@Jesse or whomever reads comments: do you all know where the Walmart class action is? (For overcharging for meats and veggies…which is STILL going on! I got some chicken breasts a few days ago..2 medium size, I think actual total weight was about 1.5lbs. No more than that. I PAID for 3.5lbs. 🙄. I’m disabled, in a wheelchair and legally blind; I don’t drive and order things with WalMart +. Luckily, since I found out this was happening and check meat and veggies every delivery; they’ve been great about refunding the overcharge and when I had a delivery last month that was $20+ overcharge; they gave me “Walmart bucks” for the entire delivery. On the other hand, I had no idea this was happening until I was told about the class action. According to some videos online, this has been a regular, country-wide practice for more than 2 years. My daughter sent me a link a few months ago; but that article that linked to the lawsuit was removed and the only other links were scams-in fact I informed our Senior center about the scam sites pretending to be the law firm…asking for information up front that I KNOW would not be required…AND the links themselves…no class action is going to ask for your SS number and bank info..and please send to a Google email?!?! 🙄😡. Another was an 800 number and they tell you there’s a CHARGE to receive money from the suit. Another was an actual subscription scam…for the low low price of $7.95 they will send you monthly info on class actions, including this Walmart one. Then, you read the T & C and you’re authorizing a $59.99 monthly payment for a “coupon” to “The internet’s best discount site to purchase whatever you want. 🙄😖 (sad thing about this last one is it appears to be based right here in the US…in Utah. My ex is a software engineer in security and has added it to his growing list of “subscription scams” based here in the US. There’s some websites like NewsBreak, which tends to have an older demographic, is absolutely loaded with these scams. And unfortunately, most banks and some credit cards are no longer covering these subscription scams. It’s up to us to protect ourselves) If you know the VALID site for the Walmart class action; could you please post it?
Everyone should know that R didn't escape to get his mother in trouble. R was trying to turn himself into the police because he thought he was evil and was never going to not be a burden to his mother. He told the neighbor and 911 that the wounds were his own fault. Ruby was blessed with an amazing son and took it for granted.
That is true but he saved himself and his sister. His mother most likely told him he needed to be arrested. Incredible. The abuse was so horrible so terrible and horrific. Words don’t have enough power to describe it.
@@SunnyDays70sa parent who is that easily controlled doesn’t deserve their children. He had no problem standing by Ruby’s garbage behavior for years before Jody got involved. He is not the victim here. He’s pathetic.
The neighbour cried, one of the first responders cried in bodycam , maybe others did too but there was no doubt the cops, paramedics and the neighbours showed more kindness to the 2 kids in a day than those 2 abusers showed them in years
The 1st neighbour wasn’t home or just missed him ( not sure what part) and saw him and messaged Jodi. Imagine if he told R to sit and wait. R may have never be seen again :( The second neighbour Thankyou 👏🏻
The County Attorney Eric Clarke has said he thinks Ruby is truly sorry and he wants her to be reunited with her family if the children decide they want to see her. This is crazy. Abused children shouldn't be forced to decide in cases like this. They are so broken, Ruby and Jodi need to stay in prison at least 30 years. I think Eric Clarke has a crush on Ruby. He practically gushed over her plea speech saying it was "heartfelt".
Ruby Franke is a Mother that doesn't Love 💔 her Children, 😫 She Lacks Empathy, She doesn't have Concious at all. She is a Sadistic Mother 😬 who Enjoys Torturing her children, Seeing her Children Suffering 😢. If Ruby Franke Cried in Court, She was Crying Only, for herself !! and she was Crying because she was Caught by the Police and she knew she was going to be a Prisoner in Jail for many Years. Ruby Franke was Crying in Court with Crocodile 🐊 Tears. She was only Crying for herself. As a mother Ruby Franke was not Interested in her children's Welfare. She had So much Fun Torturing her Children 😢 and being So Mean to them. Efrat
Ruby Franke was Crying 😢in Court just for herself, She Was Crying that she was Caught by the Police and she knew she was going to be in Prison for many Years. Ruby Franke has No Concious at all, she wasn't Crying for the Suffering of her Children 😢, she was Crying for herself. Efrat.
Ruby was horrible before Jodi. She is sadistic towards her children, punishing them by taking food away, making them sleep outside, setting her kids up with situations they would not be able to navigate, then punishing them. That is a sadist.
And Kevin was involved and participated and was in full support of everything until…oopsie what he means is he was a victim too. 🤔 Hmmm he’s an adult. Don’t get me wrong I think he needs help and I hope he gets it. But he should NOT have kids. He admits he’s broken.
When you say how do you not see any of your children for a year, many many dads don't see their kids. They are deadbeat dads, they don't care. This is just not the only case with Kevin.
For an educated, PhD professor, there's ZERO excuse for not seeing your kids for a year. I'm sorry, the brainwashed excuse doesn't hold for this. Damn, that Mormon Kool-Aid must be strong stuff!
He didn't care about those kids. He only cares about Ruby. The kids were just another job expected of him by the church and not made out of love (except for themselves). He was doing what Ruby wanted of him to please Ruby. The kids weren't even an afterthought for him. He was enjoying not have to deal with 4 kids but was not enjoying being away from his wife.
and the courts didnt give the journals much thought...they just charged on the 3 months of abuse..that prosecutor is horrible. they could have got attempted murder when ruby said that they were going to put them in the arizona property and said "they will not go home" well, what would that mean? where would they go ruby?
The professionalism and sensitivity these cops showed to the girl still in the house is unmatched. He sat down with her and waited til she was ready to come out of the closet. So sad
The Policemen and Policewoman in Utah are So Wonderful, Kind, Professional and Sensitive. They were Really Great and Wonderful 😃 💕🌷💐 Excellent Policemen 👏 and Policewoman. Thank You so much to them. Efrat
@@ameliacoburn4787why are you caping so hard for that scumbag? He didn't even ask how his kids were after learning they were hospitalized. He asked about Ruby! He doesn't care about those kids, only Ruby and himself. FFS he wanted to press charges on Sheri for B&E when it was the cops who did it, then wanted to press charges on her for taking stuff from the home. What was he so worried about on those electronic devices? Even when he got them back he was mad that he couldn't press charges.
Yes and I also believe he would have ruby back in a heart beat. He's obsessed with her. Look at his reaction when he was first told by the cops. 'I love my wife I want my wife back'
Ruby hasn't changed. That type of behavior didn't start with Jodi. Jodi just gave her a push to do it harder. She sounded like she changed but it's all a show. It will take more than a few months in jail for her to undo everything she has done and her beliefs
Ruby didn't apologize to her children. I didn't believe the speech, it sounded like it was written for her. I hope she is in at the very least 20 years.
It screamed narcissistic sociopath. Very similar to the "eloquent" speech Paul Ferguson made before being sentenced for torturing & starving his little autistic brother to death. He continues to believe his mother controlled it all and "made" him inflict the torture while she was at work. 21:21
@@meowzers8937 I think he's in denial, too. I had abusive parents, and more than 20 years later, I still learn how f*d-up psychos they were. New memories surface every now and then. Every time I think now, I've grasped the whole extent of the fu*d-upness, there's still something more that totally baffles me. The human brain just protects them, as the brutal reality might be too harsh to bear. Those things need to be approached step by step with professional help. I hope all the kids get the help they need to heal from this horror.
