incredible.
I’m trying to fathom what business it was of his in the first place to tell someone to turn down the music in their own space. His entitlement and bias is evident. The fact that before the incident he described the music as “thug music” to Rhonda says everything. He actually believed he had a right to dominate them and then punish them when they didn’t comply the way he wanted. Sickening.
He just assumed that 3 young men in a car playing music were thugs, were criminals and were a threat to his life. His vile prejudices were his downfall.
I mean he called black people animals in the jail call he's clearly racist. She even said that they wouldn't find what was going on okay so she knew he meant black people
Not arguing I'm saying that he was mostly thinking black people are all thugs
you realize that "gangsta rap" is a real genre of music, and a significant amount of rap music has lyrics that glorify crime, right? so i am not sure how many negative assumptions you can really make about a person for describing music that often glorifies crime as "thug" music. people of all races who are not into that type of music may consider it "thug" music, so you seem to be falling for the common error pushed by mainstream media to see any white person interacting with a black person in a negative way as obviously due to racism, when racism is not really as prevalent as they want you to think. it is probably more likely that a drunk, crabby old man felt threatened when a bunch of punks insulted him and acted aggressively towards him for asking them to turn the radio down and he did something stupid and shot at them. the media is so desperate for examples of racism that they will try to turn any incident involving white and black people into an example of it, you should be wary of this.
I'm sure he never played loud, modern-at-the-time music with his friends as a teenager... and he even calls them kids! Just smile and wave. Maybe buy them some sour gummy worms. If you must be a jerk, blast your own music louder.
This guy is unbelievable.
This courtroom has cinema quality cameras. Dang.
And the contrast??? Like okay HBO documentary!!!!! I see you!!
and it's not just the quality of the picture; the person behind it is taking some legit beautiful angles on some of the footage - that is an aspiring artist that found a way to pay for their "hobby" lol well done, whoever you are
On God they do
@@soulchorea fareal he already lives what he does.. the angles are poetic
Yeah with professional colour grading lmao
Come on guys he's innocent. I confuse shotguns for sticks all the time. Walking through the woods is terrifying
The giving tree lookin mad weird at a distance
It's happened like 3 times, never had my glasses on
Lmaoo just walking down the path like “oh what a nice da-AHHH PLEASE TAKE MY WALLET oh it’s just a stick. Whew. AHHH PLEASE NO oh it’s another stick.”
😂😂😂😂💀. Guns everywhere.
I seen a loaded stick before…..
Gosh a truthful and honest person is music to the ears . Well done Rhonda 👏👏
The integrity of that woman will forever amaze me. Bless her heart.
The camera pinning on who I assume are the victim's family while the defendant graphically discribes the reimagined moment of the shooting breaks my heart. The contrast between the faces of these people witnessing the testimony and the tone of him just coldly reenacting his vividly callous decision couldn't be sharper. Whatever the defence tried to do with that manner of presentation only helped to solidify how absent any remorse in that man is.
But as horrid as the case was, it sure wasn't a tough investigation. There are countless of complicated, long lasting and even unsolved cases out there, it's truly releaving to see one so clear and simple, complicated only by the suspect's extraordinary believes about the outcome. It's near comical how wrong he was to assume he'll be justified as long as he says so.
Tragic nontheless. May the family and friends be consoled in getting justice and always have whatever they need for support in their grief.
I feel so bad for Rhonda like you can feel the pain in her voice when she says it was her idea to go to the gas station, poor lady.
It is often those with no real culpability who blame themselves, while many who are guilty have a hundred excuses for why their bad behavior was everyone else’s fault.
I really hope she got help. It clear wasn't her fault. She seemed like a decent person just trapped in a bad situation with someone she loved. I'm glad she actually told the truth and didn't make up lies to get herself in trouble.
Notice in the first conversation they were talking on the phone, ge completely cuts her off when she's telling him about a book his mom was sending to her. To talk about being a victim. POS.
@irish Sinatra how tf was she in on it
@Dana Davison True he abused his past wives
Wow he called himself “the victor”. He really feels accomplished of what he did that’s sad.
When did he say that?
@@StefanReich 2:17
@@exerray5388 Oh, indeed
Yup. Big tough guy kills a teenager cause he doesn't like his music.
Kay he wanted to see what it felt like to kill someone, shoot someone. While he was talking he was hanging himself the whole time!
What’s always wild to me is how some people who clearly have ZERO impulse control do so well in life and are only jailed in their 50’s.
It is wild. It may also be that he has acted aggressively in the past but this may have been his first time using violence. We’ll never know unfortunately.
How utterly traumatizing for those kids, seeing their friend dying in the backseat, shot to death….😢😢😢😢 it’s absolutely heartbreaking.
I read he died with his head in his friend's lap😢
“What was the purpose of that?”
