Bryan Kohberger: Strength of 'Stargazing' Alibi in Idaho Student Murders

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  • Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
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    The defense team for accused quadruple murderer Bryan Kohberger filed official paperwork with the court declaring his alibi for the night four University of Idaho students were brutally stabbed to death in 2022. Kohberger claims he was out driving on the night of November 13 to look at the moon and stars. Law&Crime’s Jesse Weber debates the strength of this alibi with criminal defense attorney Andrea Burkhart.
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  • @LawAndCrime
    @LawAndCrime  20 днів тому +15

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    • @Zoolander1205
      @Zoolander1205 19 днів тому +1

      The incognito link doesn't work.

  • @socaldeb
    @socaldeb 20 днів тому +144

    It was refreshing to hear an intelligent, balanced discussion about Brian's alibi update as opposed to the ridiculously sarcastic, immature responses from others who attempt to put themselves forth as "credible" reporting entities. Thank you.

    • @dudenoway5448
      @dudenoway5448 20 днів тому +20

      Thank you! It’s incredible how people are so against hearing opposing arguments. Even if he is guilty, why would hearing him out be bad?

    • @avjam
      @avjam 20 днів тому +22

      Exactly. I lost my respect for the interview room channel. It's a bunch of immature super biased older men.

    • @stephanea5364
      @stephanea5364 19 днів тому +3

      I see you call him buy his name, like you're in love...

    • @GardeningGems
      @GardeningGems 19 днів тому +19

      @@stephanea5364 That is his literal name. He is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Some of us still believe in our constitutional rights in this country.

    • @dudenoway5448
      @dudenoway5448 19 днів тому +7

      @@GardeningGems lmao imagine opposing using a persons name. What difference does it make to not be disrespectful? This comments section has so many brain dead takes

  • @sourlemons329
    @sourlemons329 18 днів тому +21

    “I am made of questions” is literally how I feel

  • @lassebauer
    @lassebauer 20 днів тому +136

    This guest does an excellent job at explaining and clarifying

    • @JustListen43210
      @JustListen43210 18 днів тому +2

      She always does!!!

    • @Kelly_Christina
      @Kelly_Christina 18 днів тому +2

      An excellent job sugar coating some serious Brady/giglio violations in a capital murder case involving the death penalty. This won't end well for the state.

    • @lassebauer
      @lassebauer 18 днів тому

      @@Kelly_Christina Since I'm not a lawyer I had to google the SCOTUS Brady and Giglio rulings. Interesting. So, you think the prosecution will be in trouble for withholding exculpatory evidence and/or non-credible witnesses?

    • @Happyfortunestudio
      @Happyfortunestudio 17 днів тому

      @@JustListen43210yessss

  • @Me_Queen
    @Me_Queen 19 днів тому +56

    Andrea Burhart is probably, if not the only lawyer here without bias. She really is looking at it with a wide-open scope and considering the probability and evidence we actually have. We need more people like her. 🙌🏽 You did an amazing job, Andrea Thank you! 🙏🏽

    • @RefinedQualia
      @RefinedQualia 11 днів тому

      Conspiracy nut just like you

    • @lilorangy
      @lilorangy 8 днів тому

      Well she isn’t the brightest. She literally said “I understand why he’d want to run in November, it’s the perfect temperature” NOT FROM 11PM-4AM & who runs for HOURS

    • @GoatDust
      @GoatDust 7 днів тому +1

      @@lilorangypeople go on several milk hikes/runs. Sorry you’re sedentary.

  • @princesspeach372
    @princesspeach372 20 днів тому +79

    This guest is very articulate and intelligent.

  • @Nikkers8
    @Nikkers8 19 днів тому +41

    Thanks for the unbiased coverage- hard to come by. More Andrea, please!

    • @marie3141
      @marie3141 16 днів тому

      Yes!!

    • @logicalcomrade7606
      @logicalcomrade7606 16 днів тому

      Unbiased?? He literally kept questioning the alibi, after she had explained it to him.
      Andrea seemed unbiased, but the host made up his mind a long time ago. SMH.
      Supposed to be innocent until proven guilty!

    • @calebwalsh8382
      @calebwalsh8382 15 днів тому +1

      @@logicalcomrade7606 I know, Andrea is right. It's really normal to go for a run out of cell service at 4am in winter in idaho. Best time for it actually.

  • @DuiDrop
    @DuiDrop 20 днів тому +49

    beautiful, proffessional and valuable interview! When it comes to this case, it's hard to find intelligent people who are willing to ask questions, discuss every angle without blindly jumping to conclusions and having an open mind. You are also one of the few channels that actually mentioned the defence expert! This is the healthy way to approach matters. I really appreciate this coverage!

    • @DJ_Cub
      @DJ_Cub 18 днів тому +1

      Beautiful is a stretch

  • @valerieprice1412
    @valerieprice1412 20 днів тому +29

    Andrea is amazingly intelligent & makes so many great legal points...

  • @AcmeRocket
    @AcmeRocket 20 днів тому +36

    I go out to the gym at 2am or 3 am and/or running all the time. I turn my phone off all the time. I have never killed anyone.

    • @Rose28r
      @Rose28r 19 днів тому +9

      Make sure you leave your phone on and take pictures. You never know if you'll be in this situation one day!!

    • @ministryofungentlemanlywarfare
      @ministryofungentlemanlywarfare 18 днів тому +1

      Have you ever been wrongly accused? Or know anyone who has been wrongly accused?

    • @DJ_Cub
      @DJ_Cub 18 днів тому +5

      Was your DNA found at a crime scene?

    • @AcmeRocket
      @AcmeRocket 18 днів тому +3

      @@DJ_Cub his touch DNA was found "on an item" at the scene. I am not saying he is either guilty or innocent, but what he has claimed as an alibi, is quite normal, common. The media is suggesting otherwise. The DNA is an entirely different topic.

    • @xxskizzumxx
      @xxskizzumxx 16 днів тому +2

      I don't believe you

  • @whipsandchains1
    @whipsandchains1 20 днів тому +33

    Andrea Burkhart is the best!

