Product names are engineered purposely to sow confusion, it homogenizes high and low margin products in a lineup, use a halo product to sell lower end/higher margin products by making similar(misleading) product names. Simply put, social engineering
Ideally, I'd prefer explicit "QD-OLED" and "WOLED" written either into product name, or spec sheet and on the box, both at the same time to make sure I know what I'm getting.
Wow, I’m really sold on the Ai crosshair feature! That’s seriously next level tech I can’t do without. Now I just need to buy one of those new Ai cases, and some Ai fans to go with it….
I wish 32" OLED pricing wasn't so messed up in Norway, Dell is the only option unless you fancy spending between 300-600$ more on the other partner models.
Ja aber in Deutschland hat LG den gleichen Preis als irgendwo anders auf der Welt also leider nur LG und Dell aber ich habe diesen Monitor aber die LG Variante 👌
@@BigFisch3000 Also nicht diesen Monitor, nur einen Monitor mit gleichem Panel. Sorry, aber ich kann es nicht haben, wenn diese Begriffe durcheinandergewürfelt werden. Featuremäßig und in Sachen Garantie ist der PG32UCDP seinem LG-Konterpart ganz offenbar ein gutes Stück voraus.
Could you start to test kvm functionality? It’s important for many people. If work at home for example, connecting work laptop with usb-c and have it working easy to switch between desktop computer. Earlier generations of monitors had this feature but it was badly implemented. Hence reviewing it is important.
Ive just received my monitor. I tested it with a macbook pro and a desktop windows pc. Ive got a keyboard and mouse connected. It switches automatically with 0 issues for me. All ive done is enable the Auto KVM toggle in the monitor settings.
@@raknikmik it’s great for me, it gets more than bright enough for my room (which was a concern I had at microcenter when I was testing it). 240hz 4k is great for everyday tasks and non competitive games. 480hz 1080p is super fast and has great motion clarity. I wouldn’t spend $1300~ on it, but I got it for about $1050 which was about the price I’d recommend for this.
@@TheInvisible84 It's dead quiet though.. who cares if it has a fan? Loving my 32gs, the blacks are unbeatable. The 480hz is also so damn smooth on cs2
I like the LG models stand which is more adult looking and compatible with a range of desk situations and the fact that it has high quality speakers built into the screen for extra minimal setup. I purposely waited for the ASUS version to come out so I could compare the two, I'll be waiting regardless until Black Friday/Cyber Monday time to purchase, maybe even catch an open box
Yes, I really appreciate the quality built in speakers in my current IPS 4K LG monitor as I use them throughout every day as I don't have room for speakers on my desk.
@@XeqtrM1 I just love how a certain demographic always knows what the majority of people are doing on the planet and are experts in everything just because it's the thing that may be true in their little bubble
@@chrisbullock6477 I guessed as much you said but what I do know is that the average gamer probably don't use a arm since most probably can't or don't want a arm but I'm pretty sure alot of people want it to save space because it looks cleaner but not everyone can afford that so ofc I know that to
Thanks for the review Tim. I have PG34WCDM and it has same issue with HDR, except no HDR400 mode. I wish you would have covered that in your PG34WCDM review. At least now I know it's real issue and can point to the source. SDR is really good so overall I'm happy with the purchase.
These prices are still way too much. Managed to get a Samsung G80SD for £760 in the UK (£720 after selling off the free SSD). I'd imagine there being similar type of deals in other regions. Any chance you'll get around to reviewing these new OLEDs from Samsung, Tim?
@@MortyTheAbrams Great. The image quality is great, SDR and HDR and usable in daylight with no reflections. 240hz looks so smooth in desktop and games. Plus the remote makes it so much better to use than a regular monitor. There's also a 21:9 toggle feature thats great for competitve games where it changes the resolution to 1600P ultrawide and letterboxes the screen. And because OLED, they're perfect blacks. If you can get for cheaper and don't care for things like KVM or DP 2.0 its certainly worth considering.
Price here is... not worth it at this price. Why are EU prices for OLED so ridiculous vs USA pricing? MSI takes the cake on that but now other brands are following suit. And before anyone bitches about taxes, I'm taking that into account.
Hopefully you'll get a OLED G6 27" and be able to compare as a lower priced alternative to this ridiculous MSRP, and the FO27Q3 you reviewed last month.
This looks perfect.. The USB-C and KVM switch makes this the perfect all-in-one for me.. Hopefully it will be available for a discounted price on Black Friday (week, month) or what ever they are doing this year :p
4:42 I don't like how QD-OLED warps the text. For example if you look at the M, its right leg appears nearly twice as big as its left leg. I much prefer the blurry text on a WOLED panel.
To me there’s not much difference in text blur from this review. I have the UCDP and disappointed atm due to the haze/grain/blur I see any text on a white background. Darker backgrounds are good but the haze and blur of the white makes my eyes feel blurry after…. Especially compared to my older 27GP950 model. I’m considering switching to UCDM and managing the lighting since I don’t have a lot of windows on my screens. So much compromise whatever you do on a 32” OLED…. At $1300 too! Maybe I’ll give up on 32” OLEDs as there are cons to each. Glossy WOLED I’ll wait for. For now I’ll just get the cheaper PG27AQDP at 1440p480.
