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Hey folks! The original plan was to release EFAP Movies: Home Alone 2 today but its not QUITE finished cooking. For now, you can enjoy a big ol Christmas discussion about Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon! a cinematic classic!
More importantly though, MERRY CHRISTMAS FOLKS, HOPE YOU'VE HAD A WONDERFUL DAY!
If it's anything close to the first Home Alone EFAP then I'll be elated!
Keep cookin'. Peak fire, and Don bless.
Merry Christmas!
Thanks mate
Cheers to you!)
My day was unfortunately pretty bad, but thank you so much for being here for us and cheering us up
Merry Chrumblo
Rebel Moon is the movie Zak Snyder fans deserve.
It’s the film that they wanted!
oh hi rags :D
It's a real Starfield situation
Sounds like a sentiment you must've gotten from a real Patrician type.
"... to me." - Tricycle Puppet
"Where did you learn to rebel? ON A MOON?!"
"Tell that to Moon's snapped neck!"
"Is this the moon? Then I rebel." -- Kora Mudfondler
“The moon had its chance!”
Rebelling on the Moon is the only thing that brings me joy in life.
“Re-Bel, NO.”
I owe Michael Bay an apology. At least Michael Bay had the decency to say "I make movies for teenage boys" and I legitimately liked Bad Boys 2, The Rock, The first Transformers, and Pain and Gain. Snyder is a friggin hack and hasn't made a good movie since Watchmen.
I wonder what the perspective of the EFAP hosts and community are on that movie, I really like it and think the bomb is better than giant squid, but maybe people disagree, it is the only good movie he has made( maybe the dawn of the dead, haven't seen it, but hate 300)
I've always liked Michael Bay's movies. I'd never say they're masterpieces of cinema, but I always loved them for dumb fun, especially with friends.
And Watchmen is iffy because of the ending.
@@hariman7727 I am curious about it, if you could tell me more, I really enjoyed the ending, nut my gf hated it, she said something to the affect of: way too crazy way too fast, but nothing specific
@@vitorschein8073I think Mauler said it's his favorite of Snyder. But he hasn't seen it in a while. I really like it, there are some Snyder tisms that kind of bring the movie down(the long and unnecessary sex scene, the nipples in Ozymandias's suit and Manhattan's schlong bouncing all the time) but there are some things really good that came from the movie. The relationship between Rorschach and Nite Owl is really cool. Nite Owl has more chemistry with Rorschach than with Silk Spectre lmao. His reaction to Rorschach dying is phenomenal and way better than him just banging Laurie because of the grief over Ozymandias's plan IMO.
"Zack is the embodiment of 'I'm 14 and this is deep!', yet he's nearly 60."
- Me
"Zack is like if Michael Bay thought he was Christopher Nolan."
- A friend of mine
Holy shit your friend is brilliant. I'm taking notes
I actually like Michael Bay. He knows what he's making, and he doesn't pretentiously pretend it's anything other than dumb fun. When I go to see his movies I don't expect The Godfather, I expect Transformers. So I go to his movies to watch Transformers, not The Godfather.
@@Deadsnake989 I like Michael as well. He’s a frat boy with a camera, and he owns it, no bullshit.
He does pick up the slack when he’s expressing his reverence for the military (see _13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi_ (2016)).
Never really like any of Michael Bay's movies(closest was 13 Hours, but that one always makes me think, I'd rather watch 'Black Hawk Down', 'Tears of the Sun', or 'The Kingdom'). But I respect the guy for being unpretentious about his work.
@@CatsOverdrive That's fair, his movies ARE dumb, which isn't for everyone. I enjoy the occasional "turn your brain off and have fun" movie. I just dislike when people make those movies, and then pretend they're the next Citizen Kane.
My dad tried to watch Rebel Moon twice.
He fell asleep in the first 20 twenty minutes the first time, the next day he tried again and finally gave up after saying "What the hell is this? Who are these people? Why are they doing this?" and he started watching football instead.
Lol do we have the same dad
@@sugarplumvodka8408there’s a dad hive mind
😆
Based dad.
@@mrdropkicker1
Is this why "dad jokes" exist? :thinking:
This is Nemesis she's gonna watch my back I recommend not being killed by her her plasma swords trap the souls of its victims
"What are we, some kind of Rebel Moon squad?"
“Scargiver” is such a non intimidating title. It just means you’re so shit at killing people they just end up with a scar at the end of the fight lol
It's not his fault guys, there was studio interference! He was only the writer, director, cinematographer & producer. Just you wait til the director's cut, it's gonna be epic! 😂😂😂
No, it will really get good when you can see the deleted scenes on the 8 hour cut bluray!
He needs more creative control, he should be the only person involved. He'll hold the lights, the boom mic, do all the foley, and he'll be all the actors for all the characters.
This is true creative freedom.
THIS IS SNYDER'S VISION.
Sounds about right 🤣
How can people remain so blind to the fact that the dude is a hack? He also had total control for Army of the Dead and everyone with a functioning brain will tell you how godawful that endeavor was. Did anyone seriously expect this to turn out good?
@@cyrus2395 That actually sounds like it would be really fun to watch...
RELEASE THE OMNI-SNYDER CUT!
The first twelve minutes of this EFAP is an absolute masterpiece of borderline nonsensical sarcasm. Snyder missed a chance to make Nemesis’s lightsabers take the souls of the people she kills
That was my first thought at that character’s appearance slash only contribution to the movie. The whole thing really reminded me of suicide squad. Just a series of introductions to b characters.
You pretty much said exactly what I was going to say. Awesome. You saved me 3 minutes. Yup, I want more pure sarcasm EFAP.
The Blood Axes is literally the name of one of the main ork klans in 40k.