  • @ibrubberneckn
    @ibrubberneckn 20 днів тому +44

    Andrea does an excellent job explaining things.

    • @shewearsfunnyhat
      @shewearsfunnyhat 16 днів тому

      Its not an explanation. Its speculation about the evidence. The evidence is sealed and there is a gag order that prevents all of us including Andrea from knowing what evidence there is beyond the PCA and a few court filings that were not sealed when filed.

  • @PamiB306
    @PamiB306 20 днів тому +38

    Refreshing to hear a non biased interview with factual information ~ Thanks Andrea

  • @dory9742
    @dory9742 20 днів тому +21

    I truly appreciate Andrea Burkart and her unbias opinions of facts.

  • @siandavies180
    @siandavies180 20 днів тому +34

    Alibi no worse than ....i was asleep...didnt hear any screaming...saw a man with eye brows!

    • @JohannaTx-
      @JohannaTx- 20 днів тому +1

      😄 yeah. Both has phone confirming them. BK clearly location elsewhere. But frozen shock face in the crime scene.

    • @youthinkyouknowme5551
      @youthinkyouknowme5551 19 днів тому +6

      Problem is Bethany Funke and Dylan Mortensen were cleared by Federal Bureau of Investigation expert interviewers and interrogators to an absolute,undisputed,irrefutable 100% certainty. And keep in mind those agents were brought in from the Denver Bureau to avoid any possible conflict of interest. Three of the victims were found in their beds in the prone position meaning they were most likely sleeping when attacked. One of the standing victims was stabbed in the lungs and neck (mortal wounds) which would make it literally impossible to scream let alone talk. This would be the point where i am exponentially 10 times smarter than you

    • @siandavies180
      @siandavies180 19 днів тому

      😂

    • @GardeningGems
      @GardeningGems 19 днів тому +2

      @@youthinkyouknowme5551Where did you read the autopsy report ?

    • @JohannaTx-
      @JohannaTx- 19 днів тому

      @@GardeningGems Nowhere, just claimed the house was like strait from somekind Assasin Greed game. Dude is also apparently timetraveler strait from Marvel stories. C'moon, somekind of common sense is needed on life.

  • @BasedTexans
    @BasedTexans 19 днів тому +15

    I love Andrea Burkhart. Its so refreshing to hear someone with common sense. Shes not a paid- off talkinghead like everyone else.

  • @Momof2kats
    @Momof2kats 20 днів тому +34

    I’m really surprised to see so many legal professionals either miss the nuance of the paragraph that talks about that specific night or they’re purposefully skirting around it so they have something talk about.
    Nowhere does it say on that particular night he was “stargazing”.
    “….as he OFTEN DID to hike and run and see the moon and stars”. This sentence is meant to paint a picture, to explain where he routinely went and the reason he goes there.
    Next sentence talks about THAT specific night, all it says is that he “drove throughout the area….”.
    Everyone, including law professionals, keep referring to this hobby as if it were a ridiculous thing to even consider. All you people need to get out the house and touch some grass.

    • @JohannaTx-
      @JohannaTx- 20 днів тому +6

      I was just wondering same thing the other day. All soo lazy people had a melt down by someone been hiker and runner. My husband run the marathon two times. He went out always night, early morning hours before work.

    • @Goddess4moon
      @Goddess4moon 19 днів тому +2

      Andrea has made this argument that the mentioning of the stargazing and whatnot is to establish a pattern of behavior and that [BK being out at night] isn't out of the ordinary. she has previously addressed it another places too.
      If you don't follow her, I highly recommend it.

    • @denisekoenig9479
      @denisekoenig9479 19 днів тому

      Ty

    • @TheDagumTruth
      @TheDagumTruth 19 днів тому

      Agreed. Reading is helpful.

    • @Drunkpilotflying
      @Drunkpilotflying 18 днів тому +2

      Keep defending a serial killer.....

  • @michaelfitzpatrick3020
    @michaelfitzpatrick3020 17 днів тому +3

    I’ve always had my doubts with this case in terms of the DNA evidence and other factors. I’m gonna pause any judgement on this one until it’s gone all the way through……

  • @shannonography
    @shannonography 20 днів тому +37

    Imagine in America we are talking about the strength of an alibi instead of the strength of a bunch of circumstantial evidence. People act offended that they want a fair trial.

    • @roriemarie2968
      @roriemarie2968 20 днів тому +14

      In America, you don't need an alibut. What you need is your DNA not showing up on a sheath that's next to a dead body.That's next to other dead bodies.That's kind of what you need....

    • @shannonography
      @shannonography 20 днів тому +13

      @@roriemarie2968 I knew there would be someone...

    • @carolmyer4861
      @carolmyer4861 20 днів тому +12

      @@roriemarie2968what about the other male dna? It wasn’t listed as touch dna from the other dnas? Whose was it? Why the secrets?

    • @williamtardy8137
      @williamtardy8137 19 днів тому +7

      ​@roriemarie2968 that's really irrelevant. Look at the Lukis Anderson case.

    • @phillipmartinez9232
      @phillipmartinez9232 19 днів тому +4

      It don't matter what anyone on internet thinks 1 way or the other. He is going to have a fair trial. Hence why its takin so long

  • @paleandbeyond
    @paleandbeyond 15 днів тому +2

    Thank you for having Andrea on your show. She is my 'go to' for clear, intelligent and level-headed explanation based on fact.

  • @Ejw2220
    @Ejw2220 20 днів тому +23

    Andrea you are my hero. You are unaffected by outside influences and powers. You speak out for objectivity and truth. Thank you soooooo much. You give me hope in humanity

    • @stephanea5364
      @stephanea5364 19 днів тому

      Did Kohberger convince you to marry him yet?

  • @koolquality
    @koolquality 20 днів тому +43

    Maybe they should take a poll on the number of college students, (especially Masters and Doctoral student) who drive around at night to clear their minds. I drove down to the lake multiples times in college, because when your brain is full and you can't sleep, sitting in your car looking at the sky is very therapeutic.

