Its interesting they went with flaps instead of the aquagaurd zippers. Maybe they preferred to have a smoother pull w/ the dyneema material. Dyneema is the most waterproof fabric you can probably get outside of straight vinyl or rubber, so I guess the flap lets zero water in as opposed to the aquagard which may let a little seep in. I have a Dyneema Defy bag and I love it, I like it more than xpacs, it just feels smooth to the touch and its slides so its good for like slings, its light too. I'll keep my eye out for this one.
How do you like your Defy bag? I hear a lot of good things about them, but their back panel (like with GoRuck bags) seems like it's got very little ventilation.
The flaps are very often blocking the zippers so you have to pull them back. You have to know it’s not the same smooth zipper opening as the other Goruck I owned.
@@Ellman1231 I have a defy insidious sling in dyneema. It’s a sling so padding would just add extra bulk, I prefer it’s as light, slim, and smooth gliding over the clothes as possible. It’s not like a backpack where you’d have a heavier load pressing on the same spot on your back. That said the shoulder strap is the single best shoulder strap I’ve ever used. It’s strange the Defy looks plain and boxy, but it’s my most comfortable bag on body, and I own a lot of bags by aer, boundary supply, etc that are known for comfort.
Thank you for watching! Although the flap can sometimes get in the way it does feel like a good balance of easier zippers vs aquaguard and still offering a good amount of protection. Haven’t had a chance to check out defy bags, but I’ve heard great things!
Thank you for watching! All feel rock solid and it does feel like the heritage will be able to handle serious daily use although I would still have a little more piece of mind with xpac and Dyneema in the rain. The original 1000d still feels like the most durable imo but just takes a long time to break in and feel really comfortable
Hey Dean! Yes a sample was provided for the video and I agree the weight on this is an improvement over some of the other models I’ve checked out and still feels rock solid!
Look at this bag, although I’m thinking about the Gr2 26L for the added pocket and organization. Thoughts??? Some videos show the dimensions are very similar with the width being the only difference by a few inches.
Thank you for watching! This is always a tough one for me to answer😅 I really love both bags overall, if I had to pick one I suppose I would lean towards the gr2 as it will provide some additional space and flexibility for travel, but for edc I tend to reach for the gr1 more as the additional compartment on the gr2 does make it feel a little bulkier (it’s not terrible and will feel better as it breaks in)
@@JaimeBlanco666 I picked up the GR2 26L in Dyneema and I’m happy with the purchase, the additional storage pockets make it more convenient when needed. Some people talk about the concerns with Dyneema but as a avid hiker with a Dyneema Back Pack from HMG with over 600 miles of use I’m happy with the fabric. As the GR2 will only be used in and around the city or simple weekend trips. Take care and hope you have a great weekend, and enjoy your next purchase.
Thank you for watching! The zippers feel pretty smooth overall (I haven’t tried the grx1 so I can’t say how similar they are), although not quite as smooth as the ones on the heritage imo, will keep an eye out to see how they feel after a couple months of use
Thank you for watching and I’m glad the video was helpful!:) definitely a tough choice, in general the dyneema feels more durable and it holds its shape better but I lean towards the robic version because I like the more subdued appearance, the fact it doesn’t have the crinkle sound and that the bag feels more broken in right away
I havent used my Dragonfly yet but i test packed with it. Its 30L so its bigger than either GR1. It packs so much better while using peak design packing cubes and the internal comrpession straps. The goruck bag *probably* is more durable based on the feel, type of fabric, and amount of padding, but if you are mostly using it for point A to point B instead of going through rough environments, i wouldnt be worried about the Dragonfly. Mind you, the ultra fabric is supposed to be quite durable. I do wish the straps and backpanel had more padding but its not uncomfortable when packed out. Coming from a GR2 26L, i definitely appreciate the lighter weight as the GR2 was about 4 or more pounds empty.
