2017 Honda Civic Type R - (Track) One Take
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- This video was shot at the #GRIDLIFE Motorsports and Music Festival South from Road Atlanta! For more information about #GRIDLIFE events check out www.grid.life
The all new 2017 Honda Civic Type R is the fastest front-drive Honda ever, with a turbocharged 2.0L engine making 306 HP to the front wheels. It has a track-spec suspension, six-speed manual transmission, aerodynamic improvements, bucket seats, and trim pieces to help the Type R stand out from more pedestrian Civic's.
Test notes:
1) The heat had to be run on full blast during the entire duration of this video to prevent overheating
2) A full tank of fuel lasts 16 laps around Road Atlanta
3) Matt's fastest lap was a 1:45.3
4) In the introduction, Matt incorrectly referred to this car as a 2007; it's obviously supposed to be 2017.
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Honda of North America provided the vehicle, insurance, and a tank of fuel for this review.
Matt your ability to drive and talk at the same time without screwing either thing up still astounds me. I think you coined a new term today: "road mannerisms". Thanks for the great vid.
oinka720 he was cruising by his standard i guess
@@chung729chung because he can run his pump better than he can drive for sure I wouldn't let this fool ride my bike
Ballsy pass at 9:15. Very nice. I almost broke a sweat.
chad jaeckel
3- wide?? No problem.
just came to see matts head in that goofy helmet
Jimmy Jay His head in a goofy helmet or his goofy head in a helmet?
He's wearing a helmet? Huh...oh yeah now I see it.
I think Matt may have a stolen helmet, it kinda looks like he just snapped off the antenna's and painted it black. the helmet may have been owned by another alien driver, The Great Gazoo! ;D
Looks like his normal head
This comment is what the comment section is for
"A medium amount of balls" on the Farah Scale
Joe Black It's in-between small and large amount of balls.
That’s when a car feels quick on the street but you have time to think about what you’re gonna eat for dinner while going down the back straight at Road Atlanta
But are they dry? :D
Better poweder them
TheSmokingTire Haha, that's the best thing I read all day so far. I like the way you put it. I take it that in a Z06 you only have time to think about what condiment you want in your hot dog?
First off Matt, great driving, I never knew you were such a competent driver.
Great honest review.
If I was a betting man, I'd bet that Matt secretly wishes he owned a Type R rather than his Focus RS.
I owned an RS for about 1 year, and he is right on, the RS suspension beats the crap out of you every time you drive it, and that's the reason I got rid of it.
I had an extensive test drive in the Type R and could not believe how comfortable the ride was, very compliant soaking up the bumps without beating the crap out of you and loosening your fillings.
The Type R also turned in better and had better handling overall than the RS.
It's so good on the street. I popped to the supermarket this morning. I had the radio on, pootled along, super comfy in the default R. The clutch is light but has the right amount of feedback. The shift light will have you in 5th at about 40 miles an hour. It's just great.
Then you want to track it and it's fast. The grip in corners embarrasses faster cars. It's stable but will rotate when you want. The brakes are great. It's a hot lap marvel.
For the money it wrecks the competition. Cars like the RS3 have a gorgeous interior and way more power which will thrash the Type R on straights, but the Type R will gain back time in the corners. The lap times are far to close for this to be considered anything other than a triumph.
Ooo, I've posted twice. It's literally that good :)
One of the better track one takes I've seen.
9:14 when the AI is on easy
hotwire96 VTEC kicked in.
But yeah, that's definitely AI easy mode, lol.
hotwire96 Lmao Yea
hotwire96 get your eyes checked
SI RICKO lol what do you mean by that
😂😂😂
I have to say this cuz it's actually starting to bother me that so many people complain about the looks of this car... Is it bad that I actually love the way this car looks?!?! I'm in my 30's married with 2 kids. I own a V8 challenger and I'm thinking about making this my next car to buy. I've always had a thing for hatchback performers. Did I mention that I LOVE the way this car looks???
