the funniest part of this run is how Jacob decides not to grind friendship for Riolu, but then later edits the friendship value in PKHex to get Levanny of all pokemon.
I think the solution to friendship is to remove gaining friendship by walking and double (or more) friendship gain for other sources (battling, defeating gym leaders, grooming, vitamins etc) so you actually have to engage with the mechanic instead of just walking in circles
@@mechashadow nah that's a great solution. It just requires you to play the game to evolve them, and once you get far enough in the game you can grind vitamins and grooming to do it faster. It works ten times better, at least
@@zachmac3824 i think there's an even better solution Just make every single friendship evolution ANYTHING else instead. Make them Level Up, Stone, whatever, just anything but friendship
The universal randomizer has options that replace pokemon with pokemon around similar base stats along with trainer options that make pokemon over a certain level. Also in the universal randomized it produces a changelog that can be read if you want to look ahead at gym leader or champion teams
@@DaybreakTownGSA you said it, there's some much better and MUCH worse sonic games out there. Sonic heroes was peak imo but idk the general opinion on the best sonic games.
@@VTGN-II "Why does *SHE* always get the legendries." I didn't know that's the same as saying "why do my rivals ( *Cheren* who is apparently a she ) get all the legendries." Well, didn't know Pokemon had that kind of representation in Black and White.
@@lyrathekitkat ok, so why did he throw a tantrum every time a legendary made it onscreen like idk, the latios or jirachi. Or why on the stream (the parts he cut out of the video) he literally about having to fight her legendaries for minutes in several occasions. Or better yet, elaborate how his comment at 30:40 isnt complaining about having to fight it. Stg, alpharad fans gotta be the dumbest dudes in existance.
The beginning of this video shows why BST mapped randomising is the way to go. Basically every pokemon gets replaced by one with very similar base stat total. Meaning that early trainers aren’t going to come around with a legendary, and you get a pokemon with 2 evolutions as starter that has roughly the strength of a starter pokemon. I agree a viability rating is better, but BST randomising is…incredibly easy. UniversalRandomizer literally has a function for it
if friendship evos got replaced w level up evos, i think eevee should instead evolve into espeon with a sun stone, umbreon with a moon stone, and sylveon with a shiny stone (since 2 other fairy types need it to evolve, it would make sense to use it for eevee into sylveon too)
I’ve had an idea similar to your tiering system for randomized nuzlockes for a while but instead of having Pokémon randomize based on what part of the game you’re in they would randomize into anything of the same tier, so D tier Pokémon only randomize into other D tier Pokémon and S tier Pokémon only become other S tier Pokémon. This could still cause the issue of people getting too good of Pokémon early on and wiping the game which could potentially be counteracted with having certain fights have chances of rerolling into higher tier Pokémon, like if the champion has 5 A tier Pokémon and 1 S tier Pokémon it would have 5 Pokémon with a 75% chance to be A tier and 25% chance to be S tier and one guaranteed S tier. This obviously would have issues that would need to be worked out but I’m curious on your thoughts on it in general
There’s a thing where mons randomize into those with similar BST already as a function. Combining that with increasing enemy level by 50% or more, you can suffer even in a randomizer
What Dustin said universal poke rando already has that feature. You can also make it randomize gym leaders randomize with themes. Lots of features that are never used or overlooked and then complained about.
Sometimes I think when these streamers run through the randomizer that they do something to radically weight the likelihood of legendaries showing up for the sake of content.
I dont know i anyone picked up on this but when Jan asks for an explanation of how Alpha pronounces Liepard, he has an example right above his head in “geologie”
Jan gets so caught up on how people pronounce Pokémon names in all his videos, worked so hard to understand all the intricacies of reading English words and saying them correctly meanwhile all the native speakers just say wrong stuff 🤣🤣
If I recall have a Pokemon defeat other Pokemon does increase friendship, same with having intended Pokemon in first slot and should improve other friendship increases, sooth bell to increases friendship like first slot and too should improve other friendship increases, giving held items to hold which is effective with the sooth bell, specific berries, messages and other kind of methods and teaching TM moves(was better with unlimited TMs). Do all these right and it's easy although those that have other requirements are a little tougher.
friendship evolutions are basically just level up evolutions as well, but you happen to have the option to speed the process up with various methods. I don't see what's to complain about. I mean, even if you don't use some cheesy methods, you can still get it fairly quickly just by playing well and using it often.
