Thank you very much for explaining the whole process. My bathtub had the same problem, I even had to replace the spring and rubber gasket. And luckily it was the same make and model that you used. Although I had my doubts, I did it and everything was perfect. Total repair cost $39.00. Excellent.
Larry, Thanks for the video. Showing that you had to pull up on the valve with pliers to remove it was the info I needed. By the way, my tub filler faucet is from 1998 and it's the exact same replacement valve as you used. I also replaced the spring with the cup washer and noticed it had some calcium buildup in the hole it fits in so I cleaned that off so the rubber cup washer wouldn't get stuck on it. Now everything is leak free.
Thank you so much for sharing your repair! I'm about to attack the same problem on the same faucet (but mine leaks from the spout). After watching your video I am now confident that I got the right parts and that I can make the repair and not get stuck with the water to the house shut off!
This video was a life saver. My tub faucet has been leaking for awhile now and l didn’t know how to fix it. This video was great and the process was simple. Thanks 😊
Thank you and thank you. Plumber wanted to replace the entire faucet, knock a hole in the tiles on side of roman tub....for $2K. Thanks to your video In was able to replace the cartridge but also needed to replace the seat and spring. Thanks again.
I have the exact same faucet. Does anyone know the model number? The screw attaching the spout to the water pipe will not tighten because the the threaded hole is stripped. I would like to replace the spout, but don't know the model number. I've read that the number is located on a tag on the water line, but getting to it would require removing tiles.
After getting everything replaced, one handle is now at a right angle to where it should be because it appears that the bracket in the process of removing the old cartridge managed to get turned 45°. I've tried a couple different ways to see if I could get it to rotate back 45° and so far everything just feels like I want to break something inside so I think we're going to have one handle north south and one handle east west.
Larry how do I line up the knobs after replacing them? I replaced the valve and marked where it should line up but the mark came off when the water came out and now the handle/knob is in the wrong direction.
bryan jones Shut off the water and remove the valve. Rotate it 180 degrees, either direction and re-insert it. It should seat properly. Test the handle to make sure it is going in the correct direction and then tighten the valve assembly. That should take care of it. If you look in the hole you should be able to see how the valve assembly fits down in there. Good Luck.
I believe the stops on the valve allow for four - 1/4 turns. Shut off the water and pull the valve and rotate 1/4 turn, left or right and that should align it the way you want.
my problem is when I have the cold water turned on and then turn it off water drips from the faucet, could it just be the spring and seat need to be replaced but not the valve? Or should all 3 be replaced? Thanks
Jim Lord If you look at the reply given by ratliff2006, he/she states which part is responsible. I am not sure if you can get replacement springs and seals, mine came with the valve. But he/she states that Delta will send them to you if you can wait for them. Good luck.
Sorry for the late reply. Yes, it very probably is the small seal at the bottom of the valve that I mentioned. You can buy those parts separately and they are quite inexpensive when compared to the actual valve. To get the water out, I use a turkey blaster to suck out the water around the seal. Make sure to insert the small end of the spring into the rubber seal and place it into the hole, spring side down. Replace the valve and tighten and you should be drip free.
I have the same Delta Roman tub deck mount. My leak is happening under the facet handles. When I pull the tub panel off, there are black cartridges under each knob. Then there is a solid piece of copper and a flexible piece of copper that comes out the bottom of the cartridge. That is where my leak is on both faucets. the leak is coming from the bottom of the cartridge and dripping down the solid and flex copper. Will this valve replacement repair that or is the housing cartridge the issue? Delta just sent me the whole new rough in kit for free. But if I can just pull the new valve out of the new rough in and reset it in the existing housing, that should stop my leak if I put the new spring and seat the rubber boot over top then drop the cartridge in, will I be good?
The rough-in kit is a lot of work. I would try the valve replacement first. Take a plumber’s 3/4” wire brush and make sure there is no scale built up in the cartridge chamber. Put in a new, matching, spring and rubber piece. Before inserting the new cartridge use your finger to make sure the spring and gasket are fully seated in its hole. Once I take off the large nut that secures the cartridge, I take a photo with your phone so I can make sure I re-insert the new valve correctly with the proper plastic piece inserted correctly. Then snug the locking cap down securely, not gorilla tight, but snug. Good luck.
