I was babysitting when I was 12 years old. I wasn’t already a mother though. This whole story is sick, including that the mother only got 2 years 4 months in jail. She could have saved David’s life but chose not to.
my brother was in charge of us when he was 12. those were just when my parents went on dates. we also has a bunch of babysitters. but the word was very different in the 80's and 90's.
Not a single person in this story stood a chance. The mom, as flawed as she is, was neglected by an alcoholic mother, and pregnant by 11. This whole situation is absolutely tragic.
Agreed. This whole story made me wanna sob & barf. I'm amazed America takes away abortion but doesn't offer parenting classes or homes with electricity for widows who are only 11yrs older than their own son...💔💔💔💔
@@AmberAmber At the time she was pregnant, abortion was totally available everywhere in the USA. And the money needed for parenting classes, is needed for illegal migrants, and for wars and Planned parenthood. In the end the main failure came from DCF for not taking Bianella away from her mother, and also for not taking her kids away from her. She left her young children alone at home, inexcusable, and also married and had children with a very violent man. No Abortions (murder of babies) or parenting classes, or electricity for widows, would have stopped this from happening. And what makes you think they did not have electricity anyway. She was on a laptop, mobile phone, and also the TV. She had a car, and probably received benefits, including the home they were in. Just terrible parenting all round. Sad situation, but not the first and will not be the last.
She had the kid at 11 YEARS OLD. How the hell did DCF leave her with her drug addicted mother????? Did they not investigate who the F got the 11 year old PREGNANT???
They literally do not care They take kids from healthy homes all the time for bs reasons And yet never act when its to actually protect children I am disabled I walk on crutches and have since I was a child so that means I almost always had bruises etc from falling because of slippery floors or just tripping while playing etc My aunt one time got into an argument with my mom over some stupid reason and she was a nurse so she used her connections to report my mom for child abuse and dcfs believed her over my mom because she was a nurse The only reason i didn't get taken away was because one, we moved so they stopped pursuit (shows how useful they actually are when we literally just moved a county or two away and they decided that was too much to pursue the safety of the child they were supposedly so concerned over!!), two my uncle who was a reputable fire fighter and my grandpa who was a veteran and well known in the community and by local gov stepped up to fight for us against her claims and explained she wasn't just reporting a patient as was her duty but rather a family member who she disliked and had lied about that "so why wouldn't she lie about everything else". But dcfs would have GLADLY taken me away from a mom who loved me JUST because a nurse said she was abusing me without an ACTUAL investigation into the matter because "a nurse would never lie", like that SOMEHOW makes the automatically good people with no ulterior motives! My aunt conveniently left out she knew my mom and had bad blood with her and wasn't reporting a patient as she was required to do like she led them to believe in her initial report, she just made it seem like it was a patient who brought their kid in and she saw the bruises etc. Dcfs are DUMB AF and do more harm than good, and I will NEVER change my mind about that.
My life is pretty hard but when I hear about these types of situations, I cannot even imagine. In Hindusim, they make sense of this kind of suffering by believing that it is karma = something you have to go through to keep reaching other levels.. Due to past actions from previous lives. I guess these beliefs make people feel better in some way
So the mother was raped as an 11 year old and left with an addict mother and NOW they are shocked she isn't coping on her own? Everything about this is wrong and could have been avoided if the 11year old little girl was protected in the first place.
@CocoGames_0 You're one of those annoying people who plays devil's advocate no matter what the perfectly-reasonable statement is. Just stop. You think you're so smart. But you're just annoying, like a little gnat buzzing around.
@@ferox965 This has nothing to do with Republicans … Just look at the amount of people that are entering The US funds and funds are being transferred to other departments. Do you how many children are missing in America? Plus, those of the new arrivals. In Europe, what this detective is doing is illegal? You are not allowed to question a child without appropriate adult. Especially, if you don’t have psychological help, The children still spoke the truth.
yeah very smart seen how people always blames others for their fails, yeah I am loser because of the system. Life is a series of choices nothing else and she made hers, left her son died
@@GamerX-qn7ou she was raped by a 20 year old and gave birth at 11 years old. Her mother was a drug addict who neglected her. She was likely abused by her ex husband. While an explanation is not an excuse, there is no denying that she was dealt a shit hand and was likely developmentally stunted from the trauma. Someone can be a really fucked person and still be a victim.
I know it's heart breaking to think she was only 23/24 at this point. So sad. She was so stunted. Like why wasn't she immediately put into care with baby at 12 when she had him? These kids needed a parent, even her. Poor babies.
Exactly! All I know is that these detectives are the hardest working people I can think of. They don't do physical work, but the mental gymnastics they go through day in and day out is astonishing! The human brain is amazing.
No…. They aren’t “victims”. They are perpetrators !!! The mother should NEVER had kids, let alone 3. She is a horrible mom !!! The 12 year old acts like a 4 year old !! He is a lunatic !!
@@dcb1138 That is an easy statement to make if you can't grasp the complexities of trauma and human psychology. Most things in life are a lot less black and white than is convenient.
personally, I find the law that allows children to be interviewed without the presence of parents or some sort of caretakers cruel. This was an all night interrogation for a 12 year old, and yes, she was kind of nice but this was still inappropriate.
It doesn’t happen a lot but it does happen. Sometimes teens have kids while in foster care. A lot of these kids are sexualized and/or are sexually reactive. It’s really sad
@roninkraut6873 it's hard to find comprehensive stats, but research into it (Annie E. Casey Foundation) shows approx. 10% of teens in foster care are parents by 19, and 23% are parents by 21. It's also important to remember that more than 30 states allow youth to remain in foster care until 21. That means that, actually, MANY foster youth are parents themselves in the US. It's very sad and very common
Deranged is the wrong choice of word you mean incredibly sad….. I’m 100% sure being pregnant at 11 and have 4 kids by 23 was not in her long term life plan
She having been sexually abused at 10 and having a baby at 11. And being in and out of Foster homes. Christian getting absolutely molested and severely beaten by his dad, and then to top it all off witnesses him blowing his own brains out in-front of them. It was almost a guarantee that he would be messed up and have violent outbursts after having experienced that kind of trauma so young, and such a short time frame. Crazy all around.
Adverse Childhood Experiences or ACES….. if this hadn’t happened, he would be terrorizing a random child at school. Child Services failed this family. She should’ve had consistent check ins based on her own trauma. this is so sad.
It’s crazy how many Hispanics I know of when I was a teenager and girls younger than Me would has 30yo Hispanic boyfriends & their moms knew I know Hispanic girls that had kids at 13 & 14 That ish was completely shocking to Me the way I was raised until My Mom & Dad divorced Then single Moms & life completely changed Next thing you know I’m living in the hood and experiencing crazy stuff like that around Me Just Wild Stuff
I don't think Christian saw the suicide. He went to school beaten, got sent to the hospital, then the cops were going to arrest step-dad and he suicided. Not disputing he went through hell but wanted to clarify.
These police officers dont care about people, all they care about is getting the truth so they can charge people. The system is sick so it rubs off on all of us
Apparently the mother used to live with her grandma in the Dominican Republic and she was raised pretty well there. Then at 8 her abusive mom showed up out of nowhere and moved her to Miami. Everything went downhill from there. If she had stayed with her grandma and never moved her life would have definitely been a lot different and better
Boomers in the comment think she was capable because they were able to watch their siblings alone when they were younger. It's insane how they gloss over the part where an 11yo girl gave birth and was put in foster care WITH her son.
@@toidIllorTAmI I’m a boomer, and I was never left alone, nor did I ever leave my children alone. I know it was commonly done, but I’ve questioned just how much common sense the boomer parents, mine included, had.
@@UwUImTheo it's not an excuse, it's mental illness which people like you ignore and suddenly ask "why is there so many crazy people?" She and her children needed help and guess what? It took a murder to get her the help because people like you ignore her.
The demon passes from perpetrator to victim during the @buse. Then, the victim is either manipulated to turn into a perpetrator, and they manage to overcome and fight against demonic influence.
@@lorimiller4301has nothing to do with a demon. Abused people will often repeat their abuses. The fact some still maintain their sanity and don't doesn't mean the others have demons.
@@angelgirldebbiejo Don't rule out demonic influence. It never occurred to me that demons may play a part but they are very real and this fits their M.O.
How on earth did they not investigate an 11 year old giving birth in 1999?! That is so fucking sad and I feel for the poor mom. They failed her AND her kids. 🥺
Feel for the people who most likely will be victims to this boys next violent crime. He only served 7 years in Juvenile Detention, and was free at 19 years old. Do you think he's fully rehabilitated? His Mother was only given probation. I wonder how many more children she gave birth to? Am I the only one these light sentences bothers?
@@EARTHTOMICH8LLE🐂💩. I've been a cognitive behavioral therapist for 30 years. Most of the adults I deal with don't care about themselves or the damage they do. Blanket statements like yours are arbitrary and capricious.
@@EARTHTOMICH8LLE "The system" is full of people that care and also people that don't care enough. And there is a scale - it's easy to start out caring and then get jaded and overwhelmed and start to disassociate over time. It's not a matter of everyone being evil and not caring. It's more complicated than that.
Im so moved by the empathy and compassion being shown for ALL of the victims in this case❤ Ive seen so many hateful people online lately. You guys have given me some hope for humanity.
The mother should have been charged with murder instead of her son because she could have taken him to the hospital when it happened and although Christian intentionally hurt his brother he didn't mean to cause him to die
@@Katykat2024you’d be surprised how many parents/families don’t bother to go to the hospital especially people in lower class. Hospitals are so expensive in many countries.I’m not justifying the mother’s irresponsibility, but it’s the reality to many people financially unfortunate. Unless they see your skull open or leg cut off, you’ll never see them near any hospital.
The fact that she was raped and had a child at age 11 is horrific. The fact that she was not protected as a child by a drug addicted mother, (who probably sold her to pedos for drugs) or authorities nor the hospital staff is why she NEVER knew*how* to grow up. The system is broken and failed every child here... yet again. This will continue to constantly happen until we start holding all involved, parents and government agency people responsible. Children having children will NEVER change until lawmakers pass bills in *EVERY* state across the board. *SMFH*
Yes and no. She was able to look up online and as she said she was afraid they take her kids away MORE THAN SAVING her kids. She should have send her son to psych therapy. And where was she all night away, never home
@@GD-xc4wgI get what you're trying to say but at the same time, not everyone thinks logically. In her mind she probably never even thought death was a possibility for her son. Yes its wrong and I'm not excusing that but she obviously can't think like a rational adult
Seems like DFCS could have stopped this. 11yrs old having a baby, 5 years of abuse. Father committing suicide in front of them.... Jesus The system failed once again
Why do people constantly depend on the “system”? Take responsibility and stop making excuses. This lady had every chance to change from what she was and make a better life for her kids.
@@noneyabidness196 You're disgusting. A child was raped and forced to raise a baby when she was just a baby herself, her mom was a strung-out lost cause, and absolutely no one stepped in to help her. She was BARELY an adult when this happened, and had lived through hell with a violent man who traumatized her and all of her children. Of course she should have taken her baby to the hospital when she found him, of course she made SO many mistakes that she's going to live with for the rest of her life, but you making it seem like her brain wasn't entirely WARPED since she was a child herself is just deranged. We have systems in place to help victims, and every single one of them fails so many people on a daily basis. None of the people in this video stood a chance. And here you are, showing your whole ass to the internet because empathy is a hard thing for losers like you to grasp.
@@noneyabidness196 normally I'd agree with you, however in this case it's a tough call. She was only 11 when she had Christian and never got the chance to mature properly into an adult. Substance abuse and likely sexual abuse at such a young age stunts your ability to mature. It seemed like she barely knew how to take care of herself much less 4 kids. She had no business having children at all. That's when the system 100% needs to step in and remove those children from her care and force her into some kind of supervised living situation as well. Some people don't have the proper life skills to take care of themselves or others and are better off being removed from society.
@@noneyabidness196 she wasn't a lady she was a child herself - how do you know what chances she had? - looks to me like she had none - easy to be judgemental when you haven't been through what she went through
He was abusing his little brother and the mom still left him alone with him. The hospital saw the injury and allowed her to take him home, failure all around.
Shame on EWU for exploiting the tragedy of this family? Send the profits of this video to show them not everyone is disconnected from generational abuse and neglect. 💕
The way Cristian said "David is a/the pushover" is so telling- he has been his stepdad's punching bag for so long, he acted out to make someone else the victim so he could feel big for once in his life. None of them ever had a chance. This is truly sad all around.
@@GoatLordOfEvil can a 11 years old makes her choice to get pregnant? Or even better, makes her choice to live with substance abuse mother and mental unwell husband?