Hope it's better than the therapy they had Chad in originally. That being Jodi and he himself apparently had to pay her a crap load of money every month.
Both parents and the other demon deserve life in prison without the possibility of parole in my opinion. The fathers just as guilty because he was a part of the abuse when they did their videos . Rotten low life’s aren’t they ?
@@MyLifeAsRazinellshe keeps on getting away somehow, but Kevin mentioned her being very involved in the creation and running of the cult and her husband and her had kids at their house to serve out the punishments by cleaning it. She was 100% involved, probably in the worst of it, and somehow she is escaping justice
In a call with her sister Ruby talked about being remorseful and how showing remorse could affect her sentence. I think that whole speech at her sentencing was an early attempt to be able to serve the shortest possible sentence. I don't think she's actually remorseful. I think it's an act.
It definitely is, if you remember her first call ever from jail, that’s truly how she is and feels when she talks to (her now soon to be husband). After that, I think her lawyer advised her to act and show remorse which then her other calls changed dramatically with her sister and again with her husband. 100% an act. I just hope she stays in jail until the kids are at least 18.
@@Grow_withbella "Definitely"??? How the heck do you know? A) Chad believed it was genuine and thinks there's hope for a relationship again someday in the future. B) Until a certain point Ruby was still believing everything Jodi said.... so of course her first phone call was still in denial.
Of course that long winded crap speech, was to manipulate her sentencing, everything she does is calculated. She should never be released. Not to be ever trusted. Her nasisiltic nature would want revenge.
@@ameliacoburn4787 if that’s what you believe then okay. And yes, I say definitely because this didn’t just start with Jodi. Ruby is a grown adult who should be accountable for what she’s done and not blame it all on Jodi. They are both guilty. You have never been in a situation where parent manipulate children into thinking what they are doing is wrong. It’s going to take a lot more from Ruby to change than just a few nights from jail. There was no therapist involved, nothing and all of a sudden miraculously she woke up from whatever world she was in and saw and believed what she did was wrong. Okay then 🤷🏽♀️
Her sister should be listened to. The redactions were due to being too graphic about the torture of the children, not to protect Ruby. She is a monster.
@@martinastreisel514she already got a sweet deal from the prosecution. She is guilty. Judge gave a sentence range. And in crazy ol Utah, a parole board will decide how long she serves. So praying that those folks see this released evidence and give BOTH ladies full sentences.
Yes, and Bonnie goes on to say that Ruby doesn't need 'mercy', she needs to be in prison and stay there for a very long time!!! People have so many negative things to say about those sisters but I think they are fab. Loving, caring, passionate ladies with big hearts who have been utterly crushed by what Ruby has done 😭💔
More than likely the parole board that is set to decide the number of years these two monsters get, are more than likely MORMAN and the Mormon Church knew all about Jodi Hildebrand they sent people to her. They r a strange cult.
I urge people to watch the various documentaries about these things. Do NOT be fooled. I'm appalled at the charges. Child abuse? This isn't child abuse. This was AT LEAST child slavery, systematic torture and attempted murder of minors. They were STARVING them! Why aren't people protesting at the court?!! 15 Years max? They should receive a MINIMUM of 25 years.
I think Chad's response speaks volumes about his character. He comes off so nonchalant, even if he is hurting inside, and that is telling his mother that she may have controlled every aspect of his life, she may have abused him, brainwashed him, hurt him, etc. But now that he is grown and free from that, she's utterly irrelevant to him. He's who he is now because he is in control of his life, and she has no power over him even in memory. I do hope he's doing okay and that he seeks help if he needs it, but man, that is the biggest slap in the face to any abusive parent from their child. "You're irrelevant to me."
In the video that he was streaming, he said he hopes to reconcile with her in the future. He’s still quite a bit under her thumb, even when she’s behind bars.
@@kremmiz1as an estranged daughter, takes a lot to realize that your parents won’t change and for your safety you have to stay away. I went back to try to get the relationship back a few times, the last time I even allowed her to manipulate me to stay in her house the last time I went to my hometown. That didn’t went well at all. I was in therapy and doing a lot of healing, but still as adults we need our parents. Realizing your parents never loved you in a healthy way could be really hard to process. Time and healing. I hate they have to do all that healing work now, because is not easy and nobody should have to go through that. Parents are supposed to be emotionally available for their children and love them.
@@lhr8833 Very well said. In my career, we see kids who constantly want to go back to their parents, though they have been horribly abused in different ways. in many cases, they accept their fate and then pass it on to their children. Regards to you for getting out of that mind frame.
@@kremmiz1As a child abuse survivor, that’s pretty normal. Every child wants a relationship with their parents…or at least wants their parents to love them. So any chance of that happening is hard to fathom, let alone let go of. It’s even more complicated when the abuse is mental or emotional. Even in adulthood it’s still hard for children to completely denounce and cut all ties to their abusive parents. To judge children of abusive parents for hoping for a relationship with their parents or trying to reconcile is inappropriate and so unnecessary. It’s not helpful and only serves to victimize them further. It may not be the best idea for the child to reconnect as an adult, but that should be their choice and something they learn and experience on their own. That’s not for anyone else to decide.
It’s also just used with children (getting down to their level and giving them space to feel comfortable). She was definitely dehumanized, but this one of the few things that wasn’t a sign of that.
"Complaining to CPS for years".. i dont think most people understand how hard it is to get an indictment as a whistle-blower. The process isn't what one would imagine.
True it's a long process but now everyone is suddenly involved obviously they didn't open the door cuz they had what to hide and the police and CPS can't exactly burst in especially without a warrant
Abusive mothers are sorry once they are caught by authorities or their peers, they don't give two craps when their kids express sadness of their cruelty because it's all about power. Once they lose the power they are sorry because they are no longer getting that high from their abusive actions. I would never trust her again if I were her kids. She's clearly a narcissist or something where she is truly incapable of caring about others feelings. They only act caring to manipulate people.
Yes spot on, i wouldn't be surprised the narsisist Ruby is getting strength planning how she will invoke revenge. She should never see the light of day.
She knew it was wrong because she mentioned it in her journal and was very secretive about it. Of course she doesn't feel bad. She has shark eyes. I'll never forget how happy she looked when she said she hoped no one her KINDERGARTENER who forgot her lunch
Don't excuse Kevin's own role in the abuse of his children. It's documented on the UA-cam videos that he was fully complicit in the abuse of his children with his wife and he DID have contact with ruby throughout the year of separation. What kind of father has no contact with his children for a year?? He's just as responsible for his inaction....doing nothing is doing something.
How does Kevin have a right to sue anyone? Those kids are not in his care. Only he’s responsible for his house payment. Downsize!! He’s not raising those kids and hopefully never will.
I’m sure u was 1 of the ones that thought crystal(harmony Montgomery mom) should sue. She didn’t have her kid either. At the end of the day, ppl run behind money. His kids, he’s entitled
He is obliged by the state of Utah to pay for the therapy and other needs of his minor children in state custody. Also he is suing because of his own loss of quality of life and income.
@@e.k.4508 the state of utah didn't tell him to abandon his kids to their psychopathic mother and her psychopathic friend. He did that. He's responsible.
