It seems she cant grasp the reality of what shes done. Certain horrible events need to be seen to make the connection and not some idea of reality in ones mine.
Yes. She’s EXTREMELY dangerous. I know some people might be fooled by her innocent seeming demeanor, but it’s just a mask. Inside is a remorseless monster. No empathy.
Its been 16 years Mathew was my best friend and to hear his last moments gives me chills. I think about him every other day. The fact that our last conversation was about spending the night at each other's houses. I still carry a lot of grief My heart goes out to the family.
It’s all messy word salad in these comments anymore. Poor spelling, no punctuation, or sentence structure. Redundant repetition in word choice. Just messy clunky nonsense.
She’s murdered in 2008 at 16 years of age .. she’s 24 years old in the video! It’s now 2024 so she’d be 32 now.. this interview was done in 2016. Kind of thought Piers looked younger! 😂
I was a Police Officer for nearly 30 years. I tell you now, evil takes so many forms. Sometimes, it surprises you by appearing so normal and so reasonable it makes you question your OWN sanity.
You are so right she talks like she's in jail for something other then what she did everyone said she wanted her family Dead because her dad didn't like her boyfreind and they said after it Happened that was alsom
Her dad came to my church back in 2013 and talked about what happened. I was only 13 and it has stuck with me the past 11 years. Absolutely heart breaking.
Would you still claim "American Soil" where's not crime, land of opportunity. The water it's cleaner to drink Vs 3rd country. Taking, stolen name American. Where become by default a country from Harvard textbook
Dad's a very amazing man. I don't know many men who would be able to forgive those kids who killed his family, and to accept his daughter back into his life with such forgiveness. I do understand WHY he was able to do it - if he didn't forgive them and try to move forward with what was left of his family and his life, he probably would have gone crazy.
Yes every time he mentioned killing them she would go down a different alley and change the subject realising Piers was trying to get her on film admitting it.
@@PinkVintageNailsright? I honestly think she doesn't know why she wanted them killed. I think she doesn't have an answer to that question. She just wanted it to happen without reason.
Right? Notice how she can't even answer questions about what SHE was thinking? Instead, she says things like, "Well, from what I have been told..." So she is letting others fill in the blanks for questions she can't answer because she doesn't have any remorse at all. She can't provide reasons for what she did because none exist. She had no reason. She just wanted her family gone.
Here is the key: when asked how she feels, she shifts to how she thinks. She moves into cognitive Empathy rather than emotional empathy because she doesn’t have it. When you know you know.
Wow..this comment has not only described this woman but has made me realise this is exactly what my ex had. I thought he was empathetic but it was so surface level and never genuine or deep. I thought I was too sensitive or expected too much but this just makes so much sense now. Thank you 💖
@@WhereTheWavesAt it’s definitely a sign that somebody lacks emotional empathy because they don’t know how to respond to emotions with emotions. Therefore they go into trying to cognitively understand it. It’s definitely a red flag. If somebody is not meeting your emotions with their emotions, and if somebody is trying to cognitively respond when the issue is at the level of emotion, and response feels bad, you should go talk to a therapist about it… Better yet see if your partner can get tested to see if they have a mood disorder.
I watched a follow up on this case and Dad moved on with his new family and kids. He doesn't have a relationship with Erin anymore and accept her actions as the mastermind. He is a God fearing man and said his faith got him through.
I thought God was supposed to be good. Why would we fear a good person or entity? I just can't accept sky man. You're on your own. There is no sky man. Your thoughts of sky man are in your own head. That's the only place sky man exists - in your head.
I think she thinks taking responsibility will really get her to see herself for who she really doesn't want to admit she is. I believe she also thinks there might be new consequences if she admits and takes responsibility whatever those consequences may be. It's such a devastating story, so sad and just so heart breaking 😢.
Agree. She doesn´t say that she is sorry because she isn´t. Psychopaths never are. Never feel remorse. The only thing she is sorry about is that she got caught and has to live in prison.
Dude… I can’t even imagine. That guy lost his entire family in a matter of seconds. So heart breaking. Not sure how people continue in life after such destruction.
I've lost 3 sons and my husband. I ask myself everyday how I'm still here. I don't understand any of it. It's Lia dream I cannot wake up from. It's all so unbelievable
@francesmartel7948 I tried to end my life for several months after loosing 3 sons and my husband. It didn't work. Here I am, still wondering what happened and why... and how I'm even still here
When he asks her if she feels guilty for what the boyfriends family is going through, had she not pushed him into all of this, her reply, "I never really thought about that." - She's been in for 8 years (I think?) and hasn't "thought" about that? She doesn't belong in jail, she belongs in 24 hour care with padded rooms and round the clock mental therapy. She is as lost as she was the day she checked in, absolutely clueless.
She doesn't come off as very intelligent to me, she seems to struggle even understanding what exactly he's asking her at times. Then again maybe playing dumb is part of her evil genius
Because maybe for her - it’s that the only thing she did wrong - and she can’t admit it was wrong - is that she loved her father. Maybe He didn’t want her to date anyone. But he made it seem like it was her mother who was the problem for her. Maybe He didn’t want his wife and other kids to live. Maybe he manipulated her through love bombing into all of this for him. And she’s covering him. That’s why she’s not admitting. And to her, she.s not liking. Because it was him not her. And she still loves him. That’s sick too but I don’t see that father was investigated properly. The fact that he wasn’t killed should’ve put him on a list of suspects. Did anyone ever ask her what her relationship was with her father???
Even people we deem evil usually always have at least “some” good in them. Just like people we label as good also have some bad in them, the inverse of that statement is also true.
This interview is old for the ones that dont know. The father now knows his daughter was the mastermind and accepted it. He is married now with 4 new children. Him and Erin are not close anymore
Charlie Wilkinson showed more remorse and feeling than Erin ever could dream of. I’ve yet to see her shed tears. I wish Pierce or someone would interview Charlie Wilkinson. The truth lies with him. He may have been the trigger but Erin was the rigger.
How do you know? Judging someone you do not know is no better? She seemed to have regret of what she did, but there is nothing she can do to undo her past, so she has to accept it, move on adn I hope she will repent.... Good on her dad for forgiving her and her ex.... It must have been extremely hard. I just hope she will ask for forgiveness and turn to Jesus Christ.
She doesnt regret it because she feels bad for what she did. She regrets it because she lost people she could rely on and not in prison. She said tgis herself she "I had it all" she is a physcopath she cant reflect or change. Only God himself could do that. Judging is normal everybody jusges people everyday We are human @@jdm3111
@@jdm3111 Jesus christ has nothing to do with it. Erin is a psychopath and because of that she is unable to to experience emotions such as regret, there is no deeper reflection. Look up psychopath, it's a scientific /medical term.
@@Kindheart93 I have two sons, grown sons, and I ADORE them. With my entire being. If they did this to our family, either one of them, I would not be capable of looking at them. I would hold them in my heart for the baby I’d had, the son I’d had, but I’d never forgive them. Ever!
It's people just like her walking around free that lack remorse or empathy, this second sentence you said is 100% true! They're on jobs with vulnerable people. It's both scary and disgusting
@@GizmoRob176 and the crime she committed is made that much worse by the fact it was against her own family. Someone that could do that cannot be trusted ever again.
@@bouviji583do you know what feminism even means? Equality. Equal rights for all which means women and men, all genders, who commit horrible crimes should have sentences that fit the crimes. Feminists do not support her.
This was such a horrific morning and I was so connected to this in so many ways. I was working on the trauma team in Tyler when Terry came in. The family were my parents neighbors. The county sheriff was my cousin and one of the murderers was the son of another nurse I worked with for years in the ER. It was awful.
I lost my mom to cancer at a young age I was 15. 42 years later I still cry thinking of my loss of her. How can someone that lost almost their entire family, sit there and not shed one tear.
Don't be too quick to sympathize with the father. He may have partially (indirectly)caused her actions and is guilt ridden. Remember Jeffrey Dahmer's parents? I have personally experienced fathers having this mind set. Young woman are little flowers that need nourishment or they wilt. You will probably never know the whole truth.
My dad arrested all of them. They were found in a trailer house right down the road from my house. And Erin was hiding under a pile of clothes saying she was kidnapped which was not the case. Charlie used to go fishing with my brother. Growing up with Charlie, he was always so polite and very respectful and never showed any aggression. But I suppose looks can be deceiving. My dad who is the Chief Deputy (Kurt Fischer) is in this interview. After all these years, this still affects my town and it’s not a topic we like discussing. Erin is the epitome of evil.
Imagine raising your own killer, that breaks my heart! Every sleepless night, every tough stage that's comes with having a baby, all for nothing. Also every beautiful moment, every loveable moment, every hug, every kiss from ur child, all went away like it meant nothing. What a tremendous betrayal.
No, he's not. What looks to you like empathy and forgiveness is weakness. The inability to set boundaries and consequences for his daughter (even after she planned the death of her own family) resulted in this. His weakness created this situation. The girl meeting a delinquent bad boy (who displayed what she perceived as alpha characteristics her father never could) was the catalyst.
The weirdest thing to me is why the other guy and his girlfriend got involved? You can kind of understand the 2 in love crazy teens doing this but why would the other guy take part? How did any of them think they would get away with it?
