‘Doomsday Cult’ Prophet: More Disturbing Evidence from Triple Murder Trial
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- Опубліковано 10 тра 2024
- Chad Daybell, a man who said he could discern whether people’s spirits were “light or dark,” is accused of killing his first wife, as well as his second wife’s children. The bodies of Tylee Ryan, 16, and JJ Vallow, 7, were found on Daybell’s property in Idaho. Daybell’s new wife, Lori Vallow, was convicted in connection with the murders last year. Law&Crime’s Jesse Weber analyzes the latest disturbing evidence and testimony presented at trial.
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What a combination of toxicity between 2 people.
Well said
@@laurataylor8179
Agreed!! 💙🇺🇲💙🇺🇲💙
It amazes me that anyone would follow Lori and Chad. They were not intelligent people at all.
Plus, Chad has absolutely NO charisma at all; he's just an unimaginative dork who talks in a monotone and carries himself with all the dignity of a slug!
Neither is Julie Rowe, who came up with the idea of earthquakes in Utah, but she’s been wrong about Chad not being guilty, and the children being safe and warm.
People olny tend to value intelligence when it fits with their biases.
The people that followed Lori and Chad were also not intelligent people at all.
I am amazed at how common it is to follow religion over all in the US. It gives some people great power over others, and in addition it makes it easier for evil to unfold right in front of you. It will be like this when it is normal for adults to believe in fairy tales and often create their own version of it
Chad was a freeloading husband who didn’t deserve Tammy. He freeloaded after her death when he cashed in her life insurance policy. He also freeloaded off of Lori who was collecting the social security benefits of the children they murdered & disposed of in his backyard.
Are you angry becausee he's appropriating fem cultural. Because y'all have been freeloading off of us forever.😂
@@PatriarchyisEquality4179no one is talking about you tho…. What a weird comment
@@PatriarchyisEquality4179why in the world would that be your hot take on a video of a murdered child
@@PatriarchyisEquality4179
What kind of women do you choose?
Get therapy.
😂😂😂
@griftospherequ alitycontrol4179 Nothing like an angry incel spouting off... guaranteed that you have never 'freeloaded' by looking after children, doing the housework, providing healthy meals... and on and on about those female 'freeloader' slaves you see women as.
A cult within a cult.
YES! The LDS/Mormon is a cult
💯
Joseph Smith=false prophet=LDS=Mormon-CULT
The only evil here is Lori and Chad!
He looks guilty just sitting in that seat ! Sick man.
His eyes are evil!!
He is not a man, he is a mouse
I still can’t believe they killed JJ and Tylee 😢
Imo, Chad did all this because he wanted to have an affair without being judged and Lori liked being called a goddess
Nothing Lori had to offer was worth the lives of all these much beloved people ❤
Yes it's still so shocking every time we hear it. I think taking on an autistic child was never part of Chad's plan. He wanted to be alone with Lori and live off the proceeds from the murders. Part of that plan went south when they found out Charles had changed the beneficiary on his life insurance. But, he was quick to claim on Tammy's death and Lori kept cashing in the kids' insurance payments after their death.
I know, like how did they even think they would get away with this? Did she not know that someone would ask about her children? I guess not bc she got rid of their father, so she thought no one else would question her…. Or look for the children… I still wanna know whose idea was it to kill everyone?
Something els that got my attention was, was Alex gonna talk ? Is that why they killed Alex too ? I think they realized Alex was gonna talk and tell on them …
@@Tomtaylor7337 I thought about this as well. I wonder if Chad or Lori did something to kill Alex for fear he would talk. It’s crazy the amount of people that died connected to them.
@@Tomtaylor7337 Hear what you're saying but Alex's death was not declared a homicide but rather that he died natural cause. Not sure he could have talked without implicating himself because he was far from innocent. He was however worried about becoming "the fall guy" according to his wife.
On July 11th, 2019, Charles Vallow went to pick up his son at the home of his estranged wife... After he arrived, in the house that morning were Charles Vallow, Tylee Ryan (his step-daughter), JJ Vallow (his adopted son), Alex Cox (his brother-in-law) & LORI VALLOW... of these 5 people 4 are now dead.... not one of these people there that day are alive BUT Lori Vallow.