Really hoping that these kids are being treated with love and care in social services now and that they are not being further abused like what happened to the Turpin kids
So many foster homes are also horrendous. I don't live in the US but have worked in mental health for years and people have NO idea. I pray that these children get the best treatment ❤
Coping with trauma manifests differently in everyone. Glad Chad is trying his best to understand, accept and find a path forward while also protecting his sisters.
Chad l9ving with Kevin is disheartening. His dad left him to be abused. Chad may not have a choice in where to live., but that is unfortunate. I do not believe Kevin should be trusted.
@@beareeves4923 Chad did say on one of his livestreams that him and his dad moved out on the same day. It's unclear if they moved in together at the time or if they left on the same day separately. Also the most recent update is Chad has moved out and is not longer living with Kevin. Chad moved in together with some friends
You know how children who have been abused are better able to express themselves more freely coloring in a coloring book. Playing that internet game is Chad's coloring book.
I don’t know why no one has spoken about this but Ruby and Kevin sent him to WILDERNESS CAMP at the behest of Jodi. It was horrible! It’s such a relevant piece of the abuse, and one that also points out Kevin’s involvement
The darkly humorous thing about that was that Chad wasn't even bothered by it other than the food being bad. It was like a vacation compared to what his normal home life was.
My bf was sent to one of those and it still messed with his head and heart everyday still ten years later (luckily the one he went to got shut down finally)
Chad didn't mind the camp at all! He liked most of it, except for the food. It's so important to listen to what the people involved think. It's too easy to think of us, rando's, to be able to judge about every aspect of their lives.
Keep in mind that for fundamentalist parents like this controlling your children and your public image is a top priority. He didn't care that he hadn't seen his kids in a year or whatever, but he cared when suddenly his public image and ability to have control over his kids was on the line.
Even after his first interview he was more concerned for his monster wife and said he wished he had been a better husband not a mention of been a better father
Chad and Shari (and the other children) deserve to be in control of how and when they speak. Especially after years of dealing with their mom and dad’s strict parenting.
Kevin's atty's statement sounds as though Kevin is working to get the family back together, he loves his wife, he only sought divorce on advice to show the legal system that he cares for his children. HE WOULD JUMP BACK IN WITH RUBY IN A HOT SECOND!
Bonnie was the first to pull away her relationship with her family including children telling Ruby she could not send her children to her home anymore due to things Bonnie’s children had told her that Ruby had done to them and their cousins
Me too. Cautious of them from any angle they are coming from whether it appear defensive or vulnerable or anything in-between, i dont trust their motives
Kevin SHOULD NEVER have those kids , he was a crappy father and allowed Ruby to do terrible things to those kiddoes and he never thought anything of it . I think he's thinking purely of the money , he stepped away from those kids when they needed him the most , terrible parents , both of them .
I believe Chad has a lot of unpacking to do because he still doesn’t see things like living on a bean bag and taking his bathroom door off at the age of 16 was ok, but IT WAS NOT OKAY, ITS ABUSE!
Probably. It will change when he gets older. Also: we the public are brainwashed by all the terrible news and hearing only the terrible news. It sure wasn't all bad! There were loving times for sure in their family. Especially for the two eldest children.
@@saratemp790 Exactly. And to know what happened to them hurt him to his stomach. I hope the family bond between the siblings is strong and will help them over time to get all in a better place
He is not okay! He’s using the video game to dissociate and disconnect from the emotions. He seems to be in a lot of denial especially when speaking about his Mom’s sincerity of her speech in court.
I agree. He is definitely not okay. This is far from anything a child could just quickly & easily move past. It surprises me that the channel 2 guy does not understand why the kid doesn’t want to do a face to face interview. He can’t because, like you said, he needs to hide and do things on his own terms. Poor kid.
Chad also said he didn't have a problem with the wilderness camp or having his bed taken away for six months for his prank. That doesn't surprise me. He was used to it, so it wasn't abusive, it was normal to him. It's like that with lots of kids.
The mother and father were abusive before Jodi. Both parents need to be in jail. Kevin cries for his wife The father has NO concern about his kids. That lady is going to say anything you want to hear just to get out of jail free.
Ruby was already cruel and controlling with her children. Jodi gave her permission to include Kevin in the punishments so they could clean out the bank accounts.
These videos are STILL breaking my heart and giving me tears. It REALLY breaks me to think you could be capable of doing this to children, no less your own. These poor poor children. No justice could ever prevail
Chad stated that he was shocked the third lady of connections (forgetting her name.. possibly pam?). Oh, i meant the PRESIDENT OF CONNECTIONS Pam- wasn't being investigated further and he thinks more should be done. Those middle girls 10000% were abused. I'm not sure if any more charges would be filed on Jodie considering they aren't her kids. And Ruby might argue that she had no idea the abuse took place because she wasn't in that home. I really hope all 3 get more charges honestly.
Blanket training used to be very standard in many religious households - not just LDS, but evangelical Christianity as well. To be clear - I think it's awful and would never, ever use it myself! But when you grow up in a culture where it's normal to blanket train (and let's not forget, there are definitely differing levels of 'blanket training' too) you're just following what you've been taught by other women that you look up to, and also, popular books on parenting which circulate these religious groups. Bonnie is a loving, passionate, fiercely protective Mama bear 💖 MANY of the women I speak to who blanket trained their first child hated doing so, and never did it again. Every single one regrets it. We shouldn't judge Bonnie for what she did as an extremely young Mum, following the advice of her older wider Mama mentors; are you the same now as you were 15-16 years ago? I know I'm not! All three sisters are great Mums. They don't need to be investigated 👎🏻 It's not fair to tar them all with the Ruby brush 💔
Ironic that Bonny is commenting on Ruby's cruelty to children when she blanket trains her own children, which to me is cruel in itself, controlling and denying the children their natural curiosity and need to explore, and which I believe causes psychological damage in its own way. Hypocrisy
Bonnie is so obnoxious. She made a living by exploiting her kids and sees nothing wrong with that. She did blanket training. Anyone who does that to babies is not right in the head.
What makes me think kevin knew what was happening is that when he talked to his wife after being arrested he never sounded outraged at his wife or even asked her if it was true that she hurt their kids?? Also Ruby is not fixed or had a change of heart bc she told Kevin that the injuries were grossly exaggerated to the kids. She simply smarter than Jody.. she is hoping to get less time..
I think that family is using Jody too much as an escape excuse away from their family member (mom). I saw some of those videos they made. Ruby is ruthless. That family is in denial.
If Ruby truly ment that speech in Court ,she wouldn't have been so defiant at the Police station ,she would have been shocked ,sorry and willing to talk from the very start !It was all an act which she was told to do by others including her lawyer to make her look better and gain sympathy,well she ain't got mine ,she doesn't fool me,she is a bloody Monster !😠
All of these adults are self centered and self serving. No one talks about the children, only themselves. Julie was present in the journals at the torture of the Franke children. Sick.
One of the middle girls is called Julie. Both of the middle girls were under Ruby & Jodi's control. So when Ruby writes about Julie she's referring to one of her daughters.