That was my thinking as well. This GR1 looks nice but compared to the Dragonfly Ultra which is lighter, more versatile, and significantly cheaper I can't justify getting the GR1 over it. I do like the look of the GR1 though, and I'm sure its built well as GoRuck built their reputation on making gear that lasts forever, but doesn't seem worth it to me.@@JustFluxz
Thank you for watching! Like justfluxz said, the dragonfly will be a bit larger and lighter, I haven’t had a chance to test out the ULA bags yet (they sell out so quick!) but I’ve heard great things from everyone that has them. Seems like if weight or additional space is important the ULA would be a good alternative
Thank you for watching and definitely a tough choice!!😅 I absolutely love the heritage edition and it feels very durable, but if I had to pick one I might go with the Dyneema version as it is a little lighter and I feel like I would have a little more piece of mind getting it wet or dirty
@@dannypacks Do you know if Dyneema is more durable than the 1000/500D? I want to get the Heritage EDC, and I need one more for the site project. I am an engineer. Advise, please
@@anas7hamedliterally that’s all over their website. Dyneema is significantly more abrasion resistant, stronger, more durable than 1000D, 1680D, Kevlar, etc.
Thank you for watching! I’m definitely curious, I’m not super familiar with ultra fabric but based on the design article it sounds pretty interesting, especially if it has a little less “crinkle”. It’s cool they chose to release it in some different models this time around as well, if I’m fast enough I might try to snag one😅
Thank you for watching! Unfortunately I haven’t used a ton of dyneema bags so I don’t have a ton to compare to but it doesn’t feel overly thin imo it’s deceptive because the fabric is really light
@@dannypacks I had hesitated to buy it in Japan because it was almost 1.5 times the price due to the weak yen, but finally bought it yesterday. This video was quite helpful. Thank you. Keep up the good work.
I'm worried how this bag will look 10 years from now. Will it look like a battered Dyneema camping tarp out in the wilderness? If so that feels too much to me like a kick in the face for a $600 bag.
Thank you for watching and definitely a fair question! I’m curious as well how dyneema will age, so far it’s been doing great so hopefully that continues
Thank you for watching! Always a tricky question given how many great bags are currently available and what everyone values most in a bag, but for me I believe it’s worth it due to the durability, warranty and I’m just a big fan of the style and form of the bag
I have purchased the original GR1 Guerilla limited edition Carryology collab and have to admit being unhappy to see Goruck launching almost the same backpack 2 years later. I will not purchase anymore any collaboration Goruck will make, it’s not honest.
You are mad that you paid more or that it lost some value? Evergoods did the same with the ctb. Why only deliver to scalpers or the few when a concept is super popular?
Because the purpose of a collaboration is to have 2 teams trying to upgrade a product with a limited run of production. In this case, even though it’s not exactly the same bag (no orange lining inside) Goruck have done almost the same bag. I don’t care about the value as I have no plan to sell my bag, just to say that if you do a Collab thing with some kind of exclusivity, what all bags enthusiast loves, then don’t launch the same bag.
@@928ruf Why does it have to be like this? There is nothing that says a collab has to be like that. Imo a collab is where, like you said, 2 companies work together to create something new, with a result taking both companies ideas in mind. For me, not aiming at an upgrade, because why would Goruck or evergoods make the original in the way they did then? It should take into account both companies views and create something unique. If this happens to be super successful, why would you, as a company, not think about implementing something similar in your line-up? It's not the same bag. But apparently people liked the option. Every reviewer kept saying that they should make it and they probably got tons of emails. According to you, everyone that wanted a CTB26, a bag so popular that it has run out of stock every time, should have just ffed off because it was originally a collab?
@@DaemonViews It’s the principle of limited edition of these collaborations and it’s not just working with backpacks… Products are co-developed in a limited run, to be more desirable, it’s marketing. Afterwards I understand that these brands are seeing that this product is popular (maybe more than what they were expecting) and would like to “mass produce” it. This to respond to the market needs and make money….this will badly impact their future collaboration (and as well their marketing strategy) their customers will wait. I have understood, I’m waiting for the Evergoods CPL Heritage that will surely arrive in a few months, it will be the copy of the recent Griffin that I have decided not to purchase.
