The Narcissistic Sociopath (Malignant Narcissism)
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- Sociopath is a term that would come under Anti Social Personality. The narcissistic sociopath, sometimes referred to as a narcopath, or more commonly a malignant narcissist, is when sociopathy and narcissistic personality are co-morbid.
In this video Darren Magee outlines the common characteristics and traits of a malignant narcissist including a disregard for rules and social norms, lack of morality, narcissistic rage and impulsivity.
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Too right about them getting super angry. The punishment never fits the crime. There's a sadistic pleasure mixed with getting off on the anger. They love being angry, but blame you for triggering them.
Amen 💪💖
Well put and true.
Rage is one of a very few emotions they have. So true about their sadistic revenge - always way over the top.
@@badomaji I learnt since that it's part and parcel of their desire to control you through fear, while ironically losing control over themselves.
yes, I dated one who thought I spilled his nut mix on his keyboard (it was the cat) and as punishment he calmly walked up to me, held my heirloom $3k Italian marble antique cherub in his hand (20" tall and wide) & let it crash on the stone floor. I felt like I was in a horror film. It was absolutely surreal - the blank look in his eye, my having no idea what was happening. I tried to rush out of the room and he slammed the door on my hands and threw me against a cabinet. I was absolutely gobsmacked. He was a charming church going good ole boy on the outside but he was eventually incarcerated for child porn and molesting his step sons.
They absolutely have zero conscience. Once you've met one,youll never forget it. Its soul shattering to think that they actually tried to kill or ruin your life. Sick evil people.
Now imagine that it's your own aunt and she's trained her daughters to be the same way from birth, and they've spread the hatred of you through the whole Family. (Upper or lower case F. Both apply.)
Truths and never under estimate them. They have no concious
Yes, after 20+ yrs of emotional torture, then came the death threats and statements indicating she's a serial killer. Since I've gone no contact, I've finally realized I'm a good person. Better than the narcissist, for sure. Dangerous ppl. Bad leaders too.
My father. It's great that my siblings and I have turned out decent people. Glad he's now a box of dust. He still makes me angry though.
@@jumpinjohnnyruss Now imagine growing up with one. Those cold and dead eyes. His sadistic pleasure in causing emotional turmoil. The long on eggshell years I had to live through.
Narcissistic sociopaths can also be abusive (emotionally, mentally, psychologically and financially). When they don't get their way or if you tell them no, they resort to anger and hostility by laying shame and guilt onto you by making you as the monstrous villain.
My Narcissist Husband Exactly 💯
@@shirleyguinyard8183describes mine, as well.
Growing up in this environment leaves you without healthy boundaries, which in turn makes you vulnerable / susceptible to predators.
Truths and that’s why parents should work hard to heal their children!
I can never agree with that more I wish I had taken more time healing with the right people- I have personally seen the predatorial people in my life in hindsight
Yes. They violate boundaries as standard operating procedure. It's so sick
Well said
The narcissist i dealt with definetly seemed happy causing or seein others in pain
They also relish kicking you when you're down.
I worked as an assistant for a woman who was divorcing a sociopath. I don’t say this lightly… He destroyed her life.
Mines destroyed my life. I have nothing and no one left. Not even my sanity. Alone in another country over 9k miles from my homeland
Why did you date them? Because he was very kind in the beginning and later showed his true colours?
@@vasilminkov4046 yup this is how they reel you in , love bombing
Waiting for my reckoning... If i ever out him "there will be 0 redemption." :^(
It can happen by family members, a spouse, ex- spouse, former friend, employer, someone else in a position of power, or a combination of sadistic psychopaths !
I see it as a spectrum. Milder versions manifest as 'Narcissistic' , moderate versions manifest as 'Sociopathic', and severe forms as 'Psychopathic'. To me they are all cousins in a very sick, dark, egoic family.
I agree!!! Sick sick sick!🤢
Your random spectrum model is to psychology what astrology is to astronomy.
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@@caroleminke6116 toxoplasmosis
To me also
It's difficult to imagine sociopathy without narcissism. The massive sense of entitlement and complete void of empathy. There is redundancy with malignant narcissist, narcissistic sociopath etc.
Beware the violence if/when they don't get their way.
Yeah, their shallow minds can't deal with the fogginess of an indistinct social hierarchy that most people don't have much trouble with. It causes them great distress to wonder even for a moment whether they're really at the top.
Yes...
Narcopaths are often Machiavellian.
Everything you've said is exactly correct.
They always need to Triangulate.
I have seen that sadistic grin in the moments where their real powerjoyride is able to take flight
In my experience narcissists want you to tell them everything about your life and then spread gossip.
Absolutely. I’m a very private and reserved person around most people, though I’m open and fully expressed with my close friends (because they’ve earned my trust). Recently, two of my coworkers, a narcissist and a sociopath hacked my personal phone and poured through all of my personal information and data, including my family and friends. I can’t even begin to describe the anguish, emotional pain, and violation I feel…especially as an introvert who regards her privacy as sacred. They hacked my phone because they wanted information and control. They want me to be compliant and obedient, but here’s the thing: I don’t care if they spread gossip and begin rumors, I don’t care about what they think or say. I DO care about what is right and just, and my ace in the whole is having proof of their illegal activity, and then proceeding to take legal action against their immoral activities. Gossiping and rumors don’t hold a flame to the truth…and when the truth comes out, the gossiping and rumors will then retrograde into known, VERIFIABLE truth about THEM.
@@kristinanderson1983 Holy hell this sounds horrendous, sorry they did that to you. Glad you can take action!
1) My father was a narcissistic sociopath. Vicious. Screaming bloody murder every day.
2) Then, later in life, the girl I thought I would marry -- beautiful, sophisticated, adorable, tri-lingual -- turned out to be a covert narcissist who did incredible damage to me (and still does, to this day).
At this point, I learned what a "sociopath" is (via Martha Stout's book "The Sociopath Next Door). Found out that, without question, my father was a sociopath.
