Love your reviews. I like how you use the product for a few months before talking about it. Makes it a lot more genuine than all of the 'first impression' reviews that are all over UA-cam.
Give this guy some more likes y'all! Great extended review not normally seen on a single component. Picked these up on sale $50CAD/$36USD for the 56mm. Haven't got a chance to try them yet but happy that they sound like exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for the video!
Also Bones X99 is out, if you get a set you should make a video on what is the best all around all in one wheel for both smooth and rough surfaces: SFF4 97A, X97 or X99.
Thanks for showing the specs on the wheel and how it effects the hanger space. I wish you dropped this video a week earlier because I just scooped the Kader radial full 99a and some 215's. The radials are wide enough that I can rock them with Indy 169's on a 10" deck.
I think it's important to say that the 97s are slower on smooth ground than 99s or 101s. However, on rough ground or sidewalks it's easier to keep speed through crust or cracks due to the sofer urethane. I was considering switching from conical full 58 to radial full 56, but i think I'll stay on conical full. Mainly cause I don't wanna lose hangar space. I rotate between two sets of 58mm conical fulls 97 and 99. My park is grippy so I prefer the 99 there. But in the street or in indoor parks 97 everytime. My knees also hurt less from the vibrations when skating the 97s. It's gotten to the point where my 99s got put in a shoe box. Sure I miss the slide but the second I'm on anything other than perfect ground i don't regret changing. Looking forward to your review of radial 93s.
the powerslide fun/board control elements make these very enticing to ride with ventures which are very easy to initiate powerslides with on 6.1s and equally easy to control/setup speed overall. Those GX dudes are the living proof of the F4 97a's potential. Wouldnt hurt to have a similar setup as theirs in the quiver with some 97a conical fulls or radial fulls and 6.1 ventures.
I’m excited to try the new 60mm TFunk radial fulls in this 97d formula, I feel like it’ll be so fun on my wider boards & pushing through chewed up concrete
@@jesseboyd8660 hell yes!! I’m stoked you like em, my local out here didn’t have the 60mm so I settled for the 54mm radial fulls, they’re not too much heftier than the 53mm conical I’m used to but they feel way better to get from A to B, so I’d say $ well spent!!!
for me the contact patch is what attracts me to the radial fulls for sure with the edge profile/pop response similar to a classic or normal radial wheel. IDK if these get slightly wider as they wear the same way the conical full shape does To me its what attracts me MOST to the conical fulls...getting 56's and riding them down to 54-52mm...for an even WIDER patch than if you bought the 54s or 52mm conical fulls outright. While being able to take off the risers with ventures which are pretty bitey at those wheel sizes or need risers depending on your shaped decks wheel clearance. IDK something about a shaped board with 57s or 56's and no risers and having that snappy/response but still having a shape to ride in transition is really fun.
Hi man, thank you for this super helpful review! I just got some of these wheels in the post today.. I ride a larger deck (9"+), ans these wheels still look huge (compared to the Bones 58s I had on there before). Like you said, I think that the reduced hanger length is going to help out with locking in on coping.. Did you find any trouble unlocking from grinds/stalls?? They wheels are way lighter than I anticipated which is a plus. Stoked to give them a try. Thanks again!!
What's the differences between these SFF4 97A and Bones X97, I know you have ridden both types extensively, what are their main differences and which is better and which do you prefer for a 97A all around wheel?
There's a bit to say about that topic that would be too long in comment form, so I'll have to make a video on that. That being said, they serve two different purposes: Bones X 97a acts as a hybrid wheel of soft/hard properties but isn't the best at either end (just like the Dragons), while the Spitfire F4 97a is a dedicated hard wheel that's more forgiving on rougher surfaces but not a soft wheel by any means.
@@ThorneBenatar Yes Please make a in depth video on the differences and comparison of these 2 major brand and wheel types that's available in 97A since you have ridden both extensively, looking forward to seeing that video!
Love your reviews. I like how you use the product for a few months before talking about it. Makes it a lot more genuine than all of the 'first impression' reviews that are all over UA-cam.
Give this guy some more likes y'all! Great extended review not normally seen on a single component. Picked these up on sale $50CAD/$36USD for the 56mm. Haven't got a chance to try them yet but happy that they sound like exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for the video!
Also Bones X99 is out, if you get a set you should make a video on what is the best all around all in one wheel for both smooth and rough surfaces: SFF4 97A, X97 or X99.
Agreed, nobody is talking about the 99x wheels. Im curious as to what exactly they do different then a normal bones 99 wheel.
I have the 99a 59mm Kader Sylla wheels. Came with a rolling tray lol. My favorite wheels of all time. Great for ALL types of skating.
have you tried em with ventures/6.1s....youll love the powerslide control/initiate and how it blasts half cabs/bs 180s and big spins
Thanks for showing the specs on the wheel and how it effects the hanger space. I wish you dropped this video a week earlier because I just scooped the Kader radial full 99a and some 215's. The radials are wide enough that I can rock them with Indy 169's on a 10" deck.
i am a huge Thorne Benatar fan. great video as always
Your the man! In Europe these wheels are like 65-70€😮
Still worth it but still annoying. I remember a few years ago I only spent €56 now it about €70 😢
you should do a review on the new powell peralta nano cubics
Solid review , I just purchased these same wheels . Excited to try them out .
