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@@sqlb3rn there's a few who like to actually standout, like sexy anime protagonist, Tim. But 99.9% of dudes in bands all look like they just clocked out of a basic job and hit the stage lol
Sad people don't give Helmet & Faith No More credit as much as they used to. They're the reason why nu-metal & these nu-metal bands exist that all zoomers love.
I know you hate college rock but this also applies to R.E.M. They're so overlooked by newer generation & overshadowed by The Smiths, The Cure, Pixies, Sonic Youth, 95% of 90's alt rock band. They're the reason US alternative is born that zoomers love too lol
I wanted to cry when he brought Helmet down another tier. Seriously...Finn loves some hardcore, emo and pop punk bands with HORRID vocals and he can't get past Page Hamilton's singing voice?
They are awesome, Fear Factory is the band I have seen more live than any other. And by time this year end I would have seen them twice in a year after a long ass absence…sooo good.
i saw them in vegas w soilwork and it was a great show but the sound was terrible. i still have my ff terminator shirt that says "fuck you, asshole." they're actually hometown heroes, they grew up where i'm from.
Helmet was a HUGE influence on Dimebag after he heard them and a good bit of the reason why they switched to a more 'groove' style direction. But I do agree with Fin on this one (for once). I could never get over dude's singing. I wouldn't label it as 'bad' like Fin does, but it's kind tough for me to swallow.
@@stagecoachrobbery Finn roasting on the vocals... I don't get it. A little rough, maybe, but slayer is loved by most, and they have some of the worst vocals in metal history.
For the record, the Carnivore track "Race War" is an anti conflict song. The lyrics reflect that if you listen to the whole song, its a great song honestly. Peter Steele was a fan of classic Black American musicians and frequented the House of Blues. And not putting Fear Factory on S or A tier is just ignorant, they literally laid the blueprint that every modern band uses today from the riffing to the clean vs harsh vocals. Big L dude.
I can definitely see that Race War could have been anti racist. It does make it look futile as the song progresses. However, early on is the opposite and it's easy to see how Nazi skinheads would see it as a battle cry.
Type O Negative also had a song, don't remember if it's called "Kill All the White People" but that's the gist of the song. They're definitely not racists.
Peter Steele understood how to get people exposed to Type-O or Carnivore. Just look up the lyrics of "We hate everyone": Peter was a personified marketing masterclass and already understood during Carnivore, that dark humor would generate exposure.
That Body Hammer riff has been giving me chills since its release. I had no idea how influential Demanufacture was when it was released and I was 12. But damn does that album slap something fierce. Soul of a New Machine had some very serious jams on it, too.
Pantera & FNM are still on my playlist. That stuff will always sound fresh to me. Maybe 'cause Phil and Mike are both exceptional singers, can't stand subpar vocals.
@@YoungDeathWish I'm pretty sure most fans of metal or music in general, including experts like legitimate voice coaches, know how good Phil Anselmo and Mike Patton are. Range, technique - all of it. Now, one's TASTE is definitely subjective, if we're talking about that in particular. Someone f.e. may love Axl Rose's voice, but I personally think it's grating.
@@YoungDeathWishyes it is subjective, but people have been studying singing for hundreds of years if not more. The technique and range that they have is just better, maybe subjectively, but technique wise objectively. If it’s not in someones taste, I understand, but the talent and skill is undeniable.
Crowbar and Acid Bath. Never achieved any type of commercial success but both heavily influential. Crowbar wrote two of their best albums in the height of nu-metal. Odd Fellows and Sonic Excess. They're still kicking ass today.
Tell me you've only listened to one Helmet record without telling me you've only listened to one Helmet record....Dude has a killer voice, especially when he gets into the more drunkard style like the Size Matters album.
I have heard everything they’ve ever done. Bought the “meantime” 7” before the album came out and was a huge fan for many years. John stanier is one of my favorite drummers of all time.
I'd agree that the singers voice isnt Rob Zombie terrible, but its just not a good metal voice. Put that voice in a terrible late 90's post-grunge band, and it works pretty much better.
I saw Fear Factory at the Whiskey A Go Go before Demanufacture came out. They played all but one song off Soul of a New Machine. Machine Head opened for them (as well as Clutch). Brujeria made an appearance. It was a great concert. Burton pulled me on stage to yell "Suffer Bastard" during Martyr. Then about 8 months later, I saw them again and they played three songs off the yet-unreleased Demanufacture. Usually I don't like when a band plays unreleased stuff live because it's unfamiliar. But I remember how hard Self Biased Resistor hit live having never even heard the song. I recognized it instantly when the album came out 5 months later. A couple months before Demanufacture came out, I met Dino at Bionic Records in Fullterton, CA and he gave me a promo copy of the album and signed it. They're a huge part of my youth and early adulthood.
@@AgentBeans I'd forgotten Cynic was on there. I drove all over LA trying to find their album. Finally, afer 100+ miles of driving, I found it at Tower Records on audio cassette. I listened to the shit out of that tape. Focus was way ahead of its time.