@Soario...hey i am with you. I saw this car in person at the central florida auto show and really like the styling and i am 44. This will be my next car as well but in champion white.
Soario7 yeah it’s bad when you can say the ford rs looks more like a civic then this type r which looks more like a cheesy wrx with to many busy lines going on
Man I’m feeling the same way, married 34 and 2 kids. I have a 92 300ZX TT, this type r will be in my garage at some point!
I still like it
Sounds like a great upgrade compared to the Dodge. The Honda should last a lot longer and save you money on maintenance. And the type R will hold its value much much better than other Hondas. And, it will likely be the target of theft so might want to think about that as well. Consider an upgraded alarm and lojack.
Matt - the guy to run a type-r at the limit on track, in traffic and maintain a coherent review of a new car. I loved this.
I just got my blue type r and I am so happy is unbelievable how I feel and this video makes me way more happy 😃 thank you Matt
I love driving this car and can't imagine the smile i would have if i got to drive it on this track. Every time i drive it i just want to see what i can do and you can never do that on the streets without the fear of a cop being around the corner or waiting for you somewhere.
I have never been a Honda fan, never have never will. But I do have to give them props for what they have made here - a proper hot hatch after so many years of luke-warm offerings. Well done Honda.
LOL a FWD family hatch lapping S2Ks and E46 M3s. FWD haters eat your words.
When Honda really go at it, they come out with some crazy machines. This is one of them.
FWD Every all day... Rice and beans for me!
Honda fanboy here, I think the exterior is the most HIDEOUS Civic yet but I'd still own one. Thankfully the interior is quite nice.
ldisc66 if the exterior makes it faster because of aerodynamics, how you call it ugly? If it performance is better how is that not a beauty? That uglyness is what I love about Honda... I use to hate Honda so much... And now even if I became a billionaire I would own 1... 1 stock. 1 super modded
Shit I'll own every single one. NSX, s2k, a fit, a CR-V super tuned (spooned) and Civic.. definitely a Civic type R... Super tuned carbon fiber everywhere and make it RR edition as well! 🦄
I never thought a factory Civic would be faster than a first gen NSX. We've come a long way.
Now if only Matt could get his hands on the entire Type-R/R range of Honda. That'd be extra epic!
Nice review as always
iLupi he just needs to buy a bag of rice.
Matt did a drive of the Integra Type-R when he was back East, in NJ. That thing sung beautifully.
Samuel Bowman Oh hey that's an original joke. It makes so much sense too. Buy bag of rice = driving the entire type-r range HA HA HA HA HA lmao dude good one
Hondas are neat little cars to have se fun on, not extremely expensive, reliable and can use every day.
I am glad you enjoyed that car. The Honda Civic Type R is one of the best FWD cars great for daily driving and track day.
Engine cover looks like the generator I have in the garage
no one keeps those covers on bruh
lol just went in my garage and saw a type-r engine as well
I wonder if the valve cover underneath is plastic, hence the cover?
was thinking the same thing lol
Probably the same thing, just without the turbo.
At 9:28 That was a badass pass by Matt. Dude is such a good driver. Love these videos
I've been waiting for this. Never clicked a vid so fast.
Weed4daSoul hahaha I did the same like didn't even blink once before I pressed 😅
Lol it's just a Honda tho
Go watch regular car reviews for this car
Honda fanboys smiling this morning Matt 🙏🏼
yuppp
Go past that s2k! S2k! S2k!!!!!!!!
It's actually really fast around the track compared to other cars in it's class, even against the sti, golf r and focus rs.
MrZyLeXx
yes but it's hideous and doesn't offer the practicality of awd
Yeah that's the biggest problem with it and that they just took the front of the sti and added a honda badge. AWD is huge where i live.
