Burrs for DF83. | Should you go for SSP HU?
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- Опубліковано 21 кві 2023
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Your videos are very fun and informative. Hopefully the channel will grow to help out with some more gear reviews, you always give your honest opinion which seems to be a little rare these days
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Thank you for watching. Niche is definitely coming soon.
Hi Jack! Thanks for another great review! Do you think you'll stick with the SSPs for a while or will you go back to the old burrs?
Also, what is that glass carafe called you brewed the pour overs into?
Hi, thanks for watching. I hardly ever give up on the first hurdle. I did brew 2 pour overs today with those burrs and they were ok. I did espresso as well which was awful but for that I have MC5.
As for carafe, it is from Orea. I have a video about it: ua-cam.com/users/shortsQQpxHLxcELY?feature=share
@@mycoffeeshow111 I see! Perhaps they need a bunch more seasoning before producing better results. Would be interesting to hear an update after a longer period of usage, if you decide to keep them for longer.
Thanks so much! I think it looks gorgeous.
@@plemm will do. Thank you!
Hi Jack, I've been using the SSP HU in my DF83 for over a month now. Purchased my used with a solid 50lbs of seasoning.
From my own personal experience, I think the reason why you're not seeing a clear improvement in the cup is simply seasoning. I'm quite sure you will enjoy them much more after 5-10lbs.
As a reference, my espresso range with the HU is between 4 and 9 marks from 0 point. I can grind quite fine with light roasts. I'm positive the next time you compare these in a video, you'll have a different end result ;)
Also... The plasma generator kit is REALLY worth it! Check it out!
Good job as always! Cheers!
Thank you for the info. I think you might be right with the seasoning. Have you tried standard burrs as well?
Plasma generator is to tricky to install.
@@mycoffeeshow111 Yeah I had the stock burrs for a few months. They are really good! I personally prefer the HU with modern roasts but I would be very happy with any of these, really.
The Ion generator kit is a breeze to install! C'mon.. not more complicated then doing group maintenance on your La Pavoni. Removing the capacitor is not a necessity. There's a way around it... Hit me up if you ever end up doing it.
Cheers!
@@TheJolam80 Thank you very much!
Hey guys! At first thanks for the video! I'm a beginner in this whole game and I plan to purchase the DF83v2 very soon. But right now I am so confused because of the whole burr thing. Should I simply go with the standart burrs as a beginner? I'm actually planning to mostly make espresso with the grinder and try if it does filter coffee OK for my needs (maybe I would buy a manual grinder for filter extra one day).
Thanks for your tips!
Greets from Germany!
Hi, DF83 with standard burrs is a very capable grinder and you should be happy with it as it is. Once you have it for a while, you may consider upgrading burrs but don’t expect huge difference, especially from HU burrs.
All the best!
@@mycoffeeshow111 thank you very much man. Insanely fast answer!
Am using the ssp hu burrs right now, felt that it gave great clarity and complexity. Has to be perfectly wiped both top n bottom, no astrigency in brews unless over extracted. No weird mouth feels too
Thank you for letting me know. I had 2 pour overs with them today and it was good- developed some nice notes. Still, I think the standard burrs were at least as good.
Looking forward to see if SSP launch the cast burrs in 83 mm - but great to hear it works so good for pour over with the original burrs!
Cast burrs will be available any time soon but I don’t think anybody will send me a pair. I would love to test them.
@@mycoffeeshow111 Me too if shipping to Canada is easier :D
I got a SSP lab sweet 83mm burr recently and installed at DF83, which is released at late April, that is a good try for burr selection👍
Wow. How did you get them?
@@mycoffeeshow111 I preorder it from the ssp website at mid april and got it few days ago🤔
@@user-xy4di5vh6k lucky you. Once you done with them you can always send them to me 😛
@@mycoffeeshow111 haha🤣🤣🤣🤣i prefer to keep that burr inside my DF83 cuz that is a good burr😆
@@user-xy4di5vh6k don’t blame you. Enjoy!
I am debating on switching out the mazzer burrs on the Major, but i think based on your vid, might not be that great of an investment. Did the flavor change after seasoning them?
Yes it changed for better and I learned to appreciate them more. I even have a video comparing them with Mazzer burrs on Niche Duo. ua-cam.com/video/uhgS-W-2wR0/v-deo.htmlsi=P4uS0pPLkCryMNEd
Having said that, I don’t think they are worth the price. I was lucky enough to get them cheap. Otherwise I wouldn’t buy them at all.
Really enjoying your videos.
Just purchased a DF83 and am having many issues getting the stock burrs dialled in. Very inconsistent. Today, I will remove the de-clumper and see how it goes. For now will continue with stock burrs.
Thanks for the video!!
Go commando and remove it! Especially if you have a V1.
Thank you for watching! Camperista3D mod helped a lot with pour over but tbh I haven’t had any issues with espresso b4
@@mycoffeeshow111 I have ordered the Camperista mods. Currently I am “seasoning” the stock burrs to see if that helps. Then, I will dial-in the grind again. Hopefully these steps will help stabilise the grind.
