From what I’ve dug up, that Selkath on the cover of Kotor is Shasa the force sensitive selkath that was lured into the sith base. I’ve read that she was supposed to be the party member for a dark side character since saving Juhani is a light side choice. This concept is similar to Kotor 2 with Mira being for light side & Hanharr for dark side.
@@cthulhu888 I would like them to expand on side stories and characters in the remake such as Yuthura Ban and her home world of Sleheyron. Also diving deeper into the swoop gangs in the lower city of taris would be interesting.
@@retrorebound8887 oh for sure, yea some of its a bit cheesy these days but damn those locations were amazing...the only thing it was missing was courscant
Couture 2 is what I started with, so swapping back down to couture one, the less options when it comes to gameplay and feats and modding weapons and things like that was very strange to me and the UI in general feel very different. But couture one is a very much a classic feeling Star Wars story, very generic but with enough nuance in it that it's not terrible.
Kotor 1 is just classic star wars, a battle between an empire and republic, a special chosen one, a big twist. Its all there its just set a few thousand years before a long time ago. Kotor 2 gets a lot of criticism because it was rushed through developement and had content missing and certain things could have been fleshed out more. However, it was a very unique and interesting game to me storyline wise. While Kotor 1 was classic star wars in its story, Kotor 2 decided to do something different and instead of giving the same kind of storyline, it sort of challenged the player philosophically. Kreia is one of the most captivating and interesting villains I've seen in a video game and I have to admit, I had to play the game several times to really understand what she was trying to do, because she is anything but a simple character. She essentially is doing everything that she is doing not because she is evil per se, but because she hates the force itself. Its kind of hard to argue with her rational to do so. She wants to destroy the force because as a jedi historian and able to look at the vast history of the wars fought between the light and dark side, she came up with the understanding that the force itself was at the center of all the tragedy, death and destruction and she saw destroying the force (or attempting to at least) was the only way to end it. Even when I was playing the game I questioned myself as to whether she had a good point. I also found myself comparing the Jedi exiles decision of activating the mass shadow generator and destroying Malachore V to the decision to drop the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki to end world war 2. It is a much darker game but its also a more challenging game that trys to get the player to have a broader perspective instead of looking at things in terms of black and white, good and evil. At the time I've never played a game that managed to do that which is why it really does have a special place in my heart.
For anyone who has never tried, if you start your character and never level them up, but just play as Carth instead, you can get through the beginning with just him and Zalbaar doing everything, though it can be annoying in a couple of spots. Then, when you get to Dantooine, when you become a jedi class and they give you a free level, all of your retroactive levels are applied to the jedi class instead, so you can start as like a level 1 soldier and a level 7 or 8 guardian.
I do this tho I didn't keep myself at level 1 I level up a few times so my character isn't completely useless, love being able to get extra force powers
he’s exactly right when it comes to the “reven reveil” being one of the most shocking moments of rpg gaming history that is exactly timed, I remember thinking it but “holy shit it’s true” when Malik said it
I adore your reviews Matty and it's so awesome to see you talk about these two amazing pieces of art! I'm currently playing through my second character for the second game and I just can't get enough of the phenomenal writing and lore these games add to the ever expanding Star Wars universe. Seeing you get so excited to talk and share your love for them really warms my heart! :)
I remember my friend had me play this game like 3 years ago. The whole journey I had no idea I was Revan until we kept getting visions of him. Then I remember playing on stream and just asking myself out loud “Am I Revan?” And that question was just perfect. What a game. But I will always say Kreia is THE best Star Wars character ever created in all media
"Evil Laugh" I still remember making Zaalbar kill Mission on my first playthrough. If anyone reads this and loved KOTOR check out SWTOR then.. It's KOTOR as a MMO with 8 fully voiced Different Campaigns! Trooper, Siths, Jedis, Smuggler, Bounty Hunter, Imperial Agent. all 8 stories are definitely worth playing once!!
Never played them before, just finished streaming the first one and now making my way through the second one… Absolute blast, feel silly for missing out for so long !
If you enjoyed the original KOTOR's I highly recommend the online SWTOR, even if like me you're not a big fan of mmos, this one is awesome you get 8 class stories to play through so basically you get 8 more KOTORs
OG Xbox smashed it. KOTOR, Buffy, SSX3, Gladius, the list goes on. Playing through KOTOR again on switch first time in at least a decade and boy did I forget how good this game is.
One of my favorite games of all time. I managed to beat it over one week renting it from Blockbuster. The Revan twist blew my 14 year old mind. I also have to say I am a huge fan of the channel. What a great format.
First time I got to the plot twist, I was shocked and got chills from it. Especially when they start showing you all the hints from past dialogue sequences. Such an amazing game! I came across Matty because fallout but was happy that he had a love for this game! Also big fan of deathrow myself. Hoping to see a video on that some day from ya.
Hey Matty, I've watched your main channel for years and always heard you praise KOTOR. I bought it years ago but never played it because I really wasn't into the combat, however, after watching this video, I recently played it for the first time I gotta say, I'm in love with it! You made me a huge fan of this game, so I gotta thank you for that! Can't wait for the remake!
I completely understand why people don’t like the combat systems in the KOTOR games, but as for me I am one of the very few people who not only enjoys the combat but that actually really loves the combat. Even though I like the story of the first game better I think the second game is absolutely more fun to play even without the mods and everything else, just the amount of power you can have with the dark side in the game is just so much fun, and it is fine just absolutely wrecking everyone with force storm lightning and the force life drain power as well. Also MrMattyPlays I am glad that I found a UA-cam content creator that loves these games as much as I do, and thanks for sharing this love letter video of the KOTOR games and I always enjoy hearing you talk about them.
I remember playing this game for the first time and I had never played a game like it in my life. It was such a rich story and that Revan reveal? UNREAL. I lost my shit when I found out I was Revan. It made sense, but still blew me away! To this day there isn't a game I have played more than this. Such an incredible and defining experience for so many of us.