@@shooter77us not necessarily. she could've been born that way and no parenting style would have prevented her eventual genes from expressing themselves
@@shooter77us You may be completely right or you may also be completely wrong. Psychopaths simply "are" and depending on the individual and circumstances, dangerous behaviors can sometimes be curtailed and sometimes not.
My own daughter got involved with a sociopath at age 16. Her first boyfriend...she was always the "chubby girl" in school and bullied. Luckily, a local police officer made contact with me and clued me in to his real character. We withdrew her from school, tossed her in the car for a "forgotten dental appointment," and drove her two states away to her grandparents.
Yes! In the final questions especially, you could practically see the wheels turning inside her head: 'Which answers would hinder my appeal or contradict what I've already said?'
Being in a penitentiary full of manipulative , criminal thinkers will also further develop this character trait. After 42 years in there, she will be someone that everybody should steer clear of, especially the father
Well she has been locked up for several years and has done multiple interviews. She's been through the wringer before, so she has now perfected her responses. She knows just what to say. This is not her first rodeo. Plus, she is little and could be considered cute. So she has probably gotten away with quite a bit.
She half smiled knowing she had power to stop her mother and brothers death, realized it and started acting sad. This is all an act. What a psychopath!
Poor father, when he is talking about the letter of his wife when she said you are a hero my heart.. that broke my heart as a father, the pain this man had and still has ...
@user-xw6mm6cd5h There are Demonic Monsters disguised as human beings in this realm we find ourselves living in. We fight against invisible Demonic powers devoid of conscience.
Yes but haven't you ever done things that you look back and say "that wasn't me"? Murdering your family is obviously a different level of that. I'm just thinking that I have done things that I couldn't believe that I did, even little things, not mistakes, but faulty reasoning, was in a weird mindset somehow. Maybe sometimes the mind gets a glitch in it, like a computer, and it can lead down some paths that seem right in the moment. Sorry. I am rambling in the YT comment section again.
Please watch DOMINION the documentary if you really want to know just how horrifying the human race can be. Individuals can make a difference, but most people don't want to make the easy change because the pull to be "normal" is too strong
Christians don't like to think a 4'11" blonde 16 year old girl is evil. She's makes a point of saying she's Christian. They were also home schooled - what was that about
Don’t remember the exact wording but there’s a quote that this case reminds me of it. It’s something like “claiming you are a good person/Christian just because you attend church is the equivalent of standing in a garage and calling yourself a car. “
What is the nature vs nurture mix for this young lady to be a psychopath? It seems like she was raised in a decent home, but has zero remorse/empathy and appears to be a pathological liar.
She’s absolutely void of sorrow for the loss of her family…whether or not she was responsible. This absence of sorrow speaks volumes about the core or her character.
i agree, did you see how she was all smiles and laughter talking about what she was going to do when she got out. Right after the very serious question about does she feel responsible for Charlie being in prison, because if not for her he wouldn’t have been…Her answer…she never thought of that before… Like what?? I would be thinking about all the families I ruined putting this into motion!
I believe the father is feeling “Survivors Guilt” and PTSD. The first purpose of a man is to protect his family. He is hurting bad that he couldn’t save anyone. What a heartbreaker.
There are some stories about dear old dad in more recent light. Dear old dad was remarried pretty quick. He was also embezzling money and making money off fraudulent GoGundMe’s and such. The religion card sure seems to apply sometimes. I never trust any religious zealots.
@@cherylbritt7227 Just because he married again soon after doesn't make him a bad guy. I wouldn't expect the Man to be alone forever. Also, I imagine Gofundmes were set up in his name due to all that he had lost. I would have to know more than that to decide he's a bad guy.
I just made a comment that’s almost identical to yours. I agree completely that the trauma of outliving your family as a father & the instinctual drive to protect your family has to be an overwhelming. It prevents him from healing & from accepting the truth about his daughter. PTSD treatment is crucial.
@@cherylbritt7227it’s NOT noteworthy that he remarried soon. Most men marry within a year or less. They don’t like being alone after a death or divorce.
I listened to a post from a military psyops guy, now a neuroscientist. He watched the interview from Dr. Phil at 5 AM and said it creeped him out so much he had to turn the lights on.
I lost a brother in a house fire, I was 5 and remember vividly telling my parents if they’re not gonna jump neither will I. There was my parents and 6 other siblings. This has me in tears thinking of my own experience and the forgiveness this man has. God Bless him.
I am so happy that her father has another chance to share his amazing heart with another family...what a beautiful human! I sincerely hope the rest of his life will be a comfort and a deep blessing.
@@TaraConti i think at that time it was his original. He had later pretty much broken contact ( or reduced contact ) with this one & began to build a new life..
I've lost a pet and can't dare imagine getting another ever again and that's because loss can be elaborated on the cognitive level but emotionally it leaves scars, literally anyone with whatever degree of emotional capacity and loss experience knows it on some level. That man lost his entire family that was killed by his own daughter and yet he now has a new family and kids... Do you genuinely believe that anyone experiencing regular and even enhanced emotional capacity would be able to make a new family after something like that? I am not making a negative judging point about his heart but rather considering that traumatic events make people's emotions go off and he doesn't seem to be an exception so I sincerely wish him good too but I don't understand how you can consider the fact that he had more kids as an inherently positive thing both for him and for the kids.
What a superior interview by Pierce Morgan...able to maintain the fine line of human compassion with inate repulsion...able to interject those spontaneous shifts to double-back for an answer each time his subject would vear off his initial interrogatories. Most tactful and professional interview ever.
@@seanstipsky9473 Whilst what she did was indeed monstrous, it was still an undeveloped mind at the time, suggesting that she's still "processing" isn't entirely unrealistic, there definitely would be trauma involved from her own PTSD there / protective barrier she's installed for herself. You can shape someone's entire life based off their teenage years of experience, so this is the world that she's molded for herself - so yeah to me it's not an unreasonable response.
People are wayyyyy too trusting. She killed her entier family and yet people actually listen to a word she has to say as though it could be something that isn't a lie or manipulation. Americans are too into the whole under-dog / anti-hero trope. Probably something that losers love to eat up.
@@dustywoood Fortunately, that doesn't matter much regarding this case. Seems like all of a sudden, people started repeating that the brain isn't fully developed until you're 26 yo, as if they all read the same Newsweek article. I'm not denying that it may be true, however, if we're going to take that into consideration, then it needs to be done across the board. Otherwise, it's just a convenient excuse. If people under 26 can't be trusted to make sound decisions, then maybe we should change the age of legal adulthood to 26, or make it illegal to get married or have children under the age of 26.
@@1w598Right. And in this case, she actually is 26 when sitting there being interviewed, yet she still cannot explain or express what really happened...She most likely never will, she's a psychopath. I think people have a hard time grasping that, due to her slightly "innocent" features (yet I find her evil looking, it's something in the eyes)
This woman is mad scary . She takes no ownership over her actions, no responsibility whatsoever. And she doesn’t ever answer piers questions without stopping and starting and not really answering them unless it’s in a roundabout way. She’s terrifying!!!
I think it's because she KNOWS her Dad will be watching and she doesn't want to admit to him that she was indeed the Mastermind behind the whole thing!!!! I think she fears that if her Dad knows the Truth that he'll walk away from her but even if she tell him the Entire Truth he'll NEVER walk away from her because she's all he's got left!!!! It's Saddd Really!!!! Her Dad Deserves the TRUTH Tho!!!!!
Yes, I agree, sooo frustrating to watch! Every time she was speaking in this video I had to resist the temptation to fast-forward through those scenes, because she was so upsetting to me. And her voice sounds like a little girl. A psychotic, demented, manipulative, narcissistic little girl - like something out of a horror movie. And when she refers to the “other ladies” in the prison with her, as if she’s talking about a tea party or book club, it made me want to throw up.
@@randyerickson2568 yawn, everyone these days thinks they know narcissistic sociopaths when you likely have no basis for that and simply just dislike the person. those terms are grossly overused and misused.
It's so sad to hear the father still trying to shift the blame, he still cannot believe in his heart that his daughter was capable of masterminding this whole thing.
Notice how she tears up when it’s about her and doesn’t cry when it’s about her family. She doesn’t comprehend the love of her father. Doesn’t seem to appreciate him at all.
This disturbed me greatly, not only does she have the ability to detach herself from the atrocity of this crime, but has seemingly detached herself from the person responsible, "herself ", dissociative personality disorder? She should never be released, and her father will rot in that trailer trying to find excuses for why she did it. He knows she's responsible, he's clinging to all he has left, her and the last place he was before he lost his entire family. Perhaps he feels a degree of responsibility for not getting her some help prior, I don't know if even this would have made a difference given the girls unwillingness to reflect deeply.
He needs to move on and give himself a second chance of finding love and happiness, rather than clinging to his perpetrator daughter, who is an empty shell incapable of remourse, empathy and love. The emotions that define us as human beings, and seperate us from the rest of the animal kingdom. I'm going to pray that the father finds his 2nd chance to be truly happy once again. ❤
Her little brothers though. Thats what gets me, she's not mourning them or showing any remorse or regret. Its mind boggling to me. Those poor babies. 😢
@@Wrong.one.again.people have free will, and evil exists, and mistakes are made all the time. You can’t blame God for that. All the more reason to lean on Him, and seek His wisdom and truth.