Hey Thorne I’d love to see a tutorial vid on your FS/BS grab airs! You got them real nice buddy
Great, detailed review. Thanks man!
Mother ocean - YEAH!
I think it's important to say that the 97s are slower on smooth ground than 99s or 101s. However, on rough ground or sidewalks it's easier to keep speed through crust or cracks due to the sofer urethane. I was considering switching from conical full 58 to radial full 56, but i think I'll stay on conical full. Mainly cause I don't wanna lose hangar space.
I rotate between two sets of 58mm conical fulls 97 and 99. My park is grippy so I prefer the 99 there. But in the street or in indoor parks 97 everytime. My knees also hurt less from the vibrations when skating the 97s. It's gotten to the point where my 99s got put in a shoe box. Sure I miss the slide but the second I'm on anything other than perfect ground i don't regret changing.
Looking forward to your review of radial 93s.
the powerslide fun/board control elements make these very enticing to ride with ventures which are very easy to initiate powerslides with on 6.1s and equally easy to control/setup speed overall. Those GX dudes are the living proof of the F4 97a's potential. Wouldnt hurt to have a similar setup as theirs in the quiver with some 97a conical fulls or radial fulls and 6.1 ventures.
I’m excited to try the new 60mm TFunk radial fulls in this 97d formula, I feel like it’ll be so fun on my wider boards & pushing through chewed up concrete
I have em, my go-to wheel now...super spoiled
@@jesseboyd8660 hell yes!! I’m stoked you like em, my local out here didn’t have the 60mm so I settled for the 54mm radial fulls, they’re not too much heftier than the 53mm conical I’m used to but they feel way better to get from A to B, so I’d say $ well spent!!!
for me the contact patch is what attracts me to the radial fulls for sure with the edge profile/pop response similar to a classic or normal radial wheel. IDK if these get slightly wider as they wear the same way the conical full shape does To me its what attracts me MOST to the conical fulls...getting 56's and riding them down to 54-52mm...for an even WIDER patch than if you bought the 54s or 52mm conical fulls outright. While being able to take off the risers with ventures which are pretty bitey at those wheel sizes or need risers depending on your shaped decks wheel clearance. IDK something about a shaped board with 57s or 56's and no risers and having that snappy/response but still having a shape to ride in transition is really fun.
I use the 57 Rowan Rawlings & they feel so rad for curbs / pools but I use 56 lock ins for streets/ obstacles / ledges
A+
Hi man, thank you for this super helpful review! I just got some of these wheels in the post today.. I ride a larger deck (9"+), ans these wheels still look huge (compared to the Bones 58s I had on there before). Like you said, I think that the reduced hanger length is going to help out with locking in on coping.. Did you find any trouble unlocking from grinds/stalls?? They wheels are way lighter than I anticipated which is a plus. Stoked to give them a try. Thanks again!!
I didn't have any problems unlocking from grinds and stalls
love the video
love the spit 97a f4. the bones x97 may almost be even better. seem faster and have a really nice slide
Thanks bro 🙏🏽
What's the differences between these SFF4 97A and Bones X97, I know you have ridden both types extensively, what are their main differences and which is better and which do you prefer for a 97A all around wheel?
Wondering the same thing, namely how they compare to the X Formula
There's a bit to say about that topic that would be too long in comment form, so I'll have to make a video on that. That being said, they serve two different purposes: Bones X 97a acts as a hybrid wheel of soft/hard properties but isn't the best at either end (just like the Dragons), while the Spitfire F4 97a is a dedicated hard wheel that's more forgiving on rougher surfaces but not a soft wheel by any means.
@@ThorneBenatar Looking forward to the vid!
@@ThorneBenatar Yes Please make a in depth video on the differences and comparison of these 2 major brand and wheel types that's available in 97A since you have ridden both extensively, looking forward to seeing that video!
Thanks 😊 !!
Lock in Fulls are probably the widest
I think the lock in full by spitfire might be a little wider than the radial full, I’m not sure tho
They are but the radial fulls have 3 more options for sizes
@@61936 good to know thanks
Nearly 80 dollars, equivalent, in UK!
how do you compare the performance of the Formula Four with the Dogtowns?
Do a different between Classics formula vs formula 4 wheel
Thorne best man
I have an idea. Just make wheels in every single durometer from 100 to 75. There. I just solved wheel madness.
Are you going to try the lock in fulls?
No plans for that, it's not a wheel I'm interested in
Os caras falam mal da esposa do ramon porque são eles que queriam ser a esposa dele!
🤗 'Promo sm'
If theyre not conicals im not riding them end of story.