Matty because of you raving about Kotor since I started watching your channel I finally used my reward points and copped Kotor for $5. HOLY SHITBALLS this is the best star wars anything. Just built my first Green saber and am enjoying every second. THANK YOU
This was my first real PC game back in 2003 (roller coaster tycoon and sims doesn’t count) and man this game has left an everlasting impact on my life and fueled my love for Star Wars. What an amazing time with even more amazing games!!
Im a kotor kid. I consider it the best games ever. Ever since i popped in my cousins neglected disk, the one that came with the xbox... Last year my coworker gave me the xbox guide... much thanks to him my collection is aways growing.
If you are going to play KOTOR 2, play it on PC and look into mods, specifically the Sith Lords Restoration Mod that puts in tons of important cut content and features. Even if mechanically the gameplay isn't the best, the main thing that holds up is the story and characters. What most people assume is that the combat is boring and not fun to look at, but that's because it's a DnD style dice roll style turn based thing, when they expect the Force Unleashed. The combat is fun when you build your characters and give them perks so that you roll high and do a lot of damage, one-shotting almost everything by the end of KOTOR 2. You have to use a bit of your imagination (we had to do that in old games) of what your character WOULD be doing rather than exactly what you're seeing on-screen because it's an old game and animations can be janky. If that's not your style then that's cool, but it does hold up if you have patience to read and take your time when you play western RPGs like this. I think KOTOR 2 is the best Star Wars game story that's ever been told, due to it's complete uniqueness to every other story done in this universe. It breaks down the Force in a way that's never been done before, and gives you characters and companions that have extreme depth and allure: Atton, HK, T3, G0T0, Mandalore, seriously all of the game's companions have insane backstories, some important to piece together what happened to Revan. Also shameless plug to go watch the Philosophy of Kreia video, it's a fantastically well made video and sums up what many miss about this heavily under-rated game.
Also my favorite games of all time since I first played in 2004. Story and characters still hold up today. When I learned of the remake, I immediately searched for a video from matty since he loves these games as much as I do
Games made back when Bioware and Obsidian were at their peak. What a great time for Star Wars gaming, it's a tragedy that we didn't get a KOTOR 3 from Obsidian, Chris Avellone had some awesome ideas that never saw the light of day. Ive played through KOTOR 1 and 2 at least a half dozen times each and still thoroughly enjoy my experience each time. My top two favorite games of all time.
I personally enjoyed KotOR 2 more than 1. I like that it has such a complex story, and gives you the point of view from the outside of the destruction the Jedi and sith bring. Not to mention Kreias philosophy and the layers of secrets on her backstory as a Jedi with the handmaiden. The companions weren't as good imo, but they did have more complexity. The story requires a novel to fully comprehend, and even a decade after first playing it, I'm still unraveling secrets and hidden lore in the diologue.
Right there with you matty. If I could play any game for the first time again it’d be kotor. I had a very similar childhood experience as you with this game. I actually bought it in accident and was upset. My best friend had the game Star Wars 3 revenge of the sith(another underrated og xbox game). Anyways went into GameStop as a kid one of the rare times I was aloud to get a new game. Accidentally bought kotor instead. Went home with it booted it up, was angry I got the wrong game. But I kept playing because it was all I going to have for a long time. And man, best mistake I ever made. Replayed more times than I can count. Seeking out everything the game had to offer. Feeling every emotional moment on both sides. No game has ever given me the same feelings as kotor did when I was a child.
I just started playing this game for the first time since around the games release. Downloaded a ton of shaders and was able to make the game 1080p, and it is still so much fun.
Here in Sweden I literally got home a DVD with a recording of the games shown at E3 back in the day from a gaming magazine- to watch on my xbox and one of the game was KOTOR which made me pre-order it - it was showing of the water planet when you go under water. lol. Yes internet existed back then but no youtube so recording on disc was the best choice for real and good quality.
Funny thing about the combat system. I too wasn't a huge fan of it Because in my initial playthroughs. It was serviceable, but I don't think it ever clicked until I played another series of games; the FFXIII games. When I approached battle strategy and unit building with roles combinations and specialties in mind, the synergy was just so much more visible. It no longer felt like I was relying on the strongest jedi in the party, and everyone had a very important function. And that's been something I carried forward ever since because of how fun it felt. Like that image Obsidian had where Visas carried two blaster pistols? Totally plausible and feels like something I'd do nowadays. Specifically because I see my companions, their roles, their stats and their specialties in a different way. Harkening back to the XIII games, if my Visas is functioning as a caster or debuffer she doesn't need sabers, the ones who do are the tanks, and someone else could be on buff duty since they have worse wisdom stats and can't make good dice rolls. It's so good building a party rather than just one master speed guardian like I'd done for ages.
I love what these games did, love what they represent, love how solid they are. But am i the only one who never made it off the first planet in KOTOR 1 or 2 😔 shit seemed so long and complicated in both games as a kid and as an adult now i still never can get past the opening planets
You're not alone on that. MANY people find both Taris and Peragus boring. I still love Peragus, but Taris does feel like a blocker to the rest of the game where you get your lightsaber and begin the journey on the Ebon Hawk.
@@retrorebound8887 Peragus is honestly maybe my favorite starting area in a game. The atmosphere and mystery is really top notch and it definitely sets the tone for KOTOR 2. It is however mostly played with just your character so I suppose that can be off putting to others.
2 is only great for OGs like us who’ve played the first one and we’ve become older, give each game to us again at 18 yrs old and we of course would pick the first cuz of the revan twist
I always go scoundrel and guardian. I bump all 12 to 14 though out my playthrough St 12 ( bumped to 14 Dx 14 Cn 14 In 14 Ch 12 ( bumped to 14 ws 12 ( bumped to 14 Skills Demolition Security Accuratecy Persuade Treat injury This build usually pretty good and will give the player enough combat skills, force, persuade, etc to get though the game.