@@GoatLordOfEvil these people don't get a choice of what family to be born into,they made their choice to beat up their little brother but they made that choice because they got randomly born into a family that was fucked to begin with,one man who got an 11 yr old pregnant caused all this
The older son has never ever had a chance since he was born. Born to a child mother, placed in foster care where he was abused twice, then endured years of violent physical abuse from his stepdad who ended his life in front of the children. Then made to be a responsible father figure to his baby brother. His role modelling had been one of violence and neglect. Then sent to an adult prison to be abused and violated again. I am sure he blamed himself for his step father’s suicide (because it was over his facial injuries) and also for his brother’s death. All of the children never stood a chance to thrive in life because of generational neglect and abuse. I hope they all (mother included) can get help to make a better ending to their life stories. This one is heartbreaking.
Perfectly said. They were all failed by a faulty system that didn't protect them from their domestic abusers. I hope they all are able to heal from the generational trauma one day 😢.
It is not true - this justification is repulsive. Many suffered terrible abuse but somehow we chose not to murder siblings, kids or adults later in life. Further more we chose not to abuse others in life eventhough we know how to do it.
@@user-zy8gk2nn7d do you know children of abuse of very likely to abuse children? They're so likely that often they can't work in childcare, adopt or foster unless married to people this didn't happen to. The same goes for children raised in foster care, children that became parents as children, children that went through the criminal justice system. There's a reason for this.
@@tuxhabib I think he knows what he did but honestly couldn't control it. I wrote in another comment that he is absolutely self aware but in a way like being paralyzed in your body. You know things are happening but I feel like he has so little control over it. Which is not to say he isn't culpable. But I don't think "aware" means "intentionally did it with full knowledge of the consequences"
This is the most I've choked up and cried over a video on this channel.. I'm relieved to see the comment section is full of everything I could say about this.. Absolutely tragic.. and that's just putting it simply.. nothing is simple about this.
I was raised in an extremely violent household and it took me YEARS to get control of my negative impulses. I feel terrible for children this happens to.
@@RobbieAmerican Everyone’s outcome is not the same - however it is far more likely for children to emulate their parents, particularly when there are younger siblings in the house.
@@RobbieAmerican probably not a good idea to confine the world and everyone elses experiences in it to only your experience, perspective, or point of view. the world is not you. you are you. everyone handles things differently. you are literally proving that by even leaving your comment. you might want to be talking to your therapist about whatever ego complex you have though. nobody likes a narcissist, no matter how 'vulnerable' they seemingly are.
So an eleven year old girl is raped, gives birth, her addict mother neglects her and the baby, the rapist is never found or charged, and the victim is forced to grow up with no safety net, gets into a (most likely) abusive relationship, still at a very young age, has three more children, all of whom suffer physical and emotional abuse, the abusive father kills himself in front of his three young children, and the oldest kid, who has already suffered abuse and neglect at the hands of every adult in his life, lashes out in anger against his little brother-- and the one who the hammer comes down hardest on is the 12-year-old abuse victim. How that child was indicted on 1st degree murder is beyond me. Him and all his siblings should have been taken by social services and the mother should have gotten psychiatric help. Crazy how it's only when a little kid so damaged by abuse he can't control himself lashes out, the police get involved. Where were they when the abuse was happening, to any of them? Edit: to be clear, I’m not saying there should have been no consequences. I’m saying it’s a gross miscarriage of justice that something wasn’t done sooner to prevent the situation from escalating to this point, and that initially the kid was charged with first degree murder when he simply didn’t commit first degree murder.
What a tragic story. Pregnant at 11, the boy beaten for 5 years, the children witnessing the "dad" commiting suicide, then the 12 year old being charged as an adult for murder of his brother... I hope they're all living better lives now...
@noriwilliams4637 if you finish the video you'll see he now works at a barber shop. Hopefully he makes it through the trauma and has gotten therapy😢 I wish I knew what was going on with his mom as well
This lady cop was so awesome with Christian, she used the doll properly and I particularly liked how she stroked and held the doll in front of Christian while they were talking so it seemed like the doll was more human to the boy! Good training, she was gentle and kind but firm in the sense of getting to the truth by saying kind things but letting the boy know she knew he was lying and she kept rephrasing until he told the truth! She was good with Bianella too, firm but still kind. Well lady! Those poor kids having such a tragic upbringing and a violent father who then in a last act traumatised them all with his suicide infront of the kids. It’s no wonder with a mother with no real clue of the reality of what a mother truly is and does but expects a twelve year old child with violent tendencies and an abused past look after the kids a lot by the looks of it! Christian needed help and yet his mother made him the responsible make after her fella died, that’s a lot for a young boy struggling himself! Tragic video and could have been prevented!
Absolutely horrific. Cristian’s father was 25 at the time of his birth and was only given 10 years probation for sexually assaulting Biannela!?!?! Cannot wrap my head around this.
@@HaiGudetama It’s rape if she was 11! So yes, the one who impregnated her can take some blame. He should be arrested. Probably a boyfriend of her mother’s.
@@Dustandfuzz Tf I'm talking about Christen, it's the dads fault that he damaged Christen like this, so he took notes and did it to his brother... 🤦♀️
This is a mother that stood no chance. She was a child when she gave birth, she was allowed to raise the child when her own mother was incapable of guiding her through such a thing. She’s obviously been through so much trauma in her life her perspective is skewed, how could it not be. She should never have been left at 11 to raise a child, someone should have been jailed and she should have been protected. It’s just an awful situation all round.
This is 100% a case where the USA failed its children. She never should have been allowed to birth that child, which would have prevented him from being abused by his grandmother and others in the system. She should have been taken away from her mother and put in a loving foster home, but instead everyone in this story suffered unimaginable horrors. Those poor children witnessed their father unalive himself, and she had three children with him, in quick succession, around the age of 19. None of them stood a chance.
+Had a baby at 11(!). +Suffered from substance abuse and neglect ,which she also inflicted on her baby( continuing the cycle of abuse). +Finally taken away from her birth family at 15(!). +Gets married at 18. I just hope he was similarly young. +4 kids by 21st birthday. +Husband DIES, but was abusive ( because of course he was) +Finds out oldest son has anger issues like the stepfather. She never had a chance. It's not an excuse for her neglect, just super sad.
It's easy to judge but I don't think people can relate with the bond she had for that maniacal 12 year old , that she had mothered since she was only 11. Sad all around.
Yeah sad and she was abusive too and her husband was to her who probably had went through abuse himself and a lot of bad stuff. Cycle of abuse like it usually goes..
*_The thing that really bothers me is the fact that she had an unconscious,seriously hurt child but behaved like it was like any other ORDINARY day, loading David togheter with the other kids taking them to school and so on. THAT bothers me. You do not need an education, good childhood, or being happily married to TAKE YOUR UNCONSCIOUS, BLEEDING 2 YEAR OLD TO THE HOSPITAL. It bothers me a lot. Something is more seriously wrong with her under the surface. And it isn't pretty. But she plays her role quite well. The majority of people view her as 100% being a victim due to her upbringing. She scares me._*
the detective in this was amazing. perfectly navigated the child while holding firm when he was dishonest, and then perfectly calculated and scolding with his neglectful mother. she put everything together and tied it with a bow for prosecutors
This can be boiled down to generational neglect - she was never in a good home, severely neglected, had children extremely young and probably didn’t even go to school long. She probably literally never knew what she should be doing, and as a result her children don’t know anything but what they are growing up in. Not an excuse, but it is easy to see why she lies like this and how it happened.
@@clintonleonard5187especially when her ex was abusive POS teaching her oldest that it was okay. This is horrible all the way around, there needs to be more support for people like this
It is refreshing to see people who understand psychology and trauma enough to know that reasons why things happen are not excusing those things. It's an important discussion and distinction that many won't allow their brains to wrap around.
@@Kim-CvsWarriors Actually, it has a lot to do with birth control. Women are regularly experiencing many types of hardships, standard (like not being able to afford pills) or extreme (like needing a hysterectomy and not being able to get one) when it comes to taking control over their reproductive health. All women struggle with this, and poor, disenfranchised women struggle the most. Luckily, there's a new kind of OTC birth control, and it's not terribly expensive. Many women report the easy access to care is incredibly helpful. (I'm unsurprised at the ocean of pick-mes and their billions of unplanned children trying to put down easy access to reproductive care. Way to go, girls!)
Sadly, this kid was demented from the beginning, most likely he is sicker than ever now in the head and I’m sure he will end up back in prison for doing it again
Agreed. The way he acted so innocent and babyish when being questioned & then joyfully punching his own hands, "Bam! Bam!" and recreating the murder of a BABY, when he was left alone, told me everything, I need to know. Many people have very hard lives but don't repeatedly abuse then kill a baby then act like that afterwards. Not an poor kid. A demented killer.
He suffered a lot of trauma at a young age and was probably suffering from conduct disorder as a result. He was not “demented” from the beginning, he was abused and neglected. If he received therapy there is a chance he will live a relatively normal life.
He clearly doesn't understand the gravity of his actions, he was 12yrs old interrogated alone for hours, tell me how many adults you know that could withstand that? If all he knew was violence it's a normal reaction to not express remorse when you've never been taught or shown any. It's sad all around he will always carry the guilt of knowing he killed his own brother, that in itself is a death sentence.
@@krisdiane he was a victim of sexual and physical abuse, and his stepdad killed himself in front of his siblings. He's not some kind of monster, he just doesn't know anything other than violence.
@@tallky that's literally how monsters are made though. Most serial killers started as victims. I'm not saying that I don't have sympathy for him, but I highly doubt a juvenile detention center taught him empathy. Honestly, there's probably no hope of that once a child reaches adolescence and has already worked his way up to brutalizing humans. Maybe with intense therapy. But jail of any kind only makes you harder. Sad as it is, a monster is what was made.
@@krisdiane "What is better? To be born good or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?" Keep in mind that Frankenstein may have created the monster, but the monster never wanted to be one until everyone keep treating him as such. This kid never had a chance and still you don't want to give him one. Hes in his mid 20s now and hes a barber hes part of society. Give bro a chance. I mean, I get it. His brother will never get a chance. But he was 12 with serious abuse and no one but an abused mom to guide him who was so young herself. Its not like he can take it back.
@@mylaclay5532 It should. Recognize human ego's are the cause of all problems. Accepting and moving of is essential for growth. @thewhitelodgery is absolutely right, it happens every day, the reality of the world we (humans) struggle to accept truth. The truth hurts, move on.
Yeah and this video insinuating that the mother is disgusting when she was doing the best she thought she could. The AUTHORITIES are the disgusting ones that failed so many.
It makes me uneasy watching this woman who probably has a husband and is financially stable talk to this mom who was failed over and over and over by everyone possible. I just feel like she looks down on that poor mom who is probably scared.
Please, a 12 year old little traumatized bully doesn't imagine a kid will die from 2 blows. He just wanted to feel big & beat up the kid of the grown man who did horrid shit to him (wrong but common as hell). I hope they gave him a good therapist and didn't just pump him full of drugs in juvie. Being charged as an adult for that was wild. & Letting an 11 year old little girl "mother" her child was insane, who knows how little she was when the raped started. You already know she got pregnant once she got her very first period smh
so let me get this straight. The mother was raped at 11 and forced to have a kid. And kept with her drug addicted mother at the time to the point of being severely neglected. Till she was 18 and married an abusive person. Had 3 kids with him. Only for him to abuse all 4 of those kids for basically the entire time he was there. Till the point he killed himself LITERALLY IN FRONT OF THEM. Driving the 12 year old to the point basically to insanity from abuse and neglect. Leading him to kill his younger brother in a fit of rage. Dear god... this family had ZERO chance of surviving...
Passing the blame. Classic. It's sad her Family and race failed her. Their countries don't suck by accident, it's overloaded with this kind of stuff. Actions > consequences.
@floridaman5125 did they ever mentioned anything about their immigration status or are you one of those unintelligent people who assume every Hispanic person wasn’t born here and is undocumented…???
Yes you're absolutely correct. But believe or not there are people in this world who think people who end up in these types of horrific situations end up there solely because of their own personal decisions. Imagine being that selfish, privileged and out of touch with reality.. sad.
For real. As soon as Christian started crying in the corner, felt my throat start tightening up and my eyes started watering. The whole story is just awful.
@BrickCityBella Oh yeah the level of ignorance I have seen in this comment section is so depressing. Zero understanding of circumstances. Zero understanding of trauma and its long term effects. And even far too many people supporting p does. Complete denial of science and research all around. They blame the 11 year old mother who lived in poverty and was abused and used by adults her whole life for not being able to get out of her situation like ??? With what resources? She is so severely developmentally delayed and psychologically altered due to her trauma, she has never had agency in her whole life due to the adults who were abusing her and she had zero resources or support. You don't magically wake up one day and think "I will no longer be traumatized". It takes work and professional help. Professional help that is abysmal in the country this case took place in while also being extremely difficult to access. And then the 12 year old kid was chronically abused by the only man in his life, had to witness his death and is also very clearly developmentally delayed. He has no support and doesn't know how to express what he has experienced, so it comes out as violence that is simply a mimicry of what his monster of a stepfather did to him. His comments about how his brother was weak for not being able to take 2 punches are so painfully obviously him parroting something someone said while hurting him. Just like his "mother" (she was a CHILD) he had zero resources, connections or support. Zero means to get out of his situation. And now a 2 year old is gone forever because of it. None of these kids should have been in that home. And yes I am counting the mother even if she was 23 when this took place because her physical, hormonal and psychological childhood traumas would have completely prevented her from having a normal puberty and would have delayed her cognitive growth and she is very likely still mentally a child.
