Honda Civic Type R battle: EP3 & FN2 take on the 2015 car

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  • Опубліковано 1 жов 2015
  • The Honda Civic Type R is a hot hatch icon with a cult following. So, with the new model arriving recently, Rebecca Chaplin gathered together its two predecessors to see how it has changed over the years.
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  • @longtailgt
    @longtailgt 8 років тому +227

    The EP3 is not the mk1. Its the mk2. And the FN2 is the mk3. The first is the EK9, which never sold outside of Japan officially. Looks like you really need to do some research.

    • @iPhone3GSCase
      @iPhone3GSCase 8 років тому +63

      Well if you listen to the video she clearly says the first type r to come to Europe, not first type r ever so stfu

    • @longtailgt
      @longtailgt 8 років тому +10

      She says Mark 1. You idiot.

    • @simonrobinson2794
      @simonrobinson2794 8 років тому +1

      +LongtailGT Not to mention quotes like it feels powerful, fast and secure... Really, its a Type R we know that already. Where are these people coming from? Wheres Steven Sutcliffe?

    • @iPhone3GSCase
      @iPhone3GSCase 8 років тому +1

      ***** 0:30 m8

    • @socberttrucker3598
      @socberttrucker3598 8 років тому +12

      +LongtailGT she said in the video firsts to come to europe, not first one. actually watch the video rather then ust post a comment.

  • @frenzythebeast
    @frenzythebeast 7 років тому +35

    She said Type R's in EUROPE. Of course she isnt gonna mention the EK9

  • @ihavenousername1805
    @ihavenousername1805 8 років тому +14

    1:27 - 'you can really push it into the corners' *drives 1/2 mile away from the apex*

  • @GT6SuzukaTimeTrials
    @GT6SuzukaTimeTrials 8 років тому +11

    EP3 is still my favorite Civic Type R of all time. The EK is pretty cool with its B16B but I just love the K20.

  • @future62
    @future62 8 років тому +95

    Wasn't feeling this review. Lot of details didn't make sense. Sit low in the EP3? Lol. She didn't really push the cars much either. Was this the channel Steve Sutcliffe was on? IDK man.

    • @cz9860
      @cz9860 8 років тому +3

      +future62 i just found a lack of enthusiasm for what could have been a good video

    • @israelsinger7045
      @israelsinger7045 8 років тому +2

      +future62 Nah Steve Sutcliffe is AUTOCAR. And I agree this review was crap. She's so scripted and awkward.

    • @surom123
      @surom123 8 років тому +1

      Sutcliffe is at autoexpress now! However I was hoping he was doing this video too

    • @israelsinger7045
      @israelsinger7045 8 років тому

      Really? I kinda feel like that's a bit of a downgrade though. To me AutoExpress isn't as interesting or on par quality-wise with their vids. That's a shame.....he betrayed his own!! haha

    • @DaveDoc1984
      @DaveDoc1984 8 років тому

      +future62 Yeah plus Hard Ride in the EP3? Its a LOT softer than the FN2 and even to some degree the new FK2. I don't think she knew what she was on about!

  • @christosswc
    @christosswc 8 років тому +40

    The new car was not 50% quicker, more like around 30%.
    The old ones were 50% slower.
    To be 50% quicker it would have to do 2.9secs.

    • @nikb6528
      @nikb6528 8 років тому +3

      agreed lol. She wasn't best at maths in school it seems

    • @christosswc
      @christosswc 8 років тому +4

      Yeah, I do not want to come out sounding like I'm nit picking and I never correct people on grammar errors but if the math is wrong then,well, I can't turn a blind eye to that lol.
      It is a very common mistake though and an easy trap to fall into.

    • @nikb6528
      @nikb6528 8 років тому

      Christos Segkounas I like to correct people that are doing grammar mistakes as well, though. Lol. But this was just purely retarded mistake that might be easy to fall for, but doing a review and comparing specs you cannot get it wrong.

    • @Ultradubmarine
      @Ultradubmarine 8 років тому

      +Christos Segkounas get a girl friend

    • @nikb6528
      @nikb6528 8 років тому

      matt smith what does being able to calculate in percents got to do with relationships. Wtf, I guess you're butthurt cause you didn't know that she was wrong

  • @scanspeak00
    @scanspeak00 8 років тому +78

    No offence to the presenter but I'm getting tired of producers pushing women into car reviews. Most just lack any credibility.