I loved the fact that it felt like it was way before the movies, with the sith and republic armors looking different to movies. It did wonders for immersion and it really suggested that anything could happen because the games were far removed from the movies. They went and ruined it in TOR mmo for storm trooper lookalikes etc.
I do a replay of Kotor 1/2 every year. I will play 2 times through. LS/Male DS/Female, then switch it up each year. Been doing this since I was 20. My wife has been putting up with it for 7 years, and I finally got her to do her own run through. Within 30 minutes she was hooked and sees why I can just play 10-12 hours straight even though I know every little detail at this point. CANNOT wait for the remake. Even if it just gives me the same thrill I will be happy
I played the perfect run recently on Switch. I was playing the game in a way I never had before. I spent 9 hours. NINE HOURS on Taris. Absolutely insane how good this game is.
Im replaying this game series agian as we speak!!! such great games! also my daughter just started playing the 2nd game because she beat the first and fell in love!!! next will be mass effect games!!!
I'm currently in my first playthrough of KOTOR 1, I'm playing it on the Switch. My family was poor growing up and I honestly didn't know that these 2 games existed growing up. So I was so happy to see a port on the Switch for sale. And I'm hyped for the remake, I'm a huge Star Wars fan, though I didn't like the recent trilogy movies. Those movies lacked the emotional impact the older movies have. Anyway, I have Star Wars towels, shirts, posters, and I even found a Star Wars Monopoly game just to name a few things in my collection. I'm also a huge Lord of the Rings fan, the Monopoly game I found in its theme is easily the shortest Monopoly game in existence that I know of at least. There's the One Ring piece that moves a space every time someone rolls the eye of Sauron on 1 of the die and it's gg when it completes 1 round. I'm enjoying KOTOR 1, though having a hard time sticking to it as I have other great games to play. And not worried about spoilers, I know I wish I didn't spoil myself, but I was really lost on how to build my character so they didn't feel so weak. Like for awhile I didn't understand why my character was dying in 2 or 3 hits despite wearing decent armor 😂, so I looked up build guides which thx to UA-cam also showed video titles and thumbnails that easily spoiled the game for me without even watching them. Sometimes I forget why I hate UA-cam when I search build guides. I do play other games for awhile to forget the spoilers which helps
So much so that you named your dog Revan... So much so that I often choose Revan as my character name in RPGs, at least on my first playthrough. Also, I was in my early 20s when this game came out, and as a lifetime fan of RPGs and Star Wars, I'd always wanted this sort of game, and it's the reason I bought an Xbox. I think the first two or three years I had an Xbox, I only had this game and the sequel.
Just picked up an Xbox in amazing condition with kotor 1 and 2 with the duke controller, I never got to play these games when I was younger. I'm excited to play em when I have the time.
The 2 KOTOR games and Cosmic Fantasy 2 are my favorite games of all time. I bought KOTOR 1 & 2 new with the strategy guides and still have them. I also have a KOTOR paperback book that was given to retailers to help promote the game and still have that as well. Fun games that were played dozens and dozens of times each over the years.
I still try to do a run through of both games every year they were so so good. Recently been watching lore videos and they inspired me to give swtor a chance so far so good 👍🏼❤️
14:17 KOTOR II was the first of the two that I played(before I realized there were actually two of them) and I was very confused by what was going on and then years later I finally played through KOTOR I and I loved it. I only recently played through KOTOR II in its entirety and I have to say that I think I like the story of KOTOR I better, but I love everything else about KOTOR II better. More stuff to do on each world, more and improved dialogue, choices are more important than ever, and you're not beholden to this "Chosen One" path like you were before you're more or less a blank slate and I think that's excellent. One of the more hilarious moments in KOTOR II I had was when I Force Persuaded a couple of thugs on Nar Shaddaa who were harassing an innocent to jump off of the inner balcony to their deaths - as a light side Jedi. Absolutely amazing freedom of choice.
We found KOTOR the exact same way. I didn't even expect the game to be good but till this day its my favorite game of all time. I cried when i found out they were finally making a remake and i'm 27 lol. The day they finally make a 3rd ill honestly loose my mind
I just started playing this game for the first time, and fell in love. Sad to say, I got to the Sith Academy and my game stopped working. No fixes i've tried have worked and i'd be way too sad to start all over. (36 hours in). Hopefully I can get it fixed at some point! Such a fantastic RPG.
Imagine all the cut content we could have gotten from both games. Also i would always do a soldier/guardian build too but would be restricted force power wise cause I love all the armor in game
I guess I'll give it another shot. I'm a huge Star wars fan but I guess this series missed me when I was a kid. I got it on Nintendo switch and I couldn't get past the first hour or so because of the combat being so clunky. But when you explain the story a little more in depth it makes me want to try it again.
Matty As a tried-and-true Star Wars nerd I just want to throw a bit of lore out there for you in case you are unaware even though what I'm about to say is actually considered legends now but 4000BBY which is the timeframe for KoToR its actually not the start of the Old Republic the Old Republic was founded 25,000 BBY after what was known as the Great Hyperspace War it was also during this time that we would see the rise of the first Jedi and Sith. That said I would love to see Star Wars games cover that time period since there isn't a single game that covers that, in fact i think the only source for that time would be in the comics I'm not even sure if there are books about that time.
Yes! I would love to see them cover the Hyperspace War in a Game or heck even in animated form like the 2nd Clone Wars TV show. If they also covered the Dawn of the Jedi story the Force Wars vs the Rakatan Infinite Empire I think that would perfectly piece into KoToR and expand more into the lore of Star Wars
@@josephwallace1501 yeah especially since the only medium for those is the dark horse comics so it would be nice to see that largely unexplored period brought into the new canon
After watching your previous video on Star Wars games, I decided to boot up this game and give it another shot. I've tried playing it twice but stopped playing after a few hours. I'm gonna give it a proper shot this time. I'm sad to say I already know about that big twist. Wish I could go into this game completely blind, but oh well. I did pick up on some foreshadowing at the start though, so that's neat.
