‘Trivial’ is difficulty 1. Difficultly 3 is apparently your best bang for buck in terms of PoIs though, just a few more enemies tho of course. Just quit the match after looting most and do it again.
It's a shame. I heard it was originally gonna be part of a warbond. But it seems highly likely Sony intervened last second. I'm hoping community feedback lets the prices drop back down just a bit Edit: Just some further thoughts. The name of the warbond the Killzone Collab was originally gonna be part of was Righteous Revenants. If you don't believe me just look it up. Grinding Super Credits has and always will be a great thing, but idk solely dedicating myself to running around for an hour or two is boring. Call me lazy, but I rather just farm credits naturally by playing level 10 missions. But I guess I shouldn't complain if I can't put the hours in. Also, I think selling weapons in the superstore is bad. The armors were excusable since you can get the same passives in the warbonds and they are excellent drip. Weapons though, can be a bit dicey because Arrowhead has to make sure it's not pay to win. If the new AR was a cosmetic skin for something like the Liberator then I couldn't care less. But it's an entirely new weapon with different stats so I'm just a lil afraid at what that could mean for the future. Same thing if they decided to start selling strategems in the superstore.
You can get it without spending a dime of your own money, just play the damn game. It's a crossover that needs licensing expenses in order to exist. Genuinely a stupid thing to whine about.
@@jeremybabish2730you do realize nobody is gonna take you seriously when you try to make yourself seem intelligent and condescending probably just belittle you ppl like you are fun to belittle
Isaiah 41:10 - "So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
@@josephsmith688 problem is them promising no pay to win and now going down that route. soon every item in the game will be for real money if they make money from this
@@josephsmith688 are you a child who gets everything bought by mommy or are you a millionaire? Anyone who works for their own money and has a working brain with an adult sense of value should have a problem with how ridiculously expensive microtransactions in games have gotten. What does not being a competitive game have to do with anything? Shits not worth the price they charge for it, that's the issue.
I have mixed feelings about this. I like premium armour, I don't even mind it being more expensive because it's a collab set. But that price point is insane! Almost 2 warbonds for an armour set (with a sick passive, mixed feelings about that too) and a good weapon. CRAZY PRICE
My feelings aren't mixed at all, almost double the price for less content than a warbond(and that's not counting the fact that Warbonds also give you super credits back) is absolutely ridiculous. These are some F2P prices in a 40 dollar game.
More importantly, it's the first time we've had actual FOMO in the game. Warbonds are always there, you can buy them at any point down the road. A colab set in the super store, though? We don't know if it'll ever come back.
it is obvious considering the stun baton was around 200SC, this is from SONY IP and those bastard need to recoup their losses from the failure that is Concord. sorta expect SONY from now on will do more scummy shit to helldivers and we players should ready for that
People complaining that they don't get all the new items for free just for existing shouldn't dissuade them, super credits can be acquired in game without spending any real money if you didn't know
@@s_t_r_a_y_e_dPeople keep saying this without any evidence. Arrowhead made a live service game, they are designed to monetize users: You're lying to yourself
My problem is that these rotate and you have to get them quickly before they’re gone. You’re pressured to spend money so you don’t miss out. If they were always available for purchase, I would really have no problem with it.
This is Sony’s work. They had a horrible year in sales, especially with the failure of Concord. It was very clearly intended to be a warbond given the thumbnails we saw that got leaked, but Sony likely saw a greater money making opportunity through making it a limited time* thing. *We can assume the items will be back in the store later based on some tweets Pilestedt had made.
Maaaan I don't like having new weapons being sold in a store on rotation same as the Baton I wish they'd put it in a new Warbond or something instead... Really cool stuff though, love the designs, especially the AR
it looks like it was supposed to be a warbond called Righteous Revenants, but it was changed for whatever reason. The devs did say they're going to rework how the superstore works since the rotation is starting to get really long, so I wouldnt worry too much about that
@@udontknowme00 my guess is, that sony, who also owns Killzone wanted a rather high cost for the warbond prob what all the items now cost individuelly (ca 20$), but now you can buy just what you want(armor and weapon). I guess it was a middleground compromise beteen AH and Sony
@@udontknowme00 That's good to hear they're already looking at the rotating store problem. I guess they're experimenting to see if people will buy stuff in the super store instead of warbonds and seeing what people will pay for them. Guess all the stockpiled SC players farmed at release is hurting their ongoing revenue if they have to resort to upping the price like this 😅
At this point most people want the game have bought the game, sony wants long term profits and adding more purchases means it's harder to get everything by grinding, meaning more people will buy credits.
I don't really think it's an issue until they offer something that is op to the point of necessity or if it was for a limited time, which to my knowledge AH stated that would not be the case with any Super Store rotations. That and if they ever had some form of PVP in the game to where it became pay to win.
I just don't understand why this wasn't just a free crossover event where we could just complete a few challenges and enjoy the new gear. A cool cosmetic event after months of fumbles would give a lot more goodwill especially with the illuminate being released so well.
Nice to find someone who grinds supe creds but also understands that most people dont have the time and energy to do what feels like a mind numbing chore.
