I always feel bad for innocent witnesses. I can't imagine. The poor girl going through all this is horrible enough, and now that pain is passed further. Dark case
When he said it's taken about 2 minutes to fully take in that it is real.... I would never want to be marked by the first visual memory of someone's murder. The haunting that you stumbled into.
Found this poor girls memorial page on facebook. Her family still posts about her often and misses her a lot, especially her mother. This is so sad and senseless.
@@Ashton123082I wonder about all the kids that were in this video. Apparently all of them were high school aged kids, most living in some kind of halfway house, running around at all hours of the night, doing drugs, having babies, etc. Where are all their parents? Aren’t they responsible for their children?
@@austinleap5924 in this video there are references made to parents of several of these kids so that’s not the case here. Obviously not good parents but parents nonetheless.
It's unfortunate that they gave the child to the woman who raised cringe psychopathic Amanda. You know the grandmother brings the baby to see his "mother." Sigh. I have little hope for him.
I know right! Do they not know how spell check works? Mind you "woman and ridiculous" are basic grade school spelling, which proves they didn't get far with that either.
@@frustratedalien666little unknown fact, her dad raised her up until 14/15. When she came to live with her mom… and was absolutely horrible to her. As someone who was kind of close with her and was in the walls of her house she was horrible to her mother. So horrible. I’m ashamed I ever carried a “friendship” with her. Mainly my sis did cause she was 3 yrs old than me and in my sisters class. After a falling out she turned to a horrible disgusting bully towards me saying disgusting. Things… I never thought she’d act on it, I thought she was just being a bully.
Ah yes. The classic progression of “I don’t even know why Im here” to “I know why, but im not involved” to “im involved, but barely” to “im very involved, but i was forced by my bf/gf” to “FREAKIN DEMONS, MAN”
Let's imagine what it's like to die, your entire being now reduced to that of a non-human object, your entire conscious is now gone forever, you will have no awareness or memory of being alive (we know that because we can still have memory loss while living), you will have no memory of even having existed once it's time, nor will you be randomly reborn into another person's body magically, and even if we did, infinite amount of sperm cells died during the process of becoming a baby but there is no connection how our ashes could then become a sperm cell. Religions and other demonic beliefs are all humanity's coping mechanism to the reality that we're just an insignificant existence that will be forgotten with time once our time arrives. In the next 100 to 1000+ years, no one can say that we exist without and with a record. Why do you think the "chase" is the happiest? Because you will become completely distracted from the reality of your impending death with ambition. Because once you get what you always wanted/or to become, you will realize that everything and all the things that we keep caring so much about are all made-up things by humanity over the extended period of our race's own existence. Our human value today is different from the past, but this wouldn't be the case if we were born and remained "conscious/aware" 1000+ years back when right and wrong are completely subjective.
Like, who cares about people getting rich off of kicking a ball around and calling the activity as soccer (we made it up), who cares about people being able to do something better and subjectively believed that they are important or not important when there is no truth to everything that we're doing beyond appealing to our emotions when we really were born without any real purpose, the money and the papers that you're holding have no real value because it's just an object that humanity, overtime, started giving tangible value to it via "ideas and how you should think about it". If we were really born to leave a path to our younger generation, then do tell me, what's the point when death and with time, they will become like you in the end??
According to her babies are worthless, she’s nothing but a long chinned azzhole that shouldn’t of ever been able to reproduce and now the child is being raised by a grandparent that raised one of these parents so this child has no future and no chance. The whole situation is sickening
@@eugeniaskelley5194 Nowadays? The murder happened 2016. These were the times were every troubled teen had a facebook and tumblr where they would post these cringe posts with The Dark Knight rises Joker or the blonde guy from American Horror Story. Absolute madfest I'm telling ya. I had so many friends do this and it was so fucking embarrassing.
It's B.S. cause you think after you die, you won't go to a place of punishment for your sins and wicked deeds. But what she said, is 100% real facts. The unGodly can't see the spiritual world, cause they are far from God and they don't have a relationship with Satan. I have a relationship with Jesus, so I saw the opposite a glimpse of Heaven and 2 Saints a man and a woman I saw the face of Jesus, he's very real and he's coming back to Judge the world. I also saw Hell in 2012 A sleep paralysis demon is a hallucination that occurs during sleep paralysis, a state of temporary paralysis when falling asleep or waking up. What it is A hypnopompic hallucination that involves seeing a malevolent figure, shadow, or other ominous creature in the room How it happens A momentary lapse in how the brain processes bodily perception How it feels A feeling of terror, often with chest pressure How long it lasts A brief sensation that lasts a few minutes.
It's B.S. cause you think after you die, you won't go to a place of sufferings for your sins and wicked deeds. But what she said, is 100% real facts. The unGodly can't see the spiritual world, cause they are far from God and they don't have a relationship with Satan. I have a relationship with Jesus, so I saw the opposite a glimpse of Heaven and 2 Saints a man and a woman I saw the face of Jesus, he's very real and he's coming back to Judge the world. I also saw Hell in 2012 A sleep paralysis demon is a hallucination that occurs during sleep paralysis, a state of temporary paralysis when falling asleep or waking up. What it is A hypnopompic hallucination that involves seeing a malevolent figure, shadow, or other ominous creature in the room How it happens A momentary lapse in how the brain processes bodily perception How it feels A feeling of terror, often with chest pressure How long it lasts A brief sensation that lasts a few minutes.
In this case it's most likely a formality. Like maybe because they kept shifting the blame they both ended up with a 2nd degree plea deal. Not that it matters for them really, since they still got life.
Yeah I knew she legit had nothing to do with it when she was begging them to call her house manager to confirm she was in the house at 10pm that night. House manager means sober house, which means curfews and check ins. Not something most of us are excited to have to deal with, usually you go into a sober house straight from rehab, and at first you’re just so excited to be outside again, out of rehab, able to smoke a cigarette, see other people, work, actually do things. But within a week or two you’re totally over the daily meetings, the endless rules, the pop up drug tests, and worst of all, the curfews. So it’s pretty interesting and awesome to me watching the other Amanda pleading with them to call her sober house manager. As soon as I heard her say house manager I knew what time it was, and I never in my life looked at it that way, never, that, in fact, all those rules, and the curfews, and the nosy house managers, can actually end up being your saving grace in ways you never imagined and that following those rules and doing what you’re supposed to do, can end up helping you prove your innocence when your record, your history, your appearance and your reputation are all setting you up to look like the bad guy 100%. Wish there were a way to know if the other Amanda succeeded in her time at her sober house after this and changed her life permanently, like maybe being saved by the structure and the integrity the sober house provided her, regarding this situation, helped her to realize how it could save her entirely in other ways Sorry for the tangent ramble here lol But I spend years in half way houses and sober houses and it was so interesting for me to see here
@@taniele84 It wasn't interesting and awesome. It was pathetic watching her become so ill-mannered and insolent during the questioning. That nasty attitude says enough about her and her future. She's not you so stop projecting, half-wit. Now hush, which is something you clearly need to be told to do more considering all of your aggravating, incessant rambling. I won''t be back for any more of your insufferable blathering so don't bother with another long-winded reply. Shhhh.
I started watching this last night and finished it this morning. I just realized yesterday would have been her 26th birthday. Happy heavenly birthday Angel 😢❤
the 911 operators always annoy me so much.. someone will be bleeding out dying calling HELP!! Please help!! the 911 operator: what’s your first middle and last name? when is your birthday? what’s the last thing you had for breakfast?
They drive me insane but they're trying to collect as much info as possible and if someone is dying while calling 911 they're trying to keep you awake till emergency can get there. Yes they're abnoxious tho. I find myself rolling my eyes often.
Wait, you were at the murder scene and didn't help the police? Sounds like accessory... I am just assuming you were there because otherwise how could you authoritatively say they did not cry during the murder??
I love that there’s subtitles , case photos, and a narrator (the voice is actually relaxing) I love everything about this channel. Thanks for bringing us these videos EWU! The amount of effort you all put in is incredible.
And then second Amanda just sat there with SUCH a smug, self satisfied look, like she thinks she’s about to outsmart everybody in the room. Then can’t wait to explain how epic and edgy she is. You may not know this about her, but she is pretty extreme, dangerous, and you really should be terrified of her if you didn’t quite realise that yet. After all, she is *The Incringeable Hulk*. She could totally do things! … you know, if she wanted to. So better not push her. You wouldn’t like her when she’s cringey.
Kaytlin was my cousin, she was the sweetest soul ever. I only really met/saw her 4-5 times due to distance but she was always there for me when my great grandma was on her deathbed and she always did anything to try and cheer me up. the two things i will always remember about her is her empathy and her minion phone case lol. may she rest in peace. and may amanda and sebastian rot.
I bet she watched the show evil it literally has the same premise only it's obviously a fake made up show. The devil has different people he uses and they basically have therapy sessions with him to learn what they're supposed to do or some thing
Hearing a mother say “A baby’s soul is worthless.” sent a chill down spine. Which is rare for me because I’ve heard all of the most deplorable, disgusting things you can imagine being an extremely avid, long time watcher of this type of content. Actually, it’d be rather mild objectively speaking compared to a lot of the stuff I’ve heard. But the volumes that it speaks to her mentality, just says what a monster she really is
@@renebrown7394 Honestly I'm not sure if she's a psychopath. She seemed to get defensive over her baby. that's not to say she doesnt have issues, but psychopaths probably wouldn't have bothered to redirect from their kids.
This is absolutely chilling! It’s horrifying to think about the mindset behind such a brutal act, especially among young people. It raises so many questions about mental health and the influences in our society today. We need to have deeper conversations about these issues to prevent tragedies like this from happening in the future. My heart goes out to the victim’s family and friends-no one should have to endure such pain.