The randomizer I use has a setting labeled “similar strength” where I think it uses BST to categorize Pokémon which isn’t the best measurement but it’s better than legendaries in the early game and shit mons in the elite 4. Also something Jacob NEEDS to enable “enforce final evolutions at level ___”. It’s so fucking boring to see baby Pokémon in the elite 4
Because you can give a caveman a phone but you can't expect him to make a phone call. The AI in these games largely do not know how to use a lot of the moves, some of them have complex use cases that can't be accounted for. Like Rock Tomb for example. If the AI doesn't see a kill, even if it's the highest damage move the AI has, they will *only ever* use it for speed control *if* you're faster. If you're slower, weak to rock tomb but not dead to a single hit, you're totally safe, and that shouldn't be the case, but changing that is far outside the realm of a randomizer tool
I've said this on the other two channels (im a huge fan) but you needa play pokemon parish song, it has a 13 day time limit and everytime you lose a battle or heal your pokemon the timer goes down a day
Does Jan not know that randomizers already have a "Similar Strength" setting? What it does is that it replaces any single pokémon with another one with similar stats when possible. Of course it isn't as sophisticated as the viability ranking method, but it definitely has a curve and is the best way to play randomlockes. (If that's what you're looking for)
He actually addressed that around the ten minute mark, a bit before. BST is an unreliable metric because there's a lot of variance at the same BST. It's better than nothing but you can do better.
Commenting here to say I would love to try out the modified randomizer rom if it ever gets made - if it gets made for Black and White 2 I am all over that.
def think the randomiser optimisations for nuzlockes are really interesting, maybe instead of creating an entirely new program you could try getting in touch with the person who made the Universal Randomiser if they're still about? They do have a few options already?
I gotta say, watching this video makes it very obvious that Jan has never used the modern Randomizer himself, he got all of his knowledge from watching other Streamers play with the least balanced/most Content-oriented settings. Because you can absolutely get a randomizer with a fairly reasonable difficulty curve by using actual options instead of Max Random.
Friendship evolution is not garbage. It's is easy to evolve friendship Pokemon without grinding if you do it right. Back in ruby and sapphire my brother almost leveled up his shiny Zubat/Golbat to level 100 and asked for my help and with so few level I got it to evolve for him, which I normally get mine to evolve not long after mine become Golbat some times the next level after start level of evolution
So there is a game with a built in randomizer that can be scaled through an option. It's called Radical red. Not sure if you've seen it or tried it but it's alot of fun both in regular and hard-core as well as randomized
Im fine with friendship evolutions, except when they hang on with 1 HP, increase crit rates, etc. I think it's nice to not know when my Pokemon will evolve, it's a bit more natural to just let it happen whenever it will. And Nuzlockes are a self imposed challenge, so you can just make your own personal rule to not use friendship evolutions until a certain point. I don't think they really need a mechanical overhaul.
I at first rolled my eyes when I heard the voice acting take, but I have zero interest in actually reading anything, and these games have way too much dialogue now... But I think if I could listen to characters talk, instead of reading I would be more engaged. Because I have destroyed my brain by playing video games, and also having something else on the side happening for the last like 23 years of my life reading is too boring for me. XD Well also I guess the content is just boring. Like Diamond and Pearl I remember like reading books and stuff in the library, because the lore was actually interesting.
If Jacob had someone to trade with and the right Evo items, he could've had Porygon2 and PorygonZ, but what are the odds of someone also playing Gen 5 at the same time
Why don't they make every pokemon that gets a set damage move learn them atleast mid game instead of early game so you can play around randomizer zekrom/reshiram, also endeavor and sonic boom is mean if you get off the quick claw
the funniest part of this run is how Jacob decides not to grind friendship for Riolu, but then later edits the friendship value in PKHex to get Levanny of all pokemon.
The last time you got a really strong pokemon to the entire team got wiped and he "lost"
I think the solution to friendship is to remove gaining friendship by walking and double (or more) friendship gain for other sources (battling, defeating gym leaders, grooming, vitamins etc) so you actually have to engage with the mechanic instead of just walking in circles
I think there is no solution to Friendship between these two.
@@mechashadow nah that's a great solution. It just requires you to play the game to evolve them, and once you get far enough in the game you can grind vitamins and grooming to do it faster. It works ten times better, at least
@@zachmac3824 i think there's an even better solution
Just make every single friendship evolution ANYTHING else instead.