@IceFireofVoid Exactly my point. Thank you. Some people are so ignorant to blame the individuals involved in this case. How some people can be so self centered and out of touch with reality is mind blowing.
Omg. Pregnant at 11 yrs old? She’s a victim of sexual abuse and Christian was too. This story is sooo sad. She was never taught how to care and love another properly because she never was.
@@bruh-wu8iq i mean we don’t know that. and based on this situation, not directly, but he was indirectly made a victim of sexual abuse by being born from it
@bruh-wu8iq Actually he was a victim if you were paying attention to the information provided, it stated how he was allegedly assualted by 2 boys in foster care and his step father had caused injuries to him he is a victim
The kid is 100% evil.. idgaf what happened to him... u know right from wrong...lit met tons of pol who have had terrible things happen to them and they don't do this sht
@@willthomas7666same! I hear a lot of people that want to blame the person’s past for their future crimes and behaviors, but that’s not how it works. A person can choose to be who they want to be. They can choose to be a good person or they can choose to be an evil person. What they go through in their past lives should make them want to treat others differently than how they were treated. That’s no excuse for them to get out here and murder someone or something awful like that. Granted that some people do need psychiatric help to get through their trauma, but most people deal with it in their own way. My heart goes out to this baby who lost his life. It’s sad that he only saw 2 years of his life. But he’s with Jesus now and wouldn’t wanna be back here for nothing.
@@debrajones4010 You're a product of your environment and the kid has only known abuse for most of his life. His mother was 12 when she had him, and didn't have a support system around her to help. When the mother finally found some help that man was abusive to him as well. Not only that he killed himself in front of the children. I don't condone what he did, but He was only 12 years old. Kids that age even when they know things are wrong don't fully understand the consequences of their actions. He got away with torturing that little boy one too many times. He should never have been left alone with him again after he broke his leg "doing yoga".
his mother was a child having a child. that's awesome ! project 2025 is in full support !!! wtf I'm actually disgusted ,! that's what project 2025 is though.
Wrong. That’s not how that works. I have intense childhood trauma, my brain is fine. It has nothing to do with that. What happens, is your brain activates your GABA system, instead of glutamate, meaning you son’s form memories. There’s stress induced glutamate excitotoxicity where memory is all sorts of screwed up. You can have intense memories stored, in high detail, or you could have literally nothing there. Trauma affects the chemicals of the brain but it doesn’t make your brain “stop growing”. That just doesn’t happen or make sense.
@@Riceenjoyer2001but did most of them saw their parent kill themselves in front of them???? to witness such horrific trauma at such a young age ontop of being abused, it is not surprising to become what Christian had become.
What an all around horrific situation. The mother pregnant at 11, Christian abused by his stepfather, and poor little David abused by his brother and his injuries hidden by a woman who was so frightened of the thought of losing her children she lost them all anyway. This is what generational neglect and abuse looks like. It's so incredibly sad. Watching Christian in this video, it really hits home when you take a moment to remember, his mother was one year younger than he was in this video when she gave birth to him.
GTFO the kids an evil p.o.s... she lit lied about everthing, was at the house when it happened... and then waited 2 days to take a kid thats unconscious to the hospital? GTFO.. 99.999999% chance she was in on it,.or 100% knew exactly what happened, and was just scared to deal with the counseces... that's why she lied and told her kid to lie
Every detail of their story is so sad. Having a child at 11? I can't imagine what kind of generational trauma their family has. Those poor children seeing their stepdad kill himself... the trauma must be immense.
Early? She was 11! Consenting age for sex is 16! That fact aside, she didn't have support. Her mother was in active addiction & EVERYONE who had a duty to her & her baby FAILED miserably. @StefanReich
Hush. Pregnancy and childbirth itself is hard on an adult. NO child should be bringing a life into the world. An 11 year old child should be playing with Barbies and allowed the chance to develop and understand the world. The support should come from the adults in their lives allowing then a safe space, not raising a child. Are you slow? @@StefanReich
Christian's behavior made sense. His step-dad was violent to him, drugs around, a neglecting mother doing jail time of and on. That's all he knew. Not a proper education made him slower than other 12 year olds. The mother should not have custody of any of her children.
that kid is a whole CHILD and he was neglected by his mother. how dare you blame him for being treated terribly. he and his brother didn’t need to be raised by that mother.
@@samanthadowling5562 and the mother didn't deserve to be knocked up at 11 (probably r-worded given her age) with no support from her drug addict egg donor either. You either didn't pay attention to the whole video or have selective memory considering the fact that you fail to realize that this was a vicious cycle. The mother is by no means innocent but she's also a huge victim in her own right given how badly the system failed her. If she had gotten help when she herself was just a child, none of this would have happened.
@@samanthadowling5562they didn't blame him? They said he's messed up which he very OBVIOUSLY is. Nobody is taking away from the fact its sad and he too was a victim. In fact, it's his victimization that messed him up.
I don't think any 12 year old would fully be able to understand their rights, no matter how well they are explained. Edit: Understanding the words of what your rights are vs. fully comprehending what your rights mean and the life consequences of speaking without an attorney present are different things. When I was 12, I definitely would have understood the words they were saying, but I would absolutely would not have grasped the extent of the situation.
Fact. There should be an adult present to represent the child. Funny how, in America, we like protect children when it’s convenient but throw that idea away whenever these horrible situations happen.
definitely not the legal part of it, hes 12 years old but he still killed his baby brother and he would have done much worse later in life, that kid never stood a chance
The mum was a kid herself when she got him. About him.. kids dont always tell the truth. But.. Kids should never face police like this alone. I know its done all the time. What a society we have...
Neglected by an alcoholic mother, abused and pregnant at 11, widowed at 20's, abusive new husband who took his own life in front of the kids, and then this... everyone was living hell on earth, it's so sad for all of them.
Gosh I was pregnant at 15, married at 16, divorced married again widowed abused all this stuff too it's really sad when you see these awfully tragic stories and are like oh wait mines got a lot of similarities. It's like going into an NA meeting and telling your story and people saying you helped them because they realized their life really isn't that bad yet lol
The woman was 11 yrs old when pregnant. This didn't throw red flags to ANYbody? All this could have been avoided if "authorities" were there to protect HER! She needed the resources of the state, THEN!! What the state has done/not done with CHILD WELFARE is SICK! THE STATE IS TO BLAME HERE!!
Have you not seen the news... This here's peddo country now. Makes me sick that there are people trying to make it legal who can show their face publicly.
I agree. No support ever seems to have been provided for mum or family, just judgement, blame and surveillance. She should have had therapeutic support, she may possibly have had some parenting support and training whilst in the system. The kids should have had extensive support and therapy after the violent ex. There is no evidence she harmed the kids bar leaving a volatile 12 yr old watching them while she ran an errand. Arguably if she was aware he had harmed the younger kid previously she should never have left them alone without any adult supervision, but she was under a lot of pressure as a single parent. A lot is made of how long she delayed, as if she callously scrolled online, but I think she was terrified. Terrified of a system that can only judge and punish and of having all her kids taken and family split up. She wouldn’t have thought support or sympathy was even an option once she was ‘on the books’. The whole system, internationally, takes a punitive and suspicious stance towards parents and makes it clear they don’t provide support for parents, only judgement of their fitness to parent. This prevents families reaching out, and delays intervention until it becomes a crisis. Compare to middle class families where if your kid acts out you are the first to bleat to the school and request therapy / diagnosis. I think if I was in her shoes I would have taken the kid immediately to hospital, but I kind of understand why she was scared to as it would guarantee bringing the state down on the lot of them.
this is the first story on this channel where pretty much everyone was failed at every single level imaginable. a baby at 11 only to be put into foster care with said baby, and then married to a child abuser who ends his life in front of the kids he had with you to avoid consequences for abusing your child. the amount of unchecked aggression and lack of development for both mom and her son, and then to charge that child as an adult? absolutely gut wrenching. i am thankful for his second chance.
@xioshen2058there is no justice in this story. For the mother, for David, for christian. It’s just terrible all around. They were failed at every possible point by society and everyone around them.
GENERATIONAL ABUSE DESTROYS - no one stood a chance here, the system failed to protect an 11 year old girl, or her eldest son, and it failed poor little David too. It's easy to punish after the fact, how sad no one put effort into their early years.
She was a mother of 4!! Which means she had more kids in her teens and had substance abuse issues. Who doesn't come in and protect her after 11 years when she got impregnated and allowed her to continue having and keeping more kids as a poor, drug addicted, uneducated single person.
So many people commenting on this video didn't watch the last minute of it. Christian's charge was changed to aggravated battery and he ended up staying 7 years at a Juvenile Detention Facility instead and was released when he was 19. He was NOT charged with first degree murder and did NOT get life in prison.
OMGGG. Thank you for this comment! I got too emotional to watch till the end and I'm so happy to hear that he's out now. Hope live is treating him well and that he becomes the best version of himself and not defined by his past. And above all he finds love...genuine, pure, and familiar.
Just speechless. A pregnancy at 11 ... a 12 year old in (jail) prison? How does one build a life with a missing foundation and any kind of normalcy? This is insane.
He's the one I feel sorry for the most. He suffered so much at the hands of his own brother and his mother did nothing to protect him. So incredibly sad.
Sadly, my cousin went through something similar. Her father killed himself in front of her and my other cousins. It came out that she was sexually abused by him, and it was most likely the thing he didn't want to come out since he was well liked by his community. I feel so bad for those kids. I can only imagine what they went through.
@@kaylieesquivel4574 your cousin has had a traumatic life. By extension, so have you. Witnessing abuse as a child can be just as damaging as experiencing it firsthand, and kids tend to fill in the details that adults keep from them with their imaginations. It’s all harmful for a developing brain. You are both survivors of their nightmare. Sending Prayers and wishes for continued healing to you and your family.
I can’t believe i cried for strangers but this story is so heart wrenching. From the mom who was raised by an alcoholic mother then being raped and pregnant at 11 y.o to the 12 y.o being abused by his stepfather to the kids having to witness a horrific scene at their young ages and finally to the boy doing what he did to his own little brother. I feel so sorry for all the kids i wish i could hug them all and fix their traumas one by one
i hear things worse than this in my line of work and dont get emotional, but im only listening for a few minutes. hearing all the sad details and all the trauma everyone in this case suffered made me shed some tears too.
I'm just glad that the kid isn't in prison until he is 80. I mean, he seemed the product of abuse, but young enough to potentially reform and not a psychopath or anything like that per se. It seemed a disservice to end the video with an ominous tone about him being a barber. It seems more sensationalist rather than being any sort of sober meditation on the likelihood of recidivism in this particular case.
The state cares more about closing cases than any real adherence to due process. That is more clearly egregious in some cases than others, but there is a CLEAR need for reform, concerning the interrogation of minors. None of them are criminal masterminds. The cases could be closed while using ethical tactics. Most of the public seems too hungry for retribution to care.
This is disgustingly sad. The mother is probably still trapped in an 10 year olds body/mind due to all the abuse and rape she endured up to and beyond that age.
Or at least part of her is stuck in that mode and the rest developed abnormally. Probably has some sort of serious personality disorder as a result too. I'm guessing NPD based on behavior.
@anuket1069 I agree. I don't feel like I would consider what happened negligence. I consider it almost a crime of ignorance and fear. She really thought that her kid would wake up on his own, especially when you consider she wasn't fully aware of what actually happened, and she was afraid to seek help because she was afraid her other kids would get taken away.
No, abuse and rape are not excuses for this shit. Plenty of people are abused and raped and turn out to raise children just fine. It’s a choice to continue the cycle of abuse. I’m so sick of people trying to use trauma to by themselves out of being a good person. I was raped and held at knifepoint by a family member when I was younger, and I raise my children just fine. Absolutely ridiculous that everybody in this comment section thinks that being traumatized is somehow a “get out of jail free” card for personal responsibility. She clearly knows that things in her house are wrong, but is more concerned with herself. That is a choice. She is a mother.
@@chuly4541idk this circumstance seems a bit shaky.. as a kid who grows up in those types of environments they don’t think certain things are wrong or not ok until someone tells them.. so , how could you want help if you don’t know you need it?
I started to ask which one but I realize you’re talking about poor little David. But unfortunately, at one time, Binanella and Christian were also abused babies. I still think they deserved their punishment though.
@@ManagingMyLife82 Why do you think Christian deserved to sit in prison for 7 years? He was neglegted by his mom, who was neglegted by her own mom, and then physically abused by his step dad. In the interview it was clear he had the mind of a 7 to 8 years old. He never got the chance to experience normal human behavior interactions. How does he deserve emprisonment as punishment over therapy and finally getting a life worth living? That's fucked up!
