Customer: I have burn-in on my 10 month old ASUS monitor ASUS: Oh look at this slight scratch on the back of the monitor. It's totaled. That'll cost you [original price+200] dollars to fix. Pay up or we send it back disassembled.
Yeah. I think that is more of an American issue than ASUS one. After-sales support for all brands is bad there for some reason. I think most of it comes from where one has to ship the stuff back to them instead of personally dropping it at the local service center(as the service center network is very much limited or non existent). We seriously never face issues like that here in India. Yes there are cases where brands do dumb stuff with warranty service itself like not diagnosing the problem properly etc. but they at-least cannot say that product arrived damaged or broken hence Warranty is denied.
@@KING_DRANZERthe only company I’ve had fabulous post-sales is Govee. I had a flickering problem and replaced it rapidly. Only brand I trust at this point.
@@KING_DRANZER yea ASUS is def some of the worst, but it’s absolutely an American issue. Have had so many warranty issues with products ranging from appliances, radios, aftermarket tail lights, PC parts. I’ve learned to stop trying to save a few bucks buying from some random seller having to rely on the manufactures warranty, & now just go to a store that supplies their own warranties. If you buy an ASUS at Best Buy or micro center, then have burn in, you can drop it right on the customer service counter & go pick out a new one (they have even offered to pay back the full cash amount sometimes if you wanted a different brand).
@@joshuac9805 Yes. That is the best. That is also the reason I always recommend Best-buy Extended warranty specifically for OLEDs. Yes if one purchases for other stuff too or Membership which offers coverage on everything(is what I heard) for initial period and can be extended by then end of initial period. Yes for some reason After Sales service from Manufacturers specially related to Warranty service is really not good in USA.
I just bought it about a month ago it's a great monitor, the built quality its great and for 80 extra dollars got a full warranty from micro center they will replace my unit if it has any defect or gets messed up during the next 2 years, the only thing I don't like is that crushes the blacks on certain sdr content or games happens most of the time, hdr is great tho, the blacks ,the brightness Is great, the color accuracy, I've heard about the text clarity but I dont think or feel is an issue to me
Yep, people that wouldn't buy an oled or ever had an issue with asus will comment, just to yap, vincent gave it the thumbs up, if you got light control and care more about deep blacks go for it, if you want saturation go for qd oled, if you don't have good light control get matte woled monitor(you can also wait for new layout if you not in a rush).
Im not gonna lie.. Glossy just has something about it. It's just, I love my matte gaming Monitors. But whenever I look at my Macbook which uses a glossy screen, or even my TV, there is just this difference. Yes reflections are really bad, but idk, it's just so nice.
@@Spealer It would be awesome. LG is still being conservative only pushing it to 250 nits 100% APL. I’d bet LG could hit 325 nits at the same power consumption as 250 nits QD-OLED for 100% APL.
@@SpealerQd oled doesn't need that, what qd-oleds need is to Samsung Display stop being so insanely cautious about burn in on the monitors. The qd-oled tvs are in a whole different league.
@@Spealer QD-OLED needs phosphorescent blue as much as it needs MLA. It would be much more power efficient. Problem with QD-OLED is it needs Blue OLEDs which is the worst efficiency of LED types. They should should 3 power consumption test with a variety of content not just a white screen since that's only a use case in office environments.
My only reference is the Steam Deck Limited with a matte OLED. I see no issue at all, looks fantastic. I own two LG C series OLED televisions as well. It’s extremely comparable.
When Asus taking the motto "For those who dares" quite literally, you know that you have to be daring enough to buy their products now with all the warranty shenanigans going on.
This was literally announced less than 24h after I received my FO27Q3. I felt upset because my ultimate endgame was a glossy WOLED due to my preference of playing with natural light on.
Is there any chance you can return it? Anyways the panel on this asus is last gen so the text will look trash and with even worse artifacts than QD-OLED so you shouldn't feel too bad about it.
In fact, even if it is an Asus product I hope it sells a lot because we nees more glossy screens on the monitor market. I hope they change their mind with the PG32UCDP and apply a glossy coating instead of matte
The monitor in SDR can get from full white brightness 100% 263nits to 1% 463 nits, if you turn off the uniform brightness, so this monitor is actually really good at SDR like most OLED TV out there, i really wish that reviewers give us SDR brightness charts instead of just giving us the 100%, is not like we are gonna be staring at a white picture all the time in SDR.
I've got a glossy WOLED TV and a matte WOLED monitor and game on both equally. The glossy vs. matte issue never comes to mind during actual use. It's good to have options obviously for those that care.
used both matte and glossy and honestly i see the hype over glossy and honestly prefer it over matte, but matte is still obviously pretty good for what it is.
I tried this monitor. Brightness is not 100% at default because 1. Burn in mitigation and 2. It looks awful as the eotf tracking is bad. Contrast is ruined and the colors are terrible. There’s even a warning when you try to enable it-for good reason apparently. Avoid!
I feel like they picked the wrong panel to do the test on. While priced decently it's still a highly priced monitor. Once I'm spending that much I'd rather spend a bit more for 360hz or wait for the 480hz which is just around the corner. If they'd done a the 480hz with a glossy panel it would be an instant buy for me, but this is a pass. I'm glad they released glossy but it's just not up to par with current samsung panels and about to be released woled panels. If glossy was an option when they first released the 27" woleds the results/success would likely tell a much different story than they'll get now.