Crazy and devastating (except for Alex being gone) when you think about it that way! 😢
What else happened that morning?
Also Joe Ryan and a neighbor, Eldon
Great point‼️
Makes me sick that immunity was given to Zulema. She knew what zombie meant and did nothing to save Charles, JJ Tyle. She was a willing participant, just like gibb, and all of them should have been tried. Prosecution made a deal with the devil.
Yep. It's so gross!!
Agreed. Should not be just Chad and Lori..
What I don't understand is the new husband of Melanie marrying a looney with 4 kids. That's what I don't understand.
And he married her within a RIDICULOUSLY short period of time!!! Like weeks or days after first meeting her!!! BIZARRE people!!!
Maybe because some of these women are actresses. Idealistic by the constant grooming -. Its the impression I get... vtery worrying.Tammy was a natural beauty (unenhanced) pity he never saw it later days
Yep, Ian Pawlowski is just as crazy to have married religious nut Melani Pawlowski (previously Boudreaux), just 10 days after meeting her. He needs to watch his back - she plotted with her Aunt Lori and Uncle Alex to murder her previous husband Brandon, for his large life insurance policy.
Worse - she accepted Chad Daybell's claim that two of her children were 'Dark'. How much longer before she handed them over to be murdered?
Not only is Melani Pawlowski very lucky to have got away with plotting Brandon Boudreaux's assassination, it's amazing she's still allowed access to her 4 kids when it's clear she believed Chad Daybell's garbage about 'light and dark' and 'zombies' and his slander that two of her children were so afflicted!
It's entirely possible Chad and Lori's arrest for multiple murders saved those two children's lives. Ian Pawloski needs to watch over his children very closely!
He is having more kids with her, talk about being crazy. This is not love, but lust and wont survive the test of times. MG and DW will divorce, so will MP and IP.
After only dating for 2 weeks. It was on their honeymoon that he went to the police and agreed to wear a wire. Who does that?!
Who the heck did he think he was to determine who dies and lives.. what an arrogant jerk!!
I think they killed JJ because it would cause Kay more pain than she and Larry could stand.
It’s certainly possible. I think Lori was so upset that Charles changed the life insurance to Kay that killing him was her ultimate punishment
Gosh I wonder if the grandparents were next on their list
Yeah it was for vengeance about money Charles left Kay! No doubt! Just so evil 😈
Nah they would not get his money.
Only reason.
Yes! I think so too. It just shows another layer of their evil nature.
Sick that the police did not take Charles serious. It could have saved not only his life but that of JJ and Tylee
And they didn't followed up his complaints after his death. Why did they not crossed information? It is lazy work from them.
"Ned"?? Really?? He believed he was possessed by an evil demon named...Ned? 😂
Yes, think "Ned Flanders"
😂😂😂
Actually Ned Schnider.. You can't make this s+++ up
He must be embarrassed beyond and morally bankrupt to sit there knowing all this info is out in the open for all to see that Chad is GUILTY!!!
Nah. He is getting more cult members
Why am I obsessed with this case?
Anyone else with me? 🤔
Because it’s so weird and we all beg to know WHY? And WHAT on earth created these monsters??!!! 🤦♀️
I’ve been obsessed since I first heard about it when Nate went to Hawaii seeking answers about the kids
It's like an accident you can't stop looking even though you know you shouldn't. I am so happy I didn't know anyone of these people. How long before they got mad at one of his kids and decided they were dark? He could take out insurance on any one of them and then they would die from some mysterious ailment or a grandchild? I bet he was trying to figure out how to get rid of his brother and Heather so he could have their land. Creepy
I was CONVINCED they would find the kids at some summer cult camp or something
@@juliespencer9673yup. A lot of people think that. Watch "True Crime." When they look at the land that was supposed to be Chad's tent city. It was his brother's land.