To think she still deserves to be a mother to that sweet baby is completely laughable. If you cared about that baby, you wouldn’t have done anything to jeopardize your chance to be his mother.
Teens who have been pregnant/ have gotten someone pregnant often aren't the best decision makers and usually aren't thinking about anyone but themselves.
@@TheWorldisQuietHere3 Yup. I don't know why people LOVE to leave these kinds of "Captain Obvious" comments on EVERY true crime video like: "The killer isn't crying because they're sorry. They're crying because they got caught". Yeah... We know already. Literally everyone knows this. We don't need to hear it repeated every single time a killer gets sentenced to life. We get it. People also love to leave comments about how irrational and illogical some criminally insane killer is. And I always think "Well yeah, they're literally SCHIZOPHRENIC and high on METH. What do you expect??? Why are you acting surprised that they're being irrational??" If they were a rational person, they wouldn't have set a grocery store clerk on fire for absolutely no reason and then charged at the cops like a wild rhino. Lmfao
His personality screams the "I have two wolves inside of me" bs. Bro if you had an an entirely separate personality, you wouldn't remember. You'd be scared because you'd have blacked out entirely while it took over. I hope that baby is in a safe home far away from these two.
that's not how it really works you see yourself doing things but you lose control it's typically during a certain situation like being abused you disassociate then that other person takes over and you're not the victim anymore the attacker is,our brains do this to help us deal with trauma it's not really someone else controlling you just a different part of your own brain,if you don't fight back your own brain will take control of you and fight back so you don't die.
Yep. A LOT of people with dissociative identity disorder aren't even aware of their alters until adulthood or diagnosis. ....and unless you endured severe, repeated trauma before the age of 6, it's almost impossible to develop D.I.D. (Unless you were a subject of the CIA's "MK Ultra" experiments - but that's a whole other discussion) Lol I've also seen a lot of people mistake schizophrenia for DID even though they're entirely different disorders with entirely symptoms.
this is something i find interesting. i met two people with DID. Neither "blacked out", they just say "their" personality just takes a backseat when an alter takes over. I take DID with a massive handful of salt because so many use it as a quirk.
Type A personality disorder. Doesn't mean she doesn't need to be in prison for life. It's just a fact. prisons are full of people with various personality disorders. That's one of the reasons why dx and treatment is so imperative for many people with personality disorders, so they don't end up in prison.
"Its only murder if they find your body" Not anymore, sweetheart. The days of needing a body to prove murder are in the rear view mirror. The first one in the United states was about 150 years ago and the most recent was last year. There are dozens inbetween.
But isn't that then the cause of things like that guy being broken and confessing to murdеring his father, even though the father was alive and well? Aba and Preach showed it the other day.
@@ubuent4842 I think it could be a guilty thing where you feel that it should've been you who died and not the other person. It's a huge problem with people who have PTSD from war, many blame themselves for not taking the bullet for their closest friends when both didn't have the power to change the outcome. The whole "why couldn't it be me"
I made the mistake of commenting before I had finished the video. I was half asleep and thought Kaytlin (the victim) was the one who'd been texting people to hang out.
It already sounded like a setup right? 'Don't tell anyone you're with me' is a huge red flag; i cut a date short some years ago because the guy asked me "did you tell anyone you were going out with me today" yeah. Everyone i know. Im suddenly not so hungry matter of fact 🫤
44:25 this cop’s rant during the investigation is something I’d only expect to hear in TV show dialogue, it was frankly refreshing to hear him be so candid and mocking to her with his overwhelming disgust
I think that was a tactic to break the suspect away from a comfortable 'safe' conversation where they can continue to lie easily. It was over the top and theatrical to both match her ego and engage in her world. The hope is to get them to slip and it worked. She blurted out the 'babies have no souls' before realising what that implies
lmao me when im literally missing my last (and what would be 2nd if i went) hoco ever and bowling and a party w my friend group just to sit in bed with my cat and watch this lmao
@@chalbio If you have anxiety, you're anti-social, not an introvert. Introverts don't have social anxiety. They can socialize just fine, but in finite periods and need time alone to recharge, while extroverts need interaction to stay charged. Anti-social people, often mistaken for being bad or rude with no other state of behavior, are just people with things like social anxiety most the time. Yeah, some are horrible, but most just can't handle social interaction because of how much it scares them/makes them freak out. There's nothing wrong with being anti-social, but it is something to look at trying to get over. Only when you can do that, will you figure out if you're an introvert or extrovert. Odds are that you'll actually be an extrovert, as extroverts comprise something like 60-70% of the population. Being an introvert isn't some super special status, that being said. It's weird to want to romanticize it.
"the letter was in some other language" pffft roh Kay, girl. Could it possibly be Latin? Because a true devil' secretary would definitely know that much 😂😂😂😂 foh 🤡
Both of them saying they weren't freaked out/nervous by being arrested just tells you there's something off - an innocent person maybe wouldnt worry about things clearing up, but still feel irritated or nervous about the police stating "we know what you did, we have a lot of evidence", when you don't even know what they're accusing you of. I know it would freak ME out to be in handcuffs even if i didn't do anything.
You can have no emoti9ns and not want to go to jail but most of you don't quite comprehend how that shit works because you're people of average intelligence.
@@that.ll_do_pig It was absolutely outrageous. I immediately wasnt impressed by his performative outburst. I honestly think that the man who was sitting there, the one who did the technology forensics (I forget the exact title) was thinking the same thing, when that detective exited stage left while reciting his soliloquy.
@@lunatuna313 I don't think it was a tactic but it's understandable that he was frustrated. I could only imagine how irritating it would be to sit across a killer that's giggling during the entire interview, having no care in the world for what they've done... but he's still the interrogator and it's his job to maintain his cool even in the face of lunatics like her.
Eeeeeveeeeiiil Drake 😂 I’m so perplexed as to how many people plan out murderous intentions via electronic communications 😂 Just go sit in a park with your twisted friends and talk quietly amongst yourselves 🤷♂️
I don't understand why people don't think about "the reasons why I can't go to jail" before they commit a crime. Especially like murder. How did you not think about your son and all the things you would miss out on, before you took someone's life? That is just absolutely wild.
Yeah, this is the lesson I learned from these videos: nobody thinks about the consequences beforehand. So, if you find yourself in a situation that seems stupid or unfavorable for a crime and think you might be safe, you're not.
Both are absolute Maniacs, and im glad their rotting in jail, Kaytlin was a friend, a sister, and she definitely did not deserve this. She always brought a smile to my face with her bubbly and bright personality. I love you girl, still cant believe its been 8 yrs since youve been taken from us 💔😭
Ive watched so many of these videos but not all of them. From what ive seen though these are the best detectives/interrogator ive ever seen on these videos.
@@dissraps woah there bud - big leap in change of topic, AND huge generalization of women. I’m a woman that doesn’t feel that way (about what you’re talking about), and there’s plenty women out there who also don’t. But even so, please don’t villainize all women about the very complex and controversial topic you’re implying, and you definitely know my comment wasn’t talking about that lol. This is not the place or platform to debate this please
I agree. But some parents are just the vessel that God uses to bring a child into this world. It the card the child was dealt. But God makes sure that child has everything they need to get through it and grow. This is not me oking evil people. But I can relate to being that child.
I worked with Amanda at the North Belt Pizza Hut at the time she and Sebastian murdered Root. Not only did she laugh here but while I worked with her she made jokes about hiding her body in the park until someone just finds her in the few days it took to arrest her. As coworkers we were all just talking about the murder because we all knew it involved a girl our age that got killed since we were all in our late teens, and she just walks up, interrupts the convo and says “OR you could just leave the body at Krug Park and wait for people to find it!” And walked back off doing this cringey ass laugh. We all were shook to our core when she didn’t show up to work in the next few days. For the ones in my replies, no we did not know she killed her and no this was not the first crazy edgy remark made by Amanda in general (she said weird dark shit all the time, she joked about deaths and suicide all the time) so we all just passed it off as her being a cringey weirdo as per the norm. We all found out after she had already confessed and was going to go to prison and the whole town knew it. (We worked with her mom too so our manager did not disclose what happened until it was public knowledge)Idk why we didn’t call and make a report with police, but we were kids, and we were still in shock about the whole ordeal. The thing that really just sucks is that her mom was a very sweet woman and was one of the nicest people you met (she worked at north belt Pizza Hut as well) and she was trying her ass off to help Amanda but I think just didn’t know how or all the help she was trying to give just wasn’t utilized by Amanda.
This might just be a misunderstanding, coming from my first language not being English... but why the heck did you and your co-workers not immediately call police whenever you became aware of her involvement? The way you worded your comment (again, sorry if I am just misreading it) sounds almost as if y'all were _KNOWING_ but just didn't care, all the way up until she stopped showing up to work and it was like: "Oh shit, this is real..."
@@ImagineThatAbs They are teens, in 99.9% cases they are just trying to be edgy/ cool and not actually murdered someone, even more considering this was Tumblr era and she seems to be goth/ grudge aesthethics. I totally see how someone would just think it's just that.
@@ThraxxMediaOfficial No none of us knew we just knew a girl our age was murdered at the park and they were questioning people our age. And if you think a bunch of 16-18 year olds are gonna jump and call the cops on a satanist that said strange off the cuff shit all the time you’re mistaken. She made attempts at dark humor that never landed with anyone and always just came across as dark and in bad taste so we viewed it as that. She joked about the suicide of a classmate and celebrities that killed themselves and the other murders in saint Joe. If we called the cops on every teen that said some weird dark stuff we would have been arrested for wasting police resources.
