Thanks man, best vid about loops I've seen so far. Been playing guitar for 20 years or so, wanna dive into loopers to busk in the streets, no clue whatsoever, but your smile and genuine atittude simply brought me the confidence I needed. Keep on rocking man
Love tip 6, you'll hate it you won't want to do it, but, you have to if you want good timing. 40 yrs playing and just got a looper. You have the best approach to teaching the art on UA-cam. Thank you
I found this helpful in my search for help to get started live looping. Great tips that I’ll be referring back to. Thank you friend for your great attitude!!!
You have a natural stage presence so congrats on that. Your tips are useful indeed. I too practice standing and tapping my foot when grooving. It improves my playing a lot. Best regards
David! I have been relentlessly searching UA-cam for a decent tutorial on timing loops correctly since purchasing my Boss 505mkII! So happy I was able to find this video as you break it down nice and simply. I was always doing the "tense - starting from downstoke 1" style you mentioned. Needless to say I was getting frusterated as my loops were rarely all-in-time (especially with 3-5 loops min per song at times). Thank you for this refreshing and upbeat tutorial its made a world of difference! Subscribing for more ; )
MOVING to the groove is such a great concept. I now sit, because as I play with a cajon player and want to be on same level. I still dance in my seat. I appreciate your POSITIVITY through all your vids and you are rare in that you are succinct and do not meander....that is so rare and refreshing on the youtube. I have learned also from years of playing a couple of things. 1) It is called PLAYING music so please don't yourself so seriously. I use a line from the great guitar player Glenn Campbell..."i know what your thinking, is there no beginning to this boys talent?". 2) Start your night off with lower volume than you think. You can always turn up.....I have never met a guitar player that ever turned down....both volume and gigs....it is possible to do both....just rare. 3) SLOW DOWN....both in performance and in song. I listen to the songs I do which get's a little tedious but I always find a tid bit in there somewhere. Too many times I have said, Hey why are they doing this song so slow? I also listen to songs to know the words so I do not stare at Ipad. If you sing Tom Petty wrong, people will sing the right words and their is always that guy that is gonna come up at break and bust your balls about how you sang TOM's words wrong except for the live version he did in a basement in Germany in 1984 which he has still has on cassette and before you know it your break is over and you did not get to quaff a pint or leave a pint..cheers
David, you are an excellent teacher. and you present your work in such a way that is definitely seems like it is within reach for a new looper. it is funny, I have been playing guitar for 30 years, I own the RC3 (and an old RC30), but I have never really been able to get much out of them (until now, thanks to you). I also have the Boss Octave pedal that I was trying to give away (but no one wanted it), and you showed me how to make loops like a Bass with my guitar. Very cool. Thanks so much. I cannot explain why you don't have 250K subs!. it will come. Mark
Mark! Thanks so much for this comment man! Appreciate it a lot :) Stoked that you are now getting good use out of your looper and having fun with the octave pedal too! 👌
Great video. I got a looper about a year ago and the instructions that came with it were frustrating, and other videos never really addressed the timing of the start/stop. I had tried a couple of times, got frustrated and haven't used it since. I am now re-inspired to try again. Thanks!
ah this is awesome! I hope you get to have some fun with it - takes a little bit (like anything) at the start to do the learning part, but hopefully this gets you through that phase so you can have fun with it! What looper are you using?
I have learned way more from drummers than other guitar players about performance and groove! My favorite lesson of all time was when my drummer looked threw his kit and pointed his stick at me. "You Fing guitar players have 14 knobs on those amps and you only ever turn one and you ever only turn it one way...UP". I was guilty as charged!
I get my first loop pedal this week and will be watching and using these vids to get me going for sure. Its a Boss RC30. Great video tutorials you make. Cheers.
are you running the jam man stereo? From memory that's the only one with an Aux input that I can recall. But if so then you'll have a mic input also... so I'm guessing one of the single pedal jam mans? hmmm. Is there any way of setting the lvl for the Aux (I'm guessing not). If not then you'd need to run your vocal into something first (to be able to set the mic level) and then into your loop pedal. It's not the ideal scenario, but depending on gear that you've got around you could at least get it to work!
ive just got a dittox4. its frustrating me a bit, the dreaded pause, but these tips are going to help, i need to relax more with it. thank you, your cute and smiley, hope all is well x
This video is great man! I’ve got to ask. I can hear my last beat and first beat start and stop if that makes sense . Like when the first beat comes back in you can tell it’s a loop . What am I doing wrong ? When do you press stop? After the 4th beat ?