Thank you for watching and for the additional information! Definitely been interesting to read more about different fabrics with the new ultra, robic and dyneema releases
I have a custom dynema pack ive used on long thru hikes in CA Sierras and Africa. Its def abrasion resistant & never had an issue on 200+mile mountain regions for years. Falls on rocks, tree branches and some frightening bear encounters - no issues.
I absolutely TOTALLY DISAGREE. He ALWAYS offers alternatives to any and all bags he reviews. His reviews are always consistent, very detailed. Regardless of the particular brand. Don’t like his reviews, plenty of others out there to choose from.
@@issamchajii because when you get something for free, not matter how much you claim its you opinion only, your are not critical towards the product. Because you want to keep those sweet sweet perks.
Thanks buddy. I love mine.
Thank you for watching and glad to hear the bag has been working out well!:)
Great review. I'm buying it
Thank you for watching and I’m glad the video was helpful! Hope you enjoy it as much as I have!:)
Its interesting they went with flaps instead of the aquagaurd zippers. Maybe they preferred to have a smoother pull w/ the dyneema material. Dyneema is the most waterproof fabric you can probably get outside of straight vinyl or rubber, so I guess the flap lets zero water in as opposed to the aquagard which may let a little seep in. I have a Dyneema Defy bag and I love it, I like it more than xpacs, it just feels smooth to the touch and its slides so its good for like slings, its light too. I'll keep my eye out for this one.
glad they didn't use aquaguard. Terrible hand feel and not as crispy as plastic YKKs
How do you like your Defy bag? I hear a lot of good things about them, but their back panel (like with GoRuck bags) seems like it's got very little ventilation.
The flaps are very often blocking the zippers so you have to pull them back. You have to know it’s not the same smooth zipper opening as the other Goruck I owned.
@@Ellman1231 I have a defy insidious sling in dyneema. It’s a sling so padding would just add extra bulk, I prefer it’s as light, slim, and smooth gliding over the clothes as possible. It’s not like a backpack where you’d have a heavier load pressing on the same spot on your back. That said the shoulder strap is the single best shoulder strap I’ve ever used. It’s strange the Defy looks plain and boxy, but it’s my most comfortable bag on body, and I own a lot of bags by aer, boundary supply, etc that are known for comfort.
Thank you for watching! Although the flap can sometimes get in the way it does feel like a good balance of easier zippers vs aquaguard and still offering a good amount of protection. Haven’t had a chance to check out defy bags, but I’ve heard great things!
What do you think of the XPAC, heritage and original GoRuck for durability? Will heritage last with rough daily use?
Thank you for watching! All feel rock solid and it does feel like the heritage will be able to handle serious daily use although I would still have a little more piece of mind with xpac and Dyneema in the rain. The original 1000d still feels like the most durable imo but just takes a long time to break in and feel really comfortable
I wish that i could have gotten a quick access pocket added to my GR1.
Thank you for watching! Definitely an awesome addition and something that will hopefully be added to more of their bags going forward
Hey Danny, did they provide the sample? It looks great I cant believe a Goruck bag that weighs 2.3lbs empty! Usually goruck bags are 3 times heavier
Hey Dean! Yes a sample was provided for the video and I agree the weight on this is an improvement over some of the other models I’ve checked out and still feels rock solid!
Look at this bag, although I’m thinking about the Gr2 26L for the added pocket and organization. Thoughts??? Some videos show the dimensions are very similar with the width being the only difference by a few inches.
Thank you for watching! This is always a tough one for me to answer😅 I really love both bags overall, if I had to pick one I suppose I would lean towards the gr2 as it will provide some additional space and flexibility for travel, but for edc I tend to reach for the gr1 more as the additional compartment on the gr2 does make it feel a little bulkier (it’s not terrible and will feel better as it breaks in)
Having just bought a black heritage GR1, I wish I had gone with a GR2 (I own one in Java). I’ll be ordering a 26L GR2 in Dyneema next week.