Funny, i replay kotor 2 almost every year and kotor 1 i haven't played in probably 10 years although i own both on PC. As far as the lightsaber issue in kotor 2 there is a mod on steam that gives you a short bladed lightsaber on peragus, and my understanding is that giving you this triggers the game to think you have done the quest to make one and you will now periodically get a fully built saber as random loot after peragus. Also it does not remove the quest to build one, instead replacing all the parts you find with sabers already built.
I played the shit out of this at launch. I had just got an OG Xbox and asked the EB games guy what to get and wanted Halo. I asked which should I get. He suggested Kotor. I’m glad he did. I’ve played it so many times.
PSA to everyone, if you're on PC OR mobile, the KOTOR Subreddit has fully tested mod build guides, both full and spoiler-free, for both games. They're fantastic.
@@R3D_Lantern Yeah, the games are pretty solid on mobile. However, for the Subreddit's mod builds, you will need to connect your phone to a computer to install the mods, so if you don't have any computer at all, try to see if you can use a friend or family member's for it.
I remember my grandpa bought the original Xbox for me and my Dad as a surprise. It came with the dual game Jet Set Radio (another contender for my favorite game of all time) and Sega GT Racing, and he also bought Kotor. I was pretty young, like 5-6 years old, so I barely knew how to play it. I would just watch my Dad and learn from him. He used to get mad at me cuz I skipped the dialogue so often at the time lol. Can't believe they're remaking it, I'm so so excited. I'll also never forget when my Dad got Kotor 2 for me and then HE ended up playing it all night while I watched lol. I prefer Kotor 2 now tbh.
8:38 I don't know how many people know this but Jeremy Soule is responsible for a lot of the music of KOTOR. You know, Jeremy Soule, the guy that did all of the Elder Scrolls soundtracks(at least from Morrowind forward anyway)? Didn't know that did ya? Yeah, neither did I. He also sneaks Bastila's theme into a track in Skyrim(I don't remember which one exactly but I watched a video about it and compared and it's absolutely there). Amazing game, I love it. There needs to be another game, ideally in the Star Wars universe, like it someday soon because I love this game and would love to see the concepts in a modern gaming coat of paint.
I enjoyed the fighting in this. I set the game so that it'd pause every time I'd go into battle. I'd set up the perfect sequence of moves for my entire party and fuck shit up. Enjoyed hearing you talk about it.
I really wish we had gotten Kotor 3, I like many am not a big fan of what they did with the Revan book and how Revan and Meetra were handled in SWTOR. I think Obsidian and Chris Avellone were setting up something really interesting with Kotor 2 but it was kinda thrown away for a more familiar formula in Swtor and the book.
God I hope the remake will somehow lead to them finally making a Kotor 3,I hate that they didn't finish the trilogy back then.there is so many cliff hangers that we never got answered, especially the story about hk's origins
loved these games growing up, its one reason i wish i had PC again (and also knew how mods worked lol) just so i could play them again in their best versions, was hoping the Switch version would be a remaster but it sounds like its not, and no word on a port or remaster of KOTOR II yet
I went through kotor 1 and 2 but sadly didn’t see the ending because I got locked into a cutscene that froze every time on one and locked into a crash phase on the other but they are some of my favorites
From what I’ve dug up, that Selkath on the cover of Kotor is Shasa the force sensitive selkath that was lured into the sith base. I’ve read that she was supposed to be the party member for a dark side character since saving Juhani is a light side choice. This concept is similar to Kotor 2 with Mira being for light side & Hanharr for dark side.
It'd be cool if for the remake they resurrected her to be a more fleshed out character or even a party member somehow ^^
I would love to see this character appear in the remake too, but this is great info on that character. Thanks for digging it up!
@@cthulhu888 I would like them to expand on side stories and characters in the remake such as Yuthura Ban and her home world of Sleheyron. Also diving deeper into the swoop gangs in the lower city of taris would be interesting.
That would have been cool but fuck listening to their damn fish language for a second longer than is needed.
Lol
Kotor 1 = Best main story and twist in a game
Kotor 2 = Best writing and deep dive into Star Wars philosophy
Gotta agree with ya
I feel like KOTOR 2 is the first time we get vaguely introduce to what a Grey Jedi really is
"The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural"
"Not from a Jedi"
I want to go to the alternate reality where I'd be playing KOTOR 5, Republic Commando 3, and Battlefront 6 ...
Please tell me how to get there if you find it!!!
I still say 2 is superior, but man, that twist...young me had no idea how to comprehend something like that
I definitely learn toward 2 nowadays, but 1 is just undeniably God tier storytelling.
@@retrorebound8887 oh for sure, yea some of its a bit cheesy these days but damn those locations were amazing...the only thing it was missing was courscant
@@GhostCodeRG there’s a KOTOR 2 mod that lets you explore a little bit of Coruscant. It’s really cool
@@retrorebound8887 yea i tried it, it was ok, it kept bugging out on me sadly
Couture 2 is what I started with, so swapping back down to couture one, the less options when it comes to gameplay and feats and modding weapons and things like that was very strange to me and the UI in general feel very different.
But couture one is a very much a classic feeling Star Wars story, very generic but with enough nuance in it that it's not terrible.
I love these man, hope all is well
Kotor 1 is just classic star wars, a battle between an empire and republic, a special chosen one, a big twist. Its all there its just set a few thousand years before a long time ago.
