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She Hulk: "This is my show"
Tywin Lannister: "If you have to declare it's your show, it's not your show"
*Jennifer shoots Tywin with crossbow*
Looks at camera: See, like I said, my show
I said to myself when she said that.
*slow clap*
~ Apex Homosexual
@@sithsaiyan4529 Nice Mayuri profile picture!
Having Daredevil show up just to immediately find this version of Jen attractive and hook up with her was such a fan fiction move
So… a blind guy thinks she’s attractive? 🤔
This shows that only a blind guy can like Jen
Mlkh MB n
Iwynk I’ll OUIUiutwa S oops
Also remember how Matt is actually a devout Catholic? And having a backbone of faith is something that actually affects the decisions he makes in his life as both a lawyer and superhero? Yeah, THAT Matt Murdock has a one-night-stand with a woman he’s only really known about for less than three days. Thanks Marvel. Fuck off.
Isnt Daredevil supossed to be catholic?
she hulk- it's very daring to use mustard and ketchup as a color scheme.
daredevil - what's color you ableist monster.
How much you want to bet they chose that outfit specifically for a 'hilarious' blind joke they wrote but had to take it out last minute?
Matt knows what colors are, he wasn't born blind. Still, pretty insensitive.
best comment in a generation.
Who dressed you? Ray Charles?
@@Hexensohn 😂 that made me crackle
SHE-HULK: The bad guys are everyone who thinks my show is bad!!
ALSO SHE-HULK: (burst into writers room) Why is my show so bad!??
Basically the antagonist of the show was ultimately the writers
She never said that.
She said incels are the villains.
If you feel offended by that, maybe you should re-examine your life.
@@Dragonage2ftw Yes, because being offended by someone shit talking something they feel they have no control over isn't what they're going to do. lol No, they're going to be offended, and they probably won't re-examine their life. They'll probably go shoot something up, but no probs, just keep poking the bears. Not like you'll ever be in one of those situations and considering most cops are pussies now. I hope you're pro-carry, cause lotta these clowns got chips on their shoulders.
@@Dragonage2ftw Stop defending it man it's not helping this show was one of the worst shows ever made that's why you see people trashing it everywhere and the ratings are so bad
@@Dragonage2ftw Dude they literally used criticism of the show that fundamentally makes no sense in universe as lines for the "incels". The writers were preemptively calling anyone who criticized the show incels. To pretend otherwise is gaslighting and dishonest of you.
Normally I wouldn't immediately assume you're being disingenuous, but if you were really this unintelligent as to not realize this, you wouldn't be able to operate a phone or comprehend language.
Reminder that Jennifer never apologized to Bruce for insulting him and his experiences as an abuse survivor, a superhero and a Hulk, and quite literally broke reality to avoid accountability for her actions, and rewrote people's memories to that end.
We are at the point where Kingdom Hearts - _another_ Disney property - dealt with the moral quandaries of altering people's memories and personalities more than a billion-dollar multi-movie/show franchise.
She-Hulk is officially the most despicable character in the MCU. At least Wanda's despicable actions were _acknowledged._
Didn't No Way Home also involve dealing with the consequences for trying to alter everyone's memories? It wasn't perfect; the whole movie could've been avoided if the spell had been, "Everyone will forget the Mysterio video and everything in it that each of them didn't already know", but the consequences for the mishandled spell were there.
@@matthewmuir8884 Or if Doctor Strange asked Peter, "So how is any of that a magical emergency?"
@@matthewmuir8884 the video would still be in the possession of Jameson and the Daily Bugle, so that can't really work. I would have preferred this lead to a guy wanting to "bring Spiderman to justice," and that guy becomes Scorpion.
Didnt Kingdom hearts already deal with the morality of changing memories back in like 2004 ish? Don't exactly remember when Chain of memories came out.
@@grandarkfang_1482 well that plothole is true of the movie as is then
“How do you write female superheroes so well?”
“I think of a male superhero, and I take away reason and accountability.”
That quote has become so relevant these days it's off the chart.
Brace yourself for Melvin.
And all of the driving ability
@@joil6649 Brother of the Joker
The fact that they had the balls to put that line in the trailer is legendary.
So, She-Hulk's finale centers around her demanding to talk to the manager... of reality.
I don't even think I need to say anything at this point.
What's hilarious is She-Hulk is one of the least dualistic superheroes there is. In the comics she's literally She-Hulk 24/7.
Buh-buh-but... muh face time
…No? She acts way different as She Hulk, dude…
@Leon Embers ???
@@Dragonage2ftw tell me you haven't read the pre modern comics without telling me
@@Zerarick The whole point is that She Hulk is a form of escapism for Jen, that she has no confidence in her base form.
I just finished watching Better Call Saul at the time of writing this, a few months after this video was released. After finishing it I was reading up on behind the scenes; the creator and writers didn't know how to write a legal drama so they STUDIED IT. They spent time at courthouses learning how the system works, learning valuable shit like "a lot of time is wasted waiting on other people to file paperwork".
Meanwhile we have it on record that She-Hulk's writers knew nothing about the legal system and did nothing about it, a statement usually followed by "so we studied" or "we hired X to help us" just goes nowhere.
This is the absolute state of writing today. Disney hired literal incompetents who are unqualified for the task because they have the correct politics and identity labels.
"She-Hulk finally stopped" - your most brilliant episode title yet
Don bless.
@@Kernwadi Why didn't you stop this?
