Mom Says Unanswered Questions Make Her Skeptical Of Daughter’s Claim That She Was Molested By Father
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- Опубліковано 16 лют 2016
- Why does a mother say she doesn’t believe her daughter’s claims of sexual abuse at the hands of her father, even though the father is now behind bars after being convicted in court?
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I have a legit question too. Why do her daughters have to prove to her that they were molested by her sleazy father instead of the father having to prove he didn't? Your priority should be your daughters not your husband.
yes for the mother yes, but if she was in a court, she will have to prove he´s guilty
Something like innocent till proven guilty
SHE'S SAYING...YOUR NOT ACTING LIKE ABUSED WOMEN...NOT SAYING SHE'S RIGHT IJS... IT'S AWFULLY SUSPECT FOR A WOMAN TO LEAVE HER TODDLER DAUGHTER OVER NIGHT WITH A MAN WHO SLEPT WITH HIS 10 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER...YOU DON'T LEAVE YOUR CHILD IN THE SAME STATE WITH THAT PERSON...LET ALONE THE SAME HOUSE
Because the mother is dumbed😂😂😂
Because you can't prove a negative. It's the same reason you're innocent till proven guilty, if something didn't happen it didn't happen there's no evidence that can prove it didn't
No, YOU had a normal family while your daughter suffered and refused to believe and still defend him. You have no right to be demanding answers from your daughter.
Very well said
Amen.
Your kids are broken Because you’re weak, selfish, and disgusting.
If you watch the one before this the mother spends from the time she came forward at ten years old until the first appearance in this show manipulating her daughters And telling them she didn’t believe them. From the time they were children!! Yet, people sit here wondering why they are so messed up and why they just wished he actually was a better person. Plus you hear from childhood that oh you are mistaken, no you are just a pathological liar or you imagined it and this is exactly what you get!
I think a common thing that is misunderstood about sexual abuse is the trauma bond created between the abuser and the victim. It creates an intense fear of abandonment and severe attachment. You start to think it’s your job to protect everyone. You feel alone and try not to tell anyone, but it just keeps coming up until you heal.
Not to mention she was so young and it went on for so long that she thought she was in love with her stepdad...there's a lot of psychological trauma that people don't understand
Very true. Very good point.
Yes. And Stockholm syndrome is a very real thing.
Don't know much about these things but if somebody has been abusing you for so long wouldn't it become like a normal routine being the daughter by day and woman at night. And I am sure part of the brainwashing is to make her feel special and loved?
That’s why it bothers me so much when people say why didn’t you just leave blah blah blah
What mother wouldn't believe her own child?
What would the daughter gain by lying about this? A destroyed family??
Seriously...
attention?
@@damoos3. if she didnt get attention when she was eleven why woukd she continue
@@damoos3. No way. I’d believe my daughter first, and protect her. This woman put on blinders, and it surely confused this poor girl!
That's what the mother has to consider for herself, has the daughter ever been a compulsive liar, no, then why would she start now. I'm not sure.
Here's the thing: Janice Dickinson is what one would call not a good witness. Her credibility is not great. But, just bc someone doesn't have great credibility (die to drugs, mental disorders, trauma), doesn't mean they can't be raped.
I believe it was her who was also molested by bill Cosby and when she spoke out about it years back, nobody believed her. Yet, here we are. This happened many many years ago.
There is so much trauma and confusion and psychological torment wrapped up in familial abuse. Hard for laymen to understand. They think they know.
Poor girl, her mother is hammering her...
Calling her daughter a liar and making it all about herself. That is one evil woman.
But think of it this way...
She(mom) is only succeeding in exposing herself and her own monstrous behaviors and justifications, and inadvertently validating this poor, precious daughter of hers whom survived such trauma. When it is finally witnessed by others, all of the behaviors of these narcissistic, self severing, vacuous individuals in our lives, it can be so liberating and healing to know we are not imagining it, that others see it also.!! I think it will be a very empowering experience for her, to have been seen and heard. She was already so strong, probably unbreakable now.
