Honda Civic Type R generations DRAG & ROLLING RACE, BRAKE TEST and review | Head2Head
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- Опубліковано 19 січ 2018
- Type R: Honda's performance moniker has sat on the nose of some truly spectacular hot hatches. But which is fastest, and which is the best? To celebrate Type R's 30th birthday, I assembled every Civic Type R officially sold in the UK to find out.
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9:49 that was E P I C
The Gear Shift 9:36
He made it slide so easy
Back end slides around a lot with this car. For being front wheel car it's not understeer-y.
totally true!!! Mat Watson is a superb driver!!!
Glad this is a top comment
Civic spelled backwords is civic.
Mind = Blown 💥
Never thought of that actually
Vlad Mihai When spelled backwards...
Civic = Civic
Racecar = Racecar
So,
Civic = Racecar
Palindromes boi
The first man to land on the moon was Neil Armstrong.
Neil A spelt backwards is Alien.
Bet you never though of that ;)
Matt: EP3 is the original Civic Type-R
EK9: Am I a joke to you?
true
EG6: Am I a joke to you?
@@AssettoRacerGR EG6 isn't a Type R dude
The EP3 made a huge splash in the UK. Like America is enjoying the latest generation. Which we went crazy for! Even though I think it's just too tech dependent, and the platform is heavy. Side airbags, variable suspension, etc. Imagine the latest Type R in a EP3 or EK hatch. It'd be so crazy, and fast
He was comparing UK Type Rs.
9.50 when the ep3 goes sideways just wins my heart
Ameel Shahzad cdst
Lift off oversteer is losers.
Spoiler : the civic won
OMG how did you guess
Oh, fahk. Then I won't need to watch!
Florian Gim. Damn I was hoping the Civic won..
More detailed spoiler: type R won
The civic with the spoiler won.
EP3 everyday, 17 years older and still going strong
Really nice
This needs to be redone with the EK9, FD2 and FD2RR for a real head to head comparison of a real JDM badge name
EG6
where in the world there is a type r eg6
EG6 was never a Type R, it's just become a popular shell to use for engine swaps and the like because it's such a decent chassis to work with... Minus the usual JDM rust on shells of that era...
@@Ka50BlackShark *_Shingo wants to know your location..._*
I dont think they can get a FD2RR which is limited to 300 units
Anyone else come here from watching Carwow’s ‘Cars we’ll miss’ (or what ever the title is)
Yeah.... we'll miss these ones 😥🤧
Yessir!
9:50 Best clip
Markkus Koitve the smile says it all
Yea :)
But can you do this? - FWD drifts
Matt is the type of guy that drifts FWD cars.
Markkus Koitve DEJA VU
Owned my EP3 since 2007, LOVE IT!!!
Has it been reliable? Might have one from tomorrow
The OG EK9 is still my favourite
A ricers dream
@@srp770 clearly you don't know shit
Mine is mugen
9:50 THE SUBTLE DRIFT KING FLEX!
2:01 V-tec yo!!!! 😂
😂😂😂
Lolol
7:12 also
His chinese soul speaks up 🤣🤣🤣
i see blue smoke on EP3 :)
FRONT DRIVE DORIFTO?!?! NANIIIIIIIIIIIIII?!!?!?!?
shingo would be proud
Zkybi He would
The EP3 is the lightest, the most mental and the original really but for every day… it’s the FN2 for me. It’s the best looking , the best interior design… love it. And the later ones are too over the top.
im also an fn2 fan im 22 so when i was like 13 i thought it wwas the coolest car ever
Have owned both the ep3r (jap spec) and fn2r (UK spec) love them both equally. If I could own both at the same time I'd make the ep3r a weekend track car and the fn2r a daily, as the ep3r lends itself better for track work with less weight and sharper handling and the fn2r naturally lends itself better to daily commuter with its much nicer interior. If I was asked to pick one over the other it would be a very tough choice
fn2 the best looking? you're joking, the fn2 is easily one of the ugliest civics ever, along with the fk2 and fk8
@@SeanWithaFada IYO
IDK why are European civics looks like a track built Prius from honda
Lu Luong That generation was way ahead in terms of design still looks new today
@@f181234 ok?
Because the second one is based on the Fit current generation platform. I would love to see an FD type r instead of that red fit on steroids.