@@Lobsterwithinternet I'm not a merciful God...
@@Kernwadi Well, that explains Dracula Untold not getting a sequel.
I still don’t think anything will ever top “Banning Opinions on the Jeb-pilled Leftist Incel podcast”
"I would have the same criticism if she was a man," is a sentiment they're trying to directly associate with sexism. The assumption they're trying to program into the audience is that every single time you hear it (or its equivalent), you automatically know that it is being said disingenuously and that the man saying it is actually a closet sexist. "That's just a thing _they_ say."
And the question then becomes "Then how does a man criticize a woman by an objective co-ed standard, if he wants to avoid using such triggering terminology?" And of course, the answer would be "He doesn't. He doesn't _get_ to criticize women at all, unless he wants to be evil-othered."
Marvel Knights Spider-Man did this interesting thing where hospitals would make it policy to not unmask super people if they could help it. Like if a superhero gets hurt in a battle and gets brought in, they try to protect his identity. But that was to protect THE HOSPITAL. That was to protect the doctors so supervillains wouldn't bust in and try to coerce secret identities from them.
Rekieta truly does represent the arch enemy of she hulk: he understands the law, is an online personality, and has an understanding of websites ala Moon and kiwifarms.
The only thing She-hulk will be remembered for is how openly bitter and resentful those responsible for it were toward the source material, the audience, their boss, men, women, and basically anyone who isn't them.
So that means it’s the next low bar, now everything by comparison will do better, meaning the past bad stuff is now good, and the future stuff will be bad, then good after the next future stuff
=_=
Peter Parker (a child in High School) was more morally torn about erasing people's minds and dealt with the reality and consequences of it better than a University educated 30+ y/o adult woman lawyer.
I love Jen Walters!
Timestamps
0:00 Intelligencia
1:17 Rags Making Noises
1:40 Fringy & Shad
2:40 Black Adam
7:14 Density
7:57 Rags 2.0 Plush
10:24 EFAP 7pm BST
10:57 Let’s get started
11:51 She-Hulk & Toilets
13:37 Jen & The Guy
18:20 The Lawyer Of The Year
22:30 Abomination
34:08 Awkward VFX
36:51 Stuck In The Middle With You
39:19 The Mauler-Animal
45:02 Empowering Woman
49:10 WiFi & Jump
54:04 Platinum
55:04 No Service
55:34 Music
56:41 Superman
57:54 Bullman
58:58Therapy Session
1:18:48 Ending Episode
1:21:24 Previously On
1:24:54 Leapfrog
1:27:20 Lawsplaning
1:34:34 Conflicts
1:37:54 Paperwork
1:40:44 The Trial
1:51:44 Matt Murdoc
1:54:04 Sokovia Accords
2:07:24 How To Competently Solve The Case
2:09:38 How To Competently Run The Show
2:15:08 Government & Avengers
2:19:36 Dismiss The Case
2:22:34 I Hate You
2:23:24 The Bar
2:26:44 Missoportunities
2:30:48 The Spear
2:33:18 The Chase
2:38:14 The Suit
2:40:16 Daredevil vs She-Hulk
2:49:10 Not A Funny Joke
2:57:58 Team Up
3:00:30 Hallway, Crossbows & Guns
3:01:40 DD Jokes
3:02:43 Stealth
3:07:17 She-Hulk Smash
3:10:24 CGI
3:11:54 Rescue
3:16:10 Let’s Get Laid
3:17:14 Walk Of Shame
3:18:06 The Gala
3:24:44 Bills & Salary
3:29:56 Hulking Out
3:37:50 Ending Episode
3:38:28 Fringy & Rekeita: The Ending
3:43:12 Shameless Plug & The Shadcoming
3:45:47 The MSHEU
3:49:18 A Nice Parody
3:53:00 ROP
3:54:47 Consequences
3:58:18 A Different Order
4:02:06 The Best Character (1)
4:02:40 Financial
4:05:30 She-Hulk Sad
4:06:25 The Best Character (2)
4:07:47 The Moron
4:08:29 Feet Fetish
4:09:26 Jen vs Inteligencia
4:13:20 Smug Hulk
4:14:16 Jen Sad
4:15:31 The Video & The Website
4:19:17 Jen & The Book
4:23:43 Writer’s Goals
4:36:26 Repressed Homosexuality
4:40:27 The Meet-Up
4:49:06 Worthiness
4:51:29 Dialogue
4:53:08 Abomination
4:56:00 Jen Arrives
4:57:10 Lawsplaning
4:58:44 Quaid on Mars
5:05:38 Everybody, From Everywhere All At Once
5:09:40 The Contrivance Festival
5:12:27 Breaking The 4th Show
5:22:22 Running From Responsibilities
5:25:30 Kevin & The VFX Controversy
5:30:35 Jen vs Kevin
5:37:02 Who’s Writing The Show?
5:40:27 Rewriting The Ending
5:52:27 Sextoy
5:53:50 Metashits
6:03:33 The New Ending
6:07:34 Abomination Ending
6:13:00 Hulk Family Ending
6:17:51 She Hulk’s Legal Ending
6:21:10 Phase 4 Ending
6:23:24 She Hulk’s Real Power
6:26:20 Conclusions
6:37:56 Where Does It Sits?
6:45:25 Rekeita Observation
6:46:24 Closing Arguments
Good job, Timestamp Daddy 😘
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@@Kernwadi Winnie the pooh at it again 🙏
I love imagining that Fringy, Shad, Robothead, Meme Repository and Internet Historian all live on the same street and they have to fight emu invasions and attempts by horrifyingly venomous snakes taking over
It's happened before...