@@larrypatterson3957 You ROCK, Sir!!! Ty for getting back to me so fast. Yes, I know exactly what you are talking about with that spring. I made a total idiot move, that nut was lose under the faucet for whatever reason, When I pulled the handle off and felt that the lock down nut was lose it shot straight into the air, of course it was the hot water side. So as water is hitting the ceiling I did what came natural, put my hand over top and scalded my hand from the hot water as Im screaming for help to have someone shut off the water, THANK GOD, I was able to reach down with my other hand and pull the shut off lever I remembered seeing under the tub, thank GOD the first lever I grabbed was the hot water shut off. This dude had has his hot water tank set to the hottest setting to fill up his tub. So when I tell u this water was scolding hot, I mean it! But ya that boot and spring shot out, I already had the drain covered so I was able to find both pieces. It was self explanatory where the spring needs to be seated and the concave rubber goes into the housing. I'm about to go repair this faucet for a good friend of mine and hopefully save him some good money! I just wanted to ask someone with more experience with this set up, wanted to dig around a little and see if the housing the facilitates the valve goes bad or not. From the sounds it should just be the valve, spring, and rubber seal. Again, thank you for your freaky fast response, brother!!
Larry, I have the exact same faucet set in a newly purchased home. Can you help to identify the Delta series or model number or part number or something that will help me. I have searched the Delta site, but to no avail. Thank you.
Paula Jacoby - I am sorry I didn’t see your question. I had the same problem with my search. Our house was built in 2004 and I cannot find the model in the Delta catalog either. I took the valve out and went to the hardware store and matched it up to solve the issue. Good luck.
There is no identifying model # on my Roman Delta Faucet either. I called Delta and they sent me a free rough in kit that normally cost $328.00 Now I'm hoping I can take the valves out of the new one and put in the existing one so I don't have to sweat all that in again. My water is leaking from the bottom of the cartridge where the solid and flex copper pipe comes out the bottom of the cartridge. Water is dripping down the flex and solid copper pipe to the sub floor.
Sorry, Larry. I didn't mean the RP number. I saw that on your video, which I watched three times. I am referring to the actual spout and/or handle trim numbers. If I can identify the trim package, I can try to identify the rough-in. I'm thinking it may be R2707, but that is only a guess. If you can shed any light on the spout-trim number, that could help. Thanks again.
Paula Jacoby You can always carefully take apart the other valve assembly to verify the correct position. The black gasket is a seal that goes against the ball.
I wish you would addressed how the spring and black seat gasket stack up. My spring popped out and I can’t tell whether or not the spring stacks with the black seat gasket or if it drops into an opening beside it
Same issue - I have no idea if the spring sits on top of the black gasket or under. Also there are two (2) holes in the faucet; one straight down and one at an angle. I'm guessing the install is straight down and the spring goes in first to push the gasket UP against the valve. And thanks for taking the time to record and post video's like this to help others out - it is much appreciated!
Water gets hot then cold after some time. I think I have a bad cartridge. The rest of the house stays hot. I only have problems with this tub that gets cold. Would you change the cartridge or is it something else?
Do you have a single water heater? If so, and the rest of the house stays hot, then changing the valve seems like a reasonable path to follow. I am not a plumber. Maybe talk to someone at Home Depot or Lowe's plumbing dept.
@@larrypatterson3957 I have 2 water heaters but everything is a piping hot. The shower next to the bathtub stays hot. I think something’s up with the plumbing. I’ll definitely talk to someone. Appreciate the help!
I also have two water heaters. My wife noticed that one was losing temperature. The suspect heater was failing and ended up causing water damage. Really check the suspect heater to see if it is performing properly.
If you are in a single family residence there is usually a shut-off valve by the front door or garage. If you can't find it there is also a shut-off on your side of the water meter. If no luck, call your water department. If the valve is on the street side of the meter, the water dept. has to turn that one as it belongs to them.
Haven’t a clue. The Delta website has photos of all of their products, including obsolete faucets. Mine are 2000 vintage and I can’t find a photo of one in their catalog. However, the valve body I listed for it works.