It’s insane how good all the 90s metal bands were and how the music still holds up. The majority of either my favorite bands and/or favorite albums are from 90s metal powerhouses. Looking forward to part two.
*_Shock, in my humble opinion, is the heaviest song ever written. Any new speaker system I get, it’s tradition that Shock is the first song played through it._*
The problem with Fear Factory is that Demanufacture, Obsolete, and Archetype are fucking S-tier gold. The rest of their albums are pretty much dog shit. I bought every album from Soul of a New Machine through Mechanize. They are very hit or miss.
Those two Carnivore albums are the absolute top tier metal in my VERY small list of that stuff I come back to. Masterpieces, even if a bit cheesy on the first one. Always was a huge Type O fan, basically all of Pete's projects are top tier to me.
Early 90s Alt Metal and Groove Metal are easily some my favorite sub genres in metal, just so damn good! Machine Head has to be at least B tier, sure they have some misses that are bad but Burn My Eyes and The Blackening are S tier metal albums.
Fear Factory song Edgecrusher was catchy as hell , love it . Plus I bought a compilation disc in the early 90s with them on it with a song maybe titled Got to Get Away ? He said it all through the chorus anyways . But that was my introduction to them , but it sounded WAY more raw then later stuff . I wish I could remember the comps name now . But Included Brujeria and other upcoming bands at the time .
I like how all the comments are about Fear Factory lol. I feel like it’s all starting to bubble over and they’re finally getting their flowers as a Meshuggah level of influence on modern metal band
Self Bias resistor from FF is still one of my all time fave metal songs next to Walk from Pantera. People don't realize that is there was no FF there would be no Slipknot. The heavy growl to melodic choruses and the mechine gun drumming. To rate them lower than FNM ot Type-O is blasphemy for sure.
Fear Factory revolutionized metal as much (if not more) as Pantera. Especially if we're talking about modern jenty style metal. They will always be S tier.
STRICKLY6 saying Fear Factory didn't really have a mainstream hit WRONG Linchpin was 31 on the Billboard Mainstream Rock chart in 2001 and Cars (Gary Numan cover that had him featured in the song and in the music video) was No. 16 on the Billboard Mainstream Rock chart in 1999
I think it's worth mentioning, and Finn missed the opportunity, to point out that out of all those racist Brooklyn bands, Biohazard was openly ANTI-racist. They deserve a lot of credit for that, especially back in a time where you could be racist (at least subtly) and get away with it. They drew the opposite line in the sand and made it loud and proudly clear. Solid list, great bands, good justifications. Fear Factory has had an incredible run, but they've fallen on hard times lately; they probably deserve A tier though, especially with their influence on industrial metal. They were doing things that quite simply no one else in heavy metal was doing at the time, especially death metal (where they started). Bringing on one half of the masterminds behind Delerium to remix their metal albums into something more electronic? Absolutely crazy. I'd bump them up. I think Machine Head's peak (including Through the Ashes, the Blackening, and Locust with their first album) is A tier worthy, but man, their bad albums are BAD, and that has to be taken into account. UKJ is A tier in my heart as well, and I think they're better song writers than they were given credit for because of their humor and shtick, but they lacked staying power and impact (maybe this is where you needed a D tier lol). Helmet and Prong are legit C tier, and well justified. White Zombie didn't have the lengthy career necessary to justify a higher ranking (unless you include Rob's solo work), and honestly, they had some duds early on. Any critique of RATM ranking S tier would have to be their relatively limited run and discography. Their debut is absolute fire and hugely influential. But more longevity would have been nice. Pantera had some absolute duds to bookend their run, but their core three albums warrant S tier - as well as their influence. Super appreciate the love given Type O. Easily the best song writers on the entire list, up there with the best metal song writers of all time. Unlike most of these bands, they also had a long and hugely productive run, and with a much higher average bar for quality songs across their discography (way better, on average, than Pantera or Machine Head). A tier only because their moody goth metal / Drab Four vibe isn't going to appeal to all metal heads, but in terms of quality alone, I think they're absolutely S tier. They do have some problematic early songs, as Finn mentioned, and it's very convenient to try to excuse it all as a joke - but with Type O (like Rammstein), it's very difficult to tell when they were being serious. I suspect there's a bit of truth to those lyrics, and if they're even a little bit true, then it's too much.
Pantera was openly antiracist too. If people would actually listen to any of the lyrics on the Vulgar album rather than focusing on out-of-context-clips like this one, they would know that.
I'm just going to say, been a fan of Type O since '96. Was never a goth person, was first exposed to them by a sampler cd that had 'My Girlfriend's Girlfriend' that was packaged with some magazine in late '96. Became a huge fan and researched them a lot, mainly because i find Pete to be an interesting person, and it's one of those deals where I was curious who the people behind the writing were. Anyways what took so long getting to is that with all the things I've seen, read, heard, basically if it's not clearly about something obvious, mostly themes of love, family, some of the demons they dealt with, don't take it seriously at all. Pete by all accounts was kind, personable and a stand up guy, with a wickedly sharp and dark sense of humor and a serious love of stirring the pot. I don't think there was any real racism there. Just some trolling lyrics for shock value...