@@Aniram789 no. Julie is also her sister. When it's just a J it's the child. Julie was written out and it was very obvious it was another adult. Go read the journal entries online. I did and it's very obvious because LE tried to keep the children anonymous. Yes there is a child, Julie but that's not who I am referring to.
Ruby side of the family is no better then Ruby, they exploit their children as well and more worried about defending how THEY LOOK and how THEY ARE AFFECTED on UA-cam instead of being worried about ab the kids. They defended Ruby ab her parenting style up until this news came out. It’s all about them . Ruby was their cash cow so now that she’s gone they turned on her. Their fake. Their disgusting.
Ruby's sisters are all I, ME, blah blah blah. Barely any mention of Russell and Eve if at all. Ruby"s parents didn't even return from their mission trip when they heard what happened to their grandchildren. The entire family is narcissistic.
Bonnie and Ruby are the older two girls. They raised kids together and grew up together. Julie and Ellie are the younger sisters with younger kids. I think Bonnie just naturally feels closer to Ruby’s kids because they were having sleepovers at her house their whole lives. Their kids were best friends (until Ruby met Jodi and cut them off).
You are being bambozaled aboutt her sincerity. She said on the phone with someone "they" look for sincerity and regret. She's also had years of practice in front of cameras and composing believable content. Wake up. Ehe was mean spirited before Jody. Connextions and Jody gave her permission,
I never hear Ruby ever ask how her children are doing. Never when she was arrested or in any of her phone calls did she show any concern for them. She was still only concerned about Jodi and herself.
Bonnie Hoellein: “I want to be very clear I do not support Ruby. She doesn't need mercy. She doesn't need justice. She needs a jail cell.” Why didn't you guys mention this?
Ruby’s sister was teaching an abusive way of disciplining a baby with the blanket therapy. So I do find the whole family likes to use punishment as a tool to control their children.
Blanket training (or whatever it's called) is very harsh and horrible method originally. However, I remember watching Bonnie's video about this years ago, and if I remember correctly her way of doing it didn't involve any punishments or trauma. Kids were simply encouraged to play on blankets for short periods of time. That being said, it has been years since I watched this, so if my memory is betraying me, please let me know.
@@stacy6994 she didn’t care about putting her kids through that - it actually might’ve been cathartic for them to get that out- it’s all about protecting her own image and getting a lesser sentence by not making it a public spectacle
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Hi folks. Chad said, he thinks his mom should stay in until eve is 18yrs old. Not for 18 years.
@Jesse or whomever reads comments: do you all know where the Walmart class action is? (For overcharging for meats and veggies…which is STILL going on! I got some chicken breasts a few days ago..2 medium size, I think actual total weight was about 1.5lbs. No more than that. I PAID for 3.5lbs. 🙄. I’m disabled, in a wheelchair and legally blind; I don’t drive and order things with WalMart +. Luckily, since I found out this was happening and check meat and veggies every delivery; they’ve been great about refunding the overcharge and when I had a delivery last month that was $20+ overcharge; they gave me “Walmart bucks” for the entire delivery.
On the other hand, I had no idea this was happening until I was told about the class action. According to some videos online, this has been a regular, country-wide practice for more than 2 years. My daughter sent me a link a few months ago; but that article that linked to the lawsuit was removed and the only other links were scams-in fact I informed our Senior center about the scam sites pretending to be the law firm…asking for information up front that I KNOW would not be required…AND the links themselves…no class action is going to ask for your SS number and bank info..and please send to a Google email?!?! 🙄😡. Another was an 800 number and they tell you there’s a CHARGE to receive money from the suit. Another was an actual subscription scam…for the low low price of $7.95 they will send you monthly info on class actions, including this Walmart one. Then, you read the T & C and you’re authorizing a $59.99 monthly payment for a “coupon” to “The internet’s best discount site to purchase whatever you want. 🙄😖 (sad thing about this last one is it appears to be based right here in the US…in Utah. My ex is a software engineer in security and has added it to his growing list of “subscription scams” based here in the US. There’s some websites like NewsBreak, which tends to have an older demographic, is absolutely loaded with these scams. And unfortunately, most banks and some credit cards are no longer covering these subscription scams. It’s up to us to protect ourselves)
If you know the VALID site for the Walmart class action; could you please post it?
Tell jesse weber to put his volume up. He's too quiet!
TELL THIS GUEST TO STOP SAYING "RIGHT"?. IT IS SO ANNOYING.
I noticed it the last time he was on. VERY UNPROFESSIONAL
Everyone should know that R didn't escape to get his mother in trouble. R was trying to turn himself into the police because he thought he was evil and was never going to not be a burden to his mother. He told the neighbor and 911 that the wounds were his own fault. Ruby was blessed with an amazing son and took it for granted.
Children always put the blame on themselves. It's truly heartbreaking
That is true but he saved himself and his sister. His mother most likely told him he needed to be arrested. Incredible. The abuse was so horrible so terrible and horrific. Words don’t have enough power to describe it.
This is on point.
@@4MAGAWhen your mom constantly tells you you are evil it does have an effect.
@beareeves4923 yes, I can't imagine what those children will go through
The fact that Kevin never legally filed for access in one year means he was neglectful. Not a victim. So sick of men getting away with abondonment.
Me too!
The entire family was manipulated and deceived. Kevin believed he was supposed to stay away. It's pretty messed up but manipulation is crazy real.
You need to dig deeper to understand how Jodi separated couples/ he’s not the only father she managed to alienate from the family. It’s mind control.
Mind control veiled by faith @@SunnyDays70s
@@SunnyDays70sa parent who is that easily controlled doesn’t deserve their children.
He had no problem standing by Ruby’s garbage behavior for years before Jody got involved.
He is not the victim here.
He’s pathetic.
Seriously, bless that neighbor. He was so gentle with him 😢
The neighbors were compassionate, Heroes! The gentleman made me weep with him! ❤❤❤
He showed true compassion.
When he saw the wounds while on the call with 911 and started crying 😭😭😭
The neighbour cried, one of the first responders cried in bodycam , maybe others did too but there was no doubt the cops, paramedics and the neighbours showed more kindness to the 2 kids in a day than those 2 abusers showed them in years
The 1st neighbour wasn’t home or just missed him ( not sure what part) and saw him and messaged Jodi. Imagine if he told R to sit and wait. R may have never be seen again :(
The second neighbour Thankyou 👏🏻
Please do not allow Ruby or Kevin to have custody of the youngest children.
I so agree, Kevin was all for this
These kids will carry what happened to them for the rest of their lives. 😢
The County Attorney Eric Clarke has said he thinks Ruby is truly sorry and he wants her to be reunited with her family if the children decide they want to see her. This is crazy. Abused children shouldn't be forced to decide in cases like this. They are so broken, Ruby and Jodi need to stay in prison at least 30 years. I think Eric Clarke has a crush on Ruby. He practically gushed over her plea speech saying it was "heartfelt".
@@marcime174 is eclark LDS or whatever too?
@@jessJBIRD1981 Yes. Very much so. Clarke is very involved with the LDS church
I disagree that Ruby’s apology was heartfelt. She’s aware of the power of “remorse.” It was a performance to gain favour. She lacks empathy.
Of course she lacks empathy, to do what she did to those children.
