The ULTIMATE 90s metal tier list (vol 2)
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2023
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The ULTIMATE 90s metal tier list (vol 2) is here! Where do 90s metal bands like Meshuggah, Tool, Korn, Danzig, Clutch and more belong?
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FInn! Do us all a favour and make a video about Scott Burns or Ross Robinson. I feel like a lot of times great albums come from a great mentorship and ear of great producer to make a band feel comfortable and free top express their art, and even see their potential to sound even greater on record. Many of my fav sounding records have those names in common. Love your fun content and have a nice day!
Got u big dog arf arf😅😅
Wondering when Finn is gonna review the Morbid Visions re-recording Max and Igor Cavalera did.
Hey Finn, I'd like to hear your thought on bands like Orange 9mm, Cellophane, early Nonpoint (1st two albums), Hed P.E., The Melvins, Flaw or Dayinthelife?
Do you remember diecast or crossbreed?
Literally me hearing Finn talk shit about Olive Garden while driving to my shift at Olive Garden
Bruh you can't put Crowbar in the C tier while you're wearing an Acacia Strain shirt
Dude, KoRn’s first album is absolutely incredible, it’s so visceral and grimey.
BALL TONGUE!!!!!
Good songs but the bass sounds like a filing cabinet falling down a fire escape
@@stevec6427LOL I like the bass sound
@@stevec6427it does, but that’s the best part
I’m a overweight guy in my thirties with a beard… and I love clutch haha I’m truly unashamed about it too. Well played Finn, well played.
Me too man, I’m so triggered 😂 and I love tool and I’m an insufferable r-tard 😂
Yep, I felt that one too. lol.
So am I. Rejoice!
I'm not overweight or bearded lol
The first two clutch albums are classic. Self titled is a top 10 90s album. I get the new shit is generic , but why do we judge these bands on their fat Elvis stages?
I saw Sepultura open for Ministry in Sep's first show ever in Canada. My hearing is still impacted... Worth it.
Yeah, Sepultura owned on that tour, they came out, melted your face then Helmet was a disappointment after that until Ministry came on.
Crowbar should at least be B tier. They (along with COC) are the best of the southern sludge bands. They have the slow punishing riffs without the dope-fiend, unalive yourself lyrics.
I could never get through a Buzzoven or Eyehategod record, but Crowbar always pushes through the misery in a very moving way.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Respect.
As a prog metal fan who consumes a lot of prog metal, I'd like to let you know you can both be a fan of the wider genre and think Tool is top tier prog metal. Mainly because they are. Insufferable fans and a massive fan base don't automatically make the band suck. Multiple things can be true at the same time.
Also another thing to consider is as the world gets bigger and there's more people. The odds that you'll like something with an insufferable fan base are really high. Don't let them take great things from you.
Well said
He mainly said the music got more stale as time went on as a basis for their ranking. Which I agree with. 10,000 Days and Fear Inoculum are very meandering and incredibly different than AEnima and Undertow. Not liking the change is fair.
@prophetsatirical8946 It sounds like you both just don't like prog metal. Long, intricately composed and adventurous songs are staples of the sub genre.
@@thelaughingstormbornagain1297 you would be correct. I don’t like prog metal. If someone’s a fan of Tool but not prog, you can’t expect them to be excited about what came after Lateralus.
As a metal head who was raised by deadheads, Primus becoming a jam band was one of the best things to happen
Interesting take.
Primus and Jane's Addiction weirdly united a lot of genre fans. You'd find thrash metallers, hippies and weird college rock kids at their shows.
Ministry's run from 1986 to 1996 is some of sickest shit ever. From ebm to industrial metal to full-on sludge. Their 1990 live album is pure sonic crushing brutality. Their mid 00s trilogy is also really good, the one with Tommy Victor is quite intense
Yeah, love the mid 2000's trilogy! Al got off the heroin and was on fire musically.
Filth PIg was my favourite album from Ministry when it came out,still love Psalm 69 but Filth Pig is just so heavy.
In case you didn't feel like showing up live is one of the best live albums in the history of rock. Never gets old
@@mattmiller4821 have you heard the Necronomicon version?