This is what Piers should stick with, interviewing murders, instead of Hollywood and Royal gossip. The interview was interesting and this really his cup of tea.
The Parole Board will make the decision of letting her out and they’ll see this little interview and her lack of remorse and lack of accountability for her actions and they won’t let her out. It won’t surprise me though if the Dad doesn’t petition the board to let her out. Don’t blame him too hard…..she’s the only family he has. And that’s all he’s seeing.
His daughter is EVIL for the simple fact that she's still pretending to be a sweet, innocent girl. There's no remorse as she hasn't owned up to the truth.
It is possible she is not pretending to be a sweet innocent girl, it could be that the trauma of what she did has prevented her from moving past her 16 year old self. She was not capable in the interview at 24 to admit her involvement to the extent it was. She is now 32 and good chance she still portrays her 16 year old self. She may be ruined for life with no future of moving past what she did.
@divergentone7491 I agree. Likely she was not allowed at the funerals, which would also further stunt her. How old was the boyfriend? Does anyone know?
There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with this child!!! She should NEVER be release! Hats off to her father for forgiving her - he’s a better person than most!
She is not a child anymore, she just uses that child little voice because that is what this kind of woman do , if you speak like a child you can’t do bad.
While I empathize with the father, I feel like he is running away from some truth he doesn't want to admit about his daughter. I feel like he forgave her on a lie. Forgiveness is only pure when is based on truth and I feel like both the father and the daughter do not want to admit the truth. It's like the father has a dark room he doesn't want to go in, and to sleep at night he keeps telling himself that room doesn't exist.
Agreed. Takes alot more energy to hate someone thn to let it go. Doesnt mean u forget. My not letting hatred torture your soul only you hv control over that.
I've watched a lot of videos about this case and each time I learn something new but this one hit a lil different because this is the first time I actually got to hear the father's reaction when he found out that his daughter was involved in everything that happened and when he broke down and started crying my heart broke and I started crying. I can't even imagine what he was thinking or feeling in that moment.
I feel like she doesn't publicly show emotion but she did express remorse. Her ex boyfriend and his friends , Charles, Charlie and Bob are the people her dad saw w/ guns and samurai sword... but yes I haven't watched this the whole way through yet.
I have absolutely no doubt that she spearheaded all these plans. The fact that her therapist said that she was a dangerous person, is super telling. On top of this, she couldn't even be bothered to give us an idea of what responsibility she's going to take for these crimes because assuming responsibility, also infers culpability. If she takes responsibility, that's an admission of guilt, something she is not willing to do. I know without a doubt that she was the one who orchestrated everything, and I feel nothing but complete and utter pity for her father, who literally had everything ripped away from him by his psychopath daughter. May she never get out of jail, and rot for the rest of her life
It's insane how the two guys got life without parole while the ladies got away with much less. Why? Erin Caffey should never be let out. Way too dangerous...
Males get 7 times stiffer punishment than females for doing the same crime. It's how our justice system is set up. That must change. Shes just as evil and dangerous but bc shes a female shes viewed as less responsible and less dangerous.
Hearing a man cry like her father did when he found out his daughter did it is one of the saddest sounds you can ever hear. When a man cries that type of cry his soul is in more pain than he can bear.
So, how did she actually do it? When humans are angry for silly things, we do say things which we don't really mean, in the heat of the anger. The fact some uneducated youth took her words literally, again is very tragic. This was preventable had those boys been not so neglected in upbringing. So, much so, they could not separate bad from good?Sad case. But let this woman not rot in prison. It won't bring the family back anyway. GOD is forgiving.
Sad the only way the dad can cope is by telling himself that his daughter wasn’t the mastermind behind it. You can tell the truth would be too much for him to accept especially with her being the only family he has left.
I feel so bad for this father. You lost 2 kids, a wife, and the only one left was the monster that caused it all. This a very strong man I don’t know how I could ever be able to take a quarter of that pain.
I feel the most bad for the 8 year old Tyler who hid in the closet and was brutally murdered after his mother was murdered, only to be butchered by these insane two boys.
Weak, not strong. He is why she turned out like this. A Father is supposed to teach conditional love. Unconditional love is from a Mother. He is not a Father, he is in fact Mothering this child. She is still a child because she has never known a Father. This is why she cannot take responseability for her actions. Her own Father cannot hold her accountable. She cannot hold herself accountable. She is still playing mind games and delusions in her head like a child.
@@ricky4673 I don't think a father can choose how his son or daughter can be, but I agree that the father of Erin and the woman who said Charlie was not evil in the video both have a responsibility too in influencing her life, but so does Charlie Wilkinson. Both the father and the woman who don't believe Charlie is evil fail in holding Erin and Charlie accountable and in that they have both failed them miserably, and there is a evil in that for sure. Yes Erin is playing mind games but it is obvious that so is Charlie and Charles. They are all coldhearted killers without care for anyone but themselves, even now none of them is evil giving a indication of feeling guilt or remorse. Truly scary.
I really encourage you to read a book about the crime, specifically the accounts from people in the community. It's not nearly as simple as this and it may change your perspective. It would be very disrespectful for me to say more, but, I promise you it's more complicated than you think.
@@jerriannhoag5842that is NOT what the OG Commenter said. They said ERIN described what she did as something equivalent as shoplifting or sneaking out. How did you misinterpret that?!
One of the most sinister killers considering how young she is/was, how she was raised, even how she looks...and the victims were her own family members...who she admitted were great and did nothing wrong...just sends chills down the spine
I'm a father and I can't imagine the pain Erin's father endured. Not only did he lose the lives of his wife and 2 boys, he also lost the soul of his daughter.
The audio of the father’s reaction after being told of the extent of his daughter’s involvement just shatters my heart… he has literally lost his whole world and you can hear it 😢
at the end of the interview when she waved back -- I dunno she acted like she couldnt wait to get back to her cell-- or maybe she was excited to talk to someone else--
That was a wonderful interview, Piers. That girl IS pure evil, even though she tries to present herself as quiet and soft spoken. She had her family killed AND she ruined the lives of three of her friends. She should be begging for forgiveness!
Who should she be begging forgiveness from?!! One...She believes she does nothing wrong. Second...There is no one...NO one...who can grant her such. Her sociopathic self believes in nothing and no one, but themselves, and what they think and do. She is the poster child/woman for the mental disorder. The father is in self preservation, so he can't end ALL his family by accepting his own daughter being the evil soul that she is, that SHE did this. So she doesn't NEED to ask forgiveness from him. She can't ask forgiveness from the dead. She doesn't need to ask forgiveness from the mothers, fathers, siblings of those she planned with. That would suggest she had power of the Devil, using coercion, by means of threats or physical attack. Those boys were evil themselves. They were not coerced. And she won't ask God for forgiveness, as nearly ALL sociopaths do not believe in a God. Who would she ask forgiveness from since she revels in her conduct, proved by her lack of culpability?! She fools no one but her self loving self! Sociopath, Psychopath, Narcissist...cold, calculating, vile.
She is indeed evil and is responsible for the killings, but she didn´t ruin the lives of her 3 friends, they ruined their own lives. If you can be talked into doing something like this, you don´t have a soul. They are just as evil as her.
No one ever wants to believe their own flesh, and blood could do this to their own families. So sad, brings me too tears. He loves his kids as mush as I do my own, and this would destroy me on the inside. 🙏🙏🙏🌹
Piers admits Rebecca Fenton might be the Best Liar he's ever met: ua-cam.com/video/3onjkL57uCk/v-deo.html
Not that it matters she is obviously a crazy cont. But why would a parent let their daughter date someone with such an age difference
It seems she cant grasp the reality of what shes done. Certain horrible events need to be seen to make the connection and not some idea of reality in ones mine.
@@mannyfragoza9652 Oh she knows trust me she just doesn't care
@@mannyfragoza9652 she has the devil in her because she takes no responsibility for her actions
Takes one to know one.
My mother always said, “ the devil isn’t wearing horns and a tail.”
He "Masquerades as an angel of light."
Woah, so deep.
Your mom was absolutely correct and that's what's blowing these folks away
My mama says that alligators are ornery... 'cause they got all them teeth but no toothbrush.
Do you mean he doesn't have them? You wouldn't wear horns and a tail. A rhino doesn't wear a horn, and my dog doesn't wear a tail.
The media needs to stop giving this girl attention.
Agree🤬
💯!! I actually want positive life giving coverage- and make it as sensationalized and 'splashy' as true crime/murderers.
She's evil
Agree . The new media will be different ....
I remember when this happened, this girl is evil… if they ever let her out will be insane … the whole lying bunch should not be able to see sunlight
She is the epitome of a psychopath. She literally has no emotions of guilt or sorrow. She doesn't FEEL.
Bingo!
Yes. She’s EXTREMELY dangerous. I know some people might be fooled by her innocent seeming demeanor, but it’s just a mask. Inside is a remorseless monster. No empathy.
Epitome.
Exactly right.
Keep her locked up. Throw away the key.
There are government officials who are just as devoid of remorse or empathy, whose choices impact millions.
Its been 16 years Mathew was my best friend and to hear his last moments gives me chills. I think about him every other day. The fact that our last conversation was about spending the night at each other's houses. I still carry a lot of grief My heart goes out to the family.