  • @alphatrion100
    @alphatrion100 Рік тому +3

    I LOVE how the fn2 looks

  • @997speedy
    @997speedy 8 років тому +63

    please restore the quality of videos that earned you the 288,000 subscribers in the first place!

    • @Bula
      @Bula 8 років тому +13

      +997speedy Agreed! What is this shit?

    • @touchtronik
      @touchtronik 8 років тому +4

      come on man autoexpress been poor for some time now, even autocar is getting worse surprisingly motortrend has got much better. best channels are Chris Harris on cars, evotv and Harrys garage.

  • @williepitman
    @williepitman 8 років тому +129

    She's not the best at reviews

    • @DethThrasher1
      @DethThrasher1 8 років тому

      +William P eh i blame the editing for the most part, its abysmal

    • @audiwankenobi361
      @audiwankenobi361 8 років тому

      Hey!...a south floridian!...and a fellow driver!?...I drive from Holly Hill to Boca Raton making my deliveries,even into Lake Worth on Sundays and Thursdays only!...what a coincidence.

    • @audiwankenobi361
      @audiwankenobi361 8 років тому

      Riiiight Eric....you haven't examined my profile have you?...well if you wanna get stupid then I'm all in,LET'S GO!

    • @Viralbutnotyet
      @Viralbutnotyet 8 років тому +1

      Audiwan Kenobi aint nobody got time fo dat

    • @audiwankenobi361
      @audiwankenobi361 8 років тому

      I deleted my last comment because in reality I got mad respect for your ride...I ain't gonna trash talk with you because I can clearly see that you have passion for what you're doing......I also have a 2008 Acura MDX...you have alot of pictures and I can't deny that you care about your car....I stand down...

  • @ArnelZapataJr
    @ArnelZapataJr 8 років тому +4

    I just can't get over how it looks like a Prius with a massive spoiler on the back...

  • @lordyboyo
    @lordyboyo 8 років тому +9

    they should of done an acceleration test with the ep3 and fn2 when in vtech

  • @AccordGTR
    @AccordGTR 8 років тому +4

    I think the best CTR was the EK9. It was lighter by about 200 kg and had better handling and steering with its double wishbone suspension. Sure it wasn't much stock compared to these newer models but modified with a Spoon 1.8 engine and racing suspension it will probably lap faster than the newer Type R's

  • @larnelleolkers3914
    @larnelleolkers3914 7 років тому +73

    This is a bad review, the "original" type R is the EK9.
    therefore there are 4 generations not 3

    • @nuclearbeaver96
      @nuclearbeaver96 7 років тому +20

      The ek9 was never sold in Europe/uk and had to be imported. So the ep3 was actually the original type -r in the uk

    • @larnelleolkers3914
      @larnelleolkers3914 7 років тому +12

      +Rhys Page (Widebeam70) irrespective of the review you have to acknowledge all generations

    • @nuclearbeaver96
      @nuclearbeaver96 7 років тому +1

      Larnelle Olkers true

    • @GuyI9000
      @GuyI9000 7 років тому +24

      she said, first to legally come to europe. shes right

    • @dannymondesir5055
      @dannymondesir5055 7 років тому +2

      Rebel Rhymes i never listen to what a woman has to say about cars but yh fn2 is more comfortable but ep3 is still a better type R as u feel the road more and better at corners in my opinion.

  • @mrk2ovtec
    @mrk2ovtec 8 років тому +33

    Jesus Christ, this review gave me heart burn.

  • @CageyJ0nnY
    @CageyJ0nnY 8 років тому +35

    The markIII has an unfortunate number plate....

    • @PerformanceY
      @PerformanceY 8 років тому +1

      lol Obey to VXR !

    • @Danial0152
      @Danial0152 8 років тому

      +Jonathan Jennings Lol true and the mark 2's number plate looks like it says REHAB lol

  • @kyblckwd246
    @kyblckwd246 6 років тому +4

    Doesn't matter if the new ones are faster. The ep3 was the best civic in my opinion and I prefer older ones such as the eg6 and ek9 over the modern civics.

  • @michaelgoodwin593
    @michaelgoodwin593 8 років тому +5

    And the original? What about the EK9?

  • @PapaHett
    @PapaHett 8 років тому +4

    "It feels super sporty" talking about the EP3.. I turned it off there.