Finally the tier list I can 100% get behind. All of these bands were on constant rotation for me growing up. Fear Factory stans unite! Also its wild that Epic still gets constant rotation on the local FM rock stations. I wore that tape out in grade school...but man, nothing in their discography tops Angel Dust.
I have two arguments with this list: 1. Fear Factory deserves to be at least one tier higher, maybe two. 2. I would argue that Faith No More is rock, not metal, and therefore doesn't need to be on this list at all. In terms of overall quality I wouldn't argue with the tier you put them on, but I don't think they need to be on the list any more than, say, Soundgarden does.
I wish Finn was my dad dude. He would wake me up for school and tell me to have a great day. I'd get home and he'd give me advice on how to deal with my bully Shaneedra, the big black girl from my homeroom that calls me names but if I say anything back she just says im racist and the teachers agree even though I just called her fat. Then we would go get slushies from the Circle K and talk about music while we drive. I wish I had this dude. I'd take it now at 33 years of age. I love you dad.
Man Ugly Kid Joe takes me back to riding my bike to school listening to UKJ on my CD player on my way to school in 5th grade. Found this gem in my dad's CD collection as a kid
Man, what a superb selection of bands. Born in 1969, I had the honor to grow up with all these great bands. Pantera, Type O Negative , Fear Factory, Prong, Biohazard, Machine Head, White Zombie ... saw all of them live, and all of them are still on my rotation. Huge huge influence on everything that followed. I am mostly into Extreme Metal these days, but also RATM (the Renegades album!) and Faith No More kick serious ass.
I absolutely love these videos. I'm 42, and these videos bring g back some really great memories. I've been saying for years. But since 9/11 the country just feels different. Different in a very bad way! Ty for the content brother. Keep it coming!
I like all these bands, I can care less about their politics and opinions. People now say way worse but only some are criticized. That being said, Faith No More deserves to be in the S tier! Hands down ;)
I found the Dimebag @NAMM unedited video for context. Yup, definitely said the “N” word to a white guy who wanted his old Washburn guitar signed. Dime wanted him to play it for him and he would decide to sign it or not. The white guy played the guitar in question while Dime threw the horns and bobbed his head with encouragement even though the guy was super nervous and wasn’t playing his best I’m sure. when he finished Dime gave the guy a huge hug and signed his guitar Yeah, he said the “N” word to a white guy which of course 20 years later is not cool. If Dime were alive today I have to imagine his choice of words would be significantly different as most of us have changed in the last 20 years. We all used to drop the “F” word like it was going out of style in 2007 because, it was going out of style.
Time period contex is not taken into account by this UA-camr. But honestly it’s just words at the end of the day and with context it’s literally someone just being offensive for shock and comedic purposes. I laughed when Dime said that and I’m African sooo.
Fear Factory have been one of , if not my favourite band since I first heard them in '96. They will always be on my A or S tier. But I can understand that those albums without Dino will always be a spot for some folks. I had most of these bands and songs on crappy n-th gen compilation dubs. I'm now gonna go and re listen to all again now.
This was a fun video, 90's metal always hits me right in the nostalgia bone. I completely agree with your take on Ugly Kid Joe, they're probably not an objectively great band but I've always had a soft spot for them. Thanks for another great video, I'm going back to community college and your videos are always a welcome break in between my school work. Can't wait for the tier list tier list video.
I remember praying and apologizing to Jesus when I was 11 because I repeatedly listened to "Pisschrist" by Fear Factory and just hoped that He would forgive me and understand that riff fucking RIPS.
@@ghost_mall The Battle of Los Angeles just sounded so generic by the time it came out. Morello really is a one trick pony, and this album sounds like they are ripping off themselves. There's only so much you can do with the minor pentatonic scale, but Morello beat that horse all the way into Audioslave. Perhaps if it had come out first, it would have been better, but it really was a let down because it was just the same old sound just no where near as good. Here's my ranking: RATM: 10/10 Evil Empire: 8.5/10 Battle of LA: 6/10 Renegades: 7/10 (purely because it was different)
None of their albums hold up. RATM is awesome when you're an angry teenager. Then you grow up, realize they are a bunch of Commies and it doesn't land the same. Factor in they are/were successful, they are also major hypocrites ( champagne socialists )
I would've thrown Melvins up there for their work on Houdini. Phenomenal album, as nasty as riffs really get for the early 90s for a band not named Pantera or TOOL.
It’s wild to me that most of these bands ran parallel to grunge but my memory separated into to different eras. Like my mind didn’t absorb them as the same time frame.
My first metal concert ever was Rob Zombie, Monster Magnet and Fear Factory in 98.. ON HALLOWEEN! Didn't realize how epic that was at the time, but wow. In retrospect that's how you kick off a lifelong love of 90s metal.