As for the girl, two different doctors, years apart, told me that "the girl you're telling me about sounds like a sociopath."
It was through these videos that I found out that she was a covert narcissist. (Example? Think "The Talented Mr. Ripley.")
3) Then, finally, a supervisor at work, who took my name off of my work every day and put his own name on it. Stole my project and made me invisible. The final straw.
At this point, I think "something about me attracts these people. They target me. It's safer to just stay the hell away from people altogether."
I'll say this, too:
I'm American, born in 1963. The TV show "All in the Family" was all the rage -- an ACCLAIMED Norman Lear production -- when I was a kid.
I never found it funny. I found it difficult to watch Archie's constant verbal abuse of his family, calling his wife "Dingbat" all the time, calling his son-in-law "Meathead" all the time.
Funny? Not to me. It was too close to reality in my house; constant verbal and psychological abuse, explosive rage. Walking on eggshells all the time. And HAVING NO NAME FOR IT, NO WAY TO DESCRIBE IT TO OTHERS THAT ANYONE WOULD BELIEVE. Because, my father was an ENTIRELY different person out in public versus behind closed doors with his own family. Hell on Earth.
It would be great if you could do a video on the FEMALE narcissistic sociopath, which are quite distinct from males. It doesn't seem like females are touched on very often. Videos are often geared toward talking about men. The female sociopath is quite different to males. I'm talking about the women who are incredibly superficially charming - this is what many people don't get because often in these videos it is said that sociopaths are anti-social or show no regard for others, but when dealing with the cunning female sociopath, she will throw on the charm as thick as she possibly can and make others think that she is the most charming, sweet, amazing person in the entire world, but everything about her is fake. She pretends to be oh so wonderful, and collects information on you, only to stick a dagger in your back when you least expect it. There is very little out there about the female sociopath - who craves control and is sly and cunning, she is out to destroy lives with a smile on her face. She can be beautiful and pretends to have a heart, she has so many people fooled. It can take 10 years or longer to figure out the lies that she has hidden. It would be nice if someone could put together a video on the evil of the female sociopath and how she destroys anything and everything around her if you do not worship her or play her games. It might help others discover the truth about her sooner.
Couldn’t agree more. We need this
Hey, your comment has an amazing information! Your advice to know and play her games in a smart way is very good. Do you know how we can beat people like her and which are her weaknesses?
Yes we need more info on the women . My sister is one of these . I find it very hard to deal with her .
Exactly the behaviours of my daughters Mother, completely evil!!! 👍
It sounds like you should do a video. This really is a lot of good information. They are extremely hard to catch and well hidden behind their false, pure intentions act.
I have been the victim of one. She made my life a living hell. I haven't been the same.
I grow up with my sister with this disorder. She was/is older than me. I would be different person if I would not have the constant insults in my life. Now she is old and much worst. I'm glad that there is the whole United States and the ocean between us. But, she never stops. Now she is trying to turn my children against me. She can't stand our good relationship and loosing her power. But, she can be very destructive. VERY !!!
@@sashakartus3435 My older sister lashed out at me and nearly 50 years after the fact; shouted, "Oh you are the pretty little powder- parlor girl aren't you!!" (I'm female.)
Then she rushed to me to hit me: I stepped forward having become sick of an angry tirade of false accusations that must've gone on 3 quarters an hour which I silently endured (stuck in a car with her driving.) I'd had it by then, so when she ran to hit me (we were in her house) I stepped forward and said coldly, "Go ahead and hit me! Please do!" She must've guessed I was angry enough to hit her back so she stepped back.
I gathered my weekend bag of clothes etc and struggled up the street with them and sat on the curb wondering where to go with no money for a motel.
I'd been overseas years and was at my father's house, when she found our that I was going to visit a friend I'd not seen in 30 years. Somehow that was going to stuff up her plan (no she wasn't to drive me anywhere, I'd have used public transport,) there is NO way it could've interfered with her plan of a trip north that weekend (bearing in mind she could go ANY weekend she chose to anyway!) She called me a selfish, nasty little bitch and other unprintable names. Then she dragged up how I had been a child model when a baby (I don't even remember it! My photo was in all photographers windows; I was supposedly pretty!) She must've absolutely *hated* that as she was plump, with buck teeth and a bossy disposition. She usedto bash me and my brother.
I had tried showing her the genuine love I had felt in my heart for her in so many ways and she'd respond with cruelty. It broke my heart. So I was sitting in the dark on the curb with my bag in the dark. I had nowhere.
Next day she got on the phone and told lies to my 3 brothers, her children and made me look so bad that they were rude and mean to me. I have never known how to stand up for myself if I feel crushed inside, so I didn't bother giving rhe true story.
I just carry the hurt. Eventually, at a family do she put on an act as if nothing whatever had happened!
I was glad to fly out back overseas. I've had many occasions of physical and other abuse from her over the years.
She acts syrupy toward me in front of siblings but when no one is round says, "You're a stupid bitch and it's a pity you can't actually sing!" (Because I used to be a public singer at venues and produced a CD.)
So much I've put up with.
One thing though, watching Mr. McGees videos about narcissm, helped me realise that I need to just avoid her because no amount of love and kindness from me will ever change her.
She has a good life now with a great husband and 3 grown kids, a lovely house and they had tons of overseas holidays etc. So I feel happy for her in that; at least she's not poor and living alone - so she won't miss me.
You're not alone.🙌I'm sorry 🙌 😐 but we are wonderful people and we are going to be alright! Believe me 💪💖💖💖😇
Cut them out. Block delete every root of contact. Forgive them and yourself. Move on.
Can't let them have that power, they are insects. If they're gone don't let them affect you if possible.
They’re doing horrible shady things to people so they assume everyone does those things, it never crosses their minds that they’re the only evil ones which is why they project so much. It’s pathetic. My ex will withhold money to feed his kids knowing my mother will have to help us thinking it punishes me but it just shows that he has no soul.