At 13:23, this shows what I've explained to a few nerdy friends. You're essentially getting the same visual presentation or visual motion clarity of twice the hertz by using ELMB / BFI tech, assuming you turn the backlight / screen off for 50% of the time. Not all games can run at >300 FPS. If we can figure out a backlight that is both bright enough and can flicker fast & clean enough, if we manage a 75% off / 25% on time, then we could quadruple the _'effective'_ FPS in terms of motion clarity. Imagine playing a game that only puts out 175 FPS consistently, but it's going to feel like 700 Hz. They key is making sure the 25% 'on' time is towards the end of the pixel refresh window, when it's stabilized, so it's showing the intended color. Don't think this will ever work out in OLED tech, so crossing fingers for traditional. Maybe in a few yrs. Maybe Nvidia PULSAR will push the industry further.
"LG has only claimed they cover burn in over email and not specificly stated this on this website and i dont think this is good enough" Amen! when you're spending an unholy amount on such an item. no pun intended. Bless your excellent work Tim!.
Great review, I just bought the LG model at $1200! Great monitor and huge upgrade over my 27 Dell 4k ips monitor. I can't with the gaming styling on the ASUS, this isn't 2012 and I am not 16 any more... 😂😂
I am literally thinking about ordering one, just for the same reason xD How is the fan noice on it, is it audible? How do you feel about the speakers? Thanks
I see the over brightness banding on the 34 inch PG34WCDM WOLED as well. It actually just got a new firmware update, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. It's as if every corona has an additional corona and is extremely visible in HDR gaming. I am actually getting rid of the monitor due to this.
I spent a few hours last night building a comparison spreadsheet of the top 4K 240hz monitors. The LG 32GS95UE had the best brightness and 480hz option, but I see you're saying that it's overly bright. The lack of DP2.0 and worse VRR Flicker was also a worry. The Gigabyte FO32U2P was the best competitor that I was thinking to grab at MicroCenter today for $1100, due to it's DP2.0 and lower VRR Flicker. Does DSC really not matter? I was trying to avoid it. Should I just wait for the Asus PG32UCDP now that it comes with USB-C unlike the LG? I'm also worried about low brightness which is why I really wanted the LG 32GS95UE and now the Asus PG32UCDP.
I have the Gigabyte FO32U2P and Asus PG32UCDP side by side right now. The desktop experience is brighter and looks better on the Asus than the Giga, BUT the HDR clipping is INSANE on the Asus. Watching HDR video on both you can see all the clipped areas on the Asus. Even in DisplayHDR 400 True Black it's blown out. Is there no way to fix this? I'm not sure how you could recommend this with this terrible clipping unless there's some EOTF tracking fix. You will literally just see white instead of detail like on the Giga.
Thank you so much for the detailed reviews. I personally do use my current LCD monitor for office tasks during working hours and use it for gaming in the evening. But I often don't use the monitor for longer periods of time during work when I'm on the phone or so. Would it work to have the monitor turn off after 10 min of inactivity to prevent burn-in or do OLEDs no like being shut off and on frequently during the day?
Hey Tim, could you please consider making the "more advanced calibration guide using Calman" you mentioned in the "How to calibrate your monitor" video on HUB? Thanks in advance!
Have they not got the coatings the wrong way around? What I mean is that, QD Oled reflects a purple colour, so, would that not be better to have a Matt finish to reduce this rather than glossy, and the WOled reflects black, so, could support a glossy screen better?
Would you be able to run your suite of test on an S95D or C? I know you don't do TV's but I would love to see how the best TV QD-OLED panel compares to what we are getting in our monitors.
Was gonna wait for this model, but I pulled the trigger on the LG model since I got it for $980 brand new after discount, I occasionally use the built in speakers and wouldn’t use any of the features Asus has added, albeit they are good additions. I also calibrated my display myself so that’s a non issue. Safe to say I made the right call, fortunately.
@@whatsuphelp I used a spectrophotometer from x-rite. I would suggest using a more reasonable colorimeter though, much cheaper, I would’ve opted for that, but my friend lent me his.
I'm debating if to get this one or the 32ucdm, I do play fps games but I'm mostly play rpgs like diablo 4 and starfield and some racing games I don't play competively on a fps game just casual, which one is worth it?
If this was glossy, this would have been my choice.. Even though I would like to try out glossy vs matte myself. But when paying so much for an oled monitor i would like the full potential of oled to be apparent
Every time I watch these videos I forget that my Alienware ultrawide OLED being $800 when I bought it is the main reason it’s the best, because these prices are insane for what you’re getting.
Unfortunately none of the current GFX cards out now have DP 2.1 supported at full bandwidth so i guess the monitor manufacturers have opted to release monitors that can use that full 80 Gbps when there's cards that can out put that rate. It sucks but seems like they've gone for a more profitable product release than consumer centric.
When do we get 5k? 240hz? or maybe a 8k by 5k ultrawide? i would gladly pay early adopter fee if it provided high quality to go along with the high price!
Still no review of the 32 inch Samsung Odyssey OLED G8? It seems that since it is the only matte screen QD-OLED that it might have been something different to review.