3:32 - Sorry, can't hear your criticism over all of the hip hop culture where that very word is said AT LEAST 100 per second for the last 30 years. But thanks for the useless opinion.
Thank you Finn, 90s metal was a great time to be alive ❤❤❤ Faith No More A tier at The Real Thing, S tier at Angel Dust. Fear Factory SSS+ for me! Edit: Holy shit Prong!!! Still love them!
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You forgot Kyuss 🥊🧢
Dime did say it jokingly to a white guy. Weird you brought it up. I mean he's dead as shit. But I get what you're saying. And why.
❤❤ handicap emoji dude. Thanks for what u do 😮
It's supposed to say hand clap. But u can keep that😂😂😂
Did he say something about white zombie? ⛳ or black pixies?...
90s rockers be dressing like real life anime characters and modern rockers be dressing like generic warehouse NPCs 😂
S-tier comment!
When are u gonna do a rap tier list? Lots of naughty words in that music as well am I riiiiiiiiiiight?
Lmao
Idk what you mean, Tim Henson looks like a Final Fantasy NPC with his anime hair and elf ears
@@sqlb3rn there's a few who like to actually standout, like sexy anime protagonist, Tim. But 99.9% of dudes in bands all look like they just clocked out of a basic job and hit the stage lol
Pete Steel is too big to be a Troll. He’s more of an Ogre. Ogres have layers, like onions.
I don’t know why, but I love this comment.
@@crescendo5594 Shrek callback
The Legend Of Finn : Tiers Of The Kingdom
Edit: i am also a Fear Factory stan and i think they are definitely A tier.
He rules every kingdom
Finn please ❤ this!! 🥺
S tier comment
S tier all the way!! Most dynamic under ratted band ever
Dino in general and Fear Factory - incredible.
Sad people don't give Helmet & Faith No More credit as much as they used to. They're the reason why nu-metal & these nu-metal bands exist that all zoomers love.
I know you hate college rock but this also applies to R.E.M. They're so overlooked by newer generation & overshadowed by The Smiths, The Cure, Pixies, Sonic Youth, 95% of 90's alt rock band. They're the reason US alternative is born that zoomers love too lol
@@gx1tar1er it’s how it goes - platforms like TikTok have recontextualized history for better or for worse. But real ones know (:
Faith No More was outshining Guns N' Roses on their own tour at the height of their popularity, that should make them S-tier.
I don't think that ever happened
Nah I don't think that ever happened
Finn is back with his godawful yet enjoyable to watch hot takes.
So accurate!
you just summed up the Finn modus operandi perfectly, respect!!
Yep, he literally put Dr Pepper in F tier
@@Ffmt-ri3ti Yeah I watched that video, L. Calling Prong and Pantera racist, Double L.
I wanted to cry when he brought Helmet down another tier.
Seriously...Finn loves some hardcore, emo and pop punk bands with HORRID vocals and he can't get past Page Hamilton's singing voice?
Fear factory is one of my favorite bands of all time. I saw them live play the demanufafcture album live in a small club, it was so badass.
They are awesome, Fear Factory is the band I have seen more live than any other. And by time this year end I would have seen them twice in a year after a long ass absence…sooo good.
seen them a few times as a teen, ozzfest 98 and 99 and also in 99 with system of a down! so good live
i saw them in vegas w soilwork and it was a great show but the sound was terrible. i still have my ff terminator shirt that says "fuck you, asshole."
they're actually hometown heroes, they grew up where i'm from.
Same. Just saw them with Milo singing at The Whisky. They sound great!!!
Fear Factory is for sure solid. Still listen to them often so they aged well.
Helmet is one the most underrated bands of all time along with handsome
Helmet was a HUGE influence on Dimebag after he heard them and a good bit of the reason why they switched to a more 'groove' style direction. But I do agree with Fin on this one (for once). I could never get over dude's singing. I wouldn't label it as 'bad' like Fin does, but it's kind tough for me to swallow.
For sure
Helmet is S tier for sure.
Finn loves hardcore yet forgets when just about every hardcore band and their grandmother were adopting Helmet riffs.
@@stagecoachrobbery Finn roasting on the vocals... I don't get it. A little rough, maybe, but slayer is loved by most, and they have some of the worst vocals in metal history.
For the record, the Carnivore track "Race War" is an anti conflict song. The lyrics reflect that if you listen to the whole song, its a great song honestly. Peter Steele was a fan of classic Black American musicians and frequented the House of Blues. And not putting Fear Factory on S or A tier is just ignorant, they literally laid the blueprint that every modern band uses today from the riffing to the clean vs harsh vocals. Big L dude.
I can definitely see that Race War could have been anti racist. It does make it look futile as the song progresses. However, early on is the opposite and it's easy to see how Nazi skinheads would see it as a battle cry.
Type O Negative also had a song, don't remember if it's called "Kill All the White People" but that's the gist of the song. They're definitely not racists.
Not to mention guitar tone in general. Mesa cab with an SM-57.
