Public Breakdown: When Your Partner Goes Too Far
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Sometimes people find their ways into unhealthy relationships. This is the story of a damaging relationship that resulted in a disturbing string of unhinged videos.
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You’ll have to beg better then dat boyo!!! in all seriousness tho love ur vids can’t wait to sit through this one
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Bro came back to get the bag Lol
Did you just say Vegan Gaines is the GOAT unironically ?!
@@Zero-90977 I did and I stand by that lol
This is a very serious and fucked up situation, but the bananas in the background of damn near every video is fucking sending me
Yeah I was so confused on that too haha! It was the main constant
@@ScareTheater I have a feeling this is an ARG and the bananas are an inside joke...
@@shadedusk7831It though that too
This sh*t is bananas, b-a-n-a-n-a-s....
He is the vegan leader after all, what better way to remind everyone of his unquestionable reign?
After seeing this there's definitely a reason why his wife took the kid.
Was looking for this comment
My thoughts exactly.
nah she is still with the dude i mean they both just mentally ill
@@bzibubabbzibubab420 He had a wife and kid before this.
@@PrettyBoyGriffith97 where's the kid now ?
"I wish my daughter would one day see these videos to see what kind of a person I was."
*A finger on the Monkey's Paw curls.*
This shit is so fucking sad
😅true
Be careful what you wish for
It truly is the monkey paw story in real life lmao poor kid, imagine having this waste of space as your dad... Makes me glad to have my dad as my dad
I totally forgot he had a daughter. I wonder if this is why the mother left. He's wild...
@@AndyLeeVlogs You just missed the entire point of this, huh?
If the mother was able to get full custody with no visitation at all, something bad happened.
That's actually not true. There's a few states where the only rights the father has is to pay child support. Any visitations after that have to be approved by the mother. If she says no...that's usually it. It happens. This guy seems pretty creepy so who knows just pointing out that's necessarily the case.
@@ChadOfAllChads I can't find anything that says this. Everything I see is that visitation is decided by the court and circumstances, not by law. You could be right, but I've never heard of this and can't find evidence of it without looking at every states laws on the matter. Feel free to list examples.
@@jak199527 Look up Father's rights in Ohio. It's actually kind of funny what the answer is lol.
@@jak199527 I guess it's not so bad but I think marriage requirements are bad for equal parenting rights
@@ChadOfAllChads yeah, this stuff goes wrong all the time. Horror stories both ways.
Alright everyone, I did some more digging on the bananas. In an old video of theirs they got into an argument and Eisel exclaimed, "Melissa! Just like the bananas we threw out last week, your love for me is rotting!"
Melissa, with tears in her eyes, yelled back, "No, Eisel! It's not true!"
Then they made a pact that for as long as the bananas did not rot, neither would their love for each other. Those bananas we see in the background are 4 years old apparently. How they haven't yet rotted remains a mystery, but I will get to the bottom of it.
Edit:
To clarify, this comment is a joke.
That's so weird. I was wondering about the bananas!
I was just about to comment “wtf is up with the bananas?!” 😂 thank you for explaining! I was starting to think it was some sort of watermark!
🤣🤣🤣
@@southerngrown I was just joking lol. I made that whole thing up
@@ScareTheaterbro 😂😂😂
For a second I thought this would be about Onision and that time he recorded his partner having a breakdown
That guy is a fuckin nightmare. I can't believe he has kids.
This did remind me of Onision.
I immediately thought about that when I saw the notification
It reminded me a bit of Onision while I was making this lol
fake breakdowns are funny
He believes he is intellectually superior yet he fails to grasp the meaning and benefit of humility.
I can see why Buddhism didn’t work out for him
The irony hey, it's truly disturbing to see how he feels to be so superior than everyone else. 🤢
He humiliates her because thats what satisfies him.
Not saying he's superior but i don't see "unsuperiority" in that, if that's a word.
Not only that but at now 50, I know people in their 70’s less mature intellectually than 30 yo’s.. it’s visa versa as well.
Also as a Canadian, him losing full custody was for a very real reason as here they push for 50/50
Lots of intellectually superior people are not humble.
You mentioned how ten years ago he didnt seem to be this kind of person, but honestly, he probably was exactly the same and thats why his wife left him. Its difficult to leave abuse for yourself, but i bet she decided she didnt want her daughter growing up thinking thats how men should treat women.
That’s exactly what I think. He put on a persona at first most likely to make himself look better in a bid to get the court to change their decision. There’s a reason he doesn’t have custody of his kid.
There is a video somewhere with an interview with his ex wife's father. He paints a different picture of the situation.
Yeah I laughed out loud literally when he said no one expected this. I think anyone who has listened to his self important rants and knows how he cant hold a job or keep any friends knew eisel is not right in the head😂
@@garyhost1830You forget to mention all the humanitarian work he did. No evidence, obviously. In fact, there's no evidence for most of his claims. Funny that.
I don't know what the age difference there was between Eye-ciel and the mother of his child, but there certainly IS a power imbalance between him and Melissa.
He appears to have convinced Melissa that his UA-cam channel's viewers now are against her.
He uses his UA-cam channel to bludgeon her with his version of reality.
Her wearing a heavy scarf the entire video while indoors makes me think there’s bruises or choke marks being covered up…
I noticed that right away. As someone who has hid strangulation marks and black eyes, it always stands out to me when someone is wearing scarves or sunglasses indoors
I thought the same thing
I didn't even notice. That makes this so much worse
Lol or it's just a scarf.
@@AmonAnon-vw3hrare you ed or just genuinely so brainrotted you can’t have any introspective thought
This is clearly an insane humiliation tactic and I really think these two people should just not be together or ever speak to each other ever again
and spare us from their stupid ass antics
My thinking too.
Yeah, the way he looks at the camera at 13:23 really shows how narcissistic he is. He knows she's dependant on him and he manipulates her however he wants...
>implying cheaters shouldn't be humiliated
@@Fraude_fiscale4 lmao do you really believe him? They were in an open relationship and he even admitted that "she ruined his chance to be with a more beautiful, brilliant woman". So I wouldn't be surprised if he was just mad that she slept with more people than him
I really hate how everything has to be monetized we can't even be emotionally distraught without fear of being recorded.