“Dude just spend all your time in diff three running around doing nothing” I would rather literally get a new job to fill that time and get more money. I want to play Helldivers 2, not metal detector simulator
Honestly don’t like that their are weapons outside of the warbonds that can disappear for long stretches of time and the armour is even more of a problem should have been in a killzone warbond
You can farm 1000 credits in a few hours at the moment. The "premium" currency is only premium if you have more money than time, which a lot of people do.
It's typical arrowhead game design. They spend hundreds of hours making sure magazine model reflects number of bullets, give different reload animations to full vs empty chamber, but lmao they ship an underbarrel that's purely useless. Oh, let me guess, the underbarrel launcher is also "just a ceremonial weapon" ?????
It ain't an M203, just a weirdly shaped handguard. The StA-52 actually has an underslung shotgun in Killzone 1, but not in Killzone 2 and 3 - the one in Helldivers 2 is based on the latter, which is kind of a missed opportunity.
Voteless swarms let you get away with light armor pen weapons. I save my support weapon for the overseers/harvesters and use my primary to mow down the zombies
@@epicgamerzfail4575 yeah maybe they will add a unit that buffs the voteless to make them insanely fast or something like that, as long as you take out HVT the zombies aren't a threat. Much easier than having too many bots or bugs alive.
you literally can get Super credits playing the game, super store items are never 'PRIORITY' items, those be warbonds. Everything in Suepr Store, War bond will have better.
I don’t mind it being expensive + in the shop. But locking the armour passive behind the expensive armour???? Hell nah. They gotta make another armour that adds that passive.
The gun not having a scope makes it a little awkward. I think those iron sights are crud, and the liberator carbine and the smgs give you at least a red dot. So ill stick with one of them.
would have preferred some sort of actual event, or atleast a warbond. though I presume the reason it's not a warbond is to make it more expensive. Assuming the second wave is about the same total price as the first it's about 4k SC (40USD). I'll be a little more charitable than I really should be since SCs are grindable, imo the crossover is overpriced.
@@ator181All of the warbond stuff are basically cosmetics with some useful stratagems but I wouldn’t call it “content”. The real content we got was the illuminate invasion which was 100% free and accessible to every player. The killzone stuff is higher price because it’s premium crossover cosmetics. The rifle itself isn’t that much better than the regular liberator so I’m not sure why people are crying about this.
@@themissingpeace7956 you're welcome to disagree on semantics, we can just call the crossover weapons armors and cosmetics, and warbond rewards, items if you'd prefer. the crossover doesn't justify the magnitude of price increase it has gotten imo. value is of course subjective and you're welcome to buy them if it's worth it for you, but for me they're not.
Honestly, I would just wait till the next superstore rotation, the Armor set just looks better, and I’m sure the weapon would be way more worth it; plus with the feedback of fellow helldivers, I’m sure the price would drop next rotation 😅
While I do think the prices are slightly overtuned, directly comparing them to warbonds isn't entirely accurate. Mainly because of the fact that warbonds require medals to get through whereas when you get something from the super store, you get that item immediately. When you factor in the collab tax and the capability to earn SC naturally, it's not THAT far off. Having them be in warbonds would look better though.
Every gaming company that thinks 20$ (1/3rd the cost of a full price game) is a good starting point for skins is literally mentally ill. I'm loving marvel rivals ATM and it's the same thing like I know you need to make your money but JESUS CHRIST 20$ to get Thor to have a cape???
While I don’t like the overpriced items either( I don’t buy sc anyway so I don’t really mind that much)this is just incorrect, where the hell did you get that number from?
@@carsontinglerI’m starting to think the only reason they added the ability to occasionally find super credits was so that idiots like you defend every price hike no matter what because you can technically grind it. This singular assault rifle costs more than half of a warbond. That is strictly a rip off, and I will not accept any buts about it.
@donovanjoseph737 dude, you dont need to buy it. You dont get some magical p2w advantage that you cant live without, you literally can just farm diff3 missions for a little bit
@@donovanjoseph737indeed. Before I didn’t care. Everything in the premium shop was just cosmetic versions of warbond gear and warbonds are all 1k. That’s fine because there is a lot of content for 1k and I’m fine with that grind but nearly TWO warbond’s worth of SC for the full set, well that is something that would make up 1/3 of a warbond since armor+helm+cape+weapon+banner+emblem is one page of a warbond with 3 pages. Ridiculous.
I think the fact that the new AR only has shitty ironsights whereas all the other roughly equivalent weapons have proper optics including variable zoom scopes warrants a mention
I’m cool with it being in the superstore. The more unique items are in rotation the more incentive you have to keep playing the game and paying attention to super credits found in-mission. The ONLY complaint I have is the SC costs are stupid. It almost costs as much as 2 warbonds to get everything.
I just hope the Whales didn't all shell out 20 bucks to buy it... if Sony doesn't see an up tick in suoer credit purchases from this, they likely won't do it in the future. I wish this was a mini-war bond, maybe 4-500 super credits for a single page packed with the weapon and armor.
Reload speed or peak physique is far more impactful as long as the first continues to work for support weapons, and the latter apply to the "shooting" keybind. Imho.