@@mikespearwood3914 he got his shit together after inconsistent spoon and animositisomina. Death and Destruction, Rio Grande, Senor Peligro, Warp City, Great Satan. Bush trilogy got some monster songs
Best metal album of the 90s that no one talks about is Sponge - Rotting Pinata. It was the album that had a big influence on Akira Yamaoka who did all of the amazing soundtracks for the Silent Hill games.
thanks gotta check them out
I love this comment! It's not metal, very much alternative/hard rock, but an amazing album. Love Vinnie Dombroski and Sponge. So underrated.
Sponge is too post grunge/hard rock to be metal. Imho. Doesn’t make them bad just not metal.
@@mramisuzuki6962 They had some light metal elements like AIC and Soundgarden, but are definitely more like grunge mixed with the Gin Blossoms.
Thank you for giving LoA so much credit! River Runs Red left such a mark with us when it came out. Those were our golden music years, we were 18y old german metal kids who got to listen to Body Count, Judgement Night and LoA amongst other great new (for us) music in those years. Maybe Ugly just didn't have the same impact two years later, but I still love it. Glad they all toured Europe as well! Again, thank you!
Danzig is my favorite band… That said, there are only 4 Danzig albums. Glenn went on to become a goth monk somewhere after Danzig 4.
About that “olive garden” syndrome you keep referring to, weirder isn’t alway better.
Sometimes some bands achieve the perfect balance of weird and accessible , and that’s Tool, Radiohead and Deftones.
Fred may have stopped writing in Meshuggah few years ago, but his presence is SO obvious when he plays live with them. Looking forward to seeing Meshuggah in November.
Gwar is still awesome live.
Havent seen GWAR since Dave passed, but they are definitely still going strong.
@@Routerninja you should go and try them out again.they sound way professional and a lot of the jerks don't go to the show anymore so the pit is a lot safer.
Genuinely surprised on the danzig take. Danzing 1, 2, and 3 are killer albums. Also danzig 6 is my guilty pleasure even though its pretty bad.
Opeth, in flames, bolt thrower, children of bodom, arch enemy just a few that should show up
Dead Embryonic Cells is the greatest thrash song of all time. Change my mind.
desperate cry is almost better
I can't because that breakdown is the first thing I think of when that song is mentioned.that song kicks tons of ass
I'm a big Clutch fan but the OutBack Steak House joke had me dying, I mean you're not wrong. Another great video, great work man. Thanks for brightening up my day with some fun 90's nostalgia.
I absolutely love Primus and they are insane musicians
Honestly kind of surprised that Finn didn't put tool higher. Not because I'm a fan, but because they are "Olive Garden prog". He tends to like catchiness and bands that bring underground music to the mainstream and Tool def did that. I mean you average active rock listener doesn't want to hear Cynic or Atheist. But they love Tool. I would have thought Finn would respect that. Of course he hates a passionate fan base so maybe that offsets it😂
@@ghost_mallthat's showbusiness!
The first Danzig album is perfection .
For me the first Danzig album is front to back…I don’t even just pick out individual songs…I start with twist of Cain and just let it play
I would mostly agree, but lines like “light you up like Christmas” are pretty bad. Danzig 2 and 3 are some of my favorite records ever though
@@ryanholt9747 that song, "The Hunter" is an old blues song. It was even covered by Tina Turner.
First three albums are good. It's simple solid bluesy metal, like a blend of the Door and Black Sabbath. And you have Chuck Biscuits on drums and John Christ is a damn good guitarist. The rest of his stuff is where I lost interest.
Lateralus and 10,000 days are masterpieces.
I’m glad he brought up Pork Soda by Primus. That’s a funky album.
Bass sounds like a cannon lol
My fav band of all time and I admit, Its their last great one.
That Neurosis roast🔥 sounds like Cartman talking about Hippies😂😂
The Clutch part also funny. Never heard about these bands and I don’t feel like I’ve missed something.
I discovered Clutch cause they were in Left 4 Dead 2 and later The Walk Dead,so I associate them as the Zombie killing band
Danzig and the misfits are the bands that made me realize there are merch bands, and just because alot of people wear a band shirt it doesn’t mean they’re good. And it’s also when I realized people say they like a band because they think they’re supposed to.