Psh fuck that AWD bullshit. You can convert it you Know that right? Have you seen a honda Civic AWD kick Subaru ass in rally racing? It's a real thing... And I as a big Honda fan prefer Fwd any day. Pros n cons to everything.... I love it when I look behind the mirror and smoke them with fwd... There faces 😳
Thankfully, looks are subjective. And how often do you use the "practicality" of AWD? I basically never find myself in a position where I need it. Then again, I've honestly never owned an AWD car.
William Bellis III obviously you don't live anywhere with bad weather.
Matt from the Future. Reviewing a Honda Civic Type R in 2007 :3
Thanks Matt for your review of the Type R Civic. I was debating between the Type R and the RS. I'm gonna go with the Type R. Great review Matt, best so far for the new Civic Type R.
It was awesome running into Matt on the paddock earlier in the day. Thanks for stopping to talk! You can see me and my friend posted up at 2:34 on the hill before the crowds went that far back. Can't wait for another Gridlife South next year, the last two were 10/10.
Great review. I'm a fan of the newer Type-r. I really appreciate all the engineering that went into this one. I think it looks great and would love to drive one one day
Bought my dream Honda 2018 civic type-r in black with 19” rims on 285 section rubber. I am in love with this drivers car! Thanks Matt an Zac for inspiration to get the driving experience I wanted.
R’s have been always a drivers car. Nimble, three wheeling into corners. Love it
Three wheeling! Haha. Comment reminds me of people autocrossing early 80's accords and lifting the inside rear wheel several inches off the ground. Those cars seemed to dance around the course on three wheels.
The body lines, all 417 of them, are distracting.
If you care how it drives, you wouldn't be concerned about how it looks. All you sissy nannies who want mustangs with live rear axles "because they looks cool, and i can do a burnout"
I think J Smith just wants a car that doesn't look like a Matchbox racer.
You read a lot of your own bias into that rubbiebubble. J Smith made no mention of the driving characteristics. Now my comment is that no matter how nice it drives, a car has to appeal to me aesthetically also, and this one is just scary ugly imo. But I have no doubt it's a blast to drive. It seems to have nice balance in a world where everything is oversprung and wants to be an M car wannabe.
Kudos Honda tech team, not so much style department.
Yeah, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The body lines are amazing to me. See how that works?
rubbiebubbie well mustangs don’t have tear live axels anymore so that argument is invalid
Car looks wonky, but strangely still appeals to me.
Just like women
In 20 years this will look very subtle. Just like the wild cars from the late 90’s look now
Yup
@Michael Davis Same here. When you see it on screen you mostly think "this car looks weird/ugly". But seeing in person is really different. I guess it has to do with seeing the car among the others on the road, it just stands out; something we don't see from most other car companies today, everything looks the same...
Killing it in the Type R. I much prefer these track one takes with traffic.
Thanks Matt... best review of the Civic Type R I have seen yet. I will keep this on my radar. In two years I will trade up from my Fiesta ST... but just not sure what yet.
FalconXE302 Just test drove a Type R. It was so much fun!
Go honda they tend not to go back to the workshop unless for a service or wear n tare parts lol!
Here, here. Agreed.
I watched this video last night around 11:00 pm. After watching I hopped in my 18 Si and went and hit the twisties. It’s not a Type R but in the best out of the box Honda I’ve owned.
I don't get why your track one takes don't do as well. They are awesome!
EatMyAK I think it’s cause most car enthusiasts don’t actually like driving as much as they like the idea of cars
I'm on my 3rd wrx and have NO plans of switching to Civic, But I appreciate the Type R more then many other sports compacts for some reason and the Ride is great. It does seem more matured, and evolved. Great video man.
Thanks Matt for the great Vid.
10:20 "I got your S200 right here' . Hillarious!
6:10 solid description of the Type R handling characteristics. The back end gets very lively when hard braking and trail braking , but I think that liveliness is what allows it to change direction so quickly. Unlike most FWD cars the back end of this car can come out. It has more oversteer tendencies than my rwd 300zx did.
I think this video convinced me to go with the Type-R over a RS. Great driving sir!
