Do Not Trust Oceangate
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Recently a submersible made by Oceangate tragically imploded during an expedition to the Titanic wreck. This tragedy was a result of extreme negligence for any safety measures. Despite these events, Oceangate is still offering to take paying tourists into the ocean. This is why you should not trust them.
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"Don't trust OceanGate." I'll keep that in mind when I have a quarter of a million bucks to go see the bottom of the Atlantic.
TOMMY FROMM VICE CITY HAS A QUARTER OF A MILLION BUCKS
@@NigerianCrusaderand he can't swim
Just give that money to me
@@NigerianCrusader are you 6 or 8?
I won't need a quarter of a million to not trust anything from Oceangate, if they try to sell me a toilet to recover from all the lawsuits being tossed at them, I'm sure that toilet's going to have several problems with it. Is the seat going to cut me, will it not flush, what if it leaks... the list of hidden problems will just keep growing!
Don't try to Rush a project through, you might not live to regret it.
I cannot believe they are still offering rides. Disgusting and frankly incredibly disturbing behavior.
How the fuck they still offering rides after people got turned to fuckin squished chum??
maybe theres a submarine wreckage viewing option now
@@moggingyouhonestly i wouldnt be suprised if they did that
Eh, I wouldn't go on it. Or let anyone I know sign up. But it's one of those things where, it's your life. Some people want to risk it. Should MT. Everest be guarded with armed soldiers? Should freeclimbing be banned? Ban F1 racing? And even if you think it should, it's impossible, people are still going to do it, all you've done is make it more dangerous. Does seem really immoral to keep it open. But so are cigarette company CEO's, they just aren't in the news.
republican type behavior if u stop and think about it for a sec
It baffles me that the CEO was told several times he will kill someone with his poor engineering and he just responded “Nuh-uh!’
"no u"
He was on the goddamn submarine too
Survivorship bias. When it didn't kill him he decided it couldn't kill him until it did.
"wdym ill kill people?? this is the most protective sub ever!!" - ceo
Doch in german :P
"regulations are usually written in blood" is a statement everyone should know.
For real. Because somebody had to die or get seriously hurt for those regulations to exist in the first place
This was even worse than ignoring regulations. He ignored the advice of apparently just about every expert he ever consulted with, and kept interpreting criticism as an insult. Like... dude, when you hire an engineer, it's their JOB to be critical, WTF?!
I think Stockton Rush may have had full blown narcissistic personality disorder.
The funny thing, the regulations were already written due to the blood of others long before, and he STILL openly flaunted them. If anything, it's more of wetting the dried ink.
@@confusedoilpainter3294 i think the dude is just hella stubborn about being right, no point in wanting fame when you're dead
Not always.
It’s amazing Stockton Rush completely replicated everything that led to the Titanics demise, hubris, arrogance, greed, and drunk levels of stupidity.
" oh, boats? meh.. it looks ugly and cramped up the dock for the rich!".. and its unsinkable!!!
hubris.
To be fair, the designer Thomas Andrews actually pushed for more lifeboats, but the company rejected it. And he went down with the ship himself.
And racism was his undoing
@@josedorsaith5261 when did racism come into this
I wouldn’t say arrogance or hubris led to the demise of the titanic. Greed, sure. Stupidity, plenty. But I didn’t really see much in the way of arrogance and hubris.
The son kills me the most. He went since it was father's day weekend and it meant so much to his dad. I have no sympathy for Stockton Rush. If you want to risk your own life, that's your problem, but he took those other people and led them to believe it was safe.
I agree. There's nothing wrong with trying new innovative approaches to stuff. But risking people's lives during these experimental stages for profit is just wrong.
@@ScareTheaterthe problem is that this wasn’t even for experimentation. We paid our taxes and money to the military just to rescue billionaires that could’ve avoided this if they actually had a brain that wasn’t filled with green paper.
@@justsomemonkeymanwithlongh3188 i know basic human empathy is tough but maybe just give it a shot
@@justsomemonkeymanwithlongh3188 i mean that is the coast guard's job, no? its kinda like saying that its a waste of taxpayer money for doctors to save a criminal. dont get me wrong, what the CEO did was horrible.
@@thatoneguy609ave the millionaires ever had empathy for you?
What gets me is the wife of Rush is related to Isidor and Ida Straus, a couple who died as honorably as one could on the Titanic. When Ida and her maid got on a lifeboat, Isidor was also told he could get on, but he knew there were women, children and younger men still on board and said he didn't want special treatment. So Ida took off her expensive fur coat, gave it to her maid and stepped back on Titanic to die with her husband. He tried to get her to leave and she refused, saying the end would be the same as their life, it would happen with them together. They are depicted in the movie Titanic as the elderly couple holding one another on the bed as their room floods.
In contrast, look how her husband will be remembered. As a selfish, egotistical, greedy man who took 4 people with him to a death near Titanic, in a tragedy that HE could have prevented.
Just wild, really.
That’s a fascinating story
Stockton Rush is also a direct descendant of two of USA founding fathers, Stockton and Rush.
Yes well rich ppl aren't like they used to be.
If titanic happened today you can bet your bottom dollar the rich ppl would get on the life rafts first.
Jews be Jewing
Speaking of that, the actor who portrayed Isidor died recently. He was 94.
Stockton Rush: "I break rules!"
Physics: I break people who break rules.
Here's a lesson from this tragedy that can apply to the entire tech industry: "Innovation" is a buzzword usually used as a smokescreen for unsafe or illegal practices.
In fact, being innovative actually mean you still have the same safe environment or even more safe, while cutting costs.
If you only cutting cost and the results is as expected to fail/hazardous, then it hardly can be called innovative.
A common phrase, in the years leading up to the 2008 crash, was "financial innovation." 🎉
Innovation is applied to creative thinking, not safety measures. Nintendo didn't become a major innovator because they made their employees work out of a U-Haul
Sometimes it means something expensive you don’t need like the latest Apple product
The first iphone was innovative never heard about it blowing up in peoples hands
The son did it to make his dad happy for Father’s Day and the fact he was scared broke me. I can’t imagine how terrified that boy must’ve been
I’m sure he had milliseconds to contemplate how bad of a decision it was
That was a false statement by his aunt. His mother later told media that the kid even brought his Rubik’s cube to solve it when reaching the bottom
@@armandocamero wow rubix cube, he must have had no reservations because he broguht an object to distract himself, man youre a real empath, use your powers on me next please, glad you knew him better than his aunt too
@@armandocameroWow, his mother who is known to be loyal to her husband, told us that it was a fabrication and that her only defence is a toy known for stress relief and logical reasoning
@@armandocamero Ah yes, the Rubik's Cube. A toy you bring when you're happy to be wherever you are and don't want to be focused on literally anything else.
Ocean Gate should be required to repay all the search and rescue costs. Everyone knew immediately what happened. It was all an act.