The WASP is definitely an anti medium oriented weapon but it can deal with the harvesters in a pinch. Spam it with the swarm mode instead of using the artillery mode than it should go down with 2 canisters assuming you get the shields down first. Artillery mode is for grouped up enemis, so ATM primarily an Overseer in the middle of a bunch of Voteless.
imagine if they released a star wars crossover where you could get boba fett's armor and there was a wrist rocket secondary and an upgraded jetpack that could hover for a few seconds
hitting the weak spots on hive guards is so easy that i don't even consider light pen an issue on bugs. I mostly just take the carbine so maybe i'll splurge for this or maybe i'll vote with my super creds n hold back
Through carefully calculating these weapons via my *super* 🤓 EXCEL spreadsheet, assuming velocity is the same as the Liberator/Lib-Carbine (900m/s) -- the DPS (at full auto), it performs about 19% better than a Liberator, 16% worse than a Carbine, and 44.76% worse than a Tenderizer (set to 850 RPM). Overall a bit middling in damage but solid at fair ranges. Of course, compared to something like the Concussive it's actually a whopping 62% more DPS. Damage wise (Taking median into account between 0m and 500m), it is virtually identical to the liberator and the penetrator. If you take into account when the magazine empties (4.25 seconds), this weapon does the most damage out of all assault rifles in the game based solely on spending the entire magazine at 3612.5 damage. Funny enough, the only other AR that comes close is the Concussive, at 3566.25 damage in 11.25 seconds for one full mag's worth of damage. Ammo conservation fairs a bit better, boasting that larger magazine. Lasting nearly twice as long as the tenderizer, 1.25 seconds faster than the Carbine, and is identical to the liberator at 4.25 seconds firing time. As expected the Concussive is the GOAT of ammo conservation with a massive 164.71% better time-to-reload value. So at full auto, it's about 19% better than the liberator in both DPS and damage by empty. It is about 16% worse DPS than a Carbine, but 17.83% better in damage by empty. Tenderizer is 44.76% better at DPS, but 14.84% at damage by empty. Full chart below, probably will get garbled by youtube, rip. 🤓 After 1 second of firing (DPS) Distance (m) StA Tenderizer Liberator Carbine 0 922 1346 747 1074 1 922 1346 747 1073 10 919 1341 744 1070 15 914 1334 741 1065 20 908 1324 736 1058 25 901 1312 730 1049 50 886 1288 718 1031 75 864 1253 700 1006 100 836 1208 677 973 150 795 1144 644 926 200 744 1063 603 866 250 684 970 554 797 300 619 869 502 721 350 551 765 446 642 400 482 661 391 562 500 408 550 331 475 Median: 850 1230.5 688.5 989.5 Difference (%) - +44.76 -19 +16.41 Time 'til Reload (s):4.25 2.5 4.25 3 Difference (%) -41.18 0.0 -29.41 Damage by Empty:3612.5 3076.25 3614.625 2968.5 Difference (%) -14.84 0.06 -17.83
The only thing worth buying is the helmet to color coordinate with future black armor. The armor, cape, and weapon are useless. But the title is pretty cool.
I think they should change bile chargers so that instead of exploding with enough damage to one shot you when you kill them they leave a gas cloud with all the same code as a gas grenade
2 warbond in a row YES, but THAT, HELL NO ! I really hope with this drama it will become a regular Warbond at 1000 as every other. If not, Sony and ArrowHead GFY !
Bile titans and spewer's spew isn't acid damage. It is counted as explosive. Only the zap from illuminates' walker is electric as well as their tesla towers. So this passive serves for 3 enemies specific. Two of which have only one attack that is one of thoses damage. Then the latter is just a turret.
For the rifle, I think an important question is just how many mags the new urban legends armor gives for the gun. If it gives 2 mags, then I think that it has more ammo than the liberators, but idk how the rounding will work with its base 7 mags.
That price is insane for an armor set and a new weapon. I really hope the price comes down a bit, I could probably only afford the weapon with my grinded super credits.
Weapons in a warbond is a slippery slope, but I didn't think it'd get to this so soon. Exclusive primary and passive limited until the next rotation? I don't care what the price is, that is fucking ridiculous.
they should have made a unique killzone warbond, charging so much for individual items feels scummy even knowing that they have to charge more for the license
Yeah these aren’t worth it in terms of price to what we get. Should be a $10 deal at most like warbonds, given the amount of content in them in comparison.
This is only part one as mentioned in the release notes. We can't see the whole picture, but I agree this first wave of items, available in the superstore, is not a good look
I’m fine with unique weapons being available for purchase. I’m fine with unique armour being available for purchase. What I’m not fine with is prohibitive pricing … AND What I’m REALLY not happy about is my lack of self-control to not buy the credits to get them 😂
I’m still gonna buy the armor regardless. It already cosmetically look better than the dreadnought armor that makes me look like a puffy boi. If I could change the color of my armor then yea I would run the dreadnought more but it sucks that the first flame armor in the war bond looks a lot cooler but the armor rating is really small
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This has CommieSony written all over it, or at the very least NOT the main AH dev team feel. It has a grenade tube underneath and I don't believe AH would make that sort of mistake.
Just so you ppl know, this is part of a phenomenon of games under Sony recently having egregious monetisation because Concord flopped so badly and losing minimum $100M and Sony wants to recoup that by increasing stuff like this. We have evidence that it was planned to be a regular warbond (banner)
i mean i think it makes sense that they're charging for it cause this is a whole different IP under a whole different developer, so i think at least _some_ money should be directed that way for royalties and such
The reload of this assault rifle is actually the slowest of all of the assault rifles, almost all of them have sub 2 second with the tac reload I think
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600 SC is simply madness, at least boost the drop rate of SC
just go farm trivial missions for like half an hour
Oh boy, I sure like to grind in my fullprice game to access new content. I surely have nothing else to do but to do repetitive tasks for hours on end.