Welcome to late capitalism.
@@VictorHugo-Alcapitalism is when people overshare
@@VictorHugo-AlPeople need to stop turning this into a meaningless buzz phrase lol
@@VictorHugo-AlThis isn't capitalism, it's a controlling boyfriend forcing his girlfriend to suffer to his satisfaction on camera.
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The way he berates her in those videos is genuinely concerning. Especially if he doesn't see her as an intellectual equal
Maybe dont be a vile disgusting cheater and you wont be treated like a vile disgusting cheater🤷♂️
@@zachdrasher128 I thought that was before she cheated
@@willowwisp4307 no? She cheated, and then he exposed her for it. Unless im missunderstanding what you mean
@@zachdrasher128they were in an open relationship. he has videos on his channel arguing with people and defending polyamory.
@@Ahnock you can still cheat in an open relationship if your partner has specific requirements for it like being informed beforehand that you disregard, not saying that's what happened here but them being poly doesn't make cheating impossible by itself
Genuinely hate how public breakdowns being recorded and posted online has become the norm. I still remember the Elissa Jordana one that happened recently.
It's content for UA-cam channels like this.
Totally agree
Like they are real people in real relationships? Or just actors basically in a show?
You still remember a recent one? Lol
@@billblaski9523 real people
I suspect this "open relationship" was very one sided. He wanted to sleep eith other women but didnt eant her sleeping with other guys.
Yeah, either that or he was mad she was sleeping with more people than he was
Yeah you're just speculating to be honest.
Let's be real here this video doesn't paint the guy in the best light so you're literally going off nothing but that.
@@masterDarts4188 Exactly. That's all I have to go on. And he comes across like a monumental bell end.
@@masterDarts4188 he literally said that she ruined his chance with a more beautiful and brilliant woman. Dude reeks of envy
@@cjlister8508 And Melissa chose to go to him.
And choose to return to him on multiple occasions.
So...what does that say about her?
You think I'm gonna be an astronaut quarterback NOW Melissa
LMAO this one got me 😂
This comment is too perfect 😆 could actually hear him saying this 😆
Such and underated comment! You made my morning which will carry me through the day.. thanks for the laughs Peter🤣
😂😂 good one
Sometimes two very damaged people find each other, and it's terrible.
yep, unfortunately thats the harsh reality.
We’re all damaged in some way.
Some more than others.
But it's how you manage and deal with that baggage as a couple that determines how well a relationship works.
Tbh I think Isil is the one who caused the damage to Melissa
@@lindsayschmidt2177 you have no idea about their relationship though. How can you talk about others without meeting them and knowing them
Well, from the outside, it's beautifully funny, I'm sorry but it is ^^
The poor girl NEEDS to escape. He is definitely abusing her, and with how much he's shaming her I'm scared about it she suddenly disappears
Poor girl? Maybe dont cheat. But i agree, they need to go there own way
@@Windwalker88 admittedly it's pretty fucked up that she cheated on him with 2 guys, and since it is an open relationship she should've made him aware at least, but I almost wonder if she felt scared to do so when she first started considering it. And yeah it is kinda fucked up that she also more or less manipulated him in the videos where he said he had tried to break up with her several times and she ended up pleasing for him to stay, but something just doesn't feel right about her being around him. Overall I think the relationship is toxic through and through, but it benefits her more if she finds a way out of it and away from him
@@tarab_95 I agree the guy also looks like a lunatic and probably isnt the easiest guy to be around with. The whole situation is just toxic as hell and both probably need therapy
@@Windwalker88 Impossible to cheat in an open, poly relationship. They mentioned being in an open relationship and him having sex with other women without dating them.
Regardless of that fact, even if she WAS a cheater, this isn't how you deal with it, you break up and move on, you do not gaslight, emotionally abuse and blackmail your cheater, you would be worse than the cheater if you do.
(Not to mention, it's clear he has a history of abuse, he lost visitation of his own daughter. Courts will give visitation and custody around 80% (87% iirc) of the time when requested UNLESS it's deemed he is not fit for it because of a repeated violent past (they do not revoke the rights if it's once or twice unless it was twice within a short period)
@@Windwalker88 Yeah she's wrong for cheating, but if he talks to her like this on camera imagine how he treats her when the camera is off.
It's entirely possible that nothing Melissa admits to is true. People in bad relationships who are dependent personalities might falsely confess to paranoid accusations or even make up stories if it means being "forgiven", allowed to stay, etc. I'm just saying that two people in a weird co-dependent but power-imbalanced relationship can get THAT messed up.
He forced her to write emails to her family and leave messages on those guys' phones so it wouldn't be a stretch that he could force her to "admit" to cheating on camera. He is basically making hostage videos. He could make her say anything he wants to make her look bad. It's genuinely scary and I wish she could just escape and go back to her parents. Unfortunately escape is sometimes the most dangerous part.
Yeah the descriptions of her sex stuff seemed extra outlandish tbh.
I 100% think it’s made up and he’s gaslit her into believing it’s real
@@lindsayschmidt2177 she may know it's a story but think it'll get him to eventually calm down. I might as well admit it -- I have been in a similar situation. Not as bad, thankfully, but very messed up. Made me realize how easily I could be broken into making false confessions. The gaslighting is strongest in making her believe she can't exist on her own, that he's worth staying with despite how crazy the games are.
Yes 100 % I'm getting that too , confession under duress and desperation . Not to mention he's constantly putting her in trial and she's clearly deeply distraught.
I'll take "Men Who Should NOT Be Raising Daughters" for $800, Alex.
You're ok with your daughter cheating on her boyfriend with two other guys?
@@mrslasher1064two things can be true at the same time.
@@mrslasher1064 do you have a daughter?
What the fuck are you talking about? They were in an open polyamorous relationship. He fucked so many other women. He was the one that started the poly relationship.
@@mrslasher1064what the fuck does that have to do with the price of tea in China
the way he frames her being interested in a black man (and specifically pointing that out) vs him saying how she ruined him being with a beautiful white woman is insane
Yet claims to appreciate all these diff eastern cultures....