@@mamamarianovits9029 Yes!! If you see the full episode Dr Phil tells her "I believe you"...The poor girl crumbled at his validation but between that and every audience member and everyone on you tube the only people calling her a liar are her mother and this man's two bio children... that's millions of people to 3
@Katie Davenport crocodile tears...misses her daughter's molester...how sick
@@justme-di9rc I haven't been able to find the full episode
I'm sorry, but it pissed me off watching this. I don't understand how Mom is so broken up at the thought of someone abusing her little granddaughter, yet she doesn't seem to believe what happened to her own daughter or care about the impact of those actions on Amanda's life. Amanda deserves enormous credit for being a far better human being than any of her family members even after what she went through.
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It wasn’t genuine she was just playing martyr
Very well said!
All she ever wanted was for her mother to believe her. Even after a polygraph test, she still thinks her husband is innocent.
The man that did this, truly is one of the worst men I’ve ever heard of.
Her mother knows it's true. She'd rather have her husband in her life than her daughter.
@@justme-di9rc
Her husband actually killed himself after all of it came out
So I feel like her subconscious is knowing that he did it but she doesn’t want to acknowledge it.
@@uncomfortablegayleftist6600 i never heard he ended up killing himself...but he was alive during this show so what youre saying makes no sense.
@@justme-di9rc
If you watched the entire show (which I did) you would know that he was in fact NOT alive during this show
Amanda took a polygraph exam, and passed with flying colours.
This happened to her. And her mother continues to echo this sentiment of ‘my husband was innocent’ after the fact.
What about that doesn’t make sense?
@@uncomfortablegayleftist6600 i did watch the entire show...not sure if the full episode is still around but it was
When children are abused they are forced to create a second self to deal with it. The reason I spoke highly of my parents while I was a kid and teen is because how could I do any different? I couldnt act out or contradict them out of fear, and I desperately tried to justify their words and actions because I didnt want to believe they were hurting me. No child wants to think ill of their parents, and we never stop loving them no matter how bad things are. We only stop loving ourselves.
You break my heart, you're so right. It's a kind of Catatonia, almost.
You write and explain this extremely well, Michaela. I hope life is good for you and yours now! Xxx
@@TheCandiceWang As you say, a most heart-breaking and poignant post. PS: I'm not sure where you're from or how old you are but Catatonia were a band from Wales (90's) They did some great tunes inc a Crimbo one with another of our Welsh greats: Mr. Tom Jones! Tis called 'Baby it's cold outside'. Tuneeeee!
My parents taught me to hate them. I hope you’ve had some healing since your childhood.
I feel for her. Her mother definitely should believed her own child! I also was sexually abused by my uncle when I was younger and I have not told my parents because of what they might think.
I hope your are ok . That’s something to not really get over😥😥😥😓😓😓
I hope you know that you're not alone. I went through the same thing and I haven't spoken a word about it 🥺 we will both heal eventually
To all of you who were abuse, I am so very sorry for all of the evil things that happened to you. I also believe this girl and didn't need a lie detector test to prove it.
I was sexually assaulted and I told my aunt right away and then she told my mom and my mom and her did something right away! And the boy hasn't bothered me ever since and he got in huge trouble. That's real love. They both believed me right away and got into action. I don't understand how a mom could be so mean and a bad person not believe to her son/daughter about that? It's so cruel. I don't understand. I'm so grateful for my mom and aunt.
Woaw how awful I’m so sorry for you
Her mother and siblings should be ashamed of themselves for turning their backs on a VICTIM like this. SHE didn't take your husband and father away from you, she didn't destroy your family. That 'man' that you're so desperately defending did. The moment he started abusing that poor girl, HE messed his whole family up. For his own selfish needs no less. Put the blame where it should be instead of putting it on an INNOCENT VICTIM who did nothing wrong and certaintly didn't deserve to be hurt and traumatized. Her mom should've protected her from that monster, like a parent is supposed to do. You ALWAYS believe a victim until you have PROOF that they're lying. Especially if that victim is a CHILD.