  • @antreasantreoy
    @antreasantreoy 8 років тому

    can you get your words right pls ? is mk3 eudm civic typeR because there is also the ek9 the 1st gen civic typeR and the fd2 civic typer that run with the fn2 in the same year

  • @LostTraction
    @LostTraction 8 років тому +2

    Great story about TYP R !!!

  • @djchris.anderson
    @djchris.anderson 8 років тому

    good video but what happened to the ek9 type r

  • @1981robbo
    @1981robbo 8 років тому

    Ek9 is mk1. Any research involved in making this? Ep3 is quicker than fn2 , ek9 quicker to 60 than both

  • @jamesbagguley868
    @jamesbagguley868 8 років тому

    Reckon it makes more sense to drop a couple of G's into my 7th gen and keep the fun engaging element while upping performance to compete with the newer models.

  • @Channy132
    @Channy132 8 років тому +3

    I was hoping for a proper comparison with the 3 cars being driven in anger like they were designed to do.....

  • @christinaeder9886
    @christinaeder9886 8 років тому

    Looks interesxing. H i0 scattered young What's your opinion about thft ...

  • @haydengoucher1124
    @haydengoucher1124 6 років тому

    How do you work that Bluetooth in the ep3 I have that same one ? Anyone help me :)

  • @abunaiN1
    @abunaiN1 8 років тому

    hey where is the ek9 civic type r ?
    i bet is the best n/a civic type r.

  • @playbackvintagehifihunter9669
    @playbackvintagehifihunter9669 2 роки тому

    How about mentioning the turbo lag? Under 2500rpm, it takes about 1.5/2secs for it to spool up. Its a fun killer when I was driving the new Type R.

    • @user-bh6zt1it2l
      @user-bh6zt1it2l 9 місяців тому

      There’s no one home under 5k in the older ones though🤣

  • @rextetron
    @rextetron 8 років тому

    Wow...what a comparison!

  • @ThePinoyMamba
    @ThePinoyMamba 8 років тому

    I love it whenever she Changes gears...

  • @chrismartin5196
    @chrismartin5196 7 років тому +1

    EP3 original? Am I hearing things?

  • @adamstratford6740
    @adamstratford6740 8 років тому

    the new 2015 civic type r looks awesome it has alot to live up too hope it is as good as there saying

  • @georgefall5
    @georgefall5 8 років тому

    What happened to the EK?

  • @jamessmith84240
    @jamessmith84240 8 років тому +3

    Should still be in first gear at 20mph ;)

  • @wingmangt
    @wingmangt 8 років тому +2

    The Original was EK9 :/ It would have been nice to include it even though its rare.

  • @bryancheunguson4606
    @bryancheunguson4606 3 роки тому

    where is this place?

  • @FrightfulAccountant
    @FrightfulAccountant 8 років тому +1

    I can be very short about this: I like all 3 of them ;)

  • @207Richy
    @207Richy 8 років тому

    Not seen one on the roads yet. I wish they got input from Honda engineers that worked on the nsx type-r. That exhaust would be gone for a start.

  • @Firemarioflower
    @Firemarioflower 11 місяців тому

    "That doesn't mean we can't get enough of the classics." So you soon had enough of it?

  • @Hegovii
    @Hegovii 7 років тому +1

    can someone tell me: whats the difference between the EP3 and the FN2? Ill appreciate it..

    • @jamesbaggaley1460
      @jamesbaggaley1460 7 років тому

      Hegovii The EP3 is widely considered to be the better car from a dynamic perspective as it has fully independent multi-link rear suspension) compared to the more simple and less effective torsion beam setup on the FN2) as well as being 60kg lighter. They both had basically the same K20 engine, slightly updated in the FN2, but with very similar outputs.

    • @dannymondesir5055
      @dannymondesir5055 7 років тому +1

      James Baggaley correct! ep3 has k20a2 and fn2 has basically the same engine like u said but twicked a little and named it k20z4😀

  • @Skuter935
    @Skuter935 8 років тому

    I actually liked the review, I thought she refred to EP3 as MK1 in Europe not as MK1 overall, but oh well and that is true first ever type R was EK 9 from my knowledge :)

  • @konholio2
    @konholio2 8 років тому

    Way to go, never thought Id watch a boring video about CTR :)
    also get a freaking EK9 if you are going to compare older models

  • @alfamonk
    @alfamonk 8 років тому

    well i enjoyed it. Not as much depth as some but an interesting take on each car.

