Woman Documents Terrifying Breakdown

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    In 2014, Kelly Ronahan developed a mysterious condition that perplexed doctors. After years of documenting this on social media, her story began to show cracks that could not be ignored.
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  • @ScareTheater
    @ScareTheater  Рік тому +330

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  • @sillygooseygirl
    @sillygooseygirl Рік тому +7749

    The thought of someone PULLING THEIR NERVE is actually the most horrific thing I’ve ever heard

    • @empressofkingfishers8656
      @empressofkingfishers8656 Рік тому +551

      just hearing about it made me want to gag. oh god just typing this out makes me want to gag

    • @EugeneBartholomewMcJigglebutt
      @EugeneBartholomewMcJigglebutt Рік тому +1

      ​@@empressofkingfishers8656seeing your comment makes me want to gag

    • @alexandragabitto2573
      @alexandragabitto2573 Рік тому +381

      (Tw: injury) As someone who had an acute nerve injury in their foot and who only has been able to recover about 98% of the feeling in said foot over a 6 month period I can barely even comprehend this. My experience was like if your foot fell asleep and then slowly woke up but it’s a bajillion times worse. I’ve never even given birth before but I instinctively knew that my initial EMG was more painful even than that. I hope this woman gets the help she needs.

    • @deathbycookies
      @deathbycookies Рік тому +233

      her case is one of the worst things ive ever read/seen on the internet and i have no life and spend all my time reading horrifying things lol

    • @GhostRangerr
      @GhostRangerr Рік тому +98

      I can't even look at the short injection being inserted in my arm for blood test, and this girl out there pulling her own nerve

  • @kittie620
    @kittie620 Рік тому +1219

    As an ex ballerina myself I could understand how her ballet career could have played a part in this. It’s a very control and body image oriented career

    • @lulululu28383
      @lulululu28383 Рік тому +123

      Also the fact you're praised for pushing the limits of your body and hurt yourself so much ...

    • @pooscifer
      @pooscifer Рік тому +49

      Not in ballet but this is exactly what I was thinking. People don't really talk about the gendered stuff that drives things like Munchausens

    • @Deathstock
      @Deathstock Рік тому +11

      Yeah, ballerinas are well known for double amputations

    • @anymoose42069
      @anymoose42069 Рік тому +1

      ​@@Deathstockis this true??

    • @lukeburton6446
      @lukeburton6446 Рік тому +5

      @@pooscifer don't think that had anything to do with her Munchausen's at all

  • @bigdaddy6670
    @bigdaddy6670 Рік тому +4233

    pulling a nerve out of your own leg?? wouldn't that make you pass out from the pain alone? Crazy how certain people with mental ilness have such an insane tolerance for pain

    • @Dr.Oofers
      @Dr.Oofers Рік тому +320

      It can really screw with you if you aren’t careful or get it taken care of. It probably cut the pain receptors or nulled them that she most likely never felt anything from it (or felt very little from it).

    • @empressofkingfishers8656
      @empressofkingfishers8656 Рік тому +214

      Just hearing about it made me want to throw up

    • @azalago
      @azalago Рік тому +300

      She more than likely had already caused substantial nerve damage to her legs and might not have even felt it. She was using a wheelchair long before her legs were amputated, she couldn't walk on her own.

    • @Corasz
      @Corasz Рік тому +88

      she said it was painful but yea she picked her skin to the bone she can definitely handle that

    • @cooldudemcswagcooldudemcsw4697
      @cooldudemcswagcooldudemcsw4697 Рік тому +17

      I want to see that video but I don’t even know where to begin seeing it

  • @sadalien9049
    @sadalien9049 Рік тому +2089

    The doctor's notes literally prove Kelly's blood was either disappearing out of thin air, or she was bloodletting. Eventually Kelly picked her legs to the point where you could see through the bones and ligaments. I've seen a lot of gore, but even I had to stop and take a breath before continuing looking at the progression of her picking. It should be known that regular skin pickers, even excessive skin pickers like me, could never pick our limbs to amputation. Kelly was on some serious painkillers and that's why she could pick literally to the bone.

    • @AJ-zv9tn
      @AJ-zv9tn Рік тому +14

      now i am curious do you have any more detail cuz i dont want to have to look myself

    • @MoonlightKayla
      @MoonlightKayla Рік тому +128

      @@AJ-zv9tn there was a video, where she actually waved her hand behind her leg, and you could see it! because she picked all around and beyond the bone 😬
      (I really hope she’s doing better now and getting the help she truly needs ❤️)

    • @yagmomru
      @yagmomru Рік тому +128

      bro did not finish the chicken wing 😭

    • @Actualbowlofsoup
      @Actualbowlofsoup Рік тому +131

      @@yagmomruDawg you did NOT just say that 😭😭😭😭💀💀💀💀

    • @geenah3139
      @geenah3139 Рік тому +40

      ​@@MoonlightKaylathis is the worst thing i've ever read

  • @muggins2279
    @muggins2279 Рік тому +582

    Her level of unwellness is seriously distressing. You have to be pretty broken inside to be a ballerina and pick your own legs off, forever deleting your entire life's work. I hope she gets help and soon

    • @getitoutofme
      @getitoutofme Рік тому +72

      I think it's definitely no coincidence that she was engaging in behaviours that would specifically make it harder for her to be a ballerina. It's almost like she was giving herself an excuse to quit without having to admit she wanted to. I wonder if the pressure was too much.

    • @user-wf3tg7bf5b
      @user-wf3tg7bf5b Рік тому +27

      ​@@getitoutofme I don't think she would've consciously and purposefully destroyed her own legs, as no sane person would've gone that far only to stop working with ballet. But perhaps she had a very low self esteem and needed people's applause and compassion 100% of the time, and her "illnesses" and her legs so happened to be the first things she could come up with and destroy.
      Now the constant need of approbation and attention may be a direct result of her being a ballerina, whilst the self-harm directed to her leg may have been a subconscious manifestation of her pain and frustrations at the exhausting amounts of stress a ballerina is put through

    • @moderndemon84
      @moderndemon84 Рік тому +4

      Time for🦿🦿

  • @lolercatz
    @lolercatz Рік тому +4401

    “Clap Nexpo’s cheeks” Wasn’t something I thought I would hear today. Thank you Eric.

  • @gooodels
    @gooodels Рік тому +3393

    this is absolutely chilling, the illness she does have seems to be far far worse than any illness she claims to have. touching a nerve would be the most extreme pain possible, even brushing it would be unbearable, so imagine literally tugging it

    • @ssteakmate983
      @ssteakmate983 Рік тому +294

      I have trichotillomania and I once got into a really bad headspace that made me start picking deep into my skin for the follicles. I got so deep I exposed a nerve and didn't realize it. I almost pulled it out but stopped because that was some of the worst pain I've ever felt in my life .

    • @gooodels
      @gooodels Рік тому +134

      @@ssteakmate983 fuck, so sorry you had to go through that shit. i really hope you're doing better now.

    • @AlisonInCT1971
      @AlisonInCT1971 Рік тому +62

      It makes me wonder if that was really a nerve she was pulling out or maybe a vein? I don't know but maybe her skin and the area underneath was already so dead from the decay that she didn't even feel it...? That's my best guess because even touching a nerve would send anyone through the ceiling. And even if she was on painkillers, they don't actually dull your physical pain, they just block some of your pain receptors and dull your mind. I am a former opiate addict and I can tell you that I've never taken an opiate that actually killed my pain. They more or less just make you not care as much. Even fentanyl wouldn't dull the pain of someone's nerve being exposed. All this to say I'm just pretty skeptical that it was a nerve she was actually pulling out...unless it was an already dead nerve. To be fair, I can't find the video so I haven't seen it. I tried, not because I wanted to see it, but because I just can't believe it. If anyone has a link though, I will man up and watch it.

    • @pgakt
      @pgakt Рік тому +36

      I think it might have been dead, she had a literal hole through her leg, you could see through it

    • @Peach-ish
      @Peach-ish Рік тому +86

      @@AlisonInCT1971 I've seen the photos. It was definitely a nerve. This video actually undersells how badly she was picking at her legs. It happened over a long period of time and slowly killed it off. It was most likely completely dead when she pulled it out. It had been exposed for a while. If you really want to see, the farms has archives of all the photos, but it's really not a good idea. Her legs literally died from picking.