This isn't denial on the mom's part. If she really believes her husband is completely innocentand shouldn't be in prison, she's DELUSIONAL and SELFISH and doesn't deserve to be a mother.
No the real question is why did the mother let her granddaughter near him if she had known of reports from her daughter.
She didn’t believe that any of it was true
honestly her mother and her brother really pissed me off during this episode, especially when her brother said something along the lines of "I don't know if I can forgive you" and I'm just like "what? forgive her? she was the one abused, it wasn't HER fault, it was your pervert of a father" that REALLY pissed me off and as for the mother, she knew the whole time, she just wanted to keep her husband and didn't want her daughter, purely selfish, at least Amanda had the support of her husband and grandmother
Her sister is terrible, too. They're only thinking for themselves. Their sister deosnt matter, it seems.
@@TheCandiceWang exactly
I believe that the daughter is 100% telling the truth.
The comments got turned on, lucky us, thanks dr phil.
Do you mean in a sexual way or ...
@@user-rw3rl8ok2w ill let you decide
@@evafraser8821 now my imagination is running wild, thanks
@Rosie Mitchel I just want to know
How is someone supposed to act while being molested
The mother is not even upset that her husband was abusing her underage daughter despite all the evidence. The sick man was convicted and even when her daughter passed the lie detector test she refused to believe her. What a sick demented woman.
If she went to her mom and told her, just to be called a liar, how could you expect for her to let her daughter be around her?
I think it’s Stockholm syndrome ....she does not want to acknowledge what happened to her, she was a victim as a child of course her concept of right, wrong and danger is warped ...it’s her moms job to protect her ...if my child makes an accusation I am not stopping until I get to the bottom of the pot and I’m protecting my child at all costs
pS u should refrain from procreating.
survivors of abuse like this STRIVE for normalcy because they feel like they can achieve it & put the trauma behind for a second TO feel the normalcy they never had. it strength to be honest, it really is. they completely put themselves last, it's the only thing they know. she tried to accept her father as her father, which what child shouldn't? he was in the wrong because he IS wrong. she is not wrong for wanting stability.
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This whole episode had me so angry. I felt awful for Amanda and the way her family treated her and turned their backs on her like this, it makes me wanna scream at them and hug her. How can a mother throw her daughter to the wolves when she needs her the most? It makes me sick. The denial and ignorance her mother and siblings possess is astounding. I hope she's doing much better now.
Which episode and season is it?
The husband seems like a really good guy. I like how he pitched in at 3:34 when she was clearly feeling overwhelmed and put on the spot. THAT'S how you should treat survivors of sexual abuse like this incredible woman. Don't just believe them, love and uplift them.
Here’s where I don’t understand if the mom says that her husband’s innocent then why would she be acting like she’s trying to cover up the crime by going into denial about the sexual abuse that her own daughter experienced even as an adult that sounds suspicious to me there’s two options
1. The mother knew about the abuse before the rest of the family and did nothing about it
2. The mother participated in the abuse by playing the bystander role and refuses to admit it
3. She was forced by her husband to keep quiet about the inappropriate interaction with the daughter or else he’ll threaten her
Because she's a manipulative liar. Dr Phil exposed her...without her realizing it...she thought she was fooling him. There's a reason Dr Phil stays calm and just asks questions instead of accusing...it kept the mother answering. He knows the truth...and waited until the end of the show to say it.
@@justme-di9rcoh I see
You should always believe the victim until the victim is proven wrong, I am so sorry for her and I hope she can live a happy life with her husband and child.
In a way the accused is victim of being accused of crime.
The person is innoceny until proven guilty
@@hiteshadhikari thank you. You SHOULD NOT just blindly accept that the victim is telling the truth. This is why we live in a democracy, not a dictatorship.
