⚠ NEW VIDEO: CEO Responds to Backlash, Pilestedt Gives his thoughts and More ua-cam.com/video/yJAywXatVVU/v-deo.html ⚠ Overall Thoughts: I understand both sides of the situation. I'm not a big fan of the prices either, considering a lot of people work 9 to 5 jobs; from my understanding, the price is mainly due to the crossover, which is why it's expensive.
Still a bad precedent. We already let stratagems in warbonds and a secondary in the super store fly, now ALL weapon slots can be expected to be super store items? And let's talk about the timing. Sony intentionally waited for everyone to spend their HARD EARNED super creds on the Urban Legends warbond and it's superstore gear to try and strongarm players into having to spend money on supercreds if they wanted to get gear from this collab, and right before the holidays? The content itself is defendable, but the monetization is absolutely ghoulish and is actively preying on FOMO in ways that I expect Blizzard or Nexon games to handle it.
@@kaijuultimax9407 I don't disagree that the prices are steep. I believe it's all due to the crossover. They're also experimenting with the Shop items and warbonds as of right now. If we're all feeling a bit unpleasant about it, the best way is to let them know through surveys and feedback forms. I'm sure Arrowhead will adjust it based off the community reaction honestly.
''just farm them in game. '' sorry but 600 + for a weapon and with a armor more than 1500+ is absurd even with farming in game + the farm of Super credit is so bad, if we had more fun or engaging way to get them would be way better.
You can always go play a triple A game, I hear overwatch has piles of $20-40 dollar skins that do nothing for you....I love people, they want more content...but only free! We don't want them to make money! Oh and then you probably skip the dishes for McDonald's....
@@adrianr2746the problem isnt that, its that you get Just an armor and a mediocre gun for the money that is the same as 2 warbonds which in the Last ones add 2 armors and early ones add 3,and they add the best Guns in the game, tell me, would i get a mid assault rifle, or the New warbond with the melee weapon and some of the best strategems, Only the mask for 310 sc's are worth it(and the title)
This has Sony finger prints all over it Arrowhead if i remember correctly said that they wouldn’t be doing a collab for awhile Update/clarification Im more focused on the price of the superstore for the player than the actual collab
@ yes but from my understanding I thought it would be something later in late Q1 considering they were fixing the game and they just resumed their regular schedule (that’s why I stated if I remember correctly)
@@Kaleidoscope007 He never specified when and I will agree there was no advertisement but this was their first collab It was easy to make since Killzone is owned by Guerilla (Devz who made Horizon Zero Dawn) so it was easy to contact them
He didn't say he wouldn't collab. He said he wouldn't collab with anything that wouldn't make sense for Helldivers. Basically, he said if it doesn't turn HD into another fortnite, then he wouldn't see a problem with it. Killzone, as we can see, fits very well into HD.
I think not having it as a warbond is the real issue. the price is to be expected since its a collab and they got make money for a live service game somehow
My problem is that the prices are higher. If Helldivers are one thing they are stupid. If enough idiots buy it, Sony might start raising Super Store prices.
You sir have a good head on your shoulder, people waste money order delivery from McDonald's which isn't even worth the money if you walk in..and helldivers still isn't like triple A gaming with their 20-40 dollar skins for everything from characters to skins...and god even ammo skins...
Sony just had the game of the year and multiplayer game of the year. Do you really think they're struggling for cash? I play PC but this is a crazy take lol
@@Shzzaam It makes sense. Despite winning GOTY, Astro Bot was something that Sony didn't give a fuck about and was surprised it popped off. Most of Sony's exclusives are walking simulators, movie dropout games, or literal garbage. Sony has been fumbling so much that GOTY is like the one escape they have
Your literally just making shit up, they had 2 nomines for goty, they nearly always have a goty contender, not even just a nominee. Youre just blindly hating @redline841
Meanwhile League of Legends players are laughing… cosmetic stuff cost money, get over it. I would complain if you could buy things wich make you in fact better in a game. But this isnt the case, stop crying.
People say it's almost as much as two warbonds but in reality it's almost as much as three warbonds given most warbonds have 300SC in them, so you spend 1000 but get 300 back. They seriously made it cost almost 3 warbonds to get just reskins. I'll just assume sony meddling as ever.
Honestly I feel that the rifle is the most egregious thing it's almost identical stat wise to the liberator carbine, but it cost more than half of the viper commando war bond where you get the carbine on the first page
You don’t fight back with something small. You fight back when they cross a line, we should be aiming to provide a win win scenario, where the devs can make enough money to support the game and the players don’t feel cheated out of their wallets
So we're back to bullying the devs and review bomb the game again huh? Please grow up. They didn't point a gun to your head and say spend money for the collab. It's earnable currency
Remember when a warbond had x3 primary weapons x3 armour sets a booster a grenade a secondary weapon and more for only 1000 credits???? I think the arrowhead team need to go back to their humble beginnings with prices. Does anyone else agree? 615 for light armour pen regardless of farming super credit potential is a bit steep
Probably due to license stuff and extra hours to make and integrate all of this. Its pricey? yes, do you need them no matter what or are you going to loose the fun if you don't have it this week? no at all, so chill. Keep enjoying the game if you still are with the things we already have, these are only skins and a weapon that doesn't really break the game or something thats needed to have.
@@Arc69 The game isn’t exactly free, you have to pay $40 to play it, and 615 credits for one gun and another 500 for the armor not including the helmet and cape is a little ridiculous considering that a full warbond which contains more content is less than those two things. So the complaints about the steep price of the new items is completely valid.
@@Arc69 this game was the most popular when it came out with millions of sales. Im not worried about them eating. They even felt comfortable enough to go on a mass vacation on the release date of Escalation of Freedom. Remember that?
It natural that the prices would be higher for collab items, so I don't think this is a precursor to them raising prices on regular game items. Moreover none of these new items are really all that good, the gun is useful in so few situations I don't think I'd ever choose to use it if I had it, and the armor passive is really only going to be helpful if your team has flame, gas, and arc weapons. You will almost always be better off using armor with other passives. Personally I don't even think the armor looks that good aesthetically. I think most people won't be willing to buy useless cosmetics at that high of a price so AH and Sony will figure out on their own that this isn't the way to go.
2:00 its almost double the price of a warbond just for the FIRST PAGE so its going to be like 4-5 warbonds worth of super creds , thats really not a small amount at all . and warbonds have lot more items than this . its ridiculously overpriced
Honestly what they need to do is get rid of the current superstore model by not using timers and just have all of the superstore items catalogued in their specific sections in the store whether it be armor, weapons, capes and other miscellaneous items. They need to get rid of timers and make it so we can buy any item we want from the superstore at any moment. And when they add a new item they can just have it displayed in the front of the superstore for a week so people know it's there but then keep it in the catalog where people can buy it any day they want similar to war bonds. This way there is no FOMO and the player base can be more agreeable to having these items in the superstore because they can just grind at their leisure and buy them whenever they feel like it. Effectively turning the superstore into just one massive war bond.
@ kinda missing the point there bud… Spending a couple hours of my life to unlock a warbond is sensible enough for me. But an entire fucking warbond worth of credits for a cape and gun? You can choose to stay on your knees thinking these prices are fair but I won’t. That “Free” excuse only carries so much weight
I personally couldn’t care less about the things like armor and titles (especially the armor because it’s likely we’ll get new armor with the same passive in a future warbond), what I do dislike is the weapons being in the item shop. Not because the prices are a bit inflated, but because it time-gates unlockable content that I believe is more important than the other items being sold. I would hope this store rework adds a special section that allows for weapons to be purchased at any time.
0-50 super credits per level 3 mission, at the least would require nearly 40 missions. If all you're doing is farming the super credits alone, that's hours and hours of work for a single weapon and armor set. If you're with friends, that may cut down the time, but who can convince their friends to ONLY look for super credits every mission and not actually play the game they're playing? Lets not even think about the fact that most missions, I personally only get about 10 or maybe 20 super credits. I'm not doing 100+ missions to farm 2k super credits for one half assed weapon and an armor set. I'd much rather use that 2k to get 2 warbonds just chock full of weapons, armors, strategems and skins.
I'm not a fan of these store prices, but farming is actually super chill. You do level 1 maps and you don't even have to extract. You'll get around 20-50 a run which takes about 5 minutes with more than one person.
You can actually make quite a few super credits on a trivial mission. clear the POI's and do not finish the mission. just return to ship and launch another trivial. with 2- 3 players you can very quickly make 200-300 sc. I just don't like the answer to overly high prices being "just farm it out" If farming is the answer, then you want to have access to the fun upgrades of the game you have to play the game in a not fun way.
@@dzangordenakha3995like the guy said, if you can sacrifice an hour, go to Mastia, very flat and clear skies, hit every poi, don’t extract, bring or find a buddy for bunks. I was able to get 400 in about 90min
Not a huge fan of the recent shift to selling weapons in the superstore, one for 200SC and one for 610SC. These are pricey enough that for a freemaxxer this really sets back your warbond credit grind. It's also a ton of credits for what would otherwise amount to a single item in a 1,000SC warbond.
You can always go play a triple A game, I hear overwatch has piles of $20-40 dollar skins that do nothing for you....I love people, they want more content...but only free! We don't want them to make money! Oh and then you probably skip the dishes for McDonald's....
@adrianr2746 Did you really just try and strawman with overwatch!? Lol cope harder bud. This game is trash and there are plenty of games better than this slop
@@adrianr2746 Not to mention we paid for this game, the rest of the "triple aaa" games youre talking about are free..... Not that I expect someone just copy pasting a strawman statement to engage in intellectual thinking.......
I think he’s more so arguing about the people screaming p2w at the sky and shaking their fist. The armor seems really good sure but it’s not like you can’t beat a difficulty 10 no problem without it. And it doesn’t offer anything really that armor we’ve had before does. More ease of use as it has all elements instead of just one.
i think people are forgetting that all of these items cost almost twice as much as a warbond for maybe a 3rd of the items a warbond would give. doesnt matter if you can grind super credits or not, the intent is clearly for players to buy super credits to get all the items they want
For everyone saying "just grind the super credits bro!" You need to get 1900 or so super credits to get everything here. For those of you who aren't so great at math, that's around 200 missions with how little super credits you get from each mission, assuming you get 10 from each. Some of us have lives and do not have the time or desire to grind that many missions. It's either 200 missions or 20 bucks to get all the crossover items. That's bullshit, and you cannot convince me otherwise. I can tolerate war bonds being 10 bucks because you can unlock them at any time and get several items within them for free. It's not a limited-time deal that's 5-10 dollars per item.
I don't particularly feel like blowing 20 bucks on some virtual items that aren't even that good at what they're supposed to do @@fuzzy3383. I can afford it just fine, I just have no desire to make that purchase. It isn't worth it. How you can't see how Arrowhead/Sonys microtransactions are getting worse and worse is mind boggling to me.