Good thing you did, RS’ were discontinued because of factory defect 😂.
@@PR1NCETD0T what defects
@@lollol-xp4mc small peen
As an automotive journalist I got to drive this car at a track Press day at Monticello and loved it, I would go buy one tomorrow if I had the space. I will have a reviewed posted on my channel soon
2007 WAS A GREAT YEAR...GOOD JOB MATT😂
I really like this video. Felt more like a review/thoughts on the car the whole time. Kept me watching!
This car is just so fucking NICE
love these track videos!!!! Do more of them!!!
I would prefer 18 or 19 as the horrible roads in NY would surely ruin a lot of tires. They would be cheaper to replace if I got a bubble in the sidewall.
MBisFrenchy make sure you buy tire and wheel protection...
StevenSVT Just ordered two fronts tires this week actually for a friend and suggested it for them. Have you ever used any third party one that you could recommend?
MBisFrenchy I'm a service advisor for Cadillac. For our cars, we sale safeguard tire and wheel protection. They're the best so far... but really, I've done claims with other warranty companies and they cover, so no preference, really.
MBisFrenchy just remember, these extended warranty companies only warranty tires if you at least have 4/32 seconds left of tire tread. They don't cover if you hit a curb or if your tire is below tread depth
StevenSVT Thank You! In their case the tires were PSS tires with a lot of tread left. At the shop they said they would do only two tires at a time since it was a sports cars. Any truth to this?
Very late to this party; but excellent driving on your part Sir Matt. Going to do an HPDE event this weekend; so your track line was much appreciated (and better I may add than the videos provided in my opinion).
This car is a very capable beast. Would love to find one of these in 2023.
Matt your audio isn't even bad with the window down. In fact I much prefer it when you do have the window down so I can hear the engine.
Matt this was a great vid!!! Really had me smiling the whole way through. That stock Type R was giving the business end of it tail pipes to some other cars that seemed a bit track prepared.
Gonna be honest. I like the look. Reminds me up the EK9 in the rear. Is it the best looking civic? Nope (em1 forever) but in today's world it's alright in my eyes.
Great to see Matt overtaking some cars than getting stuck behind them :)
"Welcome to Road Atlanta."
LIKE.
Dude Matt..........You are a beast......... excellent driving. I did not think the brakes would last that long on the track but your smooth driving paid off.
Honda continues to upsize the civic we need it to come back down in size it looks like an accord now
You could of taken that ZO6 Matt if this was a tighter track but those long straights needs more HP! But your driving skills are killing it on the track good work! 👍🏽 another good video
12:52 that boxer rumble in front of you tho!
sounds like a wet fart
Your commentary is quite informative. The Integra Gen 1 B18C engine with turbo added is also a great combination. A car that revs to 10,000 rpm and pulls from 3500 rpm to 10,000 without any hesitation. On 30 psi it burns all the way to the top of 4th. With a T88 Turbbo and good fuel it achieves an easy and reliable 650 WHP driven daily with AC. Add a set of H&R coilovers with Bilstein, and a set of Brembos up front and it stops on a dime. This combination of suspension and brakes redefines the term "handles like it's on rails"
It is definitely faster than Focus RS in corners, tracks. In public roads RS will look faster due to the acceleration and it sounds better. If I had to choose, Type R for sure. Unlike some other haters the look has grown on me and it look wicked. I love it.
This has to be the first smokingtire video I’ve watched completely glued
The car is so quiet like you don't even hear the engine at all
Beavey hell yeah that's what I dreamed about... Ninja quite...
Turbo engines are quiet
Probably couldn't hear the engine because Matt was speaking louder to try to overcome the wind noise as the drivers window was open
it's a directional lavalier mic; they are meant to soften outside noise as much as possible.
nighthawk0077 wrx turbos loud as fuck bruh
You did an admirable job track driving while speaking in this video.
7:22 that X1/9 tho
so cool
Joe Black definitively looks like it!