There isn't an original bone in this movie's body.
after Imperium (of Man) that seems like a small case of plagiarism.
Well Snyder couldn't figure out how to make Orks absolutely dour, joyless and miserable, thus he replaced our loveable, yet extremely dangerous, murder machines who absolutely enjoy and thrive on war, who don't give a squigs droppings about pretentious 'deeper thinking', with bland charisma voids.
He couldn't even be bothered to at least change one of those words. At least go with "The Crimson Axes" or "The Blood Blades"
Nah, quite literally just copy pasted the name, good lord. I swear the only reason this director gets so many passes is likely because he's just got friends in high places.
This movie also has a faction leader named Belisarius. Just like 40k.
I love how at the beginning of the movie, Kora says she was told love was weakness, and had it beaten out of her. Then the flashbacks tell us that she was encouraged to have a lover, to give her something to fight for. I come to Snyder movies for the consistency.
Slow motion is Zach Snyder's only joy in life.
This one may actually be true.
This movie is basically what happens of you skip all the gameplay and only watch the cutscenes.
Except the gameplay sucks too
in Alan Woke 2 game
And the cutscenes are directed by David Cage! XD
Newest difficulty- jurno mode , opposite of mash x to get to game
@@The90sDoggonot enough women in peril.
Ambiguous hero lady Kora: all love was beaten out of me and they taught me love is weakness
Same ambiguous hero lady Kora 15 minutes later: they told us to fall in love because it will help us keep grounded and remind us why we fight
Exactly what I was thinking
While weird contradictory ideas can show up in society, and that can be interesting to explore... it needs to be not that obvious and stupid, and not an unintended writing mistake...
Tbf, CCP kinda do this IRL. Just look at their social rules
This if you don't have your own octopus 🐙👀 thank you Zack..🙄
Pro Tip: Do not pick up and smell the soil directly behind the draft animal you're using to work a field.
She loves the smell of shit it reminds her of herself
Na.
To really know if you have good soil, you need to taste it.
@@Kyle-sr6jm eww.. 😷
Little soil with a side of tetanus.
"Story is what lead us to action." Michael Bay
"Story is when happen." Zack Snyder
"My jam is my fortune" Boogie Scorsese
@@j-starchaser”and jay must seek my fortune” Bilbarian bongodumble
Modok: We have barely enough to feed ourselves here.
All the while you can plainly see everyone in the village is a swoll cross-fit bodybuilder type. But sure, maintain the illusion.
Could have at least brought out all the skinny people, if they have any.
Just like “Hunger Games” movies that all the characters look well-fed.
They need the surplus to maintain their gains. Why you think they have high productivity
Rebel Moon is the end result of a 12 year olds fanfic of both Star Wars and Warhammer 40k.
It literally is copy and paste of the premise/aesthetic of both universes - it even went as lazy as to have the tech guys of the evil empire be red robed priests that are literally called the Mechanicus
Oh god seriously?
So you mean Zack don't understand wh40k either
Damn
@@k92ful Zach doesnt understand basic anything.
When the bad guys landed on our heroes village stating that nearby an military base is going to be established they came asking the village leader for food in exchange for 3x the market price of the food.
The leader argued that they had no food and where on tbe brink of starvation basically - in a village full of well fed to outright obese people and enough abundance to make lots of ale out of the produce.
Also nevermind the little inconvinent fact that the "bad guys" flew over fields as far as they eye can see full of crops
Zack had our good guys lie in the most incompetent fashion to in the bad guys face who gave him like a dozen chances to change his mind.
Also of course random soldiers trying to gang grape a girl that our 50kg heroine of heroic heroism intervenes in and defeats a full squad of soldiers who are like 2 or 3 times her size.
@@k92fulSnyder is basically a man child with delusion of grandeur but he's really lucky because for some reason Netflix gave him a mountain of money to create this garbage
If GW didn't rip everyone off (I love 40K and own 7 armies, but I also have eyes) I'd say they should sue. Unfortunately, not calling them "Adeptus" is enough to get around the copyright.
@@powerflumi This movie is basically what a woke version of 40K would look like IMHO. Hopefully it'll inspire Amazon to stay the hell out of Henry's way when he's making actual 40K TV.
It kills me that with the "General join us for revenge" part happened right after they did a Vengeance is bad scene.
You know the Rick and Morty "Heist" episode? That's what the gladiator scene reminds me of.
They show up, say a thing and he goes "you son of a bitch, I'm in"
classic.
The reason Zack Snyder gets work is because while he gets older, teenage boys stay the same age.
HISTORY LESSON
Back in 2013, while the Hunger Games hype was in full swing, Hasbro tried to cash in on Katniss' popularity by releasing a new line on NERF blasters aimed towards girls. This blaster line, named "Rebelle", featured more feminine designs and a white, pink, and purple color palette. The line was discontinued in 2018, I don't need to tell you why.
I had almost forgotten about this golden moment in human history until the cast of EFAP decided to remind me of it with their incredibly appropriate pronunciation of this film.
Thank you, EFAP. Thank you for reminding me of that dumpster fire.
Honestly given katniss and thr male demographic making it pink was probably it's biggest weakness.
A neutral one probably would have had it be bought
I WOULD like to know how that line survived for 5 years.
The robot said Mechanicus Militarum and I pulled a Will Smith.
Belisarius Cawl is going to replace Snyder's kidneys with toasters.
@@CharlesUrban
Snyder is about as intelligent as a servo skull, or Ogryn, so nothing of value will be lost.
And rhen he is going to fuck them
Finally, a mature film for grown up adults who aren't several children in a trench coat. Who do adult things. Like go to work and do business. And Groceries. That's why I love Rebel Moon and can't wait for the follow up 'Revolt Planet'. 11/10. Zack Snyder has done it again. A brilliant mind to rival Neil Druckmann.