    • @nellym.6555
      @nellym.6555 20 днів тому +11

      When I was at university I would drive for several hours and sit by the sea until 4:00am. And I assure you that many people who are in college and suffer from insomnia do the same thing.

    • @SarahShaw-zc4ww
      @SarahShaw-zc4ww 20 днів тому +21

      And does your DNA end up at a murder scene?

    • @nellym.6555
      @nellym.6555 20 днів тому +12

      @@SarahShaw-zc4ww Maybe, just like yours, which should be found in all the places you visited today.

    • @avjam
      @avjam 20 днів тому +10

      I couldnt agree more. Some people make sarcastic comments on the whole stargazing thing like it's a super weird and abnormal out of the blue thing to do. These people need to get over themselves with their arrogance

    • @avjam
      @avjam 20 днів тому

      ​@@SarahShaw-zc4wwthe prosecution has dropped the IGG information evidence because the dna profile is too flaky. I think it will affect the dna evidence. Plus it's touch DNA which it totally unreliable.

  • @heatherlavigne3220
    @heatherlavigne3220 18 днів тому +4

    This guest presenter was so much more helpful than most of the guest speakers! Bring her back!

  • @Imaginethis304
    @Imaginethis304 20 днів тому +209

    I imagine Jupiter and Saturn will soon take the stand to testify in his defense.

  • @antonchigurh7227
    @antonchigurh7227 19 днів тому +4

    Stargazing looking up at the sky in the backyard of the house on Kings Road prior to breaking in (about the size of it)

  • @Newchannel9o6
    @Newchannel9o6 20 днів тому +22

    I pray that the victims get justice.

  • @s.b.605
    @s.b.605 19 днів тому +6

    Innocent man doesn't need this long to give his alibi

    • @robertldavisjr
      @robertldavisjr 14 днів тому

      Precisely. He’s guilty af

    • @G2thesecondpower
      @G2thesecondpower 13 днів тому +2

      That is an ignorant statement. An alibi needs to be proven. Furthermore, if you're facing a prosecution that believes that thinks you're guilty, you don't just show all your cards right away. That gives them a chance to poke holes in everything.
      Not only that, The alibi of driving around has been out for about 8 months now. What we got recently was the full alibi with details, backed up by an expert witness. This takes time.

    • @tamiross5234
      @tamiross5234 13 днів тому

      Read up on Colorado judges views of your EXPERT witness.

    • @MrKolton15
      @MrKolton15 5 днів тому

      Because it takes a long time for this man, to put GPS coordinates from his phone. Especially when the prosecution wouldn’t turn over the phone and the data from it.

  • @emmulligan9407
    @emmulligan9407 16 днів тому +2

    Great breakdown. Clear and concise. Thx. I love how you connect the dots between Cy’s work and the earlier Giglio Brady and exculpatory evidence. Your experience is impressive.❤😊

  • @ugarte06
    @ugarte06 19 днів тому +6

    Who tf is this calm after being accused of murdering 4 people! Guilty af

  • @catherinekeller7938
    @catherinekeller7938 20 днів тому +78

    Everyone needs to listen again to what Bill Thompson said at the recent hearing. He said BCK was not stalking on 'social media."

    • @Tammy_26Irwin
      @Tammy_26Irwin 20 днів тому +16

      I believe what Bill Thompson was getting to was that in the probable cause affidavit it wasn’t stated that he was stalking them on social media. The stalking claim came from Kaylee’s ‘s family not the prosecution.

    • @Soulwarrior7
      @Soulwarrior7 20 днів тому +29

      No proof of stalking anyone, anywhere, ever.

    • @nellym.6555
      @nellym.6555 20 днів тому

      No proof of stalking, the Goncalves lied to the media by showing an unauthenticated account in BK's name

    • @Tammy_26Irwin
      @Tammy_26Irwin 20 днів тому +32

      @@Soulwarrior7 you know that for a fact? I believe that none of us know exactly what the government has due to a gag order.

    • @2112acj
      @2112acj 20 днів тому +5

      except that other woman he did something with cameras.

  • @xtubejr
    @xtubejr 18 днів тому +3

    You guys should have Bruce Rivers as a guest one day.

  • @shellya.2862
    @shellya.2862 20 днів тому +87

    Why did he have to get all the prosecution evidence to formulate an alibi? why didn’t he give his alibi immediately so they could clear him as a suspect? I certainly would have if I was innocent. Also the defenses alibi “expert” has been under scrutiny in Colorado by a judge!

    • @gremsa
      @gremsa 20 днів тому +7

      Exactly

    • @starsourcer
      @starsourcer 20 днів тому +39

      Why didn't the prosecution hand over the discovery that has been asked for 15 times?

    • @Knowfere
      @Knowfere 20 днів тому +8

      Right!! Where is this concrete exculpatory evidence submitted alongside a motion to dismiss all charges and release this innocent person???!!!

    • @georgeiuliu1069
      @georgeiuliu1069 20 днів тому +8

      That exculpatory evidence doesn't exist that's why

    • @Soulwarrior7
      @Soulwarrior7 20 днів тому +27

      Phone tells where he was, prosecution had his phone. He said he was out driving alone, that’s still his alibi, not sure what you are stating there. Most of Moscow PD IS under investigation and has horrible track records. Seek and you shall find.

  • @sinead187
    @sinead187 20 днів тому +99

    You've got to be kidding me.. Stargazing.. Lol

    • @nellym.6555
      @nellym.6555 20 днів тому +18

      Well, why not believe that BK was not in Moscow on the day of the murders? If the PCA places BK in Moscow Idaho, and then they say that BK was not in Moscow that day. It's not about stargazing. It's about BK not being in Moscow.

    • @user-xj4yt8bp8z
      @user-xj4yt8bp8z 20 днів тому +10

      ​@@nellym.6555but the DNA on the knife scabbard says he was in Moscow that day

    • @gremsa
      @gremsa 20 днів тому +4

      @@nellym.6555at least the knivesheet of his knive was in moscow

    • @bullitt7544
      @bullitt7544 20 днів тому +6

      It is pathetic, & sickening.