Convenient that all the visions and revelations Chad had directly led to he and Lori getting richer and indulging their lechery.
Lori turned on joe ryan and Charles vallow ....wondor if she'd ever see chad as dark or whether he will turn on her ....... lots of people lori " loved" are dead .... stacy , joe ryan, Charles vallow and tylee and jj ...
Looks like Chad is turning on her blaming her for everything. He’s pleading innocent. Also only Lori’s family and kids are dark. His are all light.
Stacy?
@@jennaagee7992stacy was lori n Alex sister and melaniece mum .....she died first
How did joe ryan die please and thank you😢😢
and her own brother Alex is also dead
The tragic thing about this is the true beliefs of LDS is a child cannot commit a sin or be possessed until the age of 8. Also a handicap child could never be possessed or commit sin because they are protected from evil in this probation. It crazy that she could even utter it. Also she is faking the mental illness because she was aware enough to lie to church authorities to keep her Temple recommend. They are both just pure evil.
Alexs phone pinged near daybells on the night of Tammy's death
Chad definitely let Alex into the house to murder Tammy. Chad wouldn’t get his hands dirty. He’s too “special”
These kinds of people pick and choose whatever beliefs end up benefitting them given the situation and certainly aren't consistent. It's much like that case where those two guys made a cult, Coltharp and Shaffer, in their trailer out in the middle or nowhere in Utah where it just so happens he got a vision that they had to marry each others daughters
Just how long did lori think she could collect benefits from missing children??
She is a goddess, lol. Probably forever?😂😂😂
Don't forget the analyst who testified of Lori and Chad's wedding plans which explains the timeline of Tammy's death. Chad and Lori's wedding date was set in advance, and Tammy had to be dead and buried before the wedding could take place. That's the deciding factor of guilt for me.
Am I the only person who doesn't believe most of what Zulema says? The number of times she stutters and says, "um" makes me think she is trying to remember a script... 🤨
I was thinking that too. Um...um...um...🤨
An evil spirit named “Ned”? Not buying it
"Ned" is the best name Chud's limited fantasy could produce, which gives the world an excellent example of his "artistic" capabilities.
An evil spirit is all I'd need to hear 🙄
Glad it's not Ed
Only on "The Simpsons"....
😂😂😂
Zulema sealed Chad's fate! He his done!
Did you find her to be believable? I can’t help but to feel in my gut that she has lied so much so far.
How is she able to go along with everything like a perfectly innocent victim, yet she was perfectly sane enough to constantly ask very direct questions at the same time? Especially when it came to asking Alex about if he is okay after murdering someone!!
No ma’am. This woman was 100% complicit. She is unhinged and dangerous. She isn’t much better than Alex, Lori and Chad, IMO.
She was ALMOST the ideal candidate for a cult. I say “almost”, because she is equally as selfish and evil as they are and was clearly so quick to throw them under the bus in order to save herself. LOL
When the trial first began, I was worried his lawyer would end of confusing the jurors of his guilt. However, the more and more witnesses that come out and testify, his fate is sealed. Thank goodness.
I think Jason stuck a fork in him
Did she receive insurance money for his death?
That is a big possibility. Bc Melanie pawlowski wanted her husband Brandon dead. She saw how Lori n Chad were getting insurance money from deceased spouses n kids. Again greed
He’s such a coward! He thinks he’s so cool in front of the handful of people who joined in his “delusion”, but when it’s time to face the music, he shrinks like a flower. I firmly believe that he and Lori pretended to believe these things so they could justify their heinous actions, but also have vulnerable people look up to them.
My gosh, I wish the Jury could hear this podcast! Amazing job!
My SECOND career was a criminal defense attorney. My first was a US Army officer with 5 years, 8 months up-front combat time. As expected, my legal views cut straight to the point, and straight to the principles of jurisprudence on which things are based.
Chad Daybell, in actuality, had INVOLVEMENT in at least FOUR murders, not three. The fourth was the murder of Charles Vallow. However, there's probably a lack of conclusive evidence of his direct involvement. Thus, he's charged with Conspiracy to Commit Murder in Charles' murder.