Make them Level Up, Stone, whatever, just anything but friendship
That sounds obnoxious af if you have more than 1 Friendship evolving Pokemon, or if your friendship pokemon doesn't work against certain gyms
@@bastianschuck5455 that runs the risk of them becoming Trade evolutions
"is this twitch chat or is the fucking alpharad update newsletter" fucking broke me
imagine if bianca had kept all her pokémon though. i’d love to see endgame bianca with raikou, zekram and zapdos
The universal randomizer has options that replace pokemon with pokemon around similar base stats along with trainer options that make pokemon over a certain level. Also in the universal randomized it produces a changelog that can be read if you want to look ahead at gym leader or champion teams
pChal: "Sonic Frontiers is a garbage doody game"
also pChal: *plays League of Legenda*
So he’s self loathing by taking it out on other people. Is that what you’re saying?
Fr tho
I don't play league, but league is an okay game. Sonic Frontiers is a mid game.
@@RexOedipus. Sonic Frontiers is somewhere between peak mid and mid peak tbh
@@DaybreakTownGSA you said it, there's some much better and MUCH worse sonic games out there. Sonic heroes was peak imo but idk the general opinion on the best sonic games.
In a vanilla game, friendship evolutions incentive avoiding being knocked out. You sort of lose that extra incentive in a Nuzlocke.
suggestion: i think including the date of the stream at the beginning/in the description would be useful, and helpful for some context sometimes
He was pointing out that Bianca got the legend both times, not complaining he had to fight it
He literally did complain about fighting it though.
@@VTGN-II no he didn’t.
@@VTGN-II "Why does *SHE* always get the legendries." I didn't know that's the same as saying "why do my rivals ( *Cheren* who is apparently a she ) get all the legendries." Well, didn't know Pokemon had that kind of representation in Black and White.
@@lyrathekitkat ok, so why did he throw a tantrum every time a legendary made it onscreen like idk, the latios or jirachi. Or why on the stream (the parts he cut out of the video) he literally about having to fight her legendaries for minutes in several occasions. Or better yet, elaborate how his comment at 30:40 isnt complaining about having to fight it.
Stg, alpharad fans gotta be the dumbest dudes in existance.
@@lyrathekitkat also if he didnt care about having to fight it, why tf would he be acting so whiny over her having them on a Randomiser to begin with.
I love how his solution to friendship is just the obtuse evolution methods from generations 8+.
The beginning of this video shows why BST mapped randomising is the way to go. Basically every pokemon gets replaced by one with very similar base stat total. Meaning that early trainers aren’t going to come around with a legendary, and you get a pokemon with 2 evolutions as starter that has roughly the strength of a starter pokemon.
I agree a viability rating is better, but BST randomising is…incredibly easy. UniversalRandomizer literally has a function for it
it’s way more fun imo
if friendship evos got replaced w level up evos, i think eevee should instead evolve into espeon with a sun stone, umbreon with a moon stone, and sylveon with a shiny stone (since 2 other fairy types need it to evolve, it would make sense to use it for eevee into sylveon too)
Jan getting stunlocked over how Alpha pronounced Liepard 😂
28:55 damn human emotions and an actual good joke
The draw of randomized Nuzlockes is finding creative ways to play around god using a pidgeon.
I’ve had an idea similar to your tiering system for randomized nuzlockes for a while but instead of having Pokémon randomize based on what part of the game you’re in they would randomize into anything of the same tier, so D tier Pokémon only randomize into other D tier Pokémon and S tier Pokémon only become other S tier Pokémon. This could still cause the issue of people getting too good of Pokémon early on and wiping the game which could potentially be counteracted with having certain fights have chances of rerolling into higher tier Pokémon, like if the champion has 5 A tier Pokémon and 1 S tier Pokémon it would have 5 Pokémon with a 75% chance to be A tier and 25% chance to be S tier and one guaranteed S tier. This obviously would have issues that would need to be worked out but I’m curious on your thoughts on it in general
There’s a thing where mons randomize into those with similar BST already as a function.
Combining that with increasing enemy level by 50% or more, you can suffer even in a randomizer
What Dustin said universal poke rando already has that feature. You can also make it randomize gym leaders randomize with themes. Lots of features that are never used or overlooked and then complained about.
English, where leopard and leotard don't sound the same
"eo" and make the same sound as "e" sometimes
8:19 that’s why you check the box to use similar strength (but at that point you just do a regular nuzlocke i guess)
Sometimes I think when these streamers run through the randomizer that they do something to radically weight the likelihood of legendaries showing up for the sake of content.
I dont know i anyone picked up on this but when Jan asks for an explanation of how Alpha pronounces Liepard, he has an example right above his head in “geologie”
Wouldn't be a pokemon game without whole minutes dedicated to the pronunciation of one of the names.