I got the part from the home depot, however the middle piece where the water comes out of the facuet is my problem it is stripped and is leaking into tmy basement
Dawn Paolino If the part is stripped then you will probably have to replace the faucet. That is not necessarily a job that you want to tackle as a do-it-yourselfer. Check at Home Depot and see if they have a plumber for that department that you can talk to and ask them for advice. They maybe able to help you with your issue. Good Luck.
@@larrypatterson3957 Delta valves for ours are not cheap, it's a Delta valve cartridge Model #RP25513 try $15.98 at our local Lowe's store. I will try replacing the hot first
It is different in many homes. A condo will have a single shut-off by the meter. Single family homes and duplexes often have a shut-off valve near a hose bibb nearest the street below the pressure reducer. If not sure, call your water company.
What really annoys me in these things is "this pulls right off". I have literally never had a handle pull right off. It's a battle with gallons of WD-40 or PB blaster and and I wish someone would do a actual real world video of how to actually get the handles off after you've remove the set screw.
Why wouldn’t you replace the $3 spring and seat when you had it apart ? Leaking or not. New cartridge-new spring and seat- no call backs. To each his own I guess.
Bennett Hastings - I replace the valve because it was leaking from under the faucet (bell shaped) handle. If yours is dripping from the spigot, you need to replace the spring and rubber seal as well. They are available as well where you got the valve from. They come in a box with two different size springs and two different size rubber seals. Replace yours with the same size spring/seal combination. Also, make sure you tighten the nut that secures the valve. Don’t be a gorilla on it but do tighten it securely. I bought a cheap set of different types of needle-nose pliers from Harbor Freight. The small set is spring loaded to keep them open. That makes it ideal for removing and replacing the spring/seal combo. Close the handle, insert in the hole in the center of the seal and let go. The needle-nose spring will hold open the pliers to remove the items. To install, reverse the procedure. Put the seal on the spring and insert the plier and let go. The plier spring will hold them both while you insert it. Worked great for me. Good luck.
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I appreciate you taking th time to show how to do this. Saved me $$$$!!
Thank you very much for explaining the whole process. My bathtub had the same problem, I even had to replace the spring and rubber gasket. And luckily it was the same make and model that you used. Although I had my doubts, I did it and everything was perfect. Total repair cost $39.00. Excellent.
I’m glad it worked for you, Good job!
Larry, Thanks for the video. Showing that you had to pull up on the valve with pliers to remove it was the info I needed. By the way, my tub filler faucet is from 1998 and it's the exact same replacement valve as you used. I also replaced the spring with the cup washer and noticed it had some calcium buildup in the hole it fits in so I cleaned that off so the rubber cup washer wouldn't get stuck on it. Now everything is leak free.
Complete and thorough. Nice to have good advice as close as youtube.
Thank you so much for sharing your repair! I'm about to attack the same problem on the same faucet (but mine leaks from the spout). After watching your video I am now confident that I got the right parts and that I can make the repair and not get stuck with the water to the house shut off!
Glad I could be of help. Hope all goes well with your project. Best Regards, Larry P.
This video was a life saver! If you have an old faucet give it a whirl!
This video was a life saver. My tub faucet has been leaking for awhile now and l didn’t know how to fix it. This video was great and the process was simple. Thanks 😊
Glad I could help.
Michael Shake - Glad it helped you out. Good call on removing the calcium build-up while you had it apart.
Thanks for your video it was truly helpful. You saved me $300 from having to buy a replacement faucet.
Souvi BonJovi Glad I could help.
Thank you and thank you. Plumber wanted to replace the entire faucet, knock a hole in the tiles on side of roman tub....for $2K. Thanks to your video In was able to replace the cartridge but also needed to replace the seat and spring. Thanks again.
That makes my day! Glad it helped you out!
Hi Ya Larry: Great video. Simple and Easy to understand, even for an electrician like me. Take Care Buddy.
Excellent video! Thank you so much for making this repair possible. My cartridge was slightly different (RP24096) but the technique was the same.
Glad I could help!