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War
Anything for Views and Max MoeFoe guard the lands high up in their lookout tower
No wonder IH keeps losing the password of his main channel, he has to constantly change places due to the ever-increasing emu hostility in the area and has to rely on Zucc, Bill Gates and the Queen (RIP) to play games to fill in for him while he's holding them off
Literal reality of living in Australia
Isn't internet historian from New Zealand though?
I'm going to be honest, it bothers me a lot that Daredevil had sex with She-Hulk. Daredevil is a practicing Catholic (unless modern MCU wants to change that), and while that hasn't stopped him from having sex with women he isn't married to in the past, the way it happens in this show is a bit of a stretch. I can totally buy that Daredevil would compromise his Christian morals to have sex with a woman he's in love with, like Electra. I can't believe he'd compromise his morals for a one-night stand with She-Hulk.
Assuming Born Again has him talking with a priest at any point, I'll be wondering why he isn't confessing his night of shame with the jolly green giantess.
I mean, to be fair, if his show's anything to go off of he's quite a player. Foggy constantly makes jokes about how he gets women because he's blind, and after his fight in first episode, Foggy automatically assumes he was sleeping with someone because he woke up late.
The biggest difference is the relationships that are shown on-screen for him all have an importance to the plot and his character. Claire, Elektra, Karen. She-Hulk literally just fucks people because she's horny.
Because its so shameful he doesn't want to disappoint his local priest.
@@funnyman10912 There are some things better left unsaid
He must not be very good at practicing his religion If it doesn't stop him from having sex.. coming up with excuses like "but I loved her" is not a moral justification. Jesus man you fake religious people piss me off, either follow the book or leaver ✌️
that IS something we would see on "30 rock": "welcome to the female lawyer award, not to be confused with the REGULAR lawyer award"
So, this show has the critics and fans as the villains, but then She-Hulk does a Karen and confronts Marvel studios themselves on why the writing is so shit and changes the ending. So the villains aren't the critics, but Marvel studios/Disney themselves for they are the ones creating the products.
Quite fitting, but I dont think the writers realize what they are writing.
They are oblivious to everything they have revealed about themselves. It's glorious.
By "does a Karen" are you referring to the stereotype or the film.
Mainly because of Efap Movies covering the film (and referencing once per Final Destination film so far) I'm just imagining 'Karen 2' where she gets resurrected as Karen-Hulk.
To be fair to the writers, I've met mentally disabled five year old house plants with more self awareness and IQ than the sum total of the She-Hulk writers room, so it can't really be helped.
I think what they were going for, in their own incompetent way, was that Kevin forced a bunch of plotlines on them that they didn't want to do. Mainly the superhero plots that didn't involve dating or groceries. So the writers were actually trying to criticize Kevin, not themselves. So either they failed miserably at making that clear, or else She-Hulk's complaints about her own show make absolutely no sense at all.
@@Jedi_Spartan_38 I'd assume it's the stereotype. She-hulk demands to talk to the manger to avoid all responsibility
This was a ride, and I don't think it's getting any better from here, also love to have Nutsa back
The slumber fairy returns 🧚♀️ ✨️
no joke but she really sounds always like barely awake
@@kinghemirstir9390 she sounds like E;R. I guess it will take time until her ice breaks.
Rest of the people in the panel make speaking in front of a huge online audience look easy because they have been doing this for years. And Nutsa not only is a new youtuber, she is even less exprienced with livestreaming, and she is starting her streaming career right in front of our huge and established community.
You guys remember when people complained about the way Jen talked to Bruce in the first episode and the copehards were like “It’ll be acknowledged! She’ll realize she was wrong later!”
Beautifully aged. Of course, anyone who was thinking critically knew already that if the show was aware Jen was in the wrong, it would’ve been acknowledged at that moment, not at some undefined point later.
The only character arc I've seen Strong Female Leads these days gone through is "I change from thinking I'm perfect to knowing I'm perfect."
Classical heroes may have done things viewed as atrocious through modern sensibilities but man do they undergo serious self-reflection. Strong Female Leads on the other hand commits atrocities and revel in it, thinking it's never their fault. She-Hulk, Captain Marvel, Wanda, Reva...calling them toxic waste with legs would be kind.
When it wasn't, they still defended it. Aren't humans great?
There's literally an issue of Sensational She-Hulk where they think John Byrne has died, so they read scripts for replacement writers where they do vignettes where she's injected into alternate realities where it's written by other famous comic book writers... and it still does less damage to the universe than episode 9.
It was also funnier.
His cameos were also universally self-deprecating while not throwing his co-workers under the bus.
EFAP is like a potato; perfect in every way and brings you joy, but when there isn't enough of it, people die...
I'm offensive and find this comment to be Irish
Samwise Gamgee: PO-TAY-TOE
The longer the fry, the better.
@@Mister-Six Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew...
That's a Bilbo quote if I've ever had the honor to hear one.
You gotta love it. The public knows that Jen is She-Hulk, she gets rewarded with tons of positive attention, sex, and awards, whereas Bruce was hunted by the military for most of his adult life, and the show expects you to believe that Jen just simply has it harder.
It's clear why Jen immediately turns the tap on for Daredevil. He's cool and collected when he talks. He doesn't say grug-level things like the rest of the people around her. He is vastly superior to Jen at the job she devoted her life to. She also has a tendency to be extremely forward with anyone that gives her even the slightest of attention.