I just don’t understand why they did all this is they already knew days earlier
@loudog3998 to save what face they have left
It would be one thing if Rush did this as some kind of suicide stunt for himself but the fact that he brought other people down with him makes it a murder - suicide!
@@TheNavigator4552 Do they even have any left? Pretty much everyone just sees them as idiots who made a homemade sub and got a bunch of people killed for it. Like, no way they're ever recovering from that incident.
The Fact Rush was able to even legally put that sub in the water is something we need to talk about in of itself.
International waters, mind.
Wait till you find out about cruises
Nah. Other people, sure, but Darwin Awards are a crucial part of the natural process.
@@Gorgonzeyecringe edge lord
I'm a medic and I have no background in engineering. But even I was screaming at the screen during his interview. Rush said there was no point in testing because most accidents are down to human error. Did he not stop to think that the reason most accidents are down to human error is PRECISELY because testing dramatically decreases the likelihood of mechanical failure?
When a doctor prescribes a patient antibiotics, they explain VERY CLEARLY that the patient MUST take the entire course of treatment, especially and most vitally if they are feeling completely better. This is because they will still have some remaining bacteria in their system, the ones that already have some minor resistance to the antibiotic, and not taking the rest of the treatment means the infection will return, it will be even worse than before, and it may no longer be treatable. And yet time and time again, people will take their prescription until they feel better, skip the rest, get worse again, and then refuse to go back to the doctor because "the medicine didn't work".
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Companies are notorious for hiring IT employees who work very hard to keep everything working without issues, then the company will let go half the department because there aren't any problems for IT to fix, completely failing to understand that the reason there aren't any problems is because IT is doing their job well. Then they are shocked that the problems start showing up that need to be fixed.
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There are so many ridiculously precise regulations, and so many weird and bizarre laws around the world. Did you know there's a regulation that you can't carry hazardous waste in the bedrooms of a ship's crew? Why would anyone actually bother to take the time to write a regulation like that?
And speaking of ridiculous laws, what about all those laws like "you can't carry around an ice cream cone in your back pocket on Sundays". You hear about that law, and you think "there has to be a story behind that!"
And the thing is, the same thing is true about regulations. There is a story behind every weird regulation, and a lot of those stories end in death.
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Many people with mental disorders, such as schizophrenia for example, are known to take medicine to resolve their symptoms, and then later on, perhaps months later, they will notice that they no longer have any symptoms of their disorder. Despite repeated warnings from treatment professionals that if symptoms resolve, it is precisely because they are taking their treatment, it is infuriatingly and dishearteningly common for patients to decide that they no longer need their medicine because they don't have symptoms any longer.
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In that last example, it is very easy to simply blame the poor decision on the person's mental disorder, as many mental disorders can affect one's ability to make logically sound decisions. However that's not the problem. How could it be? This is a scenario that affects people who are not experiencing any symptoms at the time they are making the decision. The program is so much deeper, and so much simpler.
We, as humans, only have the most tenuous of relationships with logic, and by extension, cause and effect. We routinely make logically unsound decisions, and construct whatever rationale we need, whatever story or narrative we desire, in order to convince ourselves that it was a reasonable decision reached with pure logic.
And likewise, we have convinced ourselves into believing that we really understand cause and effect so much better than every other animal on the planet, but while that's technically true, we're still abysmal at it.
Whether it's patients stopping treatments, companies firing IT departments, or people laughing at absurd regulations, it's all the same fundamental mistake.
We only really grok the cause and effect relationship when the effect is an event. We completely fail to instinctually understand that the absence of events can have a cause as well.
Stockton Rush looked at regulations and classifications and saw that they were the cause of people paying for classification and doing work to abide by regulations. What he, and most of us humans, tend to miss is the events that they prevent.
There's no list of people who were saved by this rule. There's no list of plane crashes that such and such regulation prevented.
And there's no list of people who didn't die in flawed submersibles 3800m below because of regulations and classification.
But there is a list of people who did die in flawed submersibles 3800m below because they ignored regulations and classification
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A final example: Remember the Y2K bug? How it was totally overblown, how it was all fear mongering about bank accounts erasing themselves, planes crashing, dogs and cats living together, total hysteria? It wasn't overblown at all. It was all real, it was a huge problem, we took it seriously, we mostly fixed everything, and instead of total economic collapse or hundreds of thousands of deaths at midnight, instead we got comedians mocking people for taking it seriously. And that's the *"Good"* time line.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take, but don't forget that you make 100% of them too.
@@OhhCrapGuy holy fuck im saving this comment man that was a good read
@@wtfhahahaha bro wrote a research paper in the comments lol.
@@lolfu6492 yh ik 😂😂 but it's a good read like unironically
"grok"
I've learned a new thing today. Thank you!
I think the full quote he wanted to apply to himself makes it even worse. “You are remembered for the rules you break.” Congratulations Rush, you will indeed be remembered for all the rules you broke, and as you mentioned Scare - but not in the way he could have imagined.
Yeah. Remembered as the loser that Time will never forget, isn't something you want to be labeled with for eternity. Him and Ismay in lockstep...
@@jerodfarmer165It will possibly be use as a case study on what not to do.
Also Macarthur got fired for breaking too many rules lmao
@@jerodfarmer165 i am convinced some UA-camr is going to make a video on this in maybe next 20 year or so
There is something about that statement as well as a comment that I read once about this incident that I can't get out of my head - did Rush have a death wish? What I mean is I wonder if this is how he wanted to go. I don't mean whether he was suicidal but rather whether he was aware of the possibility that Titan would implode at some point during one of its expeditions, yet he had nothing against dying like that. From what I've seen, he didn't seem like he wanted to be rich but boy, did he want to be famous and remembered and, well, people are definitely talking about him. Or was he really that arrogant that he believed Titan was without flaw and nothing could ever happen to it just like the engineers of the Titanic thought?
I keep thinking of the son, Suleman Dawood, he really didn't want to go and was terrified. But the Titan was scheduled to dive on June 18th, Father's Day! He wanted to please his father, but I also think he didn't want his father going alone and knew on some level that if his father was going to die he wanted to be with him.
What a pos Stockton rush and sulemans father was tbh. Got him killed, had his whole life ahead of em. His father and Stockton rush can play cards while they burn in hell. Rip suleman.
Suleman was stupid. U don't need to risk ur life to impress ur dad.
No, I don’t think so. His mother got on there and insisted that he wanted to go and that she had given up her seat for him. There’s no way to tell what really happened. But I seem to believe he was nervous. Maybe the mother was trying tomake herself feel better by saying he wanted to go
@@PsyiluxOnline why would you want to blame sulemons ‘s father? Suleiman loved his father and his father loved him. In no way did his father have any inkling that this disaster was possible. Suleiman‘s father wanted him with him to enjoy the experience. unfortunately that was not to be.