Hey Matt! I would try starting your loop on the beat as you strum down on the first chord. the more specific you can make the point when you click the start of the loop the better. Then when you click to finish the loop make it on that exact same down strum. Even better click the loop on exactly as you hit the bass string on that first down strum, then click it off exactly as you hit the bass string on that first down strum when it comes around again. Let me know how you go trying this and we can chat if you still get stuck :)
Excellent! Few vids on this topic I watched before yours failed in comparison, yours is the most effective! And tip 5 😂 that's so me...thanks to you I now know what to do 👍 Cheers from South Africa
Thanks for sharing your talent and knowledge and helping others improve. Question, are you trying to catch the first note on the strong beat at the beginning tap or the end tap?? Seems like you are trying to tap the looper just before the first beat and tap it just before the first note to end the loop? That right?
Hats off to your continued tutoring. I do in fact, ( and posted on another of your videos) have trouble with initial loop synchronisation. Beat so far just off so I guess i just need to keep plugging away. Thanks so much. Also my volume seems too low on playback. Is there internal volume control? I did see your tip about decay already. 🤠
hey Mark - what loop pedal are you using? Also.. what setting are you practising looping in - is it at home with an acoustic guitar? ...often if the volume is low on an amp in an 'at home' practise type setting or a super small gig, it appears the volume is a lot lower on the loop because we're then only hearing the amp and not the natural volume of the acoustic in the room. (might not be what's happening but is quite common!) Let me know though!
@@davidshanhun im using VL3. Once i record loop playback volume is lower than guitar as both are played through amp. Amp is small Roland street cube Thanks for responding🤠
Nice tips! Metronome is the key element, YES! My drum teacher told me to have imaginary 16th notes metronoming in my head (or even 32s) to help keep in time better...no matter what I was playing on the drums. I only kept playing drums for 2 years but that was because I couldnt have a drumset at home :/ Im a guitarist singersongwriter now, 30 years later, and exploring the looping too
Great vid man, thanks. I can't place it but I reckon I've seen you before? Maybe busking in Browns Bay on a Saturday morning? I thought you were great btw, cheers.
Hey Phil, yep quite likely - I live in Browns Bay and been down a few times for a lil busk session ay :) Might even shoot out today and have a sing while it's nice and sunny!
heya! I usually just learn the original bass line from the song I'm playing as the first step - searching 'bass lesson' and then the song you're playing on youtube is a great starting point (some are more accurate than others of course!)
You say ro use a metronome. I have a korg mini drum machine and a boss dd8 delay. Never used the looper on the DD8 but now realise how much I should use it to practise. Anyway, I assume the drum machine would be better than a metronome wouldn't it? I tried the loop function tonight for the first time and I kept getting those pauses in my recording and just couldn't get a recently timed loop happening. Will practise with these tips tomoz. Thanks!
heya! Absolutely - great to play and practise with a drum machine and much more fun than a metronome! Have fun getting started with the loop function on the delay!
Hi David. I have a question. I use the RC30 looper and if I loop a couple of bars of a drumbeat/groove then I'm stuck with those two bars and can't record anything longer. At 4:35 you loop a short groove and then record a longer chord section on top of it. Is that particular to the looper you're using? Is it just the RC30 that won't allow me to do that or am i missing something? Thanks for the great tutorials. They've been really helpful. Loops are most definitely NOT the death of music.
Great question mate and yes, it is specific to the RC30 that you need to make them all the same length. I'm using a TC Helicon Voicelive 3, but if you want the equivalent pedal to the RC30 which allows you to have separate length tracks (that still sync together) then grab the ditto x4 - amzn.to/2RDVkTc . The ditto has become my backup looper.
yes - I understand. I have a mate with the RC30, and he's simply gotten used to it having everything at one length. Personally I find it SUPER handy being able to loop one channel as a one bar groove and it saves a lot of time if you want to overdub little bits into your groove as you play later on. But my buddy is a professional muso with a great sound and set up using the exact pedal you have for his loop work so just gotta go with what works for you!