Kotor 2 gets a lot of criticism because it was rushed through developement and had content missing and certain things could have been fleshed out more. However, it was a very unique and interesting game to me storyline wise. While Kotor 1 was classic star wars in its story, Kotor 2 decided to do something different and instead of giving the same kind of storyline, it sort of challenged the player philosophically. Kreia is one of the most captivating and interesting villains I've seen in a video game and I have to admit, I had to play the game several times to really understand what she was trying to do, because she is anything but a simple character. She essentially is doing everything that she is doing not because she is evil per se, but because she hates the force itself. Its kind of hard to argue with her rational to do so. She wants to destroy the force because as a jedi historian and able to look at the vast history of the wars fought between the light and dark side, she came up with the understanding that the force itself was at the center of all the tragedy, death and destruction and she saw destroying the force (or attempting to at least) was the only way to end it. Even when I was playing the game I questioned myself as to whether she had a good point. I also found myself comparing the Jedi exiles decision of activating the mass shadow generator and destroying Malachore V to the decision to drop the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki to end world war 2. It is a much darker game but its also a more challenging game that trys to get the player to have a broader perspective instead of looking at things in terms of black and white, good and evil. At the time I've never played a game that managed to do that which is why it really does have a special place in my heart.
6:57 that is my Revan :D
i Love your videos MrMattyPlays
and Don't Hold back on doing more Kotor Videos
These two games are my favorite games of all time. I'm so happy I got to play these games as a kid. KOTOR was the first rpg I ever played.
For anyone who has never tried, if you start your character and never level them up, but just play as Carth instead, you can get through the beginning with just him and Zalbaar doing everything, though it can be annoying in a couple of spots. Then, when you get to Dantooine, when you become a jedi class and they give you a free level, all of your retroactive levels are applied to the jedi class instead, so you can start as like a level 1 soldier and a level 7 or 8 guardian.
Never tried this before so obvious now
I do this tho I didn't keep myself at level 1 I level up a few times so my character isn't completely useless, love being able to get extra force powers
he’s exactly right when it comes to the “reven reveil” being one of the most shocking moments of rpg gaming history that is exactly timed, I remember thinking it but “holy shit it’s true” when Malik said it
KotOR was excellent, but man, KotOR 2 is easily one of the greatest games ever made. It’s my second favorite of all time after Dragon Age: Origins.
I like 2 but it doesn't compare to the Revan reveal In my opinion you add HK in and it takes the win.
*after.
@@redwaldcuthberting7195 Yes that's what I meant to say lol
@@PR-xm5zc hk and revan reveal is best 👌
I adore your reviews Matty and it's so awesome to see you talk about these two amazing pieces of art! I'm currently playing through my second character for the second game and I just can't get enough of the phenomenal writing and lore these games add to the ever expanding Star Wars universe. Seeing you get so excited to talk and share your love for them really warms my heart! :)
Thank you!
I remember my friend had me play this game like 3 years ago. The whole journey I had no idea I was Revan until we kept getting visions of him. Then I remember playing on stream and just asking myself out loud “Am I Revan?” And that question was just perfect. What a game. But I will always say Kreia is THE best Star Wars character ever created in all media
The Retro Rebound we've all been waiting for
Took me long enough ;)
How have I not liked this video when I'm pretty sure I've seen this video before.
Great video btw. Love that game!
Your videos have really sparked my love for gaming and collecting again. Thank you 🙏🏻
"Evil Laugh" I still remember making Zaalbar kill Mission on my first playthrough.
If anyone reads this and loved KOTOR check out SWTOR then.. It's KOTOR as a MMO with 8 fully voiced Different Campaigns!
Trooper, Siths, Jedis, Smuggler, Bounty Hunter, Imperial Agent. all 8 stories are definitely worth playing once!!
You monster!
Never played them before, just finished streaming the first one and now making my way through the second one…
Absolute blast, feel silly for missing out for so long !
If you enjoyed the original KOTOR's I highly recommend the online SWTOR, even if like me you're not a big fan of mmos, this one is awesome you get 8 class stories to play through so basically you get 8 more KOTORs
@@PR-xm5zc 8 more kotors is a stretch, they're decent but theyre not close to kotors quality, the expansions are closest to being that
OG Xbox smashed it. KOTOR, Buffy, SSX3, Gladius, the list goes on. Playing through KOTOR again on switch first time in at least a decade and boy did I forget how good this game is.
1 is the best game of all time- still the foundation for why i watch all your videos on both channels- cheers to ur pup revan!
One of my favorite games of all time. I managed to beat it over one week renting it from Blockbuster. The Revan twist blew my 14 year old mind. I also have to say I am a huge fan of the channel. What a great format.
The hype back then was immense, I remember when I finally got my copy I knew I was in for something special
First time I got to the plot twist, I was shocked and got chills from it. Especially when they start showing you all the hints from past dialogue sequences. Such an amazing game! I came across Matty because fallout but was happy that he had a love for this game! Also big fan of deathrow myself. Hoping to see a video on that some day from ya.
Hey Matty, I've watched your main channel for years and always heard you praise KOTOR. I bought it years ago but never played it because I really wasn't into the combat, however, after watching this video, I recently played it for the first time I gotta say, I'm in love with it!
You made me a huge fan of this game, so I gotta thank you for that! Can't wait for the remake!
I completely understand why people don’t like the combat systems in the KOTOR games, but as for me I am one of the very few people who not only enjoys the combat but that actually really loves the combat. Even though I like the story of the first game better I think the second game is absolutely more fun to play even without the mods and everything else, just the amount of power you can have with the dark side in the game is just so much fun, and it is fine just absolutely wrecking everyone with force storm lightning and the force life drain power as well. Also MrMattyPlays I am glad that I found a UA-cam content creator that loves these games as much as I do, and thanks for sharing this love letter video of the KOTOR games and I always enjoy hearing you talk about them.
I love this channel Matty, haven't had a new game in a while absorb me and reminiscing about old games is awsome
I remember playing this game for the first time and I had never played a game like it in my life. It was such a rich story and that Revan reveal? UNREAL. I lost my shit when I found out I was Revan. It made sense, but still blew me away! To this day there isn't a game I have played more than this. Such an incredible and defining experience for so many of us.
Matty because of you raving about Kotor since I started watching your channel I finally used my reward points and copped Kotor for $5. HOLY SHITBALLS this is the best star wars anything. Just built
my first Green saber and am enjoying every second. THANK YOU
This was my first real PC game back in 2003 (roller coaster tycoon and sims doesn’t count) and man this game has left an everlasting impact on my life and fueled my love for Star Wars. What an amazing time with even more amazing games!!