Favorite part of this whole video lol I really love what Honda did here bringing forced induction to their line up. But for $35k...nahhh
Got to see one of these in Sydney. It's...quite imposing in person. Those guys at Honda are madmen!
Did Matt say 2007 Type R?
yup lol
Special edition
corrected his mistake straight away on the next shot
no shit.
Lol
Dude just inspired me to get back on my exercise program. Fantastic, gut wrenching review. Dude didn’t even break a sweat! Nice job, brah.
Great review Matt.... yeah , got one of these rice burners and its a daily!
I'm sure you've traded it in by now... Where I'd keep it FOREVER
I might have already said this, but the UK model (not sure about the US one) has an anti-stall feature. You can just take your foot off the clutch and brake and it will pootle onwards :) This is what amazes me. I'd take the Type-R over an RS any day. Most of my driving is done on normal roads. I carried 2.5m of lumber home in mine. You put people in it and it's comfy, and then you push on through the back roads and suddenly it's this monster of grip and pace.
Nothing like a Costco muffin and Matt driving a Honda for breakfast!
It’s about time! Watching it now!
the type r isn't a jdm only thing because we got them in Europe aswell
OEM Asian well, for American, there are two countries in the world, USA, and not-usa.
There are 3 in my city just 20min out of montreal,i raced a white one with great results :) i can say there is nothing to freak out about,it was stock and brand new but still mine makes less then 230whp and is still NA stock engine hahahaha
The first generation EK9 (1997-2000) was JDM only.
Ironically, the Civic Type R is made in England.
Wasn't that the ep3?
It looks so so ridiculous and over styled and I love it
Fckn awesome one take Matt!!! Now go smoke the two robs!! My $ is on you pal. Get it! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Dizzy labs Matt is just a better driver, and I think that will come to matter
i thought the same, but they aren't driving, Justin Bell gonna drive, so it doesn't matter
Thats probably the best track video I've ever seen. Well done
Medium amount of balls for $35k is pretty good.
Andrew Cox they haven't left dealers for less then 55k and if you pay 55k for a civic when you can get a used NSX for that price your an idiot hell a used viper .
People are way too set to buy this car if they are actually paying that.
There are a bunch that have been sold at MSRP.
Tyler Hunt I just looked it up and there have been some sold at MSRP, which makes the fact that a lot of people are paying the mark up very stupid.
Oh for sure it's stupid. I'm mostly replying to brandon who's been spamming that shit on half the comment chains.
One of the best track videos I've seen .
Ahhhhhh, finally the type R ☝️ take
The demand alone shows that Type R cars are in high demand here in the USA. I for one would like to see an Accord Type R come here as I would love a big 4 door car with the sporty looks and power:) All I can do is wish for now!
10:58 - Except for the fact that the fastest time a Focus RS has managed around the Nurburgring is 8:06.29 and the Type R did it in 7:43.8 It's not "just about as fast", it's MUCH faster.
Watching it blast all those other cars was a pretty good advertisement
i would still put it on 19", 20 is just to big for a civic
FeelsBadMan Alot of hondas and acuras are starting to get 20's. The new accord gets them if you get the 2.0t.
i know, but i would still put it on 19" even Matt said it would be better on 18" but i think 19" would be a good balance between funktion and form
18's but I'd keep um clean.
I would put it on "15s, like back in the old days.
Mel Laknanurak lol the brembos wont clear on 15s...
God I hope this car sells really well in the US market. We need Honda and other markets to know we still want manual sports cars.
9:10 Like a BOSS
Matt knows Honda’s are the building block of his views
I own a fiesta st mainly because I watched your review I gave it a try and bought it, lately I've been contemplating into buying an rs, but I've been watching your videos and seems to me your not to enamored with the rs, as you where with the st, is that a true statement and if so would you recommend buying the type r instead? Like your reviews have a great one.
The Civic Type R is best at home on the track or a winding road. It isn't pretty to look at, but the engineering behind it (and stability for a FWD sports car) is worth admiring.
