I tried this in1966. But I got the best results from wetting the match tip, with alcohol then filling the primer cup with the paste. When you put the anvil in there is no chance for accidentally igniting the mix. They will dry according to,temp,and humidity. In a dry warm place from as little as1 hour, to as long as 24 hours. Then they will work as a mild primer.
to make it less awkward and more consistent firing. i use alcohol to make a paste of the tips. then cap it off with a small sheet of tissue paper. the paper aids in the drying process and doesn't hinder the use of the primer. the paste also helps in miss fires. when you use match tips dry, the pieces of match tip can migrate from the anvil = misfires.... to make a hotter mixture. you can experiment with fine particulate metal filings by mixing in iron or aluminum or other metals into the paste. that's what makes gun powders more potent. metal fillings also give fireworks their colors too.
Let me help you out. The "strike anywhere" match tip contains a mixture of phosphorus sesquisulfide and potassium chlorate. Phosphorus sesquisulfide is a highly reactive, non-toxic chemical used in place of white phosphorus. It is easily ignited by the heat of friction against a rough surface. The potassium chlorate supplies the oxygen needed for combustion. The tip also contains powdered glass and other inert filler material to increase the friction and control the burning rate.
Ingenious presentation, thank you! Note that when a 1911 slide is locked open and a round is dropped directly into the chamber and the slide is snapped shut it makes the extractor work in a way it is not designed to. Instead of allowing the cartridge to slide behind the extractor's hook from the underside, it forces the extractor's blunt leading nose to impact the rear of the cartridge at high speed. This can cause the extractor hook to fracture and snap off, thus causing an immediate problem.
Sir i wanna be the first to say, i have seen a lot of bozos here on the tube on gun issues even the two stooges, you sir are a fucking genesis for some one to come up with the ideal on how to reuse a primer of all things who would have ever thought of that.This is and Oscar performance and i wanna be the one to handing it to you. this video should have a million hits.To all you gun owners their will be a time in life were you or some one in your family will have to do this save your used primers
@dogbone222 The anvil is part of the primer. Ring caps would not work because the primer itself is exposed to a lot of pressure. The material in will work.
It all depends on the extractor... some are rounded off at the front to do just that. What's true is that long-extractor Mauser systems most definetely do NOT like being closed on a chambered case, but most other guns deal with it just fine.
... (2/2) The base contains many of the same materials as the tip, but has a smaller amount of phosphorus sesquisulfide. It also contains sulfur, rosin, and a small amount of paraffin wax to sustain combustion. A water-soluble dye may be added to give the base a color such as red or blue.
Would it be possible to use tannerite? Grind up the base, then add the 2nd part to the ground up base, add that to the primer. Plus, I think a small, thin piece of paper, like that of coffee filter paper, in between the powder and the anvil, to keep the mixture in. Worth a try?
I know you mentioned that these are corrosive, but just thought I'd add "why". The material in the match tips draws in moisture to it, causing the corrosion. Cleaning with an oil patch alone won't dissolve these unspent salts, which embed themselves into the pores of the barrel. The best way to clean the barrel after using phosphorus based primers is with hot water, which will dissolve and flush the salts away. THEN clean, dry, and oil the barrel. Wasn't as big of a problem with black power, as the black powder naturally coated the barrel with crap, protecting it from the primer/caps. Modern smokeless gunpowder won't do this, hence the change to different priming agents. This being said, in hard times, I'd still use this. Even a corrosive primer is better than no primer when the S%% hits the fan. Well done.
i noticed you doing up a rifle casing and i was wondering how those tests went. i have seen a few idea like this one. there is a cap maker in the dixie cataloge for rifle caps and the use a punch and kids caps yes the spool of red caps from your childhood i have tried it and it will work but you would need to store rolls of caps now before they make owning them illegal
can you make the anvil by your self at home for small parts around the house? if so please try it. i dunno if it'll work. and what about ring caps will it send off sparks?