A racist phony
Black person in China? lol
You'll be surprised how much bigotry stems from white dudes being sexually insecure about black dudes. Back in the Sl*very days of the United States, they would castrate black sl*aves who had escaped because they were, very irrationally, afraid he would sleep with all the white women. It's a common fear amongst bigots that's survived for hundreds of years.
You should see how black women are treated for dating White men.
I would not be surprised if Melissa disappeared or turned up dead. She's young and has plenty of time to grow and become a better person. But Eisel seems to be stuck in his ways and so much worse. The best thing for both of them is to break up and never speak to each other again.
I agree. There is no way they can stay together after all this. It just can't work. They need to split and move on. And hopefully Eisel can see a mental health professional and get some help.
It's unfortunate bc in the grand scheme of things eisel is still young enough to grow as well, just like Melissa, but he refuses to out of ego.
that's it, im staying single. thanks scaretheater
I'm going to go out of my way to date you now.
No literally. It seems so much easier than dealing with someone else’s bullshit or the possibility that they might be a fucking psycho
@@dasiajb Also gonna date you.
You'll be fine as long as you use your head, pick up red flags, and actually spend time vetting people. Unlike the woman in this video.
Nah, as long as you avoid this Humpty Dumpty looking, PvZ Wallnut looking, Mr. Potato Head looking dude, then you’ll be fine… probably
I can already tell this will be hard to watch
Public breakdowns usually are.
I thought so too but ended up being kinda funny at the same time
I can tell this is going to be great to watch
Orite karl?
I can *definitely* see why his ex-wife got full custody of his daughter.
This can't be the first time this has happened, it just can't.
The levels of emotional abuse are just off the charts.
Please revisit this! It’s only gotten creepier.
I reckon his wife left him because of his sociopathic behavior
If you get cheated on just break up and move on. Nothing you do to them will make you feel better in the long run trust me. What will make you feel better is just getting away from that person.
Yeah, and incentivizes them to continue cheating with someone else.
@@Lobsterwithinternet How does that incentivize them? Being broken up with is an incentive to do that again? It’s not your job to try to control a cheater and prevent them from doing that again. That would have to be a decision they make themselves. Save yourself the headache and save your mental health by just moving on.
@@iamhereblossom1588 Move on to what?
@@Lobsterwithinternet Literally fucking anything?
@@fematrailer Like not getting into another relationship? Yeah, just replace it with knitting. That will totally solve it. 🙄
the way he acts/treated her, i’m not surprised she cheated on him, she was probably scared of leaving him, she’d been with him so long from a young age she probably felt dependant on him especially being isolated with just him for so long, and their relationship forming from a fan/idol perspective
It's kinda hard to say that she "cheated" on him when they were in an open relationship. I think he was mad that she was able to sleep with more people than him. He even admits that she "ruined his chance to sleep with a more beautiful, brilliant chinese speaking woman". That guy is just a disgusting narcissist...
Exactly. It's not even cheating anymore once it becomes an abuser victim relationship. The victim is no longer in a consensual relationship to even be cheating on. The victim often can't even leave the relationship because abusers become super dangerous when that happens
Never an excuse for cheating though. Leave or stay are your only two options not deserving of losing your teeth, man or woman.
@@ewrgaming when you’ve been groomed like that leaving often. isn’t a safe option
@@magdalena_dewintershe's also grooming him
This guy is a full-blown Narcissist. He checks every box.
Of course he wont leave her, he will just punish her everyday blaming her for every failure in his life .
He blamed her for not having a career , this man has been on permanent study his whole life ! He has never held down a job! He has never finished and university study either apparently he's too intelligent !
He says no one will employ him after this, does he not understand the reason anyone know about it is because he has put it on his channel.
Oh but he is a stand up comedian now!
And Melissa chooses to stay 🤷🏾
How the fuck is he managing to afford shit??
@@TisDansk his mother is loaded, told him he’ll never have to work
@@TisDansk He comes from a very rich family and gets an allowance each month.
The amount of people confused by the bananas.... it's intentional. He's trying to humiliate her further by including a phallic object.
Or Is he implying the whole thing is "bananas" 😂
He has bananas in the background of almost all his videos. I remember Freelee doing that too.
'Ok, you're having a breakdown? Wait, wait, let me get my bananas before we film' 🤦.....somehow that detail is the MOST deranged thing........
i just thought they were there for comedic relief 😭
Oh shit…
I’ve always disliked posting public freakouts/breakdowns. Especially when it’s clear there is mental illness involved. Having your lowest point archived on the internet just seems so distressing to me
Same here, I always hated public freakout/breakdowns and I never ever found it funny, even when that type of content was popular (such as when DaddyOFive was trending). It feels like an invasion of piracy and a lot of it was abusive. :(
Bro acts like she gave him a lobotomy not like she cheated on him 😂
@catqueen235so a wife cheats, now a man loses his family, is forced to pay money to the sick woman who cheated on him, his kids are now taken away from him and good portion of his life is gone.
@@shoooja They have no kids, she clearly didnt want to leave him and he aint paying her shit with those youtube checks. Also, they were in an OPEN RELATIONSHIP.
@@shoooja A man doesn't have to lose his family just because a wife cheats and divorces. You get shared custody in the *least* .
@@shoooja There is a solution to that: break up with her. Don't make a spectacle online about this, especially if you're a 40 yo man. And before you say "oh I bet this only applies to women since you are a woman", no, I find it disgusting when both men and women do this type of sh*t
@@shoooja What child?? They don't even have a child wtf
this is a classic codepenent relationship... they both most likely will need years of therapy on their own to break their maladaptive behaviors and thought patterns
This is the third time in a row where in my mind I go “haven’t seen scare theater in a minute, let’s go watch some of his videos.” Then I go to his channel and he literally just posted a video. It’s getting scary
ScareTheater is stalking you, waiting for you to open his channel so he can post at that exact second.
YES
Literally the same thing with me I thought this, this morning seen there was nothing and then tonight notification
I love synchronicities like that!! 😊
Literally watched 7 videos in a row, ran over to nexpo, got this notification and came right back lmaoo
As someone who has been cheated on, sexially abused, and mentally abused at first i sympathized with this dude. But after hearing how he dealt with the situation and the fact that they were in an open relationship really shows that context matters. He reminds me of my ex who did the things i previously mentioned and it feels like hes trying to compensate for things he has done, he probably is an abuser too.
