Is Star Wars: The Old Republic WORTH IT In 2024?!
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- Опубліковано 2 тра 2024
- Star Wars: The Old Republic has been around for over a decade and has seen plenty of updates, expansions, and even a change of the guard. All these years later, is this story focused MMORPG worth your time?
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This was the only MMO I've ever gotten into, and I haven't played it in about 11 years. This actually made me kinda want to jump in and see some of the stories I didn't get to back then
holy s**t u just made me realise how old i am cuz im the exact same i checked in again a few years ago but its defo been at least 10 years since i got rly into this game, no other mmos have rly interested me tbf
you should, i just returned few months ago since they reopen the APAC server and lots of the game mechanics changes
besides, you can even keep class story with different factions skills though@@iagosplace
Same bro. I played this 8 hours a day at least when I was in college. And then Disney happened and star wars was never the same. I had hands down the best home in swtor. I made an arena in my house, villages, everything. Then an update erased it all and I came back to my senses
Played it at launch - I’ve just gotten back into it for the solo mode. It stands up to time - and I’ve forgotten the story. So it’s a brand new game. Lol
For a moment there I thought it was kotor… but it was missing the KO
We all know the answer to that one ;)
I've never seen people refer to KOTOR as "SWKOTOR"
As someone with over 20k hrs in this Game.. i feel this Video.. i Loved the Challenge.. but i havent touched it since 2-3 years.. Most of my old Buddies left due to the streamlining too . I come Back now for once a month.. and Just stare Out a window of our old guild ship.. as the Last member online..
Just so you know, if you click the PVE button at the bottom right of the screen, you can change the difficulty of PVE
Bros whole sex life was determined by swtor and you have to respect that
Poor guy, when they release KOTOR remake or 8.0 he’s gonna be broken up with again lol
Small correction: Those small missions are still in game. You just have to open the map and enable their filter.
Yeah I read that. That’s why I always look at every menu when I start playing a new game.
You should also add that there’s a difficulty option under the mini-map, it’s automatically set at the easiest difficulty
@LordFinai There’s a WHAT!?
@@hahaha4556 I found it on accident, as far as I’m aware the game never tells you about it. Specifically it’s in the bottom right of the UI, you click PVE and it gives you the option to change the difficulty of NPC enemies.
i absolutely looooove the direction you guys have taken this channel, alongside retro rewind. i was thinking about how matty could maintain a semblance of normal life while doing more, and more content. having lock lead the charge on more videos & production was a big brain move. lock has really proven himself behind, and in front of the camera, and has made himself undeniable. the newer thumbnails are killer as well!
excellent work gents. thank you & cheers 🖤
Love that Matty is letting Lockmort do videos on this channel, have really enjoyed the few Summon Sign episodes that Brad has had him as a guest for
Great video Lock! I logged so many hours into SWTOR upon release. The Jedi Knight and SIth Sorcerer were my mains and I have a lot of fond memories of it.
The game should really tell players there’s a difficulty option that you get if you click the PVE button on the bottom right of the screen
Love the personal stories you bring to these games and the backgrounds behind these games so much!
8 completable stories with great sidequests and great voice acting for free - thats SWTOR.
We need a modern Star Wars mmo that is inspired by Star Wars Galaxies.
Lock we need more videos from you. You're damn good at this. I enjoy hearing you talk about games
Amazing video as always. I played a sith Inquisitor got to level 70 loved the game. I didn't know that they streamlined it but still it looks interesting I will probably go back one day and play another character story. Maybe the imperial agent like you recommended.
Most of the streamlining actually happened over time. I started playing before LotS, and most of the streamlining was already in the game (Outside of classes being opened up and skills being given automatically). This mainly happened because bioware realised that their primary playerbase wasn't the hardcore MMO players, but people like me who played for the story, who played almost exclusively solo.
They played to their strengths (writing) and decided to make things less time consuming, reducing the amount of grinding players need to get to the good stuff. The two best stories on each planet were the planetary questlines and the player's class story. And that's all someone needs to do to stay on level curve. They don't need to do filler sidequests, they don't need to grind out the best gear, they can just enjoy the story.
For people wanting an MMO, the options are still there, but said options aren't forced onto people who want to play a bioware RPG. If people want a more traditional MMO experience, there are/were alternatives, but no other MMO leans into the story/RPG aspects like SWTOR. That's what makes it stand out, and it makes sense for the devs to stick with it.
Even without the time consuming grind there's a ton of content to experience. I'm someone who played almost exclusively solo, barely engaged with the MMO aspect and just played for the stories, and I still put in 599.4 hours on steam. Time I probably wouldn't have put into it if I had to grind a lot or engage in stuff like veteran flashpoints/operations constantly just to experience the story.