  • @elbowjuiced
    @elbowjuiced Рік тому +4096

    It's so depressing that after all the evidence and self inflicted wounds nobody stopped to think about the possibility she had Munchausen's or any other serious psychological issue.

    • @brensherlock
      @brensherlock Рік тому +356

      The doctors knew, they always knew, they just couldn’t stop her from doing it. If someone wants to pick at themselves, you can’t just throw them in a psych ward for the rest of their lives. People hurt themselves on purpose all the time, and drs have no choice but to treat them. If she didn’t want psychological help, they couldn’t force her.

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya Рік тому +58

      @@MMumbles No, they couldn't. They would risk getting sued and/or arrested if they tried.

    • @PFBM86
      @PFBM86 Рік тому +125

      @@brensherlock They literally can do that. Involuntary commission to psychiatric hospitals is a thing that exists. Her doctors could have ordered her committed at any time.

    • @malachiroberts6198
      @malachiroberts6198 Рік тому +251

      ​@@PFBM86 I work in emergency health, and unfortunately it's not that easy. Getting someone committed involuntarily to long term care is a lengthy process that is next to impossible with personality disorder because they are very convincing liars. They can't fool doctors, but can fool social workers and judges and their opinions are ultimately the deciding factors. We have Munchausen patient who is in every single day and it took 6 years for involuntary commitment and less than 6 months to get released.

    • @waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
      @waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Рік тому +37

      @@PFBM86 they did once, scare theater left that out. hannah the horrible has a more in depth video.

  • @mioko2974
    @mioko2974 Рік тому +384

    The way she talks about her legs being amputated while her nubs are wrapped in the hospital sends chills down my spine. She sounds so disconnected, and out of touch with her situation. It's horrific and depressing that she didn't receive any mental treatment given she has tons of evidence of her inflicting the most severe levels of self-harm one can perform.

    • @bonbonnie8
      @bonbonnie8 Рік тому +20

      yes! i noticed it aswell, i even had the feeling that she sounded somewhat content about it. not sure about my perception there, though. anyway, "disconnected", as you put it, is certainly a fitting word to describe it.

    • @intrusive-th0t
      @intrusive-th0t Рік тому

      @@bonbonnie8 painkillers

    • @mioko2974
      @mioko2974 Рік тому +4

      @@bonbonnie8 What happened to her is a tragedy, really. There was no need for her legs to be amputated prior to the self harm. Her legs and body were not the source of problems. The medical specialists could have saved her legs and mental health if they had just realized what she was doing to herself.

    • @whatthehelliot
      @whatthehelliot Рік тому +2

      tbh that is pretty common, many amputees are very upset by having amputation surgeries and disconnection from the situation is a very common way to deal with that. also many amputees have dealt with health issues for years or even decades beforehand so they may be desensitised to surgeries or even feel relief.

  • @kaiseramadeus233
    @kaiseramadeus233 Рік тому +158

    People love to say "oh she's just seeking attention" and move on, but it needs to be said that this behavior *is not normal*. Normal people do not intentionally give themselves grevious injuries to the point where they expose their bones. This woman is severely ill and needs help. Dismissing it as "attention seeking behavior" is sickening and downplays the horrific pain she is going through in order to do this to herself

    • @giapaul7973
      @giapaul7973 Рік тому +22

      I completely agree. The severe damage Kelly did to herself is not normal and shouldn’t be dismissed. She must of been sick for a while know considering the severe damage she did to herself. Kelly does need help and I hope she’s getting it. This isn’t “attention seeking behavior” it’s self-harm. You are right claiming it’s just “attention seeking behavior” is wrong and it does down play the pain she is going through.

    • @morbidhime
      @morbidhime 6 місяців тому +8

      Attention seeking behaviour is still a cry for help, but what Kelly has done to herself is beyond that. Poor girl

  • @RuiPoppyIsa
    @RuiPoppyIsa Рік тому +982

    I'm more horrified at the lengths of self harm she put herself through. This goes beyond simply faking illness. Bleeding herself out and creating gaping wounds, excessive picking, pulling out her leg nerve. She may have been creating these terrible injuries, but trauma she was putting herself through is one thing that can't be faked. I do hope her lack of social media presence means she's getting help. She was sick. Very, very sick and I hope she's getting proper help.

    • @speakofhisgrace
      @speakofhisgrace Рік тому +1

      Sick because of torture trauma that caused everything ok this comes not from nothing

    • @giapaul7973
      @giapaul7973 Рік тому +48

      I agree with you. She was doing it to herself but the fact that she thought of it isn’t good. Just because she was faking doesn’t mean their isn’t a problem. Her faking shows their is a problem.

    • @giapaul7973
      @giapaul7973 Рік тому

      @@speakofhisgrace I agree.

    • @sinew1000
      @sinew1000 Рік тому

      I hope this case can make the general public aware that people with munchausen's are not “faking” they are extremely extremely sick and delusional

    • @babble2leeza
      @babble2leeza Рік тому +5

      I can't imagine caring about what others think to the point of hurting yourself. Or needing to have constant attention. It's very sad.

  • @munchykid4610
    @munchykid4610 Рік тому +838

    holy fuck i cannot imagine seing someone pull their nerves; this has to be one of the most fucked stories ive heard; real G for covering this, Scare Theater!

    • @Insufferarble
      @Insufferarble Рік тому +44

      Hearing that and seeing her legs being amputated. I literally feel nauseous and weak and I’m a pretty hard to phase person. Fuck that’s just abhorrent

    • @beaub152
      @beaub152 Рік тому +5

      It's disgusting

    • @munchykid4610
      @munchykid4610 Рік тому +9

      yeah, and same with what scaretheater said, like i too have my fair share of seeing gory shit but this story is utterly just... damn

    • @igitha..._
      @igitha..._ Рік тому +3

      You have nerves in your body that are smaller than can be seen on an MRI.

    • @ΆγγελοςΜορίκης-ζ2ω
      @ΆγγελοςΜορίκης-ζ2ω Рік тому +3

      @@munchykid4610 wonder how the standard, non gore hardened people fee like hearing that

  • @yh3617
    @yh3617 Рік тому +724

    "One particularly gruesome image depicts her literally pulling out one of her nerves in her leg"
    I physically recoiled just from hearing that.

    • @undeadsamurai8590
      @undeadsamurai8590 Рік тому +40

      My blood pressure from hearing it made my eyes feel like they were about to pop out. Youch

    • @aoneonyoutube1203
      @aoneonyoutube1203 Рік тому +41

      literally felt myself cringing at the mental imagery

    • @jolierichardson8683
      @jolierichardson8683 Рік тому +32

      The pictures are horrific. They can be found relatively easily. Do not recommend, lol

    • @ladyshackleford
      @ladyshackleford Рік тому +6

      Oh hell no

    • @bridflower5408
      @bridflower5408 Рік тому +27

      I never knew what a nerve looked like in real life until I saw that picture and wish I didn’t…

  • @a.evelyn5498
    @a.evelyn5498 Рік тому +72

    Her reaction to HAVING HER LEGS AMPUTATED is way more than the calmest & even chilliest (as well as chilling) that I could possibly imagine.

  • @cage8375
    @cage8375 Рік тому +114

    I want to clarify one thing since people keep asking why she wasn't committed; she was. Several times.
    She'd stay, stop harming, and get released and then go to a different hospital/doctor's office. Also maunchaseun is very hard to prove, and even if she faked 100 times, if she came in once with something real and died or as injured as a result of them not treating her, she or her family could sue. So with every new doctor there would be a whole new round of tests until they could prove she was faking, then she'd be committed again and released again.
    One of the most interesting things about Kelly is that unlike most fakers, who would pick a disease/disorder and then fake the symptoms, she would fake symptoms first and then wait for the doctors or internet to throw out guesses as to what it was before picking one off that list and THEN exaggerating those symptoms.

  • @lucxlauren
    @lucxlauren Рік тому +2263

    I’m baffled as to why they didn’t have her committed to a psychiatric facility.

    • @hull_k0gan641
      @hull_k0gan641 Рік тому +29

      You really don’t know how the system works.