Waste of time reviewing it, send it into the trash where it belongs. A 4K OLED display with a matte coating is a spectacularly dumb idea. What's the point of running 4K and bottlenecking the clarity with a haze/grain/blur filter on top of it.
i have g6 oled and destroys my TN VA IPS panels from past.. in motion clarity I can read blurbuster normal i see all lines from Blur busters by my eyes... Like is copy past :D It is not like he makes a video picture and u see how it looks no, it looks more clear with eyes. It has VRR control it means 0 flickers with VRR on very little input lag u get with vrr on and control on. My g7 had with Vrr ON And control VRR on 17msec.. with hdr... And in day you can use it normal there is no lights on monitor and Keyboard and pc is rgb no seeing lights from rgb on screen or anything. matte its more matter than my G7 it looks really black at day.
You skipped over in little detail the most important difference between the ASUS and LG model imo which is the duel mode for competitive gaming. How easy is it to switch, what options do you have, how easily is it to have a work machine vs gaming machine setup etc.
I WISH there was a place in the UK where I could see both the UCDP and UCDM side by side because I'm torn. I currently have a matte 32" 4k monitor and it's perfect for my brighter room, but I REALLY want the glossy look but fear I could never truly appreciate it's looks due to the daylight.
It would be cool to get a table, with all oled matrices, to easily navigate the lineup. For example: 34" 3440x1440 175Hz = Glare QD OLED 26.5" 2560x1440 240Hz = Matt WOLED 26.5” 2560x1440 360Hz = Glare QD OLED
I ended up getting the Samsung g80sd 32. I do love the TV capabilities the only problem with it is an intermittently black screen that forces me to turn off Windows HDR and back on then it works fine. WIN ALT B does this quick. Hopefully Samsung will figure it out in a future firmware update. I would have loved to try this Asus monitor.
We need affordable OLED. No one really games at 4K and HDR is nice but the panel is way more important. If you could make a video about OLED monitors that are affordable or just give us an update, that would be nice :)
I have an older LG 32" VA monitor, G-Sync, Matte, non HDR, and I love it. I only game at a maximum of 85hz, but I'm really looking into OLED. Just not sure what I want to get
I bought PG32UCDM last week, in 3 days I sent it back... in my country it is around 1550 euros, in my opinion, the price is something of a rare shame for what it offers as a product; in a short time we will end up paying as much for a monitor as we would for a high-end PC... for this money, none of them are worth it, let's be serious, at this rate where will we end up?! Please think 10 times before purchasing such a product!!!
@@MakeSh00t unfortunately after 1 month and a half I couldn’t test the monitor anywhere, plus, it was that when I realised how much the price is for an monitor when I had in front of me.
1550€ is definitely too much if you are not going to use it. But 1500€ is cheap compared to the only real 32” 4K 144Hz over 1000 nit HDR monitor two years ago. It was a heavy FALD panel with loud fan and 3000€ price. Now we get a better product (OLED, lower input lag, 144Hz->240Hz) at half the price. I expect the price of similar monitors to again halve in another 2-3 years.
The "Matte Coating" doesn't bother me, I think people trick themselves into thinking its actually such a big deal, thinking TV's and monitors are one in the same. I've been using so called Matte LCD monitors for decades...and it was never a problem. Even less when used with an OLED level panel.
When you're comparing the brightness to the qd-oled version of this monitor, which mode did you have the qd-oled set to? You don't have that listed which could be misleading.
Gotta say, the PG32UCDP/M and FO32U2P are the 3 main options for me. 321URX is sold out, Dell doesn't have DP Alt, LG and Samsung don't have USB-C at all and the cheaper AORUS has only 18W PD. But €1520-1699 for ASUS vs. €1430 for Gigabyte (what both cost for me) is hard for ASUS. I like all three tho...
video design feed back. As you transition from feature to feature can you keep the same type on the same side of the video? An example would be moving from the up close pixel configuration @4:27 with QD on the left and W on the right to font clarity @4:46 with the W on the left and QD on the right. Thank you in advance
@@nKrandom I have a WOLED tv which is glossy and a QDOLED monitor so Ive been spoiled by glossy. But that being said Ive never actually seen the WOLED matte in person. It could grow on me. I gotta see if the best buy near me has it on display to check it out.
Great job sir I'm always checking the prices of these monitors but it seems that we are going to need several months to see something interesting below USD 900 - 800 or less
13:50 I guess the BFI feature at 120hz would be useful if you connect a console to the monitor since the frame rate there is 120 fps? Or am I missing something? The 240hz image is of the pc running at 240 fps for blur busters. I guess if the monitor were at 240hz, but the pc was sending only 120 fps, maybe it would look worse. So BFI at the source frame rate improves clarity possibly in this case.
You reviewed Alienware AW2725DF and called it the "best gaming monitor" but for some reason it never appears in benchmark tables for people to compare products... It's not like there's a lack of space here either...
Would this be better then a 4k LG OLED C1? Im on the edge of getting this i just am not sure. My C1 already has burn in from desktop folders which is oversight i forgot. Though i disabled taskbar i forgot those folders are bright and they burned in and some times are now distracting in certain scenes of gameplay. Its definitely higher price but the dual mode is just wild to me. Hope more of this comes in the future with much higher HDR brightness. We should be peaking at 4-10k nits.