This is the only MMO I’ve ever stuck with and have come back to because of this
Great job on this one, Lock! I’ll be checking out SWTOR for the first time ever this weekend 🤙
same as well after a harsh start to the weekend
I only started playing this about a year ago and still am. I can safely say this is worth playing 👍
Lock knocked this video out of the park. Loved the format and personal context. Keep it up!
I remember I started playing this game during quarantine: I've had a great time, despite my shitty computer. Got roughly 1800hrs, which I guess shows how I feel about it lol
So this is my perspective on Swtor as someone playing off and on since 2011. I think Swtor or maybe this timeline has been explored pretty well, I'd like to see them either go back further in time to Tulak Horde's era and that period. Or advance a bit into the future. I think storyline they've used their best cards. And unless something changes it will mostly remain a niche MMO.
I randomly decide to give TOR another try and Matty drops a vid the next day 😂
Very excited for this video!
So great vid but a couple of things
- The game actually didnt get easier at 7.0 it got easier long long time ago. Like right after shadow of revan. It was around the time the character boost tokens really started becoming popular.
- The sidequests aren't taken out they are marked as exploration missions something you enable on your map to see (but thats still bad and should be on by default.)
- Scaling yeah it sucks but unless you can produce the amount of content wow can you just have to. It keeps all your content current.
- SWG didn't die because of NGE. SWG was already suffering massive player count hits with WoW. And it wasn't like the game was popping and being healthy, then bam nge. WoW revolutionized tab target combat, was way less grindy, made it much easier to group up with friends and not focus around macro farming DWB for hours. I love SWG but the combat was super dated post WoW. The NGE was actually the last ditch effort to spice up the game but the WoW machine was at full speed around that time and getting faster. It wasn't just swg but many mmos went through this because they all got wrecked by WoW.
As for Swtor, I do miss the slower leveling, challenging questing etc. But I don't blame them from shifting away from that. For starters alot of the "mmo/gameplay" oriented players lets be real bounced very early on. They would trickle back in on occasion but didnt stick as long as the more casual players. The other thing is the game has alot of hours of story with all the xpacs. Requiring someone to get through all of it is kinda rough its alot. Especially when you have to do some planets again and again for each class story. But mmo's in general have gotten easier just because well lets be real...alot of people who play them just arent good at gaming so end-game is where the challenge will live in most mmo's probably forever from this point.
This was an amazing video and a great road through memory lane. As someone who still plays SWTOR it is a game that just needed a little bit of love but man does that tiny team keep trying in a competitive market and I can respect that.
There is XP debuffs on the fleet to recreate old progression.
Something you should add, there’s an option under the minimap that lets you increase the game’s difficulty. If you click the PVE button on the bottom right of the screen it lets you switch to PVP or change PVE difficulty
@@LordFinai well its not difficulty persay that just puts you in an instance if you want world pvp enabled. Basically they removed PVP servers from the game a while back and merged them so this was their compromise. It was a bad move tbh, and killed off the world pvp communities of the game.
@@NotToShabby-nt2if I just launched the game, there is a PVE difficulty option when you click the PVE button, not just the option to switch to PvP
@@LordFinai its essentially their flagging system. If you have the pvp option on it allows players of the opposite faction to kill you. If you have PVE on, players from the opposite faction cannot kill you.
9:25 minor thing, but the bounty hunter is the equivalent of the trooper. smuggler and imperial agent are equivalents, easiest to remember by them both using cover systems
oh, i guess all the non force classes can use the cover system. but you know what i mean, that’s how it used to be
I love this damn game. Just started playing it again after 11 years and started a whole new Legacy on Star Forge. It definitely sucks that it's easier, but im alright with that since I mainly just wanna experience the class stories again. Gonna try to get my old lady on here as well (she'll play Agent and ill be a Bounty Hunter) . Might have to turn our companions on passive so things don't die too fast.
Breaking up with your long term girl friend is nowhere near as traumatizing as finding out that sex with animals is illegal in your state. 😏😏
Honestly, the reason why they never ported it to consoles is because it’s an 11 y/o game with an ancient engine. It would be more costly for them to port it. And frankly, the game makes money, but not enough to warrant the attempt to put it on consoles. At least that’s what was reported in the past.
Funny enough, the supposed reason they opened up the job system was to allow for greater character expression and roleplaying. This doesn't just apply to the tech classes either; If you have the legacy perk for going full light or full dark, either by actually reaching it on a character or just buying it, you can use that side's classes with origins on the opposite side. Jedi Knight using Juggernaut, Sith Inquisitor using Sage, ect ect.