@@carsontingler for real, took me less then a day to farm 1-2 warbonds, people are just mad because they lazy to farm
@@carsontinglerwhat trivial missions?
‘Trivial’ is difficulty 1.
Difficultly 3 is apparently your best bang for buck in terms of PoIs though, just a few more enemies tho of course. Just quit the match after looting most and do it again.
It's a shame. I heard it was originally gonna be part of a warbond. But it seems highly likely Sony intervened last second. I'm hoping community feedback lets the prices drop back down just a bit
Edit: Just some further thoughts. The name of the warbond the Killzone Collab was originally gonna be part of was Righteous Revenants. If you don't believe me just look it up. Grinding Super Credits has and always will be a great thing, but idk solely dedicating myself to running around for an hour or two is boring. Call me lazy, but I rather just farm credits naturally by playing level 10 missions. But I guess I shouldn't complain if I can't put the hours in. Also, I think selling weapons in the superstore is bad. The armors were excusable since you can get the same passives in the warbonds and they are excellent drip. Weapons though, can be a bit dicey because Arrowhead has to make sure it's not pay to win. If the new AR was a cosmetic skin for something like the Liberator then I couldn't care less. But it's an entirely new weapon with different stats so I'm just a lil afraid at what that could mean for the future. Same thing if they decided to start selling strategems in the superstore.
no need to bomb the game just dont buy it and they will ignore feedback, look at their spreadsheets and do what the spreadsheets say.
You can get it without spending a dime of your own money, just play the damn game. It's a crossover that needs licensing expenses in order to exist. Genuinely a stupid thing to whine about.
the reviews just get AH punished, if you wanna punish Sony, yes dont buy it
@@jeremybabish2730you do realize nobody is gonna take you seriously when you try to make yourself seem intelligent and condescending probably just belittle you ppl like you are fun to belittle
Not reviews
Short answer is NO.
Long answer is HELL NO.
NOT JUSTIFIED❌❌
yeh but
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I must strike fear in the enemies of mankind
@@theutheone 🐑Little sheepy boy says "Yes Sony, it's OK to make super expensive micro-transactions! I'll pay!" 🐑
@@theutheone simp
Isaiah 41:10 - "So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
I'm not paying double the price of a normal Warbond for less content.
Paid weapons set a bad precedent
But due to all the crying in here it seems like you and everyone else has to pay for it 🤣
It's no competitive game. Where would the problem be anyway?
@@josephsmith688 problem is them promising no pay to win and now going down that route. soon every item in the game will be for real money if they make money from this
@@josephsmith688 are you a child who gets everything bought by mommy or are you a millionaire? Anyone who works for their own money and has a working brain with an adult sense of value should have a problem with how ridiculously expensive microtransactions in games have gotten. What does not being a competitive game have to do with anything? Shits not worth the price they charge for it, that's the issue.
Thats a horrible justifaction because people are complaining that these prices are on par with that of a warbond 😅 @josephsmith688
@@reilynn7891 But you can get it for free in Heldivers so where problem?
I have mixed feelings about this. I like premium armour, I don't even mind it being more expensive because it's a collab set. But that price point is insane! Almost 2 warbonds for an armour set (with a sick passive, mixed feelings about that too) and a good weapon. CRAZY PRICE
20 bucks is crazy
Warframe ect is so much cheaper
Yall dumb
I agree. They should not lock weapons and armor passives behind paywalls this expensive. It goes against the "fair price" they showed all those months
I'm still completely blown away that only one armor set offers a 30% throwing distance increase for strategems.
My feelings aren't mixed at all, almost double the price for less content than a warbond(and that's not counting the fact that Warbonds also give you super credits back) is absolutely ridiculous. These are some F2P prices in a 40 dollar game.
More importantly, it's the first time we've had actual FOMO in the game. Warbonds are always there, you can buy them at any point down the road. A colab set in the super store, though? We don't know if it'll ever come back.
Im just glad most people understand this has Sony written all over this
it is obvious considering the stun baton was around 200SC, this is from SONY IP and those bastard need to recoup their losses from the failure that is Concord. sorta expect SONY from now on will do more scummy shit to helldivers and we players should ready for that
@@ZzVinniezZyea seeing as how it's a sony game I'd say you're captain obvious. It can also be obtained for FREE. stop beating a dead horse
1975 credits for the whole thing is absurd, and they've got another wave coming? i hope they're reading the steam discussions
its not AH, its Sony. Both are Sony IP's and both are completely powerless to fight against it without severe legal and financial punishment
People complaining that they don't get all the new items for free just for existing shouldn't dissuade them, super credits can be acquired in game without spending any real money if you didn't know
@@s_t_r_a_y_e_dPeople keep saying this without any evidence. Arrowhead made a live service game, they are designed to monetize users: You're lying to yourself
With this much backlash hopefully all future war bonds will be warbond.
My problem is that these rotate and you have to get them quickly before they’re gone. You’re pressured to spend money so you don’t miss out. If they were always available for purchase, I would really have no problem with it.