@@ewjiml amen
@@hiteshadhikari ok but don’t you think you should be weary of the accused person before judging the victim? Instead of picking sides try to find both sides of the story and not harassing the alleged victim
@Mmm Ee believing enough to take the claim seriously enough to logically judge
But not like believe everything without a trial
My mum's boyfriend started abusing me at the age of 11, l told my mother and she said l Was a liar, so it continued until l was 16 every week,several years later when l had two children of my own, l told her what l said was true, her reply was, l knew you were telling the truth by the words and phrases you said, he had used, One completely messed up. adult who in turn messed all my beautiful children up with my obsessional cleaning and years of bulimia,
🖤 sending good vibes
Sweetheart try not to beat yourself up..you did the best you could with what you had. But today is a new day. Don’t give up on showing your children you CAN become well. Do it for ALL of you. Don’t allow the abuser to steal ANY MORE of your precious life! I pray God heals you and your children 🙏🌷💕
What kind of stupid questions is dr. Phil asking...she is a victim of abuse, she was groomed. She was trauma bonded. Of course she isn't going to say no to him walking her down the aisle. She shouldn't have to explain herself. Amanda should never talk to her family again.
The mother asked those questions. She said the fact that she had those questions lead her to not believe her daughter.
Right. I prob won't be able to see the whole episode but I pray to God that man informed this sick family how a lot of "logical" reasoning won't make sense to expect out of a TRAUMATIZED PERSON.
& this is why some ppl don’t deal with their parents…… blaming the now grown kids for her poor parenting
omgggg he opened up the comments heyy
Poor thing. She was trying to shield the rest of the family by acting as normal as possible because she knew it wouldn't go down well if she told.
That family is not normal. They all need help. If her father did that too her she should not have her 2 year old daughter around him.
This is the perfect example of successful grooming, make her think she as to be a daughter by day and woman at night.
what a brave woman
Why would any daughter lie about this? It is already so hard to come out and tell you story.
That doesn’t make sense you left you’re 2 year old alone around them ? I’m so confused
When sexual abuse comes from a family member is not as similar as when it comes from a stranger. A since of shame is always there when it’s not their fault. They can’t tell anyone, it’s their deep dark secret, so during the day they act like nothing happened.
This is true.
" i am broken " " we all are broken " " dos'nt matter if it's true or not " " believe her husband is innocent " the women is lucky her daughter even wants to look at her for even a second 💁🏽♀️
But you left your child with him?? 🤦♀️ There is NO excuse for that, whether the mom was there too or not!
You know she was still being victimized by her family and really needed mental help.
It’s more complicated than that, and that’s clear to see with the rest of the video. Don’t be so naive things aren’t do black and white.
Exactly
Alot of victims have a relationship with their abusers its sad they can't break away
I do believe I’d keep my daughter away from someone who could hurt her.
That mother is in a denial I don’t know how mother Don’t care about their own children their own daughters
This was infuriating! The brother actually became more hostile towards the sister AFTER she passed the polygraph. He started with being willing to forgive HER and ended with washing his hands of her, but wanting to be around her daughter. I wouldn't let him within a country mile of my daughter, if I was her. His moral compass is beyond busted. The only one who showed any sign of hope was the younger sister. Thank God Amanda found a husband who supports and loves her. She deserves it.
Why would you let your child go there. She’s a bad mother
Why did that mother leave her daughter alone with that rapist.
Deedee needs to stop playing victim.
Who would she let her daughter be with her abuser? Fear, attachment? So many things, years after abusers have a hold over their victims.
Your child comes FIRST lady!
EXCELLENT QUESTION IF KNEW THEN WHY EXPOSE GRANDAUGHTER TO POTENTIAL TO BE SEXUALLY ABUSED....THATS INSANE
This mother is a narcissist...she is the victim and not the daughter. She doesn't take any blame for not protecting her daughter and for not believing her. She blames the daughter and not herself. She gets defensive. This kind of mindset is typical for narcissist
You mean “she is the victim, not the mother”. Look what you’re typing three months ago.