@@AlteForeNot really…most of us dont cry about everything, and demand, what we want… I mean, if you dont like the prices…dont buy it. Its a logical decision. And tbh…its not like these items are that great…so just dont buy it, and just deal with it. You cant change everything, so that you like it!
just dont buy it. also SC are RNG based so you just have bad luck in game. because for me ill find 110 to 60 sc every mission. shit to get this warbond that just came out took me 6 to 8 hours to grind the sc for it which isnt bad at all. which was maybe 10 to 15 missions at most so i dont know where you get your math that its going to take "200" missions. seems like you might have a few skill issues man.
I think it was a good way to introduce a collaboration. Yes its a $20 pick up in the super store. Or you can grind in game. I just wish we had a option for a sight on the AR
@@johngone1nonlyyeah you do. The Tenderizer is the only exception and even the DOMINATOR sucks against them when its ammo bounces off of overseers and jetpacks. Stop lying
Its not p2w. You don't need this. Best way to protest is to not buy it and provide feedback on forms and forums. Stay strong Helldivers. We are not excempt from the foul machinations of capitalism. Its on us to tap into the trust AH has given us that they will do what is right and we Will. Be. Free. *Salute*
Definitely not pay to win since I got all warbonds without paying a single penny besides the super citizen pack, never bought super credits from the store. Now I can understand if some have busy work schedules, like working at an airport or factories that make you stay throughout most the day and you get only a few hours of playtime when you get home. But buying super credits isn't that pricy either if you have an honest job as people claim.
People forget this fact but hey I’m for supporting the game and devs if they are putting out good work. To each their own, but again you don’t need it.
@@adamallen7070 I agree. Its optional, hence why I say the best way to protest it is to not buy it. If you are not opposed, then do it. Both your statement and mine can be true. We are on the same team here. I'd gladly give my money to AH. They truly deserve it unlike most, if not all, popular games nowadays, but I do agree that this is a slippery slope and that, without turning our backs on AH, we can help them and even protect them, and the game, from external "threats" and pressures from Big Bullies like Sony. 🫡
protest? brother you can get this just by playing the game. Nothing in the game is pay to win considering you get premium currency through playing. Maybe p2gf. As in pay to get faster. XD
@@ZaytheRaz The numbers of people who commit murder are also going up. But I guess youd also consider that a good thing, because your sub human brain can only see numbers in green with a big arrow next to them.
@@mantisshrimp6169 how? He has a point they said it's only the shills left playing the game them he said the player count has grown in response you cant say with a straight face that all that's left are shills when the player count has grown with the new content drop
@@mantisshrimp6169 Riight because the fact that player numbers are literally higher after an update proves his point that people that it’s ’only the shills left’. Seriously…I don’t know what goes through y’all’s heads sometimes.
@ have you ever thought about not commenting or being a pH ag? if people don’t complain it’s only going to get worse. I don’t want this game to become Fortnite where we’re paying $20 for an outfit or a weapon. The last thing I want is for this good game to become pay to win.
@@fuzzy3383 We could "just not complain about it", but have you ever considered us "not complaining about it" is the attitude responsible for the state of world affairs? Have you considered staying silent like a good, little subject is both humiliating and damaging to your wellbeing, dare I say enjoyment of the most simple things? Yeah, just don't complain. Never ever.
It does seem a bit unbalance right ? It’s a small set of gear that if you wanted the whole set would cost about 2 warbonds worth of SC. True you could grind it out in game or cave and buy it but it does seem overpriced in my opinion. I had enough super credits for the rifle so I snagged it and it honestly was kind of disappointing, I took it out on a lvl 5 mission against the squids, within a couple of minutes I was missing my eruptor rifle.
If we want this game to continue for years to come and get regular new content then it has to be profitable for arrowhead. If you don’t want to buy it then just grind for it
Never trust Helldivers 2 Fans to think straight... All Helldivers 2 content will be normally priced, a crossover is where two companies collab so the other ends is expecting to make money, this is how its normally made people need a reality check, besides Arrowhead has been super generous in the way no other studio has Aside from Halo Infinite theyre the only ones who ever had battle passes that you can buy anytime with ingame currency and complete it later I bought all of the items with real money and will continue to do so to support arrowhead, this studio is the fromsoftware of multiplayer
How can you say such a sentence as an opener and the yap about how they have to buy licenses when both franchises are owned by the same company and while the IP is completely dead. Never trust a victim of consumerism to have common sense lmao. Imagine defending the price raise from 1000 for 2-3 weapons, 2-3 armor sets, 2-3 capes, 1-2 stratagems, multiple skins, nametags and 300sc to 1900 just for one armor, one weapon, one cape and one nametag. The amount of delulu cope is crazy
Btw the collab is with killzone which guess what is owned by Sony too and plus whats even worse is initially it was a warbond so they decided to be greedy and split up the warbond to get more money and this is only part 1 and part 1 costs nearly 2000 sc and part 2 most likely will have the same price which means it will in all cost 4000 sc, plus this makes me worry for the future as initially it was a melee now an assault rigle how long till they start charging money for 1 stratagem in the superstore another thing is this is less content than a warbond so if we allow this they are gaining more money for doing less
Unpopular opinion time. None of you deserve your own cape. People forget what the creek was at the time. Reinforcements were twice what our intelligence said. Not sure what was happening on the manufacturing end, but only a few of our weapons worked the way they should have... and we were green. The creek couldn't be recreated today, even if we wanted to.
Loadout suggestion: S.T.R.E.E.T. (Squid Termination Road Effective Elimination Tactics) -SG-225SP Breaker Spray & Pray -P-19 Redeemer -G-4 Gas -Any armor with the "Siege-Ready" passive -AX/AR-23 "Guard Dog" -MLS-4X Commando -Eagle Strafing Run -A/MG-43 Machine Gun Sentry (one of the last two will be swaped with the Fast Recon Vehicle) Playstyle: Use the Spray & Pray and the Guard Dog to quickly kill enemies near you. G-4 Gas area denials against hordes of voteless while you are on the run. Eagle Strafing Run can quickly clean a whole street of enemies infront of you. Machine Gun Sentrys short cooldowns allows it to constantly be up. Place it on a crossway to help clearing a whole area of enemies. A Commando Rocket either to a Warp Ships door or an Harvesters upper leg will destroy them both easely. Use the P-19 Redeemer to quickly disable their energy shield.
This is a shift in stratagy tho. Right after every bought the warbond they do this. This is clearly trying to promote more microtransactions. Its not that horrific right now but it is a departure from their path. They are going down a very unloved road right now.
Can't forget the FOMO to make sure that the people that just bought the war bond now being out likely can't farm all the super credits needed because of the sheer needed time to farm out the super credits ensuring that the f2p players don't have any loose super credits so they are forced to buy or miss out. In otherwords, objective "FOMO" (Fear of missing me out)
One warbond page worth of items for the price of 2 warbonds... With a time limit and a promise to be available again "at some point down the line" Price gouging and Fomo at the same time.
CALLED IT!!! Happy that Killzone is getting some love, and the weapons and armor are spot on (outside the cape but we know Arrowhead won't budge on that front). The StA-52 feels like a straight up upgrade to the Liberator even if it isn't and we all know how most of the playerbase feels like the Liberator is worthless. If the StA-52 had the under barrel shotgun like it did in Killzone 1 then everyone would be saying that it is 100% P2W but would also like it more. The W.A.S.P. is great at dealing with the Overseers just be careful when you fire it when mobs are around you unless you want to self detonate. If the leaks are anything to go by then the only way people are going to get a primary sniper weapon is to shell out Super Credits and then we can have the real discussion on if things are P2W.
Love the people saying “tHe StOrE wIlL rOtAtE” as if that’s not the whole reason people are mad. Time and time again has AH taken the moral high ground on FOMO in microtransactions just to jack up the prices of everything and hit us all with FOMO for the first crossover? I’m not going to stop playing and I’m not going to boycott or anything but I don’t think we should be here just thanking AH for spitting in our faces after they’ve acted all high and mighty compared to other companies using these marketing practices.
in my opinion, that should have been a "Super Warbond", creating another category of warbonds dedicated to crossovers only. Make it cost more, like 2/3k super credits, so that it sounds more reasonable to spend that amount of super credits on a warbond more then on a single item in the shop. Furthermore, having it as a warbond would give more time for farming super credits to all players, who wouldn't have to wait for the next shop cycle before actually getting the items
6:05 if I remember correctly killzone has bigger assault rifles so maybe we will see some more variants that do have medium and possibly heavy armor pen.
pay to win isnt the issue its the price. Almost $20 in super credits typically gives us up to 6 outfits plus weapons. I dont care if it is earnable in game they know that by putting it out at this price that people will end up buying credits to catch up. Just keep it consistent and make it make sense.
“ I don’t care if it is earnable in game “ LOL did you even watch your word. The fact that they made it farmable makes the the game a huge difference from MANY other games and you should be thankful for that not don’t care for it. And you have a choice to buy it or not, It won’t affect the game much lol unless you want to support the team to make more content or else just don’t buy it or farm for it.
Just go Grind for it and quit complaining! It’s not that hard in a day you can have all of this from 75 credits this morning I’m already half way done getting the entire superstore now sure I’m off work today but even if I was in 2 hours I could easily get the 610 credits for the weapon and rinse and repeat everyday since now superstore will be longer and give you more time to grind for the stuff you want
The new rifle feels awesome. It's the closest we have to a primary LMG as it's basically a budget Stalwart. It's a shame that they scrapped the Righteous Revenants Warbond and put all the items in the shop at insane prices, especially when the new armor set passive and the new weapon are actually good
2:27 asked for thoughts and answers to opinion based questions before going over the information. But hey still got you a comment before I finished the video
I do like the crossover event. However, I do believe it's fine for it to be in the shop. The new weapon is like a high mag liberator, damage is similar to the base liberator no p2w aspects there. The armor is better out of the rest of the selection because the rest is just a cosmetic base afterwards. To me, it's not that big a deal. But I do understand that there are people who don't spend as much time on the game as some of us do.
Exactly see you’ve been grinding and sitting on super credits of not someone can just drop 20$ and get the super credits and be able to grab everything is what I did I pay for battle passes etc and maybe they have to pay hellzone some fees to for having a cross over or like the creator said they have 4-5 days to grind for super to and anyways I like things like this sometimes cause not everyone can pick it up then have to wait for the cycle to come back so you can feel some what special on the field cause not everyone has it at the moment you know
@ lmaoooo yo facts and people bugging for the first time in what 2 years the game been out and it’s the first 20$ purchase if only you got no super credits but someone else on here said they was sitting on 10K plus from grinding I guess and if you have 1k plus then drop 10$ or grid people just cry and want these handed you’ll feel better if you gotta buy it or grind for it lol 😂
Another issue i dont see anyone talking about is the release window of this crossover. The squids show up drawing big player numbers just in time for a new warbond with 2 HIGHLY requested stratagems and the HIGHLY requested melee weapons so most players either bought or used saved up SC already. Releasing this collaboration knowing a good chunk of your player base is tapped out on premium currency is equally as predatory as the prices themselves.