Thanks so much for the replies David. Helped a great deal. I only just got the RC30 but i'm having a lot of fun with it and enjoying finding ways and songs to make it work in my set. It'll get me used to looping and I'll get another, like you described, further down the line. Thanks again. Your tutorials are a goldmine. @@davidshanhun
Oh and one more thing, do you have any tips/tricks for helping to bring a musical loop in at the right place? For example, if i record a beat/groove on one track and then a musical theme on the other track that is only used in the chorus then that theme is 'tied' to the place in the groove and, depending on where i am in the groove when the chorus comes round dictates when the theme starts. Do you know what i mean? The RC30 light goes red at the start of EVERY bar so it doesn't help. It's straightforward enough for songs like Free Falling but for more complex songs it can really trip me up.
Hi there David, my looper will be arriving tomorrow and while I've been waiting for it to be delivered, Ive been watching your tutorials just to familiarize myself with any concepts that might not be obvious when using a looper. Your tutorials have been brilliant, thank you for that. One idea that i am still unsure about is, say you record one measure of just some percussive rhythm first like you suggest. Would you then be able to loop, for example, a 4 measure progression over that? or would the over dub have to be the exact same length as the base loop? This would be using a single loop pedal such as the ditto. Thanks so much! Markus
Hey Markus! Yay that your looper arrives tomorrow and I'm glad these tutorials have been useful so far! With the ditto (the one pedal version), you would need to record the same length for each loop over top of each other - so I would start with your chord progression first in most cases, and then add in the groove/bass/extra parts. Otherwise you can add in 4 measures of a groove or beat, then loop your 4 measure chord progression to go with it. I have a friend that does that and it works great, just means you have to be a little bit tighter with your timing (if you speed up or slow down over those 4 measures it can be more noticeable). Feel free to message any time if you have questions or think I can help! Happy experimenting!
Hi David I learn a lot from your videos they are awesome and you are a great musician / teacher … How do you make the choice between doing the grove first and then the. Chord progression or vice versa. What difference does it make. How do you decide the structure of how you will loop the song and what different ways are possible ? To address the issue of changing the bar length later what options one has in terms of using different loopers etc Lots of questions but I am guessing you have heard them many times before and you are the only one that can answer these Great work buddy. Keep growing in your craft
Or you can just record one bar and still record as many bars as you want for other tracks also. Depends on your loop pedal and how you want to do things 👌
You'll have to plan out when you record it. Hopefully the chord progression for the part where you want more than one guitar exists earlier in the song. Tap in to record it then. I've run into this with a solo that plays over the verse chords. So, for example, the first time through on the verse tap the record button and capture it. Then you can let it play under the second verse and make sure you got a good recording. Then you can stop it and probably go into a chorus. Then when that solo part comes up tap to play the loop and then you can solo over it.
Hi i have a boss RC-2 looper and i am abit lost about what is the phrase and what you call a channel, can you help pls. This would solve my problem of having songs with 2 or 3 different parts to loop
Hi Clency, with the Boss RC-2 you only have one channel, but you can overdub as many phrases as you wish on top of it. So you can record your main phrase and this will play the whole time, and then you can only add extra parts to this phrase with your current loop pedal. Hope this helps!
David, Help me out here please... I just bought the voicelive 3 extreme (same menu as your vl3) how do I change it so Only the guitar is in the loop and not the mic? I can't seem to find that option. Thank you!
heya, go to your loop screen and hit 'util' and then 'input'. this video (at the timestamp) will walk you through it - ua-cam.com/video/Z84Ru0kKM4Y/v-deo.html
I think I know the answer here but... Is there a setting to have guitar and aux loop but not the vocal mic? Would save the tap dancing to switch inputs. I am not looping my vocal. like, ever.