Watch on 0.25 speed for authentic Snyder experience
Vaseline smeared on your eyeballs, optional.
😂
Extra points, add the Wonder Woman yodeling from the Snyder Cut every time Girl Boss is on screen.
The scale of the Imperium was such a problem for this, thank you for pointing it out.
In Seven Samurai, the Samurai are against 30 Bandits - they're outnumbered, but they reckon there's a fair chance of defeating them if they play it right. But when the Imperium is so huge, Kora easily recruiting so many people willing to do this is just kinda unbelievable. Just another example of Zack wanting to ape off Seven Samurai without understanding how the characters even work.
Stole from several movie references and mashed them all together for this film.
They also train the villagers how to fight and arm them with bamboo spears to even the odds against the bandits.
The pronunciation of Reb-el Moon makes this episode better every time it’s said 😂😂
This movie is like someone who adores Star Wars and wanted to make a homage to it, but used only Disney Star Wars as a template. An absolute triumph, my guys.
Even Disney Star Wars is better than Rebel Moon.
@@fulcrum6760 Well, at least Disney Star Wars is nice to look at, and has sometimes good music, I'll give you that. There is not one thing I like about Rebel Moon. It's gross visually and audibly.
I made a post on social media on Rebel Moon asking about the harvest god worldbuilding and I came across my first Snyder fanboy. I quoted the worldbuilding that Sindri gives, “We all know that it’s the thrusting of hips and the loud sounds of pleasure that summon the seedlings to sprout.” Which screamed to me that Zack is a 12-year-old but also it’s weird that this community of farmers is so small because wouldn’t they be having sex all the time to make sure the seedlings sprout? Also why is there no children in this community?
And the fanboy responds, “I don’t know maybe read a book? The most common activity during old pagan fertility festival like bealtaine is precisely the encouragement of sex. Maybe because zack Snyder has read joseph cambell and james frazer and you have not.” Which still doesn’t answer my question of why is the community so small if part of the cultural beliefs is that is that sex encourages growth. Also why does referencing a book make it good?
May Day in Ireland (Beltane) was not a sex ritual. It did not encourage sex specifically. It was intended to protect herds, involving animal sacrifice, probably. As I recall the Golden Bough, fertility rites in ancient cults usually involved animal or human sacrifice. Not sex. Though maybe I’m wrong.
References to books don’t make movies good. In this case, I assume the Snyder fan is trying to provide intellectual pedigree to ideas found in the movie. As if to say, “Look, adults take this stuff seriously. It’s not just for 12 year-olds.”
Wait they were talking about reading old mythology and cited Joseph Campbell as a source?
That's like saying you understand Mesopotamian culture because you heard Jordan Peterson reference it one time.
@MistbornTaylor Because these Snyder bros aren’t really that bright. They proselytize about how great Zack’s work is, saying we don’t “get it” when in truth we probably understand it better than they do. Because if I maybe bold, a lot of us here actually pay attention to what a movie is telling us because at the end of the day we value consistency for the sake of verisimilitude. When you miss key details like you’ve mentioned; what it tells me is the writer didn’t work hard enough to justify a lot of their choices. Now if these folks want to like this stuff, regardless of the problems, go right ahead. I’m not one to rain on their parades.
BUT the moment anyone tries to designate something like this as “good” as in quality I’m going to not stay silent. Not when we have pieces of fantasy and sci-fi media, Lord of the Rings, Arcane and Last Airbender who actually did a lot of legwork to justify their choices and in turn can be appreciated by those individuals who want to evaluate the nuts and bolts of a work; the “craft” as opposed to superficial stuff.
@@Avarn388Exactly. Even if this idea was referenced from something (and judging by the other responses I got, it's not) it doesn't make sense in THIS context. I don't need to go "oh didn't you know this element of worldbuilding in Arcane is actually a reference to Bilbious Bagginaeous?" It just has amazing worldbuilding.
If I have to read a Joseph Campbell book to understand a movie that has nothing to do with Joseph Campbell, then it’s not a good movie.
"While you were still learning how to SPELL YOUR NAME!!.. I was being trained to conquer galaxies!"
I swear, Battlefield Earth is this movie, but entertaining and funny.
You know its sad when you can look at Battlefield Earth and genially say its a better movie than Rebel Moon. Even though it had all those odd angled shots, you were at least able to see whats going on. That and TURALL, he makes the movie.
Battlefield Earth is genuinely more entertaining than this. Barry Pepper was a more believable protagonist than Kora too.
I knew as soon as I saw Zack's name attached this would be terrible. I doubt he can write his name without creating plot holes.
Plot holes? I think you mean “Zack Snyder’s vision”.
Hack Snyder couldn't write a grocery list without more contradictions than items.
Zack Snyder is Sid from Toy Story. He doesn’t wanna play with the toys, he wants to torture and destroy them.
Quite possibly the single most bloated feeling and aesthetically embarrassing movie I have ever had the displeasure of witnessing. This is therapy for me.
I'm not one to complain about gratuitous violence and sex. But there comes a point where I just don't care. Because its buried under bloat and is clearly there to trick you into watching the movie again.
At least the previous Snyder movies had an appreciation for the physical form. Batman and Superman are beefcakes. Wonder Woman is shot like a model in an advertisement. The Snyder Cut is full of Amazon babes flexing their arms and midriffs and every single superhero except Flash is either breaking through or throwing other people through walls. In 300, Eva Greene and Gerard Butler are shot like ideals of feminine and masculine.
In this movie, every single character is dull. The shirtless men are weak cowards despite their muscles. The women look fuck ugly with garbage "edge-lord" make up and hair.
There's a magical gryphon. And even that is painted matte black in colour. So it looks like a crow.