Yeah, whoever put the price at 2000 credits need a mouth full of democracy… managed democracy
It was Sony but at the same time it's not difficult to obtain it.
My ass could grind an hour straight and either the correct straight and get around 3000 SC. So it's not hard to get just time consuming.
@RYZEN-4070-TI-SUPER-OCbro if you can get 3000 credits in an hour please enlighten me or let me come wit you
Some Sony exec saw the cod bundle prices and said “yeah that’s fair “
@RYZEN-4070-TI-SUPER-OC how do you get 3k SC in an hour?
This is Sony’s work. They had a horrible year in sales, especially with the failure of Concord. It was very clearly intended to be a warbond given the thumbnails we saw that got leaked, but Sony likely saw a greater money making opportunity through making it a limited time* thing.
*We can assume the items will be back in the store later based on some tweets Pilestedt had made.
It's literally not Sony's fault. Shams admitted it was AH's choice in the discord.
Wait so the killzone items won't be in the next warbond anymore? Do I really have to wait until it's back in the store again?
Maaaan I don't like having new weapons being sold in a store on rotation same as the Baton I wish they'd put it in a new Warbond or something instead...
Really cool stuff though, love the designs, especially the AR
it looks like it was supposed to be a warbond called Righteous Revenants, but it was changed for whatever reason. The devs did say they're going to rework how the superstore works since the rotation is starting to get really long, so I wouldnt worry too much about that
@@udontknowme00 my guess is, that sony, who also owns Killzone wanted a rather high cost for the warbond prob what all the items now cost individuelly (ca 20$), but now you can buy just what you want(armor and weapon). I guess it was a middleground compromise beteen AH and Sony
@@udontknowme00 That's good to hear they're already looking at the rotating store problem.
I guess they're experimenting to see if people will buy stuff in the super store instead of warbonds and seeing what people will pay for them. Guess all the stockpiled SC players farmed at release is hurting their ongoing revenue if they have to resort to upping the price like this 😅
At this point most people want the game have bought the game, sony wants long term profits and adding more purchases means it's harder to get everything by grinding, meaning more people will buy credits.
I don't really think it's an issue until they offer something that is op to the point of necessity or if it was for a limited time, which to my knowledge AH stated that would not be the case with any Super Store rotations. That and if they ever had some form of PVP in the game to where it became pay to win.
I just don't understand why this wasn't just a free crossover event where we could just complete a few challenges and enjoy the new gear. A cool cosmetic event after months of fumbles would give a lot more goodwill especially with the illuminate being released so well.
This decision has Sony's dirty paws all over it.
The answer is money
Because Sony dumped an ungodly amount of money into concord that they are scrambling to recuperate it.
it's SONY....they need to recoup their losses from their big failure that is CONCORD
Sucks this was a freemium thing, I'm lucky I grinded a shit tonne of super credits but not everyone has the time for that
Nice to find someone who grinds supe creds but also understands that most people dont have the time and energy to do what feels like a mind numbing chore.
Exactly my problem I manage to get 1 campaign completed in a night due to time constraints makes farming sc really hard
“Dude just spend all your time in diff three running around doing nothing” I would rather literally get a new job to fill that time and get more money. I want to play Helldivers 2, not metal detector simulator
Honestly don’t like that their are weapons outside of the warbonds that can disappear for long stretches of time and the armour is even more of a problem should have been in a killzone warbond
It _was_ ... Sony butted 8n from the looks of it.
Bro I got the video notification on my phone and it said “Helldivers 2’s First Premium Ass” thought I was trippin lol
That will be next warbond 😂
Sony needs $$
Wasn't this suppose to be a Warbond on leaks? Feels like Sony is trying to get back some money from the Concord failure using Helldivers 2 store.
It's sad to see so many people buying into this nonsense. 1 armor set and weapon for the same price as two war bonds is insane. Sony do better.
Thought we had to buy it. From all the outcry here is seems mandatory 😉
honestly, their money, their problem
You can farm 1000 credits in a few hours at the moment. The "premium" currency is only premium if you have more money than time, which a lot of people do.
@josephsmoth688 Pea brained response ngl. “It’s not mandatory” isn’t a good excuse for shitty practices
@@stephenartigues6027 I didn't lose anything with this. No cent, no battle^^ You: Lots of tears it seems.
Having an M203 grenade launcher on the gun and not being able to fire grenades is such a jebait
It's typical arrowhead game design. They spend hundreds of hours making sure magazine model reflects number of bullets, give different reload animations to full vs empty chamber, but lmao they ship an underbarrel that's purely useless.
Oh, let me guess, the underbarrel launcher is also "just a ceremonial weapon" ?????
Are y’all stupid that’s a flashlight
I think it’s just a flashlight
Kinda like how the mp5 can have a light in the handguard
What weapon exactly are you talking about?
It ain't an M203, just a weirdly shaped handguard. The StA-52 actually has an underslung shotgun in Killzone 1, but not in Killzone 2 and 3 - the one in Helldivers 2 is based on the latter, which is kind of a missed opportunity.
I don't bother with any primaries that don't have medium armor pen. Especially at difficulty 8 and up, pretty much useless unless you have insane aim.
You're right but my sickle don't miss.
Voteless swarms let you get away with light armor pen weapons. I save my support weapon for the overseers/harvesters and use my primary to mow down the zombies
@@epicgamerzfail4575 yeah maybe they will add a unit that buffs the voteless to make them insanely fast or something like that, as long as you take out HVT the zombies aren't a threat. Much easier than having too many bots or bugs alive.