Awesome video... Helped me a ton. Thank you so much 😜
Thanks for the video! It made the job that much faster!
Glad it helped. Happy Holidays.
Thanks I just replaced both seats and springs sets in my faucet assembly!
Mario - Glad you were able to get the job done!
Thanks for this!
Nice Shirt Too! Go CERT!!!!
I have the exact same faucet. Does anyone know the model number? The screw attaching the spout to the water pipe will not tighten because the the threaded hole is stripped. I would like to replace the spout, but don't know the model number. I've read that the number is located on a tag on the water line, but getting to it would require removing tiles.
Great tutorial
Thanks saved my bacon on a Saturday night
Thank you.
Would this valve internals replacement address a passing or dropping faucet as well?
how do you change the whole faucet fixture?
After getting everything replaced, one handle is now at a right angle to where it should be because it appears that the bracket in the process of removing the old cartridge managed to get turned 45°. I've tried a couple different ways to see if I could get it to rotate back 45° and so far everything just feels like I want to break something inside so I think we're going to have one handle north south and one handle east west.
Larry how do I line up the knobs after replacing them? I replaced the valve and marked where it should line up but the mark came off when the water came out and now the handle/knob is in the wrong direction.
bryan jones Shut off the water and remove the valve. Rotate it 180 degrees, either direction and re-insert it. It should seat properly. Test the handle to make sure it is going in the correct direction and then tighten the valve assembly. That should take care of it. If you look in the hole you should be able to see how the valve assembly fits down in there. Good Luck.
Thank you sir
Hi Larry Where can I buy the parts ? Thanks!
Is there a way to adjust the cartridge housing so I can realign the handle to make it more symmetrical?
I believe the stops on the valve allow for four - 1/4 turns. Shut off the water and pull the valve and rotate 1/4 turn, left or right and that should align it the way you want.
my problem is when I have the cold water turned on and then turn it off water drips from the faucet, could it just be the spring and seat need to be replaced but not the valve? Or should all 3 be replaced? Thanks
Jim Lord If you look at the reply given by ratliff2006, he/she states which part is responsible. I am not sure if you can get replacement springs and seals, mine came with the valve. But he/she states that Delta will send them to you if you can wait for them. Good luck.
Sorry for the late reply. Yes, it very probably is the small seal at the bottom of the valve that I mentioned. You can buy those parts separately and they are quite inexpensive when compared to the actual valve. To get the water out, I use a turkey blaster to suck out the water around the seal. Make sure to insert the small end of the spring into the rubber seal and place it into the hole, spring side down. Replace the valve and tighten and you should be drip free.
I have the same Delta Roman tub deck mount. My leak is happening under the facet handles. When I pull the tub panel off, there are black cartridges under each knob. Then there is a solid piece of copper and a flexible piece of copper that comes out the bottom of the cartridge. That is where my leak is on both faucets. the leak is coming from the bottom of the cartridge and dripping down the solid and flex copper. Will this valve replacement repair that or is the housing cartridge the issue? Delta just sent me the whole new rough in kit for free. But if I can just pull the new valve out of the new rough in and reset it in the existing housing, that should stop my leak if I put the new spring and seat the rubber boot over top then drop the cartridge in, will I be good?
The rough-in kit is a lot of work. I would try the valve replacement first. Take a plumber’s 3/4” wire brush and make sure there is no scale built up in the cartridge chamber. Put in a new, matching, spring and rubber piece. Before inserting the new cartridge use your finger to make sure the spring and gasket are fully seated in its hole. Once I take off the large nut that secures the cartridge, I take a photo with your phone so I can make sure I re-insert the new valve correctly with the proper plastic piece inserted correctly. Then snug the locking cap down securely, not gorilla tight, but snug. Good luck.