Fuck this movie.
It's the TENET of Zack Snyder films
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09That is painfully accurate.
Did you guys even make it through the movie? I checked out after the Griffin/ Eagle flying scene, since it was boring and stupid from the get go
@@TrigonAZR I made it though although it took me multiple separate watches because I was taking a shot of tequila every time there was a pointless slow motion shot and I blacked out multiple times.
The reason everything is blurry like that is that he used a bad lens he tracked down specifically on ebay just because it gives this effect, Zack LIKES this, he thinks it's GOOD.
I think that was only in Army of the Dead. I think this one he tried a different lense that has a more narrow focal but produces a similar effect. Unless he used it in both films, which was a terrible idea. Much like many of the plot points.
I love how paying with the next harvest makes perfect sense as a bargain in Seven Samurai because it's set in Edo Period Japan but it makes absolutely no fucking sense in a Sci-Fi Space Opera and they didn't even bother trying to change things around a bit. You're telling me that these people have mastered advanced space travel, laser weapons and robotics but can't figure out automated farming and hydroponics?! Stuff like this is why i have zero sympathy for Hollywood script writers, these people don't deserve to be paid more, they don't deserve to be paid anything, you see better writing from random fanfic online.
Right, it makes sense on a small scale. Magnificent Seven also had that plot point involving Mexican Bandits stealing the harvest. You can imagine a band of a couple hundred, at most, being reliant on stealing grain from one village, but not a galactic empire.
Snyder steals plot points from movies and doesn't understand the plot point. He's just hoping you'll recognize "This is a reference!" and then make it make sense in your own head.
You could make a great movie out of the premise "Science Fiction: futuristic Seven Samurai," but you have to actually ADAPT it. Just having the idea doesn't do any of the work.
Small nitpick: Seven Samurai takes place in the Sengoku Period, not the Edo Period.
@@SolarDragon007 You're right, i was thinking of 47 Ronin.
You know it’s a bad/empty movie when EFAP’s “complete rundown” of a film is less than an hour longer than the film.
A few days ago he announced that he's also making a "Director's Cut" of _Sucker Punch_ (2011). Apparently the film where he had $80,000,000 to write, produce and direct with full creative impunity just wasn't crafted to his vision...
Yeah but Zack has “vision” though
How do you make hot girls in hot outfits fighting live-action anime battles boring? Zach Synder is the answer. I got so bored with it.
Zack Snyder's vision is the storyboard of whatever comic he's adapting.
@@SeomusYou make it not be the case. Wasnt it just brain damage or some shit?
The villain's name is "Noble"?......even though he acts IGnoble?? OMG, my expectations were just subverted so hard that I had to clean up my computer screen afterwards -how does Snyder come up with these genius character beats??
He was the villain? I thought he was the good guy.
@@taags was it the nazi/commisar outfit or him killing people that sold you on his nobility?
I really felt Snyder's vision inside me 😩
"Getting the love beaten out of me is the only thing that brings me joy."
-Francis Noble
"He's not wrong."
-Hentai Tentacles
@@kayenat10 i only it was hentai tentacles, that would have at least shut him the f up.
1:13:42 I can’t believe I’m about to say this, but Monty Python kind of successfully did this in comedy with the Romans in Life of Brian. They are definitely evil and there are resistance groups plotting against them, but the scene where John Cleese asks what the Romans ever did for them and then everyone begins to list all the technological and societal benefits that the Romans did bring… one of my favorite scenes, but a “realistic” portrayal of a ruthless empire that also is benefiting everyone in tangible ways.
"There's a suspicious amount of women on this Rebel Moon." - Atticus NoBull
A line of 1,886 kings and not once did they have a War of the Roses? If they each only reigned for 5 years, that’s 9,430 years. That’s ridiculous!
I mean I can buy it as... well, sci fi world but it's a wonder there is only one royal line there should be a gazillion
Unless the Royals had a serious case of Targaryen "keep it in the family" half the population would have royal genetics after 1000 years.
The secret of the Snyder Cut is that Zack listens to all the criticism of the first release and tries to fix it in the second. That's why he can't release the Directors Cut straight away.
but then why's it all _worse???_
@@bijibadness Because it’s Zack Snyder’s “vision”
@@nont18411 If his vision creates crap like this. I think home dawg needs glasses.
@@Deadsnake989 GOATed comment lmao
@@nont18411 His vision is sepia tones. He should consult his optometrist.
Alright calling it now, Khora is the assassin who killed the King and Queen, setup by those who wanted to seize power. She carried out her mission, but couldn't kill the princess though, so absconded with the child to this farm planet. The bad men have made Khora public enemy #1 because they need her to find the princess and finish off the bloodline. That girl who was about to be raped was actually the princess, which is why the robot was reminded of her. Also it's why the robot was able to shoot the bad man, since it could only use weapons to protect the royal bloodline. The soldier boy is the romantic interest of the princess, and will probably play a bigger role in the 2nd film, and the robot of course will be the princess's bodyguard/protector as she is the last of the bloodline.
Why do I think this? Because Zack Snyder lacks any imagination at all, and 90% of this film is just stolen bits of other movies, especially Battle beyond the stars which the first half of the film is almost a 1 to 1 rip. There are also bits of Star Wars, Free Willie, Independence Day, Crouching Tiger Hidden dragon, hentai tentacle porn, Gladiator, Dungeons and Dragons, just to name a few. It's as if Zack took segments of scenes he liked in various movies and fed them into an AI script generator, and filmed what came out the other side.
"Why do I think this?" Because it is so incredibly obvious that I would worry about the sanity of anyone not immediately getting that. I mean no ill towards you, btw, you are completely correct. Why else would we have EXTENDED scenes with her and the robot, going on and on about the holy BLONDE princess, a story which the robot conveys to the EQUALLY blonde girl.