I really cant wait for the PChal Randomizer, it'd really make me excited to do rando runs again
Jan gets so caught up on how people pronounce Pokémon names in all his videos, worked so hard to understand all the intricacies of reading English words and saying them correctly meanwhile all the native speakers just say wrong stuff 🤣🤣
You can kinda curv a rando in the UR you can set to where trainer will have fully evolved Pokémon at a certain level
I too, will gladly subscribe to Alpharad Update Newsletter. A.U.N for short.
In German, "ie" has an "ee" sound. However, being a dark type, I'm sure lie-pard is the proper pronunciation.
My last name is leopardi, which is spoken how he says liepard. I thought it was cool
If I recall have a Pokemon defeat other Pokemon does increase friendship, same with having intended Pokemon in first slot and should improve other friendship increases, sooth bell to increases friendship like first slot and too should improve other friendship increases, giving held items to hold which is effective with the sooth bell, specific berries, messages and other kind of methods and teaching TM moves(was better with unlimited TMs). Do all these right and it's easy although those that have other requirements are a little tougher.
The randomizer with a curve power rating is literally in fusions
friendship evolutions are basically just level up evolutions as well, but you happen to have the option to speed the process up with various methods. I don't see what's to complain about. I mean, even if you don't use some cheesy methods, you can still get it fairly quickly just by playing well and using it often.
The randomizer I use has a setting labeled “similar strength” where I think it uses BST to categorize Pokémon which isn’t the best measurement but it’s better than legendaries in the early game and shit mons in the elite 4. Also something Jacob NEEDS to enable “enforce final evolutions at level ___”. It’s so fucking boring to see baby Pokémon in the elite 4
For the randomizer, why not pick popular move sets from showdown for each Pokémon
Because you can give a caveman a phone but you can't expect him to make a phone call. The AI in these games largely do not know how to use a lot of the moves, some of them have complex use cases that can't be accounted for. Like Rock Tomb for example. If the AI doesn't see a kill, even if it's the highest damage move the AI has, they will *only ever* use it for speed control *if* you're faster. If you're slower, weak to rock tomb but not dead to a single hit, you're totally safe, and that shouldn't be the case, but changing that is far outside the realm of a randomizer tool
I'm just wondering if Bianca got to keep her starter Raikou, why didn't Cheren keep his starter Machamp? Since they usually only keep the starter
Gardevoir tracing the Mummy ability. Me likey
Also, Alpharad predicting Annihilape, saying Cofagrigus annihilated the primeape
day 514 of praying pchal remembers the vod channel exists
Day 670 of hoping Pchal remembers the vod channel
This is insane folks
The alpha tattoo is hilarious
I mean it makes sense you'd think friendship sucks. When you see pokemon after pokemon after pokemon die, it would be dumb to form bonds with them.
25:00 To be zen even if it's your fault just play Celeste. Solved it for me xD
I've said this on the other two channels (im a huge fan) but you needa play pokemon parish song, it has a 13 day time limit and everytime you lose a battle or heal your pokemon the timer goes down a day
Does Jan not know that randomizers already have a "Similar Strength" setting?
What it does is that it replaces any single pokémon with another one with similar stats when possible.
Of course it isn't as sophisticated as the viability ranking method, but it definitely has a curve and is the best way to play randomlockes. (If that's what you're looking for)
He actually addressed that around the ten minute mark, a bit before.
BST is an unreliable metric because there's a lot of variance at the same BST. It's better than nothing but you can do better.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Ah, I see. Must have missed that part.
But yeah i definitely agree an actual viability ranking would be sick.
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I like this guy but Jan, you will always be my no1 nuzlocker.
He didn't show hardly any battles and didn't turn on force max evos? How exciting
I liked the part where One Winged Angel and Dragon Quest theme played
After paying attention to your randomizer ideas i think you'd enjoy Emerald Rogue a lot
I do replace friendship evo's with level requirements, the same goes for trade evolutions
Commenting here to say I would love to try out the modified randomizer rom if it ever gets made - if it gets made for Black and White 2 I am all over that.
I think Bianca actually changes her Pokémon so the randomized rolled for new Pokémon
9th gen's 1000 steps mechanic sucks as much as friendship grinding, lol.
def think the randomiser optimisations for nuzlockes are really interesting, maybe instead of creating an entirely new program you could try getting in touch with the person who made the Universal Randomiser if they're still about? They do have a few options already?