I am very intrested Gigabyte's new Oled model FO32 inch. Finally i can actually consider buying, even tho it's still really expensive. I was just completely priced out from oleds
It’s not much worse, basically glossy looks better than matte but it’s not a huge difference. Matte is just focused on if you game in bright areas. But it’s not a huge difference like I said so it shouldn’t be a deal breaker
It’s Asus, it has to be the best. Presumably with awesome HDR just like the PG27AQDM and the PG42UQ. Not even mentioning the legendary customer service.
Im good with my lg, I can’t fuck with that stand or the annoying rgb lighting, one thing is to have it on the back where it’s barely visible and another is having it all in your face
What are going to be the next OLED Productivity Displays going to be launched this year? I won't have a problem with burn in but I really have no need for 240hz. 120 or 144 is completely sufficient. Are the Samsung Gen 3 Oleds the best option right now (I just like OLED more than VA / IPS even though it's not perfect for productivity but I don't mind.) Micro LED would be fine as well though. I want a nice black.
The very few of us that use Tobii eye tracking have to somehow convince Asus that Tobii is fren and they need stop putting their controls bottom center so we can stick our eye tracking there.
I’ll wait for display port 2.0 full bandwidth monitors…. DSC stream compression takes away from quality in fast movement. I don’t want compression even if they claim lossless
3:26 Tim uses such professional language all the time so when he says "pretty dumb" it catches me off guard so much lmao
He's a profesional but still one of us lol
That means he was really really really pissed
Tim. Such a classical name.
I will never not be impressed by Tim perfectly pronouncing all the nonsensical model names.
Why dont they just use Q and W at the end of the name to make it clear with panel they use?
Product names are engineered purposely to sow confusion, it homogenizes high and low margin products in a lineup, use a halo product to sell lower end/higher margin products by making similar(misleading) product names. Simply put, social engineering
That would make too much sense.
But.. that would make sense! Why do that?
Ideally, I'd prefer explicit "QD-OLED" and "WOLED" written either into product name, or spec sheet and on the box, both at the same time to make sure I know what I'm getting.
@@Shini1984 At this price point you've already done so much research you know exactly what you are getting no matter what they call it.
3:25 - I guess I write "AI code" every day then 🤣
My code: if (pixel_color == crosshair_color) crosshair_color = ~pixel_color;
Thanks, AI!
This is a bad code, the best way is to always invert the current pixel color in the crosshair area.
@@KeepAnOpenMind Yeah, that's the way I wrote it first time. Then I thought crosshair must be drawn over the "pixels" so I inverted it 😁
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks Steve 😁
Haha, true😂
Wow, I’m really sold on the Ai crosshair feature! That’s seriously next level tech I can’t do without. Now I just need to buy one of those new Ai cases, and some Ai fans to go with it….
dont forget the AI USB -C Cables
I wish 32" OLED pricing wasn't so messed up in Norway, Dell is the only option unless you fancy spending between 300-600$ more on the other partner models.
It's exactly the same in Germany. I figure Dell is just employing another pricing strategy.
Ja aber in Deutschland hat LG den gleichen Preis als irgendwo anders auf der Welt also leider nur LG und Dell aber ich habe diesen Monitor aber die LG Variante 👌
@@BigFisch3000 Also nicht diesen Monitor, nur einen Monitor mit gleichem Panel. Sorry, aber ich kann es nicht haben, wenn diese Begriffe durcheinandergewürfelt werden. Featuremäßig und in Sachen Garantie ist der PG32UCDP seinem LG-Konterpart ganz offenbar ein gutes Stück voraus.
Same in Australia
@@dynastes4938 ja aber ich hab 4 Jahre Garantie weil ich das Angebot gekriegt hab also Pech gehabt
Could you start to test kvm functionality?
It’s important for many people.
If work at home for example, connecting work laptop with usb-c and have it working easy to switch between desktop computer.
Earlier generations of monitors had this feature but it was badly implemented. Hence reviewing it is important.
If it’s like the UCDM it works perfectly with updated firmware.
Ive just received my monitor. I tested it with a macbook pro and a desktop windows pc. Ive got a keyboard and mouse connected. It switches automatically with 0 issues for me. All ive done is enable the Auto KVM toggle in the monitor settings.
Hell yeah. Been waiting for this one!
The clairity is insane I'm honestly impress that the oled clarity is so clean and vibrant
I just bought the PG32UCDM a few days ago. I'm blown away at how much better it is than my old 27" 2k IPS.
Same bought one a week ago
Interesting I have 2k 165hz IPS. How does 1080p look ?
I had a similar experience going from my 24 inch 1080p monitor to my PG27UQ. 4K DisplayHDR 1000 really is spectacularly impressive.
"I bought a Ferrari, I'm blown away at how much better it is than my old Honda Civic Type R"
What do you noobs think "2k" is?
The biggest down side is The Gaming Design..... It's 2024 already.
Yep, Id immediately put a piece of black tape over the ROG logo if that wasnt removable.
Its ugly and distracting.
Its barely visible, quit bitching. Its fine
Logo sticks out like a sore thumb. Would look much cleaner without it imo
Absolutely, everything gaming is outdated at this point. This includes every motherboard BIOS/UEFI by the way.