@@TheStar798most likely with two punches based on his statement and motions. This is probably exactly what happened when he had to get surgery from the abuse before the step dad killed himself.
We live in a country where a pregnant 11 year old is put into the same orphan system when 15 as they’re four year old child, where said child is abused on multiple occasions. We need better social services and im tired of my tax money going to corporate bailouts and corrupt politicians
this!!🙌 in most cases I've seen I could not care less for the parents; they're to blame for the child's behaviour. But 11 years old is not a "parent"; That is a child themselves. This poor woman had her childhood taken away from her.
@@emily-8252 If his brother was that bad off, they needed to know what happened as soon as possible to help him. I know the kid is exhausted but if the doctors know what happened, they can better treat his brother.
@@mercuryfever392 That's not an effective way to get the truth from a child. Hell, half the time it's not an effective way to get the truth from an adult. Do you really think all of those injuries were caused by two head pushes into a shelf? That traumatized baby coped by traumatizing another baby and they punished him for it as if he was a healthy, competent adult. I'm never gonna understand how that's justice.
I believe that when Christian said, “David is the pushover,” and then “pow pow,” he wanted David to feel like he did when his stepfather was beating him. He felt like the pushover and weak when his stepfather was beating him. To stop feeling like the pushover, he had to be the one doing the pushing, and it made him feel strong when he did it. I don't think he is a bad person. He needed therapy, and unfortunately, he didn't get that. He was tasked with caring for his siblings while his mom wasn't home instead of getting the help he needed. But he knew what he was doing when he was hurting David (I don't think he knew he would kill him), but he knew what he was doing was wrong and deserved his sentence. All the children, including the mom, need to be in therapy.
not everyone who does something bad is a sociopath omfg. he doesn't even speak like someone who's a sociopath and he was literally crying over what he did. please get real.
@marydavis3565 if he was a sociopath, he would have had a psych-evaluation while in prison and it would have been mentioned in the video. These guys do a really great job at guving us all the facts in their videos. You can't just psychoanalyse someone from a 40 minute video. That's not how it works. Also, sociopaths don't cry for their victims.
@@marydavis3565 He is indeed similar to a sociopath and a 'bad' kid simultaneously. The madness derived from the qualifications indeed does exhibit justification, you are accurate according to my perspective.
She's forced into motherhood at 11 years old. Why wouldn't she think leaving a 12 yr old in charge of children would be ok? This entire situation is a result of the complete failure to protect the mother when she was a child. There's no way of knowing if David would have survived even if he had immediate care.
Well at his age she already had a kid. I was left alone at home at age 10 with my 7 yo brother because our father was at work and mom wasn't around. I'm 26 now. I'm alive and well. This is not something that occurs
Probably because she was forced into adulthood as a child and no one rescued her. Victims often repeat the loop of abuse. She needed support and so did her children.
of course she didn't see a problem with leaving the kids alone with a 12 year old to supervise them. she was already a mother by that age.
I was babysitting when I was 12 years old. I wasn’t already a mother though. This whole story is sick, including that the mother only got 2 years 4 months in jail. She could have saved David’s life but chose not to.
No kidding
@@bonjovirocks24I was also babysitting at that age, even younger and when I think about it now that’s so insane
my brother was in charge of us when he was 12. those were just when my parents went on dates. we also has a bunch of babysitters. but the word was very different in the 80's and 90's.
You never had responsibilities of such a magnitude when you were ≤12?
Not a single person in this story stood a chance. The mom, as flawed as she is, was neglected by an alcoholic mother, and pregnant by 11. This whole situation is absolutely tragic.
Agreed. This whole story made me wanna sob & barf.
I'm amazed America takes away abortion but doesn't offer parenting classes or homes with electricity for widows who are only 11yrs older than their own son...💔💔💔💔
@@AmberAmber At the time she was pregnant, abortion was totally available everywhere in the USA. And the money needed for parenting classes, is needed for illegal migrants, and for wars and Planned parenthood.
In the end the main failure came from DCF for not taking Bianella away from her mother, and also for not taking her kids away from her. She left her young children alone at home, inexcusable, and also married and had children with a very violent man.
No Abortions (murder of babies) or parenting classes, or electricity for widows, would have stopped this from happening. And what makes you think they did not have electricity anyway. She was on a laptop, mobile phone, and also the TV. She had a car, and probably received benefits, including the home they were in.
Just terrible parenting all round.
Sad situation, but not the first and will not be the last.
This is so sad God Bless this child 😢 He never had a chance.
And his baby brother too🙏
And the alcoholic mother was probably a product of abuse and neglect and so on and so on
@AmberAmber they have money for war but can't feed the poor...
She had the kid at 11 YEARS OLD. How the hell did DCF leave her with her drug addicted mother????? Did they not investigate who the F got the 11 year old PREGNANT???
In the 90s? Unlikely. Even then, no cell phone or digital footprint, easy to lie back then
They literally do not care
They take kids from healthy homes all the time for bs reasons
And yet never act when its to actually protect children
I am disabled
I walk on crutches and have since I was a child so that means I almost always had bruises etc from falling because of slippery floors or just tripping while playing etc
My aunt one time got into an argument with my mom over some stupid reason and she was a nurse so she used her connections to report my mom for child abuse and dcfs believed her over my mom because she was a nurse
The only reason i didn't get taken away was because one, we moved so they stopped pursuit (shows how useful they actually are when we literally just moved a county or two away and they decided that was too much to pursue the safety of the child they were supposedly so concerned over!!), two my uncle who was a reputable fire fighter and my grandpa who was a veteran and well known in the community and by local gov stepped up to fight for us against her claims and explained she wasn't just reporting a patient as was her duty but rather a family member who she disliked and had lied about that "so why wouldn't she lie about everything else".
But dcfs would have GLADLY taken me away from a mom who loved me JUST because a nurse said she was abusing me without an ACTUAL investigation into the matter because "a nurse would never lie", like that SOMEHOW makes the automatically good people with no ulterior motives!
My aunt conveniently left out she knew my mom and had bad blood with her and wasn't reporting a patient as she was required to do like she led them to believe in her initial report, she just made it seem like it was a patient who brought their kid in and she saw the bruises etc.
Dcfs are DUMB AF and do more harm than good, and I will NEVER change my mind about that.
The person who got her pregnant at 11 was a 20 year old who is now in prison
This investigator is doing a great job!
That’s funny that you think DCFS/DCF/CPS actually gives af 😂
"An even more disturbing turn.."
" and then another disturbing turn"
"then this case took ANOTHER disturbing turn....again"
Lol right, get on with it already
noo it’s just one of the saddest cases of the system failing & continuing to FAIL US AS A PEOPLE
Ain’t that annoying
Poverty is a curse
yeah they keep padding out the story... I hate it :)
The ex husband killed himself in front of their kids?? This entire story is so depressing, these kids never had a chance…
Indeed, seriously fucked up
i don't feel like i have a right to complain about anything after this
Seriously heart wrenching.
What happened to the other 2 kids? Surely they were taken away by DCF.
My life is pretty hard but when I hear about these types of situations, I cannot even imagine. In Hindusim, they make sense of this kind of suffering by believing that it is karma = something you have to go through to keep reaching other levels.. Due to past actions from previous lives. I guess these beliefs make people feel better in some way
So the mother was raped as an 11 year old and left with an addict mother and NOW they are shocked she isn't coping on her own? Everything about this is wrong and could have been avoided if the 11year old little girl was protected in the first place.
@CocoGames_0 we're in the US and have things set up for this.
@CocoGames_0
You're one of those annoying people who plays devil's advocate no matter what the perfectly-reasonable statement is. Just stop.
You think you're so smart. But you're just annoying, like a little gnat buzzing around.
Seems Republicans are OK with this these days.
@@ferox965 This has nothing to do with Republicans …
Just look at the amount of people that are entering The US funds and funds are being transferred to other departments.
Do you how many children are missing in America? Plus, those of the new arrivals.
In Europe, what this detective is doing is illegal?
You are not allowed to question a child without appropriate adult. Especially, if you don’t have psychological help, The children still spoke the truth.
This is the future Republicans want.
This is a perfect example of “the vicious cycle”. Mom is on drugs, daughter gets pregnant at 11, her son kills someone.
Exactly what I was going to post. I despise all of the adults that started and perpetuated this family's trauma
you spelled "daughter gets raped and impregnated at 11" wrong
It's the Mexican way 😂
@@PatrickArcatomost comments you leave here are borderline racist and the funny thing is that you look mixed yourself! 😂😂😂
@PatrickArcato the nationality has nothing to do with it. It happens across all nations.
It’s so great to actually see a comment section smart enough to realize these were all victims
yeah very smart seen how people always blames others for their fails, yeah I am loser because of the system. Life is a series of choices nothing else and she made hers, left her son died
@ yes but sometimes u r put in situations that shape other things in ur life and u wouldn’t make certain decisions if these things didn’t happen
@@GamerX-qn7ou bro she had a baby at all of 11 years old, her life was fucked without her control real early on. You dingus.
@@GamerX-qn7ou she was raped by a 20 year old and gave birth at 11 years old. Her mother was a drug addict who neglected her. She was likely abused by her ex husband. While an explanation is not an excuse, there is no denying that she was dealt a shit hand and was likely developmentally stunted from the trauma. Someone can be a really fucked person and still be a victim.
@@GamerX-qn7ouI see your cry for help. Here’s a virtual hug 🫂
Literally everyone in this story is a poor kid.
I know it's heart breaking to think she was only 23/24 at this point. So sad. She was so stunted. Like why wasn't she immediately put into care with baby at 12 when she had him?
These kids needed a parent, even her. Poor babies.
Yes!
@@WizardOCaptionshappens a lot in those communities.
@@WizardOCaptions She was, her son was raped/molested in the foster home the state put her in. the state doesnt help, they just pretend to help.
@@Nothingisreal1737 Woww.. This is why nobody respects racists
As soon as I heard them say that she had her son at 11 years old, I knew this story was gonna be messed up.
I knew as soon as I saw the title
So they kept him up for 24 hours. This kid really needed a lawyer.
@JesusLORD690 A cute one just delivered my groceries, and then he got creepy real quick.
@@eeveequeen15mk
@JesusLORD690 acting like white people aint the ones usually doing the screwed up stuff😭
Everyone in this case is a victim and it's absolutely tragic.
It is certainly an example of why we shouldn't force abused 11 year old girls to become mothers.
Exactly! All I know is that these detectives are the hardest working people I can think of. They don't do physical work, but the mental gymnastics they go through day in and day out is astonishing! The human brain is amazing.
No…. They aren’t “victims”. They are perpetrators !!! The mother should NEVER had kids, let alone 3. She is a horrible mom !!! The 12 year old acts like a 4 year old !! He is a lunatic !!
@@dcb1138 That is an easy statement to make if you can't grasp the complexities of trauma and human psychology. Most things in life are a lot less black and white than is convenient.
@@dcb1138 you have the brain of a goldfish
That detective did amazing. She was very compassionate, patient, and professional
That's called acting, but yeah her acting had all those characteristics
well they have to be or act compassionate... the kid is 12
personally, I find the law that allows children to be interviewed without the presence of parents or some sort of caretakers cruel. This was an all night interrogation for a 12 year old, and yes, she was kind of nice but this was still inappropriate.
@@evawilhelm5113how is it cruel? How is it inappropriate?
Christian needs to stay longer in jail he knew what he was doing I feel sorry for him then again little David suffered in his short life
Imagine being in foster care with your toddler aged son. Truly deranged.
It actually happens a lot and is a common scenario for teens in foster care :(
It doesn’t happen a lot but it does happen. Sometimes teens have kids while in foster care. A lot of these kids are sexualized and/or are sexually reactive. It’s really sad
@roninkraut6873 it's hard to find comprehensive stats, but research into it (Annie E. Casey Foundation) shows approx. 10% of teens in foster care are parents by 19, and 23% are parents by 21. It's also important to remember that more than 30 states allow youth to remain in foster care until 21. That means that, actually, MANY foster youth are parents themselves in the US. It's very sad and very common
@@roninkraut6873 my mother is a social worker, it happens a lot unfortunately.
Deranged is the wrong choice of word you mean incredibly sad….. I’m 100% sure being pregnant at 11 and have 4 kids by 23 was not in her long term life plan
She having been sexually abused at 10 and having a baby at 11. And being in and out of Foster homes. Christian getting absolutely molested and severely beaten by his dad, and then to top it all off witnesses him blowing his own brains out in-front of them. It was almost a guarantee that he would be messed up and have violent outbursts after having experienced that kind of trauma so young, and such a short time frame. Crazy all around.
Adverse Childhood Experiences or ACES….. if this hadn’t happened, he would be terrorizing a random child at school. Child Services failed this family. She should’ve had consistent check ins based on her own trauma. this is so sad.