@@anthonyguarino4242 He means the mother thinks that she is the victim, rather than the daughter. "You were molested but I'm the real victim."
@@Nicolae_Mew oh, gotcha!
She’s not a narcissist.
it takes a lot of courage to stand against your family.
I think more importantly you have to question why would she make this up? What motive would she have?
I understand her, I was abused by a family member but still went around because my grandma didn’t believe any of us victims. At some point we just moved on
Her mind was really manipulated
How do you not believe your own daughter?
I can't effin stand the way "Dr" phil questions her like it's an interrogation when asking " well why would you let him walk you down the isle" yadada...smh. No wonder why he's not restored his license.
I'm sorry there is no excuse... I would never allow my child around my father that molested me. He would never walk me down the aisle at my wedding. Everyone knows that molesters never stop, it's a sickness. She is crying but she is wrong.
If she let her daughter be around this man then either she’s a terrible mom or she’s lying.
No abuse victim puts children alone with an abuser. That’s very bizarre to let her daughter be around him
I get it, I really understand her (the daughter) i understand why she let her daughter be around him. Things like this do a number on your head and you really want things to be different to reality so when she said she wasn’t ready she was still in denial mode. I believe her when she said she was desperate for normalcy. It’s very naive to believe that a daughter who was abused by her father cuts all ties the fist chance she gets. There’s a lot to it, other people involved. I don’t think some people understand the gravity of damage that is done to the abused. Yes you would think her instinct to protect her child would have kicked in but it’s just not like that. Women stay with abusive husbands for years and years, they put on a happy front to the outside world, make excuses for him and most people understand this. Why on earth would the situation be any different for a person being sexually abused by their father. The family tie is still there. You would presume that she must hate her father after all he has done and maybe if he was some stranger or family friend she would but like she said she still loved him at that point and wanted things so desperately to be normal. I really don’t think people understand the gravity or enormous courage you have to have to face what happened to you. What she did isn’t uncommon at all.
I believe her because it happened or started so young it became normalized in a way and she learned how to cope in secrecy to avoid more shame and guilt. Until it became too much and she finally needed it to come out. So it makes sense, it's sad that the mother has such a struggle believing her daughter.
No one is going to go against there own family when this happens unfortunately u need to learn how to protect your self because if u don’t protect yourself no one else will either.
the amount of evidence required to successfully prosecute a child molester is astronomical. and what they force a survivor to go through during that trial is horrendous. it's like being r%ped 2nd time, but with an audience. The mother is deluding herself purposefully. she is proper sick.
I believe he molested her. But she left her own daughter there because she thought her mom was there? Your mom doesn't protect children from this man. You don't need to give a child a reason, you say no, that's that. This is why these things are cyclical.
Why doesn't Dr Phil have full episodes of past shows on UA-cam pr some other site, not all of us are able to watch the live shows.
Mother is gaslighting her daughter xxxx
Her asking why would u let my grandchildren be around him if this is true is the only serious question here. I would’ve left and never returned unless ‘‘twas to have the predator and the older woman arrested.
The mothers a true narcissist...lots of acting - whining pretend crying, sniffing...but NO TEARS. All about her troubles. The other children rub her shoulders.
The abused daughter shows true sorrow, true crying it's heart breaking. No comforting hugs from siblings.
It's like she had to suffer with the abuse silently after being labelled a liar...just to have the merest cobwed of a family link.
Some people dont want to lose their family in the process of outing predators. Some would rather be around these disgusting abusers. some people don’t know how to go about these things because your whole family will turn on you if you come out with something like this
now that the comments are open i dont know what to say haha
How does one keep up the facade of peace and family if they don’t just try to play their part? It’s like literally how are those valid questions and prove the dads innocence? It’s awkward it’s hard it’s uncomfortable it’s bad like what is she supposed to say? No because you molested me? And ruin everything again and again and again
I believe the daughter and I believed she suffered. The only thing I question is leaving her baby with that monster. There is an abuser in my family (married into our family) I've never let my daughters go around him or go over to visit that household. There has been a facade to uphold in my situation as well although the whole family knows what he did.