I use a Zoom H4n pro recording device for most things - amzn.to/2CyIOOP. For this video I had it a bit far away so tried to edit the extra noise out (which is why it sounds a bit odd in some places). Buuut... to answer your question, I had my guitar (from the loop pedal) go into one channel on the H4n, then the vocal into a separate channel, and then it has two condensor mic's which picked up me talking in the room. Have a few friends that use different zoom recorders kinda like this - there's plenty of options. Hope that helps!
It‘s a hell of work to program ableton and get all automations and Midi orders right. But for performing live it‘s a lot easier and you can really focus on playing. I think its a huge benefit for your live playing
haha just another evolvement I reckon haha. Curious if you have listened to my original material or not before writing this comment. Just out of curiosity! :) Hope you're having a great day!
I use a lotta loops. Mostly drums, but these loopers tend to make everything sound the same. Do you have a song where you use it to good effect? I was looking at your channel and I couldn't see anything obviously loopy.
I actually don't have much on my channel where I use it... might be time to do some updating, and not much on my channel where I loop with my original stuff that I'm doing now. This is a super old tune I did looping though: ua-cam.com/video/25ne_8wuWsk/v-deo.html
Thanks man, best vid about loops I've seen so far. Been playing guitar for 20 years or so, wanna dive into loopers to busk in the streets, no clue whatsoever, but your smile and genuine atittude simply brought me the confidence I needed. Keep on rocking man
Aww thanks so much! This was a rad comment to get! Hope the busking and looping goes great for you!
Love tip 6, you'll hate it you won't want to do it, but, you have to if you want good timing.
40 yrs playing and just got a looper. You have the best approach to teaching the art on UA-cam.
Thank you
thank you appreciate the comment 🥰
I found this helpful in my search for help to get started live looping. Great tips that I’ll be referring back to. Thank you friend for your great attitude!!!
cool! Welcome to the fun world of looping! :)
I just got the boss rc1 so far I really like it
You have a natural stage presence so congrats on that. Your tips are useful indeed. I too practice standing and tapping my foot when grooving. It improves my playing a lot. Best regards
Thanks 😊 Awesome to hear it's helping you improve!
Great job!! I love your attention to detail
Just getting into looping and your video's are awesome. Thanks for sharing your knowledge David!
Thanks George! How's it going so far?
David!
I have been relentlessly searching UA-cam for a decent tutorial on timing loops correctly since purchasing my Boss 505mkII! So happy I was able to find this video as you break it down nice and simply. I was always doing the "tense - starting from downstoke 1" style you mentioned. Needless to say I was getting frusterated as my loops were rarely all-in-time (especially with 3-5 loops min per song at times). Thank you for this refreshing and upbeat tutorial its made a world of difference! Subscribing for more ; )
MOVING to the groove is such a great concept. I now sit, because as I play with a cajon player and want to be on same level. I still dance in my seat. I appreciate your POSITIVITY through all your vids and you are rare in that you are succinct and do not meander....that is so rare and refreshing on the youtube. I have learned also from years of playing a couple of things. 1) It is called PLAYING music so please don't yourself so seriously. I use a line from the great guitar player Glenn Campbell..."i know what your thinking, is there no beginning to this boys talent?". 2) Start your night off with lower volume than you think. You can always turn up.....I have never met a guitar player that ever turned down....both volume and gigs....it is possible to do both....just rare. 3) SLOW DOWN....both in performance and in song. I listen to the songs I do which get's a little tedious but I always find a tid bit in there somewhere. Too many times I have said, Hey why are they doing this song so slow? I also listen to songs to know the words so I do not stare at Ipad. If you sing Tom Petty wrong, people will sing the right words and their is always that guy that is gonna come up at break and bust your balls about how you sang TOM's words wrong except for the live version he did in a basement in Germany in 1984 which he has still has on cassette and before you know it your break is over and you did not get to quaff a pint or leave a pint..cheers
Thanks so much. Love the comment about it being called 'playing' music. That's gold!
@@davidshanhun Do I detect a Seinfeld fan? Well we wanna be in the Kenny Banya business.....Jerry the suspenders are a little hackash!
Great advice on volume. And Glen Campbell is a guitar god that no one realises.