@@ImagineThatAbs hindsight is always 20/20; but if we do what you’re saying which is call the cops everytime a teen who is an active satanist and cringe lord makes shitty attempts at dark humor we’d be charged for wasting police resources as 99% of the time they’re just saying some bullshit. We thought she was weird but none of us thought she would murder someone like that. Idk how long it’s been since you were a teenager but I feel like you’d be surprised by the sheer number of teens that act like her but never go on to brutally murder someone…
@@kayarose922She maybe have technically tried but legally speaking you have to make an unequivocal request. If there is any room for misinterpretation, that burden lies on you to further explain that you would like to cease questioning and speak with an attorney.
I love how you guys have a very concise way of storytelling. You talk about each moment, chronologically like an actual story but without trying to make a show out of it to bait people. It's just facts told in a very non confusing way. That's what true journalism is. Much love to this channel from brazil ;)
@@PBRRoughStockRanch the fact you injected literally unrelated politics in to this proves you’re of a weaker, more simple minded stock. Keep worrying about who the president is instead of what YOU do to help society… because you come off like a freeloading POS when you ride the meat of a president 😬. No one does that except you.
Immediately after that she says babies soul are worthless...that threw me because I've studied luciferian/occult teachings and babies are at the top of the list for souls due to their innocence and growth hormones etc. There are 100% people on earth right now drinking babies blood for the anti aging properties.
@@xinpingdonohoe3978 nah junkie knows what junkies look like and behave. Shes 110% drug addict. Speech patterns, gettin angry very fast and its not her first rodea with cops. Im not claiming she doesnt have adhd but its not the sole reason why she acts like that.
@@xinpingdonohoe3978because she showed all the signs of being on drugs! Way different than someone who has ADHD..and because I'm a recovered addict I know all the signs.
This breaks my heart for him. It really does. The careless and absolutely diabolical act has now affected someone who wasn't remotely involved. He doesn't have answers. And the description of the eyes is a human thing, I think. We communicate with our eyes, and to see them not respond must shake you to your primitive core.
@@phthalogreenbeanI know someone who witnessed a similar thing and I can confirm it f*cks you up for YEARS. They would talk about it with a 1,000 yard stare and then just brake down.
I have so much respect for detectives from watching this show, these men are true artists with their work. These were by far my favorite, they were so ruthless and called them out in the best ways possible no funny business. Much respect to them. RIP Kaytlin I’m sorry you came across these monsters. Condolences to the family.
My favorite is the one from the Stephen McDaniel, in the pink shirt 😂 “you haven’t done laundry in a week? That’s nasty Stephen, that’s horrrible..” all with a Georgia southern drawl! 😂😂
My favorite is the one from the Stephen McDaniel, in the pink shirt 😂 “you haven’t done laundry in a week? That’s nasty Stephen, that’s horrrible..” all with a Georgia southern drawl! 😂😂
And we don't know how it affects the detective's after seeing all this, remember they have to sort through every little detail to get to the bottom of it and it's not pretty I'm surprised some of them don't have to go to therapy after these murder cases
This is one case that has left me speechless due to the sheer stupidity involved & the senselessness of the crime. RIP to that poor girl she had to of been so very scared & confused in her last moments. Smh.
@@RexCGB They did a good job getting answers you need to play with people's phycology to get answers look at one point where one told you a killer and ran a few sentences go out it plays on emotions one guy worked 30+ years this see lot even properly more creepy thinks but his say look its worst you pressure that way think person to talk try find solution because picture dosent look good everybody talks on some point if not now later
@@stacibennett4753 you're part of the problem. not all weirdos are psycho murderers. this is why there are so many lonely people and why there's a suicide epidemic. speaking from experience as a lonely weirdo outcast who is not a psycho murderer.
@@flannelpillowcase6475It's not everybody's job to be everybody's friend. Blaming someone for not befriending weird people is crazy... They aren't disabled, they don't have a mental disability, so don't drag people like it's discriminatory. Coddling these people justifies their behavior and makes them a bomb waiting to explode.
@@flannelpillowcase6475 It’s better to overreact than to not react enough. If one person doesn’t want to befriend you, there are 8 billion other people on the planet. I used to believe it was my job to be “a good person” to those who are less fortunate. It turns out, I cannot project kindness onto others. Someone ill-intentioned or simply self-serving, will not hold back just because I befriended them.
“ When do I ask for a lawyer?” You can ask whenever you want … if that’s what you want to do. “ well you guys think I did something so I think I should go for it” At the time of the murder, Amanda was 16 years old, now the day of this interview she is 17 and still a minor .. Her asking about a lawyer should have stopped any interview … without knowing anything else about this case I wonder if this interrogation was thrown out.
asking about asking for a lawyer doesn't mean the cops have to stop interrogating you. In fact, even if you do request a lawyer, the police can still ask you questions, especially if you continue to respond. There's a reason why when you request for a lawyer you are suppose to refuse to answer any other questions until your lawyer is present.
@@manny4833that's because if just one person of the jury finds them not guilty, then your prosecution is toast. Therefore they prefer pleas for cases that are not airtight.
What the kind that still goes to Disney every year at 27... And gets drunk there and has no kids. And makes a fool of herself in front of a bunch of random families. (My ex)
real. knew a mf like this that literally romanticized her mental disorder. her user is like, bipolar princess or something like that it's so cringe and she's 22 a mom with TWO KIDS (who got taken away in the divorce with her second baby daddy, the first one khs but still)
I really appreciate the editing - fast forwarding to the relevant details while still showing the interrogation process. I guess Storytime doesn't use the experts to point out body language and interrogation techniques like the main EWU channel? I dig that
She's seems like those lefties that refuses to accept reality. Reality is going to hit her hard when the silly quirky and edgy attitude doesn't work in prison. She's the epitome of a tiktok brain.
"Each demon has a secretary" Wasn't expecting that line! It's scary to think idiots like these are walking around in public and the fact that she has a kid makes it so much worse.
Wait 'til you find out the majority of the population believes in a god who sends angels to talk to humans to pass on rules that they want you to follow. The masses are mentally ill... but I'm not surprised its not more widely discussed, as they aren't going to admit themselves that they're delusional.
I love the detective singing the theme tune to 'Love Boat' to her, forgetting that she's 17 years old and likely hasn't got a clue what the reference is. 😂❤
yea, she's heartless and soulless. She even said baby's dont have souls so they wouldn't be good sacrifice to satan. I do think the detective got a bit angry but at the same time he was using some great tactics to get under her skin as well.
I think they both were. The messages between them show they were both really engaged in trying to find a victim. She was psychotic, i'm confident about that and he claims to be a sociopath which given hat's happened is very likely. Not a good mix.
Here's a thing that people need to realize with dissociative personality disorder It doesn't matter which of your personalities committed the murder you both are going to prison in one body to one cell.
Yep cause if one alter is capable of murder and is dangerous the whole person is dangerous it’s not common in did but when it is they can’t risk the alter that’s dangerous being out and running around
He didn't need to mention that about himself, or that 'Drake' was violent at all. He seemed to be trying to blame it on her, so in a way it was a sort of confession to his part in the violence but gave him an excuse not to be able to recall it. He could well be a sociopath but I don't buy the split personality story. There was planning involved, messaging at various times. He can't argue 'it was always Drake' lol.
This was in my hometown! I worked with Katelyns mother! It was awful! Jamie was completely heartbroken! I didn't know this was that case when I clicked on the video. Rip Katelyn! You were a beautiful girl and had a beautiful soul!
Really. DA’s seem to give young people a break for some reason. Second degree may also be easier to get a conviction with jury. Anyway, I don’t think it’s right which really doesn’t matter tho.
Amanda sounds like my emotionally abusive best friend I had from ages 6-16. She giggles and laughs and treats this situation like a joke at anytime she can, it’s gross. My friend actually said one time that if they got arrested it’s probably be for murder, and then proceeded to laugh about it. Anytime they’ve ever been told “you hurt my feelings” it was always “how dare you get mad at me for my actions” or would make a joke about it and tell you you’re overreacting and stupid. They also REALLY enjoyed the fact that I and people like their boyfriend treated them like a god. They got off on control a lot and would brag about being able to make people do Something. I haven’t had any contact with them in 2 years but I hope for the safety of others that they’ve changed cause now I have 10 years of trauma responses to undo from the way I was treated.
"The eyes are wide open, theyre brown" he wont forget that picture, poor guy
Do you remember when we used to sing
I always feel bad for innocent witnesses. I can't imagine. The poor girl going through all this is horrible enough, and now that pain is passed further. Dark case
@@madisonkludy8541 Same - though it's pretty cool how many people know enough to not get near the scene and say that when talking to dispatch.
When he said it's taken about 2 minutes to fully take in that it is real.... I would never want to be marked by the first visual memory of someone's murder. The haunting that you stumbled into.
My thoughts exactly
Found this poor girls memorial page on facebook. Her family still posts about her often and misses her a lot, especially her mother. This is so sad and senseless.
I'm curious about the family dynamics if she wasn't living with her bio family.
@@Ashton123082I wonder about all the kids that were in this video. Apparently all of them were high school aged kids, most living in some kind of halfway house, running around at all hours of the night, doing drugs, having babies, etc. Where are all their parents? Aren’t they responsible for their children?
@@b4uc2far95 You must live a very sheltered life. Not everyone has parents lol
@@austinleap5924 in this video there are references made to parents of several of these kids so that’s not the case here. Obviously not good parents but parents nonetheless.
"Sheltered" isn't really the right word. More like blessed.
Imagine killing an innocent girl, doing life in prison, and never seeing your child grow up all for demon cringe.
Imagine being the poor offspring of these embarrassments.
It's unfortunate that they gave the child to the woman who raised cringe psychopathic Amanda.
You know the grandmother brings the baby to see his "mother."