Peter Steele understood how to get people exposed to Type-O or Carnivore. Just look up the lyrics of "We hate everyone": Peter was a personified marketing masterclass and already understood during Carnivore, that dark humor would generate exposure.
Fear factory not A or S tier? Thanks for saving me from wasting time watching this video 😂
Listening to Pantera is like getting puched in the face. Listening to Fear Factory is like getting sliced to pieces by lasers.
Messhugah ?
Fear factory so understated doe
Prong is goddamn awesome. Deserve way more recognition
That Body Hammer riff has been giving me chills since its release. I had no idea how influential Demanufacture was when it was released and I was 12. But damn does that album slap something fierce. Soul of a New Machine had some very serious jams on it, too.
Fear Factory will always hold a special place in my heart. Found them through the Test Drive video games as a kid and fell in love with them.
Pantera & FNM are still on my playlist. That stuff will always sound fresh to me. Maybe 'cause Phil and Mike are both exceptional singers, can't stand subpar vocals.
I wasn't ever a metal head but the metal part of me still listens to both Pantera and FNM.
It’s kind of subjective though. What one person might consider exceptional another might not.
@@YoungDeathWish I'm pretty sure most fans of metal or music in general, including experts like legitimate voice coaches, know how good Phil Anselmo and Mike Patton are. Range, technique - all of it. Now, one's TASTE is definitely subjective, if we're talking about that in particular. Someone f.e. may love Axl Rose's voice, but I personally think it's grating.
@@YoungDeathWishyes it is subjective, but people have been studying singing for hundreds of years if not more. The technique and range that they have is just better, maybe subjectively, but technique wise objectively. If it’s not in someones taste, I understand, but the talent and skill is undeniable.
Phil and Mike are goated. easily two of the best vocalists of all time
Crowbar and Acid Bath. Never achieved any type of commercial success but both heavily influential. Crowbar wrote two of their best albums in the height of nu-metal. Odd Fellows and Sonic Excess. They're still kicking ass today.
Tell me you've only listened to one Helmet record without telling me you've only listened to one Helmet record....Dude has a killer voice, especially when he gets into the more drunkard style like the Size Matters album.
I have heard everything they’ve ever done. Bought the “meantime” 7” before the album came out and was a huge fan for many years. John stanier is one of my favorite drummers of all time.
I'd agree that the singers voice isnt Rob Zombie terrible, but its just not a good metal voice. Put that voice in a terrible late 90's post-grunge band, and it works pretty much better.
@@bushleague3472 cause theyre not a metal band theyre post hardcore
I saw Fear Factory at the Whiskey A Go Go before Demanufacture came out. They played all but one song off Soul of a New Machine. Machine Head opened for them (as well as Clutch). Brujeria made an appearance. It was a great concert. Burton pulled me on stage to yell "Suffer Bastard" during Martyr.
Then about 8 months later, I saw them again and they played three songs off the yet-unreleased Demanufacture. Usually I don't like when a band plays unreleased stuff live because it's unfamiliar. But I remember how hard Self Biased Resistor hit live having never even heard the song. I recognized it instantly when the album came out 5 months later.
A couple months before Demanufacture came out, I met Dino at Bionic Records in Fullterton, CA and he gave me a promo copy of the album and signed it. They're a huge part of my youth and early adulthood.
@@AgentBeans That's exactly the same compilation I first heard them on. That and Death's cover of God of Thunder were great!
@@AgentBeans I'd forgotten Cynic was on there. I drove all over LA trying to find their album. Finally, afer 100+ miles of driving, I found it at Tower Records on audio cassette. I listened to the shit out of that tape. Focus was way ahead of its time.
Strapping Young Lad’s 90s albums were also great. Recommend to fans of Fear Factory
Basically any Devin Townsend
@@WilliamSussman Ocean Machine GOATed
SYL did Fear Factory better than Fear Factory. Both great bands, but SYL were the absolute shit
Also Mnemic
Gene fucking Hoglan, The Atomic Clock!
Finn is like the uncle at the barbecue that bring his own meat to make his "special".
And a pocket full of firecrackers
Helmet was a game changer for heavy music when they came out. 'A Tier' at least.
It’s insane how good all the 90s metal bands were and how the music still holds up. The majority of either my favorite bands and/or favorite albums are from 90s metal powerhouses. Looking forward to part two.
Fellow Fear Factory stan here.
25 years of Obsolete as of today, good sir. Helluva live show, and God damn. One of my all time faves.
*_Shock, in my humble opinion, is the heaviest song ever written. Any new speaker system I get, it’s tradition that Shock is the first song played through it._*
The problem with Fear Factory is that Demanufacture, Obsolete, and Archetype are fucking S-tier gold. The rest of their albums are pretty much dog shit. I bought every album from Soul of a New Machine through Mechanize. They are very hit or miss.
Those two Carnivore albums are the absolute top tier metal in my VERY small list of that stuff I come back to. Masterpieces, even if a bit cheesy on the first one. Always was a huge Type O fan, basically all of Pete's projects are top tier to me.
Carnivore fucking rips!