@@sunefred It can't be outdated if it was never fashionable to begin with.
I bought the 32GS95UE 2 weeks ago, but I'm still watching.
How are you liking it?
@@raknikmik it’s great for me, it gets more than bright enough for my room (which was a concern I had at microcenter when I was testing it). 240hz 4k is great for everyday tasks and non competitive games. 480hz 1080p is super fast and has great motion clarity. I wouldn’t spend $1300~ on it, but I got it for about $1050 which was about the price I’d recommend for this.
@@raknikmikIt has a fan...
@@TheInvisible84 It's dead quiet though.. who cares if it has a fan? Loving my 32gs, the blacks are unbeatable. The 480hz is also so damn smooth on cs2
I got my pg32ucdm for $1169 on sale at micro center! They accidentally priced a new monitor as used, and honored the price anyways.
Probably an open box, I’ve seen that price for an open box unit in hmmm Houston I believe 😅
Lol
they got you hahaha
@@clairvoyance7424 Nope I bought it new, then had them price match it down to the on sale price when I saw it online.
@@stagm3 Ah, well I bought mine new then had them price match it down the next day when I saw it on sale. So I know for sure my wasn’t used lol
Awesome video as always! Curious if we're going to see a Samsung G80SD review at any point? Would love to see a comparison against the glossy versions
I like the LG models stand which is more adult looking and compatible with a range of desk situations and the fact that it has high quality speakers built into the screen for extra minimal setup. I purposely waited for the ASUS version to come out so I could compare the two, I'll be waiting regardless until Black Friday/Cyber Monday time to purchase, maybe even catch an open box
Yes, I really appreciate the quality built in speakers in my current IPS 4K LG monitor as I use them throughout every day as I don't have room for speakers on my desk.
Who uses a stand this days I mean most people use monitor arm to get more space
@@XeqtrM1 I just love how a certain demographic always knows what the majority of people are doing on the planet and are experts in everything just because it's the thing that may be true in their little bubble
@@chrisbullock6477 I guessed as much you said but what I do know is that the average gamer probably don't use a arm since most probably can't or don't want a arm but I'm pretty sure alot of people want it to save space because it looks cleaner but not everyone can afford that so ofc I know that to
@@XeqtrM1 awesome!
Outstanding review. Exactly what I needed to know. Thank you.
Got the LG model today for $1080 brand new from LG website today. Felt like a pretty good discount.
Thanks for the review Tim.
I have PG34WCDM and it has same issue with HDR, except no HDR400 mode. I wish you would have covered that in your PG34WCDM review. At least now I know it's real issue and can point to the source. SDR is really good so overall I'm happy with the purchase.
These prices are still way too much. Managed to get a Samsung G80SD for £760 in the UK (£720 after selling off the free SSD). I'd imagine there being similar type of deals in other regions.
Any chance you'll get around to reviewing these new OLEDs from Samsung, Tim?
How is it for you? Considering getting myself one
@@MortyTheAbrams Great. The image quality is great, SDR and HDR and usable in daylight with no reflections. 240hz looks so smooth in desktop and games. Plus the remote makes it so much better to use than a regular monitor.
There's also a 21:9 toggle feature thats great for competitve games where it changes the resolution to 1600P ultrawide and letterboxes the screen. And because OLED, they're perfect blacks. If you can get for cheaper and don't care for things like KVM or DP 2.0 its certainly worth considering.
Price here is... not worth it at this price. Why are EU prices for OLED so ridiculous vs USA pricing? MSI takes the cake on that but now other brands are following suit. And before anyone bitches about taxes, I'm taking that into account.
Dell is the only reasonably priced one outside the US. Have to live with the curve.
At least you get a price they just don't exist in the UK
@@mryellow6918 Want me to send some over? I'll only tack on the same percentage the brand does, as a commission 😁
In my country it cost 1500€ with a 21% tax included, so is close to US price without taxes
Lol it's €1700 here in Croatia with tax that's insane.
Hopefully you'll get a OLED G6 27" and be able to compare as a lower priced alternative to this ridiculous MSRP, and the FO27Q3 you reviewed last month.
what's up with the burnin on your previous model ?
This looks perfect.. The USB-C and KVM switch makes this the perfect all-in-one for me.. Hopefully it will be available for a discounted price on Black Friday (week, month) or what ever they are doing this year :p
Still no review of the 32 inch Samsung Odyssey OLED G8?
4:42 I don't like how QD-OLED warps the text. For example if you look at the M, its right leg appears nearly twice as big as its left leg. I much prefer the blurry text on a WOLED panel.
Btw is there a name for this vertical inconsistency? I've also noticed this in the past on other monitors.
I agree, i prefer the WOLED text clarity.
To me there’s not much difference in text blur from this review. I have the UCDP and disappointed atm due to the haze/grain/blur I see any text on a white background. Darker backgrounds are good but the haze and blur of the white makes my eyes feel blurry after…. Especially compared to my older 27GP950 model.
I’m considering switching to UCDM and managing the lighting since I don’t have a lot of windows on my screens.
So much compromise whatever you do on a 32” OLED…. At $1300 too! Maybe I’ll give up on 32” OLEDs as there are cons to each. Glossy WOLED I’ll wait for.
For now I’ll just get the cheaper PG27AQDP at 1440p480.