Sigh. I have little hope for him.
To add insult to injury, your name is "Sylar" @@nekad2000
@@DamePiglet
THIS! ☝️😮💨
Ooh, boat loads of Taco Bell medium sauce.I have a bunch of frozen burritos and I have no sauce so get exercise please and thank you
I'm confused on why people keep telling Sebastian he is attractive....🤣
It's Missouri, if you have 10 fingers and most of your teeth you're at least an 8 there
i didnt get it either...
Same
Exactly... she really threw her life away over THAT?! Jesus christ dude
@@AurorasWorldxox she's hardly much to look at either
Kevin spelling it "weman" is a crime of its own
exactly💀
Should be a felony
Also, Sebastian should be charged with the same crime for spelling ridiculous as “rediculess”. Geez these poor kids had no hope.
I know right! Do they not know how spell check works? Mind you "woman and ridiculous" are basic grade school spelling, which proves they didn't get far with that either.
@@denicarobinson7154I just want to build rapport with yo ass so bad right now hottnes!!
imagine being murdered by such absolute cringelords
Never heard that term before, "cringelord" 😂
@@AmyraBatyah It fits *so* well
@@AmyraBatyah seriously hilarious!
I wonder what they posted on Reddit after the murder
@@Rose-wh6md 'heckin sweet murderino'
Her baby dodged a bullet growing up with psycho parents
his soul is worthless....😢
@@SheSasori but now he's with grandma who also ain't the best for him
@@MisakiBlossom yeah grandma raised the psycho parent😣
Based on how Amanda turned out, I don't have high hopes for the kid. Grandma is probably a cringelord herself
@@frustratedalien666little unknown fact, her dad raised her up until 14/15. When she came to live with her mom… and was absolutely horrible to her. As someone who was kind of close with her and was in the walls of her house she was horrible to her mother. So horrible. I’m ashamed I ever carried a “friendship” with her. Mainly my sis did cause she was 3 yrs old than me and in my sisters class. After a falling out she turned to a horrible disgusting bully towards me saying disgusting. Things… I never thought she’d act on it, I thought she was just being a bully.
Ah yes. The classic progression of “I don’t even know why Im here” to “I know why, but im not involved” to “im involved, but barely” to “im very involved, but i was forced by my bf/gf” to “FREAKIN DEMONS, MAN”
😂 Detectives must find this all so cliché.
😅😅😂😂😂
Ahhahaha@!!!!
Let's imagine what it's like to die,
your entire being now reduced to that of a non-human object,
your entire conscious is now gone forever,
you will have no awareness or memory of being alive (we know that because we can still have memory loss while living),
you will have no memory of even having existed once it's time,
nor will you be randomly reborn into another person's body magically,
and even if we did, infinite amount of sperm cells died during the process of becoming a baby but there is no connection how our ashes could then become a sperm cell.
Religions and other demonic beliefs are all humanity's coping mechanism to the reality that we're just an insignificant existence that will be forgotten with time once our time arrives.
In the next 100 to 1000+ years, no one can say that we exist without and with a record.
Why do you think the "chase" is the happiest?
Because you will become completely distracted from the reality of your impending death with ambition.
Because once you get what you always wanted/or to become,
you will realize that everything and all the things that we keep caring so much about are all made-up things by humanity over the extended period of our race's own existence.
Our human value today is different from the past, but this wouldn't be the case if we were born and remained "conscious/aware" 1000+ years back when right and wrong are completely subjective.
Like, who cares about people getting rich off of kicking a ball around and calling the activity as soccer (we made it up),
who cares about people being able to do something better and subjectively believed that they are important or not important when there is no truth to everything that we're doing beyond appealing to our emotions when we really were born without any real purpose,
the money and the papers that you're holding have no real value because it's just an object that humanity, overtime, started giving tangible value to it via "ideas and how you should think about it".
If we were really born to leave a path to our younger generation,
then do tell me,
what's the point when death and with time,
they will become like you in the end??
@ how many magic mushrooms did it take to spawn this phone book of a response
The fact that someone died over this extremely cringey tumblr/fanfiction bs is so crazy. And they had a CHILD that wasnt even an afterthought.
According to her babies are worthless, she’s nothing but a long chinned azzhole that shouldn’t of ever been able to reproduce and now the child is being raised by a grandparent that raised one of these parents so this child has no future and no chance. The whole situation is sickening
Teenagers are so immature nowadays. This kind of BS is something a 10-year-old would believe when I was a teenager.
@@eugeniaskelley5194 Nowadays? The murder happened 2016. These were the times were every troubled teen had a facebook and tumblr where they would post these cringe posts with The Dark Knight rises Joker or the blonde guy from American Horror Story. Absolute madfest I'm telling ya. I had so many friends do this and it was so fucking embarrassing.
It's B.S. cause you think after you die, you won't go to a place of punishment for your sins and wicked deeds. But what she said, is 100% real facts. The unGodly can't see the spiritual world, cause they are far from God and they don't have a relationship with Satan. I have a relationship with Jesus, so I saw the opposite a glimpse of Heaven and 2 Saints a man and a woman I saw the face of Jesus, he's very real and he's coming back to Judge the world. I also saw Hell in 2012 A sleep paralysis demon is a hallucination that occurs during sleep paralysis, a state of temporary paralysis when falling asleep or waking up.
What it is
A hypnopompic hallucination that involves seeing a malevolent figure, shadow, or other ominous creature in the room
How it happens
A momentary lapse in how the brain processes bodily perception
How it feels
A feeling of terror, often with chest pressure
How long it lasts
A brief sensation that lasts a few minutes.
It's B.S. cause you think after you die, you won't go to a place of sufferings for your sins and wicked deeds. But what she said, is 100% real facts. The unGodly can't see the spiritual world, cause they are far from God and they don't have a relationship with Satan. I have a relationship with Jesus, so I saw the opposite a glimpse of Heaven and 2 Saints a man and a woman I saw the face of Jesus, he's very real and he's coming back to Judge the world. I also saw Hell in 2012 A sleep paralysis demon is a hallucination that occurs during sleep paralysis, a state of temporary paralysis when falling asleep or waking up.
What it is
A hypnopompic hallucination that involves seeing a malevolent figure, shadow, or other ominous creature in the room
How it happens
A momentary lapse in how the brain processes bodily perception
How it feels
A feeling of terror, often with chest pressure
How long it lasts
A brief sensation that lasts a few minutes.
I like how a picture of their cat was introduced as "ACTUAL CASE PHOTO"
Cat was in on it.
Cat was the mastermind😎
"Actual Cat Photo"
What timestamp for this?
26:05
She called the detective evil for saying something about her child meanwhile she already murdered someone purely sickening
Sickening
Yeah it's kinda bad
@@thomasalbrecht35 lmao "kinda"
I feel like in her case, evil is a term of endearment.
That detective should have done things a lot differently though, she made him snap! He lost that little "hm hmm hmmm".
2nd degree murder?
They planned the whole thing and lured her out and killed her!
That's 1st degree murder all day long!
I don't get it.
In this case it's most likely a formality. Like maybe because they kept shifting the blame they both ended up with a 2nd degree plea deal. Not that it matters for them really, since they still got life.
Absolutely outrageous right? Where is the justice for Kaitlyn?
If they kept shifting blame it would be easier to do 2nd especially if you know for sure 1st would've resulted in a conviction
How the eff is it NOT I absolutely agree! This is premeditated murder and in my state they'd be facing the death penalty!!!
Bs plea deals. There is no justice
After watching this, I can truly say without any doubt, my childhood was completely normal.
It was hell being a child left to deal with demons all by yourself 😢💔
Mine wasnt normal at all...but it seems it can always be deeper....
Teaching taught me to appreciate mine and this only solidifies it
Imagine being that other Amanda panda and being interrogated for a murder you didn’t do?? That must’ve been terrifying.
Yeah
I knew she legit had nothing to do with it when she was begging them to call her house manager to confirm she was in the house at 10pm that night.
House manager means sober house, which means curfews and check ins.
Not something most of us are excited to have to deal with, usually you go into a sober house straight from rehab, and at first you’re just so excited to be outside again, out of rehab, able to smoke a cigarette, see other people, work, actually do things. But within a week or two you’re totally over the daily meetings, the endless rules, the pop up drug tests, and worst of all, the curfews.
So it’s pretty interesting and awesome to me watching the other Amanda pleading with them to call her sober house manager. As soon as I heard her say house manager I knew what time it was, and I never in my life looked at it that way, never, that, in fact, all those rules, and the curfews, and the nosy house managers, can actually end up being your saving grace in ways you never imagined and that following those rules and doing what you’re supposed to do, can end up helping you prove your innocence when your record, your history, your appearance and your reputation are all setting you up to look like the bad guy 100%.
Wish there were a way to know if the other Amanda succeeded in her time at her sober house after this and changed her life permanently, like maybe being saved by the structure and the integrity the sober house provided her, regarding this situation, helped her to realize how it could save her entirely in other ways
Sorry for the tangent ramble here lol
But I spend years in half way houses and sober houses and it was so interesting for me to see here
I can fix her LOL@@taniele84
@@taniele84yes, thought the same!! so interesting
@@taniele84 It wasn't interesting and awesome. It was pathetic watching her become so ill-mannered and insolent during the questioning. That nasty attitude says enough about her and her future. She's not you so stop projecting, half-wit. Now hush, which is something you clearly need to be told to do more considering all of your aggravating, incessant rambling. I won''t be back for any more of your insufferable blathering so don't bother with another long-winded reply. Shhhh.
@@taniele84 Some things one can see the infernal machinations.
Other things you can see the divine grace.