David, you are an excellent teacher. and you present your work in such a way that is definitely seems like it is within reach for a new looper. it is funny, I have been playing guitar for 30 years, I own the RC3 (and an old RC30), but I have never really been able to get much out of them (until now, thanks to you). I also have the Boss Octave pedal that I was trying to give away (but no one wanted it), and you showed me how to make loops like a Bass with my guitar. Very cool. Thanks so much. I cannot explain why you don't have 250K subs!. it will come.
Mark
Mark! Thanks so much for this comment man! Appreciate it a lot :) Stoked that you are now getting good use out of your looper and having fun with the octave pedal too! 👌
Beautiful demonstration and helpful tips thank you 😊
Thanks Clair!
Great video. I got a looper about a year ago and the instructions that came with it were frustrating, and other videos never really addressed the timing of the start/stop. I had tried a couple of times, got frustrated and haven't used it since.
I am now re-inspired to try again. Thanks!
ah this is awesome! I hope you get to have some fun with it - takes a little bit (like anything) at the start to do the learning part, but hopefully this gets you through that phase so you can have fun with it! What looper are you using?
@@davidshanhun Boss RC-1
Nice work David. Very helpful. Thanks!
Thanks Jamie glad you found it useful! :)
Very helpful! Thank you David!
Thanks Audrey! Glad it was useful for you 😊
Very useful lesson! Thank you!
awesome!
I have learned way more from drummers than other guitar players about performance and groove! My favorite lesson of all time was when my drummer looked threw his kit and pointed his stick at me. "You Fing guitar players have 14 knobs on those amps and you only ever turn one and you ever only turn it one way...UP". I was guilty as charged!
yep. usually the best place to grow on groove is from the drummer 👌 so often overlooked!
I get my first loop pedal this week and will be watching and using these vids to get me going for sure. Its a Boss RC30. Great video tutorials you make. Cheers.
Awesome! The RC-30's are great pedals 👌Shout out if you get stuck on anything 😊
Thanks for the vids man, they have helped me a ton
ah that's awesome Jason makes me super happy to hear it!
Thank mate, it is helping a lot. By feeling the music it improved my loop starts a lot
Good video. Thanks. You make it look so easy. I’m struggling to get that seamless loop!! Will persevere, Your results are great. 👍
Cheers Simeon! I hope these ideas helped!
David Shanhun Have made some progress! Is it possible to put a microphone into the aux socket? Is that how you would add a vocal to a loop? Thanks
Definitely possible - what loop pedal are you using though?
David Shanhun A digitech Jam man. I’ve put a zoom mic through the aux. It works but I get massive Hendrix feedback!! Not good. Any ideas? Thanks 😊👍
are you running the jam man stereo? From memory that's the only one with an Aux input that I can recall. But if so then you'll have a mic input also... so I'm guessing one of the single pedal jam mans? hmmm. Is there any way of setting the lvl for the Aux (I'm guessing not). If not then you'd need to run your vocal into something first (to be able to set the mic level) and then into your loop pedal. It's not the ideal scenario, but depending on gear that you've got around you could at least get it to work!
ive just got a dittox4. its frustrating me a bit, the dreaded pause, but these tips are going to help, i need to relax more with it. thank you, your cute and smiley, hope all is well x
aww thanks Sophia! As you relax into it your loops will become more and more natural 😊 Happy practising!
Most useful looping tutorial. Ever. The internet can shut down.
aww shucks... 😝
This video is great man! I’ve got to ask. I can hear my last beat and first beat start and stop if that makes sense . Like when the first beat comes back in you can tell it’s a loop . What am I doing wrong ? When do you press stop? After the 4th beat ?
Hey Matt! I would try starting your loop on the beat as you strum down on the first chord. the more specific you can make the point when you click the start of the loop the better. Then when you click to finish the loop make it on that exact same down strum. Even better click the loop on exactly as you hit the bass string on that first down strum, then click it off exactly as you hit the bass string on that first down strum when it comes around again. Let me know how you go trying this and we can chat if you still get stuck :)
David Shanhun perfect mate thanks so much for this detailed helpful tip! Will give it a go and let you know how I go 🤘🏻
@@immattbailey hope it helps and yes pls let me know! 😊
Excellent! Few vids on this topic I watched before yours failed in comparison, yours is the most effective! And tip 5 😂 that's so me...thanks to you I now know what to do 👍 Cheers from South Africa
Awesome! haha yep - you got this! 💪
great tips, buddy.