THEY WERE IN AN OPEN RELATIONSHIP???? okay yeah no any shred of sympathy i had left for him is out the window, from the sounds of "what she did" she didnt even physically do anything with anyone she just masturbated on camera. this guy is absolutely dragging as much as he can out of it to be dramatic. ive seen this happen before with others, hes blowing it way out of proportion because he knows she has no other options.
@@Ahnock your comment is very telling how you don't understand the concept of poly relationships.
"probably" wow you are sick
@@ef5supercellYeah, that 95% of them end up going badly.
Most times when someone asks for an open relationship, either that person is already cheating on you or that person is planning to cheat on you anyway.
I think you just unlocked a core memory because I could have sworn his ex mentioned he was abusive? I could be wrong but I remember when the vegan drama on UA-cam was at its peak and his ex privately messaged Vegan Cheetah to help her in their divorce, she mentioned that I think
I don't believe a single thing he says about her or a single thing she "admitted" on camera while he was in the same room. Dude is a psychopath.
I was thinking the same thing, the public humiliation, the forced phonecalls, the berating and shaming. I wonder how much of it was true at all tbh. Or of he was just projecting. Weirder still even if it were true and they were in an open relationship but she had to pass every picture and message sent by him? Reminds me of a lot of guys who want open relationships until their female partner find someone else. Then suddenly it's bad and cheating. Him shouting about the "smarter hotter" women he could have been with just adds to that.
@@UnbirthdayHatterEXACTLY
Problem is this, she could have left but she kept returning
Lmao so she couldn't have cheated? What nonsense is this?
@@Adjudicus didn't say she couldn't have. Simply that I'm not inclined to believe it. Thats why they don't accept confessions made under duress.
He is the dictionary definition of an abusive narcissist. Everything is about him and nothing else. He loves that he can control her.
He also sounds like a real crazy-maker; the roots of her difficult behaviour could very well come from his treatment of her throughout the years.
This is abuse, yes, but the titles shaming the woman are really giving off like...those weird fetish/kink videos you'd find on tiktok or facebook. Yknow what I mean????? Like why is he just fixated on it like that.
I hope someone gets what I mean because I am terrible with words 😭
24:14 i have to agree :(
This feels so surreal
Seeing into these random people's lives makes you wonder how many households/relationships look like this
Also, i guess the surrealism is a kind that can only exist with the internet but especially with UA-cam
Probably a lot more than you realize.
It should also make you wary of putting your own dirty laundry on the internet and be happy nobody knows about your worst moments.
Definitely a narcissist
No shit Sgerlock
@@Lollero200q “nO SHiT SgErLoCK” 🥴
@@internetstranger666 Sherlock
What is a narcissist ?
@@masterDarts4188 if you relate to daffodil latin name
I love how scare theatre isn't even reading off a script towards the end. He's just so genuinely confused by the guy's mindset lol
Believe it or not most of the lines here were in the script, but the lines came across as so genuine since my thoughts were written in a way that when the time of recording came around it felt as if I weren't reading a script because of how emotion-filled the whole thing was lol
Understanding this guys mind set is something a room full of psychologist's would be able to study.. He's all over the place..
Eisel made a reply to this video after just a few hours, dudes definitely a narcissist. I really hope you make a follow up to this where you summarize his reply and refute it because I can’t physically watch his response video without going into fight or flight mode. Abuse is real and Eisel’s abuse towards Melissa is a prime example of the worst kinds of it. The man was definitely a manipulative person from day one, he didn’t just wake up one day and decide to be Andrew Tate incarnate.
The videos where he is humiliating her leads me to believe he threatened her to do this because she seems so scared the entire time.
she's the victim here. so many red flags on that guy I ran out of fingers
Let me guess: Is because he's 14 years older, right?.
Both psychos
No. She's a grown woman who is capable of making her own decisions. She isn't being held hostage. She's probably just as shitty a person as he is.
@@toumabyakuya You know you're probably right. I was going to assume it was by Default bc she's female and this is the internet. But likely both are true sadly. Tbf guy seems like a D-bag
@@toumabyakuya
No, because he's a fking narcissist.
Why are there bananas in the background of some of these videos? 🤣 can't be an accident.
Potassium deficiency
I have no idea lmao
yeah hold on a minute whats up with that. its the same bananas, too, one of the top ones is longer than the ones under it.
was looking for this comment!! they're so distracting
It's intentional. They're phallic, he's trying to humiliate her.
I had a relation like this. He wanted I "confess" things and brainwashed me into thinking I was crazy and malevolent.
The forced confession is a CLASSIC in abusive relationship.
This video was awful to watch. It took me back to denial lane. I remember very well my ex violence and coercion. He tried, but I didn't die. I escaped. Fortunately.
So glad you escaped I can relate to this as well.
Hey, this also took me down scary ex memory lane! I hope you are healing too❤
Gosh it did for me too, I had a strange relationship with someone but the brainwashing and confessing to things, often in front of others for some reason really hit a nerve with me. I really hope she gets out of that nightmare because no one deserved this level of bs in their lives.
update: apparently they have split for good and she’s flown back home to family and he’s still going on his high and mighty rants. so hopefully they can both get the help they need
Unfortunately I looked and it appears they might have gotten back together
How could she be a "cheater" if they're in an "open relationship"? It's Eisel's Idea to be in a "polyamorous" relationship and he's constantly bragging about how many opportunities he has to bag these gorgeous women who come onto him, whilst making Melissa feel less than from the beginning of their relationship. She is not his equal in her own head so she wanders off to find the guy online that will lust after her and compliment her. She wouldn't have done what she did if "emotionally, intellectually" she didn't see herself as less than in Eisel's eyes. I am not a fan of him or her agreeing to put herself out on camera to be verbally flogged by Eisel, that's so unnecessary. He acts like he's the victim in this whole scenario. Frankly, it's pathetic. Not a good look on him or her. Eisel is gonna ride this BS about being "cheated on" for clickbait, and he doesn't care how low it makes them both look as to how they handle their indiscretions.
