How Good is the New Illuminate Update? Helldivers 2 Patch Review, Thoughts & Opinions

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  • @dennnnnn1352
    @dennnnnn1352 День тому +58

    The wind blowing through the tree ambience feels really nice. Makes me want a forest biome even more.

    • @Claysthetics
      @Claysthetics  День тому +4

      I thought it was a fun extra thing. Still wondering what else they did.

    • @Blacksheep045
      @Blacksheep045 День тому +4

      We do already have rainforests but if they were going to add more forest biomes i would love to see some dense deciduous forests on temperature planets or some snowy boreal forests on cold planets.

    • @JHelldiver1121
      @JHelldiver1121 15 годин тому

      I would love forest biomes especially for the illuminate because it would just feel so creepy and eerie but my 500kg bombs always get stuck in a tree 😭

  • @derkaiser9881
    @derkaiser9881 День тому +53

    Lore accurate rocket rack at long last.

    • @Claysthetics
      @Claysthetics  День тому +4

      It has finally happened brotha we are free
      Edit: to kill squids the bots still spam crash when we kill to many :(

    • @convergence1point
      @convergence1point День тому

      Sadgness

    • @Simplefng
      @Simplefng День тому

      @@Claysthetics killing more than 30, my ps5 will crash. So we have to be a lot more strategic in target selection.

  • @Longshot-qv8is
    @Longshot-qv8is День тому +23

    As a HD10 diver, I agree with more chaff for the bugs, but not more hunters. They are too oppressive as is. Warriors, pouncers, and scavengers are well balanced for higher numbers.

    • @Chuito12PR
      @Chuito12PR 9 годин тому

      Definitely more warriors! I regularly get more brood commanders than warriors

  • @ShadowofProvidence
    @ShadowofProvidence День тому +45

    The only downside to this latest patch is the constant disconnects their servers are on fire lol. I gave up on playing after disconnecting from a full d10 illuminate map clear right before exfil. Squids are fun to fight but they are waaay too easy imo. They don't have a full roster so I dont think they need balancing with more core units on the way. Its just silly how far MG42, gat sentry, MG sentry and guard dog gun backpack gets me.

    • @Claysthetics
      @Claysthetics  День тому +8

      @@ShadowofProvidence Drop in solo and go for some kills on squids it's really fun and more challenging than bugs ATM which is nice. The disconnects are for matchmaking if you premake a party it fixes it!

    • @Video_Winner
      @Video_Winner День тому +8

      @@Claysthetics I tried as duo and we got absolutely wrecked. These comments about how easy they are have me feeling insecure 😂

    • @Claysthetics
      @Claysthetics  День тому +1

      @Video_Winner If you rush main ob on them you can win super easily and in a 4 man you just mop them rn. The solo where I killed 1700 was more challenging than any solo t10 I've done on bugs which was nice

    • @s2wuolf508
      @s2wuolf508 День тому +3

      If you alt-f4 your game after noticing symptoms of being disconnected and before you get sent back to the ship, game should treat it as a crash and let you reconnect upon start-up

    • @Erick-tv8oq
      @Erick-tv8oq День тому +7

      @@ShadowofProvidence Helldivers: "We need more diverse loadouts! Everything needs armor pen, assault rifles are borderline useless!"
      Also Helldivers when a faction that doesn't endlessly spam heavily armored enemies drops: "What?! It's better for me to take an Eagle Strafing Run than a 500 KG?! It's better for me to take a MG than a Recoiless Rifle for the thousandth time?! The game is too easy! Every stratagem that shoots bullets should be inferior to high firepower and explosions! Please, make the Illuminate require the exact same type of loadout that every other faction asks!"

  • @kotztotz3530
    @kotztotz3530 День тому +26

    No Medium Siege armor is a crime!!!

    • @zssdfounder4607
      @zssdfounder4607 День тому +4

      Yea it's the type of armor and 0assive that has no reason not to have a medium tier. Annoying.

    • @RakEXE-dn5xe
      @RakEXE-dn5xe День тому +3

      @@kotztotz3530 medium variant was leaked but no idea when it will arrive

    • @kotztotz3530
      @kotztotz3530 20 годин тому

      @@zssdfounder4607 Exactly! what's the point of having two sets of heavy armor for the same passive?