Alex Cox, Lori's mentally disabled brother. The timing of his death is extremely alarming. I suspect that if future, in-depth medical examination is conducted, it will determine that he was murdered as well.
This entire, crazy, twisted, horrific circus is beyond belief for the rest of us. For folks my age, it's Manson-esqe; akin to Charles Manson's con-game indoctrination of his followers.
This is way off topic hah but Jesse webber reminds me of the heart and soul of nsync aka JC Chasez haha
Me too😊
@@MariaL2202 😆🤣
I've thought that too! 😄🤣
Yes!!😂
Omg yes! So glad I’m not the only one who thought this 😂❤❤ JC was my favorite lol
Pastenes went to the hospital, and investigators found her sitting next to her husband’s body. They asked to speak with her in another room.
“Zulema asked me why she was being questioned, and if she was considered a suspect in the death of her husband,” a detective wrote in his report. “I assured her she was not a suspect, but I needed information from her regarding what happened at her house when Alex was discovered.”
Lori should have gotten the death penalty..
Why isn’t this witness in prison as well!?
because she didn't do anything?
@@WarriorVinyard she knew that kids were going to die and while the whole world was wondering where they were, she 100% knew they were dead. I know different states have different laws, but foreknowledge of harm of minors and doing nothing is actually a crime in some.
Not LDS…it’s LSD! 💁♀️🥴
Zulema is half a step up from a potted plant
You're being generous
Alex being Lori's protector makes a lot of sense to me. Alex comes off very arrogant to me. He and Lori's relationship was strange. In fact, I suspect they had an inappropriate brother sister relationship to be quite honest.
Flirty almost. Both of their disconnect for human life makes me wonder if they are sociopaths. There's so many personalities and characters to unpack in this story. It's bizarre that these people were so easily persuaded by Chad's ideas under the guise of religion. It's terrifying actually.
At least, it seemed like Alex leaned that way and Lori was happy to take advantage of that fact.
I’ve been waiting for this Jesse… I need to save these special episodes FOREVER!!!!!
Chad may be meeting quite a few zombies and those otherwise filled with darkness pretty soon now.
Its baffling to think that Chad would think he may somehow be not found guilty, like the jury is going to be all "oh yeah, that all makes total sense." With this ridiculous insane story. He must have believed it a little bit since he took jt to trial.
All these people who were "follwing" chad and lori are now testifying against them. Are they so willingly
Thank you. I don't know if this was brought up in the trial.
Mel G said in an interview that Lori said months before Charles' murder that:
1. After the 2020 Utah Earthquake, it will be total chaos. No one would notice that Chad and her were a couple.
2. Daybell and Vallow became more reckless and carefree after only a little trouble from Charles' murder.
3. I think Daybell is evil. He doesn't believe.
a) They rented that condo in HA for at least six months.
b) HA is the worst place to deal with ordinary things. It's four to six hours behind. To get to ID from Maui, one needs to take three to five planes.
4. I think 50 year old wannabe Barbie hag does believe.
Wanna be Barbie hag 🤣 love it
Just an FYI, Hawaii is HI.
come back as colbys son wth
The demon theory is exactly how it is shown in the tv series "Supernatural" 😅 It's insane that people would buy such a theory!
So Zulema is now a Blonde and Melani P is a Brunette
Putting all of these threads together paints a devastating narrative. Even after following this case closely, hearing all of this is difficult to take in. Chad and Lori are completely delusional and perhaps they are demons. These two people caused so much suffering to so many people.
What number did Chad consider him and Lori were? They are a bit on the dark side dont ya think???
Diabolical.
Zulema has a screw loose. I don’t know if it’s fake so she doesn’t get charged but all these ppl had enough information to save the kids. Plain and simple, they chose not to because they are self absorbed and evil.
Hello! My name is CHAD! pleased to meet you' hope you guessed my name~~
I see what you did there.
@@ettajfan5882 I actually love the song!
Hi, I am lori, your next wife!
Creepy.