Can you review MSI MAG 274QRF-QD E2 please 🙏🙏🙏 It's popular in my region but has zero detailed reviews
Finally i have been wait for this
At 13:23, this shows what I've explained to a few nerdy friends. You're essentially getting the same visual presentation or visual motion clarity of twice the hertz by using ELMB / BFI tech, assuming you turn the backlight / screen off for 50% of the time.
Not all games can run at >300 FPS. If we can figure out a backlight that is both bright enough and can flicker fast & clean enough, if we manage a 75% off / 25% on time, then we could quadruple the _'effective'_ FPS in terms of motion clarity.
Imagine playing a game that only puts out 175 FPS consistently, but it's going to feel like 700 Hz. They key is making sure the 25% 'on' time is towards the end of the pixel refresh window, when it's stabilized, so it's showing the intended color.
Don't think this will ever work out in OLED tech, so crossing fingers for traditional. Maybe in a few yrs. Maybe Nvidia PULSAR will push the industry further.
"LG has only claimed they cover burn in over email and not specificly stated this on this website and i dont think this is good enough"
Amen! when you're spending an unholy amount on such an item. no pun intended.
Bless your excellent work Tim!.
Woah. I game on a 144 Hz OLED TV (with VRR) and am blown away by the motion smoothness. I can't even imagine how smooth 480 Hz would look. :)
nice review does the subpixel layout make pc and ps5 games blurrier or is it just desktop - thanks
Would you ever review dirt cheap/off brand Q/W oled monitors?
He has but they are last gen oled tech.
Thanks for the review.
I was considering buying this, but ended up just getting a 1440p monitor, just seems like less work and has the best of both worlds
I picked up the aorus fo27q3 and it’s been amazing, i was gonna try this pg32ucdp out but I can’t go back to a matte coating
KVM, very nice, just moved to the top of my list of monitors to replace my ultrawide Dell.
Im in love with my pg32ucdm ❤
Great review, I just bought the LG model at $1200! Great monitor and huge upgrade over my 27 Dell 4k ips monitor. I can't with the gaming styling on the ASUS, this isn't 2012 and I am not 16 any more... 😂😂
I am literally thinking about ordering one, just for the same reason xD How is the fan noice on it, is it audible? How do you feel about the speakers? Thanks
I see the over brightness banding on the 34 inch PG34WCDM WOLED as well. It actually just got a new firmware update, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
It's as if every corona has an additional corona and is extremely visible in HDR gaming. I am actually getting rid of the monitor due to this.
I spent a few hours last night building a comparison spreadsheet of the top 4K 240hz monitors. The LG 32GS95UE had the best brightness and 480hz option, but I see you're saying that it's overly bright. The lack of DP2.0 and worse VRR Flicker was also a worry. The Gigabyte FO32U2P was the best competitor that I was thinking to grab at MicroCenter today for $1100, due to it's DP2.0 and lower VRR Flicker. Does DSC really not matter? I was trying to avoid it. Should I just wait for the Asus PG32UCDP now that it comes with USB-C unlike the LG? I'm also worried about low brightness which is why I really wanted the LG 32GS95UE and now the Asus PG32UCDP.
I have the Gigabyte FO32U2P and Asus PG32UCDP side by side right now. The desktop experience is brighter and looks better on the Asus than the Giga, BUT the HDR clipping is INSANE on the Asus. Watching HDR video on both you can see all the clipped areas on the Asus. Even in DisplayHDR 400 True Black it's blown out. Is there no way to fix this? I'm not sure how you could recommend this with this terrible clipping unless there's some EOTF tracking fix. You will literally just see white instead of detail like on the Giga.
Would love to see a review on the Samsung Oled G6
Thank you so much for the detailed reviews. I personally do use my current LCD monitor for office tasks during working hours and use it for gaming in the evening. But I often don't use the monitor for longer periods of time during work when I'm on the phone or so. Would it work to have the monitor turn off after 10 min of inactivity to prevent burn-in or do OLEDs no like being shut off and on frequently during the day?
Nice review. Thank you.
Hey Tim, could you please consider making the "more advanced calibration guide using Calman" you mentioned in the "How to calibrate your monitor" video on HUB? Thanks in advance!
should we expect review on new Samsung oleds?
I heard we're getting 27"' 4k gaming oleds next year. So I'm gonna wait. All about that DPI.
Monitors unboxed is great with coffee in the morning. What would you recommend given all the 4K monitors for best VRR?
never bought the ucdm because the glossy screen was impossible to use in my situation, happy to see there's a matte version now
Have they not got the coatings the wrong way around?
What I mean is that, QD Oled reflects a purple colour, so, would that not be better to have a Matt finish to reduce this rather than glossy, and the WOled reflects black, so, could support a glossy screen better?
Damn how much I want a 240hz/360hz with bfi working at those hz it would be so fricking amazing
Would you be able to run your suite of test on an S95D or C? I know you don't do TV's but I would love to see how the best TV QD-OLED panel compares to what we are getting in our monitors.
Great review!
Monitor technology is growing so excitingly, hopefully the price will come down fast for us regular users to approach easier later 😊
Was gonna wait for this model, but I pulled the trigger on the LG model since I got it for $980 brand new after discount, I occasionally use the built in speakers and wouldn’t use any of the features Asus has added, albeit they are good additions. I also calibrated my display myself so that’s a non issue.