Honestly i think its a pretty cool crossover. Do I think it should be a war bond? Yes but considering its a collab , im willing to bet that the other party wanted a better way to get money, least thats my guess. And honestly the fact it can come back around via a normal rotation and not a limited once every few years is always a plus
It would have been nice to have a war bonus and 2 more pages in the superstore, with weapons, capes, and armor, that way the devs can get people to put money into the new cosmetics and players aren't forced to buy the superstore items, everyone wins.
Btw the collab is with killzone killzone is owned by god damn sony as well ao the other party is sony too, another thing is that this costs more for even less content than a warbond they are quite literally making more from soing less and this is gonna worsen if we do nothing about and eventually they might end up chargings us super crdits for 1 stratagem
I’d rather it be a 20$ warbond with more stuff then this tbh. Collabs can be more expensive but I think they should also have more stuff if they are going to be pricey
How many people don’t get that KZ is also owned by Sony is really frustrating. Yeah Sony wanted more money from Sony so Sony came up with the idea to split up a warbond so Sony could get more money
Tenderizer has been my go too as of recent. Along with the triple barrel shotgun sidearm, and incendiary impacts. Pair it with the Napalm and Laser Orbital, an eagle strike or two instead of the laser, and a guard dog you're set
no money made from the collab. no more collabs is it that big of a deal if luxury items made from a collab (in which both companies try to get money) are priced more than usual? Besides, sure, its overpriced, but not that big of a deal... you can get a warbond's worth of SC in a couple hours, and you probably already have a couple hundreds SC from other completed warbonds. If you really dont have time or money for this, it will come back, its in rotation! surely you will have saved up some currecny between the cycles...
Drop all parts of the Killzone premium by 50-100 SC each and it will be more viable. It should cost more than standard as a prestige item, but not by this much. I think I will wait and only get it if my regular play gives me a lot of access credits or a discount comes in.
Could we get a Super Earth Flag to run around with as a secondary and maybe a spear on the end... I think it be fun to run around like butters from sp😅
something alot of people overlook is the fact that the real problem is what is coming next. if they get away with this what stopping them from raising the price of warbonds and making more overpriced and FOMO items. we have seen this happen many times in gaming and I would hat this game to become anti consumer like overwatch,fortnite etc. there was NO reason for this not to be a warbond. i love this game and arrowhead I have almost 600 hours and have bought the game on PC and ps5 but I would hate to have this gem of a game be ruined.
@@mtt3000 i agree that cross overs should be more expensive. but this is outrageous. 20 dollars for a basic weapon and armor set? and like I said in the post. this was supposed to be a warbond which costs 10$. this one costs 20$ and there's a second part which likely cost the same. maybe even more so that 40$ for something we could've gotten for 10$.
I am one constanlty shitting on the team but this has 1: nothing to do with the dev team 2: you dont need to buy it and finnaly 3: it will come back to the shop
Please don't ignore that Helldivers 2 is NOT a FREE TO PLAY game. These prices are NOT ok. AH needs to paddle back and release this as the Warbond it was supposed to be!
It's not free to play but it is live service. The alternative is release the game with no post launch additions. The team would then move onto the next game
Just go grind the the super-credits it’s not that hard people saying this are usually the people paying to win on call of duty and unlike call of duty here you can actually earn the credits instead of ONLY having to buy them
People are way too dramatic about this imo. I see being a lil surprised by the prices but like 3-5 hours of supercredit farming will get you the gun and armor. The rest is unnecessary cosmetics. Besides, AH has gotta make money somehow. If this game was made pre 2015 the illuminate would've been a paid map expansion of sorts. Cosmetics like this are a simple tradeoff. At the end of the day this crossover is just a fun thing for mid to late game players with extra credits to buy. I really doubt AH is going pay to win.
Im calling it now: if this collabs succeeds(seems like it bc most of you are NPCs apparently) then we will get shittier and possibly less WBs and the good shit will be in the SS for prices like this
Yep, a lot of ppl missing the bigger picture - this is how they are gonna keep revenue up when thing's plateau and they can't do Xbox crossplay (which would be the smarter solution)
People defend anything nowadays, at this point they're bots programmed to blindly believe anything and repeat the same two lines and thing they actually have a point.
Dud, it's literally optional it's not P2W, is it convenient maybe,but if it upsets you this badly don't buy it. not like they were begging for your money anyway its a crossover set of course it's gonna be more overpriced than base game items. It's been that way since crossovers have been a thing, do i think it should be a warbond instead of shop items, yea but I'm not gonna bitch and moan over something that in the long run is not going to ruin my overall enjoyment. It's one thing if it's were an overpowered weapon and armor but its not, it's from all reports pretty mid as far as armor and weapons go, we shouldnt shame people for buying something they like. It dosent hurt you in the long run not like you were gonna buy it any way; everyone I've seen here has been going on like it's the end of the world and how it's P2W and it's ruining the game, but it's not it's completely optional dont like don't buy it you're not gonna suffer for not buying it, not like its gonna be the next meta build that's a must have for high difficulties.
Ngl this is actually a really good point. I feel like it has to do with the fact that it’s become common to hate on Helldivers for every little thing. This is just another excuse for people who don’t like the game to just complain.
@ bingo. Like that comment: oh I can’t wait to delete this it’s p2w. Bro this is one of the most engaging and fair groups of developers I’ve ever seen. Good luck getting that from activision or EA.
@@BuffyBillyGibby this game is also far from pay 2 win. Like, how can a game based on shooting hordes down be pay to win 😭. Besides everything is balanced cause all the items are op now. Either way, the rífle and armor for the collab aren’t that good to begin with.
Yea but its also likely the same people who own every warbond too and that's 10 bucks per warbond there's about let's say 8 give or take one or two that's 80 bucks but okay let's go off the argument of well you get 300 back well even then you get just enough to get 2 free warbonds but it still costs you 60 bucks and the war bonds thus far have had weapons that are close to meta or just ok armor sets that are meta a couple of stragems that are OK but then they call the crossover stuff P2W and overpriced which yea it's expensive roughly the price of 2 war bonds for half the content but its a crossover they could easily say if you miss out on its rotation it's gone never coming back but its not its gonna rotate and from all reports tge armor and weapon are pretty mid overall not bad but not great either but yet we demonize the crossover optional content that's not gonna impact gameplay regardless of if you own it or not
Logically, the killzone stuff is an unexpected surprise that doesn't diminish or effect from the new patch content either way. Emotionally, there's a new primary weapon on the super store that costs almost 3/4ths of an entire warbond. It doesn't matter that it's just another liberator variant without any armor penetration. It doesn't matter that it's a one-off cross-over promotional.
dog this game is 40$ you cant be putting a 6$ gun in a rotating fortnite store. That "grind to earn" argument goes away when it takes TIME to get sc from games, and you put items on a timer and we dont know when they'll be back. How do i grind 600sc in 4 days if i just bought the warbond? i have a job but i dont want to support this because while 6$ isnt much, if this is supported it will be so expensive to have a full arsenal in 2 months. they cut 30$ off the AAA pricetag and go "thats close enough to free to play, we can do rotating stores"
You’re nuts if you think Arrowhead is faultless for telling us to “just grind” 2000 super credits in 5 days. No working person has the time to do that and they know it. It’s an excuse to make a system that digs back into our wallets
look I hate this shit as much as you do, but the super credit grind isn't TOO bad if you speed clear a buncha diff 1 illuminate missions as I've found they generally have the better loot spawns, at least in my experience, even though it won't change the absolutely assblastingly retarded pricing and the fact they shoved what should have been a fucking warbond in the superstore, but at least you can usually get about 20-30 super creds every mission.
Not really, It's still Playstation we are talking about, 100% they told them to make a certain amount, or increase the prices. On top of that, Nearly every modern game does this. Simply vote with your wallet.
I wish Sony would let AH do Xbox crossplay, make tons and not have to lean into microtransactions. No Man's Sky did this, all new features are completely free
I don’t understand how people are calling the new AR “pay to win” when the AR is objectively mid. If it was on the same level as the purifier and they put it in the superstore I would be upset but it isn’t that good. If anything this rifle seems like pay to lose since for 400 credits more you can get a better AR, with the tenderizer, along with the best weapon in the game later in that same warbond
I get that people are not happy about the price, but i also get that they likely are paying royalty to the company that owns killzone. I doubt killzone is letting them use their IP for free, so they probably have to give them a cut of the profit made from the set. i agree the prices are too high but i also understand why they are that way
@AgentKenshin your silly that's not how it works especially because sony dosent own arrowhead they are still a private company so yes they are still paying royalties to sony to use thier content sony isn't just gonna let any company they work with use another IP as a cross over they still have to negotiate terms and pricing of the content
Suggested Loadout: Arc Blitzer shotgun(crowd control) Stun lance(take out their legs and finish them off while stunning the overseers). Strategem Loadout: Orbital laser(for warpships), 500kg eagle strike(also for warpships as well as crowd control). Minigun turret or flame thrower turret(defensive crowd control) and Anti-tank emplacement(for Harvesters and incoming dropships). I'd say impact grenades or thermite for throwables but I personally use throwing knives. I use savior of the free or other armor that has the 50% chance of saving your life.
whats really bad is you defending the stuff with killzone, that is just wild, that pricing and way of distributing fomo stuff is so dangerous and disgusting, whole thing should have been a bundle for half the price at the least ... also the fact that half of the stuff they prepared is already twice as expensive as a warbond and they dont even tell you what the other stuff will be means people will spend all their credits on armors and weapon that they maybe dont want as much and then need to spend money or keep grinding heavily to afford the next part of it, corporate greed scum behaviour at its finest
I feel like people are blowing this out of proportion... All of this is optional and will rotated through the store. You don't have to spend money if you don't want to. Plus there's still nothing wrong with farming credits. And I'm sure arrowhead isn't to blame. They were ready to go with the whole warbond thing. Sony definitely just changed it last minute to be greedy. AND the super store maybe getting an update. So hopefully we'll be able to get more in the store at a time. Yall just need to chill the hell out
Yup just farm the super credits lol it's not a big deal for me to do so. You might be right about Sony changing the Warbond last second which is unfortunate however again grinding credits is not bad at all 🫡
The prices are utterly insane. Also, I really don't like how this was done. This opens the game up to Call of Duty style insanity in the form of random characters from other games running around BREAKING IMMERSION! This should be a Killzone themed HELLDIVERS set of items that SHOULD BE A WARBOND!
From what I am seeing it is absolutely not worth it, however the game's first gun designated as a sniper rifle will be in this collab in the next rotation.