Obama and his friends may have us all doing this some day, for now I am going to put away a few extra thousend primers, I have huge fingers and this would be almost impossable for me! Thanks for the videos!
I thought about trying this once by using percussion cap powder, but thought twice about removing the active element from the caps. I assume that it would be fulminate of mercury?
if you had to do so, i guess this can work. .however, i think i would rather go flintlock before doing this.. if the rounds sit for to long, the match head powder could work out of the primer and into the round, and not work at all or worse go off in your storage. expeically if its stored in a vehicle where lots of vibration is. one thing about primer powder, its made to specifically go off when 15 lps of force hits it.. match sticks are no where near that, closer to 5lps..
Nice Video, I would like to see a Video of these primers working with assembled rounds. I'm gonna try it and run them over my Chrono and compare them with a Known Chrono'd load. Thanks for the Info. 'Nitro
Impressive. Would have been interesting to see the residue of a store bought primer in comparison to this home made primer--shoot them both at the same card.
What is 'the anvil'? And thanks for showing this video. First one like it that I've seen. Also, could you explain how this works scientifically, for me?
have you made and shot any real ammo with this method to see what the results actually are? because you said in the video that the pop makes you reasonably assume it would ignite a charge.
Cool video, but man that looks tedious! It almost makes me willing to apy the $50 + shipping scalper prices for pistol primers (especially since you point out towards the end of the video that these aren't 100%). Still, very nice to know used primers can actually be used again.
tweesers might help no ? good job this is somehting im really worried about.. not able to use my bullets for lack of primers. he could that powder be made into a solution maybe..?
i have tried it and it will work but its more of a got to situation when all else has gone after all the kids caps are not something a looter would look for
Just went to my local gun shop bought a brick of primers reloaded 1000 bullets and you still haven't finished recycling one primer. :p Nice video though!
Not smart. Most likely would destroy the primer and cause it to blow back (depending on the weapon) possibly destroying the bolt face and/or lodging the bullet in the barrel with not enough force to exit.
@@ammosmith I know, if you lived in California you would understand my partial sarcasm and over exaggeration. but yeah making a lightning link for an ar-15 is much easier than most people assume. I got books on building all sorts of stuff deep in storage. keep up with the good content. I got a question whats your go to powder for small pistol cartridges? im wanting to get into reloading, for starting ill be reloading my 380 and 9mm. thinking of getting the rcbs rock chucker kit, or a cheaper press what your recommendation? later ill be reloading 45-70 with casted bullets and 30-06 hunting rounds
i agree, this will create issue with all businesses, mostly small mom and pop stores who have a hard enough time as it is. my understanding is that its not touching the residential side but instead its going to classify and treat commercial property differently, this will undoubtedly cause a major issue in large and small lease agreements and outright owners. i think i read somewhere that it plans to adjust the tax amount every 3 years based on the required reassessment. but im not too sure
Interesting idea for emergency primers.. this may have already been discussed, but i'm feeling too lazy to look around for the answer.. Have you tried a few of these and actually fired them? is there any delay between primer strike and ignition, or is the delay so nominal it's almost unnoticable?
CERTAINLY NOT TO KNOCK RELOADING AS I ALSO DO RELOAD, THE BULK AMMO SUGGESTION WAS MORE FOR THE NON-TECHNICAL TYPE OF SHOOTER WHO MIGHT NOT EVER MASTER THE SCIENCE OF RELOADING. PRIMERS ARE PLENTIFUL TO FIND IF YOU KNOW WHERE. MAKING THEM IS DANGEROUS AND STUPID. AS WITH ALL FIREARMS, POWDERS AND PRIMERS, SAFETY ALWAYS COMES FIRST.
Dont ever try this primer reload method,as its highly unstable, The powdered form of primer mix will spill out between the cup and anvil and the primer wont fire at all. Recoil pressures from a previous round could ignite the match head material, and the firearm will blow your you damned head off. Just buy bulk ammo......and forget you ever saw saw this ridiculous video.