The bit about the backwards thruster is insane because it means they didn't even test the sub after replacing parts, before having tourists on board. Just another indication that safety wasn't a priority.
"Uh, boss, the sub aint safe..."
"You're fired and I'm suing you!!!"
Kinda got what he deserve to be honest.
Agreed.
Just sucks he had to drag 4 other people down with him, though. People who likely trusted him when he said they'd be "fine" even though the guy knew that wasn't true. It especially sucks that his complete negligence killed the 19 year old. He had his whole life ahead of him... 😢
I have less than zero sympathy for Stockton Rush. His family, yes. Him, absolutely not. He should've never been allowed legally to take people down in that death trap. He'll be remembered as a villian who's hubris ironically mirrored the Titanic, and he even flagrantly named the sub after the Titanic! He was tempting fate with that dumb choice, like he wanted the sub to kill him. No one will remember him as an "innovator," just a greedy, selfish asshole who KNOWINGLY put other people's lives in danger for money.
What a "great" legacy. 🙄
1000% but it just sucks he brought down four others, including that kid, with him.
Yes, he made such a big deal out of not hiring 50 year old white males with military experience. Needing female innovation and all this.
Hmmm seems like having some white males with experience would've been a good thing, huh? Good riddance to him.
Regulations exist for a reason, and that is to protect us from men like Rush
Libertarians be like "how dare you impede our rights to be crushed by tons of water"
Rush also said that "they were too safe" like bruh what do you meannnnn u literally fired someone becus they raised an issue that the sub was not safe
Nonsense. Government isn't aupoosed to keep you safe. Common sense could have prevented this, no government needed.
I'm glad these rich folks had the freedom to make stupid choices.
@@mipmipmipmipmipexactly. These people had the total right to spend their money and do this stupid shit. They only risked themselves. It's unfortunate, but no law should have stopped them. Common sense... that's all that was needed here.
@@Xirriousbasically, you are saying we should switch to common sense laws for everything, can't just have one thing??
Drugs are some stupid sh#t and nobody should stop them, right?
my brother is just like this guy.. he considers himself a misuderstood genius and an innovator, while the only thing he does is being a contrarian who thinks innovations is just doing things differently , regardless of common sense, danger or efficiency, as a result he has consistently suffered injuries, blinded a dog, destroyed a water pipe leaving us without water for days, etc.
the worst part is the most you tell him what he is doing is wrong, the more he puts effort into doing it, because "YoUh ARre NhOt GoIInhG Toh tElL MeE wHatt tO Doh"
Give your brother a good slap in the face 😉
Good God you can't just leave on a cliffhanger like this! What did he do?!
wtf is your brother doing to blind a dog
that's.. someone needs to call the cops on that
I would like to add that Paul-Henri Nargeolet, one of the passengers, wasn't just your ordinary french explorer. He was a leading researcher and expert of the Titanic, as well as an experienced navy officer who assisted many search operations (including locating missing shipwrecks and an aircraft). He mainly focused on his work on the Titanic itself, from recovering artefacts and mapping out the entire debris field (which was made into a documentary), using ROV equipment.
It's kinda sad to see people just lumping him together with the "Naive billionaires who didn't know what they were going into". If anything, his mistake was that he trust Oceangate to a blinding fault, perhaps wanting the Titanic tourism to become more mainstream, hence him supporting the entire operation.
There’s a reason submarines aren’t made of composite materials. Titan is a perfect example of why
and are built by conservatively thinking, seasoned designers and staffed by crews trained ad naseum....
Titan?
@@captainrelyk The submarine in question??
That was my first sort of "WTF?" moment for this sub. Composite materials are hard to simulate and harder to test. Let alone carbon fibre, which loses close to half it's strength when subjected to a compressive load.
It's just dumb. So dumb. Who the hell thought this was a good idea. Only a CEO would use carbon fibre (or any composite) for this.
@@altaccount4697 Not only is the material brittle, which means any microfracture would splinter, and by being fiber it's not a not entirely, whats the word for it, a complete material, homogeneous in it's consistency, it's fibers. It might be fine to supplement the hull as like a brace, but not good to rely on. People have made it to the bottom of Mariana's Trench's Challenger Deep in like the 50's with a solid steel hull, 8 + miles further down and 600+ more atmospheres of pressure. Also they used a like a 10 inch thick hull to do it. It might not be as "Advanced" but they lived and reached far deeper 70 years ago, sometimes if it works it doesn't need innovation, especially when the failure result is instant death of all aboard.
According to the actor who took the trip, he said that once you reached the bottom the whole environment was pitch black. The next challenge was to locate the ship itself. You didn't just reach it right off the bat, pretty much like walking in the middle of the night through your living room with a flashlight on trying to locate the remote.
It would have been easier to see the Titanic wreckage via a unmanned sub where you could watch the footage on a nice big screen instead of cramming into a tube and watching the footage from that shitty little screen. There really was no reason for people to go underwater on that sub other than clout.
I think that was on the cyclops, they had a transponder and the mothership directed the sub...everyone knew the sub was gone in the mothership, even the search team knew, they possibly did the search out of respect to the families..
@@thedbcooperforum According to him, it was the Titan. He went last year. Based on his experience, everything sounded so sketchy lol
Except your living room doesnt have currents that move you off course as you navigate your way to the remote, confusing you as you go on.
@@thevoicestoldmetoagain4627 In that case, pets are the obstacle lol Gleefully approach you cos you're awake lol
They were doomed from the start when they named their company “Oceangate”.
Crazy how fast an implosion can take someone's life.
What do you mean crazy? Its elementary physics.
@@TUTMENA Consider life withdrawal
@@TUTMENA just shut up bro
You clearly don't understand what I meant and I don't have the patience to explain it to you.
@@TUTMENA🤡🤡🤡
He got emailed about how he was quite literally recreating the "she's unsinkable" situation, and yet went through with it, impressive (and not for the right reason).
Going near the titanic at all just seems like a bad omen to me.
Lmfaoooo
unimplodable
The participants obviously possessed more money than sense.
@@ToxPhythere is no bad omen in ocean travel if people do it without hubris
Rush sounds like he loves the sound of his own voice. Having people pay 250k to be stuck in a tube listening to him talk for 4 hours must have been heaven for him.
Hahaha true 😂
I’m happy he’s gone sheesh he was asking to meet death and he did. Some people create their own predicament and I refuse to have sympathy
😂😂😂
Last thing that went through his head was his own ass
You pay 250k and see that you must sit on floor and toilet is bucket in same space , that should have been a warning sign .
There is this story about show wrestler , Andre the Giant , taking a dump in an airplane that smelled so bad that people got sick and airplanes can vent out .
Imagine that in a sub , that only can circulate the same smelly air , no CO2 soda lime trapper or extra oxygen will remove that smell .