Way to pricy for me to really justify getting it all honestly. I wish it was a small warbond I could work on over time instead of needing to buy it off the super store
Level 10+ dives should give small amount of super credits. (which means) we def should get up to level 15 dives to get some super credits, larger map, more side missions (has to be completed) more time, and one free stratagem from the dss if it ever gets better than poor.
Ya know I can drop a like for that comment. Even though I think it was Sony who made them switch. I love KILLZONE so I bought it and will get the next set. But honestly that’s some pretty level headed thinking.
That's pretty stupid, less than 1% of gaming communities actively leak content. Let alone the fact that a majority of gaming communities don't even interact with social media, news, content leaks, etc. That would be a sure fire way to kill any reputation they have with the community lol.
@@rkgrei I mean, I agree that it's a super quick way to kill relations with the community, but the problem is while 1% of gaming communities actively leak content, I agree with you there too, social media turns that into breaking news for anyone following the game or topic. When Sony leaked the Illuminate MO the other day, you couldn't avoid it. Do I think that some of the fault is on Sony? Of course, everything they touch dies. However, there has been so much content from the game that is scraped from the files and released online and constantly regurgitated by youtubers and other social media individuals that it's difficult to avoid or keep anything under wraps. I'll admit that this is my own personal conspiracy theory and I don't expect people to agree, and in fact disagree strongly in some cases. You'll never get Arrowhead or Sony to admit it publicly, but they have to be aware that their upcoming content leaks like a sieve. I will retract some of what I said in that I hope it was the developers being punitive, that was a bit strong, but something does need to change.
It's a live service game, and it's a THEMATIC gear, so the pricing is ok-ish, plus it will be added into rotation and we can loot SC from regular runs.
1:29 Strange to hear you have that viewpoint. It IS bad, really bad. Having weapons for super credits in a rotating store? And later you even justify it by saying you can farm super credits easily... You get like 200 sc max per hour when doing the most efficient farm, which is poi-hunting on difficulty 1. That is 10!!!!! effing hours of the most boring, braindead and exhausting farming. Come on now.
They literally just announced they're working on reworking the store lol. Also idk how ur getting such low amounts of sc from grinding. I made 3k very quickly
@@Dargonauts I guess you are relatively new to Helldivers, so let me elaborate: I'm not, no. I specifically made a statement about the store pricing. I think it is pretty obvious. I unlocked everything there is in HD 2 long ago and I'm not interested in playing anymore. And the ridiculous pricing in the store, which has increased every so slightly for months now, is a big reason for that. I'm just complaining about having to grind low level missions for 10 hours to even afford one Warbond or a complete store set. If you are having fun, more power to you. I had fun myself for a bit before and after the "nerfageddon". Don't just assume things.
@@garful Arrowhead told a lot of fairytales in the past, so better don't count on that. I highly doubt that you made 3k SCs very quickly. "Very quickly" is a pretty loose term though, so maybe you think 1-2 weeks of non-stop playing is very quickly. Some people have jobs and families though and can't play all day. Arrowhead reduced the amounts of SCs in missions for a reason: They want and need to make money from people buying them. People wouldn't buy them, if they could grind 3k "very quickly".
I frequently rotate my primaries for the sake of battling complacency but I cannot stop using the Blitzer. Works so well against the bugs and the squids. The staggering effect on multiple enemies at once buys me so much time especially being surrounded or in a pinch. Combined with the Rover it just cooks. Not to mention that it doesn’t require ammo and has a decent rpm.
Helldivers is not just a live server game, but it is a BUSINESS. People should feel happy about Arrowhead giving us a way to grind super credits and relatively easy too in the first place.
People acting like sony has a gun to their head in these comments. If its too expensive dont buy it. Corporations only speak money. You do not NEED any of these things to enjoy the game.
It’s literally worse than any other elemental armour, and no enemy currently uses multiple elements anyway. It’s *convenient* but it might be the outright weakest passive from a pure meta standpoint unless your team loves indiscriminate elemental attacks (which they might, I ain’t judging)
The prices are absolutely not ok. 1900sc for a cape, nametag, cc, weapon, cape and armor set? No thanks. License isn’t an argument bc Sony owns both franchises+Killzone is a dead ip and new weapons are also not ok in the sc, especially for that price. And no the fact that we get "free" updates is also not an argument bc the game was advertised as a live service game and those always include free content updates, simple. "But they have to pay for servers🤓" they already make enough money to do that+they are Sony, use your brain Supporting this means that we will get stuff like that more often from now on, probably even more weapons that come into the SS for outrageous prices instead of a WB. HD2 isn’t the first game that uses this tactic and yall still fall for it every time. Throw a frog in boiling water and he will jump out, raise the temperature slowly and he will stay in place. Same thing here. Don’t support shady tactics from multimillion dollar companies
@@fuzzy3383Grateful for what? We had to pay 40 dollars to even play the game, plus PS+ to even play and now they want 20+ dollars for a single warband page. Glaze harder.
My allrounder loadout for bugs is: Torcher Primary, Grenade Pistol Secondary and Gas Grenade. CE-07 Demolition Specialist Armor - (Light, 64 Armor, 536 Speed, 118 Stamina, Perk: Engineering) or; SR-24 Street Scout Armor - (Light, 50 armor, 550 speed, 125 stamina, Perk: Seige-Ready) Strats: 500kg, Strafing, Orbital Precision, Recoiless Allows one to deal with every single problem you can encounter, and has good CC in the event it is needed, except against excessive Shriekers. In the event you're on a map with the Roaving Shriker modifier and aren't adept at using the Torcher to kill them, you can swap out the Grenade Pistol for either the Redeemer, Verdict or Senator and the Gas Grenade for the Frag Grenade. In my original loadout, the Grenade Pistol is for holes, in the 'revision' you have 7 frags to clear holes. The build excels even more if someone in group has the support pack, but is also a solid choice for solo/breaking off game play For bots, swap out the Torcher for the Scorcher. The rest works well.
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Overall Thoughts: I understand both sides of the situation. I'm not a big fan of the prices either, considering a lot of people work 9 to 5 jobs; from my understanding, the price is mainly due to the crossover, which is why it's expensive.
Still a bad precedent. We already let stratagems in warbonds and a secondary in the super store fly, now ALL weapon slots can be expected to be super store items? And let's talk about the timing. Sony intentionally waited for everyone to spend their HARD EARNED super creds on the Urban Legends warbond and it's superstore gear to try and strongarm players into having to spend money on supercreds if they wanted to get gear from this collab, and right before the holidays? The content itself is defendable, but the monetization is absolutely ghoulish and is actively preying on FOMO in ways that I expect Blizzard or Nexon games to handle it.
@@kaijuultimax9407 I don't disagree that the prices are steep. I believe it's all due to the crossover. They're also experimenting with the Shop items and warbonds as of right now. If we're all feeling a bit unpleasant about it, the best way is to let them know through surveys and feedback forms. I'm sure Arrowhead will adjust it based off the community reaction honestly.
''just farm them in game. ''
sorry but 600 + for a weapon and with a armor more than 1500+ is absurd even with farming in game
+ the farm of Super credit is so bad, if we had more fun or engaging way to get them would be way better.
"just farm them in game" by brother in Christ you need to play 200+ missions to unlock everything 😭
All I'm saying is that you don't have to purchase it with real money instead it's best to farm it. I'm glad we have options to do so. :)
Helldivers added cities to the game and the inflation skyrocketed
You mean skyscrapered
@ had a stroke reading your reply. Also this comment was a joke
@@redstoneninja3752 oh oops lol
horrible infrastructure btw
@sci_sciu6919 had 2 strokes reading this diver you are being subjected to mandatory communications studies
Sweet liberty... This is a super inflation!
time to look up Helldivers Inflation on my work computer
Pay your extra cash for a better ECONOMY :D
You can get the stuff from playing the game
All them squid attacks on colonies must’ve raised the prices (definitely smells like sony)
When she asks if you have any major kinks
Before collab: *"SWEET LIBERTY, MY LEG"*
After collab: *"SWEET LIBERTY, MY MONEYYYYYY"*
"DEAR LIBERTY, MY WALLET"
You can always go play a triple A game, I hear overwatch has piles of $20-40 dollar skins that do nothing for you....I love people, they want more content...but only free! We don't want them to make money! Oh and then you probably skip the dishes for McDonald's....
@@adrianr2746the problem isnt that, its that you get Just an armor and a mediocre gun for the money that is the same as 2 warbonds which in the Last ones add 2 armors and early ones add 3,and they add the best Guns in the game, tell me, would i get a mid assault rifle, or the New warbond with the melee weapon and some of the best strategems, Only the mask for 310 sc's are worth it(and the title)
@@adrianr2746 bro… it was a joke😐
BUT, the cost of it in comparison too a warbond is insane, plus I’m like 90% sure this was a Sony
You mean sweet liberty
We are paying the concord tax lmao
Hahahaha
LEGO Horizon included!
This has Sony finger prints all over it
Arrowhead if i remember correctly said that they wouldn’t be doing a collab for awhile
Update/clarification Im more focused on the price of the superstore for the player than the actual collab
The director already named like 20 franchises he wanted to collab with months ago
@ yes but from my understanding I thought it would be something later in late Q1 considering they were fixing the game and they just resumed their regular schedule (that’s why I stated if I remember correctly)
@@Kaleidoscope007 He never specified when and I will agree there was no advertisement but this was their first collab
It was easy to make since Killzone is owned by Guerilla (Devz who made Horizon Zero Dawn) so it was easy to contact them
They own so many IPs. They are greedy. And will just monetize everything.
He didn't say he wouldn't collab. He said he wouldn't collab with anything that wouldn't make sense for Helldivers. Basically, he said if it doesn't turn HD into another fortnite, then he wouldn't see a problem with it. Killzone, as we can see, fits very well into HD.
I think not having it as a warbond is the real issue. the price is to be expected since its a collab and they got make money for a live service game somehow
If it were a slightly more expensive warbond it would be fine but this is a 2000 sc for less content than a warbond
Yes, from the $40 it costs to get the game in the first place
40 usd is cheap and u can gri d it all for free anyway. Its still a good model
My problem is that the prices are higher. If Helldivers are one thing they are stupid. If enough idiots buy it, Sony might start raising Super Store prices.
You sir have a good head on your shoulder, people waste money order delivery from McDonald's which isn't even worth the money if you walk in..and helldivers still isn't like triple A gaming with their 20-40 dollar skins for everything from characters to skins...and god even ammo skins...
Im smelling Concord Taxes after Sonys Fail
Sony just had the game of the year and multiplayer game of the year. Do you really think they're struggling for cash?
I play PC but this is a crazy take lol
@@Shzzaam
It makes sense. Despite winning GOTY, Astro Bot was something that Sony didn't give a fuck about and was surprised it popped off. Most of Sony's exclusives are walking simulators, movie dropout games, or literal garbage. Sony has been fumbling so much that GOTY is like the one escape they have
Can’t actually form your own opinion huh?
wait until your ps plus basic 100 bucks per year soon
Your literally just making shit up, they had 2 nomines for goty, they nearly always have a goty contender, not even just a nominee. Youre just blindly hating @redline841
The reason I’m upset about the price is because for an armour set an a weapon, it cost more than a war bond that has more than double that.