  • @FrightfulAccountant
    @FrightfulAccountant 8 років тому

    Hmm, now we have a fast 5 doors, what about putting it next to the good old (and a bit forgotten) Civic MB6 1.8 VTi. I wonder how the 90s Golf GTi 16v killer will come out of this confrontation :p

  • @NSURIACANT
    @NSURIACANT 8 років тому

    LOL at the new CTR's number plate = VXR

  • @connormullen6323
    @connormullen6323 8 років тому

    wasnt the ek9 sold in the uk ? if so this girls cluless

  • @chrisdooley6468
    @chrisdooley6468 8 років тому +1

    Why compare 20-60 times instead of 0-60 I wonder? I felt this could've been a great comparison if they were a bit more thorough

  • @rustler08
    @rustler08 8 років тому +2

    Only Honda kids would brag about "feeling the road" while being in a slow-ass car. Congrats on having nice feel while both running a 14-15 second quarter mile, if they're lucky, and being super slow around a circuit.

    • @CoolCoolPancakes
      @CoolCoolPancakes 5 років тому

      rustler08 having fun is more important than pure speed, sure you can brag about having a fast lap time, but at the end of the day you’re gonna be sad that your car doesn’t have what cars are meant to do, feel the road

    • @Bradleyeg6
      @Bradleyeg6 4 роки тому

      @@CoolCoolPancakes Literally don't know where she plucked that from. You can certainly feel the road in the FK2 in comparison of having a EG6, EP3 & DC5 the FK2 i just leagues ahead in every department.

  • @nickcobra4638
    @nickcobra4638 8 років тому

    The original had the nicest shape, but the new one has the best design features like the front facia and rear spoiler

  • @jordansmith8178
    @jordansmith8178 8 років тому

    Ep3 original?

  • @dannyboyptm13
    @dannyboyptm13 8 років тому +1

    would have been nice if the ek9r was there

  • @tenti1524
    @tenti1524 8 років тому

    I hate the back wheel arches on the new type R the rear wheels just look like they dont fill the arches enough , maybe a lower the offset on a nice set of concave alloys would improve this but stock it just looks wierd

  • @NjoyMoney
    @NjoyMoney 6 років тому

    original the Ep3? How about Ek9? :D

  • @heinzkaters
    @heinzkaters 8 років тому

    Why not use the FN2 with LSD for comparing the three?

  • @Trapper745
    @Trapper745 8 років тому +1

    gotta love the number plate on the new one lol that aint a vauxhall

  • @andy00grant
    @andy00grant 8 років тому

    new type-r with a registration plate VXR got to have a chuckle at that

    • @stefangaraidh157
      @stefangaraidh157 8 років тому

      Why?

    • @DaveDoc1984
      @DaveDoc1984 8 років тому

      +Stefan Garaidh Because the VXR from Vauxhall is one of its biggest competitors!

  • @andrewdetenon8305
    @andrewdetenon8305 8 років тому

    But the ek9 is the original ctr?

  • @Stepea-vg4zk
    @Stepea-vg4zk 2 роки тому

    Pretty happy with my FN2

  • @Mazotheman
    @Mazotheman 8 років тому

    I have a -08 1.8 vtec sport. Would love to get a Type-R. Its not much more expensive, but Im afraid the suspension would be too hard for the shitty roads in my coutry :/ If only you could get Type-R with comfort suspension :D

  • @jakubtomkow3283
    @jakubtomkow3283 5 років тому

    The funy thing is, you cannot break by left foot in new Type-r because it will cut off the turbo ;)

  • @FiredEmpire
    @FiredEmpire 8 років тому

    That type-R red 'H' badge on black body + black rims looks sexy and menacing as fuck!!!!!!!!!

  • @nikb6528
    @nikb6528 8 років тому

    It looks brutal in black the new one!

  • @n9athan
    @n9athan 8 років тому

    Europe missed out on the Ek9 type R too? now I don't feel so left out in the US haha.

    • @lloydee1983
      @lloydee1983 8 років тому

      Still quite a few over here though

  • @01dirtmonkey
    @01dirtmonkey 6 років тому +1

    What about the ek9

  • @logant5748
    @logant5748 8 років тому

    the ek9 was the first CTR and it was the best CTR until the new one came out

  • @deet4895
    @deet4895 8 років тому

    So i have one question, Where is the FD2 Civic Type-R? it was simply the best Civic Type-R of all time until this all new FK2 came out, but yet i still haven't seen a review or comparison of the two. Why?