    • @user-xj4yt8bp8z
      @user-xj4yt8bp8z 20 днів тому +2

      @@gremsa with his DNA all over it

  • @erictrott6553
    @erictrott6553 20 днів тому +21

    No one said BK was "stargazing." The media saying that just proves that the Defense needed that survey, because the media has tainted this trial with misinformation. In fact, it doesn't state where he went or what he was doing. It only says he went West, not East. That's it.

    • @ericpalmer3588
      @ericpalmer3588 20 днів тому +2

      So what? He went that direction before turning off his phone to throw off what he was doing. It shows premeditation.

    • @reallifelebowski4732
      @reallifelebowski4732 19 днів тому +1

      @@ericpalmer3588 Guy's like that DORK always take off and never reply back. Story of his life

    • @erictrott6553
      @erictrott6553 19 днів тому +4

      @@ericpalmer3588 No one ever said he turned off his phone. Again, proving my point about the media spreading misinformation. The arrest affidavit only states that his phone wasn't connecting to any towers. One of the possibilities for that is him turning his phone off. But it's also possible that he was in one of the many "dead zones" known to exist in the area.

    • @mgm153
      @mgm153 19 днів тому

      @@ericpalmer3588 Or he was not even in the same area. If his phone wasn't turned off, when he came back into town, it would have pinged.

    • @ericpalmer3588
      @ericpalmer3588 19 днів тому

      @@erictrott6553 there aren’t dead zones known to exist in the area, you made that up.

  • @duchessmartinez2035
    @duchessmartinez2035 17 днів тому +3

    Stargazing on a cloudy night........ don't forget the details.

  • @Jasmine_0506
    @Jasmine_0506 20 днів тому +7

    This guy is toast. The alibi is just BS

  • @davidtiessen7713
    @davidtiessen7713 19 днів тому +7

    Wow best guest expert ever. Objective, well versed, pulls out of the hat Maxwell! Super impressive.

  • @acoe2012ac
    @acoe2012ac 17 днів тому +4

    In Idaho, “stalking” means that the victims were aware of the stalking. That’s why I think the prosecution won’t argue stalking. But suggest he had those intentions

    • @desert_moon
      @desert_moon 16 днів тому +1

      He may not have been stalking according to their definition but he was definitely doing surveilling of some sort.

    • @acoe2012ac
      @acoe2012ac 16 днів тому

      @@desert_moon exactly!

    • @paleandbeyond
      @paleandbeyond 15 днів тому +1

      They won't argue stalking because there is zero proof he was stalking and the defence has clearly stated there is zero connection to the victims.

    • @acoe2012ac
      @acoe2012ac 15 днів тому

      @@paleandbeyond the legal definition of stalking doesn’t apply here. But remember in the beginning when they said they would specify if it was the victims or the house which was the target… there doesn’t need to be a connection to the victims

  • @starsourcer
    @starsourcer 20 днів тому +45

    Stargazing is unbelievable but frozen shock phase isn’t?

    • @pumpkinfield100
      @pumpkinfield100 20 днів тому +17

      Frozen shock for 8-10 hours. Totally believable

    • @bananayummyable
      @bananayummyable 19 днів тому +5

      I work as a paramedic and frozen shock is a real thing. Volunteer in an ambulance you’ll see cases real quick

    • @JustaGirlinCleveland
      @JustaGirlinCleveland 19 днів тому +1

      @@pumpkinfield100 It never said for 8-10 hours. Reading comprehension is key. The PCA said...
      " The male walked past D.M. as she stood in a "frozen shock phase. The male walked towards the back sliding glass door. D.M. locked herself in her room after seeing the male. " AS HE WALKED BY, not all night.

    • @GardeningGems
      @GardeningGems 19 днів тому +6

      @@JustaGirlinClevelandThe cops were not called until noon. By then plenty of their frat/sorority friends were at the scene. DM seen the intruder at 4 am and even tried calling M & K after with no success. Even SG said people were cleared too early. BK is being railroaded.

    • @pumpkinfield100
      @pumpkinfield100 19 днів тому +1

      @@JustaGirlinCleveland Than why not calling 911 for 8 hours

  • @vanessa1569
    @vanessa1569 19 днів тому

    This was great, thank you ✌

  • @marcopolo-xj4yw
    @marcopolo-xj4yw 20 днів тому +7

    Their best defense is to portray him as an insomniac, nervous wreck, ex drug addict. Recently lost his job. Regularly was awake and exploring during the nights.

    • @denisekoenig9479
      @denisekoenig9479 19 днів тому +2

      U said it EX drug addict, EX! Him being up all nite had nothing to do with drugs. Insomniac yes it had all to do with him being up. His neighbor even testified to hearing him vacuum late nites. Being an insomniac he would go driving at night to help himself be able to go home and sleep. We don't have proof that he lost his job. Msm said it but they lie all of the time. If he did it was probably really because of him being accused of murder

    • @annmarie164-tea
      @annmarie164-tea 18 днів тому

      .....and you're a nut !!!

    • @annmarie164-tea
      @annmarie164-tea 18 днів тому

      ​@@denisekoenig9479Absolutely, I do remember a neighbor saying it. I think he suffers from visual snow too, but not sure.

  • @kathywhitaker1042
    @kathywhitaker1042 20 днів тому +70

    Thought he was just driving ...now star gazing.....

    • @ettajfan5882
      @ettajfan5882 20 днів тому +12

      From what I've heard, it was a cloudy night.

    • @nellym.6555
      @nellym.6555 20 днів тому +29

      ​@@ettajfan5882It's not about stargazing, it's about BK not being in Moscow.

    • @Soulwarrior7
      @Soulwarrior7 20 днів тому +8

      It’s about smoking green leafy substance in n a state that it’s legal!

    • @kathywhitaker1042
      @kathywhitaker1042 20 днів тому +5

      @@Soulwarrior7 don't think murder is legal anywhere

    • @Soulwarrior7
      @Soulwarrior7 20 днів тому +2

      @@kathywhitaker1042 you’d be correct in the US

  • @Happydayz2023
    @Happydayz2023 20 днів тому +14

    Andrea you rock as always ! 🎉

  • @nataliebrooke9583
    @nataliebrooke9583 18 днів тому +1

    Great interview.