So sorry ❤
Condolences to you 😢
So sorry.
Take heart buddy.❤
Im so sorry for your loss
This girl is very sick. She shouldn't ever be released. Her poor father is in denial for self preservation.
This is what happens when you tell people education is what makes a person instead of them having a choice and evil is real
@@Neutronia1absolutely correct!!
I AGREE WITH YOUR OBSERVATION, BUT HOW LONG CAN YOU KEEP UP A FAKE FRONT.
ITS BEEN 16 YEARS NOW.
@@spirit13the1st6 she is a psychopath. They don’t change. So the answer is FOREVER.
@@vettelover695 Yeah, it's not a "fake front", it's just who she is.
she's been there for 8 years and still hasn't figured out her own consequences of what she did? no, there is no remorse that's all
That isnt what she said at all.
@@kelcritcarrollpicked the wrong word but the comment is still true
It’s all messy word salad in these comments anymore. Poor spelling, no punctuation, or sentence structure. Redundant repetition in word choice. Just messy clunky nonsense.
You are an idiot,probably a liberal always interpreting the reality wrong!!
She’s murdered in 2008 at 16 years of age .. she’s 24 years old in the video! It’s now 2024 so she’d be 32 now.. this interview was done in 2016. Kind of thought Piers looked younger! 😂
I was a Police Officer for nearly 30 years. I tell you now, evil takes so many forms.
Sometimes, it surprises you by appearing so normal and so reasonable it makes you question your OWN sanity.
Yes
THAT is the true meaning of "Shape shifting"
You are so right she talks like she's in jail for something other then what she did everyone said she wanted her family Dead because her dad didn't like her boyfreind and they said after it Happened that was alsom
As another commenter mentioned ‘the devil isn’t wearing horns and a tail’.
Unreal ! 😢
Do tell us stories! I love to hear firsthand stories, And you were a cop- So I know you have tons of stories of experiencing with evil
Her dad came to my church back in 2013 and talked about what happened. I was only 13 and it has stuck with me the past 11 years. Absolutely heart breaking.
Would you still claim "American Soil" where's not crime, land of opportunity.
The water it's cleaner to drink
Vs 3rd country.
Taking, stolen name American. Where become by default a country from Harvard textbook
So did he cut his dtr off or no?
No he did not cut her off. He said he forgives her and he still goes and sees her.
This controlling, temper prone sociopath boyfriend in combination the immature infatuated 16 year old, what a mess.
@@1Cor13.4-7 someone has a reasonable view of things at least....
Hearing dad cry after finding out her involvement breaks my heart
Me too l fell şad for the dad 😢 hit me Hard
Heartbreaking! The entire story is just so Heartbreaking. When Morgan hugs him at the end it brought a tear to my eye.
Piers is a superb interviewer.
You could hear his heart fully shatter in that one moment. I hope he finds peace and that she comes to terms with what she's done.
Dad's a very amazing man. I don't know many men who would be able to forgive those kids who killed his family, and to accept his daughter back into his life with such forgiveness. I do understand WHY he was able to do it - if he didn't forgive them and try to move forward with what was left of his family and his life, he probably would have gone crazy.
Her therapist saying "I've never come across anyone more dangerous than Erin..." speaks VOLUMESSSSSS
She’s beautiful though 🥰😍
@@Dan-tt8sn And YOU are SICK!!! Who gives a d*mnd how she looks. She is a cold-blooded murderer. Perhaps that's a turn on to you?? What a sicko!!! 😡
@@Dan-tt8sn and that's how she'll wrap her finger around you.
Imagine killing your girlfriend’s family bc you love her so much only for her to say she doesn’t love you back. lol. The boyfriend was also a victim.
@@Dan-tt8sn oh snap...........poetic justice for real
“How much responsibility do you take?”
“I’m still working on that.”
That tells us all.
Bingo.
Yes every time he mentioned killing them she would go down a different alley and change the subject realising Piers was trying to get her on film admitting it.
@@PinkVintageNailsright? I honestly think she doesn't know why she wanted them killed. I think she doesn't have an answer to that question. She just wanted it to happen without reason.
Right? Notice how she can't even answer questions about what SHE was thinking? Instead, she says things like, "Well, from what I have been told..." So she is letting others fill in the blanks for questions she can't answer because she doesn't have any remorse at all. She can't provide reasons for what she did because none exist. She had no reason. She just wanted her family gone.
😮
I don’t understand how the dad can talk about this so calmly. I‘d still be beside myself. I would never recover.
Self preservation, the mind protects us in strange ways. 😢😢😢 . He's a broken soul, that's why he's able to talk that way.😢
A person can only be broken for so long or take their own life. He is a believer, so probably God is helping him cope.
I can see the despair in his eyes and his voice. He is just trying to make it, one day at a time. He literally lost everything but his own life.
He is a broken man. He feels she is all she has left.
Bless this man’s broken soul 🙏
She should have 3 life sentences, one for each member of her family. And NEVER be paroled!
Yes, 3 life sentences not to be served concurrently. Do they not have the death penalty in her state?
@@lurettaevans1663Texas certainly has the death penalty but she was 16 at the time so not eligible for capital punishment due to her being under age.
There are worse crimes in other countries and those countries protect criminals by all means, that normal people must leave to save their lives.
@@GalacticTradingPostcalm down now, sir.
@@GalacticTradingPostreally? Even if this is a joke it isn’t funny at all. It’s disgusting. Are you 12?
Here is the key: when asked how she feels, she shifts to how she thinks. She moves into cognitive Empathy rather than emotional empathy because she doesn’t have it. When you know you know.
Wow..this comment has not only described this woman but has made me realise this is exactly what my ex had. I thought he was empathetic but it was so surface level and never genuine or deep. I thought I was too sensitive or expected too much but this just makes so much sense now. Thank you 💖
@@WhereTheWavesAt some people are more sensitive than others, especially men are not easily moved so don't be quick to judge
@@WhereTheWavesAt it’s definitely a sign that somebody lacks emotional empathy because they don’t know how to respond to emotions with emotions. Therefore they go into trying to cognitively understand it. It’s definitely a red flag. If somebody is not meeting your emotions with their emotions, and if somebody is trying to cognitively respond when the issue is at the level of emotion, and response feels bad, you should go talk to a therapist about it… Better yet see if your partner can get tested to see if they have a mood disorder.
good call! i saw it too
i dont think there is psycopathy involved in here, in my opinion is more a rancor driven crime, sociopathy if you may.
She’s a piece of work. No tears, no feelings, no remorse. Just cold. Feel so sorry for her Dad, and the pain she inflicted on the entire family.
Sound like Hillery to me.
@@dodadeb8954Hillary???
Lol..I know several females like this.
@@zuibeckpulezon4626 Sure you do.
Demonic possession is real!
I watched a follow up on this case and Dad moved on with his new family and kids. He doesn't have a relationship with Erin anymore and accept her actions as the mastermind. He is a God fearing man and said his faith got him through.
Do you know where that interview is? I’d like to see that.
Where is this interview?
I hope this is true. I know a psychopath and danger is his first name and evil is his last name.
Im glad to hear that he was able to move on and found love again and was able to have more kids. What a horrible tragedy to go through.
I thought God was supposed to be good. Why would we fear a good person or entity? I just can't accept sky man. You're on your own. There is no sky man. Your thoughts of sky man are in your own head. That's the only place sky man exists - in your head.
No normal 16 year old can be “manipulated” into killing their mother and 2 brothers. She’s mentally disturbed. Ice cold.
She’s not disturbed. Thats the issue
@@JDiggiti Can you please explain? Honestly want to understand your perspective.
Ice cold like her eye makeup ❄️
@@JDiggiti
She’s disturbed. A typical Psychopath.
I agree with you she should rot in prison 👿👎
The fact that she still won't take responsibility is frightening.
Just like a woman...
Is it?
Or is there something else going on?...
@@Add_Account485 It means killing is acceptable behavior for her.
Another Gypsy 🥀 ? Perhaps, I hope it doesn’t become a trend
I think she thinks taking responsibility will really get her to see herself for who she really doesn't want to admit she is. I believe she also thinks there might be new consequences if she admits and takes responsibility whatever those consequences may be. It's such a devastating story, so sad and just so heart breaking 😢.
She cannot say she is sorry. Not one word about her brothers. COLD
Agree. She doesn´t say that she is sorry because she isn´t. Psychopaths never are. Never feel remorse. The only thing she is sorry about is that she got caught and has to live in prison.
Sick!
She is a piece of work
She still hates them. And still hates her parents as well.
No empathy, already thinking about her next move, next thing to do when she goes back to her complex. Almost Skips when she walks off.
Dude… I can’t even imagine. That guy lost his entire family in a matter of seconds. So heart breaking. Not sure how people continue in life after such destruction.
Me too ; I don’t know how the Dad can just go on living after this.
@@francesmartel7948he believes in god and suicide is a sin
I've lost 3 sons and my husband. I ask myself everyday how I'm still here. I don't understand any of it. It's Lia dream I cannot wake up from. It's all so unbelievable
@francesmartel7948 I tried to end my life for several months after loosing 3 sons and my husband. It didn't work. Here I am, still wondering what happened and why... and how I'm even still here
@@taradickey1I am truly really sorry 😢 about what happened to you and what you’re still going through. 🫂
I love that Piers forces her to clarify what exactly she's taking responsibility for and she's completely stumped. What a nightmare of a human being.