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Exactly
Ruby Franke is a Mother that doesn't Love 💔 her Children, 😫 She Lacks Empathy, She doesn't have Concious at all. She is a Sadistic Mother 😬 who Enjoys Torturing her children, Seeing her Children Suffering 😢. If Ruby Franke Cried in Court, She was Crying Only, for herself !! and she was Crying because she was Caught by the Police and she knew she was going to be a Prisoner in Jail for many Years. Ruby Franke was Crying in Court with Crocodile 🐊 Tears. She was only Crying for herself. As a mother Ruby Franke was not Interested in her children's Welfare. She had So much Fun Torturing her Children 😢 and being So Mean to them. Efrat
Ruby Franke was Crying 😢in Court just for herself, She Was Crying that she was Caught by the Police and she knew she was going to be in Prison for many Years. Ruby Franke has No Concious at all, she wasn't Crying for the Suffering of her Children 😢, she was Crying for herself. Efrat.
Ruby was horrible before Jodi. She is sadistic towards her children, punishing them by taking food away, making them sleep outside, setting her kids up with situations they would not be able to navigate, then punishing them. That is a sadist.
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Exactly. She is no better than Jodi. Ruby should not be allowed to blame her sick and twisted abuse on another.
And Kevin was involved and participated and was in full support of everything until…oopsie what he means is he was a victim too. 🤔 Hmmm he’s an adult. Don’t get me wrong I think he needs help and I hope he gets it. But he should NOT have kids. He admits he’s broken.
It sounds like someone with a mental illness, who might not think they are being 'sadistic'.
She was evil before Jodi, but Jodi enabled and encouraged it. Those two were made for each other.
How do you not see any of your children for a year ? Dad isn’t innocent in all of this
Nope. He's a horror.
When you say how do you not see any of your children for a year, many many dads don't see their kids. They are deadbeat dads, they don't care. This is just not the only case with Kevin.
He was brainwashed by Jodi and he wasn’t her first victim. I think he will be okay now that he is away from Jodi and Ruby.
For an educated, PhD professor, there's ZERO excuse for not seeing your kids for a year. I'm sorry, the brainwashed excuse doesn't hold for this. Damn, that Mormon Kool-Aid must be strong stuff!
He didn't care about those kids. He only cares about Ruby. The kids were just another job expected of him by the church and not made out of love (except for themselves). He was doing what Ruby wanted of him to please Ruby. The kids weren't even an afterthought for him. He was enjoying not have to deal with 4 kids but was not enjoying being away from his wife.
She kept a journal of what she did to those poor babies and still didn't realize how wrong it was! Thats scary😮
She knew.
She definitely knew what she was doing was wrong
She definitely knew what she was doing was wrong
and the courts didnt give the journals much thought...they just charged on the 3 months of abuse..that prosecutor is horrible. they could have got attempted murder when ruby said that they were going to put them in the arizona property and said "they will not go home" well, what would that mean? where would they go ruby?
@@jeremybilbrey1133 they created a copy of the Daybell situation seems like
The professionalism and sensitivity these cops showed to the girl still in the house is unmatched. He sat down with her and waited til she was ready to come out of the closet. So sad
She looked like a zombie... so I hope they find joy again, and not follow the patterns they had to live, and learn
He sat there for four hours. He showed her such kindness. He even fed her. She looked defeated utterly defeated. He treated her so well
@@bettylougreen6987 Her spirit was dying by humiliation, hurt, and deprive from the basic needs..caged in and locked.
Agree 🙏🏽😔
The Policemen and Policewoman in Utah are So Wonderful, Kind, Professional and Sensitive. They were Really Great and Wonderful 😃 💕🌷💐 Excellent Policemen 👏 and Policewoman. Thank You so much to them. Efrat
Kevin’s negligence should be considered when determining custody of the minor children. He ABANDONED them.
Exactly
not intentionally.... manipulated into staying away.
Sorry -- the brainwashing and manipulation excuse doesn't hold.
@@ameliacoburn4787why are you caping so hard for that scumbag? He didn't even ask how his kids were after learning they were hospitalized. He asked about Ruby! He doesn't care about those kids, only Ruby and himself. FFS he wanted to press charges on Sheri for B&E when it was the cops who did it, then wanted to press charges on her for taking stuff from the home. What was he so worried about on those electronic devices? Even when he got them back he was mad that he couldn't press charges.
Yes and I also believe he would have ruby back in a heart beat. He's obsessed with her. Look at his reaction when he was first told by the cops. 'I love my wife I want my wife back'
Ruby hasn't changed. That type of behavior didn't start with Jodi. Jodi just gave her a push to do it harder. She sounded like she changed but it's all a show. It will take more than a few months in jail for her to undo everything she has done and her beliefs
Well said 👏🏻
You are so right!
Made me sad her son believed she was apologetic, he has no clue how evil that woman is.
Agreed… she cares only for herself and a lighter sentence. Nothing re harms she done to her kids!
Dead right !
Ruby didn't apologize to her children. I didn't believe the speech, it sounded like it was written for her. I hope she is in at the very least 20 years.
Agree - she never seemed to grasp the horrible crime she committed. Just thanked a bunch of people.
It screamed narcissistic sociopath. Very similar to the "eloquent" speech Paul Ferguson made before being sentenced for torturing & starving his little autistic brother to death. He continues to believe his mother controlled it all and "made" him inflict the torture while she was at work. 21:21
I think Chad is still in more denial about his mother than he thinks. Sending healing his way
@@meowzers8937 I think he's in denial, too. I had abusive parents, and more than 20 years later, I still learn how f*d-up psychos they were. New memories surface every now and then. Every time I think now, I've grasped the whole extent of the fu*d-upness, there's still something more that totally baffles me. The human brain just protects them, as the brutal reality might be too harsh to bear. Those things need to be approached step by step with professional help. I hope all the kids get the help they need to heal from this horror.
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I love how Chad would not talk about his siblings just that all of them are in therapy to help them.
Hope it's better than the therapy they had Chad in originally. That being Jodi and he himself apparently had to pay her a crap load of money every month.
And that he even said his mother spoke genuinely. For how much he’s been through his maturity is profound
Chad doesn’t care about his siblings. He admitted to being mad at Shari for calling the police on their mom.
@@westpnt you obviously haven’t been manipulated by a parent your whole life or you would understand.
He is calling her ‘Ruby’ not Mom.
She’s is undeserving of that title
Yeah that was an important point those guys should have noticed. Declaring his autonomy is significant.
Speaks volumes.
He also calls Kevin, by his first name.
yet he thinks his mom's statement in court was sincere. He needs intense therapy to make that thought go away
Chad didn't say that Ruby should stay in jail for 18 years, he said that she should stay there until E. is 18 years old.
18 years sounds like poetic justice
Both parents and the other demon deserve life in prison without the possibility of parole in my opinion. The fathers just as guilty because he was a part of the abuse when they did their videos . Rotten low life’s aren’t they ?
@@pheonixrose2995 We shouldn't forget Pam either. I definitely feel like she was involved, being she is in connextions.