14:59 Jurassic park references kills it
Maybe if there was a specially engineered randomized then johnstone would actually win his fucking nuzlockes in a reasonable amount of time
I gotta say, watching this video makes it very obvious that Jan has never used the modern Randomizer himself, he got all of his knowledge from watching other Streamers play with the least balanced/most Content-oriented settings. Because you can absolutely get a randomizer with a fairly reasonable difficulty curve by using actual options instead of Max Random.
I would love to see and play your randomizer
Friendship evolution is not garbage. It's is easy to evolve friendship Pokemon without grinding if you do it right. Back in ruby and sapphire my brother almost leveled up his shiny Zubat/Golbat to level 100 and asked for my help and with so few level I got it to evolve for him, which I normally get mine to evolve not long after mine become Golbat some times the next level after start level of evolution
Where can someone sign up to help contribute to this custom randomizer?
... but is he subscribed yet?
0:42 he actually is
@@juanjorodriguez6211 took his damn time lol.
I’m glad I don’t understand a single word about the league stuff in this video
No wonder this didn't make it to the main channel, there's hardly any battle gameplay
It makes the video less enjoyable when you're not giving a legit 1st time reaction
Recipient has "ie" and is pronounced Reesippiyent
Recky peent
Yep, Krokorok is definitely weak to Pin Missile
We can all agree that the dancers in Castelia City are just Lucio, right?
So there is a game with a built in randomizer that can be scaled through an option. It's called Radical red. Not sure if you've seen it or tried it but it's alot of fun both in regular and hard-core as well as randomized
Would love to see you on stream just watching like, original 151, united gamer, Gameboy luke
Im fine with friendship evolutions, except when they hang on with 1 HP, increase crit rates, etc. I think it's nice to not know when my Pokemon will evolve, it's a bit more natural to just let it happen whenever it will. And Nuzlockes are a self imposed challenge, so you can just make your own personal rule to not use friendship evolutions until a certain point. I don't think they really need a mechanical overhaul.
Happy Thanksgiving gang
I think this will be funny.
dude got stun locked on ie being pronounced like that forgetting japanese as a language
liepard isn't a japanese word but i have to assume that's why
In Romance languages, "Lie" would be pronounced "Lee-ay"
did alpharad at one point call phanpy a hamster???
Yep
Ey! Jan finally subbed to Jacob
@47:15 Really? Nobody is going to react to "Nice edging on the Drilldo"? Okay ...
@ liepard - liepard. Does "fierce" work? Oh also alien yea
This guy didn’t just legit called open world games bad?!
(Well aware who jan is and called him guy because it fits the comment better)
28:52 (TOTALLY NOT TOXIC)
Convenient is a word with ie
And I bet he’s still not subbed
What was cheated for the V-max?
Already had an encounter in that area from the gift of croagunk
I at first rolled my eyes when I heard the voice acting take, but I have zero interest in actually reading anything, and these games have way too much dialogue now... But I think if I could listen to characters talk, instead of reading I would be more engaged. Because I have destroyed my brain by playing video games, and also having something else on the side happening for the last like 23 years of my life reading is too boring for me. XD
Well also I guess the content is just boring. Like Diamond and Pearl I remember like reading books and stuff in the library, because the lore was actually interesting.
Lillie would work 17:34
17:00 look up "Lie Group"
but he says leeuhpard for some reason, even though it's spelt liepard. x)
Alpharad: i am the best nuzlocker
Also Alpharad: doesnt turn on Force fully evolution
🤡
You mean the enemy Mons past a certain level?
Sonic frontiers is a good game and it dose look good and why the heck do u hate open world games (no I’m not hating on him I’m just saying)
The “ie” in believe is pronounced the same as liepard
:(
Pierce
Can you please react to the original version of sum pokemon I’m the same style
If Jacob had someone to trade with and the right Evo items, he could've had Porygon2 and PorygonZ, but what are the odds of someone also playing Gen 5 at the same time
How Jacob cheated Jan?
Jan sounds very gay when he speaks german. Like not in a put down way, he just sounds like a gay german man.
genien adrien mienfoo
I love Alpharad, but man his forced laughter is so cringe
I feel like I’m the only one who thinks he’s not funny
13:45 L opinion
Why don't they make every pokemon that gets a set damage move learn them atleast mid game instead of early game so you can play around randomizer zekrom/reshiram, also endeavor and sonic boom is mean if you get off the quick claw
why didn’t you do this for the friendlocke
He started talking about league, I cant watch this anymore, unsubbing
Based take
Tier
nice
Siege