It is possible to cheat in an open relationship, it just depends on what rules you put down when you agree to open things up. Poly ettiquette suggests that you tell your primary when you start seeing someone new; it's important for your health to know what you may or may not be exposed to, and how to trace it. However, maybe one of you has a kink or something about not knowing, in which case, not telling them when you sleep with someone new would be part of your regular ruleset.
However, his reaction feels, to me, like a lot of "polyamorous" men in the community: they want a license to sleep around, but their partners should only sleep with them.
As someone who was once cheated on while in a polyamorous relationship there is some nuance but it can be done. My previous partner and I had a written agreement that we could see other people, but we had to discuss it first, and the other person could say no at any time. My partner then went on to see other people without telling me any information, not even a name, and I’d find out through mutual friends.
These are supposedly for his... daughter?!? uh huh. That's terrifying on it's own but beyond that, why does he think anyone else would care? So many problems with all of this. She sounds like a hostage victim reading lines to make people believe, just wow. I'm not sure about her but I really despise him.
this is textbook narcissism coming from him. as someone who's been treated horribly my whole life by a narcissist, this video hits very close to home and is terrifying. his ego was so bruised and the only thing concerning him was his reputation to the point where he felt the need to share absolutely every intimate detail of his relationship problems w the internet in an attempt to repeatedly shame and ridicule her for his own gain and enjoyment. him portraying himself as some kind of "hero" for choosing to date her and settle when she's an "average" woman when he supposedly has more beautiful women at his disposal is just despicable and tells me everything i need to know abt him. also, him calling her meltdowns "tantrums" and making jokes abt them? as an autistic person myself, if my partner did that, i'd be horrified. a single red flag is too small for him...he's an entire universe painted red
Everyone is a narcissist nowadays
@NickyBlue99 no people just diagnose each other
Can wr please stop demonizing disabled people it is driving me up the wall. They're not narcissists, they're just assholes. Saying "they're disabled that's why they're an asshole" gives them an excuse. Dont give them that excuse!
@@NickyBlue99no, we’re sociopaths
I'm so sorry for all you've been through.
I hope shes okay. What the fuck. How did this guy manage to brainwash or have this much control over her that she was willing to get humilated on video to be posted for everyone to see.
I have no professional qualifications in making this observation but it looks to me like codependency & they both need help in different ways
@@ashleybrooke2087 yeah the problem I'm already seeing in the comments is that because one is angry and one is crying, then the one that's angry must be doing the worst thing and is thus THE abuser.... Which is just not how any of this works. Society isn't ready to make sense of this sort of thing
@@backwardsbandit8094 You can literally watch him being abusive to her, videoing your partner crying and humiliating/ mentally torturing them to post online is abuse no matter what. She didn't even 'cheat' if it was an open relationship, the guys a psycho. I do agree they are both probably mentally ill, but one is quite obviously more abusive.
Start with a girl with already low self esteem or insecurities and a bit codependent.
Then love bomb her, get her away from everything she knows, and slowly start belittling her and chipping away at her self worth more.
Codependency is the glue that holds these types of relationships together, and boy is it strong.
This is psychological abuse and Melissa needs to run fast and far from this man.
I know this tune. She's his supply. Being mentally ill and insecure only makes it easier for him to groom her for abuse. The constant threat of breakups is his way of keeping her in line.
Him having no access to his daughter is very telling.
I feel like the only real positive that comes from exposure of this kind of private business & relationship revelations is that it might allow some people to recognize toxic behaviors in their own interactions whether it be theirs or that of other people so they can work on themselves or finding ways of dealing with others that create these kinds of situations.
Even then, drama exposition still makes me uncomfortable most of the time.
Definition of a controlling relationship. Power imbalance is off the charts when you factor in the age difference, physical size and strength, the isolation of being away from friends and family and anything remotely familiar, him slowly belittling her over time, eroding her self worth. Then add to that the public humiliation, which can be extremely psychologically damaging to someone, especially under these circumstances.
You can see how codependent she is with him, when he talks about leaving her. He knows that he can make her do anything he wants, because she has no life outside of him.
Then you consider that he is kind of exploiting her, shaming her and pointing out all of her "wrongdoings" to his audience. He seems very vindictive, controlling, and quick to anger. This guy is bad news!
Oh, he goes one better. Check out the email he's supposedly sent to her father. a-bas-le-ciel.blogspot.com/2024/04/a-short-email-to-melissas-dad-wayne.html
I don’t think these videos are a sign of any “change” because he seemed different when his wife left him. To me, his videos seem like he has always wanted to play the victim. It just kind of makes you wonder if his wife left him for similar reasons to what we’re seeing play out now…
That's totally fair, and definitely a thought I had while making this video. In the original script I did have a line saying something along the lines of, "maybe his ex-wife left him and took the kid because of this behavior", but I ended up not including that line because I didn't feel like it was fair to make any assumptions about his past relationship since I couldn't directly see what happened there. His relationship with Melissa is another story since he has thoroughly documented the ways in which he has abused her.
You're so right, especially his bullshit story about how he didn't get custody. Fathers have to request custody/visitation and the court provides it around 87% of the time, he had to have done some vile shit to lose those priviliges
You gotta do a part 2, it's gotten so much worse since you made this. They broke up, Melissa moved back to America, but it looks like Eisel is still forcing her to make videos of her shaming herself.
_Him: Narcissistic Personality Disorder_
_Her: Codependent_
Totally agree.
The first thing that struck me about this is him referring to her meltdowns as "tantrums" and being very dismissive.
As someone with autism I have a lot of meltdowns. If my partner was dismissing me and using that kind of language to describe my meltdowns, and TALKING ABOUT THEM PUBLICLY LIKE THAT, that would be a MAJOR red flag for me.
Throughout the entire relationship he treats her like a child. He's so egotistical and narcissistic that to him it just seems natural that he'd be the one in charge of everything. Like others have said, he is a walking bucket of red flags.
I'm autistic and I've got to ask, how can you have all of that? Are you sure you've not been misdiagnosed? It's actually quite common nowadays.
@azalago The age gap between them, under most circumstances, probably wouldn't bother me.