The cover of the Star Wars theme on the piano goes hard.
Great video, I love your takes on these classics
This game is so nostalgic for me. I played it at launch and a little while after it went FTP. I never engaged woth the multiplayer much, but i loved going through the individual class stores, Jedi Guardian being my favorite.
i used to love playing this game in 2013 to 2016, it was a very difficult game, really rewarding, and i loved to wear whathever i wanted
This guy could become the villain but he decided to follow the light path, I'm proud of you!
I've been playing since launch with very little down time and I agree with this video. Yes somethings feel a little too easy in the early game, but I'm not against that myself. The enemy scaling, though, isn't 100% like how he said in this video, though. What happened is not planets have fixed "max level" for how strong your stats are, but you don't loss any abilities you have, so you can 100% steamroll some planets. Group stuff though, like Flash Points and Operations are set based on the different players' levels. But even then you can solo a good number of them. Speaking of Flash Points, some of them now have a "Story Mode" difficulty specifically for solo players, if they don't want to group up or play them on a harder mode. Finally, while companions can now be any role (dps, tank, or heal), you still need to raise their standing with you to make them more effective. A companion with lvl 10 influence won't be nearly as effective in a lot of the game as a lvl 50 (the max lvl). I definitely say try this game out!
Honestly my favorite class is the sith warrior which I thought had a great story in my opinion, plus I love vette she’s really awesome character and her romance was amazing in my opinion.
Great video. I miss SWG too the lack of force users at the beginning was so awesome I'll never forget. No other game except EQ1 gave me such an immersive experience
Really loved this video; it made me nostalgic for something I've never played.
Yo, the DBZ references in the gameplay footage is WILD!
This is the one game I always keep. Always come back to.
NGL I wasn't too big a fan of Lock during the first couple videos but I am glad I trusted Matty and stuck it out, this was such a great video. I am glad SWTOR eased up on the draconian grind from years ago lol.
Just started playing the game and I'm loving it, it feels like a single player game, amazing story an dfully voice acted. Wanted a new MMO so installed a bunch of them, this one was the one that i was least interested in, but still gave it a try and after a couple of hours unninstalled the others.
I got this downloaded more or less because I want to experience the stories. After my KOTOR 1 (Jedi-starter) playthrough. And then my KOTOR 2 playthrough. Might need a "Is it worth in 2026?" by the time I open this game.
I think you can change the difficulty to Veteran which is a pain in the ass defeating champion and elite enemies sometimes.
I started SWTOR in 2015 and still playing it in 2024, I have to say that Vanilla game still the best, expansion are not that great since there is no more unique story for each class, it all merges into one storyline (all the same to all classes) it becomes repetitive, but the thing that I hate the most is the newest expansion, they start to do the KOTOR cutscenes, no more full voice cutscenes and I hate it so much. I had no problem with that kind of cutscenes in side quest, companion alerts, events. But when they started to do it in the main story it pissed me off.
I just 100% enjoy the vanilla game doing side quest, explorations quests, story arc of each planet and bonus series of each planet, the rest I barely enjoy it...
You want a challenge ? Go to Veteran mode or Master mode operations or R-4 Anomaly SM which is hard too, you can also play in PVP, I upload PvP gameplay videos.
Yeah I am one of those that wanted the story, not the grind. I was there before the changes but I had a hard time with how long everything took. now I can finally dig into the story.
If I want a challenge, we still have the heroic missions and pvp and other content. But for me, it was always about the story.
(And if you were not a subscriber the grind was AWFUL because they lowered the amount of xp you could get once you were high level enough. Now the game gives out xp boosts to free players which helps get through that grind and rewards you for being a free player.)
Short Answer: Yes. Long Answer: depends on how much you like Star Wars VS how much you like mmorpgs
I played for maybe 30 hours back in 2017, stopped and lost the login info. Found it again late last year only find out all my character progress was gone 😭. I ain’t playing through that again, I’ve watched enough cutscene movies and lore vids going over all the story expansions. 😊
Hilarious. I am also an SWG refugee. I did get into WoW, too, and that was fun for a while. Now I'm a grown ass man with a family and career. Good times though.
And what about that "one time password"? Been trying to comback for days now. It takes a whole day, before I get my code and by the time I have it, it already expired....
100% agree i also miss the challenge before it got streamlined. It gave reason to do the side quests and doing these quest made the world you were on alive and brought character. Now its very easy up until end game or some group content. Its still fun but i do miss the challenge and the journey you had playing the game. I change my companions to damage or tank just so i dont feel too invincible and sometimes dismiss them completely so it hopefully still feels like a challenge. Ive just got a friend playing it and he's having a great time and so its made me excited to play again.