    • @kotztotz3530
      @kotztotz3530 20 годин тому +1

      @@RakEXE-dn5xe I need that ASAP :)

  • @sourcekade1478
    @sourcekade1478 День тому +15

    my only complaint is that the illuminates spotters emit such a vibrant purple colour and with the stim upgrade it hurt my eyes so much.

    • @Simplefng
      @Simplefng День тому +2

      I've banned enhanced stims on illuminate missions. I can't stand it! I'm color blind so that purple color is eye searing painful. I play in the dark with a red light behind me. And that doesn't really help.
      Still many more boosters that are handy

  • @dennisdavis6943
    @dennisdavis6943 День тому +7

    One change I haven't seen any mention of is when you recall your guard dog it now reloads.

    • @Lazarultos
      @Lazarultos 19 годин тому

      Wait is this for real? That's awesome if so! I always wished I could manually reload the Dog if its mag is low so it can blaze away on the next encounter.

    • @dennisdavis6943
      @dennisdavis6943 19 годин тому

      @Lazarultos I was just playing and can confirm it does!

  • @calamite0
    @calamite0 День тому +9

    I found that the stim box have two stims instead of four if your empty

    • @tymera
      @tymera День тому

      @@calamite0 That happened to me too :(

    • @JelloPiranha
      @JelloPiranha 22 години тому

      It's supposed to be based on how many players there are, right? Is it always 2 now?

  • @SoraTheKobold
    @SoraTheKobold День тому +7

    i adore the illuminate so far, i dont know how only one of 3 factions gets a DEDICATED call in unit, it feels like such an obvious decision, i mean bots even have a commissar unit already

    • @HughJass901
      @HughJass901 День тому +5

      There will be at least one or two more call-in units for squids. Anybody who played the first game knows that the Watchers are just the beginning. We also have Observers and Obsidian Observers to look forward to.

    • @deltabelta6216
      @deltabelta6216 21 годину тому

      @@HughJass901 Frankly I’m more excited for the Outcasts, Hunters and the Obelisk’s.

  • @suchopsmimic399
    @suchopsmimic399 День тому +2

    Now that the tank is nerfed it needs proper AI. All of the tanks need to distance themselves from the player while attempting to get line of sight. Currently they just drive forward and put themselves in harms way.
    The bugs also definitely need more enemies and the heavies are just way too weak ever since the nerf.
    Giving them back their armor(aside from certain body parts to keep level 4 pen usable), decreasing their spawns, increasing standard spawns, and then massively buffing the spear tracking( aggressively tracks head) will make bugs potent again and give the spear a purpose.

  • @gopnikprince8000
    @gopnikprince8000 День тому +1

    I love when the tripods beam you or when you get too close and they just zap you, it gets punishing when there are multiple of them but their obvious tells and having so many options to kill and stagger them makes them really fun to fight.

  • @IBASteve
    @IBASteve День тому +1

    they can introduce colony mission for bugs after the gloom settles and bring in the hive lord destroying the colony. bots instead of colonies could have one huge super fortress covering most of the mission area with all the other missions combined in it(detector towers and jamers overlapping range with gunship fabs, supply depots, drop ship yard, even add in hostage rescue areas for pelican to evac etc)

  • @rawrxdtonepforme9360
    @rawrxdtonepforme9360 День тому +7

    Personally if they ever increase the bugs chaff, I'd rather it be a shit ton of warriors and scavengers with a few hunters sprinkled in. That way the hunters are still a high priority target and will get you killed if not dealt with. I personally hated the bugged patrols because it felt like I was getting cheesed instead of constant fun and challenging encounters. Though part of that just could have been because of the constant headshots. I do want them to bring the size of those patrols back, but with a diverse enemy line up. I also wish they'd have brood and alpha commanders in the same mission instead of how they work now.

    • @sourcekade1478
      @sourcekade1478 День тому

      well said

    • @TsunamiWombat
      @TsunamiWombat День тому +3

      I agree. For the most populous bug type, I genuinely do not see a lot of warriors. It's all hunters, hive guards, and commanders.