“Hell is an office building and every demon has a secretary”
Oh my God are there cubicles too
😭😭😭😭😭😭
Yeah its almost like that show, ''Your Pretty Face is Going to Hell''
I have definitely worked with some demons who had secretaries
@@thewhitelodgeryThat show is hilarious, I’m sad there’s only 4 seasons!
Underrated comment
I started watching this last night and finished it this morning. I just realized yesterday would have been her 26th birthday. Happy heavenly birthday Angel 😢❤
911: Why do you think there's a dead body? ....
Calller: Because I see a dead body.
the 911 operators always annoy me so much.. someone will be bleeding out dying calling HELP!! Please help!!
the 911 operator: what’s your first middle and last name? when is your birthday? what’s the last thing you had for breakfast?
They drive me insane but they're trying to collect as much info as possible and if someone is dying while calling 911 they're trying to keep you awake till emergency can get there. Yes they're abnoxious tho. I find myself rolling my eyes often.
@@tailwhup okay sir calm down. First we need to confirm that it's actually blood and not just strawberry jam from your breakfast
that was wild. Like, wtf
911 asks some of the stupidest questions. Probably lost a lot of lives waiting for them to stop asking dumb time-consuming questions.
I love how people cry when they get caught but didn’t cry while they were killing someone
Those weren't real tears they both had no remorse to what they did. Very soulless.
@@camillehall1490 Yeah those were "oh no, I'm f*cked" tears.
No, they giggle. And make offerings to their shitty beliefs
It's like theives who want to pay for what they stole after getting caught.
Wait, you were at the murder scene and didn't help the police? Sounds like accessory... I am just assuming you were there because otherwise how could you authoritatively say they did not cry during the murder??
I love that there’s subtitles , case photos, and a narrator (the voice is actually relaxing) I love everything about this channel. Thanks for bringing us these videos EWU! The amount of effort you all put in is incredible.
glaze
Facts. Every time I open YT I look up Ewu channels
Sorry ... I watch the videos from time to time but I can't say anything I've ever seen on this channel hasn't infuriated me .
😊
I like this voice but I honestly miss the female voice from early ewu days they are both great tho
Imagine being the first Amanda almost getting a murder pinned on you
And then second Amanda just sat there with SUCH a smug, self satisfied look, like she thinks she’s about to outsmart everybody in the room. Then can’t wait to explain how epic and edgy she is.
You may not know this about her, but she is pretty extreme, dangerous, and you really should be terrified of her if you didn’t quite realise that yet.
After all, she is *The Incringeable Hulk*.
She could totally do things! … you know, if she wanted to. So better not push her. You wouldn’t like her when she’s cringey.
Kaytlin was my cousin, she was the sweetest soul ever. I only really met/saw her 4-5 times due to distance but she was always there for me when my great grandma was on her deathbed and she always did anything to try and cheer me up. the two things i will always remember about her is her empathy and her minion phone case lol. may she rest in peace.
and may amanda and sebastian rot.
We're all really sorry for your family's loss.
God bless 🙏🏻
Thoughts and prayers.
I'm so sorry for your loss, keeping her family in my prayers. Please pass this on to her parents and yours. 💜💜
🧢
"Maybe we should do that to syler" that detective got under her skin with that one 😂😂😂😂😂
not really. he tried to test her reaction. She appears like a total psychopath. I would assume she doesn t give 2 cents about her son.
@saitamab.7296 she clearly had a reaction to that statement that stood out lol watch it again
@@saitamab.7296.
What skin
@@q5024Nah. Watch it again.
“Hell is an office building and every demon has a secretary”
She is describing my workplace, I knew it!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
LOL, you reminded me of that Adult Swim show, "Your Pretty Face is Going to HELL"
Literal office building full of demons, in hell.. Hilarious show, from what I remember.
I bet she watched the show evil it literally has the same premise only it's obviously a fake made up show. The devil has different people he uses and they basically have therapy sessions with him to learn what they're supposed to do or some thing
I think he said “her eyes are brown because they are wide open” poor guy who found her 💔 RIP Kaytlin
The bustinator the return of the kum king 2
@@taylorvenne3093bruh why
@@stmsly Better not burst zaddy
Should’ve been jailed for naming that poor baby Syler.
Dude’s middle name is Dudley, what did you expect?
She looks like a cartoon witch. The chin and all.
I'm french speaking what that means Syler?
It means nothing as far as I’m aware, it’s just a really stupid, stupid name!
It's just a name @@loufo1
Idk why but I REALLY liked that data cops demeanor. Something about his "Good luck to you." was sooo smug. I loved it! 😂
yess I agree! after he saw the data he KNEW she had no way out
It reminds me of the "Have a better day" *door slam
You should become best friends for life
@@Decades-pl2kl what if I wanna be best friends with YOU for life?
@@SoullessWarrior36I’d accept, personally, ngl.
They both inadvertently saved their baby from themselves . Thank goodness for that baby, it was doomed having both of them as parents 😢
it may still be. some things are genetic. only time will tell.
Thats kind of true, i was just thinking ,that poor baby ,but hes probably better off
The baby is being raised by a grandparent who isn’t the best for him, it’s the same person who raised one of these mental case parents.
“I’m a sociopath, that’s why I’m calm and emotionless… I also lose my temper and often freak out” you mean, your emotions get the best of you bud? 😂
Hearing a mother say “A baby’s soul is worthless.” sent a chill down spine. Which is rare for me because I’ve heard all of the most deplorable, disgusting things you can imagine being an extremely avid, long time watcher of this type of content. Actually, it’d be rather mild objectively speaking compared to a lot of the stuff I’ve heard. But the volumes that it speaks to her mentality, just says what a monster she really is
Well they say it every time there's an abortion. Don't forget it!!
she meant to demons idiot. they are pure. they have no sin. valueless to a demon.
Which she believes are possessing her. I'm not sure OP is the idiot here lmfao
@ lmao, thank you. I was baffled as to how I was an idiot and why he was rushing to her defense
I was always under the impression that the demonic types prefer pure souls tho? Like babies and virgins, no?
" You're sick."
"YOU'RE SICK IVE NEVER KILLED ANYONE"
bet that stung xD
It didn’t she’s a psychopath, unfortunately
@@renebrown7394 Honestly I'm not sure if she's a psychopath. She seemed to get defensive over her baby. that's not to say she doesnt have issues, but psychopaths probably wouldn't have bothered to redirect from their kids.
@@rileymatthews9161 "baby's souls are worthless"
@@aparnarai3708 psychopaths dont experience emotions. saying baby souls are worthless would indicate schizophrenia or other delusions.
@@rileymatthews9161She does but only for herself
Ewu has the best voice over for stories. One of the main reasons I'm able to stay with the story.
Agree, the Raven is the best narrator on UA-cam.
If you’re a voice person like me check out these two channels; John Lang and Audit the Audit!! You might learn some legal stuff too!
@@maddisonbythesea3015 especially if he throws in a little side joke or sarcasm
Does he do anything else??
He wrote a book and did the audio for it!
This is absolutely chilling! It’s horrifying to think about the mindset behind such a brutal act, especially among young people. It raises so many questions about mental health and the influences in our society today. We need to have deeper conversations about these issues to prevent tragedies like this from happening in the future. My heart goes out to the victim’s family and friends-no one should have to endure such pain.
Wokeness has devastated society 😢
To think she still deserves to be a mother to that sweet baby is completely laughable. If you cared about that baby, you wouldn’t have done anything to jeopardize your chance to be his mother.
💯
You mean Syler ?
Straight up delusional
Teens who have been pregnant/ have gotten someone pregnant often aren't the best decision makers and usually aren't thinking about anyone but themselves.
@@TheWorldisQuietHere3 Yup. I don't know why people LOVE to leave these kinds of "Captain Obvious" comments on EVERY true crime video like: "The killer isn't crying because they're sorry. They're crying because they got caught". Yeah... We know already. Literally everyone knows this. We don't need to hear it repeated every single time a killer gets sentenced to life. We get it.
People also love to leave comments about how irrational and illogical some criminally insane killer is. And I always think "Well yeah, they're literally SCHIZOPHRENIC and high on METH. What do you expect??? Why are you acting surprised that they're being irrational??" If they were a rational person, they wouldn't have set a grocery store clerk on fire for absolutely no reason and then charged at the cops like a wild rhino. Lmfao
His personality screams the "I have two wolves inside of me" bs. Bro if you had an an entirely separate personality, you wouldn't remember. You'd be scared because you'd have blacked out entirely while it took over.
I hope that baby is in a safe home far away from these two.
that's not how it really works you see yourself doing things but you lose control it's typically during a certain situation like being abused you disassociate then that other person takes over and you're not the victim anymore the attacker is,our brains do this to help us deal with trauma it's not really someone else controlling you just a different part of your own brain,if you don't fight back your own brain will take control of you and fight back so you don't die.
Yep. A LOT of people with dissociative identity disorder aren't even aware of their alters until adulthood or diagnosis. ....and unless you endured severe, repeated trauma before the age of 6, it's almost impossible to develop D.I.D. (Unless you were a subject of the CIA's "MK Ultra" experiments - but that's a whole other discussion) Lol
I've also seen a lot of people mistake schizophrenia for DID even though they're entirely different disorders with entirely symptoms.
Dissociative identity disorder looks nothing like how Hollywood portrays it.
And he wouldn’t be talking about it like he’s proud of it.
this is something i find interesting.
i met two people with DID. Neither "blacked out", they just say "their" personality just takes a backseat when an alter takes over.
I take DID with a massive handful of salt because so many use it as a quirk.
“High school drop out that works at McDonald’s” they violated him lmfao
That’s why this dork had to create a persona
Wonder what he was putting in the burgers? Demon Sauce maybe?
Imagine the cringe capacity of that tiktok account.