My husband wouldn’t buy our children cloths so I went to work so the kids and I could buy what we needed. Nowadays he says I turned the kids into latch key kids because I was selfish.
It’s funny how it’s always someone else’s fault.
My father was like this. When I won art queen for my homecoming parade, I had to beg him to buy me an appropriate dress. He told me to pay him back instead of congratulating me.
My narcissistic husband does the same thing and my mother has to help me . But he sure try’s to get supply from my daughter achievements, and the thing is we’ve paid so she can do like marching band, neck and stuff but boy he’s there for the concert. You know he never pitches in any money.
Absolutely - they judge everyone by their own standards.
"they get to feel something" that's very sad. They never developed their much needed range of emotions in infancy. Horrible mothers, who probably are ignorant and/or oblivious to the catastrophy they create.
AND horrible fathers
@@cynthiacole6140 a double whammy
This was fantastic. My life has been completely dominated by these monsters. Now that it's all over I spend hours thinking about what I should have said to them, but I was trauma bonded and all I wanted to do was keep the peace and make them happy. It's so clear now that they never loved me at all, they just loved hurting me. God bless you all xxx
They make you doubt your perception.
My mother, father, and wife were all malignant narcissists. I can't imagine how they can treat others so bad, but then I remember that they don't love themselves so how can they love others?
Hope you're doing well, there is no god, but I personally wish you well.
Me too.
That’s exactly how my wife is to me.
Sad truth, I know!
What I find ironic about narcissists is that they are incapable of controlling their need to be in control.
Wrap that one around your heads…
My malignant narcissist brother had a paranoid anger episode one night and smashed through our door in the middle of the night, screamed accusations, physically assaulted us then got arrested. He was angry and bitter not at himself, but because he was arrested with no top on and we didn’t see if HE was okay the next day. He is no longer in my life, I wish I knew what he was years ago. We all suffered so much emotional, psychological and physical abuse from him and lived in fear. You couldn’t even have a different opinion. They are like a deep dark creepy vortex wearing a fake smile
My life has been shadowed by the malignant narcissist. They came into my life at young age. Relatively short amount of time but, left the scars behind. As a consequence I have invited other narcissists into my life (unintentionally)
I now see what has happened and plan to continue to heal.
Hello Christina, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the Virus??
I was young too. They play the game anyway that has them win.
Hi Christina - that's really interesting. Have you ever had any therapy yourself, if so, did it give you any insights? I say that because narcissists often tend to gravitate towards certain types of people. Once you become aware of what they are picking up on, it can help you to form defences and heal.
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Wish I had seen this years ago
Ever try and show them how to do something. It's impossible they cannot let u teach them. How these people ever learn anything is beyond me. They must learn stuff in private then pretend it's theirs.
Right on the money. After I left my wife I got Counselling. At the end of the 1st session my therapist said to me, "From what you've been telling me it sounds like your wife is a narcissistic sociopath." Cue lots of research on my part. I wasn't even aware of Personality Disorders. This video set off a number of light bulbs with memories that echoed your video but one sticks out vividly. We had a Preschool business with 5 employees. 3 of those ladies all quit their jobs on the same day. I reckon they timed their quitting for maximum effect to stick it to my wife or else it was one hell of a coincidence. I have absolutely no doubt it was my ex wifes' Controlling, Perfectionism, Bullying, Demeaning and Superiority that led to 3 good women saying enough is enough.
I left my wife at the end of 2018. I now live about 2 miles from her and she regularly does drive byes past my house for no good reason that I am aware of and tried to Hoover me last Dec 21. I ignored her.
Being in a relationship with a Narcissistic Sociopath is very harmful to oneself. Get out, stay out and stay 200% No Contact is my advice to anyone involved with a Narcopath.
Thanks for your Videos Darren they are very helpful.
Do u share kids? This is what is keeping me as i don’t want to do that to my kids where they don’t have me.
@@jujubes570 No I don't thank God because this was my 2nd marriage and married at 53yrs. My 1st wife turned out to be a narc as well and actually abandoned me and our 3 kids to be free to screw any low hanging fruit. So I was a single parent family for 10 yrs. Happiest years of my life. Apparently if you had a narc caretaker you can gravitate to relationships with narcs. I married 2. Apparently they are familiar in a deeply psychological way. I really feel for you if you have to have stay with your narc because of the kids as they will always be controlling, manipulative etc etc. I was in the same place. In my case I went through hell in the 2 years before my wife left. I figured the more rope I gave her that she will eventually hang herself which she did. She went too far with her blatant cheating and ignoring the kids. But you can do your kids a lot of good by showing them what a healthy adult looks like. In my case my 3 kids and I are close whilst their relationship with their mum is non-existent Good luck
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As awful the situation must have been for your kids, that was a blessing that she just left. I know mine will just keep hanging around. He’s still involved in my business and I’m slowly getting him out, but meaning I’m taking on more work which is challenging bc I’m already feeling over my head with everything.
I have been doing so much work on myself. I pray i never attract this type of personality again. Looking back tho, so many of my relationships or people i was attracted to, I’m certain now, are narcissists.
Thanks for your comment.
They enjoy hurting!! They enjoy hurting for the sake of it!! It is incredible how evil they are and can punish for absolute stupid things!! When they feel ignored or offended the can even have murder onn their mind or try to drive you in to suicide!! 👀
Yes. Mine did both too. I was shocked when the mask came off. I have to believe that one day Karma will find them. Either in this life or after death. Otherwise I would feel like there's no justice. I'm really sorry for everything you've gone through. I believe you are strong to make it through one of those monsters. You got this.
Whoever feeds of negative energy - drama, chaos and pain of other people’s which they create are simply evil people and we should protect ourselves from them. Thank you.