    • @rawrxdtonepforme9360
      @rawrxdtonepforme9360 День тому

      @@TsunamiWombat yeah, it sucks too because the warriors are my favorite

  • @pehenry
    @pehenry День тому +9

    On your negative point 8, I agree.
    I was thinking about the "essentials" for a new player and how they are buried under 2 different War Bonds.
    Stun Grenades
    Grenade Pistol
    Crossbow
    Thermites (maybe)

    • @tabithal2977
      @tabithal2977 День тому +3

      @pehenry i mean, after the thermites got their buff a few months ago I didnt think I really needed the stun grenades anymore. I never bought the cutting edge warbond and im doing just fine. Democratic detonation is really the only "must have" warbond in my opinion.

    • @pehenry
      @pehenry День тому +1

      @@tabithal2977 thermites are good. But it sounds like you don't know what you're missing. Stuns can save lives. A charger with a thermite on it can still kill you or a teammate. And if a teammate is getting mobbed you can stun the mob to save him. And if you play HMG like I do, you need stuns to reload.

    • @handlesrstupid123
      @handlesrstupid123 День тому +1

      I mean you can beat d10 with basic equipment thats unlocked by lvl 10, there are no musts in my eyes

  • @mustang_5197
    @mustang_5197 День тому

    I really would like for them to add a small city section to each map, it doesn’t have to be as big as the colony invasion maps but having a bit always present would be so cool

  • @bdbgh
    @bdbgh День тому

    Haven't played the bot side after the illuminate dropped in, but I definitely appreciate them fixing the rocket striders, I truly hated them more than any other bots for being able to snipe me from a mile away with pinpoint accuracy.

  • @Tachyon_77
    @Tachyon_77 День тому

    Love your editing style and goofy yet serious tone. Subscriber gained.
    For Super Earth!

  • @beardmaster6208
    @beardmaster6208 День тому +1

    Idk if it was a thing before, but I was able the stagger chargers out of their charger with the autocannon. Its more realable than trying to dodge them.

  • @timesathousand
    @timesathousand День тому +1

    Reprimand destroys the Barrager tanks now. Give a whirl with the new armor passive and Quasar/Bubble. It feels great.

  • @ourlordgarry9576
    @ourlordgarry9576 14 годин тому

    I absolutely cannot wait till the city maps get added to bugs and bots I feel like itll just breath so much more life into those factions especially the bugs, you are 100% right the bugs just feel way to easy then what they should feel like on higher diffs I think a seriously dedicated ranged unit for the bugs would shake things up abit but idk im sure arrowhead will cook something up for the bugs at some point

  • @Echo_418
    @Echo_418 День тому +1

    Hey Clay do you know if the smoke is working? There was a patch were it was fixed, but since the patch after that it feels like it has been broken again.

  • @4dragonzzz
    @4dragonzzz 9 годин тому

    Attached fabricators to jammers no longer blow up the jammer. And the box that is sometimes on top of the research station also doesn’t blow up the entire research station anymore. I’m sure there are other hidden changes as well. I hate when they don’t tell us these things.

  • @spec8473
    @spec8473 20 годин тому

    Four of us normally play together and have decided to give HD2 a break until the servers stabilize. Sure we never have a problem re-connecting but getting ejected four or more times in a single map is just ridiculous.

  • @Spectacular_Insanity
    @Spectacular_Insanity День тому

    Aside from a handful of minor bugs, I have no real complaints this patch. Thank god.

  • @joegarcia4550
    @joegarcia4550 День тому +1

    FYI folks the pole fighters can hit you hard enough to push you thru a wall 🧱 💀 so watch out

  • @Spinexus
    @Spinexus День тому

    Another hidden change is the pulse rifle. Ground overseers actually hit u now. First Invasion i could literally ignore them at range if i stood still.

  • @NoxGlvdius
    @NoxGlvdius День тому +1

    i hope they don't nerf the anti-tank emplacement, and if they do nerf it it is probably going to be the ammo count or the cooldown time. since its damage output per shell is around 1350s damage(?), which is less than EAT and around Commando damage range. its becoming my most used stratagem against the bots, and feel like one person or two people need to bring it.
    i like to make foxholes with my grenade pistol and act like its some sort of WW2 anti-tank emplacement gun lol. it also pairs well with the recoiless & autocanon. i also being autocanon sentry and rocket sentry, to have a full anti-tank loadout on the bot front.