I do wish it was a bit cheaper, that new passive is nuts though. I hope we get a light armor variant in the second half
Completely ridiculous that they charge this much.
you literally can get Super credits playing the game, super store items are never 'PRIORITY' items, those be warbonds.
Everything in Suepr Store, War bond will have better.
concord tax
@@dualyst. asstrobot goty tax
They charge... nothing. Unless YOU want to spend money on it, everything in the game is free.
@@agp11001 40 usd game XDDDDDDDDD
I don’t mind it being expensive + in the shop.
But locking the armour passive behind the expensive armour???? Hell nah. They gotta make another armour that adds that passive.
Probably will but everyone is so reactionary but it doesn’t help that the first dev that responds is a Sony shill
The gun not having a scope makes it a little awkward. I think those iron sights are crud, and the liberator carbine and the smgs give you at least a red dot. So ill stick with one of them.
would have preferred some sort of actual event, or atleast a warbond. though I presume the reason it's not a warbond is to make it more expensive. Assuming the second wave is about the same total price as the first it's about 4k SC (40USD). I'll be a little more charitable than I really should be since SCs are grindable, imo the crossover is overpriced.
4k for all content, only about 2k for bare minimum, still not that good for less content than a warbond.
@@ator181All of the warbond stuff are basically cosmetics with some useful stratagems but I wouldn’t call it “content”. The real content we got was the illuminate invasion which was 100% free and accessible to every player. The killzone stuff is higher price because it’s premium crossover cosmetics. The rifle itself isn’t that much better than the regular liberator so I’m not sure why people are crying about this.
@@themissingpeace7956 you're welcome to disagree on semantics, we can just call the crossover weapons armors and cosmetics, and warbond rewards, items if you'd prefer. the crossover doesn't justify the magnitude of price increase it has gotten imo. value is of course subjective and you're welcome to buy them if it's worth it for you, but for me they're not.
They can spew out this kind of shit, but they can't fix the audio in the game crackling and being awful.
Also still no DLSS or FSR upscaling when even indie games can do it.
What platform are you on? Sounds fantastic on steam for me
@moogies3754 On steam as well, and it sounds absolutely atrocious whenever there are a lot of enemies or explosions
You're right I'm on PS5 and I don't even have any audio when playing against illuminates lol
With this new strat its really a teamwork thing, one person only needs to bring it other 3 can be AT, AS
Kinda crazy that you're recommending either of these, given the unbelievable price point.
Price point is zero. Play the game, get SCs. Easy as that.
Yeah guys just no life the lower diff for hours on end. It's that easy.
Honestly, I would just wait till the next superstore rotation, the Armor set just looks better, and I’m sure the weapon would be way more worth it; plus with the feedback of fellow helldivers, I’m sure the price would drop next rotation 😅
While I do think the prices are slightly overtuned, directly comparing them to warbonds isn't entirely accurate. Mainly because of the fact that warbonds require medals to get through whereas when you get something from the super store, you get that item immediately. When you factor in the collab tax and the capability to earn SC naturally, it's not THAT far off. Having them be in warbonds would look better though.
Slightly ? lol...
I love killzone but I’m not doing this.
We need remakes, love playing botzone since the servers are shut down
a weapon and armor or an entire warbond, your choice
I got both, and I'm still set for the next 5 warbonds, so...
@@agp11001 either you've been grinding for 9 or so hours or you've bought premium currency, neither of which are viable for everyone
20 bucks is pretty pricey for a cosmetic and a gun
A cosmetic and gun which doesn't out perform half the other armour sets and guns
The truth enforcers smg is better in every way than this.. @bostonarchie3194
Every gaming company that thinks 20$ (1/3rd the cost of a full price game) is a good starting point for skins is literally mentally ill. I'm loving marvel rivals ATM and it's the same thing like I know you need to make your money but JESUS CHRIST 20$ to get Thor to have a cape???
While I don’t like the overpriced items either( I don’t buy sc anyway so I don’t really mind that much)this is just incorrect, where the hell did you get that number from?
@@cairnethunderhoof6225at least marvel rivals is f2p. Hd2 has a $40 upfront cost, which makes the $20 even more egregious.
would really be cool if they gave us a non-collab equivalent for the armor and weapon so we can just earn it via gameplay
u can earn it via gameplay. u can find the premium currency in missions. just go farm trivial missions for like half an hour.
@@carsontinglerI’m starting to think the only reason they added the ability to occasionally find super credits was so that idiots like you defend every price hike no matter what because you can technically grind it.
This singular assault rifle costs more than half of a warbond. That is strictly a rip off, and I will not accept any buts about it.
I’m sure at some point they will, there aren’t any other armor passives that are one and done
@donovanjoseph737 dude, you dont need to buy it. You dont get some magical p2w advantage that you cant live without, you literally can just farm diff3 missions for a little bit
@@donovanjoseph737indeed. Before I didn’t care. Everything in the premium shop was just cosmetic versions of warbond gear and warbonds are all 1k. That’s fine because there is a lot of content for 1k and I’m fine with that grind but nearly TWO warbond’s worth of SC for the full set, well that is something that would make up 1/3 of a warbond since armor+helm+cape+weapon+banner+emblem is one page of a warbond with 3 pages.