You probably nailed it.
For the part about stolen bits, don’t forget how much shit Snyder took directly from the Warhammer 40k universe
@@granite6760 Also Khora's backstory of being taken as a kid and trained to be a deadly warrior is basically stolen from Marvel. It's almost a direct lift of Gamora and Thanos's relationship.
Don't lie just admit you actually wrote the screenplay and Zack stole it off you when he found it on a napkin at a restaurant you were both eating at. As i understand it its where he finds most of his original screen plays. 😂
Timestamps
0:00 EFAP Into The Snyderverse
11:25 How is Rebel Moon?
13:04 Comparision & Connection
14:49 A Star Wars Story
17:00 Cinematography
19:32 Netflix
20:40 Dave, Zac & Fringy's Doubt
23:49 Micheal Bay vs Zac Snyder
27:44 Works, Orignality & Chanches
32:24 At 32 min they start talking about Rebel Moon
40:49 The First Shot
42:24 The Main Character
46:25 The Community
50:28 Kora
55:45 This Village Is Under Attack!
1:03:25 The Grain Issue
1:15:32 The Crazy Evil Squadron
1:18:30 I Robot
1:25:57 Farmer vs Spacenazy
1:28:30 Rapetime & Slow Fight
1:37:09 The Plan
1:38:50 Backstory
1:40:57 The Cantina Scene
1:51:32 Sexy Octopus
1:52:36 The Shirtless Man & The Mystical Creature
2:06:12 Nemesis & The Spider
2:14:06 Lies & Backstory
2:17:00 Gladiatortime
2:19:00 Villanscenertime
2:20:27 The King & The Fake Planet
2:25:03 Pilotman & Kora
2:26:28 Planetary Destruction
2:30:20 Betrayal, Fights & Sacrifice
2:42:36 Boss Battle
2:44:20 The Beginning Of Something
2:47:34 Back Home
2:48:12 Next Episodes
2:50:07 Evilman Will Return
2:51:39 Director's Cut
2:54:58 The Movie And The Other Projects
3:00:39 Actors, Characters & Alternative Plotlines
3:08:33 Daydream & Opportunity
3:12:30 Closing
Thank You!
You should be getting paid for this fr
@@coolvibesradio3267 You're welcome!
I know come to the comments expecting to see your timestamps and I’ve become to rely on them. Thank you for your service!
Lmao. You quoted them verbatim at the 32 minute mark
The breakdown and commentary is so much more interesting than the actual film.
At least this video isn't filmed on a shitty camera Zack bought of Ebay
Unfortunately it’s been that way for like the last 5 years of movies.
You know it's gonna be ass when Disney of all companies see it and go "nuh uh".
At least Zack only screwed up his own IP and not ones that people love dearly (after him and WB screwed up DC of course). That's the one positive I can give this movie. I do feel a bit of dread for Amazon's 40K series because this movie was basically a woke 40K film. I can see them making a 5 foot 5 sister of battle able to 1V1 Chapter Masters and Hive Tyrants if Henry doesn't have plenary creative control.
@@Bonesawisready926 Well he was going to take this dump on Star Wars, so...
I'm calling it right now: the second or third movie will have bad guys using 8 ft tall genetically enhanced super soldiers in power armour called "The Marines"
Bonus poinrs for introdicing space elves, that get shitstomped by the OC marines
I was totally with Rags when they were saying “oh yeah there is actually going to be a director’s cut.” I thought they were memeing until then
Why is an entire empire relying on the grain output of a single small farming village? Because Zack is just copy-pasting from Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven, where the bandits are attacking a small farming village for their food, and he doesn't "adapt" the idea to make it fit. This is the height of pulling in elements you don't really understand and just hoping the reference to the other thing is enough to convey the concept. It makes sense for bandits, who don't have any resources other than their willingness to be violent, to be reliant upon the food they can steal from a single location, but not a galactic evil empire.
Zack doesn't grasp the things he's stealing from, he's just hoping you'll be pleased by the reference. It's why they never seemingly explain that they're getting together a crack team-Zack is already immersed in his Seven Samurai plot, so he doesn't explain because he wants you to recognize it. But he fails to realize it makes no sense in the context of HIS story.
Just wanting to do a Seven Samurai plot in a fantasy or sci-fi setting isn't wrong. I'd watch the hell out of that concept. But this is just superficially that concept, it doesn't actually establish a creative groundwork. You need a scenario in which a small number of highly skilled specialists can swing the outcome. You need them all to have a motivation for joining. It's also nice to give them relationships to each other so you can play off the group dynamic. Seven Samurai isn't good BECAUSE it's a small team assembled to defend a village, it's good because it has clear stakes and objectives, and because the characters go on interesting journeys through the story.
Dunno if you know but there was an old anime about sci-fi seven samurai; Samurai Seven. It's quite fun
@@r3dr4te963 Maybe I'll give it a look. It wouldn't be the only time that's been attempted-there was an episode of Mandalorian that was trying to do a Magnificent Seven thing. But because modern sci-fi can't seem to figure out how to write characters, these things lack the charm of the concept.
EFAP ripping on Zach Snyder is the only thing that brings me joy in life.
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So far, this movie is making Jupiter Ascending look like a masterpiece.
Oh right...I didn't imagine that film it actually happened
Jupiter Ascending was hilarious, though.
I'll give it that@@CharlesUrban
Eddie Redmayne was worth the price of admission. He was hilarious.
@@Bonesawisready926 Constantly talking at almost a whisper *AND THEN SCREAMING THINGS RANDOMLY!* It was AMAZING. I couldn't stop laughing.