What exactly does Daredevil see in Jen?
As far as I'm concerned, mandem had an out of town fling and was confused when he got a call to spend a family dinner with her.
He didn’t see anything. He is blind, remember?
Reverse swimfan? 🤷🏽♀️
Daredevil really took a huge step down from Karen Page and Electra.
Also isn't DD a lower tier lawyer how the FUCK is he a better litigator then Jen is idk if things changed but he helped the poorer disenfranchised for almost no money and hasn't really worked many big cases outside of the Frank Castel one (which they lost btw) so shouldn't this be a Slam dunk for her?
@@phantomgoblin5540 He represented Peter Parker in No Way Home...
@@NicTheGreek1979 I know but i didn't include it because wasn't all that erased/reset at the end? Would DD not remember that he repped Peter since y'know the whole spell thing unless the spell doesn't affect paperwork (which would be hilariously dumb if so)
"Oh, would not mind seeing Daredevil again. A woman has needs."
Said, as she's dictating the rewriting of her life. Daredevil has no agency here. She's decided that he will be her play thing whether he wills it or not. It's essentially yet another female written character/story fantasizing about grape without admitting that that's what it is.
Why... do they... keep... doing this?
I would agree that it's grape since he can't consent, but the thing is he's not even a human being now. The fact that Jen knows none of this is real means she knows he's basically just a romance option in an RPG. Which I can't tell if thats worse or not.
Because its okay when women do it
Literally just rewrite the genders and the same people who defend it would have it
Its double-standards
gotta do somethin'.
A bit late of a reply, but friendly reminder that the 50 Shades series is one of the top selling of the last couple decades.
I hate to be that guy, but if the roles were reversed... Yeah. I absolutely hate the hypocrisy.
Jen could literally turn the universe into that utopia Thanos wanted minus the Snap.
She Hulk: Wins Female Lawyer of the Year
Franczeka von Karma: Pulls out her whip
Camille Vasquez should win that award this year ... but then it was a silly local event and fiction.
Franziska is a 100 times more likeable and competent than she hulk
Based Ace Attorney fan
Kim Wexler must be fuming at Jen now
@@judgefish4044 I hate Franziska and I still like her more than this She-Hulk.
Jen: I can't believe those internet guys called me a wHore!? Why would they say that?
Everyone: You gave it up for some -Five Guys: Burgers and- fries!
LMFAO
Jen is so easy that even the light-skinned disappointment himself, Malik could score with her right after he shows her his mix-tape.
@@RogueFox7050 Haha, so glad I watched JLongbone’s stream yesterday to get that joke. What an insane game that is and an even more insane stream.
@@mrshmuga9 That stream was wild, I mean my expectations for the writing was low but it was even worse than I thought it would be. 🤣
@@RogueFox7050 "So when you gonna let me fuck?" actual line, more or less
Rags: "What's the water bill in California like? Like, fifty dollars a month?"
*Oh Rags, you sweet summer child...*
What would the actual price be?
@@DerichndofCoomland $88, $138, $205, etc. monthly depending on where you live and who your provider is.
Couple of minutes into She-Hulk period convo, hearing Nusta quietly say "...no..." had me dying laughing for some reason.
Lost it on that too lmfao
Rags is making a 2 and half hour video. He's a Long Dog. He's a dachshund
Wiener dog 🐕
He also likes da weiner.
😉
He's a Borzoi
This ending will be legendary though not for being good but for jumping the shark so badly that even MCU normies are face-palming at how bad it was.
Not to mention this is probably the biggest middle finger to fans that liked both the Hulk and the comic version of She-Hulk that I have ever seen, and I thought that Thor and Doctor Strange fans had it rough.
Well they'd say fans are the real villans anyway
George RR Martin: Nothing I could ever write would match this. Real life has transcended my song of Ice and fire
@@TheKpa11 also Martin: "Fans nowadays hate what they've always been a fan of. I can't imagine whyyy"
"The powers aren't the villain. He is."
That awkward moment when the left wing writers accidentally come out as firmly in support of the second amendment.
I still can't believe they spent 225 million dollars, to own some randos on twitter
I still can't believe a show that looks that bad and cheap cost 225 million dollars.
They didn’t even own them, they just paid to embarrass themselves lol
@@eugeniocantu8452 facts. All they did was own themselves showing that some randos on Twitter live rent free in their heads.
they spent HOW MUCH!?
@@theajaxs720 Yep 225 million for a ps1 game
We are currently in the timeline where Always Sunny in Philadelphia is a more accurate portrayal of the legal system than the multi-million dollar legal show titled “Attorney at Law.”
Accurate in what way?
Jack Murdock’s ring robe referencing the original daredevil color scheme was a better homage than just crudely slapping the color yellow on the suit. It comes off as very tacked on.
"I bet if I put a bag of poop on someone's doorstep they'll say something like, 'Ew, that smells! What the hell's wrong with you, are you insane? That smells terrible, you asshole!'
"And... would you look at that, you said exactly that. You have been owned and trolled. It could only have taken someone of masterful wit to predict this."
A real Joseph Joestar moment.
They assassinated Abomination by making him a hippie when he’s meant to be a dark foil to Banner if he allowed Hulk to run rampant. Him being out on parole would never happen because Blonsky shouldn’t be able transform into a human they did it just to save on vfx, give Tim Roth FaceTime, and allow for the plot to happen
There's also the fact that he brutally murdered minimum a dozen people...all of which was filmed while shouting for someone to give him a better challenge.