@@JaimeBlanco666 I picked up the GR2 26L in Dyneema and I’m happy with the purchase, the additional storage pockets make it more convenient when needed. Some people talk about the concerns with Dyneema but as a avid hiker with a Dyneema Back Pack from HMG with over 600 miles of use I’m happy with the fabric. As the GR2 will only be used in and around the city or simple weekend trips. Take care and hope you have a great weekend, and enjoy your next purchase.
How smooth are the zippers? I’ve used the GRXC1 and the zippers on that are much more difficult to use than on a Heritage GR1, for instance. Thanks!
Same question
Thank you for watching! The zippers feel pretty smooth overall (I haven’t tried the grx1 so I can’t say how similar they are), although not quite as smooth as the ones on the heritage imo, will keep an eye out to see how they feel after a couple months of use
@@dannypacks thanks for the feedback! This helps a lot when deciding to buy or not.
Great video. Question please. How do you compare this against the Robic gr1? Which do you prefer?
Thank you for watching and I’m glad the video was helpful!:) definitely a tough choice, in general the dyneema feels more durable and it holds its shape better but I lean towards the robic version because I like the more subdued appearance, the fact it doesn’t have the crinkle sound and that the bag feels more broken in right away
What do you think of the GR1 Dyneema vs ULA Dragonfly Ultra? Which would you get?
I havent used my Dragonfly yet but i test packed with it. Its 30L so its bigger than either GR1. It packs so much better while using peak design packing cubes and the internal comrpession straps. The goruck bag *probably* is more durable based on the feel, type of fabric, and amount of padding, but if you are mostly using it for point A to point B instead of going through rough environments, i wouldnt be worried about the Dragonfly. Mind you, the ultra fabric is supposed to be quite durable. I do wish the straps and backpanel had more padding but its not uncomfortable when packed out. Coming from a GR2 26L, i definitely appreciate the lighter weight as the GR2 was about 4 or more pounds empty.
That was my thinking as well. This GR1 looks nice but compared to the Dragonfly Ultra which is lighter, more versatile, and significantly cheaper I can't justify getting the GR1 over it. I do like the look of the GR1 though, and I'm sure its built well as GoRuck built their reputation on making gear that lasts forever, but doesn't seem worth it to me.@@JustFluxz
Thank you for watching! Like justfluxz said, the dragonfly will be a bit larger and lighter, I haven’t had a chance to test out the ULA bags yet (they sell out so quick!) but I’ve heard great things from everyone that has them. Seems like if weight or additional space is important the ULA would be a good alternative
Between heritage and dyneema, which one you prefer?
Thank you for watching and definitely a tough choice!!😅 I absolutely love the heritage edition and it feels very durable, but if I had to pick one I might go with the Dyneema version as it is a little lighter and I feel like I would have a little more piece of mind getting it wet or dirty
@@dannypacks Do you know if Dyneema is more durable than the 1000/500D?
I want to get the Heritage EDC, and I need one more for the site project. I am an engineer.
Advise, please
@@anas7hamedliterally that’s all over their website. Dyneema is significantly more abrasion resistant, stronger, more durable than 1000D, 1680D, Kevlar, etc.
1000D is goinf to be the most durable hands down. @anas7hamed
What are your thoughts on the upcoming Ultra??
Thank you for watching! I’m definitely curious, I’m not super familiar with ultra fabric but based on the design article it sounds pretty interesting, especially if it has a little less “crinkle”. It’s cool they chose to release it in some different models this time around as well, if I’m fast enough I might try to snag one😅
Danny which bag holds more? TB patagon v1 or gr1 21l?
Thank you for watching! It’s fairly close but to me it still feels like the gr1 holds a bit more
Please share a link for the John Wick Velcro Patch 🙏 Thanks in advance 🤙🏽
Thank you for watching and just added a link for it in the description!
I don't think it's thin because it's not transparent in the video, but can you tell how thick the Dyneema fabric is?
Thank you for watching! Unfortunately I haven’t used a ton of dyneema bags so I don’t have a ton to compare to but it doesn’t feel overly thin imo it’s deceptive because the fabric is really light
@@dannypacks I had hesitated to buy it in Japan because it was almost 1.5 times the price due to the weak yen, but finally bought it yesterday.