Far out I hope authorities are keeping an eye on the rest of the crazies involved in this as it wasn't just Chad and Lori who seemed to believe all this craziness. So frightening there is this level of crazy people.
Rest in peace Jj, Tylee, Charles, Tammy and Joe Ryan.
Lori went from having a beautiful face to that of an old hag. I wonder if Chad is still in love with her since he was so obsessed with her beauty. Now that she presents as an old hag, I'm thinking this is how true evil eventually manifests itself.
Jason &. Samantha Gwilliam were Staunch, Truthful &. stood Strong on the Witness Stand today, &. Really Tied up a lot of Loose Ends in this Tragic case, for me today.😌
What a bunch nuts!!!!!!!
Oh c'mon. Melanie didn't ask about the kids
It's over for "Bad Grandpa"!!!!!
Chad's eyes are so evil!!
They are all equally guilty
I'm thinking Cox was a loose end and was done away with, probably by his wife since Chad & Lori didn't like to do the dirty work.
I don't think Zulema had anything to do with Alex dying. I think when he went to Mexico for the day, he bought some sort of drug like cyanide pills or SOMETHING and took it when he got home.
No, Zulema did not kill Alex.
I've heard an interesting theory that Alex THOUGHT he was bout to die and be possessed so he poisoned himself to avoid being turned into a zombie and going dark. At this point, I wouldn't out rule anything .
Ridiculous
I wanna know why JJ was in tact but Tylee wasn't 😭🤦🏼♀️ what torture did she have to endure???
There's a psychic on you tube who shockingly detailed the whole crime before it was solved and Chad and Lori actually cut off her limbs and ate her.
This part has never been put out by the courts.
She goes by the name Reverend something..
I'll try to look it up.
😢😢😢
Omg it sounds like Chad and Lori used Lori's brother Alex to do the killing but Chad and Lori gave the orders. Chad allowed Alex to bury the kids in his yard . So evil
Zulema is a true believer
Yeah she is crazy!
Zulema hears Lori angry on the phone and she doesn't ask what or who she was talking about?
Definitely NOT LDS doctrine
Great video.
I wish I could hear from a psychologist give their opinion of Chad & Lori, because I can't figure out if they are sociopaths or pathological liars.
When Chad warned his sister-in-law and her husband nor to believe Heather, because she was spreading rumors about Chad & Lori, that made me think maybe Chad just keeps lying on top of lies because he can't stop. I don't know.
To say I have never met a person like Chad is true. I guess he kept most of his behavior hidden.
He and Lori are narcissist compulsive liars living only in fantasy as that’s what they do!!!!
Narcissist sociopaths! Also compulsive lying yes! That comes with a narcissist!!! Both of them identified by psychologists on UA-cam!
Hidden True Crime is a UA-cam channel and web site run by Dr. John and Lauren Matthias. John is a forensic psychologist. They have many many videos about this case. Dr John espeically lends a rich psychological understanding of this case.
Ditto. @Hidden True Crime. Dr. John.
Poor Lori didn't get Charles Vallow's Million dollar life insurance policy. At least he got the last laugh.
Why are they not investigating Alex’s timely death?
I hope as she is speaking out loud about zombies how ridiculous she sounds
Oh that thumbnail though... those two pictures side by side, Chode and The Harpy are posed almost exactly like Tylee and JJ. 🤢
Omg you're right!! How creepy! 😮
@@laurakenney8 - They are... nauseating....
The add in between: No wonder why the US hasn't got a total health care system up yet like other modern countries. So many people in insurance companies and law firms would have to slim 90%. In other countries a popupaltion's health and help is covered through the taxes. That makes your next not being a potential threat who you might sue or who might sue you......
I think Zulema is very believable
I wonder if while she is testifying and hearing herself explain this out loud of she realizes how freaking Ludacris this sounds!? I hope they all feel ridiculous for believing this crazy story that led to two children's murder as well as Chad's wife's murder
SO MUCH DEATH AROUND LORI....AND ALEX....STILL WONDER IF THEY WILL EXHUME LORI SISTER AND JOE
Zulima is prosecution gold.