Dude would never have a chance at parole
@@yagamifire7861 oh yeah the two guys he flattened by car, and the people being flung by a Blonsky who at this point is stronger then Hulk(physically trade off being he can’t get stronger with rage)
So the writers got one note from Kevin about the quality of their drama and their response was to write an ending where Jen karens out into the real world to condescend at a Kevin robot.
Actually pathetic.
Always nice to hear from Jlongbone and Nutsa. Both are very entertaining people, hope to have em back soon
Is Nutsa entertaining? She seems nice and all, but can anyone actually point to an entertaining thing she said in this?
@@bigwinz this deck?
When Fringy starts talking _quickly,_ you know you fucked up.
She hulk feels like a season long of the Futurama episode where Lela gets into Blernsball thinking she's the best female players but is seen as a joke
Bro, why is this so accurate
You know, it's funny. If we had a comparable situation about some guy moping about the fact that no women want to date him, he'd be told in no uncertain terms that he needs to devote his life towards introspection and self-improvement. But with Jen it's presented as if the men are at fault for not being interested in her.
Not sure if they mentioned it, but not only did Jen put Emil into prison for "breaking parole," but she also broke HER OWN PAROLE BY TURNING INTO SHE HULK.
She wants people held accountable for their actions, but God forbid she be held accountable for her own actions.
That's how hypocrites work, and somehow that's empowering to Twitter.
5:32:09
"You don't get to choose"
"Why not? It's my show."
Loki and Hawkeye: Welcome to the club!
The no-budget Japanese cartoon _Eagle Talon_ did the 4th-Wall ending way better in one of their movies. Whole cartoon has intentionally ass png "animation" "quality", but for the movie they bring on end-of-the-world stakes and mecha fights that drive up the budget meter on the top of the screen (deadass, the whole movie had a BUDGET meter on screen) and every time the meter filled up the characters would have to pause the action and appear in a cheesy advertisement for some local business or tourist spot to help pay for the movie to continue.
And this actually becomes plot relevant when in the end the villain is about to win and the antiheroes don't know what to do, but then they remember how cheap their studio is and start launching graphics-heavy super-attacks and summons that the budget can't afford, and the animation quality plummets so hard into potato realm that the villain is paralyzed.
Eagle Talon is fantastic haha. Thanks for the recommendation
I am so fucking sick to death of writers going "look, we know our writing is shit, and we're pointing it out, so therefore you can't criticize us".
With that said, this did make me realize I would love to see more Marvel characters give the writers a piece of their minds over what has been done with them recently (most notably my best girl Wanda, but a lot of characters deserve vengeance over their assassinations).
It actually has a darker and insidious fact behind it, especially when it’s about sexual assault on male characters. Because many of these shows like 30 rock, Mindy project, It’s always sunny etc. will “pretend” to acknowledge the actions but will later treat it as a joke and give the abuser no consequences in doing it. That’s why in real life, people still have misconception that “Men cannot be raped”.
@@nont18411 "Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?"
@@nont18411 I mean, you're right, but what the hell does this have to do with Marvel?
It's not even Lampshading, it's spiteful to the point of hatred towards your own audience.
I'm imagining T'Challa and Namor teaming up to complain about how the writers misrepresented their respective nations in Wakanda Forever. An unlikely alliance, but desperate times and all that.
It's like the parody show "Single Female Lawyer" from Futurama. Except she's big, green, and doesn't know what lawyers do.
The MCU has reached the point where a character literally has plot armor as a superpower.
It's utterly insane that the showrunners thought that, making it so that She Hulk's 4th wall breaking is a literal ability that she has which has a tangible effect on reality, was a good idea. Fucking unbelievable.
I love how they make fun of the idea that Australia is a tiny place and they all know each other. But I literally only watched two Australian youtubers. One was Shad... the other was Jazza. I only found out like a year later they're brothers.
If it were a movie Rags and Mauler would call that contrived.
Wait the drawing guy? You're shitting me
Yup
Bro, same lol
Sometimes reality isn't very well written. Another example of this is that Tom Fischbach, writer and artist of the quite popluar furry comic TwoKinds, is Markiplier's brother (iirc)
Kang, the TVA, and MoM were things that K.E.V.I.N. approved on, so by abstraction She-Hulk is worse.
I really enjoyed this EFAP.
Nutsa doesn't say a lot but I always enjoy hearing her talk. I also liked that she was the only one to chuckle at Rags' gack joke and yes, I remember gack.
Rekieta on EFAP has been a pleasure.
I haven't watched any of She Hulk. Did Jen ever come to terms with being She Hulk? Because if she still didn't want to be She Hulk why couldn't she have written her new show to where she never turned into She Hulk in the first place?
Also, I love how the writers say that they could predict the reactions of the trolls. So they wrote a bad show so that the trolls would call it bad. Yep, they wrote a bad show so the trolls would call it bad and thus be correct. That's way better than writing a good show that the trolls call bad and are thus wrong.
The knew what the troll reactions would be because they looked on twitter for what people predicted would happen in to the show and how they would destroy She-Hulk's character, and then did it. I'm starting to think we could actually use reverse psychology to get writers to accidentally make a decent show if we just tweet out how awful it would be to have characters go through an actual hero's journey, that would be super duper woke and totally awful and we'd all definitely hate it.