She’s not making any sense!!!
She was groomed. Poor thing. That can be so confusing to her and others. She can appear to want the relationship. Really sad. Hope she and het family are together and well.
This mother doesn’t want to face what her husband did because then she’d have to face the horrors she allowed to continue to her daughter
As a mother I will first believe my children over ANY man. But those questions are relevant. If you know there is a rapist and peadophile in the house, how come you leave your innocent child with him. Doesn’t matter if the mother would be there as she is an accomplice. They would never stay alone with my child even for a second.
Leaving her daughter and exposing the little girl to the same thing she went through,OMG ! No ! She needs therapy
I’m sorry but I’m not giving my child to a child molester to be minded.Not a chance.I find this strange
The daughter is sincere
WOW on so many levels!
This is heartbreaking...she put that in such an effective way that I do not think any child from an abusive home could watch this and not tear up . I know most of us seek to create " normal " families in order to make up for what we went through....I hope she has that...whatever it was in her head when she imagined it . Peace of mind is too much to ask , but I think a happy family is within reason , considering what was taken .
My heart breaks for Amanda! 😢😢😢
I really hope she and that real gem of a husband she has can take their daughter and break contact with her horrible family!!
Big nasty mess He wasn't a Father much less a MAN that should have been given the honor with walking his "Daughter!" down ANY AISLE!.
Wait both of you knew what that sick f done and you send your daughter there?
Such a beautiful girl ...sorry for the upbringing gone wrong
How do you sleep with a man that has sexual thoughts about your daughter versus you?
Her mom failed as a parent because your job is to believe to your children and to protect them from Danger instead she pretends it wasn’t happening!! She shouldn’t of let her daughter spend the night with someone who sexually Assaulted you as child , your putting your daughter at risk and not worth it !!
WTF!!!! Why would you let your daughter go over there without you when you knew what he did!!!!!!
The mother is a liar and sacrificed her daughter for the life she wanted to create.
I believe her but I don't know what kind of a mother would send her daughter to the house of someone who molested her for such a silly reason there's absolutely no reason for a mother to even consider putting her with someone like that
Dangggggg THIS IS CUT THROUGH PAIN!
It's sad to watch demonized people who are able to lie like further of lies and destructions.... God gives strangth to girl-doughther
Maybe she is re experiencing trauma because her daughter is getting older. I wish her all the best
Yes you're right l managed to keep my trauma under control until my daughter neared the age that I was when the abuse happened. Very insightful comment
She’s broken alright.
Please ohh please put these episodes on here ... I've watched the scenes a hundred times ... I want to watch this episodes so bad for years
Idgaf if u touched me ain't no way my kids coming around you point blank! That's weird. I was raised by someone who was touched as a child and let me tell you my parent wouldn't let us go near anyone without asking questions and checking us or making sure nobody looked or touched us inappropriately. You touch a child once especially your own u will touch anyone!!!!!
Where can i find the full episode
Disgusting excuse for a mother and woman. She knows what he did.
Does anyone have the links to the rest of this episode?
Not gonna lie, I freaking HATED Amanda's family!
I don't think I buy this 100%. I am a victim of a sexual assault. I tense up when I hear my attackers name. Im also a daddy's girl. My mother tried very hard to turn us from my father in anyway she could. When I got older I finally saw what she had did and I went to my father and apologized. I was scared of him for no reason and didn't see it until I was grown because of that woman
Your experience is not her experience. People always jump in the comments with they own perspective of how someone should act in certain situations. Because she don't act like you act doesn't mean she wasn't abused. No 2 people act or are exactly the same. That's why GOD made us all different individual humans.
Amazing how she justifies herself
I know for a fact amanda is telling the truth she is my ex back in 2008 and she first told me what was happening i was so mad that she just shut up about it but I knew what was happening
Why wouldn’t you believe your children.