@@dunuhn I agree with you, and that’s exactly the point I was making. There are so many compromises with this monitor; it's essentially a "budget" OLED monitor using older technology. The only standout feature is the glossy panel, which is why I believe this release is more of an experiment by Asus to gauge the market demand for glossy panels. If there’s significant interest, we might see higher-end models with glossy finishes in the future.
@@dunuhn Not sure why youtube deleted my comment, but I'll try again. I agree with you, and I think that's part of the issue. This monitor has a lot of compromises, making it more of a "budget" OLED with older technology like the WOLED in the "RWGB" layout instead of the newer "RGWB" layout, which is supposed to improve text clarity. It's alsocheaper, uses 1440p instead of 4K, and it uses older ports like DisplayPort 1.4 and HDMI 2.0 instead of the latest standards. The glossy panel is really the only standout feature here, which is why I think Asus might be testing the waters to see if there's strong interest in glossy screens. If it does well, we could see better models with glossy finishes in later products. Hell, they might even decide to change upcoming matte products to glossy ones.
I'm not worried about burn in. I'm worried about dead pixels. My CX over the time I've had it has not gotten any burn in but has gotten over 20 dead pixels and apparently it's a common issue WOLED.
The panel coating and brightness figures are a step in the right direction, and it's priced competitively. However, surely the version of this monitor with the updated RGWB layout will be the one to get.
I just got this monitor on Newegg for the introductory $699. I was planning to wait until Black Friday to make my choice but the introductory price got me to pull the trigger. It's my first OLED monitor. I wanted an OLED or QD-OLED 1440p. I am hoping I don't regret it ha ha. I have a dell 32 inch VA Panel so will be curious if the higher pixel density and OLED black levels makes up for having a smaller screen size.
@@michawiercinski926 compared to my previous monitors it's awesome but my first OLED so have no comparison to other OLEDs. Only other one I was considering was the MSI QD-OLED 360 hz but it's $100 more and wasn't in stock.
@@marcio2632-g5m Ha ha! Yes I have had it for one month now and am loving the upgrade! I have mainly been playing Elden Ring so can't speak to the 240 hz yet because Elden Ring is locked at 60 hz (come on FROM!!!) but the color and hdr pops a lot more and has a stronger 3D like effect to the images compared to my VA panel. I missed the larger screen a little bit but have now gotten used to the smaller screen and you can see a LOT more details in the images with this screen compared to my previous one.
with how good phones are at not getting burn-in i feel like i shouldnt be scared of a desktop monitor getting any burn-in. Ive never experienced a phone getting burnt in and i turn off auto sleep and leave my screen on all the time
I would love that... But I bet it would cost $1500. As awesome as the $280 AOC 336-zone Mini-LED monitor is, I wish it wasn't an outlier for Mini-LED options.
Once tandem OLED becomes a thing at larger screen sizes BFI is going to be a very useful and worthwhile feature. If two layers of emitter material can get you 1000 nits full screen, then a 50% duty cycle for BFI would still give you 500 nits full screen brightness.
I've got this monitor and AW3225QF. XG27AQDMG is better in HDR Gaming thanks to its 10% brightness. And the price is around 630 USD in here. Very nice gaming monitor.
for my first OLED monitor I'm thinking of taking this one. I do a 30% of time gaming, and 70% web development, so its important to be correct in office job, text quality... else i also thought of the Alienware AW2527DF.
I know this is probably not what you want to hear but everything seems to point towards avoiding OLED for productivity work. OLED seems to be better suited for Gaming and Media consumption so if that’s only going to be around 30% of your time with it, you’d probably be better off with a high end IPS monitor.
If you have the desk space and the budget, maybe consider getting a 4K IPS for productivity and anything that involves a lot of stagnant image (like the toolbars mentioned in the video) and get a 1440p OLED for gaming and general media consumption. That way you can have the best of both worlds. And if your desk is the limiting factor, use one of the monitors in pivot mode (and change between which one to use in which orientation depending on what you're doing atm).
Yeah that's something else. I can say Samsung RMA is decent via a reputable store in NL (Europe) all I can say. Ofc you can find a lot of stories about any brand if you look. So there's that.
I'm having to return mine and haven't even had it a full week! Retained the boot up logo, did a pixel clean. Retained the Steam homepage (literally was just booting up a game) so had to do another cycle. Clearly a faulty unit but not taking any chances for a replacement. HDR isn't enabled, brightness is at 56.
This monitor seems perfect in terms of glossiness but this is just insane how there’s no hdmi 2.1 now I won’t get it since it would be useless with the ps5.
Is there any way you guys could mention VRR flicker in your reviews and if the monitor has anything to support it? Its my understanding the latest firmware for both this and the PG27AQDM have some sort of new mitigation option. VRR flicker ultimately caused me to return my last OLED but I think its worth mentioning it as I don't really see it mentioned in many videos yet it can be a deal breaker for people.
@@Simon_Denmark Not to mention they are literally on the other end of the spectrum when it comes to pixel response, especially in darker transitions (black smearing).They are superior to IPS when it comes to high contrast/deep blacks and they make a good foundation for miniled backlight, but you simply cant compare it to OLED when it comes to gaming.
Great work as always. Also I know this will sound insane, but I think would be great if you guys could add a CRT model in the response time, just to put in perspective.
Hmmm, so that would actually make Radeon Chill a really nice solution to prevent OLED VRR Flicker. As you can set your VRR range manually. So on a per-game basis you can set this range and never have this issue.
Because there isn't one other than reflections. The glossy fanatics are a cult at this point. "Smearing vaseline on the screen", what a joke. They look exactly the same in dim lightning unless you have a microscope.