Just realized how bad Scargiver is as a title/nickname because it means they only cut a person not actually land killing blows
So Deathbringer would have been better?
@@Atheismo9760 I was thinking Cutter, Ripper, Tearer, Slasher, or Hacker
I mean it might be cool... of Kora was like infamous for NOT killing but laving wounds that make you wish you were dead but that... is not how it goes
Snyder reminds me of Nicholas Hoult’s character from the Menu. The passion and trivial knowledge is there, and so frequently shared to the point of obnoxiousness, even if not really practically understood (film makers use dirty lens right? That’s film making?).
But when push comes to shove he can’t channel it into the craft in any sensible way.
Holy shit that is a great comparison lmao!
If Snyder was a movie reviewer, he’d be Chris stuckman
He'd have longer, even less coherent versions of his reviews on Nebula behind a paywall
But guys part 2 will make it all better
And then the directors cut of part 1 will make it all better
And then the directors cut of part 2 will make it all better
They got their whole cope train planned out for them for quite some time. So glad to get you guys covering this. Merry Christmas lads
If they aren’t better yet, prepare for part 3 and the director’s cut of part 3
Then the "Extented Second Aniversary 1 & 2 Rebel Directors Cut Edition" on 8K Ray......
condensed director's cut, where they blend both parts in ne movie
I have tried 3 times now to watch RM.
Never made more than an hour in.
It gives me a bit of a giggle to think that there will be time and money invested to produce 4 versions of this effluent.
I remember when people were saying Rebel Moon could be a Star Wars killer.
I also remember laughing my butt off after hearing that and knowing who was directing/writing.
Sure, it was possible, but it's like winning the lottery. There is always a chance. A very small one.
Now we just have one more modern sci-fi story to add to the dumpster. The Disney Star Wars and Star Trek stuff has kept the fire nice and toasty in there.
didn´t Star Wars kill itself by this point? saying RM kills SW is like watching a zombi hump a corpse.
54:30 When Star Trek was good one of the most interesting species was the Cardassians. They were hyper militarized and pretty much the Yatzies and soviets but their inner social sphere was fascinating they were very devoted to their families and the family unit and it drove them.
Absolutely, episodes that that gave us clearer glimpses into their world and culture were always a highlight, like the time O'Brian got arrested and taken to Cardassia for supposed war-crimes, and we get to see how their justice system works firsthand.
OMG... just occurred to me...
This is live action, A Bug's Life!
Bro
You see, nature has a certain order. The Snyder makes the film. The theatres pick up the film. The EFAPpers demolish the film...
Holy shit, they have finally started remaking Pixar movies. Honestly, it fits perfectly with the quality of all the other Disney live action remakes.
Who knew that Mulan, Cruella and Snow White will join the rebellion?
Holy shit.
It legit gives off vibe as if 14yo watched and read Dune, Star Wars and Foundation then decided to write own fanfiction world.
I laughed out loud when Rags said “Right now she’s a child of dirt.” 🤣
I thought the most hilarious thing about cyborg mans sacrifice is that, he didnt even attack the pilot, it was a dude in a turret and it somehow controls the whole ship, letting it crash, and, like, HOW?! Why does a turret have any control over that massive vessel's bearing? it should only change the turret angle. it's CRAZY
Remember when Superman in Batman vs “Superman” movie got way less screentime than Lois Lane and Lex Luthor? That’s high form of art right there.
I remember counting the words spoken by Superman in Snyder’s Justice League and I think he didn’t crack 100. Batman had over twice as many in BvS.
He likes faux edgy dialogue for edgy characters. He can’t write normal folks.
Zack Snyder was the wrong guy for DC, especially for Superman. You just get the impression that he really doesn't get or even like Superman at all.
Theres so much shit wrong with what hes doing NOW lol! Can we get passed the he fucked up supes thing? If you want proper supes you have to watch cartoons. Singers wasnt any better, and god knows james gunns will be awful. At least snyder casted it well. Though, i dunno if theres been a bad superman casting. Tyler hechlin maybe?
considering Superman was already fucked as a character in "Man of Steel", the amount of his screen time in the following dumpster fires was literally insignificant.
Tearing Zack Snyder movies is the only joy in my life. Merry Christmas everyone!
Best Christmas gift evar!
Merry Christmas!
It's your only joy in life, too??? Merry Christmas!
Ok but don't show up naked on Twitch, please.
@@canaldecasta 😏
Being wished and wishing Merry Christmas is the only joy in my life.
Merry Christmas everyone!
ah yes, one of efap's favorite crash test dummies: zack snyder...
😂😂😂
Snyder is a punching bag for every sane movie watcher along with Michael Bay
@@Darkstar_Dayne Atleast Michael Bay had explosions and hot women in his movies...
@@nickkowak9628id argue he at least is a competent film director until like transformers last knight where he kept transitioning lens every shot
All he has to do is make good movies...
@@Darkstar_Dayne At least Michael Bay knows what he’s doing. Snyder and his fanboys think that his works are high art.
If wood can block the plasma from guns in this universe, would Groot be bulletproof?
"That's Nemesis, she's got my back."
I like 300, but we should also remember that the movie was basically the comic shot for shot (both visually and plot) and, again, Snyder wasn't even the cinematograhper.
He did add the nonsensical B plot about the Spartan senate being a fifth column and cuckolding Leonidas.
@@btn6 oh, you're right! The bad part wasn't in the comic 😂
@@btn6 Explains why he only adopted children with his current wife.
She's also the producer in this one from what I've heard. And basically every other Snyder movie since Watchmen now that I checked it.
The Moon say: "I rebel" and then The Moon starts to rebel: "its moonin' time!" (slowmo and angry faces between exlosions)
Rebel Moon is the result of 30 years of hard work, regurgitating George Lucas' hard work through the anus of Battle Beyond the Stars! What a genius! My mouth is wide open to receive this bounty!