Basically 20 dollars for one weapon, one armor set, and some banners is ridiculous considering a warbond is only 10 bucks.
Would be free for me? I have enough credits...
It stinks of a SONY money grab to me.
Should look at Darktide prices. HD2 is a bargain.
cry more, poor.
Meanwhile League of Legends players are laughing… cosmetic stuff cost money, get over it. I would complain if you could buy things wich make you in fact better in a game. But this isnt the case, stop crying.
People say it's almost as much as two warbonds but in reality it's almost as much as three warbonds given most warbonds have 300SC in them, so you spend 1000 but get 300 back.
They seriously made it cost almost 3 warbonds to get just reskins. I'll just assume sony meddling as ever.
Honestly I feel that the rifle is the most egregious thing it's almost identical stat wise to the liberator carbine, but it cost more than half of the viper commando war bond where you get the carbine on the first page
What I afraid is they are "testing water" if you don't fight back they'll go farther and farther, it's something that will affect the game
You are afraid of arrowhead making money? What???? You kids think so weirdly.
You don’t fight back with something small.
You fight back when they cross a line, we should be aiming to provide a win win scenario, where the devs can make enough money to support the game and the players don’t feel cheated out of their wallets
Blah blah blah.. typical crydiver nonsense
So we're back to bullying the devs and review bomb the game again huh? Please grow up. They didn't point a gun to your head and say spend money for the collab. It's earnable currency
Just play the game and don‘t spend real money in this…nice and easy.
Remember when a warbond had x3 primary weapons x3 armour sets a booster a grenade a secondary weapon and more for only 1000 credits???? I think the arrowhead team need to go back to their humble beginnings with prices. Does anyone else agree? 615 for light armour pen regardless of farming super credit potential is a bit steep
Probably due to license stuff and extra hours to make and integrate all of this. Its pricey? yes, do you need them no matter what or are you going to loose the fun if you don't have it this week? no at all, so chill. Keep enjoying the game if you still are with the things we already have, these are only skins and a weapon that doesn't really break the game or something thats needed to have.
I mean the devs gotta eat man, people complaining about not getting enough free stuff is wild
@@Arc69 The game isn’t exactly free, you have to pay $40 to play it, and 615 credits for one gun and another 500 for the armor not including the helmet and cape is a little ridiculous considering that a full warbond which contains more content is less than those two things. So the complaints about the steep price of the new items is completely valid.
@@Arc69 this game was the most popular when it came out with millions of sales. Im not worried about them eating. They even felt comfortable enough to go on a mass vacation on the release date of Escalation of Freedom. Remember that?
nah, you guys complained about war bonds being boring so they switched it up now
Everything in the super store, including the player banner, has increased in price. I really hope this isn't a precedent for the future.
Don’t kid yourself, it absolutely is. If it makes a profit, which I guarantee it will, this will never stop.
The more you play the more you hoard credits, I'm not very happy about it but it's not pay to win yet so it's optional still,
the last 6-7 months has been one L after another for helldivers why expect it to be different now?
It natural that the prices would be higher for collab items, so I don't think this is a precursor to them raising prices on regular game items. Moreover none of these new items are really all that good, the gun is useful in so few situations I don't think I'd ever choose to use it if I had it, and the armor passive is really only going to be helpful if your team has flame, gas, and arc weapons. You will almost always be better off using armor with other passives. Personally I don't even think the armor looks that good aesthetically. I think most people won't be willing to buy useless cosmetics at that high of a price so AH and Sony will figure out on their own that this isn't the way to go.
@Volfur2251not even true lol
2:00 its almost double the price of a warbond just for the FIRST PAGE so its going to be like 4-5 warbonds worth of super creds , thats really not a small amount at all . and warbonds have lot more items than this . its ridiculously overpriced
Honestly what they need to do is get rid of the current superstore model by not using timers and just have all of the superstore items catalogued in their specific sections in the store whether it be armor, weapons, capes and other miscellaneous items. They need to get rid of timers and make it so we can buy any item we want from the superstore at any moment.
And when they add a new item they can just have it displayed in the front of the superstore for a week so people know it's there but then keep it in the catalog where people can buy it any day they want similar to war bonds.
This way there is no FOMO and the player base can be more agreeable to having these items in the superstore because they can just grind at their leisure and buy them whenever they feel like it. Effectively turning the superstore into just one massive war bond.
Holy hell. Thats one expensive reskinned liberator. No shot gun, and no scope.
How is it expensive? You can earn super credits in game.
615 super credits is not easy to grind in a short time period
@Boringusername537but it's still obtained through the game. Most live service just have the cool stuff behind a paywall.
@@kylemcfarlanthat’s still a ridiculous grind m8. Even coming from me who religiously grinds for credits and doesn’t spend cash.
@ kinda missing the point there bud… Spending a couple hours of my life to unlock a warbond is sensible enough for me. But an entire fucking warbond worth of credits for a cape and gun? You can choose to stay on your knees thinking these prices are fair but I won’t. That “Free” excuse only carries so much weight
Surveys should be done in-game, not that dumpster discord.
You expect the company who cant be bothered to copy/paste stats to do the same for a survey sheet? Lol keep coping.
@@reaper_exd7498 which they have already been implementing more and more stats. keep coping
I personally couldn’t care less about the things like armor and titles (especially the armor because it’s likely we’ll get new armor with the same passive in a future warbond), what I do dislike is the weapons being in the item shop. Not because the prices are a bit inflated, but because it time-gates unlockable content that I believe is more important than the other items being sold. I would hope this store rework adds a special section that allows for weapons to be purchased at any time.
It should've been a warbond, the price is insane, even with grinding, it takes way too long
about 4 or 5 hours which is a lot but still i think the prices are high cause its a crossover they have to pay the other company as well
Both games are owned by Sony
@@sepehrpooladi4418that's still 2-3 hours too long
@@baconlover09423 thats not how it works but even then u let sony get a say in it every thing will be 20 bucks
@@sepehrpooladi4418 you can grind 1900 credits in 4~5 hours?
0-50 super credits per level 3 mission, at the least would require nearly 40 missions. If all you're doing is farming the super credits alone, that's hours and hours of work for a single weapon and armor set. If you're with friends, that may cut down the time, but who can convince their friends to ONLY look for super credits every mission and not actually play the game they're playing? Lets not even think about the fact that most missions, I personally only get about 10 or maybe 20 super credits. I'm not doing 100+ missions to farm 2k super credits for one half assed weapon and an armor set. I'd much rather use that 2k to get 2 warbonds just chock full of weapons, armors, strategems and skins.
You could convince me, and medium is the wrong choice, you want to do level ones, smaller map
@@aw3someinc175 same strat i used
I'm not a fan of these store prices, but farming is actually super chill. You do level 1 maps and you don't even have to extract. You'll get around 20-50 a run which takes about 5 minutes with more than one person.
I'm ngl it's super easy to grind em just ask people in the disc. This will legit take less than 2 hours.
Trivial Bug missions are 95% farmers, just matchmake and you’ll find a farm.
The whole "you can always farm the super credits" thing would be a solution if you'd get more than 10 per game
It's hilariously slow to do. Might get 40 an hour. Could go to work for an hour and buy over 1k. That's what they want.
You can actually make quite a few super credits on a trivial mission. clear the POI's and do not finish the mission. just return to ship and launch another trivial. with 2- 3 players you can very quickly make 200-300 sc.
I just don't like the answer to overly high prices being "just farm it out"
If farming is the answer, then you want to have access to the fun upgrades of the game you have to play the game in a not fun way.
@@RyanBackstrom tell me please what i need to do, if i want to enjoy the game instead of turning it into another job?
@@dzangordenakha3995like the guy said, if you can sacrifice an hour, go to Mastia, very flat and clear skies, hit every poi, don’t extract, bring or find a buddy for bunks. I was able to get 400 in about 90min
@@RyanBackstromyeah you can make a hundred credits in half an hour IF and only IF you get lucky
Not a huge fan of the recent shift to selling weapons in the superstore, one for 200SC and one for 610SC. These are pricey enough that for a freemaxxer this really sets back your warbond credit grind. It's also a ton of credits for what would otherwise amount to a single item in a 1,000SC warbond.
You can always go play a triple A game, I hear overwatch has piles of $20-40 dollar skins that do nothing for you....I love people, they want more content...but only free! We don't want them to make money! Oh and then you probably skip the dishes for McDonald's....
@@adrianr2746 Bro is just a rage baiter copy pasting in everybody's comments lol, bait used to be believable.
@@adrianr2746AI comment
@adrianr2746 Did you really just try and strawman with overwatch!? Lol cope harder bud. This game is trash and there are plenty of games better than this slop
@@adrianr2746 Not to mention we paid for this game, the rest of the "triple aaa" games youre talking about are free..... Not that I expect someone just copy pasting a strawman statement to engage in intellectual thinking.......
1:58 glitch unlimited forgetting some people are employed 5-6 days a week to make ends meet as usual
So am I still have time to play
Yea all you got to do is call in work for a week and grind all day lol
There is five days tho you can get about 800 credits in an hour by farming
the items are in rotation.surely you can save SC to buy the stuff you want next time they come around...
I think he’s more so arguing about the people screaming p2w at the sky and shaking their fist. The armor seems really good sure but it’s not like you can’t beat a difficulty 10 no problem without it. And it doesn’t offer anything really that armor we’ve had before does. More ease of use as it has all elements instead of just one.
i think people are forgetting that all of these items cost almost twice as much as a warbond for maybe a 3rd of the items a warbond would give. doesnt matter if you can grind super credits or not, the intent is clearly for players to buy super credits to get all the items they want
For everyone saying "just grind the super credits bro!"
You need to get 1900 or so super credits to get everything here. For those of you who aren't so great at math, that's around 200 missions with how little super credits you get from each mission, assuming you get 10 from each.
Some of us have lives and do not have the time or desire to grind that many missions. It's either 200 missions or 20 bucks to get all the crossover items.
That's bullshit, and you cannot convince me otherwise. I can tolerate war bonds being 10 bucks because you can unlock them at any time and get several items within them for free. It's not a limited-time deal that's 5-10 dollars per item.
Bruh omfg then don’t buy? You can’t afford it? So what’s the problem. Go get a job.
And no, other games being way worse does not justify this. Gamers have let their standards slip way too low.
I don't particularly feel like blowing 20 bucks on some virtual items that aren't even that good at what they're supposed to do @@fuzzy3383. I can afford it just fine, I just have no desire to make that purchase. It isn't worth it.
How you can't see how Arrowhead/Sonys microtransactions are getting worse and worse is mind boggling to me.
@@AlteForeNot really…most of us dont cry about everything, and demand, what we want…
I mean, if you dont like the prices…dont buy it. Its a logical decision.