@@andrewmorris3479 The difference in image quality between the FO32U2 and 32GS95UE were very small in my opinion when I did a side-by-side. The reflections on the glossy screen (seeing myself and the windows behind me and my wife sitting on the bed watching tv and everything else in my room) were more distracting. It's all situational.
You should have compared the QD OLED vs glossy WOLED side by side with the same video playing .. I am sure the difference would be massive between the depth of blacks
proper PQ EOTF tracking on these new OLED monitors is the main issue. I don't understand why manufacturers don't just allow us to have a few presets/ settings like start with an accurate one and then you can boost shadows, midtones, highlights, etc. Even the Hisense U6 series used to have great PQ EOTF tracking so I'm guessing it's less of a cost issue and more of an issue of the manufacturer setting weird targets. Inaccurate dark level tracking on a WOLED is hilarious considering TV WOLEDs are praised for their shadow detailing and stuff (HDTVTest's reviews). Basically the playing field is even in the monitor scene ig?
But Tim, all manufacturers are following almost the same naming convention. You have the model name [series] which is Strix and the model name [number] which details some of the specs in the alphanumeric string. I dont see anything wrong. HP and Dell and others all do the same. The name is Strix. Which precise Strix product is detailed in the alphanumeric string.
Really I hope Samsung finds a way to bring the screen coating from the s24 ultra to all their other screens and that other manufacturers find out how to copy this coating from Samsung, that coating is just the absolute best thing ever.
Seems like brightness boost is at 55" and above. Maybe C3 and C4 at 42" is too small difference for the price if you have a C2. It some things a german review said the C3 is better than the C4 like better detail in near black area and color accurancy.
It has an anti-reflective film applied like the LG G3 and Sony WOLED TVs, I have a Sony A80J at home that has the same light diffusion pattern and slightly raised blacks in a light environment. Frustrating to see LG come so close to replicating how perfect the C2 reflection handling is only to mess it up by adding a film at the end.
Do you guys ever do any videos or big comparisons of ultrawides in the $300-$600 ranges?? I've seen some of your ultrawide recommendations and they can be very pricey. If so, can you point me in the right direction?
On the VRR flicker we are still on a bad situation. I am scared to swap my Samsung g7 va 240hz because i experience no flickering using vrr and g Sync, especially on NON optimized games like fallout 76. 160hz to 240hz Is a terrible range, should have been atleast 100-200hz which Is reasonable for AAA titles in 1440p. I think like its still early for me to go for OLED.
Asus has the best warranty ever, if your monitor malfunctions they give you a new one. My Asus monitor started showing weird lines after 2.5 years and I sent it back...they couldn't replace it so they refunded me 500 euro after 2.5 years.
Price is same as MSI MPG 271QRX or gigabyte FO27Q3. Which would you recommend between these threes? I mainly play in a room with lights open even at night, and like single player games.
Indeed some people prefer a glossy finish, myself included. I don't get direct sunlight into my monitor and I don't keep the lights on. Besides that, I mostly use it in the evening or night. The difference in clarity is huge, compared to a matte finish. And by the way, OLEDs don't have much time left on the market, they'll quickly start dropping in price hard, and won't be produced anymore in 2, maximum 3 years. Micro-LED is coming soon to the consumer market. Of course, the story will be the same as with OLED, crazy expensive at first.
Quite far off on your timeline there. Micro-LED will hit the consumer market in 2~3 years, but in very expensive, experimental form. We're not talking like 1st generation PC monitor OLED expensive/experimental from a few years ago, but like tiny primitive OLEDs made in the early 2000s yet cost a kidney. It will be at least the mid-2030s before Micro-LEDs become anywhere close to practical for the average consumer. OLEDs still have a very long time on the market left. Especially when you consider that by then, they'll be even cheaper to make. OLED will present a similar viewing experience in many respects to Micro-LED while being more affordable. LCDs have several advantages over OLED, but chief among them as far as the manufacturers are concerned is that LCDs are much cheaper to make. Do you see LCDs no longer being produced? If anything, MIcro-LED investment and research is slowing because manufacturers are finding it's been cheaper to commit to making OLEDs better.
@@NACLGames I mostly agree with your opinion, but I'll keep mine. I think micro-LEDs will hit the general market before 2030. Also, comparing the generation of LCDs with the OLEDS vs OLEDs vs micro-LEDs is not fair in my opinion, as OLEDs had major disadvantages when they launch, like burn-in concerns, low refresh-rates, very high costs. In contrast, when micro-LEDs will launch to consumers, they'll use all the existing technology from OLEDs (high refresh rates, VRR, DSC, etc) and I don't think the difference in price will be that huge and for sure they won't take such a long rate to become superior to OLEDs. I admit I might've exaggerated by saying 2-3 years, but I really believe they'll be here in 3-4 years. But time will tell, I guess we'll see who's right by 2030. Until then, cheers!
Is there a designated way to remove that super-distracting illuminated logo right under the panel? Looks like an utter deal-breaker to me. Crazy that somebody decided that it's gonna be part of the monitor rather than the stand.
The glossy vs matt comes down to room layout. My gaming/office has all the light sources behind or well off to the side of the display. This means the reflects are greatly minimized and I get the full benefit of the glossy panel. If you have a light source slightly to the side or even to the front of the display then a glossy screen might be a bad choice.
I was under the impression that brightness control brightens the lowest black levels and that the contrast control actually raises the max white level? Has this changed?
The image and reflection are two different focal depths. Focus on the image, not the reflection. You can't do that viewing a video of the screen so reflections look worse.