But he clearly DOES see her as vastly inferior to him, and maybe she is, idk. The question I have is why would anyone WANT to be with someone so emotionally immature UNLESS they see oppertunities for control and manipulation.
@@Mere-Lachaiselongue Because my brain hates me.
@@Mere-Lachaiselongue I'm 90% sure I have autism (tested by a psychologist but not diagnosed) but the way some people just list out these disorders and collect them like pokemon. I just can't take it seriously.
Especially adhd because it's the most "trendy" one and it gets misdiagnosed the most
This man seems scary from the moment he appears on screen. When he said "why am I not a buddhist?" I responded to the screen "because it's clear you've got anger issues." Edited to add: I've been through divorce, custody and child support proceedings, and what he's saying about non-response is not true. If I didn't respond to an email within 24hrs I could be taken to court. Melissa seems really young...oh gosh he's a monster. And probably one of the most insecure men on youtube.
Umm, did you watch the entire video? Because Melissa might not be that innocent either.
@@toumabyakuya well I guess that justifies his abuse, because she is not perfect? man get the f out
@@rhogal8310don't put words in his mouth, you're the only one talking about justification, weirdo
@@rhogal8310He never insinuated justification of any kind. If you are right here, why do you feel the need to twist his words?
@@trels203 I don't feel a need to twist his words I simply observed that he is going around other comments kinda suggesting between the lines that people being critical of this guy are wrong. That's it and I really don't care if you can't see that its not like it matters in the grand scheme of things.
I could've sworn during the intro that Eisel was TheGamerFromMars.
I can totally hear that
Holy shit same
Arthur is way too gentle of a soul to do anything like that, but my heart skipped a beat.
Eisel has many channels with very low views. His gaming channel that I know of is called "veganvania".
The only channel he let's the comments section open. Lol
He's a creep. Has. Been for 10 years. Likes to harass vegan women. Google eisel mazard
The self professed "dissident intellectual " that no one can stand.
Me too lmao I headed for the comments to see if anyone else picked up on it
Currently in the process of trying to get his channel taken down. Will update.
Also, if there's any Canadians here, I recommend trying to ascertain their city.
IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY LAW ENFORCEMENT.
There needs to be a WELFARE CHECK done IMMEDIATELY.
This is clear cut psychopathy and he is going to snap sooner rather than later.
If you find anything on him,
NOTIFY THE POLICE.
Canadian here, I can definitely try.
yeah he's going to unalive her one day if she doesn't leave...
how's it going with all that? from what I've been able to find I don't think it would be too difficult to find out where they are. The problem will be getting anyone to do anything, especially since the victim doesn't seem ready to accept help (unfortunately)
@@johnfreeman9349 I have some hopeful news, according to last video this guy uploaded she finally left him.
Open/Poly relationships are such a farce lmao
I agree. Statistically most open relationships fail. The only way in which they could potentially work out is if both partners agreed to it being open from the very beginning. But if it something that is proposed a couple years into the relation, then the relationship is already over.
to be his age and still so uncomfortable in ur own skin...
a genuinely miserable person
Jesus, this has so many red flags I can almost hear the Soviet anthem.
He's a narcissist she needs to run.. okay she was bad again for not being open.. maybe she was trying to escape him even if it meant hiding her activities.
Honestly we only have his word that she actually did this things. I lean towards it being a lie.
@@lindsayschmidt2177 I don't know what kind of planet you're own I survived narcism from my parents and one of my ex's in their late years the age gap was triple. I'm pretty aware how narcissist people behave and in these clips shown to us I can definitely see and hear someone who's very controlling, insecure, projecting, a big bully and a manipulator. Is she any better to lie no but then again we don't know how much worse things were off camera you got to hold that possibility that whatever's shown on camera may NOT even be everything like most people recording their demeanor or tried to sometimes we see very little and not the full truth comes out. You can have your opinion and that's fine but to me since I've known how narcissists are like I can definitely say it's like watching a puppet with a puppeteer. They both need help in all aspects because of how much trauma they felt that led them down these two different paths. You can feel sorry for them you could also see them as trash too but at the end of the day their actions were truly unjustified.
@@lindsayschmidt2177 yeah cause he MADE HER say these things out loud, you do realize people like this will exaggerate the story more. My ex was like this but with social services he pretended to be me and his ex who got me to meet him (long story) worked together to forge it to get away with stuff. This was done through phone call that got cut short and they used my email to send to london social care leavers.
He is so reddit coded it actually hurts my insides
From my personal experience (my mom has been poly all 30+ years of my life), men wanting to be in an "open relationship" is _very_ often a man who just wants a license to sleep with other partners. Yes, in a real poly relationship, you do keep your primary partner informed when you start to see someone new, it's only polite. But his anger is *classic* of a man who wants to sleep around, but wants a woman to keep around for status, so when she *does* act on their open policy, his ego is shattered. I have the strong feeling he doesn't tell Melissa about his other partners, either.
Eisel was "humiliated" by his first wife taking charge of her and their daughter's life and leaving him, so he has to exert as much power as possible on any partner he has in order to avoid that perceived humiliation again; if he doesn't suffer from NPD, he's definitely picked up fleas. Melissa exhibits some of the classic behavior of someone who's been cheated on/been in an abusive relationship, and it makes sense to me that she'd want to gravitate toward a man that seemed to have it all together.
This is the kind of relationship that ends up on a true crime podcast; toxic, controlling, sociopathic behavior never makes for a good mix when you've got a hostage in a foreign country.
If my girlfriend cheated on me, I'd just break up with her and move on, not psychologically torture her for months over it. At a certain point, you should walk away from a relationship that clearly isn't working, not turn it into an abusive situation that's clearly making you both miserable.
My thoughts about these two are that He's a Sadistic Narc and she's got low self-esteem issues with Masochistic tendencies. He always talks over her and she seems to stutter to get the words out. I've watched his channel for many years and know the back story of how she's a fan girl of his and he has always had a wandering eye and sees her as his intellectual inferior.
While this is definitely an unhealthy situation for both parties, those are both very strong diagnoses for a layman to be labeling strangers without correct procedures and tests.