It’s crazy how many Hispanics I know of when I was a teenager and girls younger than Me would has 30yo Hispanic boyfriends & their moms knew
I know Hispanic girls that had kids at 13 & 14
That ish was completely shocking to Me the way I was raised until My Mom & Dad divorced
Then single Moms & life completely changed
Next thing you know I’m living in the hood and experiencing crazy stuff like that around Me
Just Wild Stuff
I don't think Christian saw the suicide. He went to school beaten, got sent to the hospital, then the cops were going to arrest step-dad and he suicided.
Not disputing he went through hell but wanted to clarify.
These police officers dont care about people, all they care about is getting the truth so they can charge people. The system is sick so it rubs off on all of us
@@CSDonohue11 the problem here is old guys having sex with hispanic teenagres... not the teen moms, they didnt choose that
This lady is still a child in a sense. Having a baby at 11 can do alot of damage to someone!
Thank God for social services.
Thank god for abortion.
@@fiolds350???
Na she’s an idiot ..
@@fiolds350fr
This is one of the most devastating, horrific interviews I’ve ever seen. Truly shaken to my core. This poor family.
He's 12. He looks so tiny. His mom was already a mother at that age. What a horrible hand that life dealt that whole family 😢😢
Apparently the mother used to live with her grandma in the Dominican Republic and she was raised pretty well there. Then at 8 her abusive mom showed up out of nowhere and moved her to Miami. Everything went downhill from there. If she had stayed with her grandma and never moved her life would have definitely been a lot different and better
@@ananya255oh no. That’s heartbreaking.
@@ananya255
Still was her fault for the 2 year old dying. She's dumb and I think she herself should have served more than 10 years in jail
@@vickyandersen8660 Well being abused for years can mentally impair you. Don't call her dumb
@@ananya255 I understand, but a person with emotion wouldn't let a child just die
This young mother isn’t “most people”. This woman, and her children, never had a chance.
Boomers in the comment think she was capable because they were able to watch their siblings alone when they were younger. It's insane how they gloss over the part where an 11yo girl gave birth and was put in foster care WITH her son.
@@toidIllorTAmI I’m a boomer, and I was never left alone, nor did I ever leave my children alone. I know it was commonly done, but I’ve questioned just how much common sense the boomer parents, mine included, had.
@@toidIllorTAmI still not an excuse
Yes that did annoy me - comparing your own life to someone who was born with no chances wse !
@@UwUImTheo it's not an excuse, it's mental illness which people like you ignore and suddenly ask "why is there so many crazy people?" She and her children needed help and guess what? It took a murder to get her the help because people like you ignore her.
The trauma just continued to be passed around throughout this story. This is so heartbreaking. The abused become abusers.
Not always. You either repeat or break the cycle. It depends whether you are a decent person or not.
The demon passes from perpetrator to victim during the @buse. Then, the victim is either manipulated to turn into a perpetrator, and they manage to overcome and fight against demonic influence.
@@lorimiller4301has nothing to do with a demon. Abused people will often repeat their abuses. The fact some still maintain their sanity and don't doesn't mean the others have demons.
@@angelgirldebbiejo Don't rule out demonic influence. It never occurred to me that demons may play a part but they are very real and this fits their M.O.
@@lorimiller4301 There's no demon, it's documented human behaviour. Get a grip.
Incredible work by the detective. Her ability to work with kids and adults (semi-adult I guess) is phenomenal
The detective seems familiar from the rodante interrogation
Yeah I agree. I could be wrong but some places use detectives that specifically work or have training with children.
How on earth did they not investigate an 11 year old giving birth in 1999?! That is so fucking sad and I feel for the poor mom. They failed her AND her kids. 🥺
They did. He was prosecuted for it when he was 20 years old
She still knew right from wrong
Feel for the people who most likely will be victims to this boys next violent crime.
He only served 7 years in Juvenile Detention, and was free at 19 years old.
Do you think he's fully rehabilitated?
His Mother was only given probation. I wonder how many more children she gave birth to?
Am I the only one these light sentences bothers?
@purplelove3666 to a certain degree that amount of truma can fuck you up. this story was always going to have a sad ending unfortunately.
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Every child was let down in this. This is EXACTLY why mental health matters!! Mental health should be treated as seriously as physical health!
Physical health doesn’t even get taken serious. The system and doctors don’t care about us! Lol
Physical abuse and mental health both need to be taken seriously
@@EARTHTOMICH8LLE🐂💩. I've been a cognitive behavioral therapist for 30 years. Most of the adults I deal with don't care about themselves or the damage they do. Blanket statements like yours are arbitrary and capricious.
@@EARTHTOMICH8LLE "The system" is full of people that care and also people that don't care enough. And there is a scale - it's easy to start out caring and then get jaded and overwhelmed and start to disassociate over time.
It's not a matter of everyone being evil and not caring. It's more complicated than that.
Even then it's never a guarantee they person will actually get better
This is easily the saddest crime story I've ever heard on this channel. It broke my heart completely.
Im so moved by the empathy and compassion being shown for ALL of the victims in this case❤ Ive seen so many hateful people online lately. You guys have given me some hope for humanity.
They are criminals wtf are u talking about, he killed that little boy, hopefully he will never get out of jail and rot there
The mother should have been charged with murder instead of her son because she could have taken him to the hospital when it happened and although Christian intentionally hurt his brother he didn't mean to cause him to die
@@Katykat2024 I agree.
@DeSousa-w9b ?
@@Katykat2024you’d be surprised how many parents/families don’t bother to go to the hospital especially people in lower class. Hospitals are so expensive in many countries.I’m not justifying the mother’s irresponsibility, but it’s the reality to many people financially unfortunate. Unless they see your skull open or leg cut off, you’ll never see them near any hospital.
Her google searches and phone history is proof that she never grew up.. What a sad story from every angle
The fact that she was raped and had a child at age 11 is horrific.
The fact that she was not protected as a child by a drug addicted mother, (who probably sold her to pedos for drugs) or authorities nor the hospital staff is why she NEVER knew*how* to grow up.
The system is broken and failed every child here... yet again.
This will continue to constantly happen until we start holding all involved, parents and government agency people responsible.
Children having children will NEVER change until lawmakers pass bills in *EVERY* state across the board.
*SMFH*
@@notme2day Child Protection is broken. We see it over and over again. Some little kids have nobody on their side.
Yes and no. She was able to look up online and as she said she was afraid they take her kids away MORE THAN SAVING her kids. She should have send her son to psych therapy. And where was she all night away, never home
@@GD-xc4wgI get what you're trying to say but at the same time, not everyone thinks logically. In her mind she probably never even thought death was a possibility for her son. Yes its wrong and I'm not excusing that but she obviously can't think like a rational adult
@@GD-xc4wgworking probably . She was a single mom, nobody else was paying utilities since dead dads don’t pay child support.
Seems like DFCS could have stopped this. 11yrs old having a baby, 5 years of abuse. Father committing suicide in front of them.... Jesus The system failed once again
Why do people constantly depend on the “system”? Take responsibility and stop making excuses. This lady had every chance to change from what she was and make a better life for her kids.
@@noneyabidness196 You're disgusting. A child was raped and forced to raise a baby when she was just a baby herself, her mom was a strung-out lost cause, and absolutely no one stepped in to help her. She was BARELY an adult when this happened, and had lived through hell with a violent man who traumatized her and all of her children. Of course she should have taken her baby to the hospital when she found him, of course she made SO many mistakes that she's going to live with for the rest of her life, but you making it seem like her brain wasn't entirely WARPED since she was a child herself is just deranged. We have systems in place to help victims, and every single one of them fails so many people on a daily basis. None of the people in this video stood a chance. And here you are, showing your whole ass to the internet because empathy is a hard thing for losers like you to grasp.
@@noneyabidness196 normally I'd agree with you, however in this case it's a tough call. She was only 11 when she had Christian and never got the chance to mature properly into an adult. Substance abuse and likely sexual abuse at such a young age stunts your ability to mature. It seemed like she barely knew how to take care of herself much less 4 kids. She had no business having children at all. That's when the system 100% needs to step in and remove those children from her care and force her into some kind of supervised living situation as well. Some people don't have the proper life skills to take care of themselves or others and are better off being removed from society.
@@noneyabidness196 she wasn't a lady she was a child herself - how do you know what chances she had? - looks to me like she had none - easy to be judgemental when you haven't been through what she went through
@@TheRobynbrownagreed. She was a child herself
He was abusing his little brother and the mom still left him alone with him. The hospital saw the injury and allowed her to take him home, failure all around.
at some point it's just natural selection
@@moiseman That's not natural selection. That's a cycle of abuse and neglect perpetuating through multiple generations.
@@moisemanmy ass. he was TWO
Shame on EWU for exploiting the tragedy of this family? Send the profits of this video to show them not everyone is disconnected from generational abuse and neglect. 💕
@@amusedBYfoolsI think the same thing, I had to do not recommend channel for this. I don’t want people to make money from my demise
Aside from his death- that way of breaking someone’s hips & legs is absolutely horrific. Watching the dolls movement is even more horrific. RIP
The way Cristian said "David is a/the pushover" is so telling- he has been his stepdad's punching bag for so long, he acted out to make someone else the victim so he could feel big for once in his life. None of them ever had a chance. This is truly sad all around.
So, soooo sad…that’s all I could, think, too, after hearing about the mom’s past & these kids’ home life… “they never had a chance.”
@@RavenTheElderthey did. they made thrir choices. 😂
@@GoatLordOfEvil can a 11 years old makes her choice to get pregnant? Or even better, makes her choice to live with substance abuse mother and mental unwell husband?
@@GoatLordOfEvil these people don't get a choice of what family to be born into,they made their choice to beat up their little brother but they made that choice because they got randomly born into a family that was fucked to begin with,one man who got an 11 yr old pregnant caused all this
Any chance the boy killed stepdad after getting in trouble for beating his little brother? Then boy shoots stepdad and frames it as suicide.
The older son has never ever had a chance since he was born. Born to a child mother, placed in foster care where he was abused twice, then endured years of violent physical abuse from his stepdad who ended his life in front of the children. Then made to be a responsible father figure to his baby brother. His role modelling had been one of violence and neglect. Then sent to an adult prison to be abused and violated again. I am sure he blamed himself for his step father’s suicide (because it was over his facial injuries) and also for his brother’s death. All of the children never stood a chance to thrive in life because of generational neglect and abuse. I hope they all (mother included) can get help to make a better ending to their life stories. This one is heartbreaking.
Absolutely true , it's so tragic and sad and not one person that's paid to look out for abused children and to save them , did
Perfectly said. They were all failed by a faulty system that didn't protect them from their domestic abusers. I hope they all are able to heal from the generational trauma one day 😢.
It is not true - this justification is repulsive. Many suffered terrible abuse but somehow we chose not to murder siblings, kids or adults later in life. Further more we chose not to abuse others in life eventhough we know how to do it.
@@user-zy8gk2nn7d do you know children of abuse of very likely to abuse children? They're so likely that often they can't work in childcare, adopt or foster unless married to people this didn't happen to. The same goes for children raised in foster care, children that became parents as children, children that went through the criminal justice system. There's a reason for this.
Its 100% her fault..
"Why did you push him?"
"Because of what my step-dad did to me"
Chilling. Absolutely chilling.
That was very self aware for him to say that
@@anuket1069that’s what I’m saying I’m tellin u rn he knows exactly what he did
Question is... What did the step dad really do
@@tuxhabib I think he knows what he did but honestly couldn't control it. I wrote in another comment that he is absolutely self aware but in a way like being paralyzed in your body. You know things are happening but I feel like he has so little control over it. Which is not to say he isn't culpable. But I don't think "aware" means "intentionally did it with full knowledge of the consequences"
@@mrcoolguy819utterly deluded, this is twisted logic that could be used for any case...
This is the most I've choked up and cried over a video on this channel.. I'm relieved to see the comment section is full of everything I could say about this..
Absolutely tragic.. and that's just putting it simply.. nothing is simple about this.
I was raised in an extremely violent household and it took me YEARS to get control of my negative impulses. I feel terrible for children this happens to.
respect
I grew up in an extremely violent household yet never beat or abused anyone or anything. An experience does not necessarily determine an outcome.
@@RobbieAmerican I agree. It depends on the person.
@@RobbieAmerican Everyone’s outcome is not the same - however it is far more likely for children to emulate their parents, particularly when there are younger siblings in the house.
@@RobbieAmerican probably not a good idea to confine the world and everyone elses experiences in it to only your experience, perspective, or point of view. the world is not you. you are you. everyone handles things differently. you are literally proving that by even leaving your comment. you might want to be talking to your therapist about whatever ego complex you have though. nobody likes a narcissist, no matter how 'vulnerable' they seemingly are.
So an eleven year old girl is raped, gives birth, her addict mother neglects her and the baby, the rapist is never found or charged, and the victim is forced to grow up with no safety net, gets into a (most likely) abusive relationship, still at a very young age, has three more children, all of whom suffer physical and emotional abuse, the abusive father kills himself in front of his three young children, and the oldest kid, who has already suffered abuse and neglect at the hands of every adult in his life, lashes out in anger against his little brother-- and the one who the hammer comes down hardest on is the 12-year-old abuse victim. How that child was indicted on 1st degree murder is beyond me. Him and all his siblings should have been taken by social services and the mother should have gotten psychiatric help. Crazy how it's only when a little kid so damaged by abuse he can't control himself lashes out, the police get involved. Where were they when the abuse was happening, to any of them?