Hey man. Love your videos. Can you test the new Acer XV272U F3? It's actually an affordable monitor for me and the specs look good on paper (300Hz 1440p IPS) but I don't see any reviews and you people do the best ones.
Unpopular opinion. I'm probably one of the few people with multiple OLED monitors, and I prefer the matte on my PG27ADQM to the glossy finish on other displays. Granted, I don't work or game in a pitch black room, but I would imagine that is the same for most people.
Still no HDMI 2.1... Edit: Hopefully Tim tests the "Rog exclusive oled anti-flicker". Welp it just limits the VRR range, typical marketing gimmicks from Asus.
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Customer: I have burn-in on my 10 month old ASUS monitor
ASUS: Oh look at this slight scratch on the back of the monitor. It's totaled. That'll cost you [original price+200] dollars to fix. Pay up or we send it back disassembled.
Yeah. I think that is more of an American issue than ASUS one. After-sales support for all brands is bad there for some reason. I think most of it comes from where one has to ship the stuff back to them instead of personally dropping it at the local service center(as the service center network is very much limited or non existent). We seriously never face issues like that here in India. Yes there are cases where brands do dumb stuff with warranty service itself like not diagnosing the problem properly etc. but they at-least cannot say that product arrived damaged or broken hence Warranty is denied.
@@KING_DRANZERthe only company I’ve had fabulous post-sales is Govee. I had a flickering problem and replaced it rapidly. Only brand I trust at this point.
@@KING_DRANZER yea ASUS is def some of the worst, but it’s absolutely an American issue. Have had so many warranty issues with products ranging from appliances, radios, aftermarket tail lights, PC parts. I’ve learned to stop trying to save a few bucks buying from some random seller having to rely on the manufactures warranty, & now just go to a store that supplies their own warranties. If you buy an ASUS at Best Buy or micro center, then have burn in, you can drop it right on the customer service counter & go pick out a new one (they have even offered to pay back the full cash amount sometimes if you wanted a different brand).
@@joshuac9805 Yes. That is the best. That is also the reason I always recommend Best-buy Extended warranty specifically for OLEDs. Yes if one purchases for other stuff too or Membership which offers coverage on everything(is what I heard) for initial period and can be extended by then end of initial period. Yes for some reason After Sales service from Manufacturers specially related to Warranty service is really not good in USA.
ASUS: "Oh well, that'll cost you a small loan of a million dollars"
Reading the comments is tiring. I'm looking for opinions on the monitor but all I'm seeing are unfunny, unoriginal jokes about warranty :facepalm:
haters on the internet are tiring unoriginal idiots who spread misinformation.
I just bought it about a month ago it's a great monitor, the built quality its great and for 80 extra dollars got a full warranty from micro center they will replace my unit if it has any defect or gets messed up during the next 2 years, the only thing I don't like is that crushes the blacks on certain sdr content or games happens most of the time, hdr is great tho, the blacks ,the brightness Is great, the color accuracy, I've heard about the text clarity but I dont think or feel is an issue to me
Yep, people that wouldn't buy an oled or ever had an issue with asus will comment, just to yap, vincent gave it the thumbs up, if you got light control and care more about deep blacks go for it, if you want saturation go for qd oled, if you don't have good light control get matte woled monitor(you can also wait for new layout if you not in a rush).
Im not gonna lie.. Glossy just has something about it. It's just, I love my matte gaming Monitors. But whenever I look at my Macbook which uses a glossy screen, or even my TV, there is just this difference. Yes reflections are really bad, but idk, it's just so nice.
you could just say, the glossy screen gives superior clarity.
True! The matte one is grainy
That's because you see the colors without them being filtered through any other material.
I just received it and the screen is very good really! No problem with the text at all nice color good clarity very happy with it
Tim, the reduced power consumption in comparison to QD-OLED of an all white image is largely due to MLA.
Bingo 🎯
If only QD-OLED could get MLA
@@Spealer It would be awesome. LG is still being conservative only pushing it to 250 nits 100% APL.
I’d bet LG could hit 325 nits at the same power consumption as 250 nits QD-OLED for 100% APL.
@@andrewmorris3479saving that reserve for burn in
@@SpealerQd oled doesn't need that, what qd-oleds need is to Samsung Display stop being so insanely cautious about burn in on the monitors. The qd-oled tvs are in a whole different league.
@@Spealer QD-OLED needs phosphorescent blue as much as it needs MLA. It would be much more power efficient. Problem with QD-OLED is it needs Blue OLEDs which is the worst efficiency of LED types. They should should 3 power consumption test with a variety of content not just a white screen since that's only a use case in office environments.
That's actually a typo on the Asus website, its 3 Hour warranty not 3 Year warranty.
Typo , only in USA 3 hour warranty. In Europe warranty is way better (if monitor defect - money return like it or not).
FR 💀?
@@ids8128 ye
4:20 this has gotta be the best reflection handling comparison I've ever seen.
I don't like matte costings at all. I detest the diffusion banding that mimicks pixelating.
did you buy any oled before ?
Not been true for over a year but yeah sure
Oled matte is not the same as lcd matte
My only reference is the Steam Deck Limited with a matte OLED. I see no issue at all, looks fantastic. I own two LG C series OLED televisions as well. It’s extremely comparable.
When Asus taking the motto "For those who dares" quite literally, you know that you have to be daring enough to buy their products now with all the warranty shenanigans going on.
I nominate as tribute
@@dokkeyjust pulled the trigger as well. What’s your experience so far?