I...I strongly wish to unsee that mental image.
Get fucked lol lucas' hard work? George "cliff notes" lucas? This movie is shit, but lets not pretend lucas is jesus. Hes every bit the hack fraud hes been accused of being.
~Snyder fans
The R-rated cost argument doesn’t work because it’s streaming. This isn’t a film that could be hurt by a smaller audience in theaters (which is also a weak argument after Deadpool and Oppenheimer). But this was released on home media, it can be watched by everyone no matter what a parent says
Can it though? Ive never used parental controls but dont they have them?
@@jotun.616 These controls are as easy to navigate as simply changing to the main profile. But there isn’t a human that can’t/won’t sell you a ticket due to you being underage. With streaming, if you have the app, there’s a way to watch it in your home. Short of parents strictly monitoring things like it only being on a TV you can’t use unless they’re home, under 18 can absolutely get to the film
@@AmericanRollo yea i imagine its like trying to stop kids from seeing porn in the modern day. Its just not gonna happen no matter how strict you are.
@@jotun.616 i don´t think there was ever a time when parents could prevent their kids from watching porn. As for movies like this, just sit down with your offspring and discuss it. You´ll be surprised how fast the kids will dismiss this shit as soon as you encourage them to switch on their brain.
Rebel Moon, Sucker Punch, Watchmen, Ezra Miller... Not sure why Zack seems to been drawn to adult activity abuse scenes in either movies or actors?
Being charitable, I might say that he includes them because it's "edgy" and he's basically a 14 year old artistically.
Being less than charitable...he is in Hollywood, so who knows what he's really like. Hard to say.
its a mystery.
Zack Snyder has a weird habit of working with people who end up as abusers. First Amber Heard, Ezra Miller and Chris D’Elia.
It’s Hollywood
I can’t really fault him for Miller because the dude is very clearly a sociopath so he must have been good at hiding his true self from people. I have no love for Snyder as a filmmaker, but I don’t think it’s fair to attribute his repeated use of that trope to anything occurring in his real life. The guy just likes making super edgy movies and he feels that showing children being abused is a good way to highlight how dark things are in the universes his films take place in. Of course, when you repeatedly make use of a trope it begins to lose any of its meaning and almost comes off as parody at a certain point.
i was curious as to why the movie was so bad after the first few scenes because my friend encouraged me to watch this with him. as soon as the credits rolled and i saw Zack Snyder's name, i immediately realized why. in an odd way, since i had no idea it was made by him, it was like a twist ending where it all made sense at that moment lmao
It was Snyder all along.
Rebél moon 's like when you stretch an e3 video game trailer to 2 hours.
Dear god, the armor worn by the bad guys even looks like the armor that the Imperial Guard in Warhammer 40K wears.
Also? 12,000 bushels of wheat? A human can eat ~4 bushels of wheat a year, easily. So you're doing all this, traveling to another planet back and forth twice, just to feed 3,000 people?
53:00 She says that love was beaten out of her and taught to be a weakness, yet later, she will say that soldiers were encouraged to have lovers and form couples so they would draw some strength in face of the chaos of battle.
It will never cease to amaze me how many movies Zack Snyder still gets to make despite almost all of them getting bad reception. For some reason, corporate executives still see him as some misunderstood artistic genius when in reality he's a mentally 13-year-old hack who can't write at a beginner's level, let alone at a level worth hundreds of millions in production costs.
And the crazy thing is that none of them have performed up to expectations. Michael Bay has a handful of movies that made over a billion dollars. Snyder has not accomplished that except as a producer credit on Aquaman
@@colten53 At least Michael Bay movies are fun. Snyder movies are not.
@@colten53 I think up until Transformers 5, the only Michael Bay film to have ever lost money was The Island (which is pretty good btw). Ive softened a lot on Michael Bay. As much as I hated Transformers 2-4 (never watched 5) I'll take those bad movies over the bad movies we get these days. The most Mike pushed a message was the creepy "Romeo and Juliet" laws scene in Transformers 4. I really hope that shit wasn't some sort of self-report.
13 year old hack? I love how everyone in these comments say the same thing
@@scottf5791 And that's bad because? Why do they need to say different things? They agree, so why come up with different ways to say the same thing?
The fact that this is what got rejected as his Star Wars pitch should automatically indicate this movie's quality
52:50 I could actually believe she literally said "sad face" after hearing that dialogue.
Can anyone name a more overrated director than Snyder?
Where did he learn to direct? On a farm?
Him and Rian are fighting for my least favorite director
Mila Jovovich's husband
James Cameron
Snyder is the only thing that brings me joy
First they announced a Zack Snyder "starwarsish" movie. Then they said it's gonna be a two parter. Then they said the first part already has a "director's cut". I'd say someone should buy a pair of scissors and gift it to Zack Snyder, 'cause he obviously doesn't know how to trim down his movies... but I guess at this point someone should get him a paper shredder so he knows what to do with the useless scenes he wrote.
When your spinal cord is severed like that, you aren't only paralysed, you just die.
You know how in Star Wars even the poorest people and the simplest farmers and scavengers have droids and everything hovers? Yeah, in this masterpiece derived from Star Wars, they use horses and by-hand labor. And that's integral to the entire Empire entity.
the empire taught her that love is weakness but then later she says they were encouraged to have a companion or something
Wait... are you telling me this movie was so lame, the breakdown took just barely more than the running time? 🤨
Yeah it’s just that shallow! XD
It's so simple, what's not to get? It's the moon and it rebel.