    • @takemybloon1210
      @takemybloon1210 Рік тому +19

      @@hull_k0gan641how does it work? I’m sure it varies from location to location but I was under the impression that if you self harmed like this you’d be put in a mental facility, is that only for people under the age of eighteen?

    • @a3cools115
      @a3cools115 Рік тому +17

      Its Canada

    • @MSinistrari
      @MSinistrari Рік тому +36

      @@takemybloon1210 On average it's not easy under any condition for someone to get admitted into a mental facility, and even then the resources are stretched so thin that even admitted, it's not quite the level of care needed. Much of this comes from the old facility scandals topped with the closure of many state facilities (started with Kennedy and continued on until Reagan dropped the axe on the rest as far as the States go). The idea for more localized facilities tanked because many don't want a mental health facility in their neighborhood, and the idea of families providing care fails when a mental illness is so severe it's beyond the family's capability to provide care. Add to this that there are people who messed up as it is, do fake mental illness which takes up the limited resources available and make it harder for those who do actually have mental illnesses to receive needed care. Mental Health care has long been in need of a revamp, but gets caught in the quagmire of funding, people thinking of the old facility scandals when it comes to establishing new longterm care facilities, and people getting weird about such facilities getting established in their neighborhoods.

    • @takemybloon1210
      @takemybloon1210 Рік тому +8

      @@MSinistrari oh jeez, I knew mental health resources were scarce and that it can take a while to get a bed in a facility but I had no idea just how bad it was

  • @DjDeadpig
    @DjDeadpig Рік тому +1045

    It’s really depressing seeing situations like this be repeated again over and over again, of people recording either their mental or physical health declining. I hope anyone going through something like this currently gets better soon.
    Thanks for the top tier upload scare, just a reminder I’ve been here since the old Casey’s Cave days.

    • @ScareTheater
      @ScareTheater  Рік тому +72

      You're an OG

    • @catbatrat1760
      @catbatrat1760 Рік тому +6

      Casey's Cave, huh? That sounds interesting! Making a note to go check it out, see what it's about.

    • @DjDeadpig
      @DjDeadpig Рік тому +13

      @@catbatrat1760 A now lost show starring Scaretheater and his old Xbox friends on the ECWgaming/Scaretheater2 Channel. The videos were unintentionally deleted and the series is now lost media. I made a video talking about the hunt and at the time, all the info I knew. The hunt for the show has been stagnant recently, but anyone is welcome to help me by searching for it, as I’ve been wishing to relive my childhood. If the series is dead for good and it’s confirmed to be permanently lost, I’ll just leave this F in the chat here for if the show is completely unarchivable.

    • @orange-os7nh
      @orange-os7nh Рік тому +3

      Shoutout ECWGaming

    • @catbatrat1760
      @catbatrat1760 Рік тому +1

      @@DjDeadpig Awww... :( Did the people involved say anything about it since it got deleted, or are you guys on your own?

  • @EW-ed6kd
    @EW-ed6kd Рік тому +288

    I’d hypothesize that her social media dropped off not because she’s recovering, but because she can get attention offline now. Her medical issues were invisible out in daily life (both mental and self-inflicted physical). The only way to get attention over them was to post all that information and pictures online. Now that she’s had her legs amputated she gets attention every day, wherever she goes. She’s achieved what she desires. I just don’t understand why nobody in her family tried to get her psychiatric help.

    • @BrookeEvangelineWinter
      @BrookeEvangelineWinter Рік тому +9

      I believe this too.

    • @Frau.P
      @Frau.P Рік тому +40

      She didnt got any help, because her family probably caused her ilness. Thats how a family is that abused their child. I was also a severe selfharmer, i cutted until i saw a muscle, did harmed veins etc. My family did know that and when a doctor wanted to put me in a mental hospital my family refused it and sayd i am okay

    • @BrookeEvangelineWinter
      @BrookeEvangelineWinter Рік тому +2

      @@Frau.P Were you ever on tumblr?

    • @Frau.P
      @Frau.P Рік тому +15

      @@BrookeEvangelineWinter no,but on instagram with cutting pics for many years. And i regrett it

    • @be_my_druidess
      @be_my_druidess Рік тому

      i was gonna say as much.

  • @yuzurucorner
    @yuzurucorner Рік тому +94

    Something that wasn’t mentioned in this video was that she was outed to be posting about herself in the kiwi farms, exposing photos and info about herself and her family pretending to be someone else. She admitted it herself once she was caught.

    • @squashedshibber2684
      @squashedshibber2684 Рік тому +32

      Yeah every video covering her leaves out that she's manipulative and paints her as a halpless victim.

    • @russmayos3694
      @russmayos3694 Рік тому +2

      @@squashedshibber2684 As expected tbh

    • @squashedshibber2684
      @squashedshibber2684 Рік тому +8

      @@russmayos3694 mental health awareness was a absolute mistake. Now everyone who does something bad gets off the hook.

    • @MoonshineTheDragThing
      @MoonshineTheDragThing Рік тому +26

      @@squashedshibber2684 what about the innocent people with mental health problems who outnumber the bad ones?

    • @squashedshibber2684
      @squashedshibber2684 Рік тому +9

      @@MoonshineTheDragThing Bruh I have mental disorders and even I think the political strides to mental health awareness have failed exponentially. No change in the justice system or anything meaningful but instead people time and again defending those who do wrong. People no longer see mental disorders as a medical condition but a personality trait. We have fucked over mental health awareness for decades to come. Maybe you should worry about how this effects the "innocent" ones more.

  • @smorozinho
    @smorozinho Рік тому +38

    For the people who dont understand why health care workers dont act let me tell you my story. Nurse here. Years ago I looked after a woman that out of nowhere said she couldnt walk. Because they couldnt diagnose her with something they called it "chronic fatigue". After she started having " convulsions" and great pain. People around her started enable her. Everytime her partner would leave for a night out, she would be found on the floor with a head injury (she didnt even had a bump). Everytime she would be admited because she became a media star. Doctors sugested her to meet a mental health worker and she threw a fit (funny enough that day she walked away using her legs). She would sleep through the night but would set up an alarm every 4h so she could ask for oxycodone. And then one night I arrived: she was clearly high, her blood pressure was super low and the pulse below 35. She still had strengh to ask for oxycodone. Guess what? I REFUSED. I did a behaviour chart, did an incident report, contacted the night manager and reported to him about why I was refusing to clearly overdose this woman. This mad woman spent the little energy she had abusing me all night, writting on social media about how a monster I am. Next morning during my handover, my manager actually was against me. Facts. When I told her I have a duty of care and I am not paid to overdose people she kinda stopped. But do you know what protected my registration (yeah, how crazy is this)? It was all the well documented events during the night and me threatning to contact the Nursing Board. As far as I am aware this crazy woman is still out there abusing staff and all social media saying how brave she is. My point is doing the right thing can destroy your career and your life all together.

    • @Mooshmoth
      @Mooshmoth 10 днів тому

      This exactly!!! As a healthcare worker you aren’t allowed to assume a patient is faking, no matter how obvious it may be. You have to treat every symptom as if it’s a serious one or you can lose your license

  • @Dr.Oofers
    @Dr.Oofers Рік тому +271

    I’ve seen a similar case (though it might not be the same mental illness). I had a friend back in public school, who was always oddly hyper, way hyper than me (and this was before I was diagnosed with ADHD and put on meds). Something always felt off, but we became friends despite this. Visited his home, and it didn’t hit me how stuffed it was with items and things they seemingly never used (way more than mine). His brothers and sisters had the same characteristics of being hyper. Another oddity was when they visited my house, they *immediately* dashed to our pantry and looked at the food we had. Again, I was a dumb kid and never questioned nor noticed this, but my mom and grandma certainly did.
    I think it was around the start of second or third grade when he first moved to another school, never questioned it. Then he came back the next grade, but he just seemed annoying (being *that* hyper was too much for me) and kinda wanted nothing to do with him and that was the last I saw of him. Maybe one or more years pass and low and behold, his mom was arrested for child abuse. Apparently, she was purposefully starving or giving little food to her kids, putting her kids on incorrect meds, and getting them sick on purpose, so she can make posts online to gain sympathy and attention from others. Every time schools got suspicious or doctors offices wanted to run tests, she’d have her kids enrolled in another school and taken to another doctors offices for their checkups.
    Yeah, those mental illnesses where you seek attention are pretty horrible to think about, you degrade yourself, your family, friends, and/or everyone around you for attention.