@@cheekimfbreeki9606 Still waiting for it launch in AUS, apparently the shipment has been delayed :(
what a daring comment.
if you actually follow the drama, they were last seen making amends with GN going to do a follow up eventually.
I don't get why we didn't see many more gloss panels up to now. Like even for IPS panels.
Agree! A laminated glass ips like on tablets would look good!
because with modern matt coating its just placebo, looks literally the same side by side with the downside of reflections.
@@narfsc2657 lol youve clearly never seen a glossy and "matt" side by side. Good try tho.
@@MrMGz07 you are clearly talking nonsense, matte screens improved alot. There is nothing wrong with it anymore.
Finally! A glossy panel that’s not a disgusting greyed out purple mess. Hopefully a 4k option comes out now
Ah Asus.
Gonna have a lot of fans of this one.
😂
yeah, might as well embed a dedicated RTX unit inside the monitor already.
we have pretty good consumer protection in europe
Now, we just need a glossy 4K 32in WOLED. C’mon, LG Display!!!!!
Clairement, ce 1440P n'est que l'apéritif
I have seen other displays with Qd-oled matte and glossy, and also matte WOLED, but i believe glossy WOLED is the way, it looks gorgeous.
You guys are my go to source for tech products. I bought my last monitor based on your reviews and i love it! (LG 32GR93U)
likewise.
32gs95ue for me
I wonder what kind of crazy crap they would come up with to deny your burn in warranty lol.
This was literally announced less than 24h after I received my FO27Q3. I felt upset because my ultimate endgame was a glossy WOLED due to my preference of playing with natural light on.
How is the FO27Q3? Thats what ive been eyeing but there are barely any reviews
not like this monitor was rumored like months now but ok
Can you not return it?
You don't want this. It's last gen. Wait for RGWB
Is there any chance you can return it? Anyways the panel on this asus is last gen so the text will look trash and with even worse artifacts than QD-OLED so you shouldn't feel too bad about it.
Honestly the LG27GS83QE I got has like a semi matte. Compared to my ips it is much more glossy, but still has enough to diffuse the reflections
Agreed, people really blew the matteness out of proportion.
@@DrBreezeAirWay out of proportion. But that's the internet for ya.
I'm SO GLAD they changed the stand back to a square. I couldn't stand the 3 legged design.
I agree, it looks like they improved it a little bit too.
Same, the was NO way that 3 legged design was gonna fit on my desk
In fact, even if it is an Asus product I hope it sells a lot because we nees more glossy screens on the monitor market. I hope they change their mind with the PG32UCDP and apply a glossy coating instead of matte
Video would be half the length if you referred to the XG27AQDMG as just "the monitor".
Please talk more on sRGB 2.0 / 2.2 settings, it actually makes a big difference in games and content
Can you please add the inch size into the thumbnail and/or title? Would make it a lot easier when looking for a specific size.
I laughed so hard with Tim waving his hand tilting back and forth in the screen reflection 5:00
the one at 3:35 did it for me lmaoooo
Easily amused eh?
3:18 exactly. now they need to make a gorilla glass version of the upcoming PG27AQDP 480 hz
The monitor in SDR can get from full white brightness 100% 263nits to 1% 463 nits, if you turn off the uniform brightness, so this monitor is actually really good at SDR like most OLED TV out there, i really wish that reviewers give us SDR brightness charts instead of just giving us the 100%, is not like we are gonna be staring at a white picture all the time in SDR.
I didn't buy an OLED monitor until now because I was waiting for glossy ones 🤪
theres been glossy oleds for a while. its just Woled that didnt have glossy.
Wich ones ?@@tomgreene5388
ordered after this video . TY
First impressions?
@@IDK-gh4st It's nice, VRR flicker is bad but I don't mind with it turned off
@@Geo64xhas this been adressed with some sort of driver update? Or is the issue just as bad still?
Hdmi 2.0 is such a shame, no proper capturing on this monitor. But why? It couldn't possibly been expensive to implement 2.1?
U dont need 2.1 on a 1440p.
Hi Robbaz
I've got a glossy WOLED TV and a matte WOLED monitor and game on both equally. The glossy vs. matte issue never comes to mind during actual use. It's good to have options obviously for those that care.
used both matte and glossy and honestly i see the hype over glossy and honestly prefer it over matte, but matte is still obviously pretty good for what it is.
I tried this monitor. Brightness is not 100% at default because 1. Burn in mitigation and 2. It looks awful as the eotf tracking is bad. Contrast is ruined and the colors are terrible. There’s even a warning when you try to enable it-for good reason apparently. Avoid!
With the compromises on this monitor, I feel like this is just Asus testing the glossy market.
This is LG using ASUS to test the glossy market as QD-OLED sales are hot as can be.
I feel like they picked the wrong panel to do the test on. While priced decently it's still a highly priced monitor. Once I'm spending that much I'd rather spend a bit more for 360hz or wait for the 480hz which is just around the corner. If they'd done a the 480hz with a glossy panel it would be an instant buy for me, but this is a pass. I'm glad they released glossy but it's just not up to par with current samsung panels and about to be released woled panels. If glossy was an option when they first released the 27" woleds the results/success would likely tell a much different story than they'll get now.
@@dunuhn Exactly. 480Hz panel would have been very enticing.
@@dunuhn I agree with you, and that’s exactly the point I was making. There are so many compromises with this monitor; it's essentially a "budget" OLED monitor using older technology. The only standout feature is the glossy panel, which is why I believe this release is more of an experiment by Asus to gauge the market demand for glossy panels. If there’s significant interest, we might see higher-end models with glossy finishes in the future.