When he asks her if she feels guilty for what the boyfriends family is going through, had she not pushed him into all of this, her reply, "I never really thought about that." - She's been in for 8 years (I think?) and hasn't "thought" about that? She doesn't belong in jail, she belongs in 24 hour care with padded rooms and round the clock mental therapy. She is as lost as she was the day she checked in, absolutely clueless.
She doesn't come off as very intelligent to me, she seems to struggle even understanding what exactly he's asking her at times. Then again maybe playing dumb is part of her evil genius
Yeah really dumb clueless and disconnected sadly horrible@@thebrotherhood6391
Because maybe for her - it’s that the only thing she did wrong - and she can’t admit it was wrong - is that she loved her father. Maybe He didn’t want her to date anyone. But he made it seem like it was her mother who was the problem for her. Maybe He didn’t want his wife and other kids to live. Maybe he manipulated her through love bombing into all of this for him. And she’s covering him. That’s why she’s not admitting. And to her, she.s not liking. Because it was him not her. And she still loves him. That’s sick too but I don’t see that father was investigated properly. The fact that he wasn’t killed should’ve put him on a list of suspects. Did anyone ever ask her what her relationship was with her father???
@@Swan.princess бред какой-то
Sitting there with those ice cold eyes singing “Amazing Grace.” Absolutely unbelievable.
She's had all the emotions for years, you get to a point where you have to step back and stop feeling or you die. Self preservation after major trauma
Even people we deem evil usually always have at least “some” good in them. Just like people we label as good also have some bad in them, the inverse of that statement is also true.
With those fake eyelashes 🤨🙄🙄🙄
@@Alex-sr3ez
How can he ask her to sing. Amazing grace . And she had no remorse. Pierce how did you afterwards
This interview is old for the ones that dont know. The father now knows his daughter was the mastermind and accepted it. He is married now with 4 new children. Him and Erin are not close anymore
Thank you, your follow up information is very helpful!
Thanks for the update! Very important information
I’d be terrified if I was the new family thinking what may happen when Erin finally gets out of prison then 😢
O my, thank u for the update. I'm shocked he had more children after that. Ion think I could do it anymore....
The Father recovered enough to go on and replace his murdered family...got it.
Charlie Wilkinson showed more remorse and feeling than Erin ever could dream of. I’ve yet to see her shed tears. I wish Pierce or someone would interview Charlie Wilkinson. The truth lies with him. He may have been the trigger but Erin was the rigger.
But…he killed two kids!!! One with a knife while the boy was hiding in a closet
@@headsupwildlifeI thought it was the other boy that killed the kids
The other boy killed the older kid and Charlie killed the youngest. Stabbed him while he was hiding in a closet.
*Piers Morgan*
Boom that last part
I think the sweet little girl voice is her greatest achievement in persuading people she isn’t what she is.
and the fact t that she's young and pretty. can easily manipulate everyone around her with these attributes
@@craazyyy_gigi50"pretty" is relative.
Like what Gypsy Rose tries to do
Being 4’11 played into the cards as well.
Her getting the chance to sing Amazing Grace irks me. It's often sung at a funeral so it was calculating that she is known to sing it.
This is how the real monster looks like. No emotions, no regrets or deeper reflection
How do you know? Judging someone you do not know is no better? She seemed to have regret of what she did, but there is nothing she can do to undo her past, so she has to accept it, move on adn I hope she will repent.... Good on her dad for forgiving her and her ex.... It must have been extremely hard. I just hope she will ask for forgiveness and turn to Jesus Christ.
She doesnt regret it because she feels bad for what she did. She regrets it because she lost people she could rely on and not in prison. She said tgis herself she "I had it all" she is a physcopath she cant reflect or change. Only God himself could do that. Judging is normal everybody jusges people everyday We are human @@jdm3111
Was she born monster? Or has she become a monster?
@@jdm3111 Jesus christ has nothing to do with it. Erin is a psychopath and because of that she is unable to to experience emotions such as regret, there is no deeper reflection. Look up psychopath, it's a scientific /medical term.
@@Dez-humano She has a damaged amygdala, or a malfunctioning amygdala. That doesn't ever become a repaired amygdala.
This poor man, his pain is beyond comprehension. Prayers for his healing and comfort.
He is a better person than me !!!!
Amen!
I understand this father. I love my son no matter what. I can't not do that.
@@Kindheart93 I have two sons, grown sons, and I ADORE them. With my entire being. If they did this to our family, either one of them, I would not be capable of looking at them. I would hold them in my heart for the baby I’d had, the son I’d had, but I’d never forgive them. Ever!
Listening to the father break down sobbing when he is told of his daughter's involvement is heart-wrenching.
The fact that she still lies 8 years later is amazing to me. Some people are just incapable of remorse and empathy.
Classic psychopath.
Yea psychopaths
Shes NEVER being released. She's evil
It's people just like her walking around free that lack remorse or empathy, this second sentence you said is 100% true! They're on jobs with vulnerable people. It's both scary and disgusting
She's saving her father another round of pain as long as he can fool himself about her.
I hope and pray that the parole board NEVER, EVER, lets her out of prison. She is evil.
no no no no. I disagree.
they should let her out when she's 90.
Her sentence was set at 42 years in prison. The two guys got life sentences without parole.
@@GizmoRob176 and the crime she committed is made that much worse by the fact it was against her own family. Someone that could do that cannot be trusted ever again.
she will very likely be paroled at the first hearing. the granting of parole is *usually* based on the behavior behind bars, not the crime itself.
Pubescent actions with devastating consequences. It has nothing much to do with evil.
She shares more compassion for the boyfriend serving life than her innocent family. Keep her there.
Feminists support her
@@bouviji583do you know what feminism even means? Equality. Equal rights for all which means women and men, all genders, who commit horrible crimes should have sentences that fit the crimes. Feminists do not support her.
Amen
She is a real unempathetic psychopath.
@@bouviji583we don’t claim her, incel
This was such a horrific morning and I was so connected to this in so many ways.
I was working on the trauma team in Tyler when Terry came in. The family were my parents neighbors. The county sheriff was my cousin and one of the murderers was the son of another nurse I worked with for years in the ER.
It was awful.
So sorry man
geez, the ripples of pain and devastation go far and wide, so sorry!
Not about you.. just f.y.i
The father is the hero of this story. He deserves our empathy and grace. I pray for his healing.
I do to!
I feel so sad for him.😢.
I feel the same way 😢
He is in denial. Needs to accept that his daughter is a psychopath & used those bous sadly
I agree he is in total denial. It kind of made me nauseous.
I lost my mom to cancer at a young age I was 15. 42 years later I still cry thinking of my loss of her. How can someone that lost almost their entire family, sit there and not shed one tear.
So sorry for your loss, you had to go through at such a young age 😓 God bless you 🙏🏻❤️
Maybe he did it
Because she's different. She's not you and her brain doesn't work the way your brain works.
I know exactly how you feel. Same on the age of loss and now. I still cry or wish she was here for big life events.
Lost my dad to cancer 34 years ago when I was 7. I still cry for him.
Bless that poor, broken hearted father. He has shown so much courage and generosity in his forgiveness, it is truly remarkable
He thinks its the boyfriend is evil well its not always that. She wanted a boyfriend.. just let her
Knowing that she Will be judged, God see all
Don't be too quick to sympathize with the father. He may have partially (indirectly)caused her actions and is guilt ridden. Remember Jeffrey Dahmer's parents? I have personally experienced fathers having this mind set. Young woman are little flowers that need nourishment or they wilt. You will probably never know the whole truth.
I got an ad to support gaza... I'm out
@@ChrisBInPhillywell said.
My dad arrested all of them. They were found in a trailer house right down the road from my house. And Erin was hiding under a pile of clothes saying she was kidnapped which was not the case.
Charlie used to go fishing with my brother. Growing up with Charlie, he was always so polite and very respectful and never showed any aggression. But I suppose looks can be deceiving.
My dad who is the Chief Deputy (Kurt Fischer) is in this interview.
After all these years, this still affects my town and it’s not a topic we like discussing.
Erin is the epitome of evil.
Imagine raising your own killer, that breaks my heart! Every sleepless night, every tough stage that's comes with having a baby, all for nothing. Also every beautiful moment, every loveable moment, every hug, every kiss from ur child, all went away like it meant nothing. What a tremendous betrayal.
Exactly
She didn't even get Life sentence??? Will be out in her 60s? That's unbelievable... what kind of a judge is that
Evil exists
Couldnt have said it better
@vultur311 they said that's the minimum. Hopefully they see she's crazy and keep her. Unfortunately we all know she will be out
This girl is showing no remorse,no emotion,no empathy,no culpability….a true psychopath! She should never be let out!.
Her dad is an amazing man.❤
I was thinking the same, she seems cold, detached and not regretful.
No, he's not. What looks to you like empathy and forgiveness is weakness. The inability to set boundaries and consequences for his daughter (even after she planned the death of her own family) resulted in this. His weakness created this situation. The girl meeting a delinquent bad boy (who displayed what she perceived as alpha characteristics her father never could) was the catalyst.