And tbh…its not like these items are that great…so just dont buy it, and just deal with it.
You cant change everything, so that you like it!
just dont buy it. also SC are RNG based so you just have bad luck in game. because for me ill find 110 to 60 sc every mission. shit to get this warbond that just came out took me 6 to 8 hours to grind the sc for it which isnt bad at all. which was maybe 10 to 15 missions at most so i dont know where you get your math that its going to take "200" missions. seems like you might have a few skill issues man.
I think it was a good way to introduce a collaboration. Yes its a $20 pick up in the super store. Or you can grind in game. I just wish we had a option for a sight on the AR
Just make all Assault Rifles have medium armor pen. Don't get why that isn't a thing. Sub machine guns should be light pen.
Yes yes and yes - when I saw this as a leak I was hoping at least med. pen.
Umm no. You don’t have to have a med pen primary for it to be effective
@@johngone1nonlyyeah you do. The Tenderizer is the only exception and even the DOMINATOR sucks against them when its ammo bounces off of overseers and jetpacks. Stop lying
@@johngone1nonly trying playing any fucking diff 8 + missions with a light pen primary and come back to me. (NOT INCLUDING INCENDIARY AMMO ONES)
Yeah fuck balance even more, why fucking not.
Its not p2w. You don't need this. Best way to protest is to not buy it and provide feedback on forms and forums. Stay strong Helldivers. We are not excempt from the foul machinations of capitalism. Its on us to tap into the trust AH has given us that they will do what is right and we Will. Be. Free. *Salute*
Definitely not pay to win since I got all warbonds without paying a single penny besides the super citizen pack, never bought super credits from the store. Now I can understand if some have busy work schedules, like working at an airport or factories that make you stay throughout most the day and you get only a few hours of playtime when you get home. But buying super credits isn't that pricy either if you have an honest job as people claim.
People forget this fact but hey I’m for supporting the game and devs if they are putting out good work. To each their own, but again you don’t need it.
The ceo literally said the more it sells the more illuminate stuff they can release for free. ITS ALSO OPTIONAL
@@adamallen7070 I agree. Its optional, hence why I say the best way to protest it is to not buy it. If you are not opposed, then do it. Both your statement and mine can be true. We are on the same team here. I'd gladly give my money to AH. They truly deserve it unlike most, if not all, popular games nowadays, but I do agree that this is a slippery slope and that, without turning our backs on AH, we can help them and even protect them, and the game, from external "threats" and pressures from Big Bullies like Sony. 🫡
protest? brother you can get this just by playing the game. Nothing in the game is pay to win considering you get premium currency through playing. Maybe p2gf. As in pay to get faster. XD
the worst part is that as informed on discord post, this is just the part 1 so it's even more expensive in general for the full cross over items.
The Concord tax
The community who were critical of Sony left, now it's just the shills left. The option to pay is there, that's the only thing that matters.
LMFAO you people are so up your own ass it’s hilarious. Not like the player numbers are soaring but go off bud
@@ZaytheRaz just proving his point.
@@ZaytheRaz The numbers of people who commit murder are also going up.
But I guess youd also consider that a good thing, because your sub human brain can only see numbers in green with a big arrow next to them.
@@mantisshrimp6169 how? He has a point they said it's only the shills left playing the game them he said the player count has grown in response you cant say with a straight face that all that's left are shills when the player count has grown with the new content drop
@@mantisshrimp6169 Riight because the fact that player numbers are literally higher after an update proves his point that people that it’s ’only the shills left’. Seriously…I don’t know what goes through y’all’s heads sometimes.
The prices are atrocious.
Selling 5 items (2 of the items being a banner and player title) for the cost of 2 warbonds is absurd.
Nope. Nope. Nope.
Have you ever thought about just not buying it? You could just not complain about it either.
@ have you ever thought about not commenting or being a pH ag? if people don’t complain it’s only going to get worse. I don’t want this game to become Fortnite where we’re paying $20 for an outfit or a weapon. The last thing I want is for this good game to become pay to win.
@@fuzzy3383 We could "just not complain about it", but have you ever considered us "not complaining about it" is the attitude responsible for the state of world affairs? Have you considered staying silent like a good, little subject is both humiliating and damaging to your wellbeing, dare I say enjoyment of the most simple things?
Yeah, just don't complain. Never ever.
It does seem a bit unbalance right ? It’s a small set of gear that if you wanted the whole set would cost about 2 warbonds worth of SC. True you could grind it out in game or cave and buy it but it does seem overpriced in my opinion. I had enough super credits for the rifle so I snagged it and it honestly was kind of disappointing, I took it out on a lvl 5 mission against the squids, within a couple of minutes I was missing my eruptor rifle.
If we want this game to continue for years to come and get regular new content then it has to be profitable for arrowhead. If you don’t want to buy it then just grind for it
I am so happy that Helldivers is so back again I never stopped playing it
I am playing the game while watching your video lol 😂
Only Super Earths best Helldivers do this.
Never stopped, and I don't plan on stopping
@@ArsonicFoxx me too!!!!!!!
500+ hours and not stopping. For Super Earth!
Never trust Helldivers 2 Fans to think straight...
All Helldivers 2 content will be normally priced, a crossover is where two companies collab so the other ends is expecting to make money, this is how its normally made people need a reality check, besides Arrowhead has been super generous in the way no other studio has
Aside from Halo Infinite theyre the only ones who ever had battle passes that you can buy anytime with ingame currency and complete it later
I bought all of the items with real money and will continue to do so to support arrowhead, this studio is the fromsoftware of multiplayer
Facts
How can you say such a sentence as an opener and the yap about how they have to buy licenses when both franchises are owned by the same company and while the IP is completely dead.
Never trust a victim of consumerism to have common sense lmao.
Imagine defending the price raise from 1000 for 2-3 weapons, 2-3 armor sets, 2-3 capes, 1-2 stratagems, multiple skins, nametags and 300sc to 1900 just for one armor, one weapon, one cape and one nametag.
The amount of delulu cope is crazy
Btw the collab is with killzone which guess what is owned by Sony too and plus whats even worse is initially it was a warbond so they decided to be greedy and split up the warbond to get more money and this is only part 1 and part 1 costs nearly 2000 sc and part 2 most likely will have the same price which means it will in all cost 4000 sc, plus this makes me worry for the future as initially it was a melee now an assault rigle how long till they start charging money for 1 stratagem in the superstore another thing is this is less content than a warbond so if we allow this they are gaining more money for doing less
Brother, killzone has been dead for 11 years, and both ips are owned by Sony.... there is no licensing fees involved here
Sony is the publisher of Killzone and Helldivers sooooooo they are making money either way.
Unpopular opinion time. None of you deserve your own cape.
People forget what the creek was at the time. Reinforcements were twice what our intelligence said. Not sure what was happening on the manufacturing end, but only a few of our weapons worked the way they should have... and we were green. The creek couldn't be recreated today, even if we wanted to.
Yes!! Killzone is the game hope for another one. For helghan and super earth!!! Good stuff guys
Finally, an AR with Iron Sights
I see what you did there 😏
Loadout suggestion: S.T.R.E.E.T.
(Squid Termination Road Effective Elimination Tactics)
-SG-225SP Breaker Spray & Pray
-P-19 Redeemer
-G-4 Gas
-Any armor with the "Siege-Ready" passive
-AX/AR-23 "Guard Dog"
-MLS-4X Commando
-Eagle Strafing Run
-A/MG-43 Machine Gun Sentry
(one of the last two will be swaped with the Fast Recon Vehicle)
Playstyle: Use the Spray & Pray and the Guard Dog to quickly kill enemies near you. G-4 Gas area denials against hordes of voteless while you are on the run. Eagle Strafing Run can quickly clean a whole street of enemies infront of you. Machine Gun Sentrys short cooldowns allows it to constantly be up. Place it on a crossway to help clearing a whole area of enemies. A Commando Rocket either to a Warp Ships door or an Harvesters upper leg will destroy them both easely. Use the P-19 Redeemer to quickly disable their energy shield.
The name is so creative that's awesome
This is a shift in stratagy tho.
Right after every bought the warbond they do this. This is clearly trying to promote more microtransactions.
Its not that horrific right now but it is a departure from their path. They are going down a very unloved road right now.
We give an inch and they will take a foot - fans defending this change don't see the bigger picture.
Can't forget the FOMO to make sure that the people that just bought the war bond now being out likely can't farm all the super credits needed because of the sheer needed time to farm out the super credits ensuring that the f2p players don't have any loose super credits so they are forced to buy or miss out. In otherwords, objective "FOMO" (Fear of missing me out)
Hopefully we will get another killzone game that’s not a psp game
One warbond page worth of items for the price of 2 warbonds... With a time limit and a promise to be available again "at some point down the line"
Price gouging and Fomo at the same time.
CALLED IT!!! Happy that Killzone is getting some love, and the weapons and armor are spot on (outside the cape but we know Arrowhead won't budge on that front). The StA-52 feels like a straight up upgrade to the Liberator even if it isn't and we all know how most of the playerbase feels like the Liberator is worthless. If the StA-52 had the under barrel shotgun like it did in Killzone 1 then everyone would be saying that it is 100% P2W but would also like it more. The W.A.S.P. is great at dealing with the Overseers just be careful when you fire it when mobs are around you unless you want to self detonate. If the leaks are anything to go by then the only way people are going to get a primary sniper weapon is to shell out Super Credits and then we can have the real discussion on if things are P2W.
The rifle is a flat sidegrade to the Liberator Carbine and a downgrade from the Tenderizer. The thing was dogshit in killzone and its dogshit here
Love the people saying “tHe StOrE wIlL rOtAtE” as if that’s not the whole reason people are mad. Time and time again has AH taken the moral high ground on FOMO in microtransactions just to jack up the prices of everything and hit us all with FOMO for the first crossover? I’m not going to stop playing and I’m not going to boycott or anything but I don’t think we should be here just thanking AH for spitting in our faces after they’ve acted all high and mighty compared to other companies using these marketing practices.
in my opinion, that should have been a "Super Warbond", creating another category of warbonds dedicated to crossovers only. Make it cost more, like 2/3k super credits, so that it sounds more reasonable to spend that amount of super credits on a warbond more then on a single item in the shop. Furthermore, having it as a warbond would give more time for farming super credits to all players, who wouldn't have to wait for the next shop cycle before actually getting the items
1,975 credits for what frankly should just be a warbond. Seems like a rip-off to me.
6:05 if I remember correctly killzone has bigger assault rifles so maybe we will see some more variants that do have medium and possibly heavy armor pen.
pay to win isnt the issue its the price. Almost $20 in super credits typically gives us up to 6 outfits plus weapons. I dont care if it is earnable in game they know that by putting it out at this price that people will end up buying credits to catch up. Just keep it consistent and make it make sense.