@@FablesTold You know I can't decide if they'd be dumb enough to fal for it or too dumb to actually write that kind of show.
"...and he turns into the cringiest Hulk you've ever seen in your life."
Not even close Mauler, I've seen Amadeus Cho.
4:28:00 The thing about the "woman written by man vs woman written by woman" thing Nutsa is pointing out here is that these memes are a retaliation against the assertion that men can't write women properly or that femlae characters written by men are worse than those written by women, by pointing out what kind of female character we get if you give shows to the kind of female "writer" who would say these things.
We don't witness a gender reverse "bro look how awful men write male characters" memes because there is no assertion that women can't write men to have a backlash to. The only thing anybody would ever claim is that male characters are badly written caricatures when written by feminists women, not women in general, but the feminist assertion is that female characters suck when written by men.
Receptionist: How do you write women so well?
Melvin Udall: I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.
It never ceases to amaze me how much more accurate this description has become in modern storytelling.
"She's killing Disney Employees!"
To be fair, that is like a Red Shirt
It's a mercy killing.
That's irrelevant, she's still killing random civilians for doing their job and getting in their way.
@@grandarkfang_1482 she just beat them up
So when SH tells Marvel that her story is shit and the writers are shit, then does that mean that the "villains" that these shit writers were parodying were right? It's such a mess. It's some bipolar shit like "I hate you for what you're saying but I agree".
“You’re right, I wasn’t pretending to be retarded… I _am_ retarded, but stop pointing it out.”
So you're telling me that the Sokovia Accords were better handled in "Slingshot", which is a web series that was put together in between filming of two separate parts of AOS season 4, than they were on "She Hulk", a show that is supposed to combine superheroes and law? Ok.
AOS became such a cool little universe unto itself.
@@DUKEzors Agreed...I now wish for potential leaks for "Secret invasion" not to be true, because if they are - Quake as a character will be ruined, without a doubt.
VLC asking Is this necessary is just...perfection. it just encapsulates the rancid experience that is She Hulk in this beautifully meta way.
I had ONE big fear in the MCU and always KNEW *THIS* was going to happen one day! And OF COURSE it would come to pass in She-Hulk! And even though I’m confident the Writers have NEVER read ANY of the Fantastic 4 Comics (Otherwise it DEFINITELY would’ve been done on PURPOSE), I’m still MAD that they were SO INCOMPETENT, they ACCIDENTALLY Stumbled & Tripped into replacing “The-One-Above-All” (Jack Kirby) & “The Collaborator” (Stan Lee) with “K.E.V.I.N.”! *KEVIN!!!* They DON’T EVEN KNOW what they’ve DONE! 🤬
I love how the resolution to this entire plot line and season of TV is the strong, empowered woman protagonist... going and complaining to the manager.
As far as being blindsided in court, we did actually see that in the Rittenhouse trial. You can bet that the prosecutors in the case were not expecting the 1 and 1/2 armed man to testify the way he did on cross.
The important part is that they were blindsided by the idiocy of a witness, not basic facts about the case.
This series literally ended with “I want to speak to the manager!!!”
You know...I think women, after an entire generation and a half of being lied to about where self esteem comes from (hint: it's absolutely NOT emotional validation and positive self-talk), they actually think narcissistic personality disorder is just...confidence. And they think if a man is confident, he must have gotten it through that same kind of narcissism. These women aren't necessarily evil, they are just totally gaslit.
this actually does seem like it's the case. It feels like a lot of women conflate being "strong and independent" with being an abusive tyrant who brutalizes anybody who gives them any lip or disrespect of any kind. When I found out how this show ended it was fucking hilarious but also really fucking sad, the writers are entirely fixated on the criticism but not in any meaningful or productive way but in this entirely fight or flight type of way where they think they need to "get us" before we get them(IE just saying their shitty writing is shitty) It's like they think this is some sort of really dumb game that you win by demeaning the other person when everybody is really just telling them that their writing philosophy is unproductive and consistently produces garbage so they should probably take a different approach. All attempts to help these people understand the errors in their perception just look like kicking dirt in their eyes from their perspective and so we remain at a cultural impasse where writing boards are filled with nepotism hires who are ideologically posessed and too deeply insecure to make good media and consistently fail to understand why nobody likes it and this feeds the insecurity further and now the writers focus more on shitting on the fanbase that they're supposed to be selling entertainment too, the fanbase is leery and demoralized and the corporate heads are probably desperately trying to untie the numerous connections that prevent them from just firing these people who are burning their companies in a petty ego trip. It's an amazing mess it's a fucking christmas miracle all year long.
@@sdfabctr And to add to that.. "any lip or disrespect"... often means minor slights that might be completely unintentional and something no one BUT the recipient even saw as a slight at all. People like that just... don't deal with their own failings. They see it as a personal attack any time anyone tries to tell them they have a failing. that's not strength... that's blindness. Sure you can call it "independent"... but.. who really benefits from being "independent" like that?
@@marhawkman303 it's actually the antithesis of independence they're so dependent on external validation that any perceived slight of any kind is an existential threat... That's really fucking socially dependent behavior right there
Confidence, a byproduct of strength, is downstream from discipline which is needed because of responsibility. Responsibility to uphold what has been inherited, love to keep what we have earned and sacrifice to ensure that the future can continue without us.
@@johnwiks2597 Ironically, it used to take some kind of bravery to fight the status quo. Now it takes bravery to refuse to join the mob that burns it all down.