The weirdest thing to me is why the other guy and his girlfriend got involved? You can kind of understand the 2 in love crazy teens doing this but why would the other guy take part? How did any of them think they would get away with it?
@@shooter77us not necessarily. she could've been born that way and no parenting style would have prevented her eventual genes from expressing themselves
@@shooter77us You may be completely right or you may also be completely wrong. Psychopaths simply "are" and depending on the individual and circumstances, dangerous behaviors can sometimes be curtailed and sometimes not.
It is easier for Terry to blame the boyfriend than it is to admit the flesh of his flesh, the blood of his blood, is evil.
Well , he was responsible too . Decapitating the mother takes a lot of evil .
He realized that she, the daughter is everything he got left.
@@tekfunk6299He remarried. He can still keep in touch with her, but he needs to face the truth also.
@@BlackStump172 they were all responsible. It doesn’t take away from the fact that this girl had a huge hand in this shameful
@@kathleenp9643 She manipulated the others .
My own daughter got involved with a sociopath at age 16. Her first boyfriend...she was always the "chubby girl" in school and bullied. Luckily, a local police officer made contact with me and clued me in to his real character. We withdrew her from school, tossed her in the car for a "forgotten dental appointment," and drove her two states away to her grandparents.
You're a great mother.❤
I am upset after watching this, this young woman deserve life with no parole.
Me too! So evil woman
Absolutely
shes mastered answering questions with vague answers, definitely a criminal mind
I also noticed
Her attorneys have most likely taught her that.
Yes! In the final questions especially, you could practically see the wheels turning inside her head: 'Which answers would hinder my appeal or contradict what I've already said?'
Being in a penitentiary full of manipulative , criminal thinkers will also further develop this character trait. After 42 years in there, she will be someone that everybody should steer clear of, especially the father
Well she has been locked up for several years and has done multiple interviews. She's been through the wringer before, so she has now perfected her responses. She knows just what to say. This is not her first rodeo. Plus, she is little and could be considered cute. So she has probably gotten away with quite a bit.
She half smiled knowing she had power to stop her mother and brothers death, realized it and started acting sad. This is all an act. What a psychopath!
Yes. You could see it in her face so clearly. She was clearly delighted by this thought. For second you could see a glimpse of the monster she is.
@@truthseeker6584 Monsters exist and she is the proof.
@@piotrekski-420 So true!
interesting. that little smirk arrested and suppressed. I didn't realize it was actually glee that had to hidden.
I saw her do that a few times. She is very convincing until you see that little smile...
Poor father, when he is talking about the letter of his wife when she said you are a hero my heart.. that broke my heart as a father, the pain this man had and still has ...
She seems to be cold hearted with no remorse, no compassion for her family
I think she's just a bit dim. Her IQ is probably really low
She is a Psychopath that's why. Psychos dont feel emotions of remorse. Not aware she did a horrible crime
@user-xw6mm6cd5h
There are Demonic Monsters disguised as human beings in this realm we find ourselves living in. We fight against invisible Demonic powers devoid of conscience.
She fits the definition of a psychopath. That's for sure.
I got that exact feeling as well.
I'm still blown away by how horrifying people can be.
Humans are the most wretched species on the planet.
Yes but haven't you ever done things that you look back and say "that wasn't me"? Murdering your family is obviously a different level of that. I'm just thinking that I have done things that I couldn't believe that I did, even little things, not mistakes, but faulty reasoning, was in a weird mindset somehow. Maybe sometimes the mind gets a glitch in it, like a computer, and it can lead down some paths that seem right in the moment. Sorry. I am rambling in the YT comment section again.
I agree!!
Please watch DOMINION the documentary if you really want to know just how horrifying the human race can be. Individuals can make a difference, but most people don't want to make the easy change because the pull to be "normal" is too strong
Only GOD truly knows the heart of mankind.
The father would like to blame Charlie, but his daughter is evil!!!!
They’re both evil. No normal person can be manipulated into committing any crime, let alone a crime so heinous.
Christians don't like to think a 4'11" blonde 16 year old girl is evil.
She's makes a point of saying she's Christian.
They were also home schooled - what was that about
Soulless
typical male reaction
@@gobblelevclass3nuclearsubm393, what a strange comment. 😵💫😵💫
Don’t remember the exact wording but there’s a quote that this case reminds me of it. It’s something like
“claiming you are a good person/Christian just because you attend church is the equivalent of standing in a garage and calling yourself a car. “
She’s not capable of loving anyone. A shell of a woman that took the lives of 3 people that were able to love . Beyond devastating.
She's never been a human being. She was born with a broken mind
She’s not a “woman” she’s a demon
Yep. She cannot even fake the emotion. Its like she truly doesnt recognize empathy or remorse.
@@WhoaBo
Have you ever tried barefoot shoes?
What is the nature vs nurture mix for this young lady to be a psychopath? It seems like she was raised in a decent home, but has zero remorse/empathy and appears to be a pathological liar.
i love that jab at the end "i haven't interviewed many monsters or mass murderers, so thank you" she laughed like it was a compliment
She's EVIL personified!!!!
C est un compliment ! Il est fier ce journaliste merdique !
@@akkakaram8080 non c'est pas un compliment
@Emotionless0000says you
When did she laugh ? I didn't see her laugh at all
To hear that father break down when he realised it was his daughter that just annihilated his entire family just broke my heart
Same
@@BelindaM44 ❤️
@@jamiesimmons1 ❤️
He is a victim of something truly horrible, and deserves
no criticism for how he tries to cope.
Piers did an excellent job of interviewing... brilliant 👏
My heart breaks for Terry. He doesn't realize that he truly lost his daughter before the murders.
Yes and doesn't care still
yes and she does not deserve his forgiveness at all
16 / teenagers are the our turning point of life 😮
💥
Wow thats it! Your so right
She’s absolutely void of sorrow for the loss of her family…whether or not she was responsible.
This absence of sorrow speaks volumes about the core or her character.
Agree with you fm Srilanka
She is church going loving saved daughter of devil.
i agree, did you see how she was all smiles and laughter talking about what she was going to do when she got out. Right after the very serious question about does she feel responsible for Charlie being in prison, because if not for her he wouldn’t have been…Her answer…she never thought of that before… Like what?? I would be thinking about all the families I ruined putting this into motion!
Well said!💯
@@wordsleuth992absolutely 💯
I believe the father is feeling “Survivors Guilt” and PTSD. The first purpose of a man is to protect his family. He is hurting bad that he couldn’t save anyone. What a heartbreaker.
There are some stories about dear old dad in more recent light. Dear old dad was remarried pretty quick. He was also embezzling money and making money off fraudulent GoGundMe’s and such. The religion card sure seems to apply sometimes. I never trust any religious zealots.
@@cherylbritt7227 profile pic checks out
@@cherylbritt7227 Just because he married again soon after doesn't make him a bad guy. I wouldn't expect the Man to be alone forever. Also, I imagine Gofundmes were set up in his name due to all that he had lost. I would have to know more than that to decide he's a bad guy.
I just made a comment that’s almost identical to yours. I agree completely that the trauma of outliving your family as a father & the instinctual drive to protect your family has to be an overwhelming. It prevents him from healing & from accepting the truth about his daughter. PTSD treatment is crucial.
@@cherylbritt7227it’s NOT noteworthy that he remarried soon. Most men marry within a year or less. They don’t like being alone after a death or divorce.
I listened to a post from a military psyops guy, now a neuroscientist. He watched the interview from Dr. Phil at 5 AM and said it creeped him out so much he had to turn the lights on.
I lost a brother in a house fire, I was 5 and remember vividly telling my parents if they’re not gonna jump neither will I. There was my parents and 6 other siblings. This has me in tears thinking of my own experience and the forgiveness this man has. God Bless him.
I'm so sorry to hear that.
I hope you are going to therapy, and can find a way through it all (even if you just start with betterhelp).
So sorry for your loss. I imagine what a horrific and sad experience that was for all of you.
Im so sorry you lost your brother and you had that happen.
😢😢 I’m so sorry
So very sorry to hear.
I am so happy that her father has another chance to share his amazing heart with another family...what a beautiful human! I sincerely hope the rest of his life will be a comfort and a deep blessing.
He had more children?
@beanj580 yes..another commenter said he remarried & i think they have 4 more children.
I did notice a wedding band and was wondering if he got remarried or was still wearing it.
@@TaraConti i think at that time it was his original. He had later pretty much broken contact ( or reduced contact ) with this one & began to build a new life..
I've lost a pet and can't dare imagine getting another ever again and that's because loss can be elaborated on the cognitive level but emotionally it leaves scars, literally anyone with whatever degree of emotional capacity and loss experience knows it on some level.
That man lost his entire family that was killed by his own daughter and yet he now has a new family and kids...
Do you genuinely believe that anyone experiencing regular and even enhanced emotional capacity would be able to make a new family after something like that?
I am not making a negative judging point about his heart but rather considering that traumatic events make people's emotions go off and he doesn't seem to be an exception so I sincerely wish him good too but I don't understand how you can consider the fact that he had more kids as an inherently positive thing both for him and for the kids.
As a father, my children are my entire life. I can’t comprehend losing 2 kids at the hands of the 3rd. This man is incredibly strong to keep going.
Poor guy needs therapy
Plus his wife. He lost his whole family including this daughter. Tragic i dont think I could have the strength myself.