It hurts more than it helps. Please consider this 🙏
I could only watch snippets of this video bcs of how disturbing and sad it is.. I check this crazy guy channel and he made a response to scare theater 25 min ago… he is truly deranged and I’m sorry but Melissa has ruined her life by choosing to be with this monster. Funny how apperantly 6 days ago he made a video called “ lying cheating w***” and now he makes a video with the girl to respond to scare theater saying everything is alright. So scared for the girl:/. The world keeps gettin crazier
I felt that narcissistic shit to my core. My father is a narcissist and a pathological liar. He lied about being a Marine, he lied about having an in for me to have a music career and essentially kept me hostage for years, he even lied to me and everyone he knew about having cancer. He cheated on my mom with a new woman every week and just kept dragging this harem of poor dependent mentally scarred women behind him in order to get money from them, meanwhile he somehow "never had the money to buy groceries". I found out by meeting one if his girlfriends at the time, he had been buying her diamonds and taking her on expensive dates while I was fighting to skip meals every day so my little brother could eat. And he's autistic so he can't feed himself most of the time. When I went to the bar he worked at with his now ex-girlfriend to confront him, he started telling everyone he knew that I was crazy and that I was on meth to try to get them to not listen to me. My poor mother was so worked to the bone and psychologically beaten down by him over the years that she went numb and just locked herself away in her room and lived on vr. He liked that because then he could use all of her money. One day this January, he got all pissy and tried to berate us for not taking the trash to the dump, which he never asked us to do and had never been one of our responsibilities (my bf and I) saying. "I do everything around here and nobody else does a goddamn thing" and when my bf tried to tell him off for not acknowledging everything everyone else does, and trying to take credit for things his lazy ass never does, he stood up and tried to attack him. I had to physically jump in the way. My mom was there to see it. So after dad barrelled off (he usually did that and then calls one of us to yell at us for not trying to stop him) I told my mom everything. Because she had isolated herself, she had no idea he was abusing us. So sneakily over the course of a week, we all packed together while he was at work (and in the process found forged divorce documents, and traffic tickets in my name for an escalade I did not own). We finally escaped him, my bf and I have a home together, I'm making music, animations, and art commissions, my mom is learning to overcome her anxiety, has a very good paying job, and has a blooming social life for the first time in years, and my little brother's speech is improving every day and he is learning to show signs of affection without being uncomfortable. Dad lost his job, lost almost all of his friends, and keeps begging my mom to give him my new phone number, but he won't ever hear from me again. No matter how health problems he claims now. I have an actual family now and an actual life without him. My mother, brother, bf, and I are so much happier now that he is out of our lives. unfortunately, he's back to manipulating more women, and even went to Vegas wile the four of us were homeless (this was right after we all had left), but I mean wtf ever. I have my guitars, I have my dog, and I have my new and improved family. Sorry about the rant. I'm still healing from all this so I love to go on and on about it when it eats at me. I hope everyone else out there is well, genuinely. I often think on the complexities of human life and how amazing it is that we are all collectively living life for the first time. Be kind to each other, don't be afraid to step out of your comfort zone, and I love you ScareTheater! My bf and I have been watching your vids for yeeeaarss now. I hope you enjoy making these videos as much as I love watching them. Internet careering can be very taxing so take care of youself man.
Honestly, I do not give a sh*t about the age difference, age-gap relationships exist, and people need to get over it. The problem with their relationship is everything else.
As a Psychology major currently going for their masters, I can sum this up for you here because I know of very similar cases. He’s a narcissist, number one. He has a messiah complex. (Let me save you from yourself) He’s very abusive and knows he is. She’s probably bipolar or suffers from some kind of attachment disorder. They’re both very aware of the attention they’re getting. he’s probably more adamant about keeping up with the content than she is but she goes along with it. She’s being abused and sadly probably accepts it because women who come from broken homes tend to settle for abuse and make drastic moves (moving to china and letting him shame her in the videos). She probably suffers from Stockholm syndrome, judging by her delusion of him being bigger than he actually is on YT. So yes, there’s abuse happening and until she decides to leave, it’ll continue.
Way to go, Isel. Now your daughter will watch your videos and *really* undestand why her mom has left you!
I would bet he did this shit to his ex as well, just privately without uploading it to youtube. From the beginning I was wondering why they divorced and she got custody of their daughter.
You can be a shit mom and still get custody of the child. Him not getting custody doesn't mean anything. You're just assuming at that point.
@@koibitothescrublord4977true, but his behavior here makes you atleast question exactly what led to his ex-wife divorcing/leaving him
@@GorillaWithACellphone we can never know for certain, especially with how he seems to twist things so even if he gave the full story it would likely still be not the whole truth. but yeah, the way he's handling his current relationship doesn't paint the previous one in a very good light considering he lost custody. if this is how he treats his partner i cant imagine his daughter having it any better had she grown up living with him. i doubt he'd see her as anything other than something that is "his" to use and abuse for his channel.
@@GorillaWithACellphoneBro look at statistics women leave the marriages the vast majority of times and rarely does it involve abuse.
If that were the case there be a record of it on the courts.
You guys are just being biased 🙄
@@Ahnockwe can, stuff like this is always asked by a lawyer during divorce.
There's no way she wouldn't have mentioned it during a 4 year proceeding.
Only 2 minutes into this video, that man is abusive and she was too scared to leave. I feel bad for her.
with the age gap and the way he talks like he is superior to her, I can almost see where her behavior comes from, of course that's not an excuse, but it's clear he chose a young and vulnerable woman to maintain a power over her.
Holy crap this man is a walking red flag already. So many alarm bells.
I’ve been watching his channels for years.
But a bas le ciel is an unreliable narrator. And very egotistical!!
I think he's more a narcissist, a liar and a bully.
I know you're probably just trying to be thorough but I don't think 24:40 is appropriate to comment on her being "incredibly difficult" while we are watching her live through an extremely abusive relationship. She is being controlled, torn down, shamed and humiliated in front of an audience while he monetizes the whole thing. I understand that we don't know these people in real life and can't speak for certain on every detail, but what is being shown is clear cut abuse. Anyone going through severe abuse like this would be "difficult". He asked her to leave her family and friends to move to a country where she can't even talk to the people around her and the only person she has is psychologically torturing her.