Also to a lesser extent than with slipknot, I realized bands can have logos and imagery that they are going to be heavy, but are far from it.
Slipknot's logo and look make sense for their sound imo. And I love the misfits. Danzig is hit or miss, mostly mid. I checked them out deeply in like 2015 and haven't listened since
@@godwarrior3403 ehh slipknot looks like they’d be heavy, I don’t think it fits tbh
Misfits best album wasn't even released when it was recorded and when it finally came out it managed to relaunch the band.
Yeah, I tried getting into misfits because all the people I thought were cool wore their shirts and I listened to them and was thoroughly disappointed at how not heavy they were
Finn “I’d rather listen to Danzig than Tool” McKenty
Me too
I would
the Clutch segment had me LMAO. Nailed it 💯
Clutch and their fans look like employees at Kenny Rogers Roasters.
numetal rules just face it and finally something we agree on KoRn is great and belongs on s tier
Finn is so well researched and detailed with his appreciation of bands, especially classic, highly respected bands. Dear Finn, if you like sludge metal, I want to recommend you the entire Isis the Band (named after the Egyptian goddess of magic and wisdom rather than the extremist group) discography as well as Harvey Milk's first album, their album The Pleaser, Special Wishes and Life... the Best Game in Town. They are often underappreciated and are very gritty. They also often rerain a feel good attitude while having uplifting, yet crushing riffs. The teamwork of the instrumental sections is very organic and natural like a Steve Albini record. I think you would possibly enjoy those records a LOT if you haven't already heard them. Thank you Finn for bringing awareness to the younger generations about these hard working, consistent, and original artists. I have learned a lot from this channel, and the edits that give a visual representation are unmatched and make this channel very professional by including great detail and doing justice to a bands' essence
I hope you talk about GWAR one of these day! Just insanely creative and those riffs? Heavy as all heck!
I love this stuff infinitely more than the stuff on your main channel these days ❤
-Adrenaline( 1995)
-Around the Fur( 1997) they are pretty damn good too, if you know what am thalking about.
Definitely
Yea if you're gonna mention korn then why not
Arise is like a perfect middle ground of where thrash meets death metal.
I agree.their first Three albums definitely flirted with death metal but I can honestly say I dug both chaos AD and roots.they changed their style and I didn't hate it like I did at first.i just wish max and the rest of the band would have settled their differences.
Finn, did you see the Cavalera brothers re-recorded the first EP and Morbid Visions? They released it last month, and it sounds amazing. Heavy AF while respecting the original style. Good stuff.
It pisses me off a bit, they both decided to quit the band, then since their new projects aren't really booming they decide to nostalgia bait people again. If only Max could be mature enough to separate business from his personal life...
Lot's of studio trickery on both since they can hardly play those songs nowadays....sad
I understand there was bad blood between all of them back then but for the life of me I can't understand why they couldn't settle their differences and make music again.neither side has done anything better than when they were all together in my opinion.soulfly had a couple good songs and the new sepultura had a couple but they were fantastic together
Glad you spoke reasonably about Tool this time haha.
Tool = Olive Garden band. Classic Finn.
new to the channel... glad you are a true metal head yet recognize Korn as S-tier. MY MAN!
Glad you included Ministry. Just One Fix was our jam.
Thanks for giving GWAR some love. Such an underrated band! Shudder has a fantastic documentary about them called This Is GWAR. It's a super interesting, captivating story, even if you're not a fan.
Yes! Keep em coming 🔥
Agreed. Sepultura is better than any thrash band not named Slayer.
Agreed
That's the funniest thing that you said about Clutch sounding like an Outback Steakhouse commercial 😂😂
I love that you mentioned BLOODLET on this one. "As The Seraphim Falls" is one of my favorite albums.
Growing up in Russia 90s were the Metal decade for real. As a 10 - 12 ywar old kid i could name 10 bands without ever hearing them just off t shirts that folks were wearing all around. It was a go to genre for alternative and nonformal culture.
"90s Tier List"
Proceeds to rank the bands based on their post-90s music.
your clutch description is perfect.