Both are still in the game, there’s an option on the map and minimap to show “exploration missions” those are the side quests. As for difficulty, under the minimap is a difficulty setting (You click on the PVE button to access it), have fun.
Star wars galaxies, in a retro-rebound. I never thought i'd see the day, a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!
Haven't touched the game in a loong time, but I absolutely remember having a blast with a LS Imperial Agent ^^
I feel this would get a big surge if it was on consoles and crossplay like ff14
Funny, star wars galaxies was the reason my first girlfriend broke up with me.
Tbh i would talk to my in game wife(probably a dude) more on a daily basis than her.
I'd give anything to go back.
Can't wait for ashes of creation
Dang what a banger of a song
Every video game for Lock has trauma. ❤️
I played SWTOR a lot last year after not playing for many years and gameplay wise it is in the best spot it’s ever been. The biggest issue is they never settled on a direction so you see elements of when it was story first vs mmo gameplay first and feels a little disjointed at times. The quality of the storytelling is great though and carries the KOTOR torch faithfully even if the experience is quite different. If they made more content for it, I’d definitely still play.
Can someone helped me with the launcher problem it says “ an error has occurred “
This game could have actually been something if it was also on consoles
Yeah ESO does it and ESO is also built on the same HERO engine as SWTOR.
I just want to drop in and say I absolutely loved Star Wars Galaxies, I spent my early teens grinding away to become a jedi, and literally a month after I finally achieved it, they opened the door for for everyone else 🙃
Star Wars Galaxies needs a reboot (without Jedi starting class). Modern graphics and gameplay in an open sandbox set during the galactic civil war. I'd never go outside again. lol
The Old Republic was more polished, but it never grabbed me like SWG did. My favorite feature was the Bioware style dialogue options, especially when in a group.
I was very much into this game way in the beginning, but over time I never really could get back into it. But honestly I'm not a big MMO person. I never really put a ton of time into them because they feel kind of tedious to me. I've given this one so many chances, more than pretty much any other game, because I am such a huge Star Wars and Kotor fan. I crave something modern that is related to the Kotor games. I also do enjoy the game for quite a while up until a certain point, then I kinda start getting that "why am I even playing this" feeling.
I like this guy Matty… thank you
Happy Star Wars day 🥳
I played this game from the final beta up until a year ago. And as someone who played 99% of the time solo, I Loved this game. Honestly the only reason I stopped playing was the time it takes between story expansions.
The challenge is there if you want it.... Mainly in endgame (or don't upgrade gear every 5min). But if you just want story.. I STILL highly recommend Swtor.
Hey! Is it possible to meet KOTOR 2 characters in this game? Or visit locations from it?
Man SWTOR was my second favorite MMO after FF14 and I ended up finishing Knight of the Eternal Throne and decided that I had done what I wanted and the direction BioWare was going was t for me. it was a challenge to do it with only myself and my companions but I did it, honestly I thought they shut it down
I agree I really enjoyed SWTOR when it was first released. Loved the progression. The catch is that my life changed and I don't have the timer I used to have (work kids), so I ended up playing more and more single player games, as I didn't have the time to sink hours and hours in an MMO. I recently started playing the game again and found it was a more digestible MMO for a busy life time. Do I think the old version was more enjoyable? at the time yes, but unfortunately in present day I would not think of playing it. Now it is enjoyable to sit in my living room while my wife is watching Netflix to play it on my steam deck. It was a really good review/analysis :)
Does anyone know if there is a private server that brings it back to the pre-f2p days?
That would be amazing. Wish BioWare would do a season of discover thing like WoW has
I enjoyed SWTOR in the early days when Balance Shadow/Madness Assassin was a unique and fun spec to play. It played like a mixture of unholy DK and Demo lock from MoP and was probably my all-time favorite spec in an mmo. They changed the spec probably around a year and a half into the game and I lost my passion for the game and went back to SWGEMU.
OMG, completely forgot. Happy may the fourth!
I started playing SWG in 2005 and would play it up until they announced the shutdown, after that I was hopeful that SWTOR would fill that void, but unfortunately the game itself had an identity crisis and it really didn't know what it wanted to be, it went all over the place with it's content and would change many things about it that would eventually lead up to it being mostly a single player experience. For someone whom has played it from launch, I don't feel like it's worth pursuing anymore, but for a newcomer who is just getting started they will be entertained for countless hours in the rich storytelling the game has to offer. The real unfortunate thing is the people handling the game now are from the company Broadsword and is a small team that pales in comparison to when it was in it's heyday and during the Knights of the Fallen Empire era. In all honesty it's on a life support scenario and could easily have the plug pulled at any point, which I'm wondering when will that time come, but until then it will still continue to linger.