Edit: to be clear, I’m not saying there should have been no consequences. I’m saying it’s a gross miscarriage of justice that something wasn’t done sooner to prevent the situation from escalating to this point, and that initially the kid was charged with first degree murder when he simply didn’t commit first degree murder.
Poor 4yo daughter. Her whole family is either dead or in prison .. i hope she doesnt end with her grandparents ..
You summarized this all perfectly. This entire situation and family is so messed up I genuinely can't even understand how it all happened like this.
11 year knows what's right and wrong so they'll adults not kids . how a kid gets sexual activity or get pregnant ?
@@ooooozzzzz3312are you fucking insane?!
@bigpapamagoo8696 The song "In the Ghetto" by Elvis Presley comes to mind. The lyrics remind me greatly of what you just described here. Truly tragic.
What a tragic story. Pregnant at 11, the boy beaten for 5 years, the children witnessing the "dad" commiting suicide, then the 12 year old being charged as an adult for murder of his brother... I hope they're all living better lives now...
I hope so😢
But I don't think so😮
they 100% arent living better lives...what a stupid thing to even say lmao
What about poor David he will never even get a chance at life?
@noriwilliams4637 if you finish the video you'll see he now works at a barber shop. Hopefully he makes it through the trauma and has gotten therapy😢 I wish I knew what was going on with his mom as well
@@noriwilliams4637both can be sad at the same time you know?
This lady cop was so awesome with Christian, she used the doll properly and I particularly liked how she stroked and held the doll in front of Christian while they were talking so it seemed like the doll was more human to the boy! Good training, she was gentle and kind but firm in the sense of getting to the truth by saying kind things but letting the boy know she knew he was lying and she kept rephrasing until he told the truth! She was good with Bianella too, firm but still kind. Well lady! Those poor kids having such a tragic upbringing and a violent father who then in a last act traumatised them all with his suicide infront of the kids. It’s no wonder with a mother with no real clue of the reality of what a mother truly is and does but expects a twelve year old child with violent tendencies and an abused past look after the kids a lot by the looks of it! Christian needed help and yet his mother made him the responsible make after her fella died, that’s a lot for a young boy struggling himself! Tragic video and could have been prevented!
This entire thing is so sad. She got pregnant at 11. I can't imagine what that does to a person.
True, one of the reasons why abortions are needed to be an option.
I was playing with Barbies till 12 years old 😮😮😮😮
No excuses
This is the future conservatives want. VOTE.
That's so sad. I couldn't believe the youngest to have a baby is 5years old!!!!! She was SA by a uncle I believe.
Absolutely horrific. Cristian’s father was 25 at the time of his birth and was only given 10 years probation for sexually assaulting Biannela!?!?! Cannot wrap my head around this.
Yet 12 yrd christian was tried as a adult and interrogated non stop thru out night and then handcuffed, tried as an adult!
Who may have been as young as 11..
zzZA A z 🤣🙂🤣🙃
Pdoz always get let off lightly
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Christian was abused and lived a hard life. He was a traumatized boy who became the abuser. He’s mentally unwell
Finally a comment I found that is not talking about the pregnancy at 11, like its the dads fault.. Not the kids...
like who cares
This is not mental illness. This is a choice to be evil
@@HaiGudetama It’s rape if she was 11! So yes, the one who impregnated her can take some blame. He should be arrested. Probably a boyfriend of her mother’s.
@@Dustandfuzz Tf I'm talking about Christen, it's the dads fault that he damaged Christen like this, so he took notes and did it to his brother... 🤦♀️
Wow, that kid needs serious help. I was relieved when he cried.
By his age she already had a kid. What a bizarre, sad story
And was still stuck with her own useless parents.
it wasnt that sad, she went on to have more kids...... soooo
Fasted reproducing population 😂
@@persaud1207what is wrong with you?
@@CLOWTISMS what u mean???
This is a mother that stood no chance. She was a child when she gave birth, she was allowed to raise the child when her own mother was incapable of guiding her through such a thing. She’s obviously been through so much trauma in her life her perspective is skewed, how could it not be. She should never have been left at 11 to raise a child, someone should have been jailed and she should have been protected. It’s just an awful situation all round.
These things will get worse as more state start denying little girls access to abortion.
Yes I believe what you say. But the boy was taken in foster care and was molested twice. So i believe she wss given custody which was wrong.
this is normal for b3aners
@@afaha2214 ragebait
This is 100% a case where the USA failed its children. She never should have been allowed to birth that child, which would have prevented him from being abused by his grandmother and others in the system. She should have been taken away from her mother and put in a loving foster home, but instead everyone in this story suffered unimaginable horrors. Those poor children witnessed their father unalive himself, and she had three children with him, in quick succession, around the age of 19. None of them stood a chance.
+Had a baby at 11(!).
+Suffered from substance abuse and neglect ,which she also inflicted on her baby( continuing the cycle of abuse).
+Finally taken away from her birth family at 15(!).
+Gets married at 18. I just hope he was similarly young.
+4 kids by 21st birthday.
+Husband DIES, but was abusive ( because of course he was)
+Finds out oldest son has anger issues like the stepfather.
She never had a chance. It's not an excuse for her neglect, just super sad.
It's easy to judge but I don't think people can relate with the bond she had for that maniacal 12 year old , that she had mothered since she was only 11. Sad all around.
Incredibly sad
@@kenw2225 At 11 I was still playing with fake babies- This is a horrifying situation all the way round
Yeah sad and she was abusive too and her husband was to her who probably had went through abuse himself and a lot of bad stuff. Cycle of abuse like it usually goes..
*_The thing that really bothers me is the fact that she had an unconscious,seriously hurt child but behaved like it was like any other ORDINARY day, loading David togheter with the other kids taking them to school and so on. THAT bothers me. You do not need an education, good childhood, or being happily married to TAKE YOUR UNCONSCIOUS, BLEEDING 2 YEAR OLD TO THE HOSPITAL. It bothers me a lot. Something is more seriously wrong with her under the surface. And it isn't pretty. But she plays her role quite well. The majority of people view her as 100% being a victim due to her upbringing. She scares me._*
the detective in this was amazing. perfectly navigated the child while holding firm when he was dishonest, and then perfectly calculated and scolding with his neglectful mother. she put everything together and tied it with a bow for prosecutors
This can be boiled down to generational neglect - she was never in a good home, severely neglected, had children extremely young and probably didn’t even go to school long. She probably literally never knew what she should be doing, and as a result her children don’t know anything but what they are growing up in. Not an excuse, but it is easy to see why she lies like this and how it happened.
Yeah, she never had a chance.
@@clintonleonard5187especially when her ex was abusive POS teaching her oldest that it was okay. This is horrible all the way around, there needs to be more support for people like this
Life is really tough.
Not an excuse but definitely the cause
It is refreshing to see people who understand psychology and trauma enough to know that reasons why things happen are not excusing those things. It's an important discussion and distinction that many won't allow their brains to wrap around.
This is just heartbreaking. She was ELEVEN. She's now 23, widowed, with four kids under 12??? How??
no birth control.
Extremely low IQ.
Has nothing to do w bc but that's amazing it that ignorant. Has to do w years of neglect and cycles of abuse the mom nor the kids never had a chance
@@Kim-CvsWarriors Actually, it has a lot to do with birth control. Women are regularly experiencing many types of hardships, standard (like not being able to afford pills) or extreme (like needing a hysterectomy and not being able to get one) when it comes to taking control over their reproductive health. All women struggle with this, and poor, disenfranchised women struggle the most.
Luckily, there's a new kind of OTC birth control, and it's not terribly expensive. Many women report the easy access to care is incredibly helpful.
(I'm unsurprised at the ocean of pick-mes and their billions of unplanned children trying to put down easy access to reproductive care. Way to go, girls!)
@@darknesskingsized8996Birth control is free at the health department.
Stop making excuses.
She had her son at 11?! Omggg NOTHING is so disturbing then a kid HAVING a kid. Just truly heartbreaking.
what is truly heartbreaking is...how did she get pregnant at TEN??? I found out Santa wasnt real at 10😟. I really like to know who the "father" is!
It's sad
@@mynameiseve.1 pdf files duhhh theres way more than you'd think and they are rarely caught
Its actually normal for mexicans sadly.
@@mynameiseve.1a 20 year old that got charged with statutory rape
Sadly, this kid was demented from the beginning, most likely he is sicker than ever now in the head and I’m sure he will end up back in prison for doing it again
Agreed. The way he acted so innocent and babyish when being questioned & then joyfully punching his own hands, "Bam! Bam!" and recreating the murder of a BABY, when he was left alone, told me everything, I need to know. Many people have very hard lives but don't repeatedly abuse then kill a baby then act like that afterwards. Not an poor kid. A demented killer.
He suffered a lot of trauma at a young age and was probably suffering from conduct disorder as a result. He was not “demented” from the beginning, he was abused and neglected. If he received therapy there is a chance he will live a relatively normal life.
@@slimyturtle4665he can’t be saved at 12. He would have needed therapy from a way earlier age.
He will always be dangerous now. Needs to be locked up for life. Treated kindly but locked up.
Him changing his tone and reenacting punching David shows you he is completely different when adults arent around.
Yeah that was frightening. Even more so knowing that he's free now. If he killed someone with his bare hands at 12 imagine what he's capable of now.
He clearly doesn't understand the gravity of his actions, he was 12yrs old interrogated alone for hours, tell me how many adults you know that could withstand that? If all he knew was violence it's a normal reaction to not express remorse when you've never been taught or shown any. It's sad all around he will always carry the guilt of knowing he killed his own brother, that in itself is a death sentence.
@@krisdiane he was a victim of sexual and physical abuse, and his stepdad killed himself in front of his siblings. He's not some kind of monster, he just doesn't know anything other than violence.
@@tallky that's literally how monsters are made though. Most serial killers started as victims. I'm not saying that I don't have sympathy for him, but I highly doubt a juvenile detention center taught him empathy. Honestly, there's probably no hope of that once a child reaches adolescence and has already worked his way up to brutalizing humans. Maybe with intense therapy. But jail of any kind only makes you harder. Sad as it is, a monster is what was made.
@@krisdiane "What is better? To be born good or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?" Keep in mind that Frankenstein may have created the monster, but the monster never wanted to be one until everyone keep treating him as such. This kid never had a chance and still you don't want to give him one. Hes in his mid 20s now and hes a barber hes part of society. Give bro a chance. I mean, I get it. His brother will never get a chance. But he was 12 with serious abuse and no one but an abused mom to guide him who was so young herself. Its not like he can take it back.
I find it difficult to even wrap my head around the sheer amount of failures here. It just makes my stomach turn.
This kinda stuff happens every day - That's how they keep making these videos.
@@thewhitelodgery That doesn't make it any easier to digest.
@@mylaclay5532 It should. Recognize human ego's are the cause of all problems. Accepting and moving of is essential for growth. @thewhitelodgery is absolutely right, it happens every day, the reality of the world we (humans) struggle to accept truth. The truth hurts, move on.
Yeah and this video insinuating that the mother is disgusting when she was doing the best she thought she could. The AUTHORITIES are the disgusting ones that failed so many.
It makes me uneasy watching this woman who probably has a husband and is financially stable talk to this mom who was failed over and over and over by everyone possible. I just feel like she looks down on that poor mom who is probably scared.
Little man is manipulative. He absolutely know what he's doing
Please, a 12 year old little traumatized bully doesn't imagine a kid will die from 2 blows. He just wanted to feel big & beat up the kid of the grown man who did horrid shit to him (wrong but common as hell). I hope they gave him a good therapist and didn't just pump him full of drugs in juvie. Being charged as an adult for that was wild.
& Letting an 11 year old little girl "mother" her child was insane, who knows how little she was when the raped started. You already know she got pregnant once she got her very first period smh
@@CommanderWaddles- there's legit another case on here where a 12yr old murdered a girl, in a 3-person murder.
@@CommanderWaddlespow pow … he got knockout innit ?
so let me get this straight. The mother was raped at 11 and forced to have a kid. And kept with her drug addicted mother at the time to the point of being severely neglected. Till she was 18 and married an abusive person. Had 3 kids with him. Only for him to abuse all 4 of those kids for basically the entire time he was there. Till the point he killed himself LITERALLY IN FRONT OF THEM. Driving the 12 year old to the point basically to insanity from abuse and neglect. Leading him to kill his younger brother in a fit of rage.
Dear god... this family had ZERO chance of surviving...
It’s truly terrible how the system failed this family throughout multiple generations
These kids shouldn't have been born to such incompetent people, generation after generation.