Fantastic video man!
Im a kotor kid. I consider it the best games ever. Ever since i popped in my cousins neglected disk, the one that came with the xbox...
Last year my coworker gave me the xbox guide... much thanks to him my collection is aways growing.
If you are going to play KOTOR 2, play it on PC and look into mods, specifically the Sith Lords Restoration Mod that puts in tons of important cut content and features. Even if mechanically the gameplay isn't the best, the main thing that holds up is the story and characters. What most people assume is that the combat is boring and not fun to look at, but that's because it's a DnD style dice roll style turn based thing, when they expect the Force Unleashed. The combat is fun when you build your characters and give them perks so that you roll high and do a lot of damage, one-shotting almost everything by the end of KOTOR 2. You have to use a bit of your imagination (we had to do that in old games) of what your character WOULD be doing rather than exactly what you're seeing on-screen because it's an old game and animations can be janky. If that's not your style then that's cool, but it does hold up if you have patience to read and take your time when you play western RPGs like this. I think KOTOR 2 is the best Star Wars game story that's ever been told, due to it's complete uniqueness to every other story done in this universe. It breaks down the Force in a way that's never been done before, and gives you characters and companions that have extreme depth and allure: Atton, HK, T3, G0T0, Mandalore, seriously all of the game's companions have insane backstories, some important to piece together what happened to Revan. Also shameless plug to go watch the Philosophy of Kreia video, it's a fantastically well made video and sums up what many miss about this heavily under-rated game.
As an 8 year old… the first encounter with Darth Scion scared the fuck out of me
Also my favorite games of all time since I first played in 2004. Story and characters still hold up today. When I learned of the remake, I immediately searched for a video from matty since he loves these games as much as I do
Games made back when Bioware and Obsidian were at their peak. What a great time for Star Wars gaming, it's a tragedy that we didn't get a KOTOR 3 from Obsidian, Chris Avellone had some awesome ideas that never saw the light of day. Ive played through KOTOR 1 and 2 at least a half dozen times each and still thoroughly enjoy my experience each time. My top two favorite games of all time.
The moment you find out you’re Revan is still the best moment in any game ever. Just ahead of the Jade Empire twist..
Fuck just picked the game up, didn’t expect to see the major spoiler just laid out in the comments
@@rocksteadyish shouldn't watch videos about games you haven't played. Day 1 ish bro. Don't read comments even in reviews 😒
I personally enjoyed KotOR 2 more than 1. I like that it has such a complex story, and gives you the point of view from the outside of the destruction the Jedi and sith bring.
Not to mention Kreias philosophy and the layers of secrets on her backstory as a Jedi with the handmaiden.
The companions weren't as good imo, but they did have more complexity. The story requires a novel to fully comprehend, and even a decade after first playing it, I'm still unraveling secrets and hidden lore in the diologue.
Right there with you matty. If I could play any game for the first time again it’d be kotor. I had a very similar childhood experience as you with this game. I actually bought it in accident and was upset. My best friend had the game Star Wars 3 revenge of the sith(another underrated og xbox game). Anyways went into GameStop as a kid one of the rare times I was aloud to get a new game. Accidentally bought kotor instead. Went home with it booted it up, was angry I got the wrong game. But I kept playing because it was all I going to have for a long time. And man, best mistake I ever made. Replayed more times than I can count. Seeking out everything the game had to offer. Feeling every emotional moment on both sides. No game has ever given me the same feelings as kotor did when I was a child.
Anybody else remember the 100+ page strategy guide that was released alongside this game? Wish I still had it
I just started playing this game for the first time since around the games release. Downloaded a ton of shaders and was able to make the game 1080p, and it is still so much fun.
Kotor 2 is my favorite game of all time. Truly a masterpiece.
I beat it 16 times when I was young also did it in 8 hours, this game Turley has a place in my heart
Here in Sweden I literally got home a DVD with a recording of the games shown at E3 back in the day from a gaming magazine- to watch on my xbox and one of the game was KOTOR which made me pre-order it - it was showing of the water planet when you go under water. lol. Yes internet existed back then but no youtube so recording on disc was the best choice for real and good quality.
Funny thing about the combat system. I too wasn't a huge fan of it Because in my initial playthroughs. It was serviceable, but I don't think it ever clicked until I played another series of games; the FFXIII games. When I approached battle strategy and unit building with roles combinations and specialties in mind, the synergy was just so much more visible. It no longer felt like I was relying on the strongest jedi in the party, and everyone had a very important function. And that's been something I carried forward ever since because of how fun it felt. Like that image Obsidian had where Visas carried two blaster pistols? Totally plausible and feels like something I'd do nowadays. Specifically because I see my companions, their roles, their stats and their specialties in a different way. Harkening back to the XIII games, if my Visas is functioning as a caster or debuffer she doesn't need sabers, the ones who do are the tanks, and someone else could be on buff duty since they have worse wisdom stats and can't make good dice rolls. It's so good building a party rather than just one master speed guardian like I'd done for ages.
I love what these games did, love what they represent, love how solid they are. But am i the only one who never made it off the first planet in KOTOR 1 or 2 😔 shit seemed so long and complicated in both games as a kid and as an adult now i still never can get past the opening planets
You're not alone on that. MANY people find both Taris and Peragus boring. I still love Peragus, but Taris does feel like a blocker to the rest of the game where you get your lightsaber and begin the journey on the Ebon Hawk.
@@retrorebound8887 Peragus is honestly maybe my favorite starting area in a game. The atmosphere and mystery is really top notch and it definitely sets the tone for KOTOR 2. It is however mostly played with just your character so I suppose that can be off putting to others.
@@Ston3D.FreeN7 personally peragus makes me want to off myself haha but interesting to see others like it, not hating doe
2 is only great for OGs like us who’ve played the first one and we’ve become older, give each game to us again at 18 yrs old and we of course would pick the first cuz of the revan twist
I always go scoundrel and guardian.