At least they worked at McDonald's not like Kamala lmmfao imagine lying about working at McDonald's lmmfao
@@miketobery7868😂
27:36 😂 The shade of EWU inserting a photo of her boyfriend when she complimented him
How creepy. The only time she becomes genuinely animated is when talking about hell and taking souls.
The rest of the time she acts like she's smarter than everyone and giggles annoyingly.
Possession is real
And all of her information is wrong. Of course, Satan is the Father of Lies.
Type A personality disorder. Doesn't mean she doesn't need to be in prison for life. It's just a fact. prisons are full of people with various personality disorders. That's one of the reasons why dx and treatment is so imperative for many people with personality disorders, so they don't end up in prison.
@@Pugetwitch it's not type A, dummy 😂😂 it's cluster B 😂😂 half the population is type A
"Its only murder if they find your body"
Not anymore, sweetheart. The days of needing a body to prove murder are in the rear view mirror. The first one in the United states was about 150 years ago and the most recent was last year. There are dozens inbetween.
posts that, proceeds to leave the body in the middle of a walking trail
But isn't that then the cause of things like that guy being broken and confessing to murdеring his father, even though the father was alive and well? Aba and Preach showed it the other day.
@@xinpingdonohoe3978 false confessions.
Oh more recent than last year!
I know right like WTF lol @@na-vn5qy
You know the other girls she was texting to come hang out have to feel such relief that they didn't decide to go. I can't imagine.
Or guilt, I personally would feel guilty.
@@maddisonbythesea3015y tf would u feel guilty?
@@ubuent4842 I think it could be a guilty thing where you feel that it should've been you who died and not the other person. It's a huge problem with people who have PTSD from war, many blame themselves for not taking the bullet for their closest friends when both didn't have the power to change the outcome. The whole "why couldn't it be me"
I made the mistake of commenting before I had finished the video. I was half asleep and thought Kaytlin (the victim) was the one who'd been texting people to hang out.
It already sounded like a setup right? 'Don't tell anyone you're with me' is a huge red flag; i cut a date short some years ago because the guy asked me "did you tell anyone you were going out with me today" yeah. Everyone i know. Im suddenly not so hungry matter of fact 🫤
Her demon story is literally the plot of supernatural 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh my god! What morons! And their child is named after the serial killer from Hero’s.
Supernatural does say it is based on a true story
1:14:13 That poor child, imagine finding out who your parents are😢😢😢😢😢 lay off the drugs
Yeah, that’s gonna be a hell of difficult conversation. At least he won’t brought up by these two, or ended up as one of their sacrifices.
From just a physical aspect. I hope the child doesn't inherit her chin.
Yeah too right. And did you notice how she said she would be missing her first Halloween? Not Christmas or birthdays, Halloween. Ughhhhh
Noticed that too. Halloween is cringe in itself.@Brenda-qe2ug
He will become a Republican congressman
44:25 this cop’s rant during the investigation is something I’d only expect to hear in TV show dialogue, it was frankly refreshing to hear him be so candid and mocking to her with his overwhelming disgust
Bad cop tactic… but very willing to bet he believed all of what he said to her in that speech.
I think that was a tactic to break the suspect away from a comfortable 'safe' conversation where they can continue to lie easily. It was over the top and theatrical to both match her ego and engage in her world. The hope is to get them to slip and it worked. She blurted out the 'babies have no souls' before realising what that implies
@@tomaiholt absolutely! Great interrogation skills by this detective.
@@Kelsey.Eno it’s fucking not
Cops are known to get fed up too
ah. now it’s a perfect saturday evening for an introvert, thanks to you.
How do we get over the anxiety
I love being a introvert. I really don't want to talk about it though😉
lmao me when im literally missing my last (and what would be 2nd if i went) hoco ever and bowling and a party w my friend group just to sit in bed with my cat and watch this lmao
@@chalbio If you have anxiety, you're anti-social, not an introvert. Introverts don't have social anxiety. They can socialize just fine, but in finite periods and need time alone to recharge, while extroverts need interaction to stay charged. Anti-social people, often mistaken for being bad or rude with no other state of behavior, are just people with things like social anxiety most the time. Yeah, some are horrible, but most just can't handle social interaction because of how much it scares them/makes them freak out. There's nothing wrong with being anti-social, but it is something to look at trying to get over. Only when you can do that, will you figure out if you're an introvert or extrovert. Odds are that you'll actually be an extrovert, as extroverts comprise something like 60-70% of the population.
Being an introvert isn't some super special status, that being said. It's weird to want to romanticize it.
@aquademoney it's all the energies ✨️🌹
Hearing something so gruesome took place in my town is so scary. Especially as a teenager. How have people not been talking about this ??
“I was born in the 1200s” has me ROLLING.
"the letter was in some other language" pffft roh Kay, girl. Could it possibly be Latin? Because a true devil' secretary would definitely know that much 😂😂😂😂 foh 🤡
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No cringeeloard is killing me this is even more cringe than the Richard McCluskey case
@@urjust2cool possibly Enochian. Keep your mouth closed on topics you don't understand, unless it's to ask questions.
I wonder if he worked at Sir Ronald's Roundtable back then 🍔🍟
Both of them saying they weren't freaked out/nervous by being arrested just tells you there's something off - an innocent person maybe wouldnt worry about things clearing up, but still feel irritated or nervous about the police stating "we know what you did, we have a lot of evidence", when you don't even know what they're accusing you of. I know it would freak ME out to be in handcuffs even if i didn't do anything.
You can have no emoti9ns and not want to go to jail but most of you don't quite comprehend how that shit works because you're people of average intelligence.
@yokai-vr3jz so are you, youre the same as all us normie, live with it
@@yokai-vr3jzso edgy
Did you see their text messages? They literally planned this and got off on it. There are people like this all over the world
As he said, psychopaths don’t feel anxiety (well, he said he’s a sociopath, not a psychopath).
The sacrifice detective had me rolling
Dude is a weirdo. He probably went home and squeezed into a mini skirt and Heels and watched Ghostbusters 2016.
Seriously? You must be one demented human being.
"Here's to you Satan !" 💀💀💀 Bro was on one 😂😂😂
Bigtine "dwight schrute" energy 😂😂
@@foreverblessed3511I think he was hoping for some weird sex.
Even when they are pressing, these detectives uphold the comedic standard to a level of excellence.
couldn't help but crack up at the detective when he lost his cool and started calling her evil, soulless, etc.
He sounded a bit ridiculous honestly.
@@that.ll_do_pig It was absolutely outrageous. I immediately wasnt impressed by his performative outburst. I honestly think that the man who was sitting there, the one who did the technology forensics (I forget the exact title) was thinking the same thing, when that detective exited stage left while reciting his soliloquy.
@@AkCadianhmm I think the outburst at her was a tactic to make her flustered and say something she shouldn't
@@lunatuna313 I don't think it was a tactic but it's understandable that he was frustrated. I could only imagine how irritating it would be to sit across a killer that's giggling during the entire interview, having no care in the world for what they've done... but he's still the interrogator and it's his job to maintain his cool even in the face of lunatics like her.
Of course you are more offended by yelling then the death of an innocent girl. What is wrong with you?
The "drake" edit with the ghost of himself basically, sitting next to him 😭😂 took me ouuuut
What’s the timestamp for this?
@@drazlet1:05:53
Eeeeeveeeeiiil Drake 😂
I’m so perplexed as to how many people plan out murderous intentions via electronic communications 😂
Just go sit in a park with your twisted friends and talk quietly amongst yourselves 🤷♂️
😂🤣 Me too
I would have lost it if they put the rapper drake there as a ghost 👻 😂
Not finished with the video yet but bless that 911 caller. He was so shaken up. I cant imagine walking upon a scene like that.
You’d be shook. I don’t know why you’re criticizing this man
@@Donny_Double_Dip they arent, theyre sympathizing with him.
@@Funkybunky777 what would you do in that situation?!?
@@Donny_Double_Dip you’re 12 aren’t you?
@@Donny_Double_Dipbro are you alright in the head?
I don’t understand how she got charged as a juvenile for murder when so many young black people get charged as adults for lesser crimes.
The law goes way too easy on white women. It's really outrageous, I agree
She was certainly plenty old enough to be charged as an adult. After
what she did, it is outrageous she wasn't charged as an adult.
SHIIIIET NOT DA POOR BLACK FOLKS
No, actually, they don't. And why are you bringing race into this?
All dem yung black kangz being charged as adults 🤦🏻♂️
I don't understand why people don't think about "the reasons why I can't go to jail" before they commit a crime. Especially like murder. How did you not think about your son and all the things you would miss out on, before you took someone's life? That is just absolutely wild.
Yeah, this is the lesson I learned from these videos: nobody thinks about the consequences beforehand. So, if you find yourself in a situation that seems stupid or unfavorable for a crime and think you might be safe, you're not.
The child would be better off without his mom and dad so they don't put their beliefs on him
@@nikolay2256I think a lot think about the consequences beforehand. They are to be found amongst those who are not in jail/trial.
Because they’re narcissists, they’re self-entitled
I would hope most people think that way, but these two psychos aren't most people.
The time that high schoolers used Facebook feels so long ago
Fr I don't know at what point it went from the platform all the kids and everyone had to being uncool.
CHOCOLATE RAIN
I graduated in 2009 and used MySpace and Facebook…..you couldn’t make money off UA-cam yet i miss those days
Marketplace is all the rage.
Now it's cringe ahh tik tok
Both are absolute Maniacs, and im glad their rotting in jail, Kaytlin was a friend, a sister, and she definitely did not deserve this. She always brought a smile to my face with her bubbly and bright personality. I love you girl, still cant believe its been 8 yrs since youve been taken from us 💔😭
So sorry for your loss ❤
So sorry you lost your friend.