@@MyLifeAsRazinellshe keeps on getting away somehow, but Kevin mentioned her being very involved in the creation and running of the cult and her husband and her had kids at their house to serve out the punishments by cleaning it. She was 100% involved, probably in the worst of it, and somehow she is escaping justice
@@Limitedonathiosif she was involved in the abuse she will see her day
In a call with her sister Ruby talked about being remorseful and how showing remorse could affect her sentence. I think that whole speech at her sentencing was an early attempt to be able to serve the shortest possible sentence. I don't think she's actually remorseful. I think it's an act.
It definitely is, if you remember her first call ever from jail, that’s truly how she is and feels when she talks to (her now soon to be husband).
After that, I think her lawyer advised her to act and show remorse which then her other calls changed dramatically with her sister and again with her husband. 100% an act. I just hope she stays in jail until the kids are at least 18.
Well of course. Who wouldn't?? 😂
@@Grow_withbella "Definitely"??? How the heck do you know? A) Chad believed it was genuine and thinks there's hope for a relationship again someday in the future. B) Until a certain point Ruby was still believing everything Jodi said.... so of course her first phone call was still in denial.
Of course that long winded crap speech, was to manipulate her sentencing, everything she does is calculated. She should never be released. Not to be ever trusted. Her nasisiltic nature would want revenge.
@@ameliacoburn4787 if that’s what you believe then okay. And yes, I say definitely because this didn’t just start with Jodi. Ruby is a grown adult who should be accountable for what she’s done and not blame it all on Jodi. They are both guilty. You have never been in a situation where parent manipulate children into thinking what they are doing is wrong. It’s going to take a lot more from Ruby to change than just a few nights from jail. There was no therapist involved, nothing and all of a sudden miraculously she woke up from whatever world she was in and saw and believed what she did was wrong. Okay then 🤷🏽♀️
Her sister should be listened to. The redactions were due to being too graphic about the torture of the children, not to protect Ruby. She is a monster.
nobody should listen to this sisters. They are horrible people too.
Agree she is a monster…. Hope the prosecution will not be manipulated by her….she was a monster way before Judy entered in their life
@@martinastreisel514she already got a sweet deal from the prosecution. She is guilty. Judge gave a sentence range. And in crazy ol Utah, a parole board will decide how long she serves. So praying that those folks see this released evidence and give BOTH ladies full sentences.
Yes, and Bonnie goes on to say that Ruby doesn't need 'mercy', she needs to be in prison and stay there for a very long time!!! People have so many negative things to say about those sisters but I think they are fab. Loving, caring, passionate ladies with big hearts who have been utterly crushed by what Ruby has done 😭💔
More than likely the parole board that is set to decide the number of years these two monsters get, are more than likely MORMAN and the Mormon Church knew all about Jodi Hildebrand they sent people to her. They r a strange cult.
I urge people to watch the various documentaries about these things. Do NOT be fooled.
I'm appalled at the charges.
Child abuse? This isn't child abuse. This was AT LEAST child slavery, systematic torture and attempted murder of minors. They were STARVING them!
Why aren't people protesting at the court?!!
15 Years max? They should receive a MINIMUM of 25 years.
Beide Frauen sollten nicht mehr raus kommen ,wie kann man sowas Kinder antun ,mir wird übel...Pfui😢
💯agree
You are absolutely correct. Ruby Franke is evil as is her husband.
The evidence is really, really bad. It really was torture, that is not hyperbolic.
I think it's 15 years per count as max . She has 4 counts. So possibly 60 years.
I think Chad's response speaks volumes about his character. He comes off so nonchalant, even if he is hurting inside, and that is telling his mother that she may have controlled every aspect of his life, she may have abused him, brainwashed him, hurt him, etc. But now that he is grown and free from that, she's utterly irrelevant to him. He's who he is now because he is in control of his life, and she has no power over him even in memory. I do hope he's doing okay and that he seeks help if he needs it, but man, that is the biggest slap in the face to any abusive parent from their child. "You're irrelevant to me."
Very well said
In the video that he was streaming, he said he hopes to reconcile with her in the future. He’s still quite a bit under her thumb, even when she’s behind bars.
@@kremmiz1as an estranged daughter, takes a lot to realize that your parents won’t change and for your safety you have to stay away. I went back to try to get the relationship back a few times, the last time I even allowed her to manipulate me to stay in her house the last time I went to my hometown. That didn’t went well at all. I was in therapy and doing a lot of healing, but still as adults we need our parents. Realizing your parents never loved you in a healthy way could be really hard to process. Time and healing. I hate they have to do all that healing work now, because is not easy and nobody should have to go through that. Parents are supposed to be emotionally available for their children and love them.
@@lhr8833 Very well said. In my career, we see kids who constantly want to go back to their parents, though they have been horribly abused in different ways. in many cases, they accept their fate and then pass it on to their children. Regards to you for getting out of that mind frame.
@@kremmiz1As a child abuse survivor, that’s pretty normal. Every child wants a relationship with their parents…or at least wants their parents to love them. So any chance of that happening is hard to fathom, let alone let go of. It’s even more complicated when the abuse is mental or emotional. Even in adulthood it’s still hard for children to completely denounce and cut all ties to their abusive parents. To judge children of abusive parents for hoping for a relationship with their parents or trying to reconcile is inappropriate and so unnecessary. It’s not helpful and only serves to victimize them further. It may not be the best idea for the child to reconnect as an adult, but that should be their choice and something they learn and experience on their own. That’s not for anyone else to decide.
The way they had to sit with that little girl is animal rescue technique used for traumatized dogs. She had been that dehumanized.
It’s also just used with children (getting down to their level and giving them space to feel comfortable). She was definitely dehumanized, but this one of the few things that wasn’t a sign of that.
Animals aren't any less valuable!!!
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"Complaining to CPS for years".. i dont think most people understand how hard it is to get an indictment as a whistle-blower. The process isn't what one would imagine.
CPS should be sued in behalf of these children for not responding.
@@lyndiwills6354 CPS knocked on the door but didn't have evidence for a warrant. They simply didn't answer the door.
True it's a long process but now everyone is suddenly involved obviously they didn't open the door cuz they had what to hide and the police and CPS can't exactly burst in especially without a warrant
CPS was complicit!
Then they take peoples children that are happy and healthy for the most bazaar reasons
Abusive mothers are sorry once they are caught by authorities or their peers, they don't give two craps when their kids express sadness of their cruelty because it's all about power. Once they lose the power they are sorry because they are no longer getting that high from their abusive actions. I would never trust her again if I were her kids. She's clearly a narcissist or something where she is truly incapable of caring about others feelings. They only act caring to manipulate people.
Yeah, that's what Chad was missing she was genuinely upset she got caught, that's it. Not really upset for hurting her children.
Yes spot on, i wouldn't be surprised the narsisist Ruby is getting strength planning how she will invoke revenge. She should never see the light of day.
Well said!
I agree that abusers get a high from abusing.
She knew it was wrong because she mentioned it in her journal and was very secretive about it. Of course she doesn't feel bad. She has shark eyes. I'll never forget how happy she looked when she said she hoped no one her KINDERGARTENER who forgot her lunch
Genuine remorse? Ruby thanked everyone but never apologised to the children in that long, weird speech
What about Jodie’s niece, anyone going to interview her parents? Why did they leave that beautiful girl with a monster
I heard in an interview with Jessie that her parents still have disowned her and believe in Jodi.
Omg!!!!! Evil discussing people,
Because they’re hateful people who haven’t changed.