@@rivahoff sure
Because Europeans only like hatches so they make the type r from the hatchback civics of the day.
CIVIC WON!!
CIVIC LOST!!!
Actually the Civic was faster than the Civic, so you're both wrong.
But I thought the civic won!?
rrrrrrrrrrrrrr I almost had you.
looool you guys are funny
Not gonna lie, the FN2 Mugen really surprised me that it did that well, wow well done.
That's what a n/a prepared k20 can do. They could have pushed those engines way more but they let people do their own builds. The sky is the limit with those engines.
It's the k20, it's such a good engine. Good for N/A or boost and theres plenty of aftermarket support for both sides.
Seriously? FN2 Mugen is like really hardcore one. That isn't surprised me at all. Look at that normal FN2 literally rubbish lost to EP3 on everything
@@radityaindera3442 it wins in being a better daily and more comfortable car. It's interior is way better than the ep3
@@radityaindera3442 it won the break test did you evan watch the video
9:40 gear shift is EPIC...🤣
what do you find so funny?
@@sem.6860 look at the gearbox😂🤣
Bro you can laugh but this is ultra comfortable 😉
@@mianriyaan2647 that's not the gearbox
@@mianriyaan2647 absolutely brilliant location!!
4:28 Suspension setup is so incredibly important to a car. The EK9 had double wishbone which is just unbeatable in feel. I had a EJ Coupe and the combination of all round double wishbone and hydraulic power steering made it one of the best cars I've ever had the pleasure to drive dynamically. Use of a multi link rear suspension is what made the Ford Focus the must have car when first released. Fully independent suspension is heavy, expensive and intrudes on cabin space/crumple zones but it's just unbeatable in terms of feedback, response and behaviour at the limit. If you want to make a decent car put it on a decent platform, quite simple really......
That mugen is no joke if you consider it lacks the turbo.
Its my favorite in the bunch.
Alongside its brother, the FD2 Mugen RR, they are just crazy machines.
AHMAD H. Ah i wish we got the mugen here in Australia. But we dont unfortunately.
My mate has done an engine swap instead. It has a k24 bore & the k20 top. He’s got the big wing & bumper to make it look like a mugen too. I gotta say, it goes hard for a n/a hot hatch. A real gem in todays performance car scene where everything is turboed
To be quite honest, my favourite Civic is the FN2. Yes, it’s not the best Civic, but really just looks so special to me. It was that very generation of the Civic that I led me to finding about Honda. It was my first Honda Civic ever to see in my block’s of flats yard. It wasn’t a Type R, but I was just adoring its futuristic looks. And the Mugen version just makes the FN2 the Type R it is supposed to be. The cherry on the cake
its the slowest
Same thinking as me
@@Twongz_does_anything Yet still more fun to drive than 90% of existing cars
Just bought an ep3 today as my second car. It’s so engaging to drive.. I love it
I will always have a soft spot for the EP3, I would gladly own another one
That launch on the mugen! Dam
Quazi83 I was amazed! Incredible
Wheres ek9 :(
Never sold in the UK
Rusted out in some junk yard probabaly lolll jk they actually sound awesome and is my fav outta all these shitters
ek9 type r seam welded from factory *drools*
They should of added all civics Si and type R would of been really kewl
john lee it was never sold in the UK not a lot of type rs were that's why there's so much missing
FK2 - the look of those LED lights are amazing.
1:57 this the reaction when people found out the true power of VTEC 🔥🤣🤣
Wowww that Mugen is a very very good machine for a NA!! =)
When you know the price for it, it really needs to be as good as you just see it !
For Honda don't ever think about money...
thats not even a Mugen RR
RR PLAN C but they only made 20
VTEC just kicked in, yo!
He said, "VTEC Yo!" Hahahaha! Is that in the owner's manual somewhere?
i love my ep3..seems like everything i watch that civic is best
2:02 Look at the amount of smoke piling out of that EP3 XD
blown head gasket xd
That's the nos
Oh shit 🚗💨 👀
@@SLAwroc that's oil mate
Vtec kick bro
Ep3 a lot of smoke when vtec kicks in...
just burning a bit of oil the gaskets on the way out
@@slonky821 oil is blue, that was white smoke, so head gasket is fucked all ready
Ep3 looks the sexiest and is
they woke up that dragon inside
If he thinks that FN2 is fast than my EM2 is a rocket
2:00. "AWWW that VTech Yo!"