    • @salh3326
      @salh3326 Рік тому +36

      munchausens by proxy, its horrific. one thing to put yourself through hell to gain attention, but your own children ? its sick

    • @igitha..._
      @igitha..._ Рік тому +21

      @@salh3326 Munchausens' by Proxy can be in both the abuse spectrum (like Gypsy Rose Blanchard) or it can be in the neglect spectrum (of the same condition). Both can be equally as harmful to the autonomy and development of a child, including adults who are children of such people. Narcissism and personality disorders with narcissistic traits can also have a hugely negative effect on the mental health, wellbeing and sense of identity and security of a child.

  • @malachiroberts6198
    @malachiroberts6198 Рік тому +320

    Munchausen syndrome is extremely difficult to treat, as most personality disorders are. It's hard to commit them, it's hard to help them, and their drain on an already overburdened health care system makes them hated by health care providers. I work in an ER and we have a resident Munchausen patient who we cannot get committed, who we are running out of ways to help, and the systematic problems are failing them and us.

    • @Macachee
      @Macachee Рік тому +9

      Let them fail then. They seem to magically get better once the attention and resources dry up. 🙄

    • @malachiroberts6198
      @malachiroberts6198 Рік тому +49

      @@Macachee I wish we could. We cannot deny treatment for any potentially deadly health conditions based on a set criteria of symptoms. They know exactly what to say so we can't dismiss them. Chest pain, blurry vision and muscle weakness and we are legally obligated to rule out stroke, heart attack, or pulmonary embolism... every single day for over a decade now

    • @nothintoreadhere6168
      @nothintoreadhere6168 Рік тому +20

      ​@@MacacheeI want to feel bad for her but these meds and doctors time that she wasted who could've gone to someone in actual need doesn't help at all.

    • @christianbenedict3983
      @christianbenedict3983 Рік тому +19

      What really gets me fuming is the amount of transfusions and transplants that were wasted on her. I've been a blood donor since I was old enough to donate, and given how undersupplied the blood and tissue banks are, I find it utterly appalling that someone who is completely healthy from a physical standpoint would allow blood and tissue grafts that could save the life of a car crash victim or burn patient to be wasted.

    • @MissSpaz
      @MissSpaz Рік тому +8

      Munchausen's isn't a personality disorder, and while it's hard to treat, it's not much harder than any other illness. Just as long as the person suffering with it wants to get help.

  • @Katarina191
    @Katarina191 Рік тому +408

    This is seriously one of the most disturbing cases I've ever heard about, if not THE most disturbing. The fact that someone can pull a nerve out of their body is unbelievable. Has she ever admitted to having Munchausen or is she still claiming that it's a mysterious disease?

    • @gooeater1544
      @gooeater1544 Рік тому +31

      Shes never said its munchausen and in most medical situations it wouldnt be technically called that. Even if she did have physical issues she definently has something physiologically going on making herself worsen the injuries :(

    • @Katarina191
      @Katarina191 Рік тому +31

      A little side note, I just could help my morbid curiosity and I had to see the nerve that was pulled out (being that I'm a medical student I was genuinely curious) and I'm kinda doubtful if that thing even is a nerve in the first place?? I've seen exposed nerves on cadavers while studying anatomy and during surgeries and nerves don't really look like that. Although, I've never seen an infected nerve, so maybe I'm wrong.

    • @thewanderingartists
      @thewanderingartists Рік тому +3

      Timestamp?? I think I missed that part

    • @user-wf3tg7bf5b
      @user-wf3tg7bf5b Рік тому +18

      ​@@Katarina191 I also couldn't help myself and looked up the pictures of the so called "nerve" she pulled 😅
      And yeah, I'm also a med student and I have never seen a nerve that looks like that. Probably because on the cadavers I've seen during classes the nerves' shape, colour and texture were affected by formalin, but idk...
      Anyways, her case is very sad... I genuinely hope she is doing better and being properly treated by a good psychiatrist

    • @JosdaharaVillalpando
      @JosdaharaVillalpando 11 місяців тому +1

  • @L_Aster
    @L_Aster Рік тому +513

    Thank you for including that last message. I’m physically disabled and it really annoys me when people look down on anyone with health issues “they caused”. If someone is going as far to pull their own nerve out, or spend years hurting themself just so they can spend hours in a hospital- they aren’t evil people tricking the masses for their own gain. They have a genuine health concern. They deserve as much compassion and understanding as I do.

    • @Gorborothh
      @Gorborothh Рік тому

      Which physical disability do you have.

    • @squashedshibber2684
      @squashedshibber2684 Рік тому

      They deserve 0 compassion. They're tricking hospitals into pouring precious resources into them and potentially could be held legally responsible for faking illnesses for money. This is the equivalent of getting hit by a car for insurance pay out but in this case, its getting paid in attention.

    • @sexygirlmax2019
      @sexygirlmax2019 Рік тому +33

      Exactly. And yet peoplenever act that way when someone suffers a health condition from smoking or drinking. Its like thats acceptable but if you hurt yourself because of trauma or you use meds to cope with the trauma suddenly youre an evil junkie who doesnt care about anything except getting high and you deserve to off yourself and not have your problems taken care of because youre selfish and dont deserve it.

    • @Pie_The_Man
      @Pie_The_Man Рік тому

      if any drama channel was covering this shit it would just end with "welp, this POS lied for attention and fame",

    • @RatKingTerry
      @RatKingTerry Рік тому +3

      @@sexygirlmax2019yes they do

  • @ruthsalazar3646
    @ruthsalazar3646 Рік тому +30

    Does anyone else remeber the tumblr blog "coldnessinmyheart"? Those sh pictures had me traumatized, especially the one where the cut is down to the girls bone. It kind of scares me how mental illness can make someone do that to themselves.

    • @stinkydoober
      @stinkydoober Рік тому +1

      I looked this up and even though I have sh before this was truly terrifying
      how does one even do thia

    • @stickynutjuicemoved959
      @stickynutjuicemoved959 6 місяців тому +1

      We still don't know what happened to CIMH. I hope she's okay but it's likely that she's no longer with us

  • @TheZackofSpades
    @TheZackofSpades Рік тому +112

    I audibly breathed a sigh of relief when it was said she stopped posting. Best sign of possible recovery. She may never recapture her appendages, but she can recapture her health. Terrifying journey.

    • @LifeCompanionDogs8083
      @LifeCompanionDogs8083 5 місяців тому

      She can now get the attention she wants offline because she's visibly handicapped.

  • @okidoll
    @okidoll Рік тому +169

    I watched this happen. One of the most disturbing and depressing things I've ever seen.

  • @GhostRangerr
    @GhostRangerr Рік тому +59

    The human brain is truly fascinating. When it's dysfunctional, It's terrifying what it's capable of making you do to your own self or others.

  • @wisdomlistens20
    @wisdomlistens20 Рік тому +16

    She stopped posting because she accomplished her goal. She was now disabled and could get babied by her family over her sister in her eyes. She didn’t need a following of the internet for validation.

  • @cassiusvoidkin
    @cassiusvoidkin 3 місяці тому +3

    My mom used to work at a Mental Institution. You would be shocked at how common this sort of thing actually is. My mom said it was usually always the young girls and sometimes they would even compete to see who could fit the most stuff, like stolen pens, into their wounds.

  • @sourgreendolly7685
    @sourgreendolly7685 Рік тому +17

    Not "clap Nexpo's cheeks" 😭😂
    I can't with your humor dude 🤣

  • @hannahrya
    @hannahrya Рік тому +52

    My suspicions were raised the second you said that they discovered this “condition” at a routine blood test. If her iron levels were genuinely down to ZERO, she would be blue in the face, if not already dead. Crazy story

  • @ImOvervalued
    @ImOvervalued Рік тому +169

    This one is pretty sad, the irreversible damage she suffered mentally manifested itself physically. I've been subbed for like 8+ years so I'm glad to see you going strong, thank you!