Deal with the devil for sure as she was all in on it!
15:00 I thought we were going to get through with ANOTHER advertisement. There are so many on this now.
After the ad., no info from Jesse who was on the stand. It was Zulema before. 🙄
“ something he needed help with “
Which means help me off my wife
Lori knew exactly what was gonna happen to Tammy hence why she went to Hawaii she needed alibi.
Great content, but so many ads!! Cmon guys, you need to do better
Their beliefs have nothing to do with the LDS Church..... Zero!
Some of those beliefs track back to Mormons ….. they all practice end of times and hoard food in cellars as I have seen it!!! They believe they are all special chosen ones too! And much more of that crazy crap is tracked to Mormonism and LDS! A historian of religion tracked it all to LDS and other religious writings in a recent video on Nate’s East Idaho news page! Go listen! It’s astounding but very factual!
TY Jesse🎉 Ian Palowski testimony and recordings were so great. I dont think this jury is going to buy the story that chad was innocent and this entire thing was lori. Does he think anyone will believe he did not know his own backyard had been dug up?
I know. The police could tell where to dig by looking at the areas covered with new grass.
Q❓Is the picture of Chad and Tammy in front of the waterfall on Chad's bday, when him and Lori were fighting?
Does your new girlfriend have any baggage? Well, there's all these dead bodies.
I wonder how many books he has sold since he got so 'famous'?
-o-
I don’t know why but I think the testimony from the insurance broker disturbed me more than anything we’ve heard. It just shows how much they were ready to move on, going about their lives, and doing regular adult things such as going to an insurance agent and attempting to benefit from the deaths of her children and his wife. It really makes it feel more real.
When is this trial going to be over. Seems like it's been going on forever. We're living here.
The only demons are Chad and Lori. Possessed by demons.
Let’s please not forget those lives that were lost bcuz of this group of people…. Two innocent children, a beautiful lady and a wonderful man… Bcuz supposedly they were dark!!!! I pray Justice Will Be Served!!!!
why didnt lori get the death penalty though?
Beutiful looking children❤may they rest in peace ❤
Imagine you're a dark spirit, you've just possessed someone's body, you've got some cool name like Borengoth, and you got some weirdo calling you Ned
Do we know if there's many Mormon people on this jury or are they not allowed to ask those questions?
I'm guessing that it would be discrimination unless for some reason there was grounds to bring it in to ask in voir dire?
15:36 JOIN MY CULT: I don't talk about anything really, just words.
NEW VIDEO EVERYDAY!
I believe that Chad honestly thinks he's getting off this I hope not I hope he stays in prison for the rest of his life
I know the jury is not supposed to watch anything concerning this case...but could they watch Lori's trial??
I’m sure these jurord go home and watch TV
Technically no, they can’t watch any coverage or read or investigate the case further as that would be facts not in evidence in the case. No discussion or research outside of the trial of any kind. Nothing that would influence their opinion in anyway and her case is directly tied with his. Does everyone actually abide by it to the letter? I’m sure not but if you get caught, you’re in big trouble as that risks a mistrial.
Somebody please explain this $430k insurance payout to Chad. The only testimony I heard was that he received a check for $130k.
Chad increased his wife's life insurance to $430,000 right before she died. Now, doesn't that sound suspicious? Chad and Lori spent half of that while they were in Hawaii.
@@user-yf6cd9bb8t This does not answer the question. Testimony shows he got only $130k and that Tammy upped her insurance to only that amount. The jury was also shown a check for $130k. So where are people getting $430k??
@@user-yf6cd9bb8t This doesn't answer the question. Where are you getting the $430k? No testimony shows this, only $130k. I think people assumed it was $430 but it was not. Show me the testimony.
Zulema and Mel P should be in prison. Mel G maybe too for helping Lori cover it up, even if she came to her senses after and told the truth.
She’s crazy
I'd love to see law & crime make a compilation of other cases similar to this where people create their own religion or bend their current religion to fit their monetary needs and their lustful wants. There's not many that come to mind but I'm sure there are some.