I don't know how he is still going. One does not recover from such a thing.
Yeah and his wife also! Poor guy.
What a superior interview by Pierce Morgan...able to maintain the fine line of human compassion with inate repulsion...able to interject those spontaneous shifts to double-back for an answer each time his subject would vear off his initial interrogatories. Most tactful and professional interview ever.
Says "I'm taking responsibility for my actions" yet doesn't take any responsibility for her actions
Well, she still has some things she's "gotta process and work out," ya know. 🤮
@@seanstipsky9473 Whilst what she did was indeed monstrous, it was still an undeveloped mind at the time, suggesting that she's still "processing" isn't entirely unrealistic, there definitely would be trauma involved from her own PTSD there / protective barrier she's installed for herself. You can shape someone's entire life based off their teenage years of experience, so this is the world that she's molded for herself - so yeah to me it's not an unreasonable response.
People are wayyyyy too trusting. She killed her entier family and yet people actually listen to a word she has to say as though it could be something that isn't a lie or manipulation. Americans are too into the whole under-dog / anti-hero trope. Probably something that losers love to eat up.
@@dustywoood Fortunately, that doesn't matter much regarding this case. Seems like all of a sudden, people started repeating that the brain isn't fully developed until you're 26 yo, as if they all read the same Newsweek article. I'm not denying that it may be true, however, if we're going to take that into consideration, then it needs to be done across the board. Otherwise, it's just a convenient excuse. If people under 26 can't be trusted to make sound decisions, then maybe we should change the age of legal adulthood to 26, or make it illegal to get married or have children under the age of 26.
@@1w598Right. And in this case, she actually is 26 when sitting there being interviewed, yet she still cannot explain or express what really happened...She most likely never will, she's a psychopath. I think people have a hard time grasping that, due to her slightly "innocent" features (yet I find her evil looking, it's something in the eyes)
This woman is mad scary . She takes no ownership over her actions, no responsibility whatsoever. And she doesn’t ever answer piers questions without stopping and starting and not really answering them unless it’s in a roundabout way.
She’s terrifying!!!
I think it's because she KNOWS her Dad will be watching and she doesn't want to admit to him that she was indeed the Mastermind behind the whole thing!!!! I think she fears that if her Dad knows the Truth that he'll walk away from her but even if she tell him the Entire Truth he'll NEVER walk away from her because she's all he's got left!!!! It's Saddd Really!!!! Her Dad Deserves the TRUTH Tho!!!!!
The way she doesn't really answer the questions and gives specific answers is really frustrating to watch.
Yes, I agree, sooo frustrating to watch! Every time she was speaking in this video I had to resist the temptation to
fast-forward through those scenes, because she was so upsetting to me. And her voice sounds like a little girl. A psychotic, demented, manipulative, narcissistic little girl - like something out of a horror movie. And when she refers to the “other ladies” in the prison with her, as if she’s talking about a tea party or book club, it made me want to throw up.
Both her and her boyfriend are absolute monsters!
@@blondegiraffe2023my exact thought. She avoids most of the questions
This girl is the best example of a sociopath that I’ve ever seen
She makes Edmund Kemper look warm and inviting.
Yes, she is narcissistic and a sociopath in my opinion. I've experienced the same behavior up close and personal. Horrifying.
@@randyerickson2568 Almost as horrifying as giving yourself a thumbs up to your own comment.
@@randyerickson2568 psychopathic, not sociopathic. She showed no remorse. A sociopath would at some point afterwards express regret.
@@randyerickson2568 yawn, everyone these days thinks they know narcissistic sociopaths when you likely have no basis for that and simply just dislike the person. those terms are grossly overused and misused.
It's so sad to hear the father still trying to shift the blame, he still cannot believe in his heart that his daughter was capable of masterminding this whole thing.
Notice how she tears up when it’s about her and doesn’t cry when it’s about her family. She doesn’t comprehend the love of her father. Doesn’t seem to appreciate him at all.
I did notice. She is a textbook psychopath. And a malignant narcissist. And a manipulator. And a murderer. I could go on but everyone gets the idea.
And at one point pondered on breaking up with him altogether.
@@JasonKnight-007shut up incel
@@JasonKnight-007 nah thats just everyone who is irrational
She tears up because she knows she's guilty and is in denial, even after 8 years she can't accept what happened fully.
She can never answer a question directly
anyone whos delusional and arrogant in it, even a 1% , such as her is capable of just as much, dont be decieved
The level of manipulation is impressive
That's because her lawyer has told her how to think about the situation. It's so disgusting she cannot accept responsibility, still.
This disturbed me greatly, not only does she have the ability to detach herself from the atrocity of this crime, but has seemingly detached herself from the person responsible, "herself ", dissociative personality disorder? She should never be released, and her father will rot in that trailer trying to find excuses for why she did it. He knows she's responsible, he's clinging to all he has left, her and the last place he was before he lost his entire family. Perhaps he feels a degree of responsibility for not getting her some help prior, I don't know if even this would have made a difference given the girls unwillingness to reflect deeply.
He needs to move on and give himself a second chance of finding love and happiness, rather than clinging to his perpetrator daughter, who is an empty shell incapable of remourse, empathy and love.
The emotions that define us as human beings, and seperate us from the rest of the animal kingdom.
I'm going to pray that the father finds his 2nd chance to be truly happy once again. ❤
Her little brothers though. Thats what gets me, she's not mourning them or showing any remorse or regret. Its mind boggling to me. Those poor babies. 😢
Gut wrenchingly sad 💔💔😢😢
Right! Why did they have to die?
Obviously sibling rivalry involved as well. She's a very self-centered person.
@@huntdooly9845 Exactly! Really disgusting!
😢
Her fathers reaction the minute he found out his own daughter was involved made my heart ACHE 💔💔
The poor dad lost everything😢 its so sad to hear him speak about his boys and wife. May God continue to help him heal.
He married his secretary not long after and visits Erin regularly.
@@Suzie-he9ni Interesting.....
Where was god when he should've been protecting the kids? 😂
@@Wrong.one.again.people have free will, and evil exists, and mistakes are made all the time. You can’t blame God for that. All the more reason to lean on Him, and seek His wisdom and truth.
God gives us free will....geeeessss@@Wrong.one.again.
This is what Piers should stick with, interviewing murders, instead of Hollywood and Royal gossip. The interview was interesting and this really his cup of tea.
I was impressed with how well he conducted this interview.
It certainly shows his skill set, agree.
But he doesnt understand psychopaths... no tears = sociopath.
I agree he does this well but I do like his political interviews. He does a good job of being objective.
Totally agree
She should be doing life without parole. Full Stop!!!!!
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!
She got more than enough time. Her life is ruined.
Period! She will still have many years ahead of her.
@@1962pjhOh, HER life is ruined? What about the victim? Smh.
The Parole Board will make the decision of letting her out and they’ll see this little interview and her lack of remorse and lack of accountability for her actions and they won’t let her out.
It won’t surprise me though if the Dad doesn’t petition the board to let her out. Don’t blame him too hard…..she’s the only family he has. And that’s all he’s seeing.
A quick interview with the guards would be interesting
His daughter is EVIL for the simple fact that she's still pretending to be a sweet, innocent girl. There's no remorse as she hasn't owned up to the truth.
It is possible she is not pretending to be a sweet innocent girl, it could be that the trauma of what she did has prevented her from moving past her 16 year old self. She was not capable in the interview at 24 to admit her involvement to the extent it was. She is now 32 and good chance she still portrays her 16 year old self. She may be ruined for life with no future of moving past what she did.
Notice every time she was supposedly welling up with emotion there were never any tears. Not one.
I thought the same thing! No remorse!’ 🤬🤬
@divergentone7491 I agree. Likely she was not allowed at the funerals, which would also further stunt her.
How old was the boyfriend? Does anyone know?
@@gasstationpeanuts1814😅
There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with this child!!! She should NEVER be release! Hats off to her father for forgiving her - he’s a better person than most!
She is not a child anymore, she just uses that child little voice because that is what this kind of woman do , if you speak like a child you can’t do bad.
It does no good to forgive one, if you're not going to forgive all.
I agree with you, But there was something wrong with the entire family.
While I empathize with the father, I feel like he is running away from some truth he doesn't want to admit about his daughter. I feel like he forgave her on a lie. Forgiveness is only pure when is based on truth and I feel like both the father and the daughter do not want to admit the truth. It's like the father has a dark room he doesn't want to go in, and to sleep at night he keeps telling himself that room doesn't exist.
Agreed. Takes alot more energy to hate someone thn to let it go. Doesnt mean u forget. My not letting hatred torture your soul only you hv control over that.
It is so frightening for someone to look so innocent and yet to be beyond evil!
Satan was the most beautiful angel
Innocent? She looks like a disgruntled vapid troll. The blue eyeliner is the the only thing keeping her face from looking like used chewing gum.
She doesn’t look innocent. She looks like a witch
@@carolcote1596exactly
@@carolcote1596 That is not said often enough.
I've watched a lot of videos about this case and each time I learn something new but this one hit a lil different because this is the first time I actually got to hear the father's reaction when he found out that his daughter was involved in everything that happened and when he broke down and started crying my heart broke and I started crying. I can't even imagine what he was thinking or feeling in that moment.