The line about "the powers going to the one most suited" is like they saw comicsgate comments about how these other characters *deserve* their powers because of their strength of character and their arcs of being responsible... but then just distilled it to "only people who deserved it from the outset." Which is ironic because... Daredevil is one of the only heroes who deserved powers from early on, for being good and virtuous. And he *still* had many sacrifices immediately during and after gaining the powers.
But all the writers see is what you get on the screen. None of the nuance of Spider-Man, Luke Skywalker, Batman, etc. We believe tests of character determine if a person is called a hero or a villain. But they just say "only the worthy deserve powers" like all powers are Mjolnir or something. And COMPLETELY FORGETTING that Thor was stripped of his powers until he realized what made him worthy of them. He had the power before. But he was an asshole. And so he was weighed and measured, and ultimately earned the right to be a *hero*, instead of just a powerful warrior.
If you tested She-Hulk/Jennifer Walter's character, it is readily apparent to anyone that she would be found wanting. Powers do not make heroes. Character does. And the writers have missed that ENTIRELY.
1:46:13 YES, paperwork is involved in everything. I’m a Civil Engineer, and I was listening to this while going through all the paperwork for one of my projects
You guys basically are intelligencia in disneys eyes 🤣👍
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They need to charge their misogyny cells, or Incells for short
The best part is they're proud of it
I can believe that. Disney might've already forgotten they've written intelligencia as a group that won't allow women in their ranks. That's exactly how incosistent their storytelling has been.
@@Kernwadi stop recycling the same joke over and over. It's not funny
I think it's literally a joke in either Robot Chicken or Family Guy where the Kool-aid Man kills someone by crashing through a wall.
Oh, noooo!!!
42:22 Rags, everyone knows that the reticulated python is the tastiest (and most common) snake you can eat in MGS 3: Snake Eater!
You know the most insulting part of the whole Intelligencia shit is that in the comics, the team was composed of some of the smartest villains in the universe, which included MODOK, the Leader, and fucking Doctor Doom.
Now it's Doctor Doomcock and the Toxic Brood.
@@dragonknightleader1 Don't forget the Hatemongers
To all the She-Hulk comic fans out there: Don't be sad. You can live smiling with the knowledge that Marvel will come to all the other characters with the same malicious will to destroy. You're not alone.
The deprecation of other characters shouldn't be what lifts She-Hulk fans' spirits.
I’m happy that MCU will never touch Punisher
@@nont18411 Not to scare you, but they're MCU is getting their claws into and will undoubtedly neuter Deadpool- I don't think Punisher is totally off the table.
J Longbone just bringing up She Hulk's smell from time to time is so friggen hilarious to me.
There's a concept in the Elder Scrolls called CHIM. Where a character in the story gains a level of awareness that they are within a dream world, not specifically that they're in a game or even necessarily a work of fiction, but simply a dream. The idea is that the "dreamer" is in fact the player, and the dream ceases to be when you shut the game off.
Few characters have reached this level of awareness, and doing so typically results in divine ascension (or, total annihilation from the lore, but that's another topic) The concept is still highly debated in the TES community to this day, and I'm very much oversimplifying it.
Point is, when you introduce a concept as meta as knowing you're in a made-up world when everything is meant to be taken seriously, you have to be very careful in the execution. Deadpool handles this fairly well, he doesn't meet his literal god and break his own universe. (That I know of). Deadpool 2 tears down the 4th wall, but it doesn't sacrifice it's story to do it.
Meta commentary is fine, when done right. Another TES example is M'aiq the Liar. He's a character that appears across most games, and has commentary that heavily presses on the 4th wall, but never breaks it. His presence doesn't fundamentally break the universe. She-Hulk... I can't even begin to describe how this works or what it means for future entries in the MCU. There's no reason she can't now will Kang out of existence.
M’aiq is a legend.
"no reason she can't …"
You forget that she's stupid and narcissistic.
How did She-Hulk not realize that the writers and Kevin were the ones who ruined her life by releasing her bills and sex tape? I would imagine that would of been the first thing that came out of her mouth because 1. It directly affects her so her ego and narcissism would not let it just slide. and 2. These are the people who have had total control over her life crumbling. If it were really that traumatizing to make her "she-hulk out" and get arrested she should of at least had one line, but the writers as we've all seen are clearly incapable of having even two episodes exist in the same universe
What's funny is the Bill Bixby Hulk TV show... is the only reason She-Hulk exists. Stan Lee heard a rumor that the TV show was going to introduce a female Hulk character so he had the She-Hulk comic made to preempt the IP.
Nutsa for EFAP Slumber Fairy! 🧚♀️ ✨️
I know she has competition from Aydin 😀, but I vote Nutsa
Theirs her, Adyin, Anna, and E;R
@@HectorLopez0217 E;R all the way.
Jay too
What's that mean
Did I miss a line where it stated Daredevil took the California bar? Cause he should only be certified in NY
Shhhh
Continuity is for fans who use their brains.
@@kylekatarn5964 oh shit, my bad. I’ll go back to watching product, to get excited for next product
@@marsdeath12396
*Processing*
This is an acceptable NPC response.
In all seriousness though, you're correct. There's major problems with continuity throughout this show and most Disney+ products.