Finally you gave sepultura some props.i was hoping you wasn't gonna go through part 2 and leave them out.i was a huge Pantera fan but i listened to sepultura almost as much.arise, beneath the remains, chaos AD,and roots were absolutely fantastic
I don't know any other songs by the band Floater, but the ballad of johnny boy is a song a i frequent... anyone have thoughts? I couldn't tell what I was listening to at first, but i only have so much time to find more music. Just curious what people think about them.
The first 4 Danzig albums were awesome. I saw that original line-up in 1992 and it was the best show I have ever been to. They were incredibly tight live. I saw them 10 years later and they sucked. His voice was blown His output sucked for the most part after those 4 albums.
He turned on clutch and I immediately fell in love with that band 😂
Finn was extra critical this round.
If Allen Ginsburg had written those Gwar lyrics, he’d get a Nobel Laureate prize
I wore a faded jean vest at a Gwar show and got alien blood all over it and of course kept wearing it. Got called gay by a few dummies cause it went pink after a while. Hahahah "if murderous aliens here to inslave the human race are gay, then i guess i am too" lol they didn't know what to say lol
Would love to see a similar tier list video but of today’s rock/metal bands. “Octanecore Tier List” or something lmao
I went to see The Fall of Troy and Coheed and Cambria and the only thing weirder than that pairing was that Clutch played in the middle. You could easily tell the Clutch fans because they looked terrified and confused while sitting on the bleachers during Fall of Troy while waiting for Clutch to play. I decided to give them a chance as I had never heard them before. I got as far as them referring to a woman as sugar and the first harmonica break before I decided to just wait outside for Coheed lol
I like tool because they kind of got me into branching out as a bass guitar player. I think on a technical level they are unmatched their drummer is phenomenal there bass player the guitar player the way they harmonize is beautiful and Maynard has a great songwriter however I agree with you that some of their stuff just goes on too long and it does become kind of boring. I didn't want to admit it but I think you nailed it on the head and admitted what we kind of already felt but didn't want to say LOL
C. O. C for sure needs to be on the list!!!
Soundtracks in the 90's where something special, listened to Spawn and The Crow ost a lot.
I have the Spawn ST, definitely a unique album
Being from New orleans, meet them many times, very nice guys!
I know there a grudge band but Alice In Chains is S tier
Definitely the most metal of 90's alternative.
Definitely a Crossover band. They use quite a bit of styles
Ministry up to 1996 are mad geniuses
Bro you nailed it I’ve been saying that for a while even the shit from the 90s we thought sucked is still better than most of this shit around today idk. Metal has come a long way but I’m not directions I think? Love the content man
The guitarist of Rise Against did a stint playing in Gwar.
Love Surgery from Gwar when they start shredding is awesome!!
Fin ever considered doing a video on acid bath I know there not necessarily the greatest band or talked about but I honestly think worth a and honorary mention
I miss the non-PC 90s.
Green Jello...the poor man's GWAR.
"This sounds like a fucking outback steakhouse commercial" lmao 😂
I love Clutch but Outback Steakhouse commercial got me chuckling
Judas Priest, whilst an ol' G of metal and not really a 90s band, did release Painkiller in 1990 (just before the buzzer), and really that is what S sounds like. Tool is mid at best 👍
GWAR sprayed me on Saturday. Was awesome AF.
Some really underrated 90’s Hard Rock and Metal bands
Prong
Quicksand
Gruntruck
Acid Bath
24-7 Spyz
My Sister’s Machine
River Runs Red IS the best album, and Caputo's vocals are iconic. S+++
I would like to see you talk about Sepultura
Me too.he did a whole video on Pantera and I dug that.i wish he would do the same with sepultura.they damn sure deserved it
I'd like to see where you'd rank my favorite 2 bands from the 90's
Candiria &the dillinger escape plan
I can't believe I agree with Finn in regards to Ministry. I agree with Finn about once a year on music.
Outback Steakhouse commercial comparison on point 😂
"Outback Steakhouse commercial" haha fuckin nailed it
Life of Agony all day long! But Finn...no Monster Voodoo Machine!? Dominated my high school Playlist lol
Overweight man in my 30’s here with a beard and a Clutch inspired tattoo 😅. They were my dad’s favorite band, my kid likes them too so maybe it’s hereditary.