Thankyou 👌
Thanks!
Most welcome!
Great stuff, thanks!
Thanks Loni! 😊
Well done! Very helpful
Thanks Mark! Glad it was useful!
Thank You! Very helpful!!! Awesome!
Thanks Max!
Very much appreciate these tips! :) Thank you for your time and efforts! :)
You're welcome! Glad they're useful!
well thought out....thanks!
cheers!
Thank you, going to dig out my Boss RC3 and maybe this time it will get the use it deserves :) David
nice! Let me know how you go getting back into it!
Thanks for sharing your talent and knowledge and helping others improve. Question, are you trying to catch the first note on the strong beat at the beginning tap or the end tap?? Seems like you are trying to tap the looper just before the first beat and tap it just before the first note to end the loop? That right?
I finally got it down first try after watching this video, this is great thanks!
so happy to hear this! Congrats! 😊
Hats off to your continued tutoring. I do in fact, ( and posted on another of your videos) have trouble with initial loop synchronisation. Beat so far just off so I guess i just need to keep plugging away. Thanks so much.
Also my volume seems too low on playback. Is there internal volume control? I did see your tip about decay already. 🤠
hey Mark - what loop pedal are you using? Also.. what setting are you practising looping in - is it at home with an acoustic guitar? ...often if the volume is low on an amp in an 'at home' practise type setting or a super small gig, it appears the volume is a lot lower on the loop because we're then only hearing the amp and not the natural volume of the acoustic in the room. (might not be what's happening but is quite common!) Let me know though!
@@davidshanhun im using VL3. Once i record loop playback volume is lower than guitar as both are played through amp. Amp is small Roland street cube
Thanks for responding🤠
Nice tips! Metronome is the key element, YES! My drum teacher told me to have imaginary 16th notes metronoming in my head (or even 32s) to help keep in time better...no matter what I was playing on the drums. I only kept playing drums for 2 years but that was because I couldnt have a drumset at home :/ Im a guitarist singersongwriter now, 30 years later, and exploring the looping too
metronome practise is super handy (and annoying too haha!). Cool that you're a guitarist singer/songwriter now as well!
Thank You
nice, thanks a lot
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thanks!
you're welcome! 😊
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welcome!
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welcome! :)
Great vid man, thanks. I can't place it but I reckon I've seen you before? Maybe busking in Browns Bay on a Saturday morning? I thought you were great btw, cheers.
Hey Phil, yep quite likely - I live in Browns Bay and been down a few times for a lil busk session ay :) Might even shoot out today and have a sing while it's nice and sunny!
I have a boomerang looper midi linked to a beat buddy and some of my songs have 4 parts allows tons of texture and the ability to change at will 😎
awesome! curious how you find the pedals of the boomerang?
David! How do you learn and be able to put bass lines over your chords?? Thanks
heya! I usually just learn the original bass line from the song I'm playing as the first step - searching 'bass lesson' and then the song you're playing on youtube is a great starting point (some are more accurate than others of course!)
Great video, great tips! Your guitar also sounds really nice, which model is it?
it's a Takamine ND-15C. quite old now!
You say ro use a metronome. I have a korg mini drum machine and a boss dd8 delay. Never used the looper on the DD8 but now realise how much I should use it to practise. Anyway, I assume the drum machine would be better than a metronome wouldn't it? I tried the loop function tonight for the first time and I kept getting those pauses in my recording and just couldn't get a recently timed loop happening. Will practise with these tips tomoz. Thanks!
heya! Absolutely - great to play and practise with a drum machine and much more fun than a metronome! Have fun getting started with the loop function on the delay!
What's the reason for the split cord coming from the guitar jack?
it's a cord that ships with the Voicelive 3 and includes the headphone in/out
It helped 🙏
awesome!