    • @koopatroopa187
      @koopatroopa187 8 років тому

      +Dee T The FD2 is only sold in Japan and Malaysia.

    • @deet4895
      @deet4895 8 років тому

      +koopatroopa187 I'm aware of that, but I'm pretty sure Fd2 type-R's are in the United kingdom so I don't care whether or not it was not sold in that country there's example of them cursing Uk roads and therefore should have been included in this comparison, you can't act as if it doesn't exist.

    • @koopatroopa187
      @koopatroopa187 8 років тому

      Dee T Grey market imports don't count.

    • @deet4895
      @deet4895 8 років тому

      i see where your coming from, but at the end of the day the Grey imports or always better, in the cases of the EP3 & FD2 the JDM version of the EP3 was a faster more hardcore track focus car than its UKDM variant and has for the FD2 & FN2 the FN2 add no chance in hell.

    • @koopatroopa187
      @koopatroopa187 8 років тому

      Dee T And at the end of the day, grey markets still don't count for official correspondence since they were never officially sold in the country. Regardless if they're better or not.

  • @dewayne51
    @dewayne51 8 років тому +3

    they got the wrong Rebecca

  • @RixisLV
    @RixisLV 8 років тому +1

    They could find also EK9 for test..
    And EDM version of EP3 also was softer, less powerfull etc. than JDM equivalent..
    ehh..Japan always have the best for themselves..

  • @alexlam24
    @alexlam24 8 років тому

    Would have been cool to see the FD2

  • @voilemontagne
    @voilemontagne 8 років тому

    wait? no laptimes?

  • @DjDanThaLoco
    @DjDanThaLoco 8 років тому +2

    There aren't a few things right.... For example the ep3 is a little bit faster as the fn2 and it weights less. It's also faster as the fn2 in Corners! One of the differences between the fn2 and the ep3 is also that it has 201hp an the ep3 200hp, for expample. But the Ep3 stills one of the nices Type R's yet. I tested also the 2015 model a on the circuit a few months ago and I was't as much impressed by 310hp 400Nm. I found there's something missing and I guess that's the agressivity from the vtec up to 9500 rpms from the older versions.... everyone has his own opinions, please feel free to comment.

    • @Computercontrolled87
      @Computercontrolled87 6 років тому

      I Agree with you FN2 is slower than a Ep3

    • @ryanh438
      @ryanh438 4 місяці тому

      Although you left your comment long you are completely wrong. The fn2 weighs about 40 kilos more but made up for it with a more stiff suspension and chasis.. The acceleration favours the fn2 due to its shorter gearing. Honda is not going to make a new Type R unless it handles better and is faster in a straight line then its predecessor. I know Ep3 heads cannot handle that the Fn2 is even better at the one thing the ep3 is supposedly better lol.

    • @ryanh438
      @ryanh438 4 місяці тому

      @@Computercontrolled87 Doesnt matter what you think. You are wrong

  • @Stiribiners
    @Stiribiners 8 років тому +2

    What's the point of filming these 3 cars and not doing any accelerations to show us? No race or real racing drive was seen in this video...U can do better Auto Express

  • @nikb6528
    @nikb6528 8 років тому +1

    how come that 4s against 5,7s is 50% quicker? She could've said that the older one is almost 50% slower, though.

  • @musshwins412
    @musshwins412 8 років тому

    ok lets turbo my k20a type r ep3 and do this test again.let us not forget that the ep3 engine is almost 10 years old and it was just .1 slower than that fn2. incredible engine.

  • @DualShockTree
    @DualShockTree 7 років тому

    the EP3 isn't the original Type R Civic, that title belongs to the EK9. yes i know you had to import them but still, you should get your facts right

  • @jimvest
    @jimvest 8 років тому

    that acceleration test was pointles, of course the new car with the turbo would win. They should have do some sort of endurance test and compare which one would be closest to a racecar.

  • @darringoodbrand6603
    @darringoodbrand6603 7 років тому

    like the new civic type r but if turbocharged the old style and see what happens look at the 1.6vti turboed the car is a beast

  • @johnjackson12
    @johnjackson12 8 років тому

    20-60mph test in 2nd gear, what a surprise the new ones faster.... Even back in the day nobody did those kind of tests because it would of got beat by most of its competition. Instead do a max speed blast down a B road and see how they compare because i bet the old Type R would be more fun pinging off the limiter and screeching tyres round corners!