@@dunuhn Not sure why youtube deleted my comment, but I'll try again.
I agree with you, and I think that's part of the issue. This monitor has a lot of compromises, making it more of a "budget" OLED with older technology like the WOLED in the "RWGB" layout instead of the newer "RGWB" layout, which is supposed to improve text clarity. It's alsocheaper, uses 1440p instead of 4K, and it uses older ports like DisplayPort 1.4 and HDMI 2.0 instead of the latest standards. The glossy panel is really the only standout feature here, which is why I think Asus might be testing the waters to see if there's strong interest in glossy screens. If it does well, we could see better models with glossy finishes in later products. Hell, they might even decide to change upcoming matte products to glossy ones.
I'm not worried about burn in. I'm worried about dead pixels. My CX over the time I've had it has not gotten any burn in but has gotten over 20 dead pixels and apparently it's a common issue WOLED.
The panel coating and brightness figures are a step in the right direction, and it's priced competitively. However, surely the version of this monitor with the updated RGWB layout will be the one to get.
I just got this monitor on Newegg for the introductory $699. I was planning to wait until Black Friday to make my choice but the introductory price got me to pull the trigger. It's my first OLED monitor. I wanted an OLED or QD-OLED 1440p. I am hoping I don't regret it ha ha. I have a dell 32 inch VA Panel so will be curious if the higher pixel density and OLED black levels makes up for having a smaller screen size.
How is it so far? Thinking bout buying one myself
@@michawiercinski926 compared to my previous monitors it's awesome but my first OLED so have no comparison to other OLEDs. Only other one I was considering was the MSI QD-OLED 360 hz but it's $100 more and wasn't in stock.
feedback my boy!!! xd
@@marcio2632-g5m Ha ha! Yes I have had it for one month now and am loving the upgrade! I have mainly been playing Elden Ring so can't speak to the 240 hz yet because Elden Ring is locked at 60 hz (come on FROM!!!) but the color and hdr pops a lot more and has a stronger 3D like effect to the images compared to my VA panel. I missed the larger screen a little bit but have now gotten used to the smaller screen and you can see a LOT more details in the images with this screen compared to my previous one.
Feedback brotha
ASUS XG27AQDMG or MSI 271QRX - tough choice.
Same here.. what did you picked up?
@@Alin-nb6yf I picked up a GBT Aorus FO27Q3. It was the right choice.
I am desperately waiting for the 4k dual mode glossy woled :P
I want to see a 27'' 4K 240hz/360hz glossy screen monitor in the future. That's my perfect monitor right there.
Gigabyte aorus fo27q3 it's 360 but is qd oled i think asus is better
Can you do a review between this panel and the 360hz XG27ACDNG. I can’t decide between the 2 displays.
Buy the in-store warranty if you buy anything from ASUS
with how good phones are at not getting burn-in i feel like i shouldnt be scared of a desktop monitor getting any burn-in. Ive never experienced a phone getting burnt in and i turn off auto sleep and leave my screen on all the time
if only these new monitors were actually in stock
Still in stock on Newegg
Crazy how great this channel is, but he never talks about VRR flicker 😅it’s made every OLED I’ve played on unplayable… and I have a 4080
True i dont know why he just avoids to talk about it..
They really should have gone with the current gen subpixel layout
Now we need a Glossy Mini-Led 1000+ Local Dimming Zones. Whose gonna be the first company to do that?
It is 30 years in the future… when we are 30 years in future it will be 30 years in future from that day…
I would love that...
But I bet it would cost $1500. As awesome as the $280 AOC 336-zone Mini-LED monitor is, I wish it wasn't an outlier for Mini-LED options.
I think Innocn has already done that with the 32m2v, i’m not too sure
Once tandem OLED becomes a thing at larger screen sizes BFI is going to be a very useful and worthwhile feature.
If two layers of emitter material can get you 1000 nits full screen, then a 50% duty cycle for BFI would still give you 500 nits full screen brightness.
I've got this monitor and AW3225QF. XG27AQDMG is better in HDR Gaming thanks to its 10% brightness. And the price is around 630 USD in here. Very nice gaming monitor.
Which one do you prefer?
OK but where are the 5800x3d results?
for my first OLED monitor I'm thinking of taking this one. I do a 30% of time gaming, and 70% web development, so its important to be correct in office job, text quality... else i also thought of the Alienware AW2527DF.
I know this is probably not what you want to hear but everything seems to point towards avoiding OLED for productivity work. OLED seems to be better suited for Gaming and Media consumption so if that’s only going to be around 30% of your time with it, you’d probably be better off with a high end IPS monitor.
If you have the desk space and the budget, maybe consider getting a 4K IPS for productivity and anything that involves a lot of stagnant image (like the toolbars mentioned in the video) and get a 1440p OLED for gaming and general media consumption. That way you can have the best of both worlds. And if your desk is the limiting factor, use one of the monitors in pivot mode (and change between which one to use in which orientation depending on what you're doing atm).
Thanks for another awesome review! Can you do a review of the new LG FALD monitor 27GR95UM?
Absolute shocker of a name.. you wanna know what else is a shocker about asus... Their rma process 🤣🤣
Yeah that's something else. I can say Samsung RMA is decent via a reputable store in NL (Europe) all I can say. Ofc you can find a lot of stories about any brand if you look. So there's that.
$ 982 USD here in Australia ffs ... No wonder why majority decides to go with tvs like C3/C4 ... Bit more expensive but hell a lot more versatile
Where did you find an Australian price?