  • @pandapuke
    @pandapuke Рік тому +124

    I think her story is a testament to the fact that "attention-seeking behavior" should not be dismissed. Normal, healthy people do not feel the need to seek constant attention. Even though she wasn't physically sick, she clearly needed so much help. On other notes thank you for the great content as always :)

    • @pandapuke
      @pandapuke Рік тому +1

      @@rdytocookup didn't say that lol but ok

    • @rdytocookup
      @rdytocookup Рік тому

      @@pandapuke maybe phrase ur shit better

    • @rdytocookup
      @rdytocookup Рік тому

      @@PrincessMeganLeigh nigga really said "yuppers" im crine

    • @giapaul7973
      @giapaul7973 Рік тому +2

      I agree. She definitely needed help. Physically she wasn’t suffering but in the inside she was. Attention-seeking behavior is a problem and can become dangerous for the person like in this case.

  • @danielx555
    @danielx555 Рік тому +69

    I feel like she had some delusional symptoms in addition to the attention seeking.
    I also think that her history of being a ballet dancer is significant. To be a high level ballet dancer, you end up looking at your body like an object that you have to control with willpower. A lot of dancers come out of the experience with a really disordered experience of their own body.

    • @Messwithmitchie
      @Messwithmitchie Рік тому +16

      The culture around ballet is not healthy eating disorders are common

    • @onionbubs386
      @onionbubs386 9 місяців тому +1

      Plus you have to start at a very young age and spending gratuitous hours practicing in a very competitive and abusive environment. I don't doubt that had she never been in ballet, she wouldn't have ended up so mentally ill.

  • @ElectrifiedBacon
    @ElectrifiedBacon Рік тому +55

    you could litteraly see *through* her legs prior to amputation
    and damn, that update video after the amputations were unneveingly calm and upbeat

  • @TheWTFbomber
    @TheWTFbomber Рік тому +41

    It’s always scary seeing the collapse of someone unfolding on video

  • @WhereTheBeaversLive
    @WhereTheBeaversLive 4 місяці тому +3

    I live in the same town as her and would see her periodically at a park near my house shortly after she had the amputations. It was so sad, but she looked happier.

  • @JudelovesRiver12
    @JudelovesRiver12 Рік тому +11

    I remember the first time I heard about this, it totally ruined the rest of my week. It took a while to get a lot of it out of my mind. I was nervous to proceed forward with this video.. I appreciate you covering this case with tact. I hope Kelly is doing well.. this story is so sad. 💔

  • @sharpnicolecatherine
    @sharpnicolecatherine Рік тому +17

    As someone that's struggled with sh in the past, I still can't fathom the emotional pain she must have been dealing with to need this horrific coping skill. I really hope she's doing better now

  • @shadownetwork
    @shadownetwork Рік тому +15

    The one in the video isn't Kanye's account. His real instagram account (when it isn't suspended) rarely has any posts. He posts every couple of months and it's been like this for years. Even a true narcissist doesn't feel the need to post every day

    • @MissSallyB1
      @MissSallyB1 Рік тому +2

      also doesn't he have a habit of deleting shit?

  • @austinclowers4900
    @austinclowers4900 Рік тому +14

    Hearing 'pulled the nerves out of one of her legs' literally made my entire body tense up and shiver, holy hell.

  • @jokuvtyyppi3261
    @jokuvtyyppi3261 Рік тому +38

    Im going to sleep in 30 minutes i shouldnt be watching this

    • @EggmondChad
      @EggmondChad Рік тому +3

      It’s like 2:30 pm for me 😂😂

    • @froufroudeluxe
      @froufroudeluxe Рік тому +3

      yes you should

    • @Sullarko
      @Sullarko Рік тому +3

      R.I.P sleep schedule

    • @sae9362
      @sae9362 Рік тому

      Do it anyways (⁠*⁠´⁠ω⁠`⁠*⁠)

    • @dirt5913
      @dirt5913 Рік тому

      It's now your bedtime

  • @synthesizedjunk
    @synthesizedjunk Рік тому +19

    I remember seeing this story on r/illnessfakers. People were genuinely concerned about how far she had fallen. I have a strong stomach, but what she did to her legs. Holy shit.

  • @masonbruner1239
    @masonbruner1239 Рік тому +20

    Most of the time whenever I see a "don't search these images!" disclaimer I just kinda roll my eyes and let my curiosity take me wherever it so desires. This is the first time I've whole-heartedly regretted it. The images I saw were harrowing and it is terrifying to believe that it was all self-inflicted

    • @vk01221
      @vk01221 Рік тому

      Same here. I can’t get those images out my head.. it was graphic

  • @happyskull2345
    @happyskull2345 Рік тому +123

    I've been following this story for a while and I still can't believe she actually went through the amputation.

    • @Roadent1241
      @Roadent1241 Рік тому +8

      I can. People think we live cushy lives. They will happily transable themselves thinking it's reversible.

    • @user-pipis
      @user-pipis Рік тому +33

      @@Roadent1241 I dont thank thats what happened here-

    • @nekojen9
      @nekojen9 Рік тому +57

      @@Roadent1241 transable? We? What? Stop using buzzwords that don't relate. Her legs literally rotted and NEEDED to be amputated, recommended by the doctor.

    • @Roadent1241
      @Roadent1241 Рік тому +4

      @@user-pipis Well sorry I don't feel sorry for her intentionally messing herself up and ending up in our hated bubble of the world. Best to luck to her, hope she has fun.

    • @Roadent1241
      @Roadent1241 Рік тому +5

      @@nekojen9 I'm disabled myself so my lot is 'we'.
      She forced them to rot by picking at herself so by that logic she willingly transabled into a cripple. Hope she enjoys the life people hate to support. Scooters and wheelchairs are not cheap and neither are home renovations to accommodate.
      And I only have naff all hearing in Britain and have seen how we're treated.

  • @denied9
    @denied9 Рік тому +82

    I’ve seen people being shot dead on video before but just hearing the words ‘pulling out one of her nerves’ actually horrified me, good god I can’t visualise what that looks like but I can imagine the sheer pain of it

    • @thegameglitcher2439
      @thegameglitcher2439 Рік тому +9

      Well based on what I remember of anatomy class it probably looked like her pulling up a bloody thread from her leg. That being said, the context of what it is makes it horrifying, and I also can’t imagine what it felt like.

    • @Macachee
      @Macachee Рік тому +2

      It was probably dead.

    • @denied9
      @denied9 Рік тому +1

      @@thegameglitcher2439 aaaaghhhhh

    • @edward3220
      @edward3220 Рік тому +1

      I kind of believe it may have been dead considering the extreme amount of her leg picking which could be why that was able to happen because seeing the photo of whatever came out, it looked decently real but i dont even know anymore

    • @Messwithmitchie
      @Messwithmitchie Рік тому

      @@thegameglitcher2439I’m gagging

  • @abby-sw3ht
    @abby-sw3ht Рік тому +43

    when i was a cashier in highschool kelly and her caregiver would shop in the store and occasionally would come through my till, I've seen the wounds, and one day she showed up with no legs and her skin was yellow,, ive always felt very bad for her but when i saw ppl releasing videos it all made sense, i hope one day she can get the mental and physical help she needs :-( besides munchausen it must be really scary for her and she probably feels a shit ton of guilt, some of her issues are true but she never injected feces into herself and was a picker, not a good mix when you already have complex trauma :/

  • @Ethan-ee8rv
    @Ethan-ee8rv Рік тому +6

    I imagine someone who hasn’t heard this story hearing “this wasn’t a physical battle but a mental one” after seeing her amputated legs being very confused…

  • @thatsiciliankid
    @thatsiciliankid Рік тому +57

    She CLAIMS to have pulled a nerve, but in the pictures she shares with the world, it’s arguably not a nerve that she’s speaking about.

    • @rdytocookup
      @rdytocookup Рік тому +1

      you seen it? link?

    • @znvsm
      @znvsm Рік тому

      what is it

    • @igitha..._
      @igitha..._ Рік тому +28

      @@znvsm Probably skin tissue. Though nerves can be microscopic, main nerves are much deeper and it's unlikely she would be able to make contact with a main nerve route or stellate ganglion nerve center without making herself pass out or throw up from the pain.