I know right
Don't excuse Kevin's own role in the abuse of his children. It's documented on the UA-cam videos that he was fully complicit in the abuse of his children with his wife and he DID have contact with ruby throughout the year of separation. What kind of father has no contact with his children for a year?? He's just as responsible for his inaction....doing nothing is doing something.
I don't believe the Oscar speech for 1 second. People don't charge overnight.
How does Kevin have a right to sue anyone? Those kids are not in his care. Only he’s responsible for his house payment. Downsize!! He’s not raising those kids and hopefully never will.
I’m sure u was 1 of the ones that thought crystal(harmony Montgomery mom) should sue. She didn’t have her kid either. At the end of the day, ppl run behind money. His kids, he’s entitled
Its to pay for their therapy
Das Geld sollte nur den Kindern zustehn ,für keinen anderen ,alles belegen lassen das es auch die Kinder bekommen..
He is obliged by the state of Utah to pay for the therapy and other needs of his minor children in state custody. Also he is suing because of his own loss of quality of life and income.
@@e.k.4508 the state of utah didn't tell him to abandon his kids to their psychopathic mother and her psychopathic friend. He did that. He's responsible.
Kevin certainly didn’t wear the pants in that family. What kind of man lets his wife’s friend kick him out of his own home?
You mean his business partner. Jodi was his business partner.💰
@@justkiddin84No, he was her client. She then became his client while slowly taking over under the guise of needing refuge from her demons.
She was their therapist running a brainwashing cult, not a friend.
@@justkiddin84 The business partner who slept in bed with Ruby in their own house while Kevin lived there.
The lesbian who came in and TOOK OVER. It’s incredible
Really hoping that these kids are being treated with love and care in social services now and that they are not being further abused like what happened to the Turpin kids
The Turpin children had no follow up, and were placed in a place, known as abusive, before they took them in.
So many foster homes are also horrendous. I don't live in the US but have worked in mental health for years and people have NO idea. I pray that these children get the best treatment ❤
My thoughts exactly. Which is scarier, the gov't having these children or the neglectful, abandoning father? Poor children.
Kevin belongs in prison, he was all in on the show and on the jail house call with Ruby
Kevin didn’t do anything
@@Simplysilla27 exactly ...he neglected the children knowing they were being abused. Have fun defending that.
Kevin belongs in prison with TRUMP!!!😂
@@Simplysilla27 except he did.
Correct
Coping with trauma manifests differently in everyone. Glad Chad is trying his best to understand, accept and find a path forward while also protecting his sisters.
Chad l9ving with Kevin is disheartening. His dad left him to be abused. Chad may not have a choice in where to live., but that is unfortunate. I do not believe Kevin should be trusted.
The Dad also allowed Ruby’s abuse before Jodi came in the picture.
Nope, Chad and Kevin moved out together. Actually, were forced out together, by Jodi via Ruby 💔💔
@@bkang They did not leave at the same time.
@@beareeves4923 Chad did say on one of his livestreams that him and his dad moved out on the same day. It's unclear if they moved in together at the time or if they left on the same day separately.
Also the most recent update is Chad has moved out and is not longer living with Kevin. Chad moved in together with some friends
All of those sisters seem crazy to me
You know how children who have been abused are better able to express themselves more freely coloring in a coloring book. Playing that internet game is Chad's coloring book.
Have you heard him speak, not on a gaming device?
@stacy6994 no Stacy I haven't.
It messes me up hearing the kid ask timidly for help and that neighbor choke during the 911 call.
And by all logic so it should if you're a Humane Being as well as a Human Being.
I don’t know why no one has spoken about this but Ruby and Kevin sent him to WILDERNESS CAMP at the behest of Jodi. It was horrible! It’s such a relevant piece of the abuse, and one that also points out Kevin’s involvement
The darkly humorous thing about that was that Chad wasn't even bothered by it other than the food being bad. It was like a vacation compared to what his normal home life was.
My bf was sent to one of those and it still messed with his head and heart everyday still ten years later (luckily the one he went to got shut down finally)
Those camps are horrible
Chad didn't mind the camp at all! He liked most of it, except for the food. It's so important to listen to what the people involved think. It's too easy to think of us, rando's, to be able to judge about every aspect of their lives.
@@e.k.4508 it says a lot more about his home life that he like it -
The journals weren't everything "they" did to the children.....it was everything RUBY did to the children!!!!
They deserve a MINIMUM of 30 years !!
Has the man that called 911 been awarded.I sincerely believe he needs to be.He saved these kids lives!
🙏💌🌅He reminds me, of sweet little JJ's Grandfather... An Angel on earth🙏🙏🙏
Keep them in prison until the kids are adults
They are never getting out!
@@MsTinkerbelle87 I pray that is true.
Kevin didn't give a crap about those kids until he got the call from RUBY that she was in trouble.
He still didn't care. He just wanted them home so Ruby would be happy
Keep in mind that for fundamentalist parents like this controlling your children and your public image is a top priority. He didn't care that he hadn't seen his kids in a year or whatever, but he cared when suddenly his public image and ability to have control over his kids was on the line.
Even after his first interview he was more concerned for his monster wife and said he wished he had been a better husband not a mention of been a better father
I can't even imagine what's in the redacted portions of those journals 😢
Probably statements about the people who are not involved in the lawsuit. For instance about the two middle girls
Chad and Shari (and the other children) deserve to be in control of how and when they speak. Especially after years of dealing with their mom and dad’s strict parenting.
Let him talk, him talking is not hurting anyone. It’s better to talk than keep it all in. At his own pace, without anyone manipulating his words
Kevin's atty's statement sounds as though Kevin is working to get the family back together, he loves his wife, he only sought divorce on advice to show the legal system that he cares for his children. HE WOULD JUMP BACK IN WITH RUBY IN A HOT SECOND!
I'm concerned there are a lot of people who are believing Kevin's attorney, Kestler.
true but he would've had to fight off the Hildebeast - a legitimate factor, she's built like a linebacker
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Bonnie was the first to pull away her relationship with her family including children telling Ruby she could not send her children to her home anymore due to things Bonnie’s children had told her that Ruby had done to them and their cousins
I'm skeptical of the sisters...
The entire family is complicit
I don’t care of any of them they are just money grabbers and in it for the views
Me too. Cautious of them from any angle they are coming from whether it appear defensive or vulnerable or anything in-between, i dont trust their motives
family vlogging is selling privacy, and drama sells.
yep. the sisters are fond of granting their viewers endless drama on how this scandal has affected THEM.
Kevin SHOULD NEVER have those kids , he was a crappy father and allowed Ruby to do terrible things to those kiddoes and he never thought anything of it . I think he's thinking purely of the money , he stepped away from those kids when they needed him the most , terrible parents , both of them .
I'd like to see the children file a lawsuit against Kevin for his abandonment of them. He is a piece of work!
Kevin was part of the abuse before he left for the year. Please do not allow Kevin to have custody of those kids. He is as cruel as Ruby
Man….I lost my first child (Jacob) from SIDS when he was five and a half months old. I still cry for him. This story is so discustiing
Chad has been manipulated by Ruby all through his childhood. He should not be judged for not yet having total insight.