A good mate of mine retired from the Navy at rank OF-04. He served during the Cold War and has told me about his experiences. If there's one consistent truth about Sailors: They respect the Sea and don't joke about the strangeness of the oceans. Considering the stories that we've shared over the years, there's absolutely no way you could pay me £250k to get on that vessel.
Kudos to everyone who had the balls to call the CEO out before this tragedy. 😥
It has came to light that they were on ascent when it imploded so they actually knew that something bad was happening. I can’t imagine how scary that had to be!!
How would they know ?
The acoustics monitoring system that monitored the health of the hull. The texts between the titan and the main ship got leaked and they said that the monitoring system was detecting failure. They then dropped weight and were trying to ascend for 20ish minutes before it failed. So they were definitely panicked for 20 minutes until implosion. Super sad man!
@@_Roasted_Marshmallow where can I find these texts?
@@mynamo12 Nowhere. Remember: the internet is fake.
@@mynamo12 gs academy posted it, but James Cameron also said that they had dropped the ballasts and were on ascent during a interview so it lines up.
Slight correction: my understanding is that people who knew about submersibles were fairly certain that it imploded when everything went down all at once. But they had to act assuming they were still alive in the unlikely case that there wasn't an implosion and they needed rescue.
Ye. James Cameron said he knew they were gone as soon as it came to light that they lost the transponder when they lost comms.
Unlike Cameron I did NOT know that they lost the transponder that was not mentioned publicly. Had I known THAT I would have known immediately that it had imploded because I already knew that fiber was not a compressive material. However I did NOT know that it was a cylinder nor that it was fabricated out of fiber! I think Cameron was privy to things that that John Q wasn't because he knew the guy.
How come they weren't all so vocal before the accident happened, a lot of hindsight since
@@user-xu4xj2cd2jbecause why would you bring negative attention to yourself. Its like saying why dont criminals just turn themselves in, Thats just not how it works
@@user-xu4xj2cd2jThey were vocal about it. Oceangate recieve crap tons of letter dissing their sub, including from Society of marine engineering. Stockton's idea to make a sub with carbon fiber was shot down when they were making Cyclop 1. In 2018 Oceangate fires an employee who is vocal about their safety.
I thank Scaretheater for being more respectful to the victims here.
Who cares? They were rich. Literally not normal people. Elon Musk has shown us the shallowest depths of their psychopathy.
@@jakespacepiratee3740Musk is a manchild. That does not mean rich people’s lives as a whole don’t matter.
@@57yearoldjamesbond genuinely I’d agree but I felt disheartened at how so many people were searching for these select 4 while entire cruise ships have gone down with barely any rescue efforts.
Perfect example of why we need engineering ethics!
This horror of a story is basically why regulations exist. That poor kid, man. He didn't even want to go. And how the CEO seemed proud of not having anything up to standard. In my eyes, he is... Well... Was... A murderer
The fact of the matter is most places and people ignore regulations even the government themselves. It's simply the way of the world.
@@FiregloI think there’s a level of accepting the way things are. Yes, you are right in what you’re saying. But if we can avoid or change that, shouldn’t we???
@@NoButIGotCheezWhiz the problem is, there’s no such thing as “We” when it comes to rich people. It’s “Me” and “Me” only.
By definition he's not a murderer tho. Stockton Rush had no intention of killing anyone, he was blinded by his own ego, as stayed in the video
He’s not a murderer. Murderers kill their victims on purpose
What's unfortunate about this, is the name "Oceangate" sounds like a major controversy or scandal. You have Pizza-Gate, Water-Gate, Elsa-Gate, and so on. I almost feel that the name "Oceangate" was a sense of unfortunate forshadowing for things to come. It's a terrible tragedy, and I wish for all the best for the families that lost someone in the submarine.
Heaven's Gate aswell
@peeron6829 Very true. It's just definitely odd, and almost seems too fishy to be coincidental. Especially the way the guy was acting. He wouldn't listen to anyone, even though they basically said that there are potential dangers that need to be resolved first.
Thank god i wasn't the only one who thought of this
@@iwaterboardchildren I genuinely thought I was one of the only ones. Glad I'm not alone! :D
Guess we gotta call it OceanGate-gate
The funny thing about the repeated pressure damaging the carbon fiber in the Titan is that it reminds me of the book The Martian, in which repeated use of an airlock causes slight shifting in a composite fabric stuff and eventually this causes a tear in the fabric that shoots the airlock out of the base like a cannon. Slight damage over long times can have catastrophic results and this disaster proves it.
Oceangate needs to be held accountable for murder, this is a class action lawsuit waiting to happen.
can't really charge a murder suicide
@@xTROLLINGx If I had a love one on that submarine, I would sue the company just like everyone else. What you mean by can’t charge a murder suicide wasn’t a suicide at all. It was a horrific accident.
@@mcmike89ep but the contract they signed doesn’t allow ocean gate to be sued
@@187UmKilla1 The families will find justice either way to get money somehow.
@@mcmike89 no like the contract was extremely suspicious like it basically said if you die you can’t sue me
My heart truly breaks for the 19-year old. He didn't want to go and it's so sad his life was unnecessarily lost
The mother of that son said he was excited to do it... he was gonna to break a rubix cube record on the trip..
Wasn’t he the one who brought his father along because it was Father’s day and wanted to do something for his father?
@@MtnDrew22021Exactly. Everyone spreading misinformation about him not ne wanting to go. He did want to go. He wanted it so badly, that his mother gave him her ticket.
@@Oozaru85can you explain where you’re getting that information? I’ve only seen the exact opposite
@@Oozaru85His aunt reported that he was afraid to go. He might have expressed different thoughts to her versus his mom.
It’s ironic how the tragedy of the titanic was based on hubris. They assumed the same with this tragedy. That “submarine” was a metal coffin.
I think the problem was that it wasn't metal
@cornwallmansiom3831 it was metal the pressure piece that contains the pressure was made of carb fiber or sum shit
@JR-zi9vj The domed end caps were titanium. However, the cylindrical pressure chamber was made of reinforced carbon fiber. The carbon fiber weakened each dive cycle, which led to its failure on its final voyage.
An iron lung
@@theweatherdog1816It might've survived if it was actually an iron lung!
Oceangate should go out of business period. These men lost their lives for no reason. I can't imagine what their friends and family going through.
professionals: "You need to follow safety protocols"
Stockton: "Nuh-uh "
Can't believe Stockton Rush himself said that "regulations eliminates innovation" when an employee suggested to recalculate the safety measures of the Titan. Never trust a man who thinks he know everything yet ignores all and any other opinion other than his. Rush wanted to be remembered as a smart, risky innovator that made things work miraculously. Instead, he's going to go down in history for being neglectful and arrogant like he deserves to be. My heart goes out for the victims families, red flags were already shown from the start. It's so gruesome.
It's like the saying goes. In high danger situations or environments every regulation is written in somebody else's blood.