@@larrypatterson3957 You ROCK, Sir!!! Ty for getting back to me so fast. Yes, I know exactly what you are talking about with that spring. I made a total idiot move, that nut was lose under the faucet for whatever reason, When I pulled the handle off and felt that the lock down nut was lose it shot straight into the air, of course it was the hot water side. So as water is hitting the ceiling I did what came natural, put my hand over top and scalded my hand from the hot water as Im screaming for help to have someone shut off the water, THANK GOD, I was able to reach down with my other hand and pull the shut off lever I remembered seeing under the tub, thank GOD the first lever I grabbed was the hot water shut off. This dude had has his hot water tank set to the hottest setting to fill up his tub. So when I tell u this water was scolding hot, I mean it! But ya that boot and spring shot out, I already had the drain covered so I was able to find both pieces. It was self explanatory where the spring needs to be seated and the concave rubber goes into the housing.
I'm about to go repair this faucet for a good friend of mine and hopefully save him some good money! I just wanted to ask someone with more experience with this set up, wanted to dig around a little and see if the housing the facilitates the valve goes bad or not. From the sounds it should just be the valve, spring, and rubber seal. Again, thank you for your freaky fast response, brother!!
@@censoreditali-american6487 Good luck!
So the spring goes in first than the rubber gasket on top?
Yes, the gasket meets up with the cartridge.
No, I searched Delta’s online catalogs and could not find a match. Seems pretty screwy to me.
Larry, I have the exact same faucet set in a newly purchased home. Can you help to identify the Delta series or model number or part number or something that will help me. I have searched the Delta site, but to no avail. Thank you.
Paula Jacoby - I am sorry I didn’t see your question. I had the same problem with my search. Our house was built in 2004 and I cannot find the model in the Delta catalog either. I took the valve out and went to the hardware store and matched it up to solve the issue. Good luck.
There is no identifying model # on my Roman Delta Faucet either. I called Delta and they sent me a free rough in kit that normally cost $328.00 Now I'm hoping I can take the valves out of the new one and put in the existing one so I don't have to sweat all that in again. My water is leaking from the bottom of the cartridge where the solid and flex copper pipe comes out the bottom of the cartridge. Water is dripping down the flex
and solid copper pipe to the sub floor.
Sorry, Larry. I didn't mean the RP number. I saw that on your video, which I watched three times. I am referring to the actual spout and/or handle trim numbers. If I can identify the trim package, I can try to identify the rough-in. I'm thinking it may be R2707, but that is only a guess. If you can shed any light on the spout-trim number, that could help. Thanks again.
Paula Jacoby You can always carefully take apart the other valve assembly to verify the correct position. The black gasket is a seal that goes against the ball.
I wish you would addressed how the spring and black seat gasket stack up. My spring popped out and I can’t tell whether or not the spring stacks with the black seat gasket or if it drops into an opening beside it
Same issue - I have no idea if the spring sits on top of the black gasket or under. Also there are two (2) holes in the faucet; one straight down and one at an angle. I'm guessing the install is straight down and the spring goes in first to push the gasket UP against the valve. And thanks for taking the time to record and post video's like this to help others out - it is much appreciated!
Water gets hot then cold after some time. I think I have a bad cartridge. The rest of the house stays hot. I only have problems with this tub that gets cold. Would you change the cartridge or is it something else?
Do you have a single water heater? If so, and the rest of the house stays hot, then changing the valve seems like a reasonable path to follow. I am not a plumber. Maybe talk to someone at Home Depot or Lowe's plumbing dept.
@@larrypatterson3957 I have 2 water heaters but everything is a piping hot. The shower next to the bathtub stays hot. I think something’s up with the plumbing. I’ll definitely talk to someone. Appreciate the help!
I also have two water heaters. My wife noticed that one was losing temperature. The suspect heater was failing and ended up causing water damage. Really check the suspect heater to see if it is performing properly.
Do you have to shut off the hot water supply from the heater or will the main shutoff suffice?
Main shutoff is ok. Open hot and cold faucets to drain water before proceeding.
@@larrypatterson3957 but won't you have to drain the hot water tank before the water will stop?
@@geauxtigrs no, because when the main is off there is no water pressure to push water out of the tank
Mine is not cutting off at all what could be causing that?
Go to the very end of the video. I show the box and part number. Delta RP25513.
This is a very good video. Do you know if this cartridge replacement is similar on other faucet brands?
I imagine they are. Contact the manufacturer for specifics.