I feel most reviewers of the type r completely miss the point of the vtec and the high revving and adrenaline pumping sounds.
Yes you can have a golf gti (yawn) which will be quicker, but realistically where can you use that in the modern world?
The vtec engine makes you want to change down a gear and nip round the corner a bit quicker than normal as it rewards the driver and makes you feel racey.
In the st or gti you do not get that.
You get propelled forward with a fake engine noise coming from the speakers or the noise pipes into the cabin.
Type r is more fun.
And more reliable
And Good Fuel Economy When You Want It
No Turbo to go wrong on the older NA cars is great, new ones well everyone else using them on new Hot Hatches but I'm happy with Older cars.
For all those saying where is the EK9, this is for you! EK9 was only released in Japan and this was an all UK CTR test. But just in case you insist, there is a video here in youtube done by Best Motoring in Japan. They compared stock ek9 vs stock ep3 and the EP3 won hands down. In fact the the JDM ep3 also out performed the DC5 and DC2 in that same test.
Alkhoholic and some are saying the ek9 is better then ep3 i just laugh
Just becuase the ek9 was slower doesnt mean the others were better lol. You just dont get it
GazRwood good point the ek9 might be funner too hondas may be slower then srts but they sure are more fun to drive
The JDM EP3 is much better then what the UK spec was, 16hp more had a LSD, Higher Redline, tighter gearing, stiffer chassis, it's basically a new car. thats better then the EK9 the UK spec EP3 was not better though.
The JDM EP3 is better because the ECU is set up with more power, thanks to JDM good fuels quality available! Also JDM S2k got 250 HP when the US AND EU got 240HP.
The FD2 is my favorite civic type r but it's not in this video
Since they are European that's why shape differs in it the first Civic he discussed is the one you were looking for it's hatchback
This video brought a tear to my eye... nothing to do with the cars but I've flown both the Vickers VC-10s in the background! Queen of the skies!
Mugen, sound and looks.
It’s epic.
Glad to see the old EP3 still does well against modern stuff!
As everyone else is asking, should have had an EK9 Type R, I think that one offers the purest Type R feel of all of them. I own an FK8 Type R, but now I really want an EK9 to add to the stable.
FlyinGato I see you Señor Gato. ☻
What up #Gatosquad
Definitely get an ek9 jdm 2nd gen dc2. Possibly a 90 xsi b16a da9. Da9 seems long but its definitely comfy, also 96 accord wagon with the f20b, we dont have those here in upstate Ny so i put one together with what i could. Swaps 1250$ and shell 700$ best car ever and good for a family
God Slayer King Yamcha awesome! Putting in some work to get that you want! 😁😁
Never find one have to replicate
My all time favourite Civic Type R: EP3
Love your work Matt.. My daily entertainment 2020 😉🙌🏾keep soldiering on...
Totally agree ep3 was and still is my favourite car I owned, I had the final edition ep3, still miss it to this day
Where's the EK9 ?
Gundeep Virdi they not officially sold in UK. So how?
Jandy Aditya Pratisto Use an import
heaps of them have been imported into the UK. just borrow one from someone. I'm willing to bet that at least one carwow viewer has one they would be happy to lend them.
They are probably all modified in one way or another. People willing to import a Honda aren't the type that keep them original.
Title should be civic type-R's of the millennium.
When i was in the UK we had an ‘06 top end model civic hatchback and man i loved that thing
Either Matt has the best reactions in the world or he jumps the start every time. He is always first to leave the line!
@Ken Healy watch again, only this time Pay attention to the person that is stood on the track moving their arms about
No ek9, no party
The EK9 was never officially sold in the UK :(
carwow i’ll have to let you off on this one then i suppose 🙄
Rq7 Yeah try to beat the K20A's with the B18..
Just looking at the line up you can tell it's the UK typer's only. Of course it's gonna be that one guy that says where's ek or Fd2 etc.... Read description at first or watch the video.😑
well yeah but b18 block
EP3 is the best looking
And best value for money🔥
Ep3 best looking?? New type r looks way cooler
Yes 15 years ago
The latest one looks like something that came out the back end of my cat
I read this as episode 3 is best looking 😂 repeated mistake
You’re right. When they moved on to that curvy egg shaped design of the FN2 it was a huge leap, and I’m not sure if I like how bulky it looks now...
im amazed at how equally matched they all are in a straight line, all good cars. love type r's. dads got a 297bhp at the wheels ep3 NA. its lively
What’s the engine spec of your dads Ep3?