He wanted to take shortcuts to success and glory, and look where it got him.
Now we call it Stockton Crushed
Rush was on that kerbal grind set
@@nuke7777 He forgot he can't just "Revert to VAB" whenever something goes wrong in real life.
Stockton was practically plugging his ears and going "lalala" when true concerns came to his attention. He deserved what came to him. After all, "you remember from the rules you break"
Hopefully nobody follows his footsteps
@@startheangel9760 their always will be someone. we made so many mistakes in history and yet we keep making it for some reason
@startheangel9760 his company will be sued into oblivion, estate wiped out, someone high up in that company or several someones with some ability to stop or report him to authorities to stop him will be personally sued, prosecuted, likely both. A way will be found to destroy the Titanic wreck in an attempt to make sure no one else dies trying something like this again. Waters will be claimed by Canada and other countries to enforce new laws to prevent it from happening again. A patrol boat, corvette, frigate, destroyer, aircraft with orders to fine, seize or even fire on any vessel going near the site. Commercial submersibles banned and further research either conducted directly by or under the supervision and control of a country's Coast Guard, Navy or equivalents
They released the dive logs that are unconfirmed but seem legit. If true they were experiencing warnings and were in fear for their lives for 19 minutes before they stopped responding.
Rush looks and sounds like a narcissist to me and I've dealt with a few of them over the years. Most people looking from the outside cannot see it but the ones who work with such people from the inside especially experienced can see it and it's actually hard to convince others of what's going on before it's to late. Social media with this kind of behaviour has sadly taken it to another level of how far people will go to satisfy their ego.
it's important to remember that there's a lot of people like Stockton Rush out there, people with a lot of confidence and no regard for other people.
Yeah it's pretty much every CEO ever.
That was Stockton's fault
Didn’t even have regard for himself since he died by his own creation
Yep they're called politicians and attorneys.
Corpo scum come in many shapes and sizes, but their egos remain sky high.
Thank you for the "Worry Level" graph demonstrating how worried the family got. It really put things into perspective. I'm just glad it never reached the maximum.
Lol
very true. i didnt know that the situation was really scary for the people involved until the worry level showed up. i almost thought they were totally fine in there
I made me imagine a team of scientists watching them being like "hmm looks like a 52-56% I say"
@@ScareTheaterHi!
10:28 Well..that email exchange sure didn’t age well! 😅
“Your scientists asked themselves if they could but never stopped to think if they should”
-Ian Malcolm
My heart breaks for these people and my heart breaks for the future of deep-sea exploration. Nargeolet had made over 30 trips safely to the Titanic (same for director James Cameron) but no one is going to remember the safe trips that have happened since the 80s. This is going to permanently mar the perception of what could have been an admittedly risky but incredibly worthy field of science. Oceangate has ruined it for everybody
I agree, I love submarines and sea exploration, but I probably won’t be able to talk about my hyperfixation for a while now without people calling me offensive :(
The hull monitoring system was "unparalleled" bc it was designed & patented by Stockton Rush himself and was not used, rated or recognized by any other deep sea submersible manufacturers or explorers, most of whom would say that the system would only inform occupants of defects in the hull when it was far too late to reach the surface safely, which is exactly what happened.
Their hull instrumentation philosophy was like putting a heart monitor on your pilot so you'll know right away if he's dead.
But I suspect the grossly under-rated viewport is being largely overlooked.
@@jguenther3049you can see how the rivet aren’t there anymore that means the implosion wasn’t there but a explosion got them out
I agree. There is a purported leaked SMS string that while dubious (Veritas Quo) seems to eerily match up with the final moments the more they are learned about. They saw significant parts of the sub lighting up red in the system. They had sophisticated hull sensors after all! But to what end? All that those sensors were going to tell you was that you had under a minute to ascend to a safe depth... Of course ascending to 'safe' would take a wee bit longer than a minute.
@@jguenther3049it seems they overlooked the fact that a hull breach of any kind meant instant catastrophic failure. Ugh
12:13 Proper procedures and decision making > validating the physical vessel. Ummm...wouldn't "proper procedures" INCLUDE "validating the physical vessel"? It boggles my mind to think that someone who's smart enough to be a billionaire (or anyone else of normal intelligence, for that matter) would even consider getting in that thing after reading his self-aggrandizing B
S.
James Cameron said it best: “Now there’s two wrecks down there for the exact same, damn reason.”
Cameron's barely contained rage at this whole situation has a lot to do with the fact that one of the victims was a personal friend of his.
Paul-Henri Nargolet had previously criticized the callousness of Oceangate, but on that day, he got on the sub anyway. I guess his passion for the Titanic pushed him to trust Rush.
@@diegogonzalez9877and honestly yk its a tragic way to go but at least he’s down there with something he loved and did so much research on 😭
I’d never spend 250,000$ to go in a death trap… my father is a engineer and he tells me in his opinion he can’t believe this didn’t happen sooner
8:39 why did he say it so calmly lmfao
You are right, Stockton Rush will be remembered, not as an innovator but as one of the most negligent egocentric person, who not only killed himself but killed 4 other people. I doubt that people truly knew that the carbon fiber used had gone under stress too many times and it could give out anytime. You may have signed a waiver, but many people understand that it's due to the risky nature of going so deep, I doubt that they truly understood that the Titan was a death trap. It's so sad.
I hear he goes by Stockton Crush now.
To have the guy running the submarine saying "I don't know what's going on" while underwater is horrifying.
The fact that the CEO had enough trust in the submersible to enter and go to the Titanic is incredible. There's no way i would have even the fraction of the trust he had.
I've had a special interest in deep sea exploration recently. And as soon as I saw the sub I knew it was built wrong as no submersible looks that sketchy. It's really upsetting this happened because it scares people off the ocean and exploration because they couldn't follow any basic safety measures. If they followed safety advice and built it properly this wouldn't of happened
beautiful irony aside, something that really sticks out to me about this incident is that the man behind it actually directly faced the consequences of his decisions. usually, when rich CEOs cut corners and ignore safety regulations to save costs, it only hurts the workers. "risk" is not an actual concept to these people, just a hurdle for them to overcome. his fixation on "innovation" and this persona he's created of being a sort of "rebel" of the industry shows where his priorities are; his reputation. this guy got what was coming to him, the real tragedy was the lives he took with him.
Yep nice to see he went down with the ship, at least.
Imagine being one of the people who had previously gone down in that thing! Knowing it could have imploded at any time.
I don't want to!
Honestly! I can't even imagine! They're very lucky
There are a few videos on UA-cam of people that went down before mission #5
I know I'd be kissing the ground and thanking God!
Reminds me of the girl who watched the challenger explode. Knowing that, if the other person backed out at any second, that could have been her. Watching something that you didn’t know at the time was really, a coffin.