  • @DETECTEAGUE
    @DETECTEAGUE 20 днів тому +27

    The night he claims to be stargazing the national weather service says the weather in that location was overcast and freezing fog. The park he claimed to be at is also closed on the weekends as well as closes at dusk in the weekdays, but the individual in question also suffers from visual snow, something that would make it for hard for the individual in question to do. Utter B.S

    • @r.g6170
      @r.g6170 20 днів тому +2

      so a person with visual snow murdered 4 people in the early morning hours?

    • @Sweetyhide
      @Sweetyhide 20 днів тому +8

      His alibi doesn't say he was stargazing.

    • @Kevinmiller835
      @Kevinmiller835 19 днів тому

      It has litterally never been confirmed be suffers from visual snow lol.

    • @DETECTEAGUE
      @DETECTEAGUE 19 днів тому

      @@Kevinmiller835 are you ok? type in tapatalk and bryan kohberger and enjoy reading the ten years he spoke about the medications he was on for V.S, on a website, specifically for people with V.S. christ alive.

  • @SometimesPerplexed
    @SometimesPerplexed 20 днів тому +52

    I’d think it’s slightly weaker than claiming he was playing poker on a smooth tree stump with a talking bear named Hugo who sadly passed away before he could give a statement, but I guess he could change my mind by bringing the evidence.

    • @onomatopie1
      @onomatopie1 20 днів тому

      that seems much more plausible....let's wait for Hugo's testimony

    • @jolookin
      @jolookin 20 днів тому

      😂😂 Hugo , where you at?

    • @punapeter
      @punapeter 20 днів тому +2

      video game education eh?

    • @PinkyLaRue
      @PinkyLaRue 20 днів тому

      Haha My Dogs name is Hugo....😅😅😅

    • @carolmyer4861
      @carolmyer4861 20 днів тому +5

      It’s a better alibi that “I was sleeping by myself”, whenever the guy could walk across the street in half a minute and has more of a motive

  • @marlbboro8091
    @marlbboro8091 20 днів тому +5

    Enjoyed listen to Andrea. I like to hear a defense POV.

  • @ReginaAnnRod
    @ReginaAnnRod 17 днів тому +2

    I love Andrea! I found her through the Depp v Heard trial. She’s just amazing!

  • @thatoneperson8514
    @thatoneperson8514 20 днів тому +19

    Thank you for this intelligent unbiased discussion.

  • @Itsjcold0
    @Itsjcold0 20 днів тому +8

    Why bring your phone tomurder someone

  • @serenadevon
    @serenadevon 20 днів тому +47

    Phone goes off.... DNA shows up on knife sheath...then phone turns back on🤔🤪

    • @nellym.6555
      @nellym.6555 20 днів тому +21

      Well, I assure you that your DNA is found in all the places you visited today, and if a murder occurs in any of those places you were today, you could be guilty even without having committed the crime.

    • @deathguise1992
      @deathguise1992 20 днів тому +22

      @@nellym.6555his DNA shows up on the sheath for the knife that was used in the crime at the crime scene. And his phone was off during the time of the killings. The odds of anyone else having committed this crime is astronomical.

    • @thatisabsolutelykooooge2211
      @thatisabsolutelykooooge2211 20 днів тому +5

      @@deathguise1992wrong. Absolutely wrong.

    • @MakerInMotion
      @MakerInMotion 20 днів тому +10

      If the prosecution thought they had a slam dunk case, they wouldn't have been trying to cheat all this time. Makes me wonder what they're so worried about.

    • @dougcorcoran5455
      @dougcorcoran5455 20 днів тому +9

      ​@@deathguise1992lots of people had DNA at the crime scene, we don't know where it was found. Including unidentified males DNA. Police haven't claimed the phone was shut off, only it stopped reporting to cellular resources. It's not as clear cut as you think.

  • @daddoo5268
    @daddoo5268 17 днів тому +1

    I think her insights are some of the smartest I've heard on this subject. I certainly wasn't expecting her to bring up Maxwell. You could also add that runners tend to be a bit nuts. Running at night in inclement weather is certainly not an impossibility. As a local to that area I would also add that there tend to be some interesting weather zones around here. You cannot look at what is happening in Moscow and say that is what is happening even 5 miles away. The cell towers in the area are set up to cover the highways. Departure from those is definitely going to result in lost cell coverage.

  • @denisekoenig9479
    @denisekoenig9479 19 днів тому +2

    I never heard that they saw him get in or out of his vehicle ever

  • @SoloSailing77
    @SoloSailing77 20 днів тому +30

    Does anyone know why you can't remove your cell phone battery? So that the GPS is able to continue to track and store your location while it is turned off. The amount of data your phone tracks and keeps about you is scary. They have all that info. Never hear about it, because they don't want us to know. Shutting it off makes you look guilty!

    • @alexpriedite1447
      @alexpriedite1447 20 днів тому +5

      Bingo. Removing the battery is the only way to really go off grid.

    • @polkadotsuzanne9306
      @polkadotsuzanne9306 20 днів тому +5

      Newer cell phones don't have removable batteries.

    • @SoloSailing77
      @SoloSailing77 20 днів тому

      @@polkadotsuzanne9306 And the attacks on 9/11 are the reason!

    • @Stuarttttt
      @Stuarttttt 19 днів тому +2

      @@alexpriedite1447yeah what phone this day even has a removable battery? Surely none made in the last decade almost.

    • @helloneighbor11
      @helloneighbor11 19 днів тому +2

      The phones track amazing amounts of information. When screen lights up, unlock times, keys pressed. The list goes on

  • @XShadowAngel
    @XShadowAngel 20 днів тому +137

    Everyone should note that she's a defense attorney. Literally her entire job is making up excuses for any and every possible bit of evidence to try to dismiss it as unimportant. You could have Kohberger on video walking into the house and walking out covered in blood and getting in his car, and this same exact woman would be on here going "Well, it's important to note that we don't actually see him kill everyone, he could have gone into the house, slipped into their blood, and then walked back out so clearly since we don't know we need to exclude this as important evidence."
    As a defense attorney, she will NEVER say "Yeah, this evidence is bad and makes him look guilty". Because that goes against her entire job and source of income.