I bump all 12 to 14 though out my playthrough
St 12 ( bumped to 14
Dx 14
Cn 14
In 14
Ch 12 ( bumped to 14
ws 12 ( bumped to 14
Skills
Demolition
Security
Accuratecy
Persuade
Treat injury
This build usually pretty good and will give the player enough combat skills, force, persuade, etc to get though the game.
I loved the fact that it felt like it was way before the movies, with the sith and republic armors looking different to movies. It did wonders for immersion and it really suggested that anything could happen because the games were far removed from the movies. They went and ruined it in TOR mmo for storm trooper lookalikes etc.
I just beat the IOS port of KOTOR and it still holds up 👌 such a great game.
I do a replay of Kotor 1/2 every year. I will play 2 times through. LS/Male DS/Female, then switch it up each year. Been doing this since I was 20. My wife has been putting up with it for 7 years, and I finally got her to do her own run through. Within 30 minutes she was hooked and sees why I can just play 10-12 hours straight even though I know every little detail at this point. CANNOT wait for the remake. Even if it just gives me the same thrill I will be happy
I played the perfect run recently on Switch. I was playing the game in a way I never had before. I spent 9 hours. NINE HOURS on Taris. Absolutely insane how good this game is.
Im replaying this game series agian as we speak!!! such great games! also my daughter just started playing the 2nd game because she beat the first and fell in love!!! next will be mass effect games!!!
I'm currently in my first playthrough of KOTOR 1, I'm playing it on the Switch. My family was poor growing up and I honestly didn't know that these 2 games existed growing up. So I was so happy to see a port on the Switch for sale. And I'm hyped for the remake, I'm a huge Star Wars fan, though I didn't like the recent trilogy movies. Those movies lacked the emotional impact the older movies have. Anyway, I have Star Wars towels, shirts, posters, and I even found a Star Wars Monopoly game just to name a few things in my collection. I'm also a huge Lord of the Rings fan, the Monopoly game I found in its theme is easily the shortest Monopoly game in existence that I know of at least. There's the One Ring piece that moves a space every time someone rolls the eye of Sauron on 1 of the die and it's gg when it completes 1 round. I'm enjoying KOTOR 1, though having a hard time sticking to it as I have other great games to play. And not worried about spoilers, I know I wish I didn't spoil myself, but I was really lost on how to build my character so they didn't feel so weak. Like for awhile I didn't understand why my character was dying in 2 or 3 hits despite wearing decent armor 😂, so I looked up build guides which thx to UA-cam also showed video titles and thumbnails that easily spoiled the game for me without even watching them. Sometimes I forget why I hate UA-cam when I search build guides. I do play other games for awhile to forget the spoilers which helps
Classic, I hope one day we get KOTR 3.
So much so that you named your dog Revan... So much so that I often choose Revan as my character name in RPGs, at least on my first playthrough.
Also, I was in my early 20s when this game came out, and as a lifetime fan of RPGs and Star Wars, I'd always wanted this sort of game, and it's the reason I bought an Xbox. I think the first two or three years I had an Xbox, I only had this game and the sequel.
Just picked up an Xbox in amazing condition with kotor 1 and 2 with the duke controller, I never got to play these games when I was younger. I'm excited to play em when I have the time.
The 2 KOTOR games and Cosmic Fantasy 2 are my favorite games of all time. I bought KOTOR 1 & 2 new with the strategy guides and still have them. I also have a KOTOR paperback book that was given to retailers to help promote the game and still have that as well. Fun games that were played dozens and dozens of times each over the years.
Thank you🙏
Back when Star Wars was still good!
I still try to do a run through of both games every year they were so so good. Recently been watching lore videos and they inspired me to give swtor a chance so far so good 👍🏼❤️
These games are unmatched
Great video, Matty! KOTOR remains my favorite game of all time.
About damn time!
Absolutely one of the best games ever made!!!
14:17 KOTOR II was the first of the two that I played(before I realized there were actually two of them) and I was very confused by what was going on and then years later I finally played through KOTOR I and I loved it. I only recently played through KOTOR II in its entirety and I have to say that I think I like the story of KOTOR I better, but I love everything else about KOTOR II better. More stuff to do on each world, more and improved dialogue, choices are more important than ever, and you're not beholden to this "Chosen One" path like you were before you're more or less a blank slate and I think that's excellent.
One of the more hilarious moments in KOTOR II I had was when I Force Persuaded a couple of thugs on Nar Shaddaa who were harassing an innocent to jump off of the inner balcony to their deaths - as a light side Jedi. Absolutely amazing freedom of choice.
Yes I definitely feel the same exact way towards both of these games that you do!
DOWN YOU GO!!!
ICONIC!
We found KOTOR the exact same way. I didn't even expect the game to be good but till this day its my favorite game of all time. I cried when i found out they were finally making a remake and i'm 27 lol. The day they finally make a 3rd ill honestly loose my mind
I just started playing this game for the first time, and fell in love. Sad to say, I got to the Sith Academy and my game stopped working. No fixes i've tried have worked and i'd be way too sad to start all over. (36 hours in). Hopefully I can get it fixed at some point! Such a fantastic RPG.
That happened to me in New Vegas twice. I got the Hoover Damn and my save file corrupted or something. two different long playthroughs.
Imagine all the cut content we could have gotten from both games. Also i would always do a soldier/guardian build too but would be restricted force power wise cause I love all the armor in game
I guess I'll give it another shot. I'm a huge Star wars fan but I guess this series missed me when I was a kid. I got it on Nintendo switch and I couldn't get past the first hour or so because of the combat being so clunky. But when you explain the story a little more in depth it makes me want to try it again.