Honestly sounds like an advertisement to me. “This submersible will literally evaporate rich people instantly!”
imagine going to the place most associated with death and tragedy, only to add to it's legacy
Oceangate offering tours after this tragedy shows how heartless and greedy they are.
They've gotta raise money to pay for the forthcoming lawsuits somehow! (Sarcasm)
Also, waiver aside, he defrauded those folks by not giving them a complete picture of how much of a safety risk it was. This wasn't signing a waiver after being given the full scope of the possibilities or dangers, as you do by say, riding a roller coaster that is regularly maintained and routinely inspected.
The mountain of evidence of the CEO maliciously foregoing safety measures will be enough for some crafty lawyers to wipe the floor with those supposed waivers.
I read that it wasn’t the carbon fiber alone, it was the use of three different materials which would expand and contract at different rates, making it far more dangerous than that wear and tear from repeated trips on other submersibles.
To boot, no one was a fan of using a cylinder shaped vessel.
Rush was the kind of dude who would have build a baby crib with extra parts missing in the end - and be proud of his parts conservation.
The window was acrylic. Thats the shit you make fake nails out of 🤦♂️
@@PsyiluxOnline yikes
@@genghis_connieyikes is right, bro was wrong as fuck and got ppl killed..shits crazy.
8:30 The passenges signed a waiver stating that the vessel was indeed "experimental".
The fact that the dude said ''I'm tired of this whining that we will kill someone'' and he then dies in his own submersible is beyond karma and irony.
I feel bad for the four passengers that died but not for Rush. His arrogance cost innocent people their lives.
I'm just happy the pilot was rush and not some 20 some year old guy he hired that didn't have the experience to know how bad of a idea this sub was
I feel bad for the 19yo man, this is craziness!!!
I know right. Imagine ending up dead due to someone's ego and stupidity.
@@glf385 The poor 19 year old young man tagging along with his dad for Father's Day is the most tragic thing about this. Had his whole life ahead of him. Robbed of all the rich experiences that make life wonderful. Loves and heartbreaks, triumphs and defeats, successes and failures, etc. etc.
From what I've read he wasn't all that thrilled about riding along in that death trap of a submersible, but he went along despite it all out of respect and love for his dad. He probably didn't think much about the danger either, and probably fully trusted it would be safe seeing as how a seasoned explorer, the CEO of the company and his own father had full confidence in the watercraft's ability to descend to the ocean floor several thousand meters below the water's surface.
This may seem callous to some, but I really hope their dearhs were quick and painless. I hope that they didn't spend their last minutes on Earth panicking and freaking out before the implosion.
So senseless and honestly infuriating that Mr. Rush played so fast and loose with the lives of others. Just an absolute arrogant b@stard who wouldn't even consider for a moment that maybe he was going about it all incorrectly and recklessly.
@@_SoCalDude_ His dad probably owned slaves, given the middle east's usage of unpaid workers. No billionaire makes a billion dollars honestly
One thing I thought odd was that, it's meant to be very bad luck to name a ship or vessel after another that has sank.
With that in mind, both the Titanic and the submersible Titan shared the same name, the ic suffix at the end is just something to the order of "being like". So technically they were suggesting the Titanic was being like and they were a titan, if that made sense.
Tempted fate a bit with that alone.
And fate took that and ran with it 😂
It's also bad luck have a banana on a boat.
It's also completely "bad luck" to be arrogant not take safety measures
Titanic wreck was found but Ocean Gate's Cyclone class Submersible was wrecked in pieces
Yeah, that and the company name joins a long line of scandalous "Gates"
"Water Gate"
"Gamer Gate"
"Pizza Gate"
"Ocean Gate"
I'm surprised OceanGate is the actual name of the company. I thought people were calling it that because of the -gate suffix, like Watergate.
Maybe we shouldn’t be trusting billionaires with our lives.
Knowing a person who has the word 'stock' and 'ton' in his middle name and 'rush' in the surname, it is not suprising to find himself disappearing into thin air for his own rush to inevitable end. RIP Stockton Rush. You will always be remembered for your unintentional murder-suicide of everyone involved in the implosion.
His first name is Stockton.
@@JokeDeity2 I am not sure what are you trying to imply here. Stockton Rush's full name is Richard Stockton Rush III. Now let me know precisely what do you mean by Stockton being his first name.
i thought it was a movie name or something when i first saw it lmao
@@MrcreeperDXD777 Well, that sounded legit. 🤣
Rip? I hope you mean ripped to pieces by the water pressure. No sympathy for what is a killer in the making.
This is the first I've heard about Stockton Rush naming OceanGate's 1st gen sub 'Cyclops' (and the 2nd as well, at least originally). For those who are unfamiliar, Cyclops was the name of a ship infamous for suddenly disappearing with all hands in 1918, just 6 years after Titanic sank. Considering his reckless disregard for safety protocols and his choice of the replacement name 'Titan,' which is obviously reminiscent of the Titanic disaster and an eerily coincidental short story written years earlier about a similar scenario involving a fictional ship named 'Titan'...I can't help but wonder whether Stockton Rush had something of a death wish.
Sounds to me he's has an unhealthy obsession with the Titanic wreckage.
My more charitable take would have been that the naming convention features Greek and/or Roman mythology, as it often does for water vehicles as far as I can tell.
But given how much of a narcissistic dickwaddle the CEO was, I fully accept to be wrong on this, and that he referenced what @beeroftherat1 said
@@justsomeguywithaquestionab3175
Stockton came from a very prominent family, two of his descendants signed the declaration of Independence and a building at princeton was named after a family member. He wanted to make his mark in the world just as past family did..I doubt this is the mark he wanted to make...
The sub was doomed from the start and Stockton was destined to die on it..the avoidable part was allowing passengers to die with him..he was a very dangerous, ignorant and foolish engineer and more truth will come out when this is all over..
Maybe Stockton was a sadistic
@@umchileanyways8603 he was trying to make a mark for himself in history, he didn't plan on it this way but that's what he gets looking out for himself only .
the sub experienced crackling at 1,300ft and imploded somewhere around 1,500ft and the viewport was only sustainable till around 1,300ft, Rush knew this, invited people onto his sub, purposefully went below 1,300ft and virtually committed suicide. wtf
I feel so horrible for the son. He was terrified and his worst fear came true, the only good thing is that it was instant. Go with your gut, it's usually right.
I read somewhere that they hit the bottom, things broke off on the outside, and then it imploded.
@@BeenBrenNo they never made it all the way down
Lmao rot in hell
Their acoustic hull monitoring system may have gone off, which only would’ve given them seconds of warning. Far too late to do anything about it. They may have spent their last seconds in a sheer panic knowing they were going to be turned into boiled soup at any moment and they could do nothing but drop ballast and pray for a miracle.
@@RainbowManification The monitoring system would have gone off milliseconds before the implosion. Carbon fibre fails rapidly and suddenly under normal stresses, let alone these insane pressures.