“To save my life”
“From the door?” LOL i love the investigator
I literally just commented this, nice to know I’m not the only one who got a chuckle out of that bit
Lol. The investigators were havin none of it from him.
does some have a time stamp? i miss it >:/
Izzy Vargas 43:15
I was scrolling through the comments and read this exactly as I read this comment... Haunting
"a mercedes... and he loved that baby"
"oh, gosh, well, i mean, that was a million years ago"
"a fairly...expensive bed & breakfast"
added to the list
Very perceptive Alina.
Smh at these criminals...
What’s the first one from ?👀
@@icequeenfrostine it's from the video called "Jennifer's Solution", she was 24 and killed her parents
@@elissa5902 thanks ! I saw that one but guess I missed that line hahah
Let this be a lesson to all. Mind your own business. It's not anyone's responsibility to worry about how loud someone's music is. These were kids, kids do things like that. You can't shoot someone just because your angry. This guy is dispicable. My condolences to the young man's family that perished.
Rhonda is a soldier. Michael was confident she would back him up. The look on his face says it all.
Detective: “You have the right to remain silent..”
Mike: “So anyway I started blasting”
LOL
LOL, spit out my drink on that one. Seriously, it's pretty accurate.
Quicker than a flash
Lmao 😂 I read this and my noodles went everywhere
fluid motion~
Rhonda not lying for her husband is honestly really nice to see. she didn’t seem to lie or downplay the situation ever to save her fiancé from getting a harsher sentence. even when she talks to him on the phone she doesn’t just give in to what he wants to hear. that’s really... like... you don’t see that often.
It is surprising especially after seeing the mother and lawyers of Dalia Dippolito...
i was coming here to say this. She clearly respects the process and I respect her for it.
She was too good for him.
It feels a lot like their relationship was abusive. The way she describes that he was already angry and she didn't want to ask any questions over the next 24 hours really says she has been walking on egg shells. This event gave her the space to be on her own after he was arrested and finally realise her situation. It's a shame that someone had to be murdered for her to get out of that situation.
She was his fiance, not his wife. She literally dodged a bullet.
The way he’s bragging about how he handles a gun 🙄
Dude really thinks being "scared" is a legit excuse to kill indiscriminately.
Reminds me of many police shootings we’ve read about in the news.
@@matthewbrooks1556 Yep. I couldn't help but feel that plenty of cops have told a similar story in similar situations and got paid leave before going back to work. At least this guy didn't get away with it.
"I'm the victor, but also the victim" Yes Mike, you truly are the "victor" for opening fire at a car full of unarmed teenagers...
*at a Gas Station
@@xrayjusef Nah. His sentence is correct
@@skyehimalaya8047 ye the sentence is correct didnt say anything about that but imagine what could have happened from Shooting a gun at a Gas Station
@@xrayjusef What sense does that make lmao.
@@skyehimalaya8047 the fucking Gas Station blowing up?
“I didn’t know I was being charged with murder. That sucks”
✨There’s probably about five things that coulda gotten done differently last night✨
✍🏽 mhmm
There ya go, petty patrol, I fixed it for you since 2 words that were left out really bothered so many of you. I hope you sleep better tonight 🤣 and I hope you learn to take a joke for what it is and not be so pressed 😘
@Ethan Ansell wow thank you for the unnecessary correction and time stamp
@@trashpanda5093 😟
@@trashpanda5093 wasnt a unnecessary correction tho, you used "quotes" but got the quote wrong so he corrected it.
@@BlackSlimShady * wasn’t, though, quotations
See? Unnecessary.
This guy is so disconnected from reality it’s insane
"Im the victim"....Im surprised that we havent heard these exact words out of Sarah Boone's mouth.
This man is actually proud that he lit up a vehicle full of teenagers. No regret or trauma, and complete detachment from reality. Adds little descriptors like “quick as a flash” and “fluid motion” like he thinks he is some kind of badass.
This guy is clearly racist
@@Pwn3dbyth3n00b he’s the only thug in this situation
The only thing he seems to fear is prison
I don't get the need to have a gun, this situations really escalates quickly because of it...
Yeah its fucked. Everybody think for yourselves and ditch stereotypes. Also keep to yourself. You never know what delusional people with a gun could do. This was just fucked.
“Your car’s not shooting at them, you are.” Perfect statement by the interrogator
And impressive in how immediate the statement was. Such a great job he did, kudos to him
I read this comment right as he said it
"what was the purpose of that?"
"to save my life"
"from the door?"
I fully agree with him about the
Music but why say something just get your wine and leave just mind your own business and leave people alone
Thanks for both-siding the murder case, Will.
You could tell it broke her heart not to lie for him, but she was gonna tell the truth. Good for her, that dude is trash.
You can be my Rhonda :3
@@JGLuxe bruh
@@JGLuxe brother is down horrendous
@@JGLuxe down egregiously atrocious
@@JGLuxe down absolutely universally astronomically