    • @iansane1928
      @iansane1928 20 днів тому +15

      This is the exact same thought I have literally every time she speaks. Couldn't agree more.

    • @Mindy-jz7rc
      @Mindy-jz7rc 20 днів тому +1

      All evidence confirms BK is innocent. No motive, No connection, No Victims DNA, No murder weapon. Hope he sues when he's freed next year

    • @dawn5035
      @dawn5035 20 днів тому +13

      Andrea is getting on my nerves with this case. I get it, she WANTS to show her defensive skills but I mean c'mon, you cannot explain everything away. Used to like her but she is really something in this case that has really turned me that I shut her off.

    • @Gizziiusa
      @Gizziiusa 20 днів тому +24

      Seriously, are you on here trying to explain what a defense attorneys job is supposed to be ?
      "Everyone should note..." bla, bla, bla.
      jeez, where do ppl like you come from ?

    • @Soulwarrior7
      @Soulwarrior7 20 днів тому +13

      Alibi is an alibi, still don’t even know where Ethan and Xana were for a few hours still…

  • @caliwm9860
    @caliwm9860 18 днів тому +2

    Is there a legal definition difference between stalking or surveillance?

  • @joanlundbrandt6137
    @joanlundbrandt6137 19 днів тому +25

    Excellent guest! So much respect for Andrea!!

  • @marcopolo-xj4yw
    @marcopolo-xj4yw 20 днів тому +53

    The only other question is- WHO ELSE DID IT?! No one is the answer.

    • @serenadevon
      @serenadevon 20 днів тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @dudenoway5448
      @dudenoway5448 20 днів тому +16

      Yes as they always say, guilty until you prove your innocence by solving the case for the government

    • @craigmills6275
      @craigmills6275 20 днів тому +3

      I believe that kopeka guy was involved as well

    • @liam5382
      @liam5382 20 днів тому +3

      OJ

    • @bernadette573
      @bernadette573 19 днів тому +12

      frat boys? the vet who killed himself the next day? drug cartel peeps? relatives of LE? relative of protected persons? whoever drove the truck (fish & wildlife?) seen near there?

  • @Grunger999
    @Grunger999 19 днів тому +3

    "I'm earning $200 per hour on this case, so we'll need to delay as long as possible."

  • @link01uk
    @link01uk 19 днів тому +2

    This was so much better than average, a real treat to have unbiased, intelligent analysis.
    It'd be amazing to have a video dedicated to this cell-tower analysis stuff; it's always coming up in trials but are we being bamboozled as with DNA data?

  • @isashisha
    @isashisha 18 днів тому +2

    Noooonoonooo he said phone was OFF because it was 'low on battery' and he didnt want it to die so he turned it off. Now all of this is changing??? SUS AF!

  • @katemiller3796
    @katemiller3796 19 днів тому +3

    Wait don’t iPhones record movement or activity on the phone? I remember in the Murdoch trial there was evidence the phone was in use at certain times

    • @Dani-sw5ne
      @Dani-sw5ne 19 днів тому +2

      Yes and that’s why the alibi and phone meta data will prove his innocence.

  • @margaretmary1139
    @margaretmary1139 20 днів тому +12

    What about hIs DNA at the crime scene?

    • @Mindy-jz7rc
      @Mindy-jz7rc 20 днів тому +14

      Touch DNA means nothing. You are wearing strangers touch DNA at this very moment

    • @nellym.6555
      @nellym.6555 20 днів тому +12

      "Touch DNA" testing also may be causing false convictions

    • @carolmyer4861
      @carolmyer4861 20 днів тому +4

      What don’t you understand about touch dna? It’s been explained a thousand times. Someone could have touch his car door handle and the pca says the sheath was “placed” there as his dna probably was. What about the other male dna found at the scene? They didn’t say that was touch dna

    • @amandadassonville4043
      @amandadassonville4043 18 днів тому

      Give it a rest. If you don't know /understand that now you'll never understand transfer DNA. There is a huge difference. 🐝

    • @gigglepopcorn805
      @gigglepopcorn805 18 днів тому

      Okay when has that actually happen it says 98.9 %

  • @sassafrass241
    @sassafrass241 17 днів тому +1

    Andrea has her own channel! She did an amazing job in the Depp v Heard case!

  • @EM-kn3bz
    @EM-kn3bz 19 днів тому +2

    I’ve been saying from the start it wasn’t him. It was a police officer who committed this crime.

    • @voges1001
      @voges1001 19 днів тому

      Case closed. Thanks.

    • @jworme155
      @jworme155 18 днів тому

      Why you think this?

  • @docjaysw
    @docjaysw 20 днів тому +11

    You have to turn your cell off if it continues searching for a tower the battery goes dead and then you cant use it when you get back to where there is cell service. why dont people know this!

    • @XShadowAngel
      @XShadowAngel 20 днів тому +6

      Because there are over a dozen cellphone towers in that area and ZERO listed deadzones.

    • @denisekoenig9479
      @denisekoenig9479 19 днів тому

      ​@@XShadowAngelnot true

    • @paleandbeyond
      @paleandbeyond 15 днів тому

      @@XShadowAngel Absolutely not true and someone has driven the route to the park showing how bad cell coverage is

    • @XShadowAngel
      @XShadowAngel 15 днів тому

      @@paleandbeyond "Someone"? Someone who?

    • @rebajeanforever3700
      @rebajeanforever3700 11 днів тому +1

      It also depends on your cellphone service, plus my son and I have the same cellphone service, but out by my folks where theres a group of trees and inside my folks houses my phone still get service's but my son phone will not get service. We also have different cellphone.