As someone whose motto is safety above all else, this Ocean gate CEO became my mortal enemy the moment I learned that he deems safety as the least of his concerns. I'm disgusted by this vile being.
I still have trouble wrapping my mind around the degree of lack of safety procedures involved in this. I work at a movie theater and on my orientation we went over every theater disaster going back to the 1800s and what safety regulations came about from each one. We even have regular drills as to what to do from power outages to active shooter. It's surreal that a movie theater takes safety more seriously than a deep sea sub company.
Yep, he said "at some point safety is just a waste" "are you just going to stay in bed the rest of your life, never drive a car..." these quotes and a few others from him are not gonna age well.
My mortal enemies are the billionaires who have ruined the lives of billions of people and ruined the economy, shooting us into a dystopian nightmare. Thankfully, 5 of them paid 250k to end up at the bottom of the ocean!
he apparently actually boasted to someone who ended up not going on a trip that he used expired materials.
Dont worry he has been Mortal-ed
The fact they are still offering tours and expeditions is simply disturbing. If they don't do something to improve their submersibles then it's only a matter of time before this happens again.
Thanks for covering this. I just had a lot of hearsay and I don’t have the energy to research all this shit. So I deeply appreciate you doing it 🥰
The irony is Stockton Rush was an ex McDonnell Douglas flight-test engineer for F-15 Eagle jets, then some 30 years later when the journalist interviewed him about the his submersible programs, he said :"Safety is just a waste".
Not at all, McDonald Douglas are very popular but also flawed aircraft 😢.
In a number of cases, hubris from domain dominance can make someone overlook the unique issues inherent when employed in a different industry or different environment.
Which is also why Michael Jordan being brilliant at basketball didn't transfer over when he tried his hand at baseball.
He never said safety is a waste. Don’t misquote him.
aircraft engineers are no more qualified to design deep ocean crafts than an automotive engineer is qualified to design a spacecraft. using carbon fiber is such a ridiculous decision that it's no wonder he refused to hire anyone with experience and only hired younger, inexperienced engineers that wouldn't question the lack of safety.
Stockton was obsessed with marketing his ridiculously unsafe submersible to oil and gas companies. he killed these people and himself through greed.
@@singed8853"Stockton Rush, founder of the company that owns the missing submersible craft that was on its way to view the Titanic wreckage, has said safety is “pure waste.”
“I mean if you just want to be safe, don’t get out of bed, don’t get in your car, don’t do anything,” Rush said in a 2022 podcast with CBS reporter David Pogue. “At some point, you’re going to take some risk, and it really is a risk-reward question.”
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look it up yourself.
We've heard two different stories from three people, his aunt saying that he was terrified and wasn't up for the trip anymore, his mother saying that he wanted to go, was excited to go, and was going to do a Rubik's cube record on board, and a friend who claims he can't see Suleman being scared as he was as adventurous as his father and if he had said he was scared his father would have listened, according to this friend.
Unfortunately we'll never know the truth because the poor kid is gone now. I can certainly hope that he did indeed want to be there, I hope he was perfectly fine and that when it happened he didn't feel any pain or fear. Which knowing how implosions happen he probably didn't even realize it happened when it did, thank goodness. One moment there, the next gone.
I can also see both stories being true though. He may have ben excited and wanted to go when his mother gave her spot to him, it falling on Fathers Day and all...and then right before going voiced his concerns to his aunt because he didn't want to say them to his father, just wanted to get it off his chest. Again, we'll never really know what he was thinking or feeling, this is just a thought I had.
As for his Rubik's cube record his mother claimed he wanted to do, he supposedly applied to do it but it wouldn't really have counted in the Guinness books, since he had no representative from Guinness or qualifying witnesses, from what I understand of the rules. If I'm wrong or misunderstanding that, I apologize! So if he was planning on doing it it was probably just for personal bragging rights. And in the grand scheme of things it's a very small detail that really means nothing, but I keep seeing news reports mentioning it.
Stockton Rush got himself and 4 innocent people killed because of his ego and hubris. I have no respect or sympathy for the man, but I do feel sorry for his passengers, they didn't deserve to die just so he could prove his jerry-rigged submersible worked, and so he could have more money. Because I feel that's what it boils down to, he wanted money and to "stick it to the man", ie the regulatory commissions that sign off on such things safety wise. He was an arrogant, selfish man and yes, he's famous, but for the wrong reasons.
Apparently his company wasn't doing well financially and he was desperate to make money.
only 1 innocent i'd say, you typically don't get $250k from being a nice guy
The son's story and the titanic researcher ( who was good friend with James Cameron and it wasn't his first time in a submersible going to the titanic ) were the only thing that made me sad about all of this. They were both worried about this sub/trip and they ended up dying down there.
This is long holy just make a video
@@scp3999 Logical fallacy - cope harder for your lack of financial success. "I'm not rich because _I have morals_ " Oh yeah? Is _that_ why?
Well I guess Stockton was notified by these advanced sensors a millisecond before implosion occurred. That's enough time to strategically and safely say "OH SHI-".
Lets be honest,this whole thing is irony on top of irony.
From many comments ive seen, he named the subs cyclops and titan after 2 ships that sank which is meant to be very bad luck, and then theres the name of the company with the prefix gate which is a prefix for scandals. COINCIDENCE?I
I THINK NOT
I read that Suleman (the 19 year old) brought along a Rubik’s Cube onto the Titan with the hope that he could try to break the world record for the deepest one solved. My heart already broke for him and the life and future he was robbed of, but the Rubik’s Cube thing made me feel even worse for him. I think because it was such a sweet, innocent thing to want to do. We’ll never know but I hope he was able to solve it down there and experience a bit of joy before his life was taken.
@terroristswin3461he was 19 mate he was a regular teen 😂😂😂😂
@terroristswin3461that was the other rich dude's son
@terroristswin3461so? That makes him "not innocent?“ He didnt deserve to die.
@@parK.officialHe's wrong though. It was the son of the other billionaire that was on board.
@terroristswin3461you say that and then you're off watching porn 😂
That response email is what a comedically corupt businessman in a movie says before they get exposed. Stockton Rush really seems like one of those Kitchen Nightmares owners who thinks there's nothing wrong with the food.
"baseless cries of 'you're going to kill someone'" spoiler alert: the cries were not baseless
The "me too man, me too" part killed me LOL
This catastrophe still messes with me to this day. A great tragedy.
…to this day? It just happened like a month ago. Also, this narrator has a really unpleasant voice. Sorry🤷♀️
@@rabbitttz You have a hidden talent of stating annoying opinions, you should keep it hidden.
Rush's mentality is implanted way early, in college. The way he carried himself reminded me of my entrepreneurship class I was forced to take. "Innovation, innovation, innovation, innovation, innovation, innovation" with everything else being secondary and with no plans for long-term. This is dangerous and could result in further accidents and deaths in the future, but alas a lot of companies and businesses value this abhorrent hustle culture.