“ I don’t care if it is earnable in game “ LOL did you even watch your word. The fact that they made it farmable makes the the game a huge difference from MANY other games and you should be thankful for that not don’t care for it. And you have a choice to buy it or not, It won’t affect the game much lol unless you want to support the team to make more content or else just don’t buy it or farm for it.
Shit you can grind for free.. now gfy goober
Just go Grind for it and quit complaining! It’s not that hard in a day you can have all of this from 75 credits this morning I’m already half way done getting the entire superstore now sure I’m off work today but even if I was in 2 hours I could easily get the 610 credits for the weapon and rinse and repeat everyday since now superstore will be longer and give you more time to grind for the stuff you want
The new rifle feels awesome. It's the closest we have to a primary LMG as it's basically a budget Stalwart. It's a shame that they scrapped the Righteous Revenants Warbond and put all the items in the shop at insane prices, especially when the new armor set passive and the new weapon are actually good
2:27 asked for thoughts and answers to opinion based questions before going over the information. But hey still got you a comment before I finished the video
I do like the crossover event. However, I do believe it's fine for it to be in the shop. The new weapon is like a high mag liberator, damage is similar to the base liberator no p2w aspects there. The armor is better out of the rest of the selection because the rest is just a cosmetic base afterwards. To me, it's not that big a deal. But I do understand that there are people who don't spend as much time on the game as some of us do.
I'm ok with the items being on the super store. I am sitting on 11,500 super credits, so its nice to have something to spend them on.
Exactly see you’ve been grinding and sitting on super credits of not someone can just drop 20$ and get the super credits and be able to grab everything is what I did I pay for battle passes etc and maybe they have to pay hellzone some fees to for having a cross over or like the creator said they have 4-5 days to grind for super to and anyways I like things like this sometimes cause not everyone can pick it up then have to wait for the cycle to come back so you can feel some what special on the field cause not everyone has it at the moment you know
@@al215gamingnah y’all are tweaking bruh it’s pricy but still free
@ lmaoooo yo facts and people bugging for the first time in what 2 years the game been out and it’s the first 20$ purchase if only you got no super credits but someone else on here said they was sitting on 10K plus from grinding I guess and if you have 1k plus then drop 10$ or grid people just cry and want these handed you’ll feel better if you gotta buy it or grind for it lol 😂
Another issue i dont see anyone talking about is the release window of this crossover. The squids show up drawing big player numbers just in time for a new warbond with 2 HIGHLY requested stratagems and the HIGHLY requested melee weapons so most players either bought or used saved up SC already. Releasing this collaboration knowing a good chunk of your player base is tapped out on premium currency is equally as predatory as the prices themselves.
Honestly i think its a pretty cool crossover. Do I think it should be a war bond? Yes but considering its a collab , im willing to bet that the other party wanted a better way to get money, least thats my guess. And honestly the fact it can come back around via a normal rotation and not a limited once every few years is always a plus
It would have been nice to have a war bonus and 2 more pages in the superstore, with weapons, capes, and armor, that way the devs can get people to put money into the new cosmetics and players aren't forced to buy the superstore items, everyone wins.
Btw the collab is with killzone killzone is owned by god damn sony as well ao the other party is sony too, another thing is that this costs more for even less content than a warbond they are quite literally making more from soing less and this is gonna worsen if we do nothing about and eventually they might end up chargings us super crdits for 1 stratagem
I’d rather it be a 20$ warbond with more stuff then this tbh.
Collabs can be more expensive but I think they should also have more stuff if they are going to be pricey
How many people don’t get that KZ is also owned by Sony is really frustrating.
Yeah Sony wanted more money from Sony so Sony came up with the idea to split up a warbond so Sony could get more money
The other party only achieved pissing off potential customers exactly when the game has an all type Hype again.
I just want a legit everyday AR
Tenderizer has been my go too as of recent. Along with the triple barrel shotgun sidearm, and incendiary impacts. Pair it with the Napalm and Laser Orbital, an eagle strike or two instead of the laser, and a guard dog you're set
Let's be honest, the whole collab should be priced around what just the primary costs...
no money made from the collab. no more collabs
is it that big of a deal if luxury items made from a collab (in which both companies try to get money) are priced more than usual? Besides, sure, its overpriced, but not that big of a deal... you can get a warbond's worth of SC in a couple hours, and you probably already have a couple hundreds SC from other completed warbonds.
If you really dont have time or money for this, it will come back, its in rotation! surely you will have saved up some currecny between the cycles...
Drop all parts of the Killzone premium by 50-100 SC each and it will be more viable. It should cost more than standard as a prestige item, but not by this much. I think I will wait and only get it if my regular play gives me a lot of access credits or a discount comes in.
I dont think weapons should be in the superstore, having to wait to unlock a certain weapon isnt fun
Could we get a Super Earth Flag to run around with as a secondary and maybe a spear on the end... I think it be fun to run around like butters from sp😅
something alot of people overlook is the fact that the real problem is what is coming next. if they get away with this what stopping them from raising the price of warbonds and making more overpriced and FOMO items. we have seen this happen many times in gaming and I would hat this game to become anti consumer like overwatch,fortnite etc. there was NO reason for this not to be a warbond. i love this game and arrowhead I have almost 600 hours and have bought the game on PC and ps5 but I would hate to have this gem of a game be ruined.
😑 you can get it for free just by playing the game to get super credits! Stop whining like a spoiled kid!😂
@@wreck993 did you even read what I wrote? the current prices are not a problem.
@@wreck993"Stop whining"
*Is whining himself*
@@mtt3000 i agree that cross overs should be more expensive. but this is outrageous. 20 dollars for a basic weapon and armor set? and like I said in the post. this was supposed to be a warbond which costs 10$. this one costs 20$ and there's a second part which likely cost the same. maybe even more so that 40$ for something we could've gotten for 10$.
I am one constanlty shitting on the team but this has
1: nothing to do with the dev team
2: you dont need to buy it and finnaly
3: it will come back to the shop
11:12 that's from Ace Ventura spear in the leg
Oh no, the really cool looking licensed armor is slightly more expensive because that's how likening FUCKING WORKS. people need to grow up.
I don't care about Killzone. And with these absurd prices I never will.
F that pricing and that weapon being locked behind it
Please don't ignore that Helldivers 2 is NOT a FREE TO PLAY game.
These prices are NOT ok.
AH needs to paddle back and release this as the Warbond it was supposed to be!
It's not free to play but it is live service. The alternative is release the game with no post launch additions. The team would then move onto the next game
These Items are not that great…so why even bother to buy them?
Just dont buy it? You just got a ton of content for free 2 days ago
You can get sc for free soooo
Just go grind the the super-credits it’s not that hard people saying this are usually the people paying to win on call of duty and unlike call of duty here you can actually earn the credits instead of ONLY having to buy them
People are way too dramatic about this imo. I see being a lil surprised by the prices but like 3-5 hours of supercredit farming will get you the gun and armor. The rest is unnecessary cosmetics. Besides, AH has gotta make money somehow. If this game was made pre 2015 the illuminate would've been a paid map expansion of sorts. Cosmetics like this are a simple tradeoff.
At the end of the day this crossover is just a fun thing for mid to late game players with extra credits to buy. I really doubt AH is going pay to win.
Im calling it now: if this collabs succeeds(seems like it bc most of you are NPCs apparently) then we will get shittier and possibly less WBs and the good shit will be in the SS for prices like this
Yep, a lot of ppl missing the bigger picture - this is how they are gonna keep revenue up when thing's plateau and they can't do Xbox crossplay (which would be the smarter solution)
People defend anything nowadays, at this point they're bots programmed to blindly believe anything and repeat the same two lines and thing they actually have a point.
Then dont buy it
Dud, it's literally optional it's not P2W, is it convenient maybe,but if it upsets you this badly don't buy it. not like they were begging for your money anyway its a crossover set of course it's gonna be more overpriced than base game items. It's been that way since crossovers have been a thing, do i think it should be a warbond instead of shop items, yea but I'm not gonna bitch and moan over something that in the long run is not going to ruin my overall enjoyment. It's one thing if it's were an overpowered weapon and armor but its not, it's from all reports pretty mid as far as armor and weapons go, we shouldnt shame people for buying something they like. It dosent hurt you in the long run not like you were gonna buy it any way; everyone I've seen here has been going on like it's the end of the world and how it's P2W and it's ruining the game, but it's not it's completely optional dont like don't buy it you're not gonna suffer for not buying it, not like its gonna be the next meta build that's a must have for high difficulties.
That new AR is okay with the siege ready passive. 20 dollar crossover pack is fucking crazy
People complaining it’s $20 for the whole package. Meanwhile people spending the same price in other games for one fun skin.
Ngl this is actually a really good point. I feel like it has to do with the fact that it’s become common to hate on Helldivers for every little thing. This is just another excuse for people who don’t like the game to just complain.
@ bingo. Like that comment: oh I can’t wait to delete this it’s p2w. Bro this is one of the most engaging and fair groups of developers I’ve ever seen. Good luck getting that from activision or EA.
@@BuffyBillyGibby this game is also far from pay 2 win. Like, how can a game based on shooting hordes down be pay to win 😭. Besides everything is balanced cause all the items are op now. Either way, the rífle and armor for the collab aren’t that good to begin with.
@@VeronicaGarcia-yy8wn exactly
Yea but its also likely the same people who own every warbond too and that's 10 bucks per warbond there's about let's say 8 give or take one or two that's 80 bucks but okay let's go off the argument of well you get 300 back well even then you get just enough to get 2 free warbonds but it still costs you 60 bucks and the war bonds thus far have had weapons that are close to meta or just ok armor sets that are meta a couple of stragems that are OK but then they call the crossover stuff P2W and overpriced which yea it's expensive roughly the price of 2 war bonds for half the content but its a crossover they could easily say if you miss out on its rotation it's gone never coming back but its not its gonna rotate and from all reports tge armor and weapon are pretty mid overall not bad but not great either but yet we demonize the crossover optional content that's not gonna impact gameplay regardless of if you own it or not
Logically, the killzone stuff is an unexpected surprise that doesn't diminish or effect from the new patch content either way. Emotionally, there's a new primary weapon on the super store that costs almost 3/4ths of an entire warbond. It doesn't matter that it's just another liberator variant without any armor penetration. It doesn't matter that it's a one-off cross-over promotional.
dog this game is 40$ you cant be putting a 6$ gun in a rotating fortnite store. That "grind to earn" argument goes away when it takes TIME to get sc from games, and you put items
on a timer and we dont know when they'll be back.
How do i grind 600sc in 4 days if i just bought the warbond? i have a job but i dont want to support this because while 6$ isnt much, if this is supported it will be so expensive to have a full arsenal in 2 months.
they cut 30$ off the AAA pricetag and go "thats close enough to free to play, we can do rotating stores"
You’re nuts if you think Arrowhead is faultless for telling us to “just grind” 2000 super credits in 5 days. No working person has the time to do that and they know it. It’s an excuse to make a system that digs back into our wallets
look I hate this shit as much as you do, but the super credit grind isn't TOO bad if you speed clear a buncha diff 1 illuminate missions as I've found they generally have the better loot spawns, at least in my experience, even though it won't change the absolutely assblastingly retarded pricing and the fact they shoved what should have been a fucking warbond in the superstore, but at least you can usually get about 20-30 super creds every mission.