I tried this in1966. But I got the best results from wetting the match tip, with alcohol then filling the primer cup with the paste. When you put the anvil in there is no chance for accidentally igniting the mix. They will dry according to,temp,and humidity. In a dry warm place from as little as1 hour, to as long as 24 hours. Then they will work as a mild primer.
thanks
this video made me order 25K primers. I'm NEVER doing this. Ever.
thanks man!
Hehe...
@@MrHeuvaladao
....and here we are, 2020...Fuck the Democrats
March 2021, too late for me!😭
@@culebrasty Sept. 2021 none on the shelves at stores / but I'm ok .
to make it less awkward and more consistent firing. i use alcohol to make a paste of the tips. then cap it off with a small sheet of tissue paper. the paper aids in the drying process and doesn't hinder the use of the primer. the paste also helps in miss fires. when you use match tips dry, the pieces of match tip can migrate from the anvil = misfires.... to make a hotter mixture. you can experiment with fine particulate metal filings by mixing in iron or aluminum or other metals into the paste. that's what makes gun powders more potent. metal fillings also give fireworks their colors too.
Great.
Now next week I won't be able to find wooden matches anywhere. :(
Toy gun caps work good too, 2 caps and bang.
Let me help you out. The "strike anywhere" match tip contains a mixture of phosphorus sesquisulfide and potassium chlorate. Phosphorus sesquisulfide is a highly reactive, non-toxic chemical used in place of white phosphorus. It is easily ignited by the heat of friction against a rough surface. The potassium chlorate supplies the oxygen needed for combustion. The tip also contains powdered glass and other inert filler material to increase the friction and control the burning rate.
Ammosmith! You are the man..
Thanks for your diligence in putting these
videos together. They are very useful for me.
You are a bad mutha ammosmith!!! When I started reloading I always wondered that the only thing I could not make was a primer!!!
Thanks, I have always just dumped my spent primers in to a 5 gal bucket. I must have a 100 thousand of them.
Good tip in a pinch.
You want to sell them ?
Wanna sell some? 👀
@@patrioticsaint2516 lol
@@ChelaxIndustries lol
Ingenious presentation, thank you!
Note that when a 1911 slide is locked open and a round is dropped directly into the chamber and the slide is snapped shut it makes the extractor work in a way it is not designed to. Instead of allowing the cartridge to slide behind the extractor's hook from the underside, it forces the extractor's blunt leading nose to impact the rear of the cartridge at high speed. This can cause the extractor hook to fracture and snap off, thus causing an immediate problem.
Okay, i was about to leave your channel and i thought i would give it one more go. And then sow this EPIC part 2. Holy shit you love primers
Yes, be careful. I haven't tried it with rifle yet so watch your pressures.
Sir i wanna be the first to say, i have seen a lot of bozos here on the tube on gun issues even the two stooges, you sir are a fucking genesis for some one to come up with the ideal on how to reuse a primer of all things who would have ever thought of that.This is and Oscar performance and i wanna be the one to handing it to you. this video should have a million hits.To all you gun owners their will be a time in life were you or some one in your family will have to do this save your used primers
Excellent connection of product & idea.
@dogbone222 The anvil is part of the primer. Ring caps would not work because the primer itself is exposed to a lot of pressure. The material in will work.
Awesome post! great info Thanks.
You might. Paper roll caps for cap guns works too.
I think it would work great. I haven't tried it though. I think I might have to.
It all depends on the extractor... some are rounded off at the front to do just that.
What's true is that long-extractor Mauser systems most definetely do NOT like being closed on a chambered case, but most other guns deal with it just fine.
@palex9 I'm sure there is but this video is intended as a last ditch effort if the stores are closed and you're in a deep shit situation
@Michael Wolff I got a lot of salty comments about this video in the past. Now it's more relevant than when it was first made.
... (2/2)
The base contains many of the same materials as the tip, but has a smaller amount of phosphorus sesquisulfide. It also contains sulfur, rosin, and a small amount of paraffin wax to sustain combustion. A water-soluble dye may be added to give the base a color such as red or blue.