Passing the blame. Classic. It's sad her Family and race failed her. Their countries don't suck by accident, it's overloaded with this kind of stuff.
Actions > consequences.
@floridaman5125 ??
@floridaman5125 AMEN!! My first thought. Take them back where this is their way of life.
@floridaman5125 did they ever mentioned anything about their immigration status or are you one of those unintelligent people who assume every Hispanic person wasn’t born here and is undocumented…???
This is one of the most depressing things I've ever seen. Some people just don't have a chance
Yes you're absolutely correct. But believe or not there are people in this world who think people who end up in these types of horrific situations end up there solely because of their own personal decisions. Imagine being that selfish, privileged and out of touch with reality.. sad.
For real. As soon as Christian started crying in the corner, felt my throat start tightening up and my eyes started watering. The whole story is just awful.
@BrickCityBella Oh yeah the level of ignorance I have seen in this comment section is so depressing. Zero understanding of circumstances. Zero understanding of trauma and its long term effects. And even far too many people supporting p does. Complete denial of science and research all around.
They blame the 11 year old mother who lived in poverty and was abused and used by adults her whole life for not being able to get out of her situation like ??? With what resources? She is so severely developmentally delayed and psychologically altered due to her trauma, she has never had agency in her whole life due to the adults who were abusing her and she had zero resources or support. You don't magically wake up one day and think "I will no longer be traumatized". It takes work and professional help. Professional help that is abysmal in the country this case took place in while also being extremely difficult to access.
And then the 12 year old kid was chronically abused by the only man in his life, had to witness his death and is also very clearly developmentally delayed. He has no support and doesn't know how to express what he has experienced, so it comes out as violence that is simply a mimicry of what his monster of a stepfather did to him. His comments about how his brother was weak for not being able to take 2 punches are so painfully obviously him parroting something someone said while hurting him. Just like his "mother" (she was a CHILD) he had zero resources, connections or support. Zero means to get out of his situation.
And now a 2 year old is gone forever because of it. None of these kids should have been in that home. And yes I am counting the mother even if she was 23 when this took place because her physical, hormonal and psychological childhood traumas would have completely prevented her from having a normal puberty and would have delayed her cognitive growth and she is very likely still mentally a child.
@IceFireofVoid Exactly my point. Thank you. Some people are so ignorant to blame the individuals involved in this case. How some people can be so self centered and out of touch with reality is mind blowing.
100%. Everyone was a victim here.
The lady detective was so good and casually took all the important information
Omg. Pregnant at 11 yrs old? She’s a victim of sexual abuse and Christian was too. This story is sooo sad. She was never taught how to care and love another properly because she never was.
Christian wasnt a victim of sexual abuse 🤦♂️
@@bruh-wu8iq i mean we don’t know that. and based on this situation, not directly, but he was indirectly made a victim of sexual abuse by being born from it
@@shephsnap that still doesn't make him a victim
@bruh-wu8iq Actually he was a victim if you were paying attention to the information provided, it stated how he was allegedly assualted by 2 boys in foster care and his step father had caused injuries to him he is a victim
Yes he is a victim he was abused by his father
A two year old unconscious baby, transported around before just being left on a bed for an entire day. That thought alone is massively disturbing.
The kid is 100% evil.. idgaf what happened to him... u know right from wrong...lit met tons of pol who have had terrible things happen to them and they don't do this sht
@@willthomas7666same! I hear a lot of people that want to blame the person’s past for their future crimes and behaviors, but that’s not how it works. A person can choose to be who they want to be. They can choose to be a good person or they can choose to be an evil person. What they go through in their past lives should make them want to treat others differently than how they were treated. That’s no excuse for them to get out here and murder someone or something awful like that. Granted that some people do need psychiatric help to get through their trauma, but most people deal with it in their own way. My heart goes out to this baby who lost his life. It’s sad that he only saw 2 years of his life. But he’s with Jesus now and wouldn’t wanna be back here for nothing.
@@debrajones4010 You're a product of your environment and the kid has only known abuse for most of his life. His mother was 12 when she had him, and didn't have a support system around her to help. When the mother finally found some help that man was abusive to him as well. Not only that he killed himself in front of the children.
I don't condone what he did, but He was only 12 years old. Kids that age even when they know things are wrong don't fully understand the consequences of their actions. He got away with torturing that little boy one too many times. He should never have been left alone with him again after he broke his leg "doing yoga".
his mother was a child having a child. that's awesome ! project 2025 is in full support !!!
wtf I'm actually disgusted ,!
that's what project 2025 is though.
Project 2025 is the handmaids tale
They say that the moment you experienced something traumatic, your brain stops growing. This story feels like proof of that.
so dumb, lots of ppl who had trauma and still became functional good ppl
@@Riceenjoyer2001and a whole ton of people that didn’t. Your point?
@@Riceenjoyer2001correct, though I think what leafy meant was that you get stunted until you catch up.
Wrong. That’s not how that works. I have intense childhood trauma, my brain is fine. It has nothing to do with that. What happens, is your brain activates your GABA system, instead of glutamate, meaning you son’s form memories. There’s stress induced glutamate excitotoxicity where memory is all sorts of screwed up. You can have intense memories stored, in high detail, or you could have literally nothing there. Trauma affects the chemicals of the brain but it doesn’t make your brain “stop growing”. That just doesn’t happen or make sense.
@@Riceenjoyer2001but did most of them saw their parent kill themselves in front of them???? to witness such horrific trauma at such a young age ontop of being abused, it is not surprising to become what Christian had become.
This is one of the most heartbreaking stories I've ever heard.
What an all around horrific situation. The mother pregnant at 11, Christian abused by his stepfather, and poor little David abused by his brother and his injuries hidden by a woman who was so frightened of the thought of losing her children she lost them all anyway. This is what generational neglect and abuse looks like. It's so incredibly sad. Watching Christian in this video, it really hits home when you take a moment to remember, his mother was one year younger than he was in this video when she gave birth to him.
I bet that mom was in on the abuse too once she got."home from the bank"
Hurting people hurt people 😭😭😭😭😭
@@donnathomas9111and? That doesn’t excuse that behavior
GTFO the kids an evil p.o.s... she lit lied about everthing, was at the house when it happened... and then waited 2 days to take a kid thats unconscious to the hospital? GTFO.. 99.999999% chance she was in on it,.or 100% knew exactly what happened, and was just scared to deal with the counseces... that's why she lied and told her kid to lie
Use ur brain.... she lied and told him to lie, bc she KNEW she knew the kid was toast.. and how TF she only got manslaughter is also crazy
pregnant at 11 years old… sick world we live in.
It's a fallen world without Jesus.
Why?
It's even sicker if you dig deep.
@@xinpingdonohoe3978 what do you mean why?
@@sushles it's pretty self-explanatory. What about her getting pregnant demonstrates our world is "sick"?
Every detail of their story is so sad. Having a child at 11? I can't imagine what kind of generational trauma their family has. Those poor children seeing their stepdad kill himself... the trauma must be immense.
In a sane society, why would having a child early be a problem? She just needs proper support by the community
Early? She was 11! Consenting age for sex is 16! That fact aside, she didn't have support. Her mother was in active addiction & EVERYONE who had a duty to her & her baby FAILED miserably. @StefanReich
Hush. Pregnancy and childbirth itself is hard on an adult. NO child should be bringing a life into the world. An 11 year old child should be playing with Barbies and allowed the chance to develop and understand the world. The support should come from the adults in their lives allowing then a safe space, not raising a child. Are you slow? @@StefanReich
@De7Sanchez What kind of messed up comment is that?
EDIT: They deleted their messed up comment.
@@De7Sanchezwhat did bro say!!!!!!!???
Christian's behavior made sense. His step-dad was violent to him, drugs around, a neglecting mother doing jail time of and on. That's all he knew. Not a proper education made him slower than other 12 year olds. The mother should not have custody of any of her children.
That interviewer is very good at what she does.
Sad story all around. What a messed up kid and family.
that kid is a whole CHILD and he was neglected by his mother. how dare you blame him for being treated terribly. he and his brother didn’t need to be raised by that mother.
@@samanthadowling5562 and the mother didn't deserve to be knocked up at 11 (probably r-worded given her age) with no support from her drug addict egg donor either. You either didn't pay attention to the whole video or have selective memory considering the fact that you fail to realize that this was a vicious cycle. The mother is by no means innocent but she's also a huge victim in her own right given how badly the system failed her. If she had gotten help when she herself was just a child, none of this would have happened.
@@samanthadowling5562they didn't blame him? They said he's messed up which he very OBVIOUSLY is. Nobody is taking away from the fact its sad and he too was a victim. In fact, it's his victimization that messed him up.
i hate that when she tells her what happened she said he was mad at david when christan said multiple times it was his step dad he was angry with.
@@samanthadowling5562you need to get your eyes checked
I don't think any 12 year old would fully be able to understand their rights, no matter how well they are explained.
Edit: Understanding the words of what your rights are vs. fully comprehending what your rights mean and the life consequences of speaking without an attorney present are different things.
When I was 12, I definitely would have understood the words they were saying, but I would absolutely would not have grasped the extent of the situation.
I'm surprised this case didn't get thrown out over that.
Fact. There should be an adult present to represent the child. Funny how, in America, we like protect children when it’s convenient but throw that idea away whenever these horrible situations happen.
definitely not the legal part of it, hes 12 years old but he still killed his baby brother and he would have done much worse later in life, that kid never stood a chance
Florida things...smh that whole disclaimer about how they interrogate and charge minors makes me never want to step foot in that shit state.
The mum was a kid herself when she got him. About him.. kids dont always tell the truth.
But.. Kids should never face police like this alone. I know its done all the time. What a society we have...
11 years old give birth to child 😮😮😮 ex husband killed himself in front of kids. Everything is so bizarre from beginning 😢😮 poor kids 😢
Letting this kid talk without getting him a lawyer immediately shows how bad they are
Neglected by an alcoholic mother, abused and pregnant at 11, widowed at 20's, abusive new husband who took his own life in front of the kids, and then this... everyone was living hell on earth, it's so sad for all of them.
Gosh I was pregnant at 15, married at 16, divorced married again widowed abused all this stuff too it's really sad when you see these awfully tragic stories and are like oh wait mines got a lot of similarities. It's like going into an NA meeting and telling your story and people saying you helped them because they realized their life really isn't that bad yet lol
The woman was 11 yrs old when pregnant.
This didn't throw red flags to ANYbody?
All this could have been avoided if "authorities" were there to protect HER!
She needed the resources of the state, THEN!!
What the state has done/not done with CHILD WELFARE is SICK!
THE STATE IS TO BLAME HERE!!
They found her at 15 high and likely treated her like trash for it, she needed someone
this !!! she was very obviously raped dude. this is all just so fucked up
Have you not seen the news... This here's peddo country now. Makes me sick that there are people trying to make it legal who can show their face publicly.
I agree. No support ever seems to have been provided for mum or family, just judgement, blame and surveillance. She should have had therapeutic support, she may possibly have had some parenting support and training whilst in the system. The kids should have had extensive support and therapy after the violent ex. There is no evidence she harmed the kids bar leaving a volatile 12 yr old watching them while she ran an errand. Arguably if she was aware he had harmed the younger kid previously she should never have left them alone without any adult supervision, but she was under a lot of pressure as a single parent. A lot is made of how long she delayed, as if she callously scrolled online, but I think she was terrified. Terrified of a system that can only judge and punish and of having all her kids taken and family split up. She wouldn’t have thought support or sympathy was even an option once she was ‘on the books’. The whole system, internationally, takes a punitive and suspicious stance towards parents and makes it clear they don’t provide support for parents, only judgement of their fitness to parent. This prevents families reaching out, and delays intervention until it becomes a crisis. Compare to middle class families where if your kid acts out you are the first to bleat to the school and request therapy / diagnosis. I think if I was in her shoes I would have taken the kid immediately to hospital, but I kind of understand why she was scared to as it would guarantee bringing the state down on the lot of them.
This whole story is horrific. A cycle of abuse repeated down the generations. My heart breaks for them all.
People keep excusing the mother's behavior and it sickens me. Trauma or not, your own personal issues will never excuse your actions.
this is the first story on this channel where pretty much everyone was failed at every single level imaginable. a baby at 11 only to be put into foster care with said baby, and then married to a child abuser who ends his life in front of the kids he had with you to avoid consequences for abusing your child. the amount of unchecked aggression and lack of development for both mom and her son, and then to charge that child as an adult? absolutely gut wrenching. i am thankful for his second chance.
I wonder where he is today. I hope his mom finds compassion from others and is safe.
I hope this family finds peace and compassion & are safe 💕
He didn't even understand the swelling of the brain so probably thought he would wake up like in a Cartoon.
@@amusedBYfools He's working at a Barber shop right now
@xioshen2058there is no justice in this story. For the mother, for David, for christian. It’s just terrible all around. They were failed at every possible point by society and everyone around them.
GENERATIONAL ABUSE DESTROYS - no one stood a chance here, the system failed to protect an 11 year old girl, or her eldest son, and it failed poor little David too.