  • @cherylk3536
    @cherylk3536 20 днів тому +43

    Has anyone noticed how his eyebrows are now trimmed when the eye witness stated at the time of the murders the person seen had bushy eyebrows. Look at the picture when he was arrested and to today’s photo

    • @TheBmco99
      @TheBmco99 20 днів тому +8

      I’m 100% convinced this man is the Grim Reaper that did it guilty

    • @nellym.6555
      @nellym.6555 20 днів тому +13

      He has never had bushy eyebrows

    • @cindycaria6430
      @cindycaria6430 20 днів тому +5

      They are trimming,band plucking. Maybe waxing

    • @RobertP-kk5ou
      @RobertP-kk5ou 20 днів тому +6

      ​@@nellym.6555That really is subjective .

    • @Flonick21
      @Flonick21 20 днів тому +10

      Not only are they bushy but his prtruding forehead causes shadows on his eyes which makes the eyebrows appear even bushier, it's the main feature that totally stands out on his face. That why DM said that, bc even in dim light it would be noticeable!

  • @neuropsychologist
    @neuropsychologist 18 днів тому +2

    Fascinating. However, typically when a scientist discovers a valid method of scientific discovery they draw up a research report (peer reviewed), so that the methods used are transparent, tested for validity and replication is possible. I can’t find any research paper for Sy Ray.

  • @diamondhall3615
    @diamondhall3615 17 днів тому +1

    This whole case is just spooky. Like how do 4 full human bodies get torn apart with a knife by himself and had time to get away AND return to the crime scene BEFORE the cops were even called. LAWD please give me the strength he got

  • @loadedhot1034
    @loadedhot1034 19 днів тому +3

    I don't think someone that self admittedly "doesn't believe in science" is a very credible expert.

  • @stevensmith7538
    @stevensmith7538 20 днів тому +7

    He’s 1000% guilty, set the trial.

  • @purple-nq3zd
    @purple-nq3zd 19 днів тому +1

    Hi Andrea great to see you here. One very articulate intelligent lawyer ❤

    • @berk6506
      @berk6506 19 днів тому +1

      Very articulate biased lawyer.

  • @lillyshaw9439
    @lillyshaw9439 18 днів тому +1

    I run late at night. Night owl here. Great to have an unbiased opinion. Love Andrea

  • @TheBmco99
    @TheBmco99 20 днів тому +34

    The Grim reaper out howling at the moon

    • @jimmyzhao2673
      @jimmyzhao2673 18 днів тому +1

      Omigosh ! I've heard of the 'Twinkie defense', now we have the 'Werewolf defense'

  • @user-zh8zq4ew2v
    @user-zh8zq4ew2v 20 днів тому +17

    With all due respect, I feel like some people need to go back and read his alibi again. It didn’t say that he was star gazing, hiking or running that night. They didn’t say that he had any pictures that night.

    • @gothgammy666
      @gothgammy666 20 днів тому +8

      It doesn’t say anything so how exactly is it an alibi

    • @Flonick21
      @Flonick21 20 днів тому +3

      And it says his PHONE was not in Moscow...it deliberately &carefully never says HE wasn't in Miscow? Hmmmmm...
      Imagine that!

    • @JohannaTx-
      @JohannaTx- 20 днів тому +8

      He has an alibi. Otherwise they would have said nothing. This is very interesting because police changed original timeline to fit narrative wanted. And it has been falling apart on court documents and hearings.

    • @ericpalmer3588
      @ericpalmer3588 20 днів тому +2

      @@JohannaTx-they had to submit an alibi by the deadline. This is all he could come up with, and no it does not get him off the hook in any way.

    • @JohannaTx-
      @JohannaTx- 20 днів тому +5

      ​@@ericpalmer3588When you are arrested all your devices are gone. It is called discovery what your attorney needs. He still owns his items properties, that is why state needs search warrants in a first place. If they will not give it, it is violation. I say, shady prosecutor!

  • @janetkelly9848
    @janetkelly9848 16 днів тому +1

    They need to get his phone records from the days he has these photos from his "drives" and prove that his phone will surely ping the towers in these locations.

  • @user-gc6fq5uv9b
    @user-gc6fq5uv9b 20 днів тому +4

    😢 rest in peace 😢 victims

  • @JamieVileOfficial
    @JamieVileOfficial 20 днів тому +29

    The sky’s were cloudy, even some would say it was foggy, that night, in his location, where he was star gazing.
    Edit:word

    • @kirkcinnamon8467
      @kirkcinnamon8467 20 днів тому +3

      Pertinent!

    • @Ok-cb5lw
      @Ok-cb5lw 20 днів тому +1

      Right. I wonder how the moon was too, if it’s half+ then that’s not ideal for star gazing.

    • @chrissyscholl816
      @chrissyscholl816 20 днів тому +4

      So you were there? 😂 and you remember what the sky looked like that specific night?

    • @resurrexionco7307
      @resurrexionco7307 20 днів тому +7

      @@chrissyscholl816 There are such things as weather reports.

    • @smithshannon2588
      @smithshannon2588 20 днів тому +3

      @@resurrexionco7307 weather reports aren’t accurate it’s a general guess clouds move and shift it may have been cloudy and cleared and got cloudy again

  • @TheReddHead91
    @TheReddHead91 20 днів тому +13

    If it was cloudy the night of the murders, where he claimed to be, how would he STILL be driving around for hours? Why wait until the clouds cleared?

    • @williamtardy8137
      @williamtardy8137 19 днів тому +2

      But you don't know that it was cloudy the whole night. I have a weather app that says it's going to rain and it doesn't rain.

    • @TheReddHead91
      @TheReddHead91 19 днів тому

      @williamtardy8137 daily observations from the night in question are recorded cloudy from 133am- 953am Nov 13th 2022, according to Weather Underground. Temperature between 28- 30*F
      There is a record of it. Now, that is in Moscow. Maybe he claims to be elsewhere but I have doubts

    • @AllAboutAngee
      @AllAboutAngee 19 днів тому

      The weather apps around that time predicted meteor showers

  • @metablet8273
    @metablet8273 19 днів тому +2

    So all these areas that he says he’s been driving around in that night that’s where they should go look for the murder weapon🤔

  • @katelynr7836
    @katelynr7836 20 днів тому +2

    The prosecution will easily be able to explain how they got the cars range years and when they knew it had changed. Put the detective on the stand that did those precise measurements from grainy videos and explain why they didn’t get it exactly right.