Problem is, in context of this tier list is Carnivore are an 80's band. Type O are 90's.
Helmet holds up just fine. You are crazy.
Early 90s Alt Metal and Groove Metal are easily some my favorite sub genres in metal, just so damn good!
Machine Head has to be at least B tier, sure they have some misses that are bad but Burn My Eyes and The Blackening are S tier metal albums.
Blackening came out in the 90s?
Fear Factory song Edgecrusher was catchy as hell , love it . Plus I bought a compilation disc in the early 90s with them on it with a song maybe titled Got to Get Away ? He said it all through the chorus anyways . But that was my introduction to them , but it sounded WAY more raw then later stuff . I wish I could remember the comps name now . But Included Brujeria and other upcoming bands at the time .
Fear Factory is a truely underrated and is a true A tier band with all their newest material is amazing.
Self Bias Resistor still makes me want to tear apart stuff
I was hoping you’d mention Life of Agony. River Runs Red and Ugly pretty much got me through high school
Yes great album
I like how all the comments are about Fear Factory lol. I feel like it’s all starting to bubble over and they’re finally getting their flowers as a Meshuggah level of influence on modern metal band
As they should!
Prong was KILLER. Saw them on Prove You Wrong tour. Killer show.
Just recently got into them even though I knew about them in the 90s. They’re now one of my favorite bands.
Prong is awesome
We need a longer version of this. There are a lot of bands and genres who should have been mentioned.
I first discovered Machine Head as a nu metal band, so that era has never bothered me. 😂
Fun fact: Terry Date produced albums for about half of the bands on this list, most of which are considered their best albums.
And Andy Wallace mixed most of them
Thanks!
Seeing Type O Negative and Biohazard back in the days at L'amour ( a club in Brooklyn) and those bands were from Brooklyn, was pretty damned awesome
Best times,first time I seen Slayer live.
Faith No More is whatever tier is above S. And it isn't even close.
"hehe is this that band Schlong?"
" Snap your fingers, snap your neck? I can do that .... Oh God, I did it wrong. Butthead help me "
This Tier list video is on the C tier of Finn tier list videos.
I was kinda upset that you didn't mention death metal but then I realized you can do a whole tier list for 90s death metal alone
Truth
"death metal" get out of here.
@fernandosepulveda7297 no I think I'll stay
Self Bias resistor from FF is still one of my all time fave metal songs next to Walk from Pantera. People don't realize that is there was no FF there would be no Slipknot. The heavy growl to melodic choruses and the mechine gun drumming. To rate them lower than FNM ot Type-O is blasphemy for sure.
Fear Factory revolutionized metal as much (if not more) as Pantera. Especially if we're talking about modern jenty style metal. They will always be S tier.
STRICKLY6 saying Fear Factory didn't really have a mainstream hit WRONG Linchpin was 31 on the Billboard Mainstream Rock chart in 2001 and Cars (Gary Numan cover that had him featured in the song and in the music video) was No. 16 on the Billboard Mainstream Rock chart in 1999
Demanufacture was my first metal CD I got. I was in 6th grade. Thank God for the Mortal Kombat soundtrack
I think it's worth mentioning, and Finn missed the opportunity, to point out that out of all those racist Brooklyn bands, Biohazard was openly ANTI-racist. They deserve a lot of credit for that, especially back in a time where you could be racist (at least subtly) and get away with it. They drew the opposite line in the sand and made it loud and proudly clear.
Solid list, great bands, good justifications.
Fear Factory has had an incredible run, but they've fallen on hard times lately; they probably deserve A tier though, especially with their influence on industrial metal. They were doing things that quite simply no one else in heavy metal was doing at the time, especially death metal (where they started). Bringing on one half of the masterminds behind Delerium to remix their metal albums into something more electronic? Absolutely crazy. I'd bump them up.
I think Machine Head's peak (including Through the Ashes, the Blackening, and Locust with their first album) is A tier worthy, but man, their bad albums are BAD, and that has to be taken into account. UKJ is A tier in my heart as well, and I think they're better song writers than they were given credit for because of their humor and shtick, but they lacked staying power and impact (maybe this is where you needed a D tier lol). Helmet and Prong are legit C tier, and well justified. White Zombie didn't have the lengthy career necessary to justify a higher ranking (unless you include Rob's solo work), and honestly, they had some duds early on.
Any critique of RATM ranking S tier would have to be their relatively limited run and discography. Their debut is absolute fire and hugely influential. But more longevity would have been nice. Pantera had some absolute duds to bookend their run, but their core three albums warrant S tier - as well as their influence.
Super appreciate the love given Type O. Easily the best song writers on the entire list, up there with the best metal song writers of all time. Unlike most of these bands, they also had a long and hugely productive run, and with a much higher average bar for quality songs across their discography (way better, on average, than Pantera or Machine Head). A tier only because their moody goth metal / Drab Four vibe isn't going to appeal to all metal heads, but in terms of quality alone, I think they're absolutely S tier. They do have some problematic early songs, as Finn mentioned, and it's very convenient to try to excuse it all as a joke - but with Type O (like Rammstein), it's very difficult to tell when they were being serious. I suspect there's a bit of truth to those lyrics, and if they're even a little bit true, then it's too much.