It's easy to punish after the fact, how sad no one put effort into their early years.
Not to mention the ex husband k***ed himself in front of the kids
It's a spree of horrible things
The system doesn't know what goes on people's rooms.
@@stephenziga2319 they were literally a ward of the system for 7 years
girl that's a whole generational curse
a PREGNANT 11 year old and a baby bottle with WORMS in it?! The 2 year old was in a HIP CAST? These kids didn't have a chance.
David got the best of this story. imo
She was a mother of 4!! Which means she had more kids in her teens and had substance abuse issues. Who doesn't come in and protect her after 11 years when she got impregnated and allowed her to continue having and keeping more kids as a poor, drug addicted, uneducated single person.
@@janelane1912 well, why would anyone allow her to have any more kids after the 1st one? This is the question.....
@@grundgesetzart.1463well very obviously, no one was looking out for her.
Hope in "children" your including the mother. Cause she is still a child!
So many people commenting on this video didn't watch the last minute of it. Christian's charge was changed to aggravated battery and he ended up staying 7 years at a Juvenile Detention Facility instead and was released when he was 19. He was NOT charged with first degree murder and did NOT get life in prison.
OMGGG. Thank you for this comment! I got too emotional to watch till the end and I'm so happy to hear that he's out now. Hope live is treating him well and that he becomes the best version of himself and not defined by his past. And above all he finds love...genuine, pure, and familiar.
@@BlessedBeing751 you are disgusting...very disgusting.
I hope he was able to get counseling while he was away, that's the one big thing I really hope happened
@@rirururu4697he
@@rirururu4697 is
Just speechless. A pregnancy at 11 ... a 12 year old in (jail) prison? How does one build a life with a missing foundation and any kind of normalcy? This is insane.
Many have & do!
jail? worse, a 12 year old in prison
@@RobbieAmerican BS
Where was any sort of father figure?
Communities need to do better.
The horror that she and her baby son were put in foster care together, after becoming a mum at 11. I feel so awful for everyone involved
Yeah thats the true horror and not the dead two year old
Wtf is mum!?
@@DavidRyan-vt4uu different countries use mum instead of mom like England and the uk
@@aspdchan You know it's possible for someone to have enough empathy for them to feel horrified by more than one aspect of the situation. Weird eh?
Would it have been better to separate them?
"You're 13 years old."
"I'm 12..."
"Yeah, that's what I'm saying, you're 12." What?????
Everyone failed these children.
Agreed, and that mother too, she was also someone’s child once. my heart breaks for them all.
Nah, how one is raised is only half of it.
Genetics and intellect is the rest.
One has a conscious or one don't I recon.
This entire family. The amount of trauma experienced - they never stood a chance.
@@Coneyislandqueennn A mother at _eleven._ Can you even imagine. Jesus.
A normal 12 year old can babysit his siblings.
pregnant at 11 is genuinely clinically insane...who allowed this????
Prolife fanatics
Her addict mother
@@justdanie7613so I guess the r-ist had nothing to do with it?
Nah @@DiligentThroat
@@Qiejriddke ur weird
This is the definition of a cycle of abuse. She was a baby her damn self....
But now she’s grown
@@palmzombie3553 She wasn't grown for most of Christian's life. She had little or no help growing up.
@@Catlily5 she was grown when this happened
@@palmzombie3553 Yeah, physically. I doubt she was grown mentally.
@@Catlily5 She sure was acting grown mentally
Yo out an abused 12 year old child in cuffs should be a crime 💔 he is a CHILD!!!
Oh poor little David, i can't imagine how much pains he had to endure all his two years or life. I pray you're playing happily in heaven now 🥺
🙏🏿
Isn't life great?
🙏❤️ poor David. RIP sweet boy!
He's the one I feel sorry for the most. He suffered so much at the hands of his own brother and his mother did nothing to protect him. So incredibly sad.
$10 says Christian’s stepfather was also sexually abusing him & assumed the whole truth was about to come out.
Do you have cash app?
Sadly, my cousin went through something similar. Her father killed himself in front of her and my other cousins. It came out that she was sexually abused by him, and it was most likely the thing he didn't want to come out since he was well liked by his community. I feel so bad for those kids. I can only imagine what they went through.
@@seamusmcarthur666yes $sally2boo
@@kaylieesquivel4574 your cousin has had a traumatic life. By extension, so have you. Witnessing abuse as a child can be just as damaging as experiencing it firsthand, and kids tend to fill in the details that adults keep from them with their imaginations. It’s all harmful for a developing brain. You are both survivors of their nightmare. Sending Prayers and wishes for continued healing to you and your family.
So, about that...
This whole family was doomed for several generations. I’m sad for all of them.
I can barely make it through this one. I’m so deeply utterly horrified. God may that little baby rest in peace 🙏
I can’t believe i cried for strangers but this story is so heart wrenching. From the mom who was raised by an alcoholic mother then being raped and pregnant at 11 y.o to the 12 y.o being abused by his stepfather to the kids having to witness a horrific scene at their young ages and finally to the boy doing what he did to his own little brother. I feel so sorry for all the kids i wish i could hug them all and fix their traumas one by one
You're an angel ❤
i hear things worse than this in my line of work and dont get emotional, but im only listening for a few minutes. hearing all the sad details and all the trauma everyone in this case suffered made me shed some tears too.
I'm just glad that the kid isn't in prison until he is 80. I mean, he seemed the product of abuse, but young enough to potentially reform and not a psychopath or anything like that per se. It seemed a disservice to end the video with an ominous tone about him being a barber. It seems more sensationalist rather than being any sort of sober meditation on the likelihood of recidivism in this particular case.
I cried, too.
He was also molested by his older cousin when he was 8. And was molesting his five year old half brother. Look it up.
A 12 year old is allowed to sign a form saying they understand laws most citizens do not?
Maga state
The state cares more about closing cases than any real adherence to due process. That is more clearly egregious in some cases than others, but there is a CLEAR need for reform, concerning the interrogation of minors. None of them are criminal masterminds. The cases could be closed while using ethical tactics. Most of the public seems too hungry for retribution to care.
@@LoganFarmer-ub3qp I agree. Personally, I believe much improvement is needed across the U.S. ~ Red / Blue States alike.
Supposedly 12 year olds can consent to hormones and sex changes so…
@@MichelleSPodcast Cry about it. If you’re a criminal, regardless of age you should be treated the same.
This is disgustingly sad. The mother is probably still trapped in an 10 year olds body/mind due to all the abuse and rape she endured up to and beyond that age.
Or at least part of her is stuck in that mode and the rest developed abnormally. Probably has some sort of serious personality disorder as a result too. I'm guessing NPD based on behavior.
That makes a lot of sense because I couldn’t help but to think she was a little slow.
@anuket1069 I agree. I don't feel like I would consider what happened negligence. I consider it almost a crime of ignorance and fear. She really thought that her kid would wake up on his own, especially when you consider she wasn't fully aware of what actually happened, and she was afraid to seek help because she was afraid her other kids would get taken away.
No, abuse and rape are not excuses for this shit. Plenty of people are abused and raped and turn out to raise children just fine. It’s a choice to continue the cycle of abuse. I’m so sick of people trying to use trauma to by themselves out of being a good person. I was raped and held at knifepoint by a family member when I was younger, and I raise my children just fine. Absolutely ridiculous that everybody in this comment section thinks that being traumatized is somehow a “get out of jail free” card for personal responsibility. She clearly knows that things in her house are wrong, but is more concerned with herself. That is a choice. She is a mother.
@@leafy4142exactly my thoughts they say trauma stopps the brain
Honestly it’s the pushover pow pow. As soon as he was alone you could sense his pride. So sad 7 years ain’t Evan close to the time he stole from david
Like everyone else is saying, the system failed every single person in this tragic story. They're all victims. This could've been prevented as well
It's hard , even impossible, to help those who don't want the help or change.
How do you prevent it when you got a million cases just like it? We have more to do than just overhaul DCF.
@corrinehoward1999 we have to look out for each other. We all have a bigger part to play in the world than just surviving.
@@chuly4541idk this circumstance seems a bit shaky.. as a kid who grows up in those types of environments they don’t think certain things are wrong or not ok until someone tells them.. so , how could you want help if you don’t know you need it?
the pain that poor baby was subjected to for years is so absolutely heartbreaking
Absolutely heartbreaking 💔
I started to ask which one but I realize you’re talking about poor little David. But unfortunately, at one time, Binanella and Christian were also abused babies. I still think they deserved their punishment though.
@@ManagingMyLife82 Why do you think Christian deserved to sit in prison for 7 years? He was neglegted by his mom, who was neglegted by her own mom, and then physically abused by his step dad. In the interview it was clear he had the mind of a 7 to 8 years old. He never got the chance to experience normal human behavior interactions. How does he deserve emprisonment as punishment over therapy and finally getting a life worth living? That's fucked up!
@@nervsoulyjuvenile Detention isn’t prison Bozo. It really doesn’t matter because he still killed somebody.
@@nervsoulyTotally agree . I feel terrible for Cristian too .
The stepdad definitely called this murderer kid a pushover
I peeped
Absolutely. And probably said it with a punch too 😢
@@TheStar798most likely with two punches based on his statement and motions. This is probably exactly what happened when he had to get surgery from the abuse before the step dad killed himself.
Bingo
@@KingskidAsh Good point!
Thank you for sharing such high-quality content!
We live in a country where a pregnant 11 year old is put into the same orphan system when 15 as they’re four year old child, where said child is abused on multiple occasions. We need better social services and im tired of my tax money going to corporate bailouts and corrupt politicians
this!!🙌 in most cases I've seen I could not care less for the parents; they're to blame for the child's behaviour. But 11 years old is not a "parent"; That is a child themselves. This poor woman had her childhood taken away from her.
I'm shocked that she had custody of any of these kids, but the fact that she was 11 when she had Christian is unbelievable 😳.
She should have had support from the beginning. Maybe she wouldnt have ended up with an abuser.
she’s obviously a child mentally, it’s devastating.
David was a toddler.
I think you mean Cristan, but yes it's incredibly tragic
This is nuts
It’s wild to see the detective grilling her about letting the 12 year old babysit. She was 11 when she was a mother.
That’s cops for you
Not to mention keeping the 12 year old up all night and interrogating and manipulating him like he's grown
@@emily-8252 If his brother was that bad off, they needed to know what happened as soon as possible to help him. I know the kid is exhausted but if the doctors know what happened, they can better treat his brother.
@@mercuryfever392 That's not an effective way to get the truth from a child. Hell, half the time it's not an effective way to get the truth from an adult. Do you really think all of those injuries were caused by two head pushes into a shelf? That traumatized baby coped by traumatizing another baby and they punished him for it as if he was a healthy, competent adult. I'm never gonna understand how that's justice.
@@emily-8252 yeah, as @Squidgawddd96 said, that’s cops for you.
That detective lady is a badass
I believe that when Christian said, “David is the pushover,” and then “pow pow,” he wanted David to feel like he did when his stepfather was beating him. He felt like the pushover and weak when his stepfather was beating him. To stop feeling like the pushover, he had to be the one doing the pushing, and it made him feel strong when he did it.
I don't think he is a bad person.
He needed therapy, and unfortunately, he didn't get that.
He was tasked with caring for his siblings while his mom wasn't home instead of getting the help he needed. But he knew what he was doing when he was hurting David
(I don't think he knew he would kill him), but he knew what he was doing was wrong and deserved his sentence. All the children, including the mom, need to be in therapy.
He's a sociopath in the making. He IS a bad kid, but there's a justification to his madness.
not everyone who does something bad is a sociopath omfg. he doesn't even speak like someone who's a sociopath and he was literally crying over what he did. please get real.
@@pandaaachu thank you for saying this. Seriously, people need to actually think before they say something.
@marydavis3565 if he was a sociopath, he would have had a psych-evaluation while in prison and it would have been mentioned in the video. These guys do a really great job at guving us all the facts in their videos. You can't just psychoanalyse someone from a 40 minute video. That's not how it works. Also, sociopaths don't cry for their victims.
@@marydavis3565 He is indeed similar to a sociopath and a 'bad' kid simultaneously. The madness derived from the qualifications indeed does exhibit justification, you are accurate according to my perspective.
She's forced into motherhood at 11 years old. Why wouldn't she think leaving a 12 yr old in charge of children would be ok? This entire situation is a result of the complete failure to protect the mother when she was a child.
There's no way of knowing if David would have survived even if he had immediate care.
Well at his age she already had a kid. I was left alone at home at age 10 with my 7 yo brother because our father was at work and mom wasn't around. I'm 26 now. I'm alive and well. This is not something that occurs
Probably because she was forced into adulthood as a child and no one rescued her. Victims often repeat the loop of abuse. She needed support and so did her children.
@@DoctorX-jc8cj Same. In the 80s my brothers watched me...they were 12 and 15. I was always looked after, they did EVERYTHING for me.
Agreed. But I don't think dcf would agree with that happening
Toxic culture.