  • @Buckifan127
    @Buckifan127 18 днів тому +5

    It’s so weird, Webster just changed the definition of “stargazing” in its dictionary to brutally murdering 4 college students in the middle of the night…

  • @yadiraesparza5983
    @yadiraesparza5983 19 днів тому +9

    Love her on these! All facts and professional povs. Not biased like everyone else that’s invited on the show.

  • @nadias.426
    @nadias.426 19 днів тому +2

    what i don’t understand though is, let’s say the alibi is true and he didn’t do it, doesn’t that mean there’s a murderer on the loose and we’re all just wasting time here??

    • @joedennehy386
      @joedennehy386 9 днів тому

      His dna at the crime scene is irrefutable

  • @canisamator7937
    @canisamator7937 16 днів тому +2

    I started watching Sy Ray's UA-cam channel- Socialite Crime Club- about a week ago after hearing about him on another UA-cam channel, curious about his background & credibility. He & Keri are an awesome duo, both former cops. He is totally credible, no doubt in MY mind. Everyone here saying BK IS guilty- that's not how it works here in the USA! A JURY makes that decision (beyond a reasonable doubt) after hearing both sides. Every one of us who has been following this case should want the RIGHT person to be convicted- ESPECIALLY the victim's families. I'm disappointed that SG would double down before he's even heard the info from the expert witness.

  • @user-io9bc8rr3d
    @user-io9bc8rr3d 20 днів тому +12

    Not gonna lie. I wouldn’t convict. At best, circumstantial. It’s a death penalty case and/or life imprisonment w/o parole.
    Touch DNA for the sheath but none found elsewhere (2 other male DNA samples also found on said sheath)
    Model of the car mismatch (pretty big differences between the 2011-2013 and 2014-2016 Elantra assuming prosecution were doing their job)
    Location data

    • @loadedhot1034
      @loadedhot1034 19 днів тому +1

      Explain only his DNA on a knife sheath under a victims body.

    • @enlight2260
      @enlight2260 18 днів тому

      @@loadedhot1034 planted 😉

    • @user-io9bc8rr3d
      @user-io9bc8rr3d 17 днів тому +1

      @@loadedhot1034 wrong. 2 others were found iirc.

    • @just-a-generic-username
      @just-a-generic-username 10 днів тому

      @@loadedhot1034 Explain how the victim's DNA wasn't on the sheath but one bit of touch DNA from the killer was.

  • @kris-english
    @kris-english 20 днів тому +4

    If the sheath doesn't fit, you must acquit...

    • @charleswhite758
      @charleswhite758 16 днів тому

      No, you must also follow common sense, that's an essential part of the work of the jury.

  • @jessylynn5846
    @jessylynn5846 19 днів тому +2

    The car changed after his arrest

  • @Free420Love
    @Free420Love 20 днів тому +1

    Listening to him repeatedly massacre the pronunciation of Wawawai Park is killing me.😂😂

  • @davidro9883
    @davidro9883 20 днів тому +4

    It was overcast the day in question so he certainly was not stargazing!

  • @sanjayvarma7842
    @sanjayvarma7842 20 днів тому +6

    Awesome guest! Great show!

    • @PHlophe
      @PHlophe 19 днів тому

      Sanj, she will be upgraded to regular. she is being received well.

  • @amireallythatgrumpy6508
    @amireallythatgrumpy6508 18 днів тому

    Got to say - I'm really impressed by a lawyer showing an awareness of James Maxwell's work!

  • @HerbieCassidy
    @HerbieCassidy 18 днів тому +1

    this is the second case I'm seeing this week where phone records will matter when, can't wait to see what is real

  • @The.ARCHIT3CT
    @The.ARCHIT3CT 20 днів тому +10

    Finally! A voice of reason. Hi Andrea!!

    • @killereverb3928
      @killereverb3928 20 днів тому +1

      Yay!! Another BK sycophant. How funny. Like little cheerleaders for the defense. Ted Bundy had groupies like you too.

  • @alexpriedite1447
    @alexpriedite1447 20 днів тому +10

    I pray they get justice.

  • @jesperpedersen3430
    @jesperpedersen3430 19 днів тому +1

    Breaking news: Kohberger just released his new alibi “Just trust me, Bro” 😂

  • @guisellec-d
    @guisellec-d 16 днів тому +2

    @Andrea Burkhart is one sharp lawyer!

  • @chcgostyle
    @chcgostyle 20 днів тому +9

    While many in here have formed their opinions, let's remember that Kohberger is currently on trial in "the court of public opinion". We remember this with the George Floyd case. That cop did not kill him, and yet he was convicted. My point is..... what if he truly is innocent? The fact that the police have probably put "all their eggs in one basket", if it turns out he is innocent, the real murderer now has a slim to no chance of ever getting caught. The families of the dead will be the most devestated. Let's just keep an open mind. You would not want the public to convict you of something you didn't do, so let's give him the same respect.

    • @marlbboro8091
      @marlbboro8091 20 днів тому +2

      Well said. And this is a death penalty case.
      It will be appealed immediately
      Prosecution has to be particularly tight.
      🤞🏼

    • @kerynrabe8110
      @kerynrabe8110 17 днів тому +1

      I agree. He deserves a fair trial. This case & the Delphi case has the most polarized opinions in the comments

  • @jessicaRabbitt3316
    @jessicaRabbitt3316 20 днів тому +8

    If I was innocent and had an alibi I immediately would of gave it and argued and argued that I wasn't there at the time of the killings. Idk pretty sus to me but I guess we will see how it goes. I pray that the victims gets justice

  • @janetsaint6971
    @janetsaint6971 18 днів тому

    Andrea Burkhart is AMAZING at explaining what's actually going on! Smartest person I've heard speak on this case and I've been following since the very beginning. Thank you Andrea for coming on the platform and preaching REASON.