I've justbeen blamed by my husband for the fact that he just dropped a tin of paint over our new tiled floor.. it was my fault because if I'd been painting the door he wouldn't have dropped it. I then saw him smirk when I became upset. He then denied blaming me.
Get out now. I had 20 years of that and my 55 year old son is doing it to me, blame, blame, blame. What I do say to him though is, "Oh it's my fault again" He has no answer to that. Say nothing else because that sentence let's them know that you know their game.
Get out of there asap.
It's not going to get better, only worse. The person needs years of professional help to love themselves before they can even think of you.
That smirk is evil.
Don't ever think they'll "see the light" as they relish the darkness. Narcissists cannot ever see you as a human being. Note that I said, "cannot" not "will not". These are broken souls who cannot achieve wellness, as that requires a certain humility
You have described my mother over and over again in your videos! Thank you so much for helping this 64 year old have some clarity after so many years of pain and frustration.
Me too
And us good humans (Lambs) live amongst those wolves. Thanks for another fantastic video I will watch over and over 👏
“Violates the rights of others” is what comes to my mind on the difference between a garden variety narcissist and what is worse than that. With that said, now I will listen to the content. 🤔
These people are diabolical.
They’re dangerous!!
My ex narcissist was a covert.
Everything you said about the narcissistic sociopath fits the ex like a glove. I would add that they also like trying to take everything away from you, (I am left with nothing. You have no right to anything we once shared - although it may have been yours in the first place) even if this means filing endless court cases that they will finish up losing, but in the meantime will cause stress, money problems and anxiety to the person who has dared to leave them. After months of their malicious messages you really get scared for your safety and the safety of the ones you love.
Coverts are narcissistic sociopaths. This is my ex boyfriend to a t. He is very charismatic and likable but has a dark side that is nothing like his public persona and can be sadistic, I believe he poisoned my coffee. At this point I went no contact, pathological liar serial cheater.
Mary...Yes they are..I was with Covert narcissist whom I realised after 26 yrs had almost 10 of the sociopathic traits too. I got away after 28 yrs by brutal discard from him and 4 yrs out Im still healing and damaged psychological especially and can't function just on day to day things a major struggle and low motivation so on..he keeps me as a..friend..in narcissist harem..triangulated with his Ex..only a friend again..she was with him in the 80s..its totally crazy..warped stuff..😒🙁
Coverts are THE WORST
My ex is definitely the Malignant variety...I've been fighting him in court for going on 3 years...in a case that is based upon lies. It's truly amazing what these idiots do and what they get away with
Wasting money, walk away this is what they enjoy. Don't react to him again. Stop it completely and he will go because there will be nothing for him in your relationship anymore.
@@margaretmac50 If this court case didn't involve our 6 yr old daughter whom he has tried to alienate me from, I would wipe my hands of the moron. However, I will do what it takes to protect my daughter.
Idem. they take great pleasure when they drag things out in court. It gives them power over your actions for years, they cause you financial problems and stress and this fills their empty lives. They have no remorse about building cases on full-blasted lies and they are so good at the lying game that they can charm even the court into believing them. I am in the same boat. Keep safe.
My young 9 year old nephew is clearly headed down this path. His mother is a huge narcissist, and he's her golden child. They ruined him.
I was raised by one. They like to feel like they are sovereign. I find them very interesting because they have a different flavor comparing to your average NPD. They super value loyalty, their sadism is usually a punishment of something you "did to hurt/disrespect" them, they lack empathy but then they have those causes where they have actual empathy and cry over, donate money and etc, the core is a very wounded one (my dad would always vent on me when I grew up) and they seem to be a mix of vulnerable, grandiose NPD with a shot of psycopathy. As it go for malignant narcissist fathers, they always justify their abuse as a "fatherly correction that had to be done because you were out of line" but the punishment is far greater than the crime. The household will tremble in fear but thank God and rejoice when they are in a good mood (they can be fun times). The good thing about this type is that the red flags show up real soon and you can run away fast.
The excitement over causing hurt is spot on!!! My ex used to constantly torment me for pleasure! Even if there was seemingly no “cause”. He later admitted that he would get aroused whenever I cried. Thankfully he’s out of my life! He was also constantly bored, always had to have a three ring circus without a moment of down time! He used to find thrills in such things as driving recklessly and, as a side note, was a habitual compulsive liar! He’d lie about everything, including the weather.
wow! your experiences are so similar to mine...he'd terrorize me with his reckless driving! he'd have road rage simply by other motorists being on the rode. he'd always have to be 1st, only people he wouldnt cut off was the cops..its world war 3 if you casually pass him..he'd ride drivers bumpers, take turns off highway exit ramps at a dangerously high speed, berating other drivers with insults, following drivers for a mile or so to scare them if he felt they drove a certain way to tick him off, he'd fly into a rage by devaluing me if i gently or assertively called out his reckless behavior, he'd turn up the recklessness if he read fear on my face ..an absolute nightmare! and because i stopped riding with him, he punishes me financially after nefariously setting the stage for me to depend on him financially..its a mess but im going no contact in a very short timeframe...and i cant wait.
@@creampeonies2417 wow! You’re wise to plot your escape. All the best to you.
They will lie so much that they can’t be truthful even if they wanted to. They will lie about stupid stuff that the normal person wouldn’t even think of - I guess they find it somehow empowering to themselves. Mine would use a female name on his Amazon account because he thought it would be somehow confusing to them about why a female would be buying tools and other male items. I noticed it one day and asked him why he was using the name “Sue” on his account. He said “ it’s just kind of fun to maybe make someone feel confused”. Did he really think someone at Amazon would give a crap if a female was buying tools or car parts! What twisted kind of thinking is that other than “sick”!
If I didn't have firsthand experience, it would be almost impossible for me to believe that such individuals actually exist, because the characteristics and behavior is just so far out there.
He always had a sadistic smile on his face when I was upset and crying.
Vindictiveness lasts a lifetime and beyond. They recruit others to carry on their destructive agendas 😢. Shocking to me how they can engage so many different people to go along with their narrative and carry out vengeance plans.