This video was quite helpful. Thank you.
Keep up the good work.
If they redid the XPAC GR2 with 210D and shoulder strap webbing, I'd be in.
Thank you for watching and I agree, would love to see the xpac collection get another release!
I need this patch? Danny, where to get?
Thank you for watching! I added an Amazon link for it in the description if you want to check it out :)
great
I'm worried how this bag will look 10 years from now. Will it look like a battered Dyneema camping tarp out in the wilderness? If so that feels too much to me like a kick in the face for a $600 bag.
Thank you for watching and definitely a fair question! I’m curious as well how dyneema will age, so far it’s been doing great so hopefully that continues
Prices?
$495
Thank you for watching! Like jimbo said, 495 for the 21l featured in this video
is it worth it?
Thank you for watching! Always a tricky question given how many great bags are currently available and what everyone values most in a bag, but for me I believe it’s worth it due to the durability, warranty and I’m just a big fan of the style and form of the bag
I have purchased the original GR1 Guerilla limited edition Carryology collab and have to admit being unhappy to see Goruck launching almost the same backpack 2 years later.
I will not purchase anymore any collaboration Goruck will make, it’s not honest.
You are mad that you paid more or that it lost some value?
Evergoods did the same with the ctb.
Why only deliver to scalpers or the few when a concept is super popular?
Because the purpose of a collaboration is to have 2 teams trying to upgrade a product with a limited run of production.
In this case, even though it’s not exactly the same bag (no orange lining inside) Goruck have done almost the same bag.
I don’t care about the value as I have no plan to sell my bag, just to say that if you do a Collab thing with some kind of exclusivity, what all bags enthusiast loves, then don’t launch the same bag.
@@928ruf Why does it have to be like this?
There is nothing that says a collab has to be like that.
Imo a collab is where, like you said, 2 companies work together to create something new, with a result taking both companies ideas in mind. For me, not aiming at an upgrade, because why would Goruck or evergoods make the original in the way they did then? It should take into account both companies views and create something unique.
If this happens to be super successful, why would you, as a company, not think about implementing something similar in your line-up?
It's not the same bag. But apparently people liked the option.
Every reviewer kept saying that they should make it and they probably got tons of emails.
According to you, everyone that wanted a CTB26, a bag so popular that it has run out of stock every time, should have just ffed off because it was originally a collab?
@@DaemonViews It’s the principle of limited edition of these collaborations and it’s not just working with backpacks…
Products are co-developed in a limited run, to be more desirable, it’s marketing.
Afterwards I understand that these brands are seeing that this product is popular (maybe more than what they were expecting) and would like to “mass produce” it.
This to respond to the market needs and make money….this will badly impact their future collaboration (and as well their marketing strategy) their customers will wait.
I have understood, I’m waiting for the Evergoods CPL Heritage that will surely arrive in a few months, it will be the copy of the recent Griffin that I have decided not to purchase.
Dyneema is waterproof but not abrasion resistant.
Thank you for watching and for the additional information! Definitely been interesting to read more about different fabrics with the new ultra, robic and dyneema releases
I have a custom dynema pack ive used on long thru hikes in CA Sierras and Africa. Its def abrasion resistant & never had an issue on 200+mile mountain regions for years. Falls on rocks, tree branches and some frightening bear encounters - no issues.
To bad, another reviewer that cannot be trusted anymore when he is supplied with free bags by the maker.
I absolutely TOTALLY DISAGREE. He ALWAYS offers alternatives to any and all bags he reviews. His reviews are always consistent, very detailed. Regardless of the particular brand. Don’t like his reviews, plenty of others out there to choose from.
Can you explain why?
@@issamchajii because when you get something for free, not matter how much you claim its you opinion only, your are not critical towards the product. Because you want to keep those sweet sweet perks.
@@McAero08 I tend to agree with your point of view, but if that's the case then we cannot trust 90% of UA-cam reviewers.
@@issamchajii that is correct and that is how it is
Didn’t even sell out. 😂 fail…👎🏻👎🏻
At least they're experimenting with new materials but man the price is getting up there!