The SWTOR Bounty Hunter is actually closer to the Trooper since they share skills just like the Smuggler and Agent.
My take on is is that, gameplay wise, trooper and hunter are equivalent. But, in terms of story themes, hunter and smuggler are equivalent
The power of one... the power of two... the power of many...
I can't remember how long ago(decades) by now that some dev said in a game interview "One of the hardest things when making games is that gamers don't know what they want. When you 'give' them what 'they want', they don't like it... if it's too hard, they don't like it... if it's too EASY, THEY don't like it. Gamers don't know what they want, they just know they want something they'll enjoy. Sometimes you just have to make the game how you want and hope the consumer likes it. If not, oh well... they'll move on." something to that effect.
Damn if it still doesn't hold true today, if not more so now than ever.
Just started playing this game and i love it
I used to play it but something happened that all my profiles were deleted so I stopped playing it.
It's funny how history repeats itself between SWG and SWTOR, the NGE is regarded as one of the most infamous updates that supposedly ruined the game according to many people despite it also bringing content we don't see in any MMORPG's these days. With SWTOR every update changed the game in many ways that would either be overwritten with the next big update afterwards or just flat out removed. It's a sad situation, I had high hopes with this game during it's early days, but now it's unfortunately run it's coarse for me.
I wish there was an offline mode so I can play the story on my lunch breaks
I didn’t play game
Yet but I love your voice lol
I wonder if the game is worth returning to a player who has done all of the class stories and all the content including the both eternal empire addons.
So I should feel blessed that 4 years ago I randomly decided to blast through this got a sub then during star wars month I was only credited half the month ha
My first break up, he left for an older girl who would do things I didn’t feel comfortable with yet. I was 14. Because of those circumstances, I didn’t feel like crap at all. I actually felt pretty good for drawing and enforcing that personal boundary.
5 years later, I married my husband of 28 years. He was the first to respect that boundary.
my personal story ranking from worst to best: Jedi Consular
Great video! Loved every second!
of the legacy of the sith changes you mentioned, the only one that LOTS brought was the cross class "skills"
The rest of the changes, easier gameplay, companion role selection, level scaling all came in 2015 with the KOTFE expansion.
KOTFE was a soft re-launch of the game and sought to tap into a then re-ignited star wars fanbase, and needed to make the base game appeal to a lower common denominator of players.
Game has been unfortunately utterly easy since. And the new expansions have a "one size fits all" design philosophy that honestly sucks. No reason any character outside of the 4 force classes would be the titular "outlander and Alliance commander" that is who you play as in the latest expansions.
The game has written itself into a hole with it's story, which necessitated a narrative shift back to the focus on Darth Malgus the game currently has.
While the game is alive and well, and pulls in many many millions of dollars a month, it is unlikely another massive story expansion will be produced.
Still though, thousands of hours of great story content is present in this game.
On ultra settings the game looks wonderfully, plays wonderful, the cash shop is non/invasive and overall the experience is one every star wars and mmo fan should try
came here for swtor, stay for bro personal life
My Biggest wish is that they make a remake for SWTOR i started since Release and yeah still playing but missing the good times with nice social play and not damn solo shit
God how I wish this would come to consoles… I know it’s old, but it still looks great and it’s the ONLY SW MMO as far as I’m concerned
Yes it is. I love this game so much. ❤
Yes yes it is best Star Wars game to me storytelling wise
I don't think you mentioned multiplayer once. You never said it mage the game better.
Would sw:tor be better as a single player game?
well its F2P and for 1 month sub unlock ( all xpansions ) 8 different class stories it changed alot since the 1st few yrs ( might be worth a re look into ) if you played before... cutting edge nope but if your a Fan you should enjoy many many hours
Video actually starts at 23:50
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Hi Darth Nihilus. Why did you lose to the exile?
Hi I miss u ❤️
love a new lock vid
Ah yes I can see the KOTOR remake now. Day 1 DLC. Pre order and get the exclusive lightsaber skin. $120 version can you get 5 free holocon crates. PS4 exclusive version comes with exclusive Manaan DLC pack, Bastilla is now trans
I just remembered the other day that i bought this on switch. And didnt make it very far for some reason. Idk, the game was fun though!
yeah, i really miss old heroic 4 missions...
Swtor is an amazing game. It's definitely worth a play if anyone hasn't yet. It's free and not play to win, hell you can pretty much just play it like a single player bioware game
Matty review the Dragon Warrior/Dragon Quest games!
Yes greatness has no expiration date