@@kylekatarn5964 Shit there’s a lack of continuity with everything phase 4 at this point
@@marsdeath12396 Yes. Multiverse of Madness was a huge mess lol
5:08:05
6'0 Abomination vs 5'11 Hulk
#ManletPower
I'm coming up on it and I'm excited
I do want to point out that it is only Hulk that has the split personalities. It could be explained by his abuse creating an alternate persona for him to feel in control. Abomination, Leader (a hulk with a giant head and super smart), She-Hulk, etc all seem to be conscious.
Lawyer she-hulk causing more property damage than anyone else, to fight a good person cause she can't be bothered to ask any questions.
Thx story writers, for letting us know she is not a good person :3
Deadpool breaks the fourth wall, She-hulk nukes the whole neighborhood. I have no more reason to have any investment in the MCU because the material has just confirmed that it is fake, the cardinal sin of writing. I can't fathom the insane hubris of the person whole approved this catastrophe.
I interpret my beginning as my ending. I'm happy with the pain now and I find it interesting.
@@BilboBagginsTheHomosexual *_BILBO BAGGINS!?_*
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@@BilboBagginsTheHomosexual GRAAAH!!!
Legendary words from Me High Cheek Sent Me High, First of His Name 👏
@@SaiDeLaRai The Spiders know that I deserve this praise.
I think, subconsciously, everyone wants another Blackadder series.
The problem with trying to make another Blackadder is "How do you continue on from season 4 and 'Goodbyee'?" That finale set the bar so high that it would be very difficult for a fifth series to live up to that plus the multiple-decade gap.
@@matthewmuir8884 that may be true, the only thing they did after season 4 was the New Year's special where Baldrick accidentally invents a TARDIS and Blackadder becomes King of England.
@@ggrarl The Napoleon scene in that still makes me laugh.
SUBconsciously?
Hey, nick, glad your channel was allowed to exist again.
I feel like the Kevin sequence could have worked if it had been an acknowledgement that Phase 4 had become a case of quantity over quality and how all the shows ended in the same way, ending with the K.E.V.I.N bot shutting down and (either before or after the airing of She Hulk) the announcement that the MCU would be taking a break after the end of Phase 4... the issue is that I doubt Disney or Marvel are currently - or ever will be - self aware enough for that.
The fact that they went to the trouble of pointing out that the VFX team was being worked to the bone and totally ignored the controversy around it was unironically the funniest thing to come out of this show.
Welcome to EFAP newcomers
I love it.
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The bad guy's plan was to release a sex tape? That shit couldn't even defeat Hulk HOGAN, much less She-Hulk.
Suck it Gawker!
I remember seeing people say that because the Accords got repelled that Cap was right.
I’m still struggling to understand why they chose to use the yellow and red suit. That thing got ditched after the first six issues of daredevil cause even back then the readers thought it was ugly. It would be like giving Batman purple globes in, “The Batman” because he had them in his first issue way back in 1939. If marketing was the reason then why not do what “The Batman” did and make a new suit and make it look cool. It works every time. It gets worse for daredevil. Apparently they are going to use the shadow land suit the new daredevil show (it’s a black suit with red gloves, red boots, and a red double D). I don’t know how they plan on doing that now that this show has already given him a new suit that is perfectly functional.
So we can sell more action figures, we can't sell action figures for Born Again if it looks exactly the same as She-Hulk.
She-Hulk was the gayest thing to ever disgrace my eyes...
Hate how she says "my story" about a show that relied on Bruce and Daredevil for any relevance
When they start talking about the goo merchants; I just picture the merchant from RE4 sellin' vials of goo of all colors. "Wha'cha buyin'?"
The Jack Nicholson movie with the woman quote is As Good As It Gets.
_"How do you write women so well?"_
"I think of a man, and then I remove all reason and accountability."
(Door closes)
@@samwallaceart288 that line should be added in the holy Bible
Rags, you really should watch both Venture Bros, and Psych
the latter is literally an eidetic memory being used to fake being a psychic, to solve crime
I love Psych. Good show
@@thehoneybunempress1664 That show had no business being as good as it was, even the little swat team they use to go survey the hostage scene in what, episode 1? 2? Is so much more accurate than alot of what we get now, even down to their armaments
what happened? lol
The funniest thing, is that this show actually had fans before the final episode. How do you think THEY felt when they heard the show admit that the writing was garbage from the start?
Honestly, if the show was bad, I wouldn't even care. But the sheer smugness, lack of modey, and pretentiousness of it all is just... sickening.
Florian Himsl on "Is It Kino" on the Simian Jimmy channel. It's hilarious
Here's a horrifying thought. Smart Hulk seems to be just Bruce. Meaning there was a period where Scar was raised just by regular Hulk. Imagine if you had a relationship with your dad, had values instilled and experiences shared, only for him to come back, look nothing like you remember him, act nothing like he did before, and (presumably) look at your shared history entirely differently.
Bruce seems to have either just killed or absorbed the Hulk personality. Scar's father is dead. Someone else is just in control of his body.
Jup, as confirmed in endgame with the ancient one knocking bruce out of bannerhulk hulk is dead
When they destroy her car, can’t she just Hulk-jump a few times to get home?🤔
it's just too perfect that the big character reveal at the end of she hulk is a new hulk with a shitty glitched out hairstyle... I think i've seen that type of hair before when I installed like 50 mods on fallout new vegas, it was on a weird gecko dressed like a wrestler with a cyborg arm, pretty sure that's where i've seen it, I can't wait for the next marvel show where half the CGI assets are just broken gmod textures, "THE NEW VILLAIN! PURPLE AND BLACK SQUARE!!!"