Can we just have a 4k 27 glossy (like this) already please ….
exactlyyyy
I'm having to return mine and haven't even had it a full week! Retained the boot up logo, did a pixel clean. Retained the Steam homepage (literally was just booting up a game) so had to do another cycle. Clearly a faulty unit but not taking any chances for a replacement.
HDR isn't enabled, brightness is at 56.
This monitor seems perfect in terms of glossiness but this is just insane how there’s no hdmi 2.1 now I won’t get it since it would be useless with the ps5.
Need this monitor in 4k
Shout out to the Gamers Nexus nerds making it way easier for those of us who want better quality monitors find them in stock.
Wait so it’s advertised as 240HZ but you can’t take advantage of it?
Is there any way you guys could mention VRR flicker in your reviews and if the monitor has anything to support it? Its my understanding the latest firmware for both this and the PG27AQDM have some sort of new mitigation option. VRR flicker ultimately caused me to return my last OLED but I think its worth mentioning it as I don't really see it mentioned in many videos yet it can be a deal breaker for people.
They mentioned it in this video.
Tim tested it, it just limits VRR range. "Rog exclusive OLED anti-flicker technology" btw.
Well said, Just wrote the same thing. I think i still must keep my Samsung va 240hz. This vrr management shows the technology Is still not there yet.
@@brucendolf VA's have a lot of VRR flicker too. Depends on the monitor too of course.
@@Simon_Denmark Not to mention they are literally on the other end of the spectrum when it comes to pixel response, especially in darker transitions (black smearing).They are superior to IPS when it comes to high contrast/deep blacks and they make a good foundation for miniled backlight, but you simply cant compare it to OLED when it comes to gaming.
In Japan it’s sold for 580usd should I get it ?
Great work as always. Also I know this will sound insane, but I think would be great if you guys could add a CRT model in the response time, just to put in perspective.
Hmmm, so that would actually make Radeon Chill a really nice solution to prevent OLED VRR Flicker.
As you can set your VRR range manually. So on a per-game basis you can set this range and never have this issue.
I have a PG32UCDM and 2 PG27AQDM, I honestly don't notice much difference between matt and glossy.
Because there isn't one other than reflections. The glossy fanatics are a cult at this point. "Smearing vaseline on the screen", what a joke. They look exactly the same in dim lightning unless you have a microscope.
@@RockSaysPaperOPHaha y’all aren’t very observant. Open up a full screen white image and compare the two.
@@andrewmorris3479 The difference in image quality between the FO32U2 and 32GS95UE were very small in my opinion when I did a side-by-side. The reflections on the glossy screen (seeing myself and the windows behind me and my wife sitting on the bed watching tv and everything else in my room) were more distracting. It's all situational.
You should have compared the QD OLED vs glossy WOLED side by side with the same video playing .. I am sure the difference would be massive between the depth of blacks
Why dont you do full review of 27gs95qe?
proper PQ EOTF tracking on these new OLED monitors is the main issue. I don't understand why manufacturers don't just allow us to have a few presets/ settings like start with an accurate one and then you can boost shadows, midtones, highlights, etc.
Even the Hisense U6 series used to have great PQ EOTF tracking so I'm guessing it's less of a cost issue and more of an issue of the manufacturer setting weird targets.
Inaccurate dark level tracking on a WOLED is hilarious considering TV WOLEDs are praised for their shadow detailing and stuff (HDTVTest's reviews). Basically the playing field is even in the monitor scene ig?
But Tim, all manufacturers are following almost the same naming convention. You have the model name [series] which is Strix and the model name [number] which details some of the specs in the alphanumeric string. I dont see anything wrong. HP and Dell and others all do the same. The name is Strix. Which precise Strix product is detailed in the alphanumeric string.
Really I hope Samsung finds a way to bring the screen coating from the s24 ultra to all their other screens and that other manufacturers find out how to copy this coating from Samsung, that coating is just the absolute best thing ever.
nice review! could you review the LG C4 42" to see if it has an improvement over C2 and how it compares to these new monitors?
Seems like brightness boost is at 55" and above. Maybe C3 and C4 at 42" is too small difference for the price if you have a C2. It some things a german review said the C3 is better than the C4 like better detail in near black area and color accurancy.
4:05 that was an excellent comparison!
It has an anti-reflective film applied like the LG G3 and Sony WOLED TVs, I have a Sony A80J at home that has the same light diffusion pattern and slightly raised blacks in a light environment. Frustrating to see LG come so close to replicating how perfect the C2 reflection handling is only to mess it up by adding a film at the end.
At this point oled monitors is just a window shoping. Out of stock or at insane prices
Do you guys ever do any videos or big comparisons of ultrawides in the $300-$600 ranges?? I've seen some of your ultrawide recommendations and they can be very pricey. If so, can you point me in the right direction?
On the VRR flicker we are still on a bad situation. I am scared to swap my Samsung g7 va 240hz because i experience no flickering using vrr and g Sync, especially on NON optimized games like fallout 76. 160hz to 240hz Is a terrible range, should have been atleast 100-200hz which Is reasonable for AAA titles in 1440p.
I think like its still early for me to go for OLED.
Asus has the best warranty ever, if your monitor malfunctions they give you a new one. My Asus monitor started showing weird lines after 2.5 years and I sent it back...they couldn't replace it so they refunded me 500 euro after 2.5 years.
Thanks Tim.