David, Excellent lesson -- you move just fine. GREAT POINT -- sway, shake, bounce -- whatever -- MOVE! It's called PLAYING music, not WORKING music.
Hi David. I have a question. I use the RC30 looper and if I loop a couple of bars of a drumbeat/groove then I'm stuck with those two bars and can't record anything longer. At 4:35 you loop a short groove and then record a longer chord section on top of it. Is that particular to the looper you're using? Is it just the RC30 that won't allow me to do that or am i missing something? Thanks for the great tutorials. They've been really helpful. Loops are most definitely NOT the death of music.
TBC i'm using both channels on the RC30. If one has a groove over 4 bars then i can't record anything longer than 4 bars on either track.
Great question mate and yes, it is specific to the RC30 that you need to make them all the same length. I'm using a TC Helicon Voicelive 3, but if you want the equivalent pedal to the RC30 which allows you to have separate length tracks (that still sync together) then grab the ditto x4 - amzn.to/2RDVkTc . The ditto has become my backup looper.
yes - I understand. I have a mate with the RC30, and he's simply gotten used to it having everything at one length. Personally I find it SUPER handy being able to loop one channel as a one bar groove and it saves a lot of time if you want to overdub little bits into your groove as you play later on. But my buddy is a professional muso with a great sound and set up using the exact pedal you have for his loop work so just gotta go with what works for you!
Thanks so much for the replies David. Helped a great deal. I only just got the RC30 but i'm having a lot of fun with it and enjoying finding ways and songs to make it work in my set. It'll get me used to looping and I'll get another, like you described, further down the line. Thanks again. Your tutorials are a goldmine. @@davidshanhun
Oh and one more thing, do you have any tips/tricks for helping to bring a musical loop in at the right place? For example, if i record a beat/groove on one track and then a musical theme on the other track that is only used in the chorus then that theme is 'tied' to the place in the groove and, depending on where i am in the groove when the chorus comes round dictates when the theme starts. Do you know what i mean? The RC30 light goes red at the start of EVERY bar so it doesn't help. It's straightforward enough for songs like Free Falling but for more complex songs it can really trip me up.
Hi there David, my looper will be arriving tomorrow and while I've been waiting for it to be delivered, Ive been watching your tutorials just to familiarize myself with any concepts that might not be obvious when using a looper. Your tutorials have been brilliant, thank you for that. One idea that i am still unsure about is, say you record one measure of just some percussive rhythm first like you suggest. Would you then be able to loop, for example, a 4 measure progression over that? or would the over dub have to be the exact same length as the base loop? This would be using a single loop pedal such as the ditto.
Thanks so much! Markus
Hey Markus! Yay that your looper arrives tomorrow and I'm glad these tutorials have been useful so far! With the ditto (the one pedal version), you would need to record the same length for each loop over top of each other - so I would start with your chord progression first in most cases, and then add in the groove/bass/extra parts. Otherwise you can add in 4 measures of a groove or beat, then loop your 4 measure chord progression to go with it. I have a friend that does that and it works great, just means you have to be a little bit tighter with your timing (if you speed up or slow down over those 4 measures it can be more noticeable). Feel free to message any time if you have questions or think I can help! Happy experimenting!
@@davidshanhun Great thank you so so much for your response Sir. Keep making brilliant content
@@markusmulholland you're welcome and thanks!
Hi David
I learn a lot from your videos they are awesome and you are a great musician / teacher …
How do you make the choice between doing the grove first and then the. Chord progression or vice versa. What difference does it make.
How do you decide the structure of how you will loop the song and what different ways are possible ?
To address the issue of changing the bar length later what options one has in terms of using different loopers etc
Lots of questions but I am guessing you have heard them many times before and you are the only one that can answer these
Great work buddy. Keep growing in your craft
If starting with a beat it’s important to record the number of bars required for the chord progression- or you get caught short!
Or you can just record one bar and still record as many bars as you want for other tracks also. Depends on your loop pedal and how you want to do things 👌
How could I have a clean loop and play with distortion without distorting the loop?