Some of those recruits will eventually back away from it when they see a person has involved or reported it (some don’t).
Some will back away bc they’re repulsed by the sadism or over the top abuse (it doesn’t make them look good).
And even if you didn’t make mistakes or do wrong?Theyll leave out chucks of the story that puts you into a relatable light or parts where you were wronged.
I’m dealing with it and have been for a long time and my life (and my spouses life) is pretty darn boring.
Stalking has been a factor in my life for one full decade and the worst of it the past four years or so…..
If I listed all of the things they have pulled to keep the dysfunction going (bc they enjoy chaos drama and trouble and revenge) people may or may not believe it.
I’ve read similar accounts and know I’m not the only person enduring severe stalking and basically terrorism.
Malignant or Covert seems to fit this particular mold.Their day to day lives seem to revolve around the stalking,etc.
The most excitement they’ve had in years is my watching narcissism videos and learning.
Of course,the hack and stalk devices.They’re a pack of crazies…..
7 kids and 30 years. I’ve been a victim of this. Not 99% but 100% fitting to a tee. I have no choice but to go no contact, finalize the divorce and move on to a life of nothing but peace. I pray she can find some peace in her life and some healing.
In all seriousness, I've known a few of these, including my mother. I find that people who tend to need to have one person to blame currently in their life always, tend to have other traits listed here too. For example, someone who has a co-worker or family member that they always complain about.
They always need an enemy, chaos, and an emotional punching bag- all to keep their DELUSIONAL beliefs that they are NOT the problem (although the cycle repeats itself in every single friendship, etc. over and over again.) The lack of self awareness is ALMOST impressive, for a person to be so blind to any possible self responsibility or fault in ANYTHING ever. Almost laughable if it wasn't so sad!
Same with my mom. She's a very different person around other family members. She saves the emotional and psychological abuse for me.
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@@katydid594 I'm sorry you've had to go through that.
@@aking4766 Your first sentence, particularly, is very insightful. True!
One of these was my volunteer marriage counselor. She absolutely de valued me in every sense n screamed at me while I was holding my newborn.
I have encounter one for certain and speculative about some others. In both cases, I am glad that they are out of my life.
No remorse, no empathy, no sense loyalty, and interact with you later as though nothing happened and can't understand why you are upset or haven't let it go.
It's taken me some time to get here, but it's well enough just to be rid of them.
You described someone I know perfectly. She was a "saint" who adopted five children and tortured them without mercy.
That's horrendous
I am not perfect but I wouldn't' torture my children. However I am not great with relationships but my children I love unconditionally. Why was she able to adopt ? I am staying single until I am healed from trauma. Childhood
So common with adoption. After a few years of cold, cruelty, my adopted narc parents returned me to foster care. Best thing to happen to me.
YOU HAVE CHANGED MY LIFE. I got rid of the narccasist who blamed me for his actions and tried to put me down. I threatened to take him to civil court and for some strange reason, he did not want to be taken to civil court and paid me money he owed me, but still tried to blame me. I told him what you said that he no longer has control over me, he cannot belittle me, he can't tell me what to do, he has no control and that I would show the offensive emails to the civil court. I believe this has happened before and I guess he will blame me for the rest of his life, but he can't control me know more and I guess he did not like hearing that.
My family is like this.. thank god I'm normal. 😉
Ya, I'm the normal one and had the most challenging path for sure. Yet, I would never do as they do.
When their not in control- they go out of control very easily. Been there, seen it … best advice I can give is to walk out, enforce your boundaries & go no contact if at all possible.
Thank you. My ex-wife is described in this video. I have learned that I married my mother since they were both sociopaths. And being vindictive wow! I have been divorced for 20 years and my ex still does nasty things to me. It was like I needed to go through this ugly experience in order to see who my parents really were like. I would say the sociopath is extremely satanic and I thank God that I had the courage to leave my ex.
I got married to my ex narcissist last year and within a few months of marriage I left him. Officially divorced now and honestly I have no idea how people manage to live with such people.
I split from my (now) ex wife 11 years ago. She was harassing me up until about a year ago. The divorce was long and excruciating due to her petty, vindictive narcissistic behaviour. I lost so much. I never know when she'll raise her ugly head again.
@@brakenoodle105 It is amazing how a person can be so vindictive. I believe she thinks she is entitled. I have not been in contact with my ex since our divorce and I want it to remain that way.
They hide behind religion and pretending to be perfect
Similar situation here. My husband (who resembles my mother) snapped 13 years into our relationship (close to 2 yrs ago) meaning he took his mask off once and for all. I am still really grappling with this experience. We have young kids, so i feel it’s complex and i don’t want to be without them.
Oh boy! My ex wife described to a T. We separated 11 years ago and the memories of her behaviour still haunt me. These people are like emotional wrecking balls.
My husband had an affair and when I found out he blamed me. He gets mad for the simplest of things. If I’m happy he has to do make sure I’m not. He feels that what ever I earn is his, but what he earned is his. He makes life a living hell.
What a bastard. I'm so sorry. Please get rid of him and have a good life x
You have to get away from this person, he will destroy you.
@@garryyoung8945 thankfully he moved 600 miles away and now most contact is by phone. Last conversation I had with him I hung up because he started a verbal attack. Been 2 weeks since he’s called. I don’t need the added stress.
@@robynmarler3839 thankfully he lives hours away. I found it strange that we’d be having a wonderful day and all of a sudden he’d be blaming me for something I hadn’t done. Now I figure he was actually projecting his guilt onto me. My best friend witnessed firsthand how he explodes. She told me it was him and not me causing the problem. He decided to move and live off grid in a jamboree motorhome and I stayed in the house. I’m okay living alone.
Low emotional intellect leading to low/high emotional rage?
After standing uo to my narcissistic sister her incredulous words to me-"after all I've done for you?".... she is now out of my life.