Price is same as MSI MPG 271QRX or gigabyte FO27Q3. Which would you recommend between these threes? I mainly play in a room with lights open even at night, and like single player games.
Glossy 👍RWBG 👎. I'll wait for the glossy version of the 480Hz PG27AQDP.
I hope they take this approach for the upcoming PG27AQDP
Indeed some people prefer a glossy finish, myself included. I don't get direct sunlight into my monitor and I don't keep the lights on. Besides that, I mostly use it in the evening or night. The difference in clarity is huge, compared to a matte finish.
And by the way, OLEDs don't have much time left on the market, they'll quickly start dropping in price hard, and won't be produced anymore in 2, maximum 3 years. Micro-LED is coming soon to the consumer market. Of course, the story will be the same as with OLED, crazy expensive at first.
Quite far off on your timeline there. Micro-LED will hit the consumer market in 2~3 years, but in very expensive, experimental form. We're not talking like 1st generation PC monitor OLED expensive/experimental from a few years ago, but like tiny primitive OLEDs made in the early 2000s yet cost a kidney. It will be at least the mid-2030s before Micro-LEDs become anywhere close to practical for the average consumer. OLEDs still have a very long time on the market left. Especially when you consider that by then, they'll be even cheaper to make. OLED will present a similar viewing experience in many respects to Micro-LED while being more affordable. LCDs have several advantages over OLED, but chief among them as far as the manufacturers are concerned is that LCDs are much cheaper to make. Do you see LCDs no longer being produced? If anything, MIcro-LED investment and research is slowing because manufacturers are finding it's been cheaper to commit to making OLEDs better.
@@NACLGames I mostly agree with your opinion, but I'll keep mine. I think micro-LEDs will hit the general market before 2030. Also, comparing the generation of LCDs with the OLEDS vs OLEDs vs micro-LEDs is not fair in my opinion, as OLEDs had major disadvantages when they launch, like burn-in concerns, low refresh-rates, very high costs. In contrast, when micro-LEDs will launch to consumers, they'll use all the existing technology from OLEDs (high refresh rates, VRR, DSC, etc) and I don't think the difference in price will be that huge and for sure they won't take such a long rate to become superior to OLEDs. I admit I might've exaggerated by saying 2-3 years, but I really believe they'll be here in 3-4 years. But time will tell, I guess we'll see who's right by 2030. Until then, cheers!
nice review does the subpixel layout make pc and ps5 games blurrier or is it just desktop - thanks
Is there a designated way to remove that super-distracting illuminated logo right under the panel? Looks like an utter deal-breaker to me. Crazy that somebody decided that it's gonna be part of the monitor rather than the stand.
Is it actually glossy, or semi glossy like the qds?
Semi
The glossy vs matt comes down to room layout. My gaming/office has all the light sources behind or well off to the side of the display. This means the reflects are greatly minimized and I get the full benefit of the glossy panel. If you have a light source slightly to the side or even to the front of the display then a glossy screen might be a bad choice.
Gotta say, the absence of the HDMI 2.1 port is a dealbreaker.
Yeh, for 1440p 240hz 10 bit color, DP 1.4 is not sufficient if you don't want compression.
Exactly, you have to wait 2-3seconds when alt tabbing every time unless you are using fullscreen windowed mode… It really sucks.
Yeah Asus had the chance to change it from AQDM but still didn't...
So you can't actually run this monitor at 240Hz without compression?
@@Tych333 Nope, you can't like Tim said in the review.
Do you ever test monitors from more "DCC" orientated brands (like Eizo, Iiyama, TV Logic, etc.), or just gaming monitors?
I was under the impression that brightness control brightens the lowest black levels and that the contrast control actually raises the max white level? Has this changed?
Can u tell me when u will review aorus fo27q3 ? i just bought it , 2 weeks ago it is perfect! keep up the good work!
What's the point? If your monitor is messed up, their warrenty won't cover it and they'll give you the ring around. Not worth it, in my opinion.
The image and reflection are two different focal depths. Focus on the image, not the reflection. You can't do that viewing a video of the screen so reflections look worse.
Great review!
does the screen still have the micro lens array? that is what causes some of the grainy look.
What to buy XG27AQDMG or AORUS FO27Q3? GIGABYTE is cheaper but is it worth to save on quality? Both are expensive premium panels.
Asus. Dont want a pink panel
@@razor2049 but better fringing, colour, brightness(probably) and refreshrate.
@@flutek891 brighness is les. No anti Vrr Mode. Purple tint screen.
And cmon better Refresh? An 240hz d is way faster than a 480hz ips. Who want that?
Glossy good ..... No warranty bad
Asus for those how dare.......... 🎪🤡
I love my C2 42" .
This is actually semi glossy. For full glossy go with apple or dough
Hey man. Love your videos. Can you test the new Acer XV272U F3? It's actually an affordable monitor for me and the specs look good on paper (300Hz 1440p IPS) but I don't see any reviews and you people do the best ones.
Unpopular opinion. I'm probably one of the few people with multiple OLED monitors, and I prefer the matte on my PG27ADQM to the glossy finish on other displays.
Granted, I don't work or game in a pitch black room, but I would imagine that is the same for most people.
Decent SDR display you've got. 👍
I'll stick with miniLED. I enjoy my OLED, but I prefer the better HDR impact miniLED provides.
thist monitor or alienware oled 360hz ? elmb is better ?? alienware have it ?
Still no HDMI 2.1...
Edit: Hopefully Tim tests the "Rog exclusive oled anti-flicker". Welp it just limits the VRR range, typical marketing gimmicks from Asus.