Safe to say I made the right call, fortunately.
how do you calibrate with software or on hardware level?
@@whatsuphelp I used a spectrophotometer from x-rite. I would suggest using a more reasonable colorimeter though, much cheaper, I would’ve opted for that, but my friend lent me his.
What discount did you get
Any plans to review any of the KTC brand monitors flooding Amazon right now? Their price makes them very attractive.
i never comment basicly because i have nothing to say :D but now i have to greetz you for your wonderfull work !so take my comment bro !
I'm debating if to get this one or the 32ucdm, I do play fps games but I'm mostly play rpgs like diablo 4 and starfield and some racing games I don't play competively on a fps game just casual, which one is worth it?
please review some of the INNOCN mini-LED monitors. They look interesting.
nice review!!!!! congrats and thanks =D
If this was glossy, this would have been my choice.. Even though I would like to try out glossy vs matte myself. But when paying so much for an oled monitor i would like the full potential of oled to be apparent
Should I buy pg32ucdm or pg32ucdp? Which one is better and more forward-looking?
People say the matte finish on this is really bad. Can you comment on it?
Every time I watch these videos I forget that my Alienware ultrawide OLED being $800 when I bought it is the main reason it’s the best, because these prices are insane for what you’re getting.
ok, now we need a glossy woled panel and dual mode for 4k 240hz and 2k 360hz , that well make it the ultimate
The MSI MAG 321UP is only $799 right now (US). Food for thought.
This was Asus' chance to bring out a more future proof version of the PG32UCDM but they blew it by not giving it a Displayport 2.1 connection.
Unfortunately none of the current GFX cards out now have DP 2.1 supported at full bandwidth so i guess the monitor manufacturers have opted to release monitors that can use that full 80 Gbps when there's cards that can out put that rate.
It sucks but seems like they've gone for a more profitable product release than consumer centric.
im trying to decide between the PG32UCDP vs PG32UCDM
When do we get 5k? 240hz? or maybe a 8k by 5k ultrawide? i would gladly pay early adopter fee if it provided high quality to go along with the high price!
There is no PC that could run 240 frames at 8K lmao
Still no review of the 32 inch Samsung Odyssey OLED G8? It seems that since it is the only matte screen QD-OLED that it might have been something different to review.
Patience, it'll come
Waste of time reviewing it, send it into the trash where it belongs.
A 4K OLED display with a matte coating is a spectacularly dumb idea. What's the point of running 4K and bottlenecking the clarity with a haze/grain/blur filter on top of it.
@@Solus793
So you have it and are making these points based on personal experience?
@@Solus793 Because there are people that work/live in a room that has some actual sunlight instead of a dark basement with no windows.
i have g6 oled and destroys my TN VA IPS panels from past.. in motion clarity I can read blurbuster normal i see all lines from Blur busters by my eyes... Like is copy past :D It is not like he makes a video picture and u see how it looks no, it looks more clear with eyes. It has VRR control it means 0 flickers with VRR on very little input lag u get with vrr on and control on. My g7 had with Vrr ON And control VRR on 17msec.. with hdr... And in day you can use it normal there is no lights on monitor and Keyboard and pc is rgb no seeing lights from rgb on screen or anything. matte its more matter than my G7 it looks really black at day.
You skipped over in little detail the most important difference between the ASUS and LG model imo which is the duel mode for competitive gaming.
How easy is it to switch, what options do you have, how easily is it to have a work machine vs gaming machine setup etc.
I WISH there was a place in the UK where I could see both the UCDP and UCDM side by side because I'm torn.
I currently have a matte 32" 4k monitor and it's perfect for my brighter room, but I REALLY want the glossy look but fear I could never truly appreciate it's looks due to the daylight.
It would be cool to get a table, with all oled matrices, to easily navigate the lineup. For example:
34" 3440x1440 175Hz = Glare QD OLED
26.5" 2560x1440 240Hz = Matt WOLED
26.5” 2560x1440 360Hz = Glare QD OLED
I ended up getting the Samsung g80sd 32. I do love the TV capabilities the only problem with it is an intermittently black screen that forces me to turn off Windows HDR and back on then it works fine. WIN ALT B does this quick. Hopefully Samsung will figure it out in a future firmware update. I would have loved to try this Asus monitor.
We need affordable OLED. No one really games at 4K and HDR is nice but the panel is way more important. If you could make a video about OLED monitors that are affordable or just give us an update, that would be nice :)
I have an older LG 32" VA monitor, G-Sync, Matte, non HDR, and I love it. I only game at a maximum of 85hz, but I'm really looking into OLED. Just not sure what I want to get
I bought PG32UCDM last week, in 3 days I sent it back... in my country it is around 1550 euros, in my opinion, the price is something of a rare shame for what it offers as a product; in a short time we will end up paying as much for a monitor as we would for a high-end PC... for this money, none of them are worth it, let's be serious, at this rate where will we end up?! Please think 10 times before purchasing such a product!!!
why u buy then and send it back ? U get 2 monitors for 1 price... cut in half and its very cheap.