Matty As a tried-and-true Star Wars nerd I just want to throw a bit of lore out there for you in case you are unaware even though what I'm about to say is actually considered legends now but 4000BBY which is the timeframe for KoToR its actually not the start of the Old Republic the Old Republic was founded 25,000 BBY after what was known as the Great Hyperspace War it was also during this time that we would see the rise of the first Jedi and Sith. That said I would love to see Star Wars games cover that time period since there isn't a single game that covers that, in fact i think the only source for that time would be in the comics I'm not even sure if there are books about that time.
Yes! I would love to see them cover the Hyperspace War in a Game or heck even in animated form like the 2nd Clone Wars TV show. If they also covered the Dawn of the Jedi story the Force Wars vs the Rakatan Infinite Empire I think that would perfectly piece into KoToR and expand more into the lore of Star Wars
@@josephwallace1501 yeah especially since the only medium for those is the dark horse comics so it would be nice to see that largely unexplored period brought into the new canon
After watching your previous video on Star Wars games, I decided to boot up this game and give it another shot. I've tried playing it twice but stopped playing after a few hours. I'm gonna give it a proper shot this time.
I'm sad to say I already know about that big twist. Wish I could go into this game completely blind, but oh well. I did pick up on some foreshadowing at the start though, so that's neat.
Funny, i replay kotor 2 almost every year and kotor 1 i haven't played in probably 10 years although i own both on PC. As far as the lightsaber issue in kotor 2 there is a mod on steam that gives you a short bladed lightsaber on peragus, and my understanding is that giving you this triggers the game to think you have done the quest to make one and you will now periodically get a fully built saber as random loot after peragus. Also it does not remove the quest to build one, instead replacing all the parts you find with sabers already built.
I loved the prequels too
I played the shit out of this at launch. I had just got an OG Xbox and asked the EB games guy what to get and wanted Halo. I asked which should I get. He suggested Kotor. I’m glad he did. I’ve played it so many times.
Have a loose disc copy of II and a digital copy of I. Would love to find physical copies one day.
Am I the only one who got super excited about Kotor 2 just because you are wearing a Jedi robes???I just like seeing it flow in the air when you move
"Apathy is Death"
PSA to everyone, if you're on PC OR mobile, the KOTOR Subreddit has fully tested mod build guides, both full and spoiler-free, for both games. They're fantastic.
That content restored mod is an absolute must in order to play KOTOR 2
Does the mobile version of KOTOR actually play like the pc/console version or is it just the name and a totally different game?
@@R3D_Lantern It is a straight 1 to 1 port. Same game, same brilliance.
@@RevanFan I'll have to try and get it then. Never had a Xbox or pc to play it on and always missed out.
@@R3D_Lantern Yeah, the games are pretty solid on mobile. However, for the Subreddit's mod builds, you will need to connect your phone to a computer to install the mods, so if you don't have any computer at all, try to see if you can use a friend or family member's for it.
I remember my grandpa bought the original Xbox for me and my Dad as a surprise. It came with the dual game Jet Set Radio (another contender for my favorite game of all time) and Sega GT Racing, and he also bought Kotor. I was pretty young, like 5-6 years old, so I barely knew how to play it. I would just watch my Dad and learn from him. He used to get mad at me cuz I skipped the dialogue so often at the time lol. Can't believe they're remaking it, I'm so so excited. I'll also never forget when my Dad got Kotor 2 for me and then HE ended up playing it all night while I watched lol. I prefer Kotor 2 now tbh.
8:38 I don't know how many people know this but Jeremy Soule is responsible for a lot of the music of KOTOR. You know, Jeremy Soule, the guy that did all of the Elder Scrolls soundtracks(at least from Morrowind forward anyway)? Didn't know that did ya? Yeah, neither did I.
He also sneaks Bastila's theme into a track in Skyrim(I don't remember which one exactly but I watched a video about it and compared and it's absolutely there).
Amazing game, I love it. There needs to be another game, ideally in the Star Wars universe, like it someday soon because I love this game and would love to see the concepts in a modern gaming coat of paint.
I never played the old republic before, but sounds fun to play
Marty PLEASE do a video on the emperors tomb! I feel like not NEAR enough people know about!
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I 100% loved these freakin games wish they got a revamp reboot remaster
Huge nostalgia for KotOR II! I'll have to get CIB copies of it and Empire at War for the display shelf that I put my best Legion and X-Wing minis on.
I enjoyed the fighting in this. I set the game so that it'd pause every time I'd go into battle. I'd set up the perfect sequence of moves for my entire party and fuck shit up. Enjoyed hearing you talk about it.
KOTOR 2 is the greatest.
TSLRCM version took the game to the next level. If you haven't played that version, you need to.
Drew Karpyshyn is a genius. Wish he was still working on games. You mentioned you loved "Death Troopers," so I highly recommend you try "Red Harvest!"
Even though we didn't get Kotor 3, I'm content and glad we got Swtor at least
Got both of them on disc and with their case.
I really wish we had gotten Kotor 3, I like many am not a big fan of what they did with the Revan book and how Revan and Meetra were handled in SWTOR. I think Obsidian and Chris Avellone were setting up something really interesting with Kotor 2 but it was kinda thrown away for a more familiar formula in Swtor and the book.
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Both of the KOTOR games are hands down my all time favourite can't be beaten on story and character development for in my opinion.
God I hope the remake will somehow lead to them finally making a Kotor 3,I hate that they didn't finish the trilogy back then.there is so many cliff hangers that we never got answered, especially the story about hk's origins
I love kotor game too, i end this game several times on pc and several times on xbox series x and i can’t wait for remake on ps5 !
loved these games growing up, its one reason i wish i had PC again (and also knew how mods worked lol) just so i could play them again in their best versions, was hoping the Switch version would be a remaster but it sounds like its not, and no word on a port or remaster of KOTOR II yet
The PC manual was even bigger. It actually had a sort of spiral binding.
Till this day me and my brother watch the sith Lords trailer because how hard it goes
I went through kotor 1 and 2 but sadly didn’t see the ending because I got locked into a cutscene that froze every time on one and locked into a crash phase on the other but they are some of my favorites