Pantera was openly antiracist too. If people would actually listen to any of the lyrics on the Vulgar album rather than focusing on out-of-context-clips like this one, they would know that.
I'm just going to say, been a fan of Type O since '96. Was never a goth person, was first exposed to them by a sampler cd that had 'My Girlfriend's Girlfriend' that was packaged with some magazine in late '96. Became a huge fan and researched them a lot, mainly because i find Pete to be an interesting person, and it's one of those deals where I was curious who the people behind the writing were. Anyways what took so long getting to is that with all the things I've seen, read, heard, basically if it's not clearly about something obvious, mostly themes of love, family, some of the demons they dealt with, don't take it seriously at all. Pete by all accounts was kind, personable and a stand up guy, with a wickedly sharp and dark sense of humor and a serious love of stirring the pot. I don't think there was any real racism there. Just some trolling lyrics for shock value...
Finally the tier list I can 100% get behind. All of these bands were on constant rotation for me growing up. Fear Factory stans unite!
Also its wild that Epic still gets constant rotation on the local FM rock stations. I wore that tape out in grade school...but man, nothing in their discography tops Angel Dust.
3:18 I don’t care and frankly this pocketing of events that happened decades ago is beyond stupid
Sweet tier list. Love your appreciation of Fear Factory and Type O.
Hell yeah, Fear Factory. I got to try out for vocals for that band once.
Yeah I don’t think we need to rehash up old Pantera videos from a million years ago. Give me a break.
I have two arguments with this list:
1. Fear Factory deserves to be at least one tier higher, maybe two.
2. I would argue that Faith No More is rock, not metal, and therefore doesn't need to be on this list at all. In terms of overall quality I wouldn't argue with the tier you put them on, but I don't think they need to be on the list any more than, say, Soundgarden does.
I'm from '98 and I have vivid memories of playing Demolition Racer with its Fear Factory soundtrack. Really takes me to happier times.
I wish Finn was my dad dude. He would wake me up for school and tell me to have a great day. I'd get home and he'd give me advice on how to deal with my bully Shaneedra, the big black girl from my homeroom that calls me names but if I say anything back she just says im racist and the teachers agree even though I just called her fat. Then we would go get slushies from the Circle K and talk about music while we drive. I wish I had this dude. I'd take it now at 33 years of age. I love you dad.
Your tier lists are always s tier content on the tier list of tier listing
2:11 The longest disclaimer ever. Respect Finn, your reaching out to new sponsors 🤛🤛
Man Ugly Kid Joe takes me back to riding my bike to school listening to UKJ on my CD player on my way to school in 5th grade. Found this gem in my dad's CD collection as a kid
I don’t care about politics, talk about music
Man, what a superb selection of bands. Born in 1969, I had the honor to grow up with all these great bands. Pantera, Type O Negative , Fear Factory, Prong, Biohazard, Machine Head, White Zombie ... saw all of them live, and all of them are still on my rotation. Huge huge influence on everything that followed. I am mostly into Extreme Metal these days, but also RATM (the Renegades album!) and Faith No More kick serious ass.
I absolutely love these videos. I'm 42, and these videos bring g back some really great memories. I've been saying for years. But since 9/11 the country just feels different. Different in a very bad way! Ty for the content brother. Keep it coming!
9:47 that could be used as a PanterA pun because Pantera had a song called "Heresy" of they're 1990 album *Cowboys From Hell*
Fear Factory sounds like a AA battery given musical sentience
Soul-Crusher by White Zombie is my current 90’s metal song of choice.
Mf'n White Zombie🤘🏿
I like all these bands, I can care less about their politics and opinions. People now say way worse but only some are criticized. That being said, Faith No More deserves to be in the S tier! Hands down ;)
Couldn't agree more.
Political correctness is fascism disguised as manners- george Carlin
FNM & FF are both clearly S Tier for mine!
I found the Dimebag @NAMM unedited video for context. Yup, definitely said the “N” word to a white guy who wanted his old Washburn guitar signed. Dime wanted him to play it for him and he would decide to sign it or not. The white guy played the guitar in question while Dime threw the horns and bobbed his head with encouragement even though the guy was super nervous and wasn’t playing his best I’m sure. when he finished Dime gave the guy a huge hug and signed his guitar
Yeah, he said the “N” word to a white guy which of course 20 years later is not cool. If Dime were alive today I have to imagine his choice of words would be significantly different as most of us have changed in the last 20 years. We all used to drop the “F” word like it was going out of style in 2007 because, it was going out of style.
Time period contex is not taken into account by this UA-camr. But honestly it’s just words at the end of the day and with context it’s literally someone just being offensive for shock and comedic purposes. I laughed when Dime said that and I’m African sooo.
The irony of "Sargent D" giving old bands shit for being politically incorrect.