My, (late), father was diagnosed as this.
I loved him, (he was my dad), but when he passed away, I felt relief.
I’ve stopped questioning myself when I realised THE DANGER WAS REAL. “The PARANOIA that others are trying to harm them” led my father to murder my brother’s best friend at his birthday party last year. I’m now starting to believe my mother when she tells me she couldn’t leave her marriage sooner by fear for her life… I now have only 2 categories for narcissists: 1)the pitiful annoying ones and 2)the criminal ones. Will we ever fully recover from the trauma? (I’ve been in therapy for YEARS but sometimes I don’t know what recovery looks like)
One day you'll reflect and realize that you're better than you ever expected to be.
Must go no contact. Healing will feel immediate without the constant games, gaslighting and chaos.
@@bobbarker1798 thank you! I’ve gone no-contact for about 8 years now, but every now and again it hits me harder than I’d wished. He’s done some jail time for that crime and now is wearing an anklet for home detention. It doesn’t feel like a real compensation but I don’t care much anymore as long as he’s still 7.000miles away from me 😅
I know them all too well now. The first two messed with my mind pretty bad and it took me a while to heal. Now I know ow the signs and squasthem right away giving them zero power over me. The creepy grin that they give is a dead giveaway. I have learned to just ignore them and give them no time. This drives them crazy. Stay strong and stick up for yourself folks
Damn.
I Think That's What I Have...
She Put Lemon Cleaner in the Soup and Sat to Watch Our Reactions Sipping Soup.
She Drops Pins & Needles on the Carpet and Said: Those Aren’t Mine & I Didn't Do it.
Then Who Did? She Did. She's a Quilter for Charity.
Mine is a Full-Blown Covert Narc.
82 yr Old Sadistic Granny w/ a Grin.
A Cheshire Cat Grin...
The Narcissistic Smirk!
@@hissyfitz7890 Indeed
Such malice! That's part of what makes these relationships so painful. To know that someone who's supposed to love and care for you actually intends to and enjoys doing you harm. I think I understand brainwashing and the Stockholm syndrome to some degree as a result of my experience as a child.
Like any other narcissist, when the narcissist crosses the line, bring in the police otherwise the malignant narcissist will believe you are extremely weak and walk all over you and treat you like a piece garbage.
There are many cops that have same disorder. Call them with caution!
@@cynthiacole6140 Cops will also tend to side with the narcissist since narcissists are extremely good at lying. As one psychologist posted, "The worst narcissists are the ones who believe their own lies."
You should report it and get it,naming them, and why you’re filing the report.
That way,if something happens to you ? There is a history via the reports to refer to and yes use caution with police.
Their eyes turn black when they are in a rage.
The blackest eyes. The devil’s eyes
The green paint on the wall is very calming. It adds to your channel.
It's uncanny how spot on this describes someone I used to work with. They forced me out of the job and it was a bit of a relief to get away from them.
Yeah that’s it! So sorry to children of these vampires!
Thank you. I think my abusive ex might have been a narcissistic sociopath; she blamed me for her decisions and actions, cheated on me and abused me (apologies? nope my fault), and after the relationship ended she has been terminating services with no warning. (She took control of all of our assets when we separated)
What really disturbs me is her claim she wants to be 'amicable'. The letter she wrote to my solicitor was really weird, it felt like she was pretending things didn't end how they did.
She also spent the last few months before leaving drilling into my head that I was the abuser. I'm still struggling with that even though I think it was just another way to keep me compliant and quiet. The flash of rage in her eyes when I told her I wasn't accepting more criticism or requests for change because no matter how much I listened and tried it wasn't good enough was like nothing I'd ever seen before.
I had a similar experience with my ex-husband. I told him I was done apologizing for things he wouldn't get over or forgive me for anyway. He always brought up the same stuff. It didn't matter what I did, he'd never let it go. Then all the manipulating and gaslighting. I really did feel like I was the bad guy. When I said I was done, that's when he realized I was not going to be so easily controlled, and he turned up the nastiness until he was ready to discard me.
Toward the end, I sent him information about codependency because I recognized that I was. He wanted to know what happens to the other person in the relationship. The answer was right there, staring me in the face, but I couldn't make myself say it: the other person is the abuser. He probably never picked up on it, or if he did, he ignored it. He was info gathering to see what he could use against me, rather than taking that knowledge to understand me or change his ways.
If I told him he was an abuser, he probably would have hit me and then blamed me for it. His self-awareness was nonexistent.
I hope you are doing much, much better now.
Good for you, setting your boundaries. Go no contact to enjoy a peaceful life.
You have just described Amber Heard. Despite slowly being exposed as a liar, she still went to court. It’s hard to understand them. They are terrifying.
And Donald Trump. They can't believe that their lies did not pay off so they want a second attempt. AH with the decision in JDs favour and DT in not convincing all those people that he won the election and he just needed them to give him several thousand votes.
My brother is definitely narcissistic
I am married to a narcissistic, and learning so much about this. It’s true, they get off on causing, see others in pain, discomfort. I have seen the creepy smile. You think they feel and think like you( me an empath) but not, their world view and beliefs are not normal. He gets worse as he gets older, now dealing with dementia, Alzheimers. Greyrock! Little as emotional contact with them.
"me an empath" lmao
The divorced malignant narcissist with children are the most dangerous. I was kidnapped at 3. At 47, I'm still not right. But I broke the NOD, BPD cycle.
Sounds like my sister. She would laugh and look happy when attacking me or others. She’s an Evil narcissist who I showed to her face what she was, walked away and will never return.
Never remorseful - you'll never hear them say they're sorry because they aren't!
My mother and ex husband they have these symptoms 🙏🙏🙏.
Run.
They presume everyone is like them and will hit you with 100 questions accusing you of lying.
They also break promises. Nothing ever eventuates. They may as well say nothing.