Ridiculous.
I think the fact that the new AR only has shitty ironsights whereas all the other roughly equivalent weapons have proper optics including variable zoom scopes warrants a mention
I’m cool with it being in the superstore. The more unique items are in rotation the more incentive you have to keep playing the game and paying attention to super credits found in-mission.
The ONLY complaint I have is the SC costs are stupid. It almost costs as much as 2 warbonds to get everything.
-so long as it actually impacts gameplay
*Buys the title*
I wanna helmet. I already have Pew-Pew Shoota to blast, so... only helmet. Thus glowing red eyes are awesome!
So you're telling me, with this week's and next week's store, it'll cost about as much as buying Helldivers 2 to get this stuff?
I just hope the Whales didn't all shell out 20 bucks to buy it... if Sony doesn't see an up tick in suoer credit purchases from this, they likely won't do it in the future.
I wish this was a mini-war bond, maybe 4-500 super credits for a single page packed with the weapon and armor.
You ask that with all the MTX and FOMO practice we see in every (or so) game we have now ?! ... Sadly no, Whales bring us all to the wall !
Reload speed or peak physique is far more impactful as long as the first continues to work for support weapons, and the latter apply to the "shooting" keybind. Imho.
The WASP is definitely an anti medium oriented weapon but it can deal with the harvesters in a pinch. Spam it with the swarm mode instead of using the artillery mode than it should go down with 2 canisters assuming you get the shields down first. Artillery mode is for grouped up enemis, so ATM primarily an Overseer in the middle of a bunch of Voteless.
The first time im disappointed with helldivers, warbonds are good but buying a gun at the half the price of a warbond is sad
imagine if they released a star wars crossover where you could get boba fett's armor and there was a wrist rocket secondary and an upgraded jetpack that could hover for a few seconds
for 5000 SC*
hitting the weak spots on hive guards is so easy that i don't even consider light pen an issue on bugs. I mostly just take the carbine so maybe i'll splurge for this or maybe i'll vote with my super creds n hold back
The armor passive is good, the rifle is meh, and it's not worth 2000 super credits all told. DONT BUY IT!!!!
They should bring back the Killzone franchise.
Through carefully calculating these weapons via my *super* 🤓 EXCEL spreadsheet, assuming velocity is the same as the Liberator/Lib-Carbine (900m/s) -- the DPS (at full auto), it performs about 19% better than a Liberator, 16% worse than a Carbine, and 44.76% worse than a Tenderizer (set to 850 RPM). Overall a bit middling in damage but solid at fair ranges. Of course, compared to something like the Concussive it's actually a whopping 62% more DPS.
Damage wise (Taking median into account between 0m and 500m), it is virtually identical to the liberator and the penetrator.
If you take into account when the magazine empties (4.25 seconds), this weapon does the most damage out of all assault rifles in the game based solely on spending the entire magazine at 3612.5 damage. Funny enough, the only other AR that comes close is the Concussive, at 3566.25 damage in 11.25 seconds for one full mag's worth of damage.
Ammo conservation fairs a bit better, boasting that larger magazine. Lasting nearly twice as long as the tenderizer, 1.25 seconds faster than the Carbine, and is identical to the liberator at 4.25 seconds firing time. As expected the Concussive is the GOAT of ammo conservation with a massive 164.71% better time-to-reload value. So at full auto, it's about 19% better than the liberator in both DPS and damage by empty. It is about 16% worse DPS than a Carbine, but 17.83% better in damage by empty. Tenderizer is 44.76% better at DPS, but 14.84% at damage by empty. Full chart below, probably will get garbled by youtube, rip. 🤓
After 1 second of firing (DPS)
Distance (m) StA Tenderizer Liberator Carbine
0 922 1346 747 1074
1 922 1346 747 1073
10 919 1341 744 1070
15 914 1334 741 1065
20 908 1324 736 1058
25 901 1312 730 1049
50 886 1288 718 1031
75 864 1253 700 1006
100 836 1208 677 973
150 795 1144 644 926
200 744 1063 603 866
250 684 970 554 797
300 619 869 502 721
350 551 765 446 642
400 482 661 391 562
500 408 550 331 475
Median: 850 1230.5 688.5 989.5
Difference (%) - +44.76 -19 +16.41
Time 'til Reload (s):4.25 2.5 4.25 3
Difference (%) -41.18 0.0 -29.41
Damage by Empty:3612.5 3076.25 3614.625 2968.5
Difference (%) -14.84 0.06 -17.83
With the amount of L’s Sony’s been taking recently, is anyone actually surprised? I mean concord alone was 200million black hole.
The only thing worth buying is the helmet to color coordinate with future black armor. The armor, cape, and weapon are useless. But the title is pretty cool.
Whats up legend!
The ar seems kinda meh, but the armor seems pretty top tier. At least that helps save some sc if Im only getting the armor
Personally I love seeing killzone come back, im glad i farm SC like once a month
I think they should change bile chargers so that instead of exploding with enough damage to one shot you when you kill them they leave a gas cloud with all the same code as a gas grenade
This would have been so dope if it was a 10 dollar warbond. Could have thrown the wasp in there too, for a better package.
I'll be snagging this tonight, got a ton of super creds saved up from playing.