Fear Factory have been one of , if not my favourite band since I first heard them in '96. They will always be on my A or S tier. But I can understand that those albums without Dino will always be a spot for some folks.
I had most of these bands and songs on crappy n-th gen compilation dubs. I'm now gonna go and re listen to all again now.
People say Car Bomb is ripping off Meshuggah, but I think they're biting at Fear Factory
Type O and Fear Factory need to go up there with Pantera. Type O and FF are the only other platinum artists besides Pantera on your list.
Raymond Herrera is such an underrated drummer. One of the best in metal
Yeah, gets hardly any credit or respect at all.
Was sad not to see Corrosion of Conformity, awesome riffs.
What they do off stage doesn't change the bands catalogue
Alright, let’s be real. We need a tier list of your tier lists.
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@@atvena Haha, thanks. Thought it would make for a funny video. Lol.
Maybe my favorite Finn take is the love for Fear Factory. Such an unbelievable and underrated band.
To be fair now, Type-O-Negative also has a song called "Kill All The White People".
We all wore goggles because of Linda Perry. I blame Nine Inch Nails for that "Mad Max beyond Thunderdome" fashion.
Finally some Fear Factory and Prong love. Lol. Both are underrated. Both should be raised up one tier though.
This was a fun video, 90's metal always hits me right in the nostalgia bone. I completely agree with your take on Ugly Kid Joe, they're probably not an objectively great band but I've always had a soft spot for them. Thanks for another great video, I'm going back to community college and your videos are always a welcome break in between my school work. Can't wait for the tier list tier list video.
I remember praying and apologizing to Jesus when I was 11 because I repeatedly listened to "Pisschrist" by Fear Factory and just hoped that He would forgive me and understand that riff fucking RIPS.
Listening too Demanufacture for the first time in 94 was definitely mindblowing to be quite honest and Davidian was just the same.
Fear Factory under Type O Negative is a crime.
Faith No More is the best band you talked about! Angel Dust is a classic!
The first RATM album was their best. Definitely holds up.
@@ghost_mall The Battle of Los Angeles just sounded so generic by the time it came out. Morello really is a one trick pony, and this album sounds like they are ripping off themselves. There's only so much you can do with the minor pentatonic scale, but Morello beat that horse all the way into Audioslave. Perhaps if it had come out first, it would have been better, but it really was a let down because it was just the same old sound just no where near as good. Here's my ranking:
RATM: 10/10
Evil Empire: 8.5/10
Battle of LA: 6/10
Renegades: 7/10 (purely because it was different)
None of their albums hold up. RATM is awesome when you're an angry teenager. Then you grow up, realize they are a bunch of Commies and it doesn't land the same. Factor in they are/were successful, they are also major hypocrites ( champagne socialists )
First 3 albums are great
I would've thrown Melvins up there for their work on Houdini. Phenomenal album, as nasty as riffs really get for the early 90s for a band not named Pantera or TOOL.
How can you put fear factory under type o negative
It’s wild to me that most of these bands ran parallel to grunge but my memory separated into to different eras. Like my mind didn’t absorb them as the same time frame.
I met Peter Steel in 96. Nicest rock star I ever met yet a huge intimidating guy.
I was able to see Type O open for Pantera
These bands went PERFECT with Paul Heyman’s Extreme Championship Wrestling. Brutal riffs and extreme wrestling matches. 🔥
i legit knew that prong song from justin credibles walk out
@@John_Souls yea Paul Heyman had to or get covers but it definitely added to the grunge and violence to the ECW product. It was amazing for its time.
@@John_Souls one of them came out to rage against the machine i forget mikey whipwreck or one of the dudleys
Bring this one back, Finn! Ton of bands left to do!
The dimebag clip was funny as hell
We need a part 2!
Pete steel said some hilarious shit that would peel the paint off the walls today.
Not to mention the album cover of OOTF
@@WilliamSussman that whole album is a concept troll album and it’s brilliant
I've said this a couple months ago, i think we deserve a year end tier list tier list
My first metal concert ever was Rob Zombie, Monster Magnet and Fear Factory in 98.. ON HALLOWEEN! Didn't realize how epic that was at the time, but wow. In retrospect that's how you kick off a lifelong love of 90s metal.
How old were you then?
@@yungtrunks1194 sixteen
you did fear factory dirty and you know it. I am DISGUSTED and taking my ball and going home.
Prong and Machine Head lower than White Zombie? That just feels dirty.
Dude exactly. Abd honestly helmet is better than both of them
I take a bullet for Machine Head and Fear Factory! :D
3:32 - Sorry, can't hear your criticism over all of the hip hop culture where that very word is said AT LEAST 100 per second for the last 30 years. But thanks for the useless opinion.
Thank you Finn, 90s metal was a great time to be alive ❤❤❤ Faith No More A tier at The Real Thing, S tier at Angel Dust. Fear Factory SSS+ for me! Edit: Holy shit Prong!!! Still love them!
Type O Negative sounds like the villain intro in a 90's animated Disney movie