    • @edward3220
      @edward3220 Рік тому +6

      ⁠​⁠@@igitha..._there are photos of her have had picked through her entire leg that gives full view though if they are fake, they do look pretty real cant lie

    • @znvsm
      @znvsm Рік тому +24

      @@igitha..._ i’ve read on other comments that she was prescribed and taking several painkillers a day- that’s how she was able to cause her legs so much damage

  • @mopedgubbe1059
    @mopedgubbe1059 Рік тому +73

    This video about a womans descent into mental illness and double amputation really inspired me to put in an order for hello fresh using your code! Something about self harm and tugging on your exposed nerves really gets me hungry 😊❤

    • @blueringoffire
      @blueringoffire Рік тому

      Gotta sell your soul for that 💰 somehow… I’m sure it’s ok with him bcus hey… Almost everyone.. almost everyone does it so🤦‍♂️
      Integrity is almost Impossible to find especially when someone relies on social media for their money… dirtiest blood money there is. The Only excuse to do this is greed … bcus the other is being a POS for entertainment ❗️

    • @mopedgubbe1059
      @mopedgubbe1059 Рік тому +23

      @@blueringoffire I think showcasing someone's genuine mental health decline in the lazy way this person is doing it, while also tacking on a hello fresh ad read, IS being a POS for entertainment.

    • @mopedgubbe1059
      @mopedgubbe1059 8 місяців тому +1

      @111rising thanks!

  • @cyrus909
    @cyrus909 Рік тому +17

    its like a really really intense case of dermatillomania. i have a similar thing, though not nearly this bad, but something about your brain blocks out the pain for a little, especially for people with manic episodes. i remember hearing about this woman and saw all those photos (ew) back in 2020, so i didnt know she got her legs amputated. i really hope shes doing well now, as an identical twin with a bunch of mental issues :D

  • @trahouston
    @trahouston Рік тому +10

    I don't think that he knows what clapping someone's cheeks means.

  • @amandamccallum6796
    @amandamccallum6796 Рік тому +11

    Mental illness can be very scary, she did need medical attention just in the psychiatric ward instead of blood transfusions.

  • @devilord3271
    @devilord3271 Рік тому +146

    Honestly the most frustrating part of this is how much blood was wasted on her, 3 donors worth of blood every 2 weeks?!

    • @user-qjvqfjv
      @user-qjvqfjv Рік тому

      Yeah, she should have been euthanized. What a waste of resources.

    • @MANJYOMETHUNDER111
      @MANJYOMETHUNDER111 Рік тому +12

      It wasn't wasted. She needed it to survive. You just think people with mental illnesses aren't 'really' sick and deserve second class care.

    • @devilord3271
      @devilord3271 Рік тому +75

      @@MANJYOMETHUNDER111 did you miss the part where the doctor found there was nothing wrong with her blood when they tested it unexpectedly and her "illness" was mysteriously cured after she stopped getting attention for it?

    • @MANJYOMETHUNDER111
      @MANJYOMETHUNDER111 Рік тому

      @@devilord3271 Did YOU miss the part where there were clear signs of untreated mental illness which caused the bloodletting? Or are the mentally ill second class citizens with fake illnesses to you?

    • @Nightcore_Paradise
      @Nightcore_Paradise Рік тому +7

      @@devilord3271 She may not have been physically sick but that doesn't mean she wasn't in life threatening danger at that time. She needed psychological help.

  • @sordidsentinel
    @sordidsentinel Рік тому +4

    I'm so glad to see someone covering this. I stumbled across her content a while back on a certain forum of exceptional individuals and witnessed some of this as it actually played out. Was one of the most messed up things I've ever witnessed online.

  • @ollieminecraft
    @ollieminecraft Рік тому +34

    Hey, ScareTheater/Eric! YOU HIT 1 MILLION SUBSCRIBERS! I've been waiting for this day for a long time. I always thought to myself, WHEN WILL IT HAPPEN? Well, today's the day. Celebrate this milestone, and congratulations!

  • @mandala314
    @mandala314 Рік тому +14

    Side note: It is possible to get stuck with a horrible doctor, but there are local and state patient advocacy offices you can ask for help.
    Once I had a new doctor un-diagnose me from several things and cancel my prescriptions despite valid testing and the hospital board wouldn't allow me to switch doctors. The patient advocates helped me, I'm grateful! It's been a year of recovery and my new doc is awesome, I'm getting back to normal. (This stuff happens to Medicare/Medicaid patients more often, no money to switch)

  • @hunnybee_
    @hunnybee_ Рік тому +7

    the fact that your brain can make you do stuff like this to yourself is absolutely terrifying & incredible. 😰

    • @cricketandgraham8644
      @cricketandgraham8644 Рік тому +3

      it legit scares me, this world is *dangerous* :(

    • @giapaul7973
      @giapaul7973 Рік тому +2

      I agree. Any issue with the brain can cause problems.

  • @captainsarcasm1567
    @captainsarcasm1567 Рік тому +5

    I'm sorry how in the SWEET HELL do you pull out a nerve?! Not only do I imagine it being the most disgusting thing in the world but it HAD to have been painful!

  • @froufroudeluxe
    @froufroudeluxe Рік тому +773

    Honestly this story is really sad. And the fact kiwifarms only laughed at her doesn’t help

    • @ScareTheater
      @ScareTheater  Рік тому +344

      Yeah, I didn't like the way kiwifarms handled the situation, which is why I didn't really mention it in the video.

    • @veryfunnyguy4991
      @veryfunnyguy4991 Рік тому +20

      ​@@ScareTheater thank you for makeing videos while I was in the darkest point of my life

    • @veryfunnyguy4991
      @veryfunnyguy4991 Рік тому +17

      ​@@ScareTheater Also congrats for reaching one mil subs

    • @AndrewDevourer
      @AndrewDevourer Рік тому +46

      Kiwifarms is still up on an onion site, and it has a lot of good content for this channel documented there if you are willing to dig through the sludge. Geno Samuel even uses it as a primary source on some occasions in his docs

    • @thebrightdiamondtp7871
      @thebrightdiamondtp7871 Рік тому +57

      They usually laugh at people who aren’t “born normal”. That’s why the site is mostly associated with people like Chris Chan.

  • @kyoyo9350
    @kyoyo9350 Рік тому +35

    I used to follow her story. The photos are way worse than you'd imagine. The nerve isn't even the worst part to me. The photos get to the point where both of her legs start to necrose and there is exposed bone and huge holes straight through her legs from her picking. It's absolutely grotesque and I'll never understand how she could do this to herself.

    • @speakofhisgrace
      @speakofhisgrace Рік тому +9

      Trauma you should ask your self what needs to be done to a soul to get to this point. She's a victim even as a self harmer it's a trauma response.

  • @hannahcrowder3654
    @hannahcrowder3654 Рік тому +11

    I hope she's in therapy and I hope she is okay. Hearing this story made my chest feel so heavy

  • @Fairy_Teeth
    @Fairy_Teeth Рік тому +21

    I just hope she gets better no one deserves to suffer like that , especially if it’s self inflicted because the mental suffering is so painful I truly hope she gets support she needs and the joy she deserves

  • @1MykHyn
    @1MykHyn Рік тому +8

    ScareTheater is the first UA-cam channel I ever followed when I was looking for 'urban UA-cam myths' and 'scary mysterious UA-cam videos' back when I was much much younger 😂 Thanks for all your years of keeping us suspensed and up late at night. Much love brother ✌️

  • @oh_hi_andre2379
    @oh_hi_andre2379 Рік тому +3

    So I found the images while in my own rabbit hole couple months ago and only got part of the story. I was grossed out but disconnected since I knew basically nothing about the story. I stumble on this video by chance and I genuinely can say I’m disturbed now, the feelings I should’ve felt seeing the photos initially have finally came

  • @ragewolfofodin
    @ragewolfofodin Рік тому +17

    Some stuff is so disturbing don't look them up. No matter how curious you are you will never forget it.