@@markedwards7601 Good luck and please keep me posted with updates!
And btw camperista mod could be a little bit tricky to me. Mine is df83 v2 which already comes with that plasma generator, that's difficult for me to change the chute. Possible to get the declumper only?
This one I am not sure. That V2 should be so much better in terms of static.
5:29 Nice waves.
Don't blame me if jams anything up but maybe try putting in some Minute Rice, apparently a few lbs is faster (and cheaper) than many lbs of coffee.
Thx. Yeah, I heard about it. Good for cleaning up the burrs as well.
@@mycoffeeshow111 Just put my P64 at highest RPM and a little coarser than espresso and ground a few grams of Minute Rice as a test, seemed to handle it no problem!
@@BensCoffeeRants next try it using sand 😛
So how's the SSP HU burrs for espresso with light roasts after more testing?
Slightly brighter taste than standard burrs but the difference is not big enough to justify the price.
What camera are you using? Really like the video quality
Thank you. Sony ZV e10
I’m wondering if it’s because the burrs need more seasoning? I found SSP burrs take a while to open up - at least in my experience
Are they used or brand spanking new? Enjoy them!
I’d love to try the SSP 83mm cast burrs that they just launched. Maybe they can send them to you if your channel’s growing now 😜
I am sure seasoning would help as they are brand new.
I would need to get to 10k subscribers b4 they consider sending me anything.
Hi guys, I'm still struggling with the fines from df83 even though I have changed the burr to mazzer 151f. Not sure how to deal with it. I have to say in terms of pour over df83 right now is a bit fall short of my expectation.
So Jack, you recommend me to mod the declumper for better pour over experience ?
Make sure that burrs are aligned and seasoned. You can also stop using blower Just blow it out to the separate container afterwards. You can use faster filters and things like LilyDrip.
Camperista3D mode made a huge difference for me so you can try it as well.
Please keep me posted on your progress.
@@mycoffeeshow111 will do surely. I heard that the fines is actually the result of declumper. What's your view on this ?
@@xj9jenny8 Thx. That how it was in my case. I have a video about that: ua-cam.com/video/TO3kKfhIMOQ/v-deo.html
@@mycoffeeshow111 cool. Just revisited the video. I see that the kit doesn't help with the statics (which hopefully isn't a problem for v2), but the flow goes faster so likey we have less fines! I will try to mod my declumper and see how it goes
Fines come from declumper obstruct the exit, try removing all of it. Plasma gen will help to reduce static.
Jack have you seen the timemore 078s? Very good review not to mention a bargain for its price
I got 64s myself, mostly for fun and to play with different burrs. I have Flat Max and Niche duo coming soon so no space for another big grinder.
@My Coffee Show wow that is so many grinders, will love to try a cup from all of them:)
@@navidqowsi5618 I will do my best to describe their taste, strengths and weaknesses.
hey Jack ..according to your experience , I wanna know your opinion What is the best choice to buy Df83 or the new niche Duo (83mm flat burr) for home use having Lelit marax ...waiting your reply ...thx 🌷🌹🌷🌹
Hi, I am getting Niche Due in the next couple of months and I will definitely compare them. Until then, I do recommend DF83 to everyone looking for good value for money grinder.
@@mycoffeeshow111 thx Jack for your reply ... so I will nominate the Df83 to be my first target to buy next month ..
@@bolbol2068 let me know how you like it, when you get it. All the best!
@@mycoffeeshow111 😘😘
They were nothing special when I first got them but not that they have 30lbs through them the clarity is much better. The body is lower than other burrs but you get a lot of sweetness and aroma especially with flow profiling. I still would like a different burr though.
Thank you for the info. There are 2 more options now- Cast and MP SSP 83mm. Unfortunately I can’t afford everything 😭
@My Coffee Show yeah I'm sticking with the hu. I backed a timemore 078 for filter. I generally use my zp6 until the timemore arrives
@@Sinisterg60 good combination. I got Timemore 64s, just for fun.
This is remarkably similar to my experience… slightly clearer, but lots of trade-off.
I’m not sure it’s worth it.
Thx for the info! I will wait with my final judgment till I play with them a bit longer.
puck pressure .. your slow mo parts in the vid, underneath your open portafilter .. you see that it is uneven, in your other videos also .. almost channeling, but not .. do say it is 30-40 % over extraction and 60-70% under extraction .. you missing out a great deal from your puck!!, which then obviously translates in what you taste, which is also not correct to compare anything .. you should fix this ASAP .. and no, your decent can't fix this ..
Thank you for the advice. I wanted to blame it on Wafo basket or on unseasoned burrs but few other people mentioned that so I have to bend to your collective knowledge. Have been using DF83 with HU almost exclusively now since this video but still not impressed with the results. Will be interesting to test them again, maybe against 64mm mp or even Flat Max 2 that should arrive this week.
Once again, thank you for your feedback. Will do better next time.