You said it overheated quickly on the track during your podcast. No mention of it in the video, what's up?
In the video, I had the windows down and it was super hot outside, so I forgot to mention that I had to have the heater on full crank to keep the needle out of the red during the entire video. In a later session, I had to run with the windows up, and I still needed to have the heater cranked, so it was like 150 degrees in the car and I felt like I was going to pass out.
So you were playing "Car Sauna" in a moving Type R.
Type R isnt a JDM only thing, the UK has had them for nearly 2 decades. The EP3 Type R was even built exclusively in the UK, in Surrey.
LIsten to that s2000 :D:D
o ya
I miss my s2000 waaaaaah!!!!!!
Looks like the type r was killing it out there! Good job honda
in singapore it costs almost 200K. for this..
Ek Seng Ng 😆 GTFO! How much would an Aventador cost there?! That’s so sad.
NismoFinder aventador cost about 700k-1mil depending on the spec
kinda like china tax huh
In was in Singapore not too long ago. Was an experience. I loved how clean the roads were, lol. Oh, and the grilled stingray was delicious.
Mario Munoz yea..nice place to look at..hard to survive in
I’ve always liked how the people who criticize this car call it rice while completely ignoring the performance, and focusing only on aesthetics. Ignoring performance like this and calling functional design ugly makes you a ricer.
CONFIRMED YOU LOVE HONDAS
More videos like this, I think this was one of the best you ever did, good work.
Any gear grind?
rpiian not for me
its a brand new car..
Dylan Marteen Go watch savagegeese’s Type R gear grind vid. ua-cam.com/video/5v_j9Ct2jrQ/v-deo.html
TheSmokingTire Good to hear - thanks Matt!
Sounds like gear grind at 10:10
I would love for Grid Life to have a north east event at Watkins Glen. Its almost a no brainer Watkins Glen has plenty of space for owners to camp since the majority of the NASCAR attendance camps there. The track just got repaved and facilities updates a couple years ago and the natural terrain of the road course its self makes for fantastic event for drivers. I'm sure it would draw in people from Canada, Ohio and all of New England that would like to attend.
On the podcast you mentioned it overheating, was that at this track?
malkionx yes, see the “test notes” in video description. This entire video I had the heater on full crank to keep it from over heating. On a later session in the weekend, i has to drive with windows up and it was horrible
TheSmokingTire awesome thanks for the reply, was wondering if you suffered any of the 1st to second grinds some owners have shown with early cars?, even savage geese here on UA-cam had it happen during his review.
malkionx no, although in this whole video you only saw me use 3rd, 4th and 5th. No 2nd or first here.
The issue did not come up on the street drive.
TheSmokingTire okay thanks for your insight keep up the awesome work!
so mad that i went to vegas when gridlife came to atl.
No matter how you rice (slice) it, the Civic is a heck of a nice car for $35k.
Taco Pro again people your idiots read the Honda reports they haven't left dealer lots for less then 55k due to dealer mark ups
Lot's have been sold for MSRP.
brandon wright this comment is irrelevant now. Many are sold near or at msrp.
I really enjoyed the video and the track session. I thought it really showed the capabilities of the new Civic type R. Loved the commentary. Well made video. 👍👍👍👍👍
I agree 20's on that just doesnt sit well imo, i think 17's is enough to clear the brakes and the thicker sidewall would make it more comfortable
Trouble is the latest sports tyres are often not available in anything under 19" anymore. The OEM tyre, ContiSportContact 6, and the Pilot Super Sport replacement, Pilot Sport 4S, only come in 19" and above IIRC.
TassieLorenzo wrong, there is 18inch size appropriate for type r for the michelin pilot sport 4s, i didnt find it in the appropriate 17 inch size though
Thats visually the best track video on that beautiful course. Thanks.
Matt you know the type r is way better on dry track!
Watched a few of your videos now and they are great. I really need to get my Type R to the track. Watching this was so much fun.