    • @Simplefng
      @Simplefng День тому

      I use a OPS to dig a hole, plant my position and wait for the drop ships.

  • @512mbflashdrive
    @512mbflashdrive День тому

    watching y'all play on stream makes me so jealous. i've literally never had a full squad of capable gamers.

    • @Claysthetics
      @Claysthetics  День тому

      I usually play with chat and whoever wants to come play so try to make some friends in discord and ull prob be able to get a decent squad or come play sometime when im streaming

  • @chadjohnson2035
    @chadjohnson2035 День тому +1

    Superior packaging methodology is still bugged

  • @MrUltravolcano
    @MrUltravolcano День тому +1

    My games have been plagued by hunters. I get so many hunter patrols that often times I am pressured to run and jetpack away. Maybe its a skill issue but I see tonnes of hunters in my games and it makes taking out the heavies extremely hard.

    • @E3.20
      @E3.20 День тому

      @@MrUltravolcano It’s important to get the jump on them. Before they react to you, If you can take out half or a third of the patrol with grenades, flack rounds from AC, grenade launcher, throw down a MG sentry, etc. then it’ll be easy to handle the rest with normal means.

    • @astroman1027
      @astroman1027 День тому

      Its the mission types you are playing/getting unlucky
      Look up Enemy Constellations for helldivers

  • @kgoldric
    @kgoldric 10 годин тому

    Two big negatives i hope they fix... 1. (PS5) The gaurd dogs retract when calling in 500s or any strategem with the down d-pad key. They need to deconflict this race condition. 2. The jet packs are rag dolling on landing more than ever. They fixed this previously but its back and worse than ever.

  • @GummyKermit
    @GummyKermit День тому +1

    The cinderblock armor reminds me of a chunky ODST

  • @shank1013
    @shank1013 День тому

    4:55 whats are you refering too, there are patrols of hunters, like 9 in a pack that randomly patrol...

    • @Claysthetics
      @Claysthetics  День тому

      The update back in june that had a constant 5 packs of 12 hunters coming at you the entire game where we pushed 4800 kills

  • @Robopup325
    @Robopup325 День тому

    Ive had a few instances of rocket striders firing rockets after they've died so watch out folks!

  • @defenstrator4660
    @defenstrator4660 День тому

    I am going full laser against the Illuminate and it is working really well.

  • @bebopsynthguy6629
    @bebopsynthguy6629 День тому

    I feel like they made a change to the shots on MG and ARs when you’re mag is almost empty. Could have been in before but this is the first time I’ve noticed

  • @jamessaucedo607
    @jamessaucedo607 День тому

    Any chance you'll be returning to Darktide for havoc?

  • @turbo558
    @turbo558 День тому

    Can someone tell me how to spell “chaff”? I understand that it must mean small enemies or something of that nature but i cant find the word online

  • @SAF-Chronicles-97
    @SAF-Chronicles-97 День тому

    well this strat will change cus these are just vanguard illumis, aka the scouts, the full might of the army will have worser enemies, obelisks, councilors, observers, snipers and stealth enemies

  • @maverickbeneteau2674
    @maverickbeneteau2674 День тому

    I have noticed that the revolver is doing better than the slug shotgun and the some semi auto rifles with the medium armor pen. And don't get why people hate the bolt action rifle I love it but it might be my playstyle.

  • @carlosvicenty-9856
    @carlosvicenty-9856 День тому +3

    It’s peak that’s all anybody has to know

    • @Claysthetics
      @Claysthetics  День тому +1

      Indeed but the hidden changes made it better!

  • @Prockski
    @Prockski День тому

    Maybe this change happened before, maybe it was a while since I did a bot drop but for sure the Autocannon stagger force versus Hulks is higher. I’ve asked people and no one else has talked about it or responded one way or the other. Hell I made a video to show what I meant but no one has an answer for me if it’s a stealth buff or something I missed in the past.