Sepultura (max Cavalera era) and Soulfly were my jam for so many years
Hell yea songs like dead embryonic cells, territory,slave new world,arise,altered state, attitude,straight hate,look away, desperate cry just to name a few were kickass.i thought they were one of only a few bands that could keep pace with Pantera.
I’ve seen Gwar twice within the last three weeks, and they’ve been covering If you want blood by ACDC, and I just wanna say that Blothar is a genuinely great vocalist but you won’t realize it until you hear them play that song live. A Bon Scott track of all songs is where Blothar vocals truly shine
Finn makes Monday great again
Discarding post Nothing Meshuggah is downright outrageous 😂. Catch 33, Obzen are Metal staples and changed the game of music making even beyond Metal. The “songs” are tracks like Combustion ( basically a heavier Punk rock song ), Do not look down and Demiurge … They consistently released albums that have face melting intensity and catchiness all the way up until 2022 their last album.
Bingo!
Was at the Bloodlet show Neurosis. El Dopa opened.
17:24 What is "Yellowstone music"?
Facts! Mayonaise Jim Keenan has pushed the band in a "Dad Rock" direction for the past 20 years. Too much, "Rogan DMT" influence in my opinion.
Finn on point as usual. Life of Agony is so good. I didn't really know much about this band so thanks for dropping them in here. Also, back in the early 2000s I had a couple friends constantly fanboying Clutch and I just never got it. Clutch is terrible.
How tf does Neurosis end up on the F tier?! They peaked in the 90’s…
And F is the peak
Clutch's second album is some of the coolest sounding albums ever. Spacegrass, man
Thank you. These kids today overlook that album
Transnational, self titled , Elephant Riders and Blast Tyrant are all classics IMO. I understand why they aren't for everyone though.
@@mattmiller4821 the moment on Texan book of the dead when the song casually slips into full on boyscout singalong - you know these guys don't fuck around. And then escape from the prison planet is basically Snake Plissken entrance theme
@@volodymyrbilyk555 LOL EXACTLY.......except its the chipmunks right? Witch Doctor - Dave Saville 1958. Anyways, every track is a banger. Showcasing Neil Falon's lyrical genius at its peak. The problem is , kids that have been introduced to later Clutch automatically dismiss the early shit.
@@mattmiller4821 thanks for pointing that out. I was unaware of this reference. What's your opinion on the alternate clutch incarnation- the bakerton group?
Nah you aint missing anything finn I think I did have my worship moments with clutch but at the same time they sparked my heavy metal journey and they have really good music thats all I can say
Clutch is a vibe. Nothing better than doing a dab, putting some nice cans on, sitting back and jamming to Clutch.
FIREBIRDS!
Energy weapons.
Both of these things are interesting to me.
I don't care how you get them,
I need them both and I need them urgently!
the funniest thing is that the vast majority of Life Of Agony's lyrics - including the darkest ones - were written by... bassist Alan Robert.
Mina wrote only two lyrics for the album on "Ugly" - about her mom. On "Soul Searching Sun" they already wrote half and half, but on the first record - they were all Alan's.
dude, more of these
That early ministry songs sounds like early Rammstein. I like the sound of that.
Also... You just can't put Tool and Danzig on the same level. Tool up to A tier!
Holy hell, that's where Volbeat's sound came from. Pretty much just Life of Agony.
Thank you! I was trying to come up with the band on the tip of my brain that sounded so much like that. Volbeat. You nailed it.
Ministry is fucking awesome.
Here in New Orleans people really love crowbar. I didn’t realize that they have grown in popularity in recent years, though. Weird
Who tf is clutch? I’ve never even heard of them
There's always a middle aged guy at the bar in black New Balance playing TOOL on the TouchTunes 😂
My dad died in the 90s listening to me rant on and on about how I couldn’t believe anyone liked Crowbar. I still can’t talk about it, so I’ll say this…he went to the garage and used a long steel lever with a goose neck and a notch to pull out nails at one end, and at the other end flattened points to force two objects apart or gain mechanical advantage in lifting, to suicide by repeatedly battering himself over the head.