@@MakeSh00t unfortunately after 1 month and a half I couldn’t test the monitor anywhere, plus, it was that when I realised how much the price is for an monitor when I had in front of me.
Ok, now I'm curious as to why you then purchased this product in the first place?
1550€ is definitely too much if you are not going to use it.
But 1500€ is cheap compared to the only real 32” 4K 144Hz over 1000 nit HDR monitor two years ago. It was a heavy FALD panel with loud fan and 3000€ price. Now we get a better product (OLED, lower input lag, 144Hz->240Hz) at half the price.
I expect the price of similar monitors to again halve in another 2-3 years.
Can you review some mini led monitors please
The "Matte Coating" doesn't bother me, I think people trick themselves into thinking its actually such a big deal, thinking TV's and monitors are one in the same. I've been using so called Matte LCD monitors for decades...and it was never a problem. Even less when used with an OLED level panel.
When you're comparing the brightness to the qd-oled version of this monitor, which mode did you have the qd-oled set to? You don't have that listed which could be misleading.
Gotta say, the PG32UCDP/M and FO32U2P are the 3 main options for me. 321URX is sold out, Dell doesn't have DP Alt, LG and Samsung don't have USB-C at all and the cheaper AORUS has only 18W PD. But €1520-1699 for ASUS vs. €1430 for Gigabyte (what both cost for me) is hard for ASUS. I like all three tho...
video design feed back. As you transition from feature to feature can you keep the same type on the same side of the video? An example would be moving from the up close pixel configuration @4:27 with QD on the left and W on the right to font clarity @4:46 with the W on the left and QD on the right.
Thank you in advance
Very interesting that you mentioned the 1 to 1 pixel mapping at 16", it sounds interesting if Asus can fix it.
Do you think they will drop a glossy version of this by the end of the year? That would be big seller.
I wish but probably not
Have u tried one ot the matte WOLEDs? I have both types of WOLED here and prefer the matte one...
@@nKrandom I can’t with the coating grain on matte. It’s way too distracting. Also I prefer QD OLED panels
@@Cubs0209 sure. If u want burn-in get a QD-OLED. 🤗
@@nKrandom I have a WOLED tv which is glossy and a QDOLED monitor so Ive been spoiled by glossy. But that being said Ive never actually seen the WOLED matte in person. It could grow on me. I gotta see if the best buy near me has it on display to check it out.
did you create an HDR profile in windows first, using the HDR calibration app?
Great job sir
I'm always checking the prices of these monitors but it seems that we are going to need several months to see something interesting below USD 900 - 800 or less
13:50 I guess the BFI feature at 120hz would be useful if you connect a console to the monitor since the frame rate there is 120 fps? Or am I missing something? The 240hz image is of the pc running at 240 fps for blur busters. I guess if the monitor were at 240hz, but the pc was sending only 120 fps, maybe it would look worse. So BFI at the source frame rate improves clarity possibly in this case.
You reviewed Alienware AW2725DF and called it the "best gaming monitor" but for some reason it never appears in benchmark tables for people to compare products... It's not like there's a lack of space here either...
The LG 32GS95UE has received a firmware update since your last review. Can you do a revisit?
1440p 480hz waiting room
Would this be better then a 4k LG OLED C1? Im on the edge of getting this i just am not sure. My C1 already has burn in from desktop folders which is oversight i forgot. Though i disabled taskbar i forgot those folders are bright and they burned in and some times are now distracting in certain scenes of gameplay. Its definitely higher price but the dual mode is just wild to me. Hope more of this comes in the future with much higher HDR brightness. We should be peaking at 4-10k nits.
I wonder if using the 1080p mode, then use DLDSR to bring that up to 4k will give you 4k quality while still benefiting from the higher refresh rate.
If it’s anything like the lg panel that would be impossible.
I am very intrested Gigabyte's new Oled model FO32 inch. Finally i can actually consider buying, even tho it's still really expensive. I was just completely priced out from oleds
Is a matte finish much worse than glossy if the room is dark?
It’s not much worse, basically glossy looks better than matte but it’s not a huge difference. Matte is just focused on if you game in bright areas. But it’s not a huge difference like I said so it shouldn’t be a deal breaker
It’s Asus, it has to be the best. Presumably with awesome HDR just like the PG27AQDM and the PG42UQ. Not even mentioning the legendary customer service.
Can you test any portable monitor options for gaming ?
hey mate, would this black frame insertion help combat burn in?
Im good with my lg, I can’t fuck with that stand or the annoying rgb lighting, one thing is to have it on the back where it’s barely visible and another is having it all in your face
When will the monitor be available for purchase? Europe
What are going to be the next OLED Productivity Displays going to be launched this year? I won't have a problem with burn in but I really have no need for 240hz. 120 or 144 is completely sufficient.
Are the Samsung Gen 3 Oleds the best option right now (I just like OLED more than VA / IPS even though it's not perfect for productivity but I don't mind.)
Micro LED would be fine as well though. I want a nice black.
The very few of us that use Tobii eye tracking have to somehow convince Asus that Tobii is fren and they need stop putting their controls bottom center so we can stick our eye tracking there.
I’ll wait for display port 2.0 full bandwidth monitors…. DSC stream compression takes away from quality in fast movement. I don’t want compression even if they claim lossless