297 to the wheels is what 350-/+ at fly, 297 to the fly is still a big ask for a n.a k series but doable
Don't forget the fact that hector is going to be running 3 of those civics with spoon engine with motec exhaust and he just went to Ray's and bought 100 tanks of nos
Amazing, amazing cars! Love this chanel!
I loved my ep3 that I had 13 years ago. It felt like you were starting up a spaceship.
Miss my old ep3 was a little weapon on the back roads and lots of fun
i just bought my EP3 yesterday, no it's not fast, but yes it's fun! and LOUD.
Thats a lot of RPM right there! Great video.
Been waiting so long for this video!! I didn't expect the Mugen to be so fast. But my favourite is the EP3. Looks the cleanest and is thenmost fun to drive.
It's so funny to see Mat loves the VTEC as well 😂
Awesome video Matt. What’s even closer to my heart is as a younger person than I am today 😂 I bought an EP3 Type R in cosmic grey like the one in this video. I also lost it cornering at high speed due to its playfulness and my unrealistic overconfidence in my driving ability. Gutted to say the least as it was an insurance write off. Thank Christ Honda sales rep suckered me into buying gap insurance with it!
THE SMOKE FROM EP3 😂
Armatura Records R.I.P oil
Gotta go fastt
Gotta stay on top of that oil level
Armatura Records my 2002 64k ep3 doesn’t burn a drop of oil, Mobil 1 since first oil change.
Jamie Stone it would be okay even if it did burn oil. All high revving NA motors will burn oil at some rate. AP1 S2000s burn a lot but that's the nature of the engine. Nothing wrong with it just gotta stay on top of it.
This is what I needed for after working on saturday
I would love to see a drone shot of the whole race along side the snippets from the different cars.
Totally agree on the ep3 being the best type r, i love mine even though i have had it for a few weeks.
Had one since new and still going strong after 140k Miles. Just always keep the Castrol edge topped up and you won’t go wrong. Never run on low oil or the chain can jump a cog. Change the timing chain and tensioner if you haven’t already as they ALL stretch and will throw your timing out a twitch. And that doesn’t always mean you’ll lose vtec. It won’t snap, but well worth replacing. Switch out the tyres for 215’s on original rims and you’ll find your wheels won’t spin up awfully like they do on standards in the wet. Can totally recommend Goodyear eagle assymetric 2 and 3’s for all year round tyres, superb in wet. Bulletproof otherwise. Enjoy
never clicked on a video so fast
Satrio Adji same mate
It's probably worth mentioning they only made 20 of Mugen Matt was driving. (not to be confused with the Mugen-200 which had the same 201bhp engine as the base FN2)
Great work man! Honda best of all....love the sound of the naturally aspirated engine but the fk8 is just out of competition
Totally agree with your choice for “funniest to drive “
Love the old civic
Totally agree. I used to drive an EP2 civic, which was the baby 1.6 vtec. Down on power but the handling and feel of the car was absolutely amazing; handled so well and effortlessly took on b roads!
Even the underrated D series engines are fabulous & better than many so-called better engines from other manufacturers.
Just fitted coilovers and poly bushes on my ep2 I love it aha
The EP3 looks the best cheap and sounds so good !
OMG he EP3 sounds amazing ,I'm watching this 2022 and I'm impressed of the EP3.
Lovely car
I own an EP3 Type-R and it's an absolutely amazing car
I would get the EP3 because you integrate in traffic so good
I prefer it's more understated looks. Newer ones are just ugly to boy racer.
Why is the normal FN2 heat gauge on low (4:24)?
Vtec wont work if temperature is low.
Might be broken?
@@xxpistonxx7923 hondas dont break
@@xxpistonxx7923 heat gauge broken in a 17k mile honda? Unlikely
Very good point,also they didn't turn the vsa off,vsa dampens the power if you put your foot down...