Would it be possible to use tannerite? Grind up the base, then add the 2nd part to the ground up base, add that to the primer. Plus, I think a small, thin piece of paper, like that of coffee filter paper, in between the powder and the anvil, to keep the mixture in. Worth a try?
I know you mentioned that these are corrosive, but just thought I'd add "why". The material in the match tips draws in moisture to it, causing the corrosion. Cleaning with an oil patch alone won't dissolve these unspent salts, which embed themselves into the pores of the barrel. The best way to clean the barrel after using phosphorus based primers is with hot water, which will dissolve and flush the salts away. THEN clean, dry, and oil the barrel. Wasn't as big of a problem with black power, as the black powder naturally coated the barrel with crap, protecting it from the primer/caps. Modern smokeless gunpowder won't do this, hence the change to different priming agents. This being said, in hard times, I'd still use this. Even a corrosive primer is better than no primer when the S%% hits the fan. Well done.
I am experimenting with paper roll caps. So far so good. Use a small hole punch and you'll get a nice clean cut. 2-3 seem to work good.
Does this work with rifle primers as well?
@@hunterjager9538 Yes
Are you soaking them down with a solvent before using a hole punch?
@@kb3kyx no. the cups are empty.
Can you use the cap gun powder for the igniter? I would think it would work better since it's pressure sensitive
Go to the toy store and get those red paper caps for cap guns.
i noticed you doing up a rifle casing and i was wondering how those tests went. i have seen a few idea like this one. there is a cap maker in the dixie cataloge for rifle caps and the use a punch and kids caps yes the spool of red caps from your childhood i have tried it and it will work but you would need to store rolls of caps now before they make owning them illegal
I am trying paper cap gun caps now..very promising.
Yes this is the way...... working for me for sure!!
That's the part you use...I wasn't very studious about getting just the white part off...still worked though.
Thanks!
Yes this is the subject, which i'am working on as well, What if we can't get primers for reloading, Cheers thanks for the video's
can you make the anvil by your self at home for small parts around the house? if so please try it. i dunno if it'll work. and what about ring caps will it send off sparks?
Obama and his friends may have us all doing this some day, for now I am going to put away a few extra thousend primers, I have huge fingers and this would be almost impossable for me! Thanks for the videos!
I thought about trying this once by using percussion cap powder, but thought twice about removing the active element from the caps. I assume that it would be fulminate of mercury?
if you had to do so, i guess this can work. .however, i think i would rather go flintlock before doing this.. if the rounds sit for to long, the match head powder could work out of the primer and into the round, and not work at all or worse go off in your storage. expeically if its stored in a vehicle where lots of vibration is. one thing about primer powder, its made to specifically go off when 15 lps of force hits it.. match sticks are no where near that, closer to 5lps..
I didn't try it dut to my concern over pressure and a possible punctured primer cup.
Nice Video,
I would like to see a Video of these primers working with assembled rounds.
I'm gonna try it and run them over my Chrono and compare them with a Known Chrono'd load.
Thanks for the Info.
'Nitro
Impressive. Would have been interesting to see the residue of a store bought primer in comparison to this home made primer--shoot them both at the same card.
What is 'the anvil'? And thanks for showing this video. First one like it that I've seen. Also, could you explain how this works scientifically, for me?
is it possible to empty muzzel load primers out and ues that matterial for reloading primers?? it is still easy to get muzzel load primers,,
have you made and shot any real ammo with this method to see what the results actually are? because you said in the video that the pop makes you reasonably assume it would ignite a charge.
if you have enought patience and some "fine" file(tool) for metal, you can try to do the anvil with some nail heads...
Cool video, but man that looks tedious! It almost makes me willing to apy the $50 + shipping scalper prices for pistol primers (especially since you point out towards the end of the video that these aren't 100%). Still, very nice to know used primers can actually be used again.