The sadistic element was the hardest to deal with. The instant rage and violence from what seemed like out of nowhere. Still stalking me after my escape following a brutal rage. Challenging them through the court system or police is not an option because their focus will shift back onto me. New supply (several) is obviously not cutting it when he stalks me. I have been total no contact, but even that (after 1.5 years) does not seem to do the trick. What is the best option? I have moved many times. Blocked all social media, changed my phone number, done what I can to delete him from my life after 14 years of abuse, but it is still not enough...
And it never will be. The fact that he is still disrupting your life by all the moves and blocking etc. They want to know they can do this as reacting tells them they still have power over you. I decided I would never utter another word to him or react to anything he did and that is what I I did. I would never move or anything else. They enjoy your misery and the control they have. Don't react and they will go away.
Thriving Now - absolutely no one understands except those us that became their victim. Mine is a vile cockroach, a maggot, a blood sucking leach. Their black eyes that don't have a soul and their damn smirks. You are not alone.
Spot on! We had a guy come through our workplace like a tornado leaving a trail of destruction, employee turnaround, stress leaves and official complaints - yet now he’s the CEO and leads “management working groups” on all the causes he violated the people beneath him with (anti-bullying / employee health and safety etc. ) He ran smear campaigns in advance on everyone he targeted.
Top boss helped him squash all the complaints and push the other employees out, and thought he was the best thing since sliced bread - it was stunning and quite frankly frightening to watch. 🤷🏻
The video, audio, and content quality keeps improving with each new video! I have no doubt that this channel will continue to grow rapidly as the information and message resonates clearly with so many people. Channels such as these help SO many people across the world, keep up the great work! As a suggested topic, I think triangulation/gaslighting in a way that hasn't been covered could be helpful...such as when information is withheld or falsely created to essentially keep victims distracted enough to where they won't realize what is going on for far longer than they would otherwise. The lengths that the malignant NPD/ASPD will go to are just astounding. And super desperate. Would love to hear your take!
Tasks like unloading bricks over the side of the pick-up instead of the tailgate. Bringing in a leather sofa through the small side door rather than the double doors in the same room!
@V Or, how about unloading firewood onto a flagstone patio by throwing it down with force from above your head? Ten years after that incident, which I witnessed from a basement window without them being aware that I could see them, the mortar is, of course, cracking up all around the stones. But they wanted to give the impression of being "so helpful." Because that person is a known liar and would vehemently deny such behavior, I ran to get my video camera. I would have taken them to court for repairs to the patio. The battery in my video camera was dead!
What a wonderful thought . . . a situation where narcissism and sociopathy are comorbid. Sheesh.
My brother is a Malignant Narc and I'll be the first to say this is the absolute worst type of Narc! They are absolute hell to deal with! My brother and I are full blood siblings. He's 4 years older than me and my sister is 6 years older than me. I'm the baby. Being his sibling was absolute hell! He had signs of being a future Narc even as a kid. Was always bullying me and other kids. He was always getting into it with kids in the neighborhood and fighting. He caused behavioral problems at school, too. On into our teens, he was so rebellious. He constantly, argued with our mom. He will break the law at the drop of the hat to get whatever he wants or if he needs to get payback on someone, he feels has wronged him. I have always seen him for the scum he is and would call him out, starting around age 18 yrs old. So needless to say, I was never one of his favorite ppl because he received many "Narcissistic Injuries", via courtesy of my mouth. LOL!!! Constantly cheating on his wife and looking down on others. I can write a book about his behavior. The holidays were always so rough for me because I knew I would have to see him at Thanksgiving and Christmas gatherings. The night before the dinners, my stomach would be in knots!! I would be so anxious and tense. Having dinners with him was the worst!!! Some of you may be wondering if he has passed because I am using past tense with my verbs. No, he's still alive. When our mom passed of cancer in January 2020, I cut all contact with him. I waited until she passed because I didn't want her to die, seeing 2 of her kids not speaking. But the last time we spoke was during our mom's funeral. When I got home from it, I deleted and blocked all his number and emails in my phone. Life has never been more peaceful!!! No longer is he able to call out the clear blue and drop drama on top of me. He started a smear campaign after I cut him off. Going to every family member and telling them "Why he had to severe a relationship with his impossible baby sister and how awful she is", when he knows he didn't severe anything. Whenever he sees one of my sons, he asks them how I am doing and to tell me he said hello. You think I'm going to pen that door of communication back up? F--CK NO! Our dad calls me one day and says, "Your brother really misses you. He says he would like to repair the relationship with you. He said he doesn't know what he's ever done to you, but he's willing to forgive you and move forward cause life is short." Classic Narcissism! No accountability for nothing!! Its always the other person! Anyway, let me stop typing. I have written a book and got my blood pressure up thinking about that clown! 😂😂
Behave like toddlers, temper tantrums, creepy stalkers.
This is the best description ever. I live with this every day and I keep playing this video over and over as it helps so much to learn from experts like this. Grateful for your work Magee!!!❤
I've had almost a decade of having to deal with two separate malignant narcissistic entities and have taken the fight to them. refuse to fight fair. Be the bad man to the bad man. Use their lack of personal insight to subvert them and then gaslight them and grey rock them when they try to figure what the hell is going on. I have completely turned the tables by using strategies learned from channels such as yours.
Interesting. Would you mind giving some examples about how you did it? Thanks
Thank you for this channel.
Spot on. Excellent video!
My father and one of my brothers. There’s never a clean break due to the family network which is the main conduit for abuse and manipulation, especially via family events such as funerals, weddings, emergencies.
@@trevorjennings721 troll!
When I left my ex of 20 years, he planned what he would do he would take every penny of our joint money, take our 2 sons, leave huge debts from cash advances on cards, rented high end electrical goods sold prior to leaving the Country with the boys, leaving me devastated and responsible for credit card debt, store card debt, legal debt, none of which I paid as there was nothing I signed for. I still can't move forward 35 years ago. He ruined my relationship with the man I was going to marry by threatening him and his parents. Too much.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom and expertise!