  • @Danodan94
    @Danodan94 День тому +2

    The illuminate ground ships have one door that is bugged and will not take damage from time-detonated grenades. This needs to be fixed.
    The new directional shield has a bug that allows it to be used inside mechs and in emplacements. Could be turned into a neat feature, but current implementation has an obviously buggy activation method and gives the shield infinite durability so it's gotta go.

    • @zssdfounder4607
      @zssdfounder4607 День тому

      To give context for the grounded illuminate warp ships serving as "factories" it is their left door that is bugged. The door to the right is good for grenades. In my playthroughs this is consistent.

  • @skal-tel8077
    @skal-tel8077 День тому

    11:16
    "Remember -no Russian."

  • @the_icerasta7
    @the_icerasta7 День тому

    I can't seem to stun chargers with the halt shotgun anymore ! Anyone else noticed this ?

  • @drag0nmancer
    @drag0nmancer День тому

    my real issue now on bots is so much smoke that the hosts cant see shit. all the smoke and haze from destroying too many bots and dropships makes it impossible to see shit.

  • @Rysdad1
    @Rysdad1 День тому +1

    Bugs are so boring now without patrols that it's really not even enjoyable bc there's no challenge

    • @Claysthetics
      @Claysthetics  День тому

      Yea anyone who didnt play bugged patrols just doesnt understand what were missing out on :(

  • @Drkfire_Yt
    @Drkfire_Yt 11 годин тому

    I played bugs on lvl 4 yesterday (i havnt tried to go any higher yet cause im still a relatively low lvl) but it felt like the bugs woultn stop spawning, especially the stalkers and bile spewers there were so many.

  • @Ailakftw
    @Ailakftw День тому

    It just works!

  • @bebopsynthguy6629
    @bebopsynthguy6629 День тому

    I do hope they add the full enemy roster (minus a few additions like they added for bots and bugs) because right now the enemy variety isn’t really doing it for me for the squids. I would say on super helldive they are by far the easiest for me. But then again I’ve always been someone who throws stratagems on cool down and constantly switches between weapons. What is on offer here is cleared with medium pen almost exclusively.

    • @SHOVELBONES
      @SHOVELBONES День тому

      more units are already in the game files, including a wizard-type guy that summons "ghouls" (probably more Voteless but who knows)

  • @gothicpando
    @gothicpando День тому

    We can push the pelican now, ultimate grief status achieved.

  • @maverickbeneteau2674
    @maverickbeneteau2674 День тому

    I have noticed that the revolver is doing better than the slug shotgun and the some semi auto rifles with the medium armor pen. And don't get why people hate the bolt action rifle I love it but it might be my playstyle.
    Edit: probably can't find this vid again so cant respond to any comments maby.

  • @arthurgranja6795
    @arthurgranja6795 День тому

    bugs diff 10 feels on the easy side at the moment, i agree, i dont think going back to hunter spam is the call tho. i know, they changed some attack behaviours to prevent one shoting so frequently by hunters, but still, spamming that would just be going back to the tilting era imo. bugs feel a lil easy and i think perhaps more quantity in general might be in order. perhaps more varied or specialized patrol. imagine fiding a 3 charger patrol or one with no small units but like 10 brood comanders or some shit.
    I dont want to have to go back to carpal tunnel apm dive spaming with stim spaming and other crazy shit we do survive and kill jumpers. they are annoying and they are in a good ratio right now. For all I know, there is a map variant were most patrols are hunter patrols, with pratically no armored infantry or other specialized troops, thats good enough for hunters imo.

  • @ghoulbuster1
    @ghoulbuster1 День тому

    So what happened to the barrage tank?

    • @zssdfounder4607
      @zssdfounder4607 День тому

      Its rocket rack aka where the missiles shoot out of has its armor pen resistance lowered. It's now viable for more weapons to actually kill these blights.

    • @Claysthetics
      @Claysthetics  День тому

      Watch the first minute of the video lol

  • @big_petebear8535
    @big_petebear8535 День тому

    I can't play the new faction.
    Just endless "network lost" error after a few minutes

  • @happyrock5478
    @happyrock5478 День тому +2

    Glad to know , i can hear the trees sneaking up behind me,
    Sometimes ah has the weirdest priority's

    • @Claysthetics
      @Claysthetics  День тому

      The trees are whispering.