Put all of your effects in the chain before the loop pedal. ☺️
@@davidshanhun that makes a lot of sense. I have a fender amp with built in effects. I’ll get my mini Timmy
Ah true that! Enjoy!
hey! what guitar strap is that?
I have the blue and the red from this combo - www.fishpond.co.nz/Toys/Joe-Satriani-Nylon-Guitar-Strap-DAddario-Planet-Waves/9999053456014
Im looking to use loops on just on small parts of songs where it requires more than 1 guitar
nice :)
You'll have to plan out when you record it. Hopefully the chord progression for the part where you want more than one guitar exists earlier in the song. Tap in to record it then.
I've run into this with a solo that plays over the verse chords. So, for example, the first time through on the verse tap the record button and capture it. Then you can let it play under the second verse and make sure you got a good recording. Then you can stop it and probably go into a chorus. Then when that solo part comes up tap to play the loop and then you can solo over it.
What device are you using? looks very sophisticated.
Using a TC Helicon Voicelive 3. It's a great pedal, although took a while to get used to and learn how to use!
Hi i have a boss RC-2 looper and i am abit lost about what is the phrase and what you call a channel, can you help pls. This would solve my problem of having songs with 2 or 3 different parts to loop
Hi Clency, with the Boss RC-2 you only have one channel, but you can overdub as many phrases as you wish on top of it. So you can record your main phrase and this will play the whole time, and then you can only add extra parts to this phrase with your current loop pedal. Hope this helps!
@@davidshanhun thanks david
David, Help me out here please... I just bought the voicelive 3 extreme (same menu as your vl3) how do I change it so Only the guitar is in the loop and not the mic? I can't seem to find that option. Thank you!
heya, go to your loop screen and hit 'util' and then 'input'. this video (at the timestamp) will walk you through it - ua-cam.com/video/Z84Ru0kKM4Y/v-deo.html
also, remember to hit 'save' after you change this if you want it to stay set to just guitar when you turn the unit off and on again.
Thank you! I will go do that within the hour. You rock bud!
All good! Happy to help 😊
I think I know the answer here but... Is there a setting to have guitar and aux loop but not the vocal mic? Would save the tap dancing to switch inputs. I am not looping my vocal. like, ever.
Pretty good! Thank you! Set free and enjoy our music! Hello from Brazil!
Thanks Jairo! :) I would LOOVE to come to Brazil some day!
How do u record and mix this video?
I use a Zoom H4n pro recording device for most things - amzn.to/2CyIOOP. For this video I had it a bit far away so tried to edit the extra noise out (which is why it sounds a bit odd in some places). Buuut... to answer your question, I had my guitar (from the loop pedal) go into one channel on the H4n, then the vocal into a separate channel, and then it has two condensor mic's which picked up me talking in the room. Have a few friends that use different zoom recorders kinda like this - there's plenty of options. Hope that helps!
Wow. Thats awesome man. Maybe you should do a video about this! ;)
We change to Ableton Live. No limits, an handfree (footfree) looping
How do you find it overall? Good points/bad points?
It‘s a hell of work to program ableton and get all automations and Midi orders right. But for performing live it‘s a lot easier and you can really focus on playing. I think its a huge benefit for your live playing
Numero 4 is my weakness maybe I should stand and not use my bass pedals which restrict me to sitting
Practicic9ng with drum loops can be a bit more useful
yes! good call also 👌
The audio of the speech is TERRIBLE.
I agree. it's awful. Sadly it was all I ended up with due to issues on the day. learnt a lot since then!
Loops are the death of music.
haha just another evolvement I reckon haha. Curious if you have listened to my original material or not before writing this comment. Just out of curiosity! :) Hope you're having a great day!
lol You are too, too polite! I'm sure your loops are great, and all music is good, even loops!
lol all good! :) It's definitely changed many forms of music though!
I use a lotta loops. Mostly drums, but these loopers tend to make everything sound the same. Do you have a song where you use it to good effect? I was looking at your channel and I couldn't see anything obviously loopy.
I actually don't have much on my channel where I use it... might be time to do some updating, and not much on my channel where I loop with my original stuff that I'm doing now. This is a super old tune I did looping though: ua-cam.com/video/25ne_8wuWsk/v-deo.html