I watched till the end, and realize she’s the total mastermind. She has no guilt and no remorse for every one involved. It’s all about her
I feel like she doesn't publicly show emotion but she did express remorse. Her ex boyfriend and his friends , Charles, Charlie and Bob are the people her dad saw w/ guns and samurai sword... but yes I haven't watched this the whole way through yet.
She was holding back tears and began to talk about her forgiveness, until Morgan cut her off.
Not a tear.
Narsissist are extremely dangerous. sent by the devil himself, to destroy.😟
Agreed! And she probably gets off on the fact that even after all of that, she can still rely on her daddy always being there for her. Shameful!
Oh lord. The father's crying after he found out about his killer daughter is seriously heartbreaking.
timestamp?
@@quantum_ocean 7:50
Yes I agree. She should have received a sentence of guilty for murdering 3 humans and have NO chance of parole…ever!
That's what death sentences are for...
She should be training cops and detective's to harden up
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@@throwupsnzmighty1446😅😊😊😊😊
I have absolutely no doubt that she spearheaded all these plans. The fact that her therapist said that she was a dangerous person, is super telling. On top of this, she couldn't even be bothered to give us an idea of what responsibility she's going to take for these crimes because assuming responsibility, also infers culpability. If she takes responsibility, that's an admission of guilt, something she is not willing to do. I know without a doubt that she was the one who orchestrated everything, and I feel nothing but complete and utter pity for her father, who literally had everything ripped away from him by his psychopath daughter. May she never get out of jail, and rot for the rest of her life
It's insane how the two guys got life without parole while the ladies got away with much less. Why? Erin Caffey should never be let out. Way too dangerous...
Males get 7 times stiffer punishment than females for doing the same crime. It's how our justice system is set up. That must change. Shes just as evil and dangerous but bc shes a female shes viewed as less responsible and less dangerous.
You don't deserve to ever be free! You're evil.
From the legal standpoint she didn't fire the gun. Not saying I agree
Are u familiar w/ protected class? @@HFXmermaid
Erin was originally sentenced to life, however, her dad had petitioned for her to have a reduced sentence.
That woman is still as DANGEROUS as the day before she even stepped in that prison
If not moreso
,no remorse
Absolutely
Is that a fact.
Born without sense.
Hearing a man cry like her father did when he found out his daughter did it is one of the saddest sounds you can ever hear. When a man cries that type of cry his soul is in more pain than he can bear.
Sad for him
True.
That girl is creepy and kinda scary🤐
So, how did she actually do it? When humans are angry for silly things, we do say things which we don't really mean, in the heat of the anger. The fact some uneducated youth took her words literally, again is very tragic. This was preventable had those boys been not so neglected in upbringing. So, much so, they could not separate bad from good?Sad case. But let this woman not rot in prison. It won't bring the family back anyway. GOD is forgiving.
Or when a woman cries like that.
Sad the only way the dad can cope is by telling himself that his daughter wasn’t the mastermind behind it. You can tell the truth would be too much for him to accept especially with her being the only family he has left.
I feel so bad for this father. You lost 2 kids, a wife, and the only one left was the monster that caused it all. This a very strong man I don’t know how I could ever be able to take a quarter of that pain.
I feel the most bad for the 8 year old Tyler who hid in the closet and was brutally murdered after his mother was murdered, only to be butchered by these insane two boys.
Weak, not strong. He is why she turned out like this. A Father is supposed to teach conditional love. Unconditional love is from a Mother. He is not a Father, he is in fact Mothering this child. She is still a child because she has never known a Father. This is why she cannot take responseability for her actions. Her own Father cannot hold her accountable. She cannot hold herself accountable. She is still playing mind games and delusions in her head like a child.
@@ricky4673 I don't think a father can choose how his son or daughter can be, but I agree that the father of Erin and the woman who said Charlie was not evil in the video both have a responsibility too in influencing her life, but so does Charlie Wilkinson.
Both the father and the woman who don't believe Charlie is evil fail in holding Erin and Charlie accountable and in that they have both failed them miserably, and there is a evil in that for sure.
Yes Erin is playing mind games but it is obvious that so is Charlie and Charles.
They are all coldhearted killers without care for anyone but themselves, even now none of them is evil giving a indication of feeling guilt or remorse. Truly scary.
Not the original big on itube@@americasariesson1862
The no reply from dawn c usa@@americasariesson1862
Sad that she never once said that she missed her mom or her brothers. That speaks volumes unfortunately. God bless her dad.
I really encourage you to read a book about the crime, specifically the accounts from people in the community. It's not nearly as simple as this and it may change your perspective. It would be very disrespectful for me to say more, but, I promise you it's more complicated than you think.
@@daviddowney717 do you have any links to what we should read?
@@TyrfingUNgoogle “books on the case”
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who cares? Sure its bad, but the real pyhcos are the ones that went in and did the actions.
How unsettling for her to describe murdering her family as bad choices we make as teens as if it's like shop lifting or sneaking out...
@@christonabuckner185 Are you in your right mind??? KILLING YOUR FAMILY IS LIKE SHOP LIFTING OR SNEAKING OUT. YOU ARE A SAD, SICK PERSON!!!!!!!!!
@@jerriannhoag5842 😆
@@jerriannhoag5842please read that again😂
I understand the part where you used the word unsettling 😂
@@jerriannhoag5842that is NOT what the OG Commenter said. They said ERIN described what she did as something equivalent as shoplifting or sneaking out. How did you misinterpret that?!
Greatest opening to any crime story, video, film...ever!!!
One of the most sinister killers considering how young she is/was, how she was raised, even how she looks...and the victims were her own family members...who she admitted were great and did nothing wrong...just sends chills down the spine
sinister? Please 🙄
@@HermitOnWheels that description is accurate.
@@kalicat9492 I guess it’s all perspective. 🤷♀️ My experience of sinister is way different.
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@@HermitOnWheelsexplain you fool
She should never be let out, dangerous soul.
She doesn’t have a Soul !!!
I'm a father and I can't imagine the pain Erin's father endured. Not only did he lose the lives of his wife and 2 boys, he also lost the soul of his daughter.
Why you must be 💌Jesus Christ...who will one day sit at the right hand of God Jehovah and judge the ♦️Living and the Dead ♦️
Well said.. "Lost the soul of his daughter too.."
Thats why he is so in denial. The only thing left of his family is the shell of his daugther
that daughter never had a soul
That aint his daughter thats the Devil.
Immediately fast forward through the amazing grace
My heart hurts for the dad. He seems like a good man. Hearing him break over finding out she was involved was sad. He loved his family, no doubt.
The audio of the father’s reaction after being told of the extent of his daughter’s involvement just shatters my heart… he has literally lost his whole world and you can hear it 😢
at the end of the interview when she waved back -- I dunno she acted like she couldnt wait to get back to her cell-- or maybe she was excited to talk to someone else--
That was a wonderful interview, Piers. That girl IS pure evil, even though she tries to present herself as quiet and soft spoken. She had her family killed AND she ruined the lives of three of her friends. She should be begging for forgiveness!
Who should she be begging forgiveness from?!! One...She believes she does nothing wrong. Second...There is no one...NO one...who can grant her such. Her sociopathic self believes in nothing and no one, but themselves, and what they think and do. She is the poster child/woman for the mental disorder. The father is in self preservation, so he can't end ALL his family by accepting his own daughter being the evil soul that she is, that SHE did this. So she doesn't NEED to ask forgiveness from him. She can't ask forgiveness from the dead. She doesn't need to ask forgiveness from the mothers, fathers, siblings of those she planned with. That would suggest she had power of the Devil, using coercion, by means of threats or physical attack. Those boys were evil themselves. They were not coerced. And she won't ask God for forgiveness, as nearly ALL sociopaths do not believe in a God. Who would she ask forgiveness from since she revels in her conduct, proved by her lack of culpability?! She fools no one but her self loving self! Sociopath, Psychopath, Narcissist...cold, calculating, vile.
Those ‘friends’ share the responsibility equally with Erin.
@@createone100 Exactly! Disgusting!
Could someone talk you into doing that under any circumstances? There are always options.
She is indeed evil and is responsible for the killings, but she didn´t ruin the lives of her 3 friends, they ruined their own lives. If you can be talked into doing something like this, you don´t have a soul. They are just as evil as her.
The father is an incredible person. 😢
This father is still trying to not accept his daughters guilt
Leave him alone the man’s suffered enough
Her culpability is low. She was pushed into this. Shouldn’t have got more than 10-15 years.
She's all he has.
His not accepting what she did is what is keeping him alive.
No one ever wants to believe their own flesh, and blood could do this to their own families. So sad, brings me too tears. He loves his kids as mush as I do my own, and this would destroy me on the inside. 🙏🙏🙏🌹
Love how she’s answered the questions without actually answering the questions.
Make a great politician… so sincere , not !
@@VH-gw3qi I was thinking the same
Lots of word salad going on there, but no real insight 😢
She îs a master manipulator, or tries to be one.
I'd be more interested in hearing interviews from her fellow prisons about how she is when a camera isn't pointed at her.
exactly
Even with adults, there is "good impression" personality and deepest dredges personality. You never know who you are really talking to some days.
Yes!
She's learnt more ways on how to manipulate.
Erin Caffey is a psychopath