Duh
Before I watch this EFAP, this is my take on the movie. The camera was weirdly in and out of focus. It wasn't too hard to look at, but it was distracting to notice that everything that wasn't in the center always shifted out of focus. The effects were really weird too, since many of the lights, lasers, and such things all completely overtook every scene. This one scene early on when Kora and Oldman were talking, the fire was SO bright, it was the most distracting thing I've ever seen because I'm trying to take in the surroundings, but the fire is SO bright, and the glare effects from it stretch across the scene. The glare as well stretched off the fire and lazers and OVER people's faces, and that was also distracting, especially in the slow-motion scenes that highlighted nothing cool. The slow-motion only slowed down lazers and people's faces, and none of that is cool enough on its own to warrant hyper-fixation on it. Visuals aside, the story was a complete nonsense mish-mash of unexplained names, places, and entities colliding over some drama about kingdom succession and tyranny. All of this unexplained nonsense is then fed through the lens of uncharacterized stereotypes. The "general" does nothing general-like, the saber lady was there to slash at things, some rebel guy sacrificed his life so... something could happen, and nobody cared, including myself. Some super cool badass dude rode a hippogriff, and I accurately called that the PROPER thing to do would be incorporating this skill into a later scene, but it wouldn't happen - I was correct. The people handed one of our protagonists a gun so he could execute his friends himself, and to the surprise of nobody, he used that gun to free everyone and save the day, all the while I screamed at the screen. I thought about the movie after it finished, and came to the conclusion that I know nothing about this world or its inhabitants, learned nothing about myself or my own world, watched a bunch of contradictory scenes with nothing-characters, and only FELT like giving it higher than a 3 because it looked nice at times.
Edit: Oh, and I thought Kora was potentially a Mary Sue. She had training we don't see that allows her to win basically all combat scenarios, but she's skinny, she's liked by basically everyone, she never struggles or wrestles with anything, all her enemies get stupider when attempting to kill her, and she's super amiable.
Zack Snyder is in love with defective camera lenses because he's decided that improperly-focused shots are artistic.
That's no, rebel, Moon.
The contrast between rebel moon and Andor is so big. It’s not night and day it’s heaven and hell. Lol
Zack Snyder literally stole the plot from "A Bug's Life".
A village is being harassed by bad guys who want their crops, two villagers are sent to gather an army of misfits to fight them back.
He stole... from A BUGS LIFE.
Those fight scenes are just so... so... modern female protagonist-ic.
Instead of her going in face first, overpowering men that are twice her size and plot armor'ing her way through it, Zack could have her, I dunno, use tactics? Make her look smart? Show us that she's an elite ex-soldier and has some tricks and enhancements that make her more powerful than your average grunt.
Imagine: Before the fight even starts, the lights go out, leaving them all in darkness. She sneaks in, takes down two of them before anyone is the wiser. Give us a quick pov of her, showing that she has implants that allow her to see in total darkness. Then she starts shooting when they are going for their guns and bring out the flashlights. Running out of ammo, she takes the last three of them on, with the bad guy staying in the back, holding down anti-rape soldier. Have her take some hits, have them gang up on her. Then a quick sucker punch against one of the soldiers when they think they got her. Now it's a 1vs1. Have him grapple her, only for him to look surprised and panicking when she gets out of it by showing strength that seems impossible for a woman her size (again more implants). End scene with a stalemate situation because the last bad guy has a gun to the hostage, with her showing exhaustion from the fight. Maybe even have her bleed or holding her ribs in pain.
It's THAT easy Zack.
The "woman beats up all the big strong men" trope is getting really old at this point. I actually give John Wick 4 big props that they showed a woman fighting in a believable way where she's moving around slicing achilles tendons and shit. Having to basically fight on the floor and hit weak spots to avoid getting hurt. It really feels like Hollywood is forcing a message when every movie has a 90 pound soaking wet woman beat up grown ass men.
My expectations are actually subverted when a female character CAN'T beat up all the grown ass men in the film.
Compare the fight scenes here to the Amazons in Snyder Cut. That movie sucks, sure. But when the Amazons are punching parademons, we see their muscles bulge and they cores go rigid when they swing jackhammers and dogpile a 10-feet goat-headed demon call Steppenwolf without fear.
The first fight of the Watchmen with the Comedian has barely any slow motion. There's maybe two or four slow-mo shots and then the third is the big one he gets thrown through the window.
The action here is: skinny goth girl throws punch. Big man hurt. Big man grabs skinny girl and punches. Girl gets hurt. Skinny girl punches harder. Man falls down.
He's done the same thing before. With Kal-El and Wonder Woman. THAT was a moment. THIS is a joke.
I just realized that she never shows a hint of rust when she starts fighting again when we’re led to believe that she hasn’t fought in years.
Oh dear, you've made the light's out fight in Kenobi sound good.....in principle.
I thought she must be like a space marine or something and those were called children of fire but... no my expectations got subverted
50 bucks says the r-rated version is the exact same movie, but with a lot more octopus fucking in it
*Slow-mo* octopus fucking
The Zack Snyder Parody character from The Boys Season 3 is more self-aware than the real thing.
Wait who’s that?
I love how the whole efap cast says "robit" like Zoidberg.😂
Rebel Noom!
I believe in Noom
It gives your constipation the Nyooms.
The first movie to earn a noomillion dollars! A certified Snyder masterpiece, a Snasterpiece if you will.
I honestly think Michael Bay would’ve done a better DC Universe than Snyder.
can't wait for super 18+ edition duper extra director's cut, this will definetely make this movie better.
Zack Snyder should just be directing commercials and music videos. He'd be fine at that. I don't understand why studios keep giving him films, though.
How Hack Snyder is keep getting big budget projects is beyond me. Does his cultists blackmail studios suits or something?
Wife is the producer
How? He made a human sacrifice to Hollywood.