I don't know how folks use actual guns when the Blitzer is right there.
I'll never forgive Guerilla Games for giving up on Killzone.
2 warbond in a row YES, but THAT, HELL NO ! I really hope with this drama it will become a regular Warbond at 1000 as every other. If not, Sony and ArrowHead GFY !
i guess sony is behind the pricing, it's fcking insane
Bile titans and spewer's spew isn't acid damage. It is counted as explosive. Only the zap from illuminates' walker is electric as well as their tesla towers.
So this passive serves for 3 enemies specific. Two of which have only one attack that is one of thoses damage. Then the latter is just a turret.
That armor passive looks super good but I have a feeling it’s gonna be in a armor for a future warbond
I wouldn't have as much of problem with this if they didn't make these limited time premium content
For the rifle, I think an important question is just how many mags the new urban legends armor gives for the gun. If it gives 2 mags, then I think that it has more ammo than the liberators, but idk how the rounding will work with its base 7 mags.
That price is insane for an armor set and a new weapon. I really hope the price comes down a bit, I could probably only afford the weapon with my grinded super credits.
It would be cool if the AR had an option to use that underbarrel grenadelauncher. Just like the shotgun where you can change from flechette to stun
Before anyone blames the devs remember they have to do what Sony says
Weapons in a warbond is a slippery slope, but I didn't think it'd get to this so soon. Exclusive primary and passive limited until the next rotation? I don't care what the price is, that is fucking ridiculous.
I really regret getting the gun. I didn't even notice it was 600 whole credits.
they should have made a unique killzone warbond, charging so much for individual items feels scummy even knowing that they have to charge more for the license
Sony charging Sony for a Sony owned IP? 😂
Yea a killzone war bond would have been awesome. Seems strange to release it in the sc store like that
That launcher looks like the weapons from the matrix moves
Democracy protects is a better pick for armor, after all its not the small hits that kill us, but the one shots
Ill wait for the light variant
I tried out so many guns against illuminates, but my trusty smg is just way to perfect for me
Yeah these aren’t worth it in terms of price to what we get. Should be a $10 deal at most like warbonds, given the amount of content in them in comparison.
Do I like the content? ABSOLUTELY
Do I like the price? It’s a bit steep but given we have extra time for this store round I think it’s doable.
This is only part one as mentioned in the release notes. We can't see the whole picture, but I agree this first wave of items, available in the superstore, is not a good look
Should have had medium armor pen to make it more appealing for the price
"bump up your super credit bank account..."
Yeah, clear the map of all P.O.I.s. Can't farm them like we could 6 months ago, unless....
The price is ridiculous, but running around as a helghast...
I’m fine with unique weapons being available for purchase. I’m fine with unique armour being available for purchase.
What I’m not fine with is prohibitive pricing …
AND
What I’m REALLY not happy about is my lack of self-control to not buy the credits to get them 😂
I’m still gonna buy the armor regardless. It already cosmetically look better than the dreadnought armor that makes me look like a puffy boi. If I could change the color of my armor then yea I would run the dreadnought more but it sucks that the first flame armor in the war bond looks a lot cooler but the armor rating is really small
I like the idea that super earth just has deal with helghast. Maybe wearing masks is relatable
Sweet liberty, super inflation!!!!
Hi Takibo,
is there a way I could know your game settings and your pcs hardware?
I am currently wondering why my game is so doo doo even tho i got some nice hardware, my brother who build the pc is also confused so I am wondering what your using for the game to look so cool while having amazing fps
what are your current specs?
I am so glad I just saved SC lol it was free for me lol
This has CommieSony written all over it, or at the very least NOT the main AH dev team feel. It has a grenade tube underneath and I don't believe AH would make that sort of mistake.
Other than the price I really like this wave of items. I would like it to be down to like 1500 instead of 1975
That's still a 3x price increase from a normal warbond WITH FOMO on top because remember, this isn't all the content.
The wasp itself is great against harvesters honestly. If its shields are down it will easily one shot it full clip
Armor: Maybee.
The rest: *slowly raises both hand showing middle fingers looking at responsible dev as he/she is completely mentally challenged"
Gotta pay that concord tax
Just so you ppl know, this is part of a phenomenon of games under Sony recently having egregious monetisation because Concord flopped so badly and losing minimum $100M and Sony wants to recoup that by increasing stuff like this. We have evidence that it was planned to be a regular warbond (banner)
1000 SC for a bundle of armor is an absurd price, seeing as you can buy 100x worth the value of items from a warbond
It really sucks Sony is milking helldivers because of all its other recent failures
here in the US, wasp means something else.
You know when I first saw that weapon i thought it was a minigun. I'm hoping at some point we get the minigun from Predator 🙏
i mean i think it makes sense that they're charging for it cause this is a whole different IP under a whole different developer, so i think at least _some_ money should be directed that way for royalties and such
Do we know if the armor set coming next week is lighter than this one? I wanna buy the armor but I'd much rather have light than medium armor
1 burst is enough to kill the tripod with the wasp
only problem with the gun is that there should be a shotgun option, since the Helghast under-barrel on their gun was always a shotgun
I really like the idea of crossovers but I don't like them putting it in the shop. Just make it a slightly more expensive warbond
The reload of this assault rifle is actually the slowest of all of the assault rifles, almost all of them have sub 2 second with the tac reload I think