Very sorry for your loss. She is your Angel now. RIP
I'm so sorry for your loss. May Kaytlin RIP 🙏 🙏
i'm so sorry for your loss love 💕💗
Ive watched so many of these videos but not all of them. From what ive seen though these are the best detectives/interrogator ive ever seen on these videos.
45:15 “Baby’s souls are worthless” Gurl HOW DO YOU THINK YOU CAN KEEP PLAYING DUMB TO THE COPS WITH REMARKS LIKE THIS
She def thought that would scare him😂😂
Typical cringelord behavior. Look, I'm so dark and spoooky!!
@@dissraps woah there bud - big leap in change of topic, AND huge generalization of women. I’m a woman that doesn’t feel that way (about what you’re talking about), and there’s plenty women out there who also don’t. But even so, please don’t villainize all women about the very complex and controversial topic you’re implying, and you definitely know my comment wasn’t talking about that lol. This is not the place or platform to debate this please
@@dissraps wtf
Hello mr off topic @@dissraps
The fact that people like this have children together disgusts me in ways I cannot describe.
People who don't need to be parents happens everyday
@@Decades-pl2kl yeah it doesn’t take much brain power to make a child unfortunately
@Decades-pl2kl truth
I agree. But some parents are just the vessel that God uses to bring a child into this world. It the card the child was dealt. But God makes sure that child has everything they need to get through it and grow. This is not me oking evil people. But I can relate to being that child.
I worked with Amanda at the North Belt Pizza Hut at the time she and Sebastian murdered Root.
Not only did she laugh here but while I worked with her she made jokes about hiding her body in the park until someone just finds her in the few days it took to arrest her.
As coworkers we were all just talking about the murder because we all knew it involved a girl our age that got killed since we were all in our late teens, and she just walks up, interrupts the convo and says “OR you could just leave the body at Krug Park and wait for people to find it!” And walked back off doing this cringey ass laugh. We all were shook to our core when she didn’t show up to work in the next few days. For the ones in my replies, no we did not know she killed her and no this was not the first crazy edgy remark made by Amanda in general (she said weird dark shit all the time, she joked about deaths and suicide all the time) so we all just passed it off as her being a cringey weirdo as per the norm. We all found out after she had already confessed and was going to go to prison and the whole town knew it. (We worked with her mom too so our manager did not disclose what happened until it was public knowledge)Idk why we didn’t call and make a report with police, but we were kids, and we were still in shock about the whole ordeal.
The thing that really just sucks is that her mom was a very sweet woman and was one of the nicest people you met (she worked at north belt Pizza Hut as well) and she was trying her ass off to help Amanda but I think just didn’t know how or all the help she was trying to give just wasn’t utilized by Amanda.
idk how tru this is but if it is that's crazy
This might just be a misunderstanding, coming from my first language not being English... but why the heck did you and your co-workers not immediately call police whenever you became aware of her involvement? The way you worded your comment (again, sorry if I am just misreading it) sounds almost as if y'all were _KNOWING_ but just didn't care, all the way up until she stopped showing up to work and it was like: "Oh shit, this is real..."
@@ImagineThatAbs They are teens, in 99.9% cases they are just trying to be edgy/ cool and not actually murdered someone, even more considering this was Tumblr era and she seems to be goth/ grudge aesthethics. I totally see how someone would just think it's just that.
@@ThraxxMediaOfficial No none of us knew we just knew a girl our age was murdered at the park and they were questioning people our age. And if you think a bunch of 16-18 year olds are gonna jump and call the cops on a satanist that said strange off the cuff shit all the time you’re mistaken. She made attempts at dark humor that never landed with anyone and always just came across as dark and in bad taste so we viewed it as that. She joked about the suicide of a classmate and celebrities that killed themselves and the other murders in saint Joe. If we called the cops on every teen that said some weird dark stuff we would have been arrested for wasting police resources.
@@ImagineThatAbs hindsight is always 20/20; but if we do what you’re saying which is call the cops everytime a teen who is an active satanist and cringe lord makes shitty attempts at dark humor we’d be charged for wasting police resources as 99% of the time they’re just saying some bullshit. We thought she was weird but none of us thought she would murder someone like that.
Idk how long it’s been since you were a teenager but I feel like you’d be surprised by the sheer number of teens that act like her but never go on to brutally murder someone…
She technically tried to ask for a lawyer
She did, and it was ignored. It's also her right to have a lawyer present
@@kayarose922She maybe have technically tried but legally speaking you have to make an unequivocal request. If there is any room for misinterpretation, that burden lies on you to further explain that you would like to cease questioning and speak with an attorney.
Do not let these people out of prison.
I love how you guys have a very concise way of storytelling. You talk about each moment, chronologically like an actual story but without trying to make a show out of it to bait people. It's just facts told in a very non confusing way. That's what true journalism is. Much love to this channel from brazil ;)
A really great channel.
Ugh, Amanda is so annoying. I feel sorry for her baby boy.
Kamala voters. 😂
She's definitely tweaking hard!!
He is better off with her out of his life. Let's hope he is with a loving family
@@PBRRoughStockRanch the fact you injected literally unrelated politics in to this proves you’re of a weaker, more simple minded stock. Keep worrying about who the president is instead of what YOU do to help society… because you come off like a freeloading POS when you ride the meat of a president 😬. No one does that except you.
@@PBRRoughStockRanch????
She talks like someone in medieval times would.
"Oh dear, I have these unwanted thoughts of murder. There must be a demon in me."
lol that’s not like medieval times at all.
She has the nerve to call the detective evil for suggesting she'd want to kill her baby when she LITERALLY STABBED SOMEONE TO DEATH! 😡
Immediately after that she says babies soul are worthless...that threw me because I've studied luciferian/occult teachings and babies are at the top of the list for souls due to their innocence and growth hormones etc. There are 100% people on earth right now drinking babies blood for the anti aging properties.
She even said, "Baby souls are worthless." Does that exclude your kid? I don't think so- 😢
@@Cadence__1700 when she said that she literally confirmed that she did it 😤
She is 5-foot-11. Her boyfriend is 5-8. Weird.
@@henryt9281what does height have anything to do with this…?
She actually thought she might get house arrest. This mop head is just that stupid.
Whte peoples entitled and lack of Accountability gets Us here
@@Kenyas You are a racist.
@@KenyasAnd your racism gets nobody anywhere.
@@Kenyasyour stupidity keeps you right where you are and you're not going anywhere 😂 🤡
@@Kenyaslol 🤣😂😂😂🤣😆😅 oh geez boi
The first Amanda was high asf
She could NOT sit still
@@hibiscustea13 why must that be drugs? ADHD also makes it happen.
@@xinpingdonohoe3978 nah junkie knows what junkies look like and behave. Shes 110% drug addict. Speech patterns, gettin angry very fast and its not her first rodea with cops.
Im not claiming she doesnt have adhd but its not the sole reason why she acts like that.
definitely high af!
@@xinpingdonohoe3978because she showed all the signs of being on drugs! Way different than someone who has ADHD..and because I'm a recovered addict I know all the signs.
you are the nest because you subtitle everything👍
"Her eyes were wide open they were brown" i can imagine that man will never ever forget those eyes, or her face. That's terrifying
This breaks my heart for him. It really does. The careless and absolutely diabolical act has now affected someone who wasn't remotely involved. He doesn't have answers. And the description of the eyes is a human thing, I think. We communicate with our eyes, and to see them not respond must shake you to your primitive core.
Nobody in that situation would. Imagine what homicide detectives and crime scene staff have to witness
@@phthalogreenbeanI know someone who witnessed a similar thing and I can confirm it f*cks you up for YEARS. They would talk about it with a 1,000 yard stare and then just brake down.
@@Decades-pl2kl you definitely get desensitised to it. more impactful for a random jogger than say a mortician.
I have so much respect for detectives from watching this show, these men are true artists with their work. These were by far my favorite, they were so ruthless and called them out in the best ways possible no funny business. Much respect to them.
RIP Kaytlin I’m sorry you came across these monsters. Condolences to the family.
My favorite is the one from the Stephen McDaniel, in the pink shirt 😂 “you haven’t done laundry in a week? That’s nasty Stephen, that’s horrrible..” all with a Georgia southern drawl! 😂😂
My favorite is the one from the Stephen McDaniel, in the pink shirt 😂 “you haven’t done laundry in a week? That’s nasty Stephen, that’s horrrible..” all with a Georgia southern drawl! 😂😂
And we don't know how it affects the detective's after seeing all this, remember they have to sort through every little detail to get to the bottom of it and it's not pretty I'm surprised some of them don't have to go to therapy after these murder cases
This is one case that has left me speechless due to the sheer stupidity involved & the senselessness of the crime. RIP to that poor girl she had to of been so very scared & confused in her last moments. Smh.
2nd degree murder?!?!? It was 100% premeditated!!!! Wtf is wrong with our criminal justice system?
Plea deals are what's wrong . Too lazy to do a trial
Her saying that she has to keep an eye on him because he’s pretty is making me laugh so hard! This man is sooooo unattractive! 😂😂
omfg literally?? looks like they both don’t shower 😭
St Joseph area is a huge meth town lmao she probably thought he was Prince Charming after the meth kicked in 😂😂
Unattractive to YOU, she killed for him!
They’re both busted as fuck😂😂😂
@@akeyladog420 killed for the most lesser than mid man ever and now she doesn't even get to see him for the rest of her life 😭
That detective is so good at dealing with miss freak show.