Yeah, this guy is a textbook narcissist... And like most narcissists - he will never seek help or accept a diagnoses! To be honest - I don't think it's fair to make any assumptions about Mellisa based on the videos uploaded to Eisel's channel because it's all his one sided narrative. He's clearly an extremely manipulative person with a massive ego and delusions of grandeur. I think it's obvious he was attracted to Melissa because she's young, naive and easily manipulated.
It's really sad watching someone being emotionally abused like this. An extremely toxic relationship.
something about this is so fishy, it feels kinda fetishy in some way to me. like theres a really big psychosexual/power dynamic element to this that goes beyond just “relationship conflict”… the public humiliation, obsession with “cheating” (specifically with other men - and let’s not forget this is supposed to be an open relationship), the age gap and “superior intellect”, it all just feels so specific and deliberate in a way that doesn’t come off as a normal conflict.
It is
someone get Melissa outta there bro
I've had a relationship where my ex did something similar to me. This whole video had me spiraling.
This poor woman.
I wish she had taken legal action on him.
Dude is a textbook narcissist.
I don’t think people are really taking in how sick this video is.
The entire video is just humiliation with his gf/wife, back against the wall, looking like a hostage.
He hits all the hallmarks of a narcissist. He despises critiques, he “establishes” intellectual hierarchy and sees himself as “better” than most people.
You said yourself though, we are hearing most of these stories through HIS perspective. He brought this much younger fan of his to a country far away from any support system she could have had, where she doesn't speak the language and probably doesn't know the culture and where she will completely have to rely on him. Idk if this is flying any red flags for anyone else but these are textbook signs of an abuser. My abusive ex did something extremely similar to me. Even if she does seem difficult, we don't get to hear why she might be acting that way. We hear HIS perspective. So maybe he did something that caused her to feel a certain way and act out but even if he didn't and it's just that she does have some mental condition, another textbook sign of an abuser is to target the vulnerable. Like maybe a much younger girl with mental health issues. Again, my abusive ex targeted me because of my own mental health struggles. It's easier to trap and manipulate and abuse someone when they come out looking like, "the crazy one." The way she wants to be loved by him so badly that she's willing to let him humiliate her like this, that tells me that she does have mental health issues and he knows that and is using that against her in order to make her do these degrading things. This is a disgusting human being and I hope and pray that his daughter sees this scumbag for the man he really is. It's so funny because he's just made that easier for her by posting all of this stuff. Narcissism at it's finest.
I can see why Melissa's reactions to the negative feedback seem genuine to you, and it's because they are. Let me explain:
I appreciate the conclusion you drew at the end of the video. This guy is clearly a narcissist in the way that he portrays Melissa and the events that occur in his life. He projects his own negative qualities onto everybody else and expects them to take the blame. Melissa is in what is described as a trauma bond. It's a vicious cycle that narcissists put their victims through that causes them to be literally addicted to their abuser through phases of idealization, devaluation, discarding, and hoovering typically.
True narcissism is not talked about enough in the mental health world. It's a serious problem that a lot of victims don't even realize the signs of until it's too late and the majority of mental health experts aren't trained to handle properly. Narcissism can be hard to diagnose as well because of how well a narcissist manipulates situations to their advantage
Are you joking, narcissism seems to be the most go to label now a days.
What I don't buy is Melissa's act.
She has the means to leave and chooses to stay. And don't give me that trauma bond nonsense. The girl is pushing 30 she's not a kid.
HAAN.. how can she leave? She is in a foreign country; she can’t work there because she is illegal living there;, he control the only cell phone in his name; she has no friends, no money and no way to contact her parents for help without him knowing.
How can she leave? She doesn’t know the social programs for Canadian citizens. She probably is eligible for them anyway.
She is his prisoner.
They are definitely trauma bonded, been there and got out. This is an extreme situation. When you are trauma bonded you can't just leave for many reasons, safety being the biggest concern. When you are trauma bonded to a Narcissist your body is chemically addicted to the stress, trauma, humiliation, pain, etc. So going back is the familiarity instead of finding your way out. It's not easy as just leaving the relationship.
@@lisakarma7317 Definitely! And nobody is saying Melissa doesn't have her own issues. That's precisely what narcissists see in their victims. They exploit that weakness, which is what intensifies the effect of the trauma bond on the victim
@@gameplayer77801 exactly that, she's no Saint. Not one person is syaing she doesn't have any responsibility or accountability. I find people who haven't been trauma bonded done quite understand the complexity of it.
Eric i just wanna say that im happy that youre back and that i appreciate every bit of work you put into your channel
Thank you! I really appreciate that
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Hi, yeah, this is abuse! This man is actively documenting his abuse of his partner. Jesus. I genuinely hope she manages to escape from him.
Are you sure ? I couldn’t tell
@ScareTheatre I really hope you do an update on this video. Since you made this, they broke up and she moved back to America. It’d be cool if you could track the woman down and she tells her side of things without influence from him. Also I’m pretty sure the guy is making fake accounts and commenting on his own videos about the break up making it look like he’s so great and she’s so bad etc.
Ahhh, good old fashion narcissistic abuse. Run, girl, run. Fast.
I think he might be beating/hurting her, notice that she wears a lot of clothing like scarves and coats while inside the house? Maybe that's to cover up bruises and stuff.
But why is there always bananas on the counter?
I could be wrong but melissa could display a few bpd traits. Now regarding Eisal, narcissism is putting it lightly, he could very well show signs of having an extreme case of narcissistic personality disorder. Both need some sort of psychological help anyways.
That Guy that does things covered him I recently saw his video on him. It’s very sickening how he makes her go on camera she obviously made a mistake and I think she isn’t safe
Why is Melissa even with Eisel? He's 14 years older than him, not particularly good looking (he looks like Uncle Lester), not particularly rich (as far as I can tell), and not particularly smart or charming (despite what he wants to believe). She could do better.
He looks like Gru in despicable me
My guess is that she, as a fan of his videos, thought he had his shit together and wanted some stability. She strikes me as someone who's been in an abusive relationship/cheated on before, and maybe hoped that this content creator she likes wouldn't be like that.
Based on his most recent video they broke up, thank god.
I hope