  • @chrisstickland7993
    @chrisstickland7993 8 років тому

    love the new type r but I just don't think it justifies the price

  • @arthurdesmet8788
    @arthurdesmet8788 8 років тому +2

    What's up, yo? It's really amazing value farm What do you think, guys... !!

  • @HONDATA24
    @HONDATA24 8 років тому

    3 type r.thats a dream.

  • @max035
    @max035 7 років тому

    The ek9 was the first type r so they were the 2nd 3rd and 4th generations

  • @MrStamford78
    @MrStamford78 8 років тому

    The ep3 is the most pure type r here. A couple of grand on breather mods and k pro remap will then compete with the fk2 civic.

  • @somathkid
    @somathkid 8 років тому

    Only 3 Type-R's? There's more than that...

  • @sphession
    @sphession 8 років тому

    The one time she doesn't do a dumb drag race, when it'd actually be interesting! really hope this was and ad for Honda, learned nothing I didn't already know.

  • @oshiboriten4207
    @oshiboriten4207 8 років тому

    Ek9 is my personal favorite

  • @robz1471
    @robz1471 8 років тому

    was really looking forward to this review, but she go over 20mph??

  • @TassieLorenzo
    @TassieLorenzo 8 років тому

    This is not going to go well for the FN2.... The FK2R should really be compared to the FD2R... The FK2 should be faster, but would it be more ***fun*** than the FD2R -- the previous ultimate civic type r?

  • @JaySee5
    @JaySee5 8 років тому +2

    Yet another review that doesn't highlight the glaring stupidity in the new CTR: it has a useless dual exhaust that adds weight for no purpose. This goes completely against the lightweight utility meaning of the Type R badge. Honda used to try and save every last gram as shown by the shifter boot of the NSX Type R.

  • @SixCommunists
    @SixCommunists 8 років тому

    Never understood the appeal of the EP3, considering the previous models were more affordable and are even more so today, I could think of so many more cars I'd rather spend my money on than the EP3 it's reaching the ridiculous A45 AMG in terms of price in its class

  • @EUSKADIMOTOR
    @EUSKADIMOTOR 7 років тому

    EP original Type R?
    And the EK? 😅😂

  • @iantownsend5480
    @iantownsend5480 8 років тому

    Big fan of the new Type R. Can't wait for a head to head against the Focus RS

    • @supercooled
      @supercooled 8 років тому

      head and tail because I assure you the type r will be looking at its tail.

  • @secondchance4498
    @secondchance4498 8 років тому +23

    Like the new girl, like the review, like the fact we get free videos but hate the fact knob heads can comment.

    • @audiwankenobi361
      @audiwankenobi361 8 років тому +1

      Ouch!...what a way to issue a verbal smack down!

    • @mikeywwp
      @mikeywwp 8 років тому

      ur a knob

    • @yipzone
      @yipzone 8 років тому +2

      +Second Chance I agree with you mate ;)

    • @rebelpoxy
      @rebelpoxy 8 років тому

      Agree with the knobheads. I don't want to sound one, but dude, when someone claims that 4 seconds is 50% faster than 5 seconds, their credibility is to be questioned. Like this lady.

  • @jamescarlgonzales2789
    @jamescarlgonzales2789 4 роки тому

    Why does eu have a different look when it comes to civics compared to the us or asian countries?

  • @DarkCloud983
    @DarkCloud983 8 років тому

    Just give the cars to Stig, James, Richard and Jeremy or Keiichi Tsuchiya....and please, send this woman into a shopping center...

  • @ismacompadre1812
    @ismacompadre1812 8 років тому

    That extra acceleration is not "because of the turbo", but because of the ONE HUNDRED EXTRA BHP. Of coure the Turbo has something to say there, but its not the point

  • @Gio015
    @Gio015 8 років тому +5

    With this three cars the producers could have done more, it is quite boring, do a race with the three cars, with the cars sound!!!! we want to hear the engines roarr! more action less bla bla bla

  • @GTAgamesfans
    @GTAgamesfans 8 років тому

    Bring the FD2R please.

  • @codydouglass1430
    @codydouglass1430 8 років тому

    where is the ek9 type R? Ep3 & fn2 have nothing on the little b16!