@@larrypatterson3957 Thank you for answering my question.
how do you turn off the water supply
If you are in a single family residence there is usually a shut-off valve by the front door or garage. If you can't find it there is also a shut-off on your side of the water meter. If no luck, call your water department. If the valve is on the street side of the meter, the water dept. has to turn that one as it belongs to them.
What is the Delta model number for these faucets. Have the same one but can’t locate a diagram sheet but can’t locate one
Haven’t a clue. The Delta website has photos of all of their products, including obsolete faucets. Mine are 2000 vintage and I can’t find a photo of one in their catalog. However, the valve body I listed for it works.
@@larrypatterson3957 Thanks
what if the water is coming from the Middle the faucet and sometimes i can see it and it leaks into my basement is it the same process?
If the middle is leaking, I would replace both valves.
@@larrypatterson3957 It is a Lasco Model I can't find
I got the part from the home depot, however the middle piece where the water comes out of the facuet is my problem it is stripped and is leaking into tmy basement
Dawn Paolino If the part is stripped then you will probably have to replace the faucet. That is not necessarily a job that you want to tackle as a do-it-yourselfer. Check at Home Depot and see if they have a plumber for that department that you can talk to and ask them for advice. They maybe able to help you with your issue. Good Luck.
Mine is leaking out the spout so is that the spring and rubber seat ?
That is a typical symptom of a bad valve.
@@larrypatterson3957 thanks .. next question, is there any way to know if it's the cold or hot valve leaking?
Valves are cheap, like $3.00. Buy one of each. If you want to take a chance, try the hot water first. In my history they are the first to go.
@@larrypatterson3957 Delta valves for ours are not cheap, it's a Delta valve cartridge Model #RP25513 try $15.98 at our local Lowe's store. I will try replacing the hot first
Where did you turn off the water?
It is different in many homes. A condo will have a single shut-off by the meter. Single family homes and duplexes often have a shut-off valve near a hose bibb nearest the street below the pressure reducer. If not sure, call your water company.
Thank you.
you should say "large CONCAVE side down"
I just need to replace the spout in the middle but the video doesn't cover that.
RKGSD Sorry, I just showed how to replace the valve. Perhaps give Delta a call. They might be able to help. Good luck.
My experience has been just shut the main water shut off.
Most water heaters have a shut-off valve on the discharge side. Close that if needed.
I wish they’d shown how to shut the water off
Michelle Hood Look on UA-cam or ask a neighbor. It is different in most houses.
TW Lee - Ace Hardware, Home Depot, Lowe’s. Any good hardware store should have them.
You got to change the name of your video that's a cartridge replacement not a valve replacement
Thanks. That's what happens when you let an electrician do plumbing.
Sorry to be a pain, do you have the make and model numbe of your Delta Faucet kit?
I am only asking because this is the exact type i have.
The valve part number I used for my faucet was Delta RP25513 as shown at the end of the video.
What really annoys me in these things is "this pulls right off". I have literally never had a handle pull right off. It's a battle with gallons of WD-40 or PB blaster and and I wish someone would do a actual real world video of how to actually get the handles off after you've remove the set screw.
The trick was to get two pry bars, one on each side of the handle and Rock left right left right left right in order to get it off.
Why wouldn’t you replace the $3 spring and seat when you had it apart ? Leaking or not.
New cartridge-new spring and seat- no call backs. To each his own I guess.
Still leaks for me
Bennett Hastings - I replace the valve because it was leaking from under the faucet (bell shaped) handle. If yours is dripping from the spigot, you need to replace the spring and rubber seal as well. They are available as well where you got the valve from. They come in a box with two different size springs and two different size rubber seals. Replace yours with the same size spring/seal combination. Also, make sure you tighten the nut that secures the valve. Don’t be a gorilla on it but do tighten it securely. I bought a cheap set of different types of needle-nose pliers from Harbor Freight. The small set is spring loaded to keep them open. That makes it ideal for removing and replacing the spring/seal combo. Close the handle, insert in the hole in the center of the seal and let go. The needle-nose spring will hold open the pliers to remove the items. To install, reverse the procedure. Put the seal on the spring and insert the plier and let go. The plier spring will hold them both while you insert it. Worked great for me. Good luck.