  • @armhand97
    @armhand97 Рік тому +2

    The nerve-pulling description reminded me of that one episode of Ren & Stimpy called “Ren’s Toothache”

  • @mandala314
    @mandala314 Рік тому +2

    If you see "spoonie" in anyone's posts - search "spoon theory" it was originally to explain the specific fatigue from myalgic encephalitis/fibromyalgia. BUT over the years i see it used more & more by anyone with chronic "mystery" illness. Muncausen's patients use the spoonie label to reach the most people. I hate that

    • @tashamott
      @tashamott Рік тому

      not once have i ever seen it with someone who doesn’t obviously have muchhausens by internet.

  • @barbicud
    @barbicud Рік тому +68

    You did it! 1 million! Been watching for years so it's great to see you succeed. If you ever need any fitness advice for your match hmu champ and don't sleep on massage therapy for recovery! Again man congrats. Really proud of you.

  • @casuallyceltic
    @casuallyceltic Рік тому +148

    I think what makes me the most mad about this is that she can, potentially, fake all of this and get all of this attention whereas someone like my mother had to struggle for 3 plus years just to get a rheumatoid arthritis diagnosis because doctors were convinced her issue was that she's fat instead of, y'know, having an autoimmune disease.

    • @squashedshibber2684
      @squashedshibber2684 Рік тому +26

      Freaking thank you!! First sane comment i've seen. I have the same disorder and a few outers and I struggled just to get medication for it and these people can just drain medical resources from those who are actually sick. No sympathy.

    • @MrsStormtrooper
      @MrsStormtrooper Рік тому +10

      It only goes to show how precarious the collection of patient history is, because if randos online could come to a Münchhausen conclusion, so could a doctor if he was interested in investigating it instead of entertaining the possibility of super rare random disorders

    • @localvoidlander8093
      @localvoidlander8093 Рік тому +46

      ​@@squashedshibber2684 mental health is just as significant as physical

    • @sexygirlmax2019
      @sexygirlmax2019 Рік тому +44

      Youre looking at this the wrong way. You should be mad that she never got REAL help, which she needed severe psychiatric help, AND you can be mad that the American Healthcare System is so fucked up that your mom went through 3+ years of bullshit just to get her RA diagnosed. My doctors thought the same thing. turns out ihave fibro, pots, gastroparesis and hypermobility

    • @casuallyceltic
      @casuallyceltic Рік тому +1

      @@TheRealQueenCobra Wouldn't that be nice? To clock the level of care you're going to get from a doctor and just be able to pick whichever one you want.

  • @NicoleMoriel
    @NicoleMoriel Рік тому +15

    I’ve been through a similar experience as her, and unfortunately a lot of this does stem down to childhood abuse, neglect and I’ll include violence too. We know SOME form of this took place in her childhood.
    Everyone self harms for different reasons, but I always thought I genuinely deserved it. I sense some part of her felt that she did too. Maybe I did want the attention back then, because the people who raised me made me feel like I was a child of Satan. (I grew up as a Jehovah’s Witness, I’m agnostic now) Deep down, I think some small part of me knew I wasn’t. At the same time though, I felt like I was, and I needed the validation from a kind and empathetic human being to understand me before I could ever open up. When you grow up with neglectful abusive parents, it can be tough. I still acknowledge they did their best, and I love them to death, but it fucked me up in so many ways.
    The experiences in your childhood really have the potential to set a scary foundation for the rest of your life. It’s a complicated situation.. it took me 6 years to recover. (I started going to therapy when I was 18 and now im 24.)
    I’m just extremely grateful for every friend I’ve made along the way. Especially those from my childhood who, for some reason, never left.. and are still by my side to this day. They are beautiful people.
    My mom passed away last month, and even though I just turned 24, I’ve undergone this battle with fighting suicidal tendencies since I was 5. Her passing was what ultimately allowed me to accept this part of myself. Intellectually, I always knew these were the reasons.. but it takes a very long time to emotionally let yourself accept them.
    I love and miss her so much and I only wish I could tell her that I know she never intended to do any of this to me.
    So please, take care of the people around you. Don’t talk to people with malice. You never know what they may be going through.
    Edit: I feel the need to share my story so that it may be hopefully easier for some people to understand hers, or any people around you. I was very private about my illness and only spoke to 4 people about it until this point, right now, of my life. I promise I’m not looking for sympathy

  • @Ben-0
    @Ben-0 Рік тому +1

    Concgratulations on 1 million subscribers! I have been watching you since 2016.

  • @amelcr
    @amelcr Рік тому +11

    I’ve seen the several dozen pictures of the literal decay of her legs and they’re genuinely horrific. There was one where you could see her nerves and bone in her thigh. To do that damage to yourself, you have to be severely mentally unwell!

  • @diddykong2143
    @diddykong2143 Рік тому +17

    Mental illness is terrifying. Just the thought of your mind and body decaying is scary.

    • @igitha..._
      @igitha..._ Рік тому

      like Motor Neuron Disease - but that's not a mental illness.

  • @ChurchoftheLatterDayShrek
    @ChurchoftheLatterDayShrek 11 місяців тому +7

    This was supposed to be scare theater not depression theater

  • @paxtoncargill4661
    @paxtoncargill4661 Рік тому +9

    my brother had an actual mystery anemea case. it took multiple doctors and hospitals to find out he needed a bone marrow transplant. Lukily the VA was able to pay for it and he's much better.

  • @PogoYTG
    @PogoYTG Рік тому +1

    Congrats on 1 Million Subscribers! Crazy accomplishment!

  • @val71999
    @val71999 Рік тому +11

    this is genuinely one of the scariest things I've ever seen, and I had unrestricted internet access as a kid

  • @ezzyvalentine4295
    @ezzyvalentine4295 Рік тому +34

    Her case was followed in GREAT detail on reddit's illnessfakers subreddit. I went down the rabbit hole and it was brutal

  • @sham9505
    @sham9505 Рік тому +4

    I know this is a few years old, and other people have done videos on this topic, but do you think you can do a video on Bianca Devins?

  • @xXMACEMANXx
    @xXMACEMANXx Рік тому +11

    As someone with an actual, life long autoimmune disorder, these stories make me furious. Faking an illness to such extent, wasting countless man hours and resources for attention
    The amount of blood she WASTED alone could have saved countless lives. Her mental illness is no excuse for this behavior

  • @sunseraph1919
    @sunseraph1919 Рік тому +13

    Imagine yourself donating blood, thinking that you’re gonna save someone who was in a car accident or just someone who accidentally lost a ton of blood. Thinking that you will give someone a second chance at life. And instead, your blood goes to this absolute nutcase who can’t stop self-harming.

  • @MrCarlBackhausen
    @MrCarlBackhausen Рік тому +6

    As someone that has had a unexplained anemia and a horrible auto-immun disease I had since birth. Seeing someone fake this for attention is extremely upsetting. Healthy people that want to be sick is the sickest disease to me. Truly unreal imo. I will say that it is incredibly suspisious to me that she was so attention hungry and active if she was this sick for those years.
    I was barely able to stay conscious for more than a few hours a day during my latest bout of the anemia I had. That makes her seem unbelievebly suspicious to me personally, there is no way in hell you could be this active if you hade below 100 hb levels for weeks at a time. I was worse off than her though, needed more than double her does of blood over about 3 years.
    Haven´t seen the whole video yet, just paused it to write this. So far you have hinted that she possibly wasn´t being honest about actually being sick. I sure don´t think so when you see her in the interview and if she was that active on social media during the whole ordeal. As I said, I could barely stand for more than a few seconds at a time and was asleep for most of those 3 years combined. I was worse off than her though, I needed well above double her blood amount during my 3 years. And that is me being quite under appreciative to be sure that I didn´t exaggerate.
    Maybe I am wrong, but context seems fishy so far.

  • @daitsy2476
    @daitsy2476 Рік тому +6

    Ive never cried from pain until i had an exposed nerve from a tooth that even when air touched it it literally had me on the floor in absolute agony wanting to die to make it stop, I cant imagine purposely touching it or pulling on it.

  • @jonniemayhem
    @jonniemayhem Рік тому +59

    Yeah this one was crazy, you've missed a lot while you were gone. And she didn't need to lose her legs if she'd have stopped picking

    • @rydz656
      @rydz656 Рік тому +3

      She was clearly touched funny when she was younger.

    • @Aria23331
      @Aria23331 Рік тому +33

      @@rydz656 “touched funny” Wtf

    • @Anonymous-bi5pv
      @Anonymous-bi5pv Рік тому +8

      ​@@rydz656???? Bro what do you mean by this? What does that have to do with anything...