Make sure you clean your barrel...it's corrosive.
tweesers might help no ? good job this is somehting im really worried about.. not able to use my bullets for lack of primers. he could that powder be made into a solution maybe..?
@ammosmith I don't have a primer machine, can i do it without it?
i have tried it and it will work but its more of a got to situation when all else has gone after all the kids caps are not something a looter would look for
I think that had belly button lint and hair follicles and dry skin particles and all..... is that required as well?
Just went to my local gun shop bought a brick of primers reloaded 1000 bullets and you still haven't finished recycling one primer. :p Nice video though!
it worked
You think this method would be okay for .223 rifle pressures?
I wouldn't.
What is the white stuff at the tip of the match? Can't you just buy that, instead of matches?
it a military field manual. and the name of that manual was stated as above. IMPROVISED MUNITIONS..
The primers needs to be smokeless for our modern guns, or will have gum up automatics
Man, that will make you appreciate $25/1000. I will go get more now. Like right now.
But thanks, you just never know.
Now, on gun broker $400/1000😂
that's an old myth, modern extractors can handle it just fine.
Not smart. Most likely would destroy the primer and cause it to blow back (depending on the weapon) possibly destroying the bolt face and/or lodging the bullet in the barrel with not enough force to exit.
Phosphorous is a regulated chemical. You need a license to purchase it.
Good for all tyrants and dictators alike...
Um...I wouldn't.
sketchy...but possible.
I tried to do this, But I broke down and snorted it all up, Hell its worst than Crank
for some reason i keep on expecting the atf to kick down your door for making primers lol
Why...I'm not manufacturing explosives. You should see the illegal stuff on UA-cam like people making machine guns and silencers...
@@ammosmith I know, if you lived in California you would understand my partial sarcasm and over exaggeration. but yeah making a lightning link for an ar-15 is much easier than most people assume. I got books on building all sorts of stuff deep in storage.
keep up with the good content. I got a question whats your go to powder for small pistol cartridges? im wanting to get into reloading, for starting ill be reloading my 380 and 9mm. thinking of getting the rcbs rock chucker kit, or a cheaper press what your recommendation? later ill be reloading 45-70 with casted bullets and 30-06 hunting rounds
@@blueridgeocean California is going after everyone who wants freedom. They are going to repeal Prop 13 next year.
i agree, this will create issue with all businesses, mostly small mom and pop stores who have a hard enough time as it is. my understanding is that its not touching the residential side but instead its going to classify and treat commercial property differently, this will undoubtedly cause a major issue in large and small lease agreements and outright owners. i think i read somewhere that it plans to adjust the tax amount every 3 years based on the required reassessment. but im not too sure
Too sensitive..acetone peroxide would be safer.
weak primers make a weak bullet, they need to be fast and hot
Interesting idea for emergency primers.. this may have already been discussed, but i'm feeling too lazy to look around for the answer.. Have you tried a few of these and actually fired them? is there any delay between primer strike and ignition, or is the delay so nominal it's almost unnoticable?
CERTAINLY NOT TO KNOCK RELOADING AS I ALSO DO RELOAD, THE BULK AMMO SUGGESTION WAS MORE FOR THE NON-TECHNICAL TYPE OF SHOOTER WHO MIGHT NOT EVER MASTER THE SCIENCE OF RELOADING. PRIMERS ARE PLENTIFUL TO FIND IF YOU KNOW WHERE. MAKING THEM IS DANGEROUS AND STUPID. AS WITH ALL FIREARMS, POWDERS AND PRIMERS, SAFETY ALWAYS COMES FIRST.
Much easier ways to do this
flachate rounds
Oh boy, making primers this way is not reliable.
No it's not but when you have no other choice.
Dont ever try this primer reload method,as its highly unstable, The powdered form of primer mix will spill out between the cup and anvil and the primer wont fire at all. Recoil pressures from a previous round could ignite the match head material, and the firearm will blow your you damned head off. Just buy bulk ammo......and forget you ever saw saw this ridiculous video.