No one forced you to take any class. Take that irrelevant self-pity addition elsewhere.
The 19 year old is still the saddest loss.
Everyone there was an sad loss
@@Watermelon_boiznah the others actually got to choose to go on despite it being dangerous, the 19 year old was horrified to go on yet still went for his father.
Definitely
@@Myloux - plus he only was an adult for a year. he had his whole life ahead of him. just to be taken away in a second...
Very sad he was only trying to make his dad happy since it was father's day and wanted to bond with his dad. His dad was a very selfish man to put his child in danger he got him killed cause he was obsessed with a deteriorating ship that took many lives ...
The main lesson of this tragic events is beware of hubris, because it can (literally) crush you...
Very important to credit someone with the idea for this video! Who else would have thought to make a video about *checks notes* a massively reported current event
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If Stockton Rush died alone in this endeavour of reaching the Titanic spot, he would actually be heralded as the guy who lost his life while pushing the boundaries of science and technology just like Amelia Earhart but he took 4 innocents along with him, due to which he just became the world's biggest idiot.
Wasn't pushing any boundaries, the Titanics been explored since the 80s
@@flyingsky1559 Yeah, just a cash grab. Cameron went to the bottom of the Mariana Trench, which is nearly 3 times the depth, so no boundaries pushed besides safety boundaries.
@@flyingsky1559 They meant by using a material like Carbon Fiber. It pushed the boundaries. Sadly these experiments can go right or be disastrous, and in this case, it was the latter.
Lol he is being remembered as that right now! Apparently he was "innovative" and "inspiring" and not dumb. There's a reason nobody used carbon fibre never mind installing it improperly without wetting it, or using glue without sanding the metal down.
@@josephgregorowicz5135 Saying using carbon fiber for this is pushing boundaries is like saying building cars out of styrofoam is pushing boundaries. It's just fucking stupid, the only boundary pushed is the boundary of man's ineptitude.
There is nothing in this world that terrifies me quite as much as the deep ocean. To think that there exists a place on this planet where it’s darker than dark, the pressure is so intense it will violently crush anything that goes deep enough, and is home to undiscovered alien-like creatures. And then the fact you have massive objects like the Titanic just lying alone down there. Rooms full of rust and microbes, frozen in time. Gives me shudders even just thinking about it.
And then there’s this question: if the sub imploded early in it’s descent… what was the banging sound picked up near the Titanic that was heard in half hour intervals 😳
I recall they said at some point while the rescue operation was still in place that it was likely the banging sounds could be attributed to the rhythmic movement of the ocean. They didn't exactly specify that the banging was heard at 30-minute intervals on the dot, but they did mention the ocean itself and the currents could also make such sounds. But it is indeed fascinating how we know more about outer space and other planets than we know about our own.
Kraken having sex
@@floraflowers you’d think that any organization that possesses the equipment and ability to listen to sounds coming from the ocean would know in advance that the sea makes these sounds and would rule that out as a potential sign of life, but who knows 🤷♂️.
@@isruliuswell, * could *. As it, it’s entirely possible that this wouldn’t be the case, but it was a possibility nonetheless.
@@isruliusyou'd think that but no, most of these so called experts are fucking clueless themselves
Thanks to Scare for making a video about this, I had been hearing about this around the internet recently but I didn't look up more info, quite a horrible tragedy born out of irresponsibility.
There’s no point in going down to see Titanic anyway. We already got hours of footage of the wreckage dating way back to the 80s. We know it’s still there and we know it probably won’t be there much longer. Let the spirits rest.
This guy deserved to learn the hard way from his arrogance. Unfortunately he took many innocent victims with him, including a kid who was terrified to go but his father made him go
Suleman was not afraid, that’s a lie created by an estranged aunt. He took his mother’s seat and was very enthusiastic about the dive. This has been commonly reported for a week now.
@@Silvia.AraujoThe report is actually just as alleged as the mother's. Her only evidence is that he took a rubik's cube with him...a toy that somehow means he wasn't at all terrified. Not to mention the mother is very bootlicking to her husband
I would be shocked if there were *no* lawsuits or attempts to take Oceangate to court over this.
The passengers signed waivers
They signed waiver. So i cant see any lawsuit coming from the family.
@@IvanMorningstarsigning a waiver doesn’t mean they’re safe from being sued lmao
@@001KhyDepending on the level of neglect and lack of information, a waiver can be thrown out of court.
Kind of like how contracts can be nullified if the signer wasn't properly informed or not of sound mind or if the owner of the contract violated their agreements.
@@IvanMorningstarThey might have one if they can show criminal negligence on the part of the company.
Contracts aren't invulnerable.
2 wrecks now lie next to each other for the same reasons.
At least the main person at fault was willing to suffer the consequences himself, although unfortunately he took 4 others down with him
Calling Stockton Rush an innovator is like calling someone who goes rock climbing with a novelty keychain carabiner an innovator. "People don't do this. I did!"
It does bring me joy how badly he wanted to be remembered as an innovator and now he will forever be remembered as an absolute moron.
What I don't see many discussing is that even if they were able to return to the surface, while running out of air. The hatch was bolted shut, requiring their surface team to open it from the outside. Unlike other submersibles that have a hatch you can open from inside. They still would have suffocated before anyone found out them. This whole thing smelled bad from day one. For the life of me, I don't understand why anyone would have boarded this thing. RIP to the victims of this captain. Wish he lived to face charges for leading them on and not giving them all of the details surrounding this tragic companies practices.
I feel the same way towards the clot shot. For the life of me, I never understood how people would put poison in them brought to you by pedos.
@@mickzed6746facts
Rich cvnt would have just bought his way out of everything.
I'm glad Nature claimed him. I only wish it wasn't so quick.
@ davecrupel2817
Easy there, chief. I have no sympathetic for Rush either, but wishing his death was slower would mean wishing the death of the kid to be slower. 🙄
@@domanskikid I addressed that in my post. Why gaslight? Who wrote that they "wished the death was slower?" Maybe read the post again. I was pointing out how bad of a situation this was, even without the implosion incident. That they would not have had enough time either way. I agree with you on Rush. I blame the fact that he didn't make the sub with a hatch that could be opened from the inside, if they made it to the surface... On him as well. Making additional points on the incident is not wishing death on the victims, the passengers. I place the blame on the company and rush... For sure. Personally, I don't see how given the information that was easily accessible out there, about this program, how anyone would trust the guy and his vehicle.
Thank you for this. Loving the longer videos!
Holy shit dude, I never thought I’d see the day you reached 1 million subs. I’ve been around for about 5 years, and I got worried whenever I didn’t see you upload for a while. Super stoked for you dude!
13:45 You got me there 😂😂