A really bad sign for the future
Not really, It's still Playstation we are talking about, 100% they told them to make a certain amount, or increase the prices.
On top of that, Nearly every modern game does this. Simply vote with your wallet.
@@everfreesnarrations35 thats why its a bad sign. Sony is trash and they ruin everything they touch. We juat cant get their claws off AHs throat
I wish Sony would let AH do Xbox crossplay, make tons and not have to lean into microtransactions. No Man's Sky did this, all new features are completely free
12:41 if and when you figure out how to do this hidden emote please share it with us
I don’t understand how people are calling the new AR “pay to win” when the AR is objectively mid. If it was on the same level as the purifier and they put it in the superstore I would be upset but it isn’t that good. If anything this rifle seems like pay to lose since for 400 credits more you can get a better AR, with the tenderizer, along with the best weapon in the game later in that same warbond
The AR is pretty good against the illuminate, it'd be better if they had either less hp or the gun had medium pen
I get that people are not happy about the price, but i also get that they likely are paying royalty to the company that owns killzone. I doubt killzone is letting them use their IP for free, so they probably have to give them a cut of the profit made from the set. i agree the prices are too high but i also understand why they are that way
Well considering Sony own both IPs yes, they are using it for free.
@AgentKenshin your silly that's not how it works especially because sony dosent own arrowhead they are still a private company so yes they are still paying royalties to sony to use thier content sony isn't just gonna let any company they work with use another IP as a cross over they still have to negotiate terms and pricing of the content
Suggested Loadout: Arc Blitzer shotgun(crowd control) Stun lance(take out their legs and finish them off while stunning the overseers).
Strategem Loadout: Orbital laser(for warpships), 500kg eagle strike(also for warpships as well as crowd control). Minigun turret or flame thrower turret(defensive crowd control) and Anti-tank emplacement(for Harvesters and incoming dropships). I'd say impact grenades or thermite for throwables but I personally use throwing knives. I use savior of the free or other armor that has the 50% chance of saving your life.
whats really bad is you defending the stuff with killzone, that is just wild, that pricing and way of distributing fomo stuff is so dangerous and disgusting, whole thing should have been a bundle for half the price at the least ... also the fact that half of the stuff they prepared is already twice as expensive as a warbond and they dont even tell you what the other stuff will be means people will spend all their credits on armors and weapon that they maybe dont want as much and then need to spend money or keep grinding heavily to afford the next part of it, corporate greed scum behaviour at its finest
He's probably sponsored
6:26 that’s what the P-4 Senator is for, and the extra challenge makes the game more fun.
I feel like people are blowing this out of proportion...
All of this is optional and will rotated through the store. You don't have to spend money if you don't want to. Plus there's still nothing wrong with farming credits.
And I'm sure arrowhead isn't to blame. They were ready to go with the whole warbond thing. Sony definitely just changed it last minute to be greedy.
AND the super store maybe getting an update. So hopefully we'll be able to get more in the store at a time. Yall just need to chill the hell out
Yup just farm the super credits lol it's not a big deal for me to do so. You might be right about Sony changing the Warbond last second which is unfortunate however again grinding credits is not bad at all 🫡
isnt it time limited though?
No not at all as stated in the video it will pop back in the shop at later time and this last about 5 days.
@@GlitchUnlimitedactual moronic take glitch
@t4nker22 Yes, but it'll be back in due time
The prices are utterly insane. Also, I really don't like how this was done. This opens the game up to Call of Duty style insanity in the form of random characters from other games running around BREAKING IMMERSION!
This should be a Killzone themed HELLDIVERS set of items that SHOULD BE A WARBOND!
Should have been a war bond, this is ridiculous. I changed my review to negative and listed why. I encourage others to do the same.
Obviously it’s a bad decision but this is a really small thing overall, barely affects the game at all
Nice in-depth video. Thanks. :)
It's not p2w... the new weapon is a lesser version of the sickle and the new armor passive is MID at best...
From what I am seeing it is absolutely not worth it, however the game's first gun designated as a sniper rifle will be in this collab in the next rotation.
Way to pricy for me to really justify getting it all honestly. I wish it was a small warbond I could work on over time instead of needing to buy it off the super store
Level 10+ dives should give small amount of super credits. (which means) we def should get up to level 15 dives to get some super credits, larger map, more side missions (has to be completed) more time, and one free stratagem from the dss if it ever gets better than poor.
I hope it went from a Warbond to being highly priced in the superstore as an incentive to not fucking leak shit but no one wants to talk about that.
Ya know I can drop a like for that comment. Even though I think it was Sony who made them switch. I love KILLZONE so I bought it and will get the next set. But honestly that’s some pretty level headed thinking.
That's pretty stupid, less than 1% of gaming communities actively leak content. Let alone the fact that a majority of gaming communities don't even interact with social media, news, content leaks, etc. That would be a sure fire way to kill any reputation they have with the community lol.
@@rkgrei I mean, I agree that it's a super quick way to kill relations with the community, but the problem is while 1% of gaming communities actively leak content, I agree with you there too, social media turns that into breaking news for anyone following the game or topic. When Sony leaked the Illuminate MO the other day, you couldn't avoid it. Do I think that some of the fault is on Sony? Of course, everything they touch dies. However, there has been so much content from the game that is scraped from the files and released online and constantly regurgitated by youtubers and other social media individuals that it's difficult to avoid or keep anything under wraps. I'll admit that this is my own personal conspiracy theory and I don't expect people to agree, and in fact disagree strongly in some cases. You'll never get Arrowhead or Sony to admit it publicly, but they have to be aware that their upcoming content leaks like a sieve. I will retract some of what I said in that I hope it was the developers being punitive, that was a bit strong, but something does need to change.
It's a live service game, and it's a THEMATIC gear, so the pricing is ok-ish, plus it will be added into rotation and we can loot SC from regular runs.
1:29 Strange to hear you have that viewpoint. It IS bad, really bad. Having weapons for super credits in a rotating store? And later you even justify it by saying you can farm super credits easily... You get like 200 sc max per hour when doing the most efficient farm, which is poi-hunting on difficulty 1. That is 10!!!!! effing hours of the most boring, braindead and exhausting farming. Come on now.
All extra content is free how due expect them to make money entitled idiot
They literally just announced they're working on reworking the store lol. Also idk how ur getting such low amounts of sc from grinding. I made 3k very quickly
So you're complaining about having to actually play the game?
@@Dargonauts I guess you are relatively new to Helldivers, so let me elaborate: I'm not, no. I specifically made a statement about the store pricing. I think it is pretty obvious. I unlocked everything there is in HD 2 long ago and I'm not interested in playing anymore. And the ridiculous pricing in the store, which has increased every so slightly for months now, is a big reason for that. I'm just complaining about having to grind low level missions for 10 hours to even afford one Warbond or a complete store set. If you are having fun, more power to you. I had fun myself for a bit before and after the "nerfageddon". Don't just assume things.
@@garful Arrowhead told a lot of fairytales in the past, so better don't count on that. I highly doubt that you made 3k SCs very quickly. "Very quickly" is a pretty loose term though, so maybe you think 1-2 weeks of non-stop playing is very quickly. Some people have jobs and families though and can't play all day. Arrowhead reduced the amounts of SCs in missions for a reason: They want and need to make money from people buying them. People wouldn't buy them, if they could grind 3k "very quickly".
I frequently rotate my primaries for the sake of battling complacency but I cannot stop using the Blitzer. Works so well against the bugs and the squids. The staggering effect on multiple enemies at once buys me so much time especially being surrounded or in a pinch. Combined with the Rover it just cooks. Not to mention that it doesn’t require ammo and has a decent rpm.
Helldivers is not just a live server game, but it is a BUSINESS. People should feel happy about Arrowhead giving us a way to grind super credits and relatively easy too in the first place.
Right. Thats why we paid them $40 for the product.
People acting like sony has a gun to their head in these comments. If its too expensive dont buy it. Corporations only speak money. You do not NEED any of these things to enjoy the game.
Slowly becoming p2w, an armor that protects you againist all indirect damage for an increased price
It’s literally worse than any other elemental armour, and no enemy currently uses multiple elements anyway.
It’s *convenient* but it might be the outright weakest passive from a pure meta standpoint unless your team loves indiscriminate elemental attacks (which they might, I ain’t judging)
Either warbond, or we should be getting bonus super credits.
The prices are absolutely not ok. 1900sc for a cape, nametag, cc, weapon, cape and armor set? No thanks.
License isn’t an argument bc Sony owns both franchises+Killzone is a dead ip and new weapons are also not ok in the sc, especially for that price.
And no the fact that we get "free" updates is also not an argument bc the game was advertised as a live service game and those always include free content updates, simple.
"But they have to pay for servers🤓" they already make enough money to do that+they are Sony, use your brain
Supporting this means that we will get stuff like that more often from now on, probably even more weapons that come into the SS for outrageous prices instead of a WB.
HD2 isn’t the first game that uses this tactic and yall still fall for it every time.
Throw a frog in boiling water and he will jump out, raise the temperature slowly and he will stay in place. Same thing here. Don’t support shady tactics from multimillion dollar companies
Wow, you sound and think so ungratefully my goodness.
If Sony used their brain we would see Xbox crossplay and they would make tons of money without leaning into heavier microtransactions
@@fuzzy3383Grateful for what? We had to pay 40 dollars to even play the game, plus PS+ to even play and now they want 20+ dollars for a single warband page.
Glaze harder.
@@fuzzy3383 You sound like a mindless bot that worships currency.
My allrounder loadout for bugs is:
Torcher Primary, Grenade Pistol Secondary and Gas Grenade.
CE-07 Demolition Specialist Armor - (Light, 64 Armor, 536 Speed, 118 Stamina, Perk: Engineering) or;
SR-24 Street Scout Armor - (Light, 50 armor, 550 speed, 125 stamina, Perk: Seige-Ready)
Strats: 500kg, Strafing, Orbital Precision, Recoiless
Allows one to deal with every single problem you can encounter, and has good CC in the event it is needed, except against excessive Shriekers. In the event you're on a map with the Roaving Shriker modifier and aren't adept at using the Torcher to kill them, you can swap out the Grenade Pistol for either the Redeemer, Verdict or Senator and the Gas Grenade for the Frag Grenade. In my original loadout, the Grenade Pistol is for holes, in the 'revision' you have 7 frags to clear holes. The build excels even more if someone in group has the support pack, but is also a solid choice for solo/breaking off game play
For bots, swap out the Torcher for the Scorcher. The rest works well.