@@xxpistonxx7923 Putin did it
Had the ep3 great car loved how it drived apart from when it rained the back end would flip out! I now own a 08 plate FN2 with remap exhaust induction kit better suspension set up with new bushes and its a fantastic car pulls like a train on the motorway! And they are going up in value 😁😁
Slightly late but what induction did you go for? Have had my 2011 FN2 for few months now and was planning on few subtle mods, mainly the HKS induction for that real bark crossover
@@LOSTBHOY88 yeah i’m looking at getting one of them they sound brilliant
@@web_mtb have had mine on for couple months now and it’s night and day difference mate. Wasn’t expecting such a big sound difference but the bark and crossover is a lot lot louder which is just what I was looking for. Go for it well worth it. Make sure the heat shield is included as well 👍🏻
Fantastic review!
Hate it or love it, Type R is one of the best hot hatch ever exist
One of the slowest stock
Sonny you will never see one stock mostly riced
Sonny say that on the Nürnbergring....
Sorry dude..I think the Civic is a pretty good hatchback but the king is the VW Golf , idk if the golf is better on the track but it's the one who started this "hatchback game"
Nuhan Hidayat it is the best HH ever
All I was thinking for the whole vid is
“When the v-tec kicks in yo”
So original..
I have an FK2. I love it. But your right about the suspension...it is hard.
CarWow has changed so much!
Woooow i can't belive, my favorite honda civic is ep3 type R too
the brake test is so hopelessly inaccurate
It'll still give a general idea
my standar 1600 cc ek9 did 14.8 years ago. cracking car
My guess for stopping the quickest was the Fn2 Mugen. They all look good in my eyes Shame a EK9 isn’t there. The Ep3 is complete bargain and looks brilliant in cosmic Grey
what you mean when saying the ep3 is complete bargain? is it bad or good comment?
BoostedMuffin good comment. Complete bargain means it's a great deal. So much fun in a cheap package. Honda's Ep3 along with the ek9/DC5/DC2, Nissan's B13/B14/N15 are an absolute blast for a low price fwd car when properly modified.
oh okay, thanks :D i have learned in my english school (i am greek) that bargain is when you ask for lower price so i thought you said it as bad, but i later realised that you meant that its really good for its price
EP3 all day.
Nah, I had one for four years (35k miles done in it) and I've a FK2 now and not for a second would i swap it for a FK2,. The EP3 is still a great car though!
I agree, been driving an ep3 for 12 years. I like it better than my 02 Wrx. I’ve driven Wrx’s, sti’s, and Civic Si’s of all years and the ep just feels the best. Plus I love that it’s completely analog, no driver aids.
@Chad Andersen Is it worth buying as track car? I recently built a k24 block/k20 head into a CRX but that's a car that i will give dad for his birthday. What is the curb weight? It's also a k20a stock right? if i buy one it will get stripped out anyways for Stockcars/Dig race/roll races.
Yazeed Saber ek9
The ep3 for sure, i love my ep3 with a edm type r swap, 286k miles going strong!
Loved the EP3 out of the bunch
0:57 Vtec kicks in yooo
Vtec*
Dimitris Jim I just realised I’m really good at spelling 😆😆
@@BetomOfficial 😂😂
I had an ep3 for 4 years. What an absolute riot it was. I still look back and miss it.
ronstarm3 I put a turbo in mine, 275hp, really insane 😀
@@Sim0ctane I don't believe you... Nobody refers to it as horse power unless they're talking about a stock motor. Also, 275 is a little to "perfect" sounding, if you had said something like 273whp or 273 to the wheels I would have believed you.
@@rossfuller8025 I don't care if you don't believe me, i have my dyno specs on sheet
@@Sim0ctane Also... Nobody calls a dyno chart/graph a spec sheet. Bro, you don't have a turbo Ep3... Just stop. You probably drive a clapped out 95 with a d16 in it.
@@rossfuller8025 srly 😂 bye
So much VTEC
My favourite is the EP3 as well
Always got love for Honda ❤👌🏻
Vtec kick in yo vs vtec turbo spool yo
It would be a wet dream to own any of these
That mugen is beautiful not to mention how much more I admire it for losing but leading the race whilst N/A
EP3 is the best looking for me, I’ve always wanted one
Ep3 for life!!!
I love the EP3! There are a few hot hatch icons in my eyes, GTI Mk1, 205 GTI, Fiesta ST Mk7, Focus RS Mk2 (plus a few more) and without a doubt this EP3.
@@user-oo8us not a hot hatch
Loved the way the mugen sounds
That red fn2 is beautiful
Fn2 mugen looks sick : D