    • @happyrock5478
      @happyrock5478 27 хвилин тому

      I want a mutant tree ant-squid to come crashing out if the forest now

  • @joegarcia4550
    @joegarcia4550 День тому

    You think they will ever change how the rockets just rag doll you with the new shield?

    • @zssdfounder4607
      @zssdfounder4607 День тому

      Same with the other two shields we have access to. I will say that while the directional shields is great for providing friendlies cover its wide af barrier is basically a net for rockets that would normally miss... guess we just need to learn to reactively stop aiming when rocket barrages come our way.

    • @joegarcia4550
      @joegarcia4550 Годину тому

      @zssdfounder4607 saw my teammate getting volled by Lazers I slid in front of him so he could run or stim and he knew it too got my thanks love this new shield tho

  • @Boamere
    @Boamere День тому

    seems like a pog update

  • @Rysdad1
    @Rysdad1 День тому

    They need to cut dead enemy despawn rates at least in half. It's so annoying and performance affecting that they stay laying on/blocking areas as long as they do. I have no idea why they stay so long. And they NEED TO CALM THE D*MN SMOKE DOWN ON DEFENSE MISSIONS. My God you can't see anything bc there is smoke blocking line of sight so much its obnoxious

  • @Vexce11en1
    @Vexce11en1 День тому

    0:58 pause

  • @elfireii328
    @elfireii328 2 години тому

    Running into server lag is killing the fun for me in multiplayer, but it’s pretty good in solo play.

  • @LeisurelyShtooping
    @LeisurelyShtooping День тому

    I feel the tripods are too tanky. They should not be able to tank a spear shot.

  • @burnttoqst9061
    @burnttoqst9061 День тому

    2 pairs of glasses, +rep

  • @scubasteve743
    @scubasteve743 День тому

    The sickle got bigger

  • @tksbelcher3084
    @tksbelcher3084 День тому

    Whats everyone's personal kill-farm record? I have 1202 for bugs, and 1100 for illuminate, but I haven't kill-farmed bots yet... I'll edit this when I do

  • @curtisbrown547
    @curtisbrown547 День тому

    Wow. Thats an enormous change to barrager tanks. That absolutely cripples them. I can kill them with the jar-5 now. Im... Im not even sure if thats fair or not tbh.. like, i really don't want to make the game "too" easy... Especially when the AT emplacement is already going to be obliterating entire tank battalions en masse

  • @LeisurelyShtooping
    @LeisurelyShtooping День тому

    I feel the illuminate are a pre 60 day patch faction.

  • @pehenry
    @pehenry День тому

    Negative 5 - Ha. Not like we're Master Chief in power armor. We can't flip a car. But maybe there's a built in winch you can deploy to right the car.

    • @Claysthetics
      @Claysthetics  День тому +1

      The suggestion was to have an interaction with 2 helldivers to be able to flip it back over like a team reload

    • @pehenry
      @pehenry День тому

      @@Claysthetics I think it would take all 4 dudes to flip a rolled over vehicle.

  • @TheSpectralFX
    @TheSpectralFX День тому

    Timmy did not in fact... do it.

  • @preservinglight
    @preservinglight День тому

    I dont see Yohans head on the barrager tank in the thumbnail thats some weak energy Clay, you can do better!

  • @nanakoshimuraside
    @nanakoshimuraside День тому

    If you have any questions you're WRONG

  • @boogleooger9666
    @boogleooger9666 День тому +2

    I think on lower difficulties the jet pack squids shouldn’t be able to move and shoot at the same time. I play with my brothers who can’t aim super well and they are by far the most frustrating enemies for them. Once you get to difficulties 8-10 though they should work as is.

    • @Agherosh
      @Agherosh День тому +3

      They should work exactly the same on every difficulty. They already lower the number of enemies on low difficulties, it's one thing for something to be easier and another is to have the game play for you. Your brothers will improve.

  • @haxguy0
    @haxguy0 День тому

    What's with the hidden changes? So silly

  • @ArmandoTheWanderer
    @ArmandoTheWanderer День тому +1

    Not even max level, what do you know 😂

  • @pontusvongeijer1240
    @pontusvongeijer1240 День тому

    Y Gaysthetics am noob? 😂