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I'm dealing with this behaviour for 17 years. N I have alwys blamed my self thinking something must b wrong with me. May b I dont look good or did sumthing to hurt him. But no. First I tried to fix my self for him but he was never happy. N then for last 4 years I'm trying to get out of this relationship but been un able to. He coms stronger every time n mess things up for me every cruel way possible. He leaves me n make suffer n if I try to get my self togather n try to carry on with my life he comes back n ruined everything thing. I'm going crazy.. constant panic n anxiety attacks. I have also stated sttattaring. Now I know y wuld he just sit n look at me wen im having those attacks, I mean hecwud just sit emotionless n look at me. Even wen im having extreme migraine. He wuld just sit n look at me.
After my traumatic encounter with a malignant narcissicist, I began research to learn if narcissicists are possessed by demons. I also checked with different churches to learn if individual churches believe in demon possessions.
I finally reached a higher level of consciousness to understand narcissicists are watchers who dish out emotional damage to their victims. They are watching us to read our body language revealing our pain.
The fallen angels who transformed into demons are also called watchers. I can imagine them sitting back in lawn chairs & laughing & talking about how they don't have to work hurting & destroying people .... because narcissicists do all their dirty work for them.
I am presently in a stage of trying to reclaim my life, & free myself from the thousands of thoughts flooding my mind daily for years because of my rejection of lies & slander by narcissicists. ( I am a vulnerable impath, & I have only recently began to learn how to not exist like a magnet for narcissicists.)
I thoroughly understand the emotional pain experienced by other victims of narcissicist abuse. I wish all victims recoveries to reclaim their lives.
@@helenshg4580 I'm literally shook by all that I'm learning about this now. Coz I recently found out by my doctor that there is such a thing called narcissistic abuse. I cant believe that I was dealing with such a person. I mean he bought me ti the point 3 Times that decided to end my life but he did not change or showed any remorse, no sympathy. If only I knew ant thing about it I widnt have wasted 17 years. Now I feel like it's too late n the damage is done. I still want to get out of this relationship but don't know how. Feel like I'm trapped. N the worst thing is that I have 3 beautiful kids with him. I'm worried that if his narcissism I'd going to affect or damage them in any way. Shuld also try to keep the kids away from him. His relationship with is ok but evry time if he has to choose between them or him. He will choose his him. N that is affecting my kids.
Your videos have been incredibly informative and useful. This one in particular sounds like you are describing to a T someone from the ex-Jehovahs-Witness community. They are incredibly thin-skinned, have bullied and driven away many other voices in the community, and claim they advocate for survivors of child sexual abuse but see nothing wrong with cheating on their wife with prostitutes for many years (including trips to problematic countries such as Thailand). He's even turned on an ex BBC interviewer and threatened legal action if he allowed someone else to be interviewed who he wanted to silence. He's done so many things, but it's like you've summed him up in this one video.
your videos are high quality. thanks for your work
It's my grandfather. Everything but a human ...Thank You!!:))!!🌞🎁🌺🌈⚓!!
This is spot on describing my mother . Thanks a lot for your very informative videos Darren 🤗
The anger they have is way over the top! My stepson once told his dad that a “b**ch” cut him off in traffic so he followed her home and discovered that she lived down the street from him. He told his dad that he wanted to take a baseball bat and go bash her head in. When his dad told him he better not, he argued back and forth with dad, and then said he was going to throw a brick through her window. His dad tried to talk him down from that too and ended up just ending the conversation because he just couldn’t calm him down, his son was just yelling and cursing. What a sicko!
This is the narcissistic type I'm dealing with. This is the most accurate description of the narc I live with. Also, want to add that he sent my son into psychosis. The malignant narcissist is the worst!
This describes my narcissistic mother and sister. The former stills threatens to commit filicide on me while the latter enables her maliciously. They are both the covert types as well.
You’re so right about these individuals.
Great video. Unfortunately I can't seem to get the psychopathic narcissist to stop. Hopefully the FEDS do soon🙏🙏🙏🙏
Would you say a narcissistic sociopath overlaps with a psychopath? Or are they too reactive? The malignant narcissist I was raised by really got bored if she wasn't destroying someone or something, or taking over something, quite enjoyed seeing a scheme she'd been at for weeks or months or years come together to break someone. Like, she got a power rush off it. She loved demonstrating how much smarter she was than others. Also lit up like a Christmas tree with delight if she made you cry. She mimicked intense outrage if someone accused her of anything she knew to be "bad". I say mimicked, because sometimes if what she was doing wasn't working, the whole act would just switch off and she'd look at you with disdain and move on to another tactic or topic. So narcissistic, she put my older sister into foster care because she'd grown too beautiful, and my mom hated the competition more than she wanted the money she'd get if she forced my sister into sex work. Having said that, she also had intense episodes of some kind of crippling depression and manic phases too, she was once diagnosed as bipolar (the meds leveled her mood, did not change her narcissism or sadism). If there are emotions present, does that mean they aren't a psychopath? I studied her for years, while being raised by her, and in the process I concluded there was just no authentic soul present, though only God knows and I leave that with Him. But maybe by definition psychopathy and narcissism don't really work as a comorbid diagnosis? That's my question.
I made a video on the dark triad of that maybe answers your question?
@@DarrenFMagee Just watched - aww, yup! That's my dear mother. hahaha.
@@DarrenFMagee Thank you!
Pray 🙏
My neighbor has been trying to date me for a year and he straight told me he was a sociopath with narcissistic tendencies.
So far he’s actually been kind of sweet to me but I have the awareness deep down it’s superficial . They can rationalize any evil they do. I think as long as he’s chasing me I’m kind of safe. (Although I’ve heard they can get stalk-ey too. ) but oh- he has intermittent explosive disorder!! He told me that a few times. I’m sure it’ll b terrifying to witness