I disagree
@@RexCGB I misagree
@@RexCGB They did a good job getting answers you need to play with people's phycology to get answers look at one point where one told you a killer and ran a few sentences go out it plays on emotions one guy worked 30+ years this see lot even properly more creepy thinks but his say look its worst you pressure that way think person to talk try find solution because picture dosent look good everybody talks on some point if not now later
@@Ktranphoto I thisagree
@@clicheguevara5282I pissagree
Poor kid was nice to someone who seemed to need a friend. What a betrayal.
And that is exactly why you don't befriend weirdos.
@@stacibennett4753 you're part of the problem. not all weirdos are psycho murderers. this is why there are so many lonely people and why there's a suicide epidemic. speaking from experience as a lonely weirdo outcast who is not a psycho murderer.
@@flannelpillowcase6475It's not everybody's job to be everybody's friend. Blaming someone for not befriending weird people is crazy...
They aren't disabled, they don't have a mental disability, so don't drag people like it's discriminatory.
Coddling these people justifies their behavior and makes them a bomb waiting to explode.
@@flannelpillowcase6475don’t be friends with psychos whatever idc. If someone wants to praise devil and brag about murder don’t be friends with them
@@flannelpillowcase6475 It’s better to overreact than to not react enough. If one person doesn’t want to befriend you, there are 8 billion other people on the planet. I used to believe it was my job to be “a good person” to those who are less fortunate. It turns out, I cannot project kindness onto others. Someone ill-intentioned or simply self-serving, will not hold back just because I befriended them.
“ When do I ask for a lawyer?”
You can ask whenever you want … if that’s what you want to do.
“ well you guys think I did something so I think I should go for it”
At the time of the murder, Amanda was 16 years old, now the day of this interview she is 17 and still a minor ..
Her asking about a lawyer should have stopped any interview … without knowing anything else about this case I wonder if this interrogation was thrown out.
That's not asking for a lawyer.
asking about asking for a lawyer doesn't mean the cops have to stop interrogating you. In fact, even if you do request a lawyer, the police can still ask you questions, especially if you continue to respond. There's a reason why when you request for a lawyer you are suppose to refuse to answer any other questions until your lawyer is present.
Thanks EWU!! This Is The Best Crime Channel on UA-cam 💯💯
yes indeed it is
@@JadeRavenwolf You guys do see the "explore with us" in the video? That is another channels content
@@DreaMeRHoLicprecisely what EWU stands for..
@@DreaMeRHoLicyou're slow 😂😂😂
@@DreaMeRHoLic 🙄 you’re not a detective are you?
How were they able to plead to second-degree instead of first-degree murder when this was in fact EXTREMELY premeditated?
My guess is that they couldn't prove it was premeditated
Probably diminished responsibility due to mental illness and medications.
Prosecutors Love Plead Bargains
They probably both blamed the other as the orchestrator.
@@manny4833that's because if just one person of the jury finds them not guilty, then your prosecution is toast. Therefore they prefer pleas for cases that are not airtight.
She's that weird girl from middle school who never fully grew up mentally.
What the kind that still goes to Disney every year at 27... And gets drunk there and has no kids. And makes a fool of herself in front of a bunch of random families. (My ex)
She had the nerve to say “well there’s house arrest” smh girl you are going to prison !!!!!
She is insufferable already. Egomaniac.
I also don't get why Sebastian chose her. She's both crazy, and not so good looking.
You said it, they're both crazy
Don't forget that there are lots of people who'd consider you a b*tch too. That doesn't mean you're a killer.
Try sticking to the facts.
real. knew a mf like this that literally romanticized her mental disorder. her user is like, bipolar princess or something like that it's so cringe and she's 22 a mom with TWO KIDS (who got taken away in the divorce with her second baby daddy, the first one khs but still)
@@xinpingdonohoe3978Like that high school dropout is God's gift to "weman" himself. 😂
I really appreciate the editing - fast forwarding to the relevant details while still showing the interrogation process. I guess Storytime doesn't use the experts to point out body language and interrogation techniques like the main EWU channel? I dig that
When the suspect (the girl Amanda) says there are 7 murders this year....& the detective says, "Who ever said we were investigating a murder?" 😮
She probably knows what happened.
@@PlatinumHustlewonder why the number 10 was on the bottle? Possibly for the next 10th victim? Think they were on a spree tbh.
@ me too lol they lost in this world and thought all the Hollywood movies and scary stories would really work 🤣🤦🏾♂️ they were probably high
And she followed it up with "that you know of." 100% agree that this isn't their first victim.
@@Ashton123082that’s what they want you to think and it’s why she said it, don’t be an idiot lmao.
2:30
“The eyes are wide open, they’re brown”
The way he said that hurt. Those eyes are gonna haunt him for the rest of his life.
The novelty will ware off after she's spent her first decade, locked up in prison.
A Decade??? Tuh! I give her 10 minutes; at best😂😂😂 she has no clue
Ridiculous comment.
She's seems like those lefties that refuses to accept reality. Reality is going to hit her hard when the silly quirky and edgy attitude doesn't work in prison. She's the epitome of a tiktok brain.
@WFPbbk why?
They’ll both be up for parole in 25yrs, unless you hear life WITHOUT PAROLE that’s what it is. Idk why but this is the deal they gave them.😱
RIP Kaytlin. Thank you EWU Crime Storytime 💠
"Each demon has a secretary" Wasn't expecting that line! It's scary to think idiots like these are walking around in public and the fact that she has a kid makes it so much worse.
That is literally straight out of the show "supernatural " it's pathetic. Decent show....but come ON 😂
It's scary that people like this vote.
Could you imagine what that little child would grow up as if they had been caught he would be very confused and have a life of hell
Wait 'til you find out the majority of the population believes in a god who sends angels to talk to humans to pass on rules that they want you to follow.
The masses are mentally ill... but I'm not surprised its not more widely discussed, as they aren't going to admit themselves that they're delusional.
I just love EWU crime storytime...I love this man's voice too...Always gripping video's to get your teeth into..Thank you
I love the detective singing the theme tune to 'Love Boat' to her, forgetting that she's 17 years old and likely hasn't got a clue what the reference is. 😂❤
😂😂 detective was having too much fun
When you see a detective get so angry at someone, you understand that he has never dealt with someone this crazy, calculated, and emotionless
Or he's just playing his role, trying to get a rise out of her.
yea, she's heartless and soulless. She even said baby's dont have souls so they wouldn't be good sacrifice to satan. I do think the detective got a bit angry but at the same time he was using some great tactics to get under her skin as well.
They were playing “good cop, bad cop”, an interrogation technique.
It’s an interrogation technique.
I wouldn't call her calculated lol.
Homegirl watched Hellraiser and thought it was a documentary.
Hey! Don’t disrespect Pinhead! 🤣🤣🤣
@@emilyspector2728 who you calling pinhead, pinhead?!!
Lmaooo I swear they did thought it was real that’s crazy
What a cliché. Claiming that you're under demonic possession or claiming insanity is an excuse to avoid taking responsibility for their actions.
I don't believe a single word of her "confession". She was absolutely the driving force behind what had happened. No doubt.
I think they both were. The messages between them show they were both really engaged in trying to find a victim. She was psychotic, i'm confident about that and he claims to be a sociopath which given hat's happened is very likely. Not a good mix.
@@faceless3433 Oh absolutely both were, no doubt. But those fake tears she was putting on were as transparent as newly polished glass
These two probably think Buffy The Vampire Slayer is a documentary
Buffy is one of the greatest TV shows of all time
@@SugarCyanide-p8d better than the Boondocks?
Supernatural too.
No more ridiculous than believing the bible lol
@@SugarCyanide-p8d really? Even better than the Bооndосks?
Here's a thing that people need to realize with dissociative personality disorder It doesn't matter which of your personalities committed the murder you both are going to prison in one body to one cell.
It's all bs anyway, just their way of reasoning.
Yep cause if one alter is capable of murder and is dangerous the whole person is dangerous it’s not common in did but when it is they can’t risk the alter that’s dangerous being out and running around
He didn't need to mention that about himself, or that 'Drake' was violent at all. He seemed to be trying to blame it on her, so in a way it was a sort of confession to his part in the violence but gave him an excuse not to be able to recall it. He could well be a sociopath but I don't buy the split personality story. There was planning involved, messaging at various times. He can't argue 'it was always Drake' lol.
That disorder is a joke. 99.9% of the people who claim to have it are just desperate for attention.
You're funny but it is true!!!!!
"hell is like an office building"...soo corporate America is hell...ok that checks out
It's amazing how quick True love fades when they're in separate interrogation rooms. 🤣
This was in my hometown! I worked with Katelyns mother! It was awful! Jamie was completely heartbroken! I didn't know this was that case when I clicked on the video. Rip Katelyn! You were a beautiful girl and had a beautiful soul!
So sad. A parent should never have to bury a child. Praying for her family.
❤❤❤❤❤FAMILY
How was that not 1st degree? This was clearly planned and premeditated.
Really. DA’s seem to give young people a break for some reason. Second degree may also be easier to get a conviction with jury. Anyway, I don’t think it’s right which really doesn’t matter tho.
They plead guilty to 2nd degree so they didn't go to trial for 1st degree
Got life anyway so whatever
Amanda sounds like my emotionally abusive best friend I had from ages 6-16. She giggles and laughs and treats this situation like a joke at anytime she can, it’s gross. My friend actually said one time that if they got arrested it’s probably be for murder, and then proceeded to laugh about it. Anytime they’ve ever been told “you hurt my feelings” it was always “how dare you get mad at me for my actions” or would make a joke about it and tell you you’re overreacting and stupid. They also REALLY enjoyed the fact that I and people like their boyfriend treated them like a god. They got off on control a lot and would brag about being able to make people do
Something. I haven’t had any contact with them in 2 years but I hope for the safety of others that they’ve changed cause now I have 10 years of trauma responses to undo from the way I was treated.