    • @snood4743
      @snood4743 Рік тому +15

      ⁠@@Anonymous-bi5pv
      At the end, there’s a doctor’s note that says she had an extensive history of sexual trauma, but “touched funny” is the least appropriate way to phrase that.

    • @rydz656
      @rydz656 Рік тому +2

      @@snood4743 A few minutes of digging and it turns out both sisters were throughly diddled by multiple family members growing up. I was right. Please grow up guys and do better.

  • @giapaul7973
    @giapaul7973 Рік тому +1

    I feel as a society we need to take mental illnesses seriously. Faking a mental illness is a issue in itself. Mental illnesses don’t go away on their own, treatment is needed. As a society we should encourage people to get help. It’s better to go to a doctor and find out your fine than not go to a doctor and struggle.

  • @chrisbarbz9238
    @chrisbarbz9238 Рік тому +2

    I like your breakdowns. Non inflated especially no over dramatic music.

  • @samv.3217
    @samv.3217 Рік тому +12

    I think the scariest part is that this all started 10 years ago. This was a decade long nightmare. Just think of how much changed thoughout that time, and add what she went through on top of that.

  • @spencercarroll972
    @spencercarroll972 Рік тому +7

    I feel bad for all of the blood donors

  • @undyne1
    @undyne1 Рік тому +8

    The more times I hear this story, the more I wonder why no one intervened and gave her the mental health care she needed. It's a shame that she can't do ballet anymore, but it's also a shame that she wasted medical resources to help her get physically better.
    It's fucked that her legs were so far exposed that you could see right through them, but it's even more fucked that she went as far as pulling out her own nerve. I can only hope she's doing better now off the internet and isn't mutilating her body further. This saddens me.

  • @zorya.4677
    @zorya.4677 Рік тому +1

    I seriously feel like vomiting and seriously feel faint. This is just horrific

    • @zorya.4677
      @zorya.4677 Рік тому

      Ftr I almost did faint while watching this. I've never had such an experience from watching a video. Congrats, Scare Theater...you've managed to get a seriously frightening response out of me!

  • @konig4765
    @konig4765 Рік тому +4

    Attention is one hell of a f*cking drug…

  • @zephyrwlf
    @zephyrwlf Рік тому +28

    I love how everyone else tiptoes around what Kelly did and makes it clear that they aren't sure whether or not she did this to herself andaybe she had actual health issues and scare theater is over here all 'LOOK WHAT THIS LADY DID TO HERSELF'

    • @user-pipis
      @user-pipis Рік тому +21

      @@dunewyrm3071 girl what

    • @perhapsitsnoelle
      @perhapsitsnoelle Рік тому +21

      @@dunewyrm3071ah yes, every month we pull our nerves out and cook them. its just a girly thing

    • @queenkaitttt
      @queenkaitttt Рік тому

      @@perhapsitsnoelle lol this comment 😅

    • @Macachee
      @Macachee Рік тому +1

      …no?? Everybody knows she did it to herself! Lol what are you talking about??

    • @aj-wk3hz
      @aj-wk3hz Рік тому +1

      @@Macachee i think they mean mentally, obviously she physically did it herself but mentally she wasnt stable (obviously)

  • @Wnick1996
    @Wnick1996 Рік тому +28

    Just looking at her image in the thumbnail gives you the idea that something is wrong with her. Heard about her before, and it's truly a sad tale

    • @Krisinger
      @Krisinger Рік тому

      Yes! There is something in her eyes, like her gaze... She has the eyes of a severely sick person, I've never seen anything like it. She's not ugly by any means but the way she looks is just... Unnerving.

  • @igitha..._
    @igitha..._ Рік тому +2

    Alarmingly, against your narrative, she may have actually contracted an autoimmune or condition through the blood transfusions, and the first blood test may have been incorrect. Blood counts can change, too. Her time of month may have been a factor in her iron count, however if she was truly anemic or sub-type anemic due to blood iron levels being non-existent she likely would have also had severe hair loss.
    Autoimmune conditions can occur simply through molecular mimicry utilized in vahxinations. One of the donors may have had viral epitopes in their blood and not known it.
    All her time in hospital may have impacted her vitamin D levels. Vitamin deficiency and malnouraishment can play a large role in mental health. The stress may have impacted her methylation, or the donors blood may have been more methylated than anyone realized. She likely had dermatillomania, a condition describing skin picking, which was obviously ignored by the doctors and should have been treated.
    Without multiple-confirmed verification, calling this woman someone who has Munchausens' sans true evidence from multiple doctors and specialists, it's dangerous and may be even more detrimental to her health.
    Unless you've been through the medical merri-go-round it's difficult for people to understand just how mishandled and garbled so many patients, as well as their files, are.
    I've had doctors write in letters that I'm allergic to things that I'm not, they literally just made it up without any further tests or verification! I had doctors that didn't know what they were looking at because they _literally aren't trained to know what my condition is_ ! It's not in their handbooks, when it should be! There are literally thousands of conditions that doctors are not trained to be aware of, as well as conditions that go by multiple names internationally which doesnt help medical staff, patients nor the public to have a better understanding of what could be wrong.
    I personally have complex diagnoses partly because of a head on hit and run collision that the guy who hit me was never found, and have been shocked and very upset at the things doctors have put into letters that isn't even anything to do with me. The medications I've been prescribed that have made things worse not better.
    The insistence of doctors for me to continue on medication that is well known to be dangerous. The stringing along and the gaslighting. Not being told the whole story by them so I can't treat myself properly. I've had friends be implanted with spinal cord stimulators where the wires have moved and batteries have been faulty and they need to go back to surgery and not move for 8 weeks again. My mother went to hospital for a hysterechtomy and the surgeon got a hole in her bowel and they didn't notice for two weeks - she died twice came back twice and then when she regained consciousness and asked a nurse for a tissue the nurse threw (hard) the box of tissues at her.
    I've heard of other people that have accidentally been given other people's diagnostics and medical staff misreading charts. Some doctors like to dish out diagnoses because it feeds their ego. When you have been active and mobile the way a dancer is, no dancer would opt to get rid of their legs unless there was no other choice. The supposition of Munchausens is just that - there is no confirmation of her diagnosis and to presume as such is a legal liability. For all you know, this poor woman could have been an experiment. It would certainly not be the first time in medical history !
    There is both possibility and probability that the woman in this video was also mismanaged as so many people are by the medical system, and that her mental health ailed as a result of the mismanagement and maltreatment she received.
    Oh and don't forget where psychiatry began in history and how it blossomed. There's a nice rabbit hole to dive in to.
    A carer's friend who worked at a psych ward for 30 years left her job when she realized it's not psychological or psychiatric, it's spiritual.
    And if you think the Hippcratic Oath is saving patients from evil doctors unfortunately you're mistaken. Quite often when doctors have complaints lodged against them they are just ignored or if taken seriously at all (and it has to be many many complaints for that to happen) the doctor is usually just moved to a different clinic. Very few and far between are the doctors that do the harm being held accountable. And often they count on that. I knew a woman who had four children and was diagnosed with CRPS who was prescribed so many meds by her super 'wisdomous' doctors that she ended up dying from organ failure.
    The difference between now and thirty years ago is that hospitals and doctors clinics are corporations, and many of the people working in that industry aren't in it for the patients.
    Western Medical industry has got nothing on the Ayurvedic Medical realm or other well - established health practices which has been operating for thousands of years, not less than 200.

  • @bigguys45s29
    @bigguys45s29 Рік тому +6

    This has already been talked about before online, but could you maybe make a video on the Joanna Lopez case?

  • @disciple2742
    @disciple2742 Рік тому +4

    She's not a victim. She stole soooo much blood... they should milk her blood till she's gone.

  • @tiapetrilli1845
    @tiapetrilli1845 Рік тому +4

    i feel awful for kelly honestly, people are cruel. she deserves love and help, even though her illnesses aren't physical.
    yes, i definitely understand people's frustration, but they should try to understand how devastating her mental pain/trauma must've been for her to torture herself like that...
    sending my love & best wishes to kelly & her recovery. i truly hope for her sake shes getting the help she so desperately needs.