The whole family has problems and no idea on parenting rights and wrongs. They should have all intervened.
YES, not intervened is so so bad. I don’t know how they sleep at night
I believe Chad has a lot of unpacking to do because he still doesn’t see things like living on a bean bag and taking his bathroom door off at the age of 16 was ok, but IT WAS NOT OKAY, ITS ABUSE!
Kevin should NOT receive custody of the children. *NO!*
Correct
My 💔 every time i see this footage - I was wondering if you could do me two favors.. 😢😢😭
Then he changes it to just one
I know, it’s so sad to hear his little voice asking or favors. 😢
I am shocked that Pam hasn't been charged with anything
Chad still doesn't understand how abusive this was!
He's still brainwashed.
Cognitive Dissonance
Probably. It will change when he gets older. Also: we the public are brainwashed by all the terrible news and hearing only the terrible news. It sure wasn't all bad! There were loving times for sure in their family. Especially for the two eldest children.
Well the worst of it didn't happen to him, it happened to the two youngest.
@@saratemp790 Exactly. And to know what happened to them hurt him to his stomach. I hope the family bond between the siblings is strong and will help them over time to get all in a better place
He is not okay! He’s using the video game to dissociate and disconnect from the emotions. He seems to be in a lot of denial especially when speaking about his Mom’s sincerity of her speech in court.
I agree. He is definitely not okay. This is far from anything a child could just quickly & easily move past. It surprises me that the channel 2 guy does not understand why the kid doesn’t want to do a face to face interview. He can’t because, like you said, he needs to hide and do things on his own terms. Poor kid.
He is still brainwashed. That whole family needs intensive therapy.
Chad also said he didn't have a problem with the wilderness camp or having his bed taken away for six months for his prank. That doesn't surprise me. He was used to it, so it wasn't abusive, it was normal to him.
It's like that with lots of kids.
It's must be difficult to report abuse or neglect to police and CPS officials in the same cult.
They should not have allowed them to plead. They deserve a maximum sentence.
Taking this to court and making kids testify would have been torturous
‼️One of her sisters posted a “Blanket Training” for babies. Horrible‼️
Yes, thats Bonnie.
The mother and father were abusive before Jodi.
Both parents need to be in jail.
Kevin cries for his wife
The father has NO concern about his kids.
That lady is going to say anything you want to hear just to get out of jail free.
Ruby was NOT sentenced to jail.
Ruby was NOT sentenced to jail.
Yes, Ruby is GENUINELY sorry that she got caught!
Ruby was already cruel and controlling with her children. Jodi gave her permission to include Kevin in the punishments so they could clean out the bank accounts.
These videos are STILL breaking my heart and giving me tears. It REALLY breaks me to think you could be capable of doing this to children, no less your own. These poor poor children. No justice could ever prevail
In what universe could you hurt your children to that extent and not know it was wrong . Baffling
Ruby was already abusing her children before she ever met Jodi. People should not be fooled by her acting.
If they find evidence of abuse on the middle girls could they be charged and then have move years to server after this sentence?
Too late now
Great question.
@@justkiddin84why is it too late?
@justkiddin84
No it's not..but the investigation the paper work and most of all the kids to speak up..
Chad stated that he was shocked the third lady of connections (forgetting her name.. possibly pam?). Oh, i meant the PRESIDENT OF CONNECTIONS Pam- wasn't being investigated further and he thinks more should be done. Those middle girls 10000% were abused. I'm not sure if any more charges would be filed on Jodie considering they aren't her kids. And Ruby might argue that she had no idea the abuse took place because she wasn't in that home. I really hope all 3 get more charges honestly.
I’m shocked no one’s offered Chad a safer home!
The affect in the voice of her sisters is a carbon copy of Ruby
Well sure, I sound like my sister too 🤷🏻♀️
Bonnie’s #1 priority is Bonnie. Anyone who blanket trains should be investigated.
Blanket training used to be very standard in many religious households - not just LDS, but evangelical Christianity as well. To be clear - I think it's awful and would never, ever use it myself! But when you grow up in a culture where it's normal to blanket train (and let's not forget, there are definitely differing levels of 'blanket training' too) you're just following what you've been taught by other women that you look up to, and also, popular books on parenting which circulate these religious groups. Bonnie is a loving, passionate, fiercely protective Mama bear 💖 MANY of the women I speak to who blanket trained their first child hated doing so, and never did it again. Every single one regrets it. We shouldn't judge Bonnie for what she did as an extremely young Mum, following the advice of her older wider Mama mentors; are you the same now as you were 15-16 years ago? I know I'm not! All three sisters are great Mums. They don't need to be investigated 👎🏻 It's not fair to tar them all with the Ruby brush 💔
My understanding of blanket training is similar to a binkie. Self soothing.
Blanket discipline is where you teach fear with the blanket.
Yes blanket training is disgusting. Parents should slap themselves not their babies!
Ironic that Bonny is commenting on Ruby's cruelty to children when she blanket trains her own children, which to me is cruel in itself, controlling and denying the children their natural curiosity and need to explore, and which I believe causes psychological damage in its own way. Hypocrisy
didn't the Duggar do that too?
@@cheeling794 they sure did
I don't understand why the 3rd women in connections hasn't been investigated for having the children doing "housework"
She's in hiding apparently
Bonnie will never stop vlogging she has to make the money in order to pay for that house!!
And that’s what is really important.🤮
I am so sick of this family go away and stop doing UA-cam all of them .
The vacations too
Bonnie is so obnoxious. She made a living by exploiting her kids and sees nothing wrong with that. She did blanket training. Anyone who does that to babies is not right in the head.
Her fake tears in her video is annoying too. And she used to listen to connections. Shes so fake
What makes me think kevin knew what was happening is that when he talked to his wife after being arrested he never sounded outraged at his wife or even asked her if it was true that she hurt their kids?? Also Ruby is not fixed or had a change of heart bc she told Kevin that the injuries were grossly exaggerated to the kids. She simply smarter than Jody.. she is hoping to get less time..
Did they arrest Pam for forced child labor? First I've heard of Pam!
Unfortunately not. I think everyone in connexions should be looked into
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@@Lemonade_Stand_ Amen!
These sisters should be investigated as well
Especially Bonnie and Joel.
I want to say, as a journalist you shouldn't be condescending if someone doesn't want to talk to a reporter.
I think that family is using Jody too much as an escape excuse away from their family member (mom).
I saw some of those videos they made. Ruby is ruthless. That family is in denial.
Chad said he thinks Ruby should remain in prison until E is 18 years old.
She’s a master manipulator. Y’all are wrong.
If Ruby truly ment that speech in Court ,she wouldn't have been so defiant at the Police station ,she would have been shocked ,sorry and willing to talk from the very start !It was all an act which she was told to do by others including her lawyer to make her look better and gain sympathy,well she ain't got mine ,she doesn't fool me,she is a bloody Monster !😠
All of these adults are self centered and self serving. No one talks about the children, only themselves. Julie was present in the journals at the torture of the Franke children. Sick.
One of the middle girls is called Julie. Both of the middle girls were under Ruby & Jodi's control. So when Ruby writes about Julie she's referring to one of her daughters.
@@Aniram789 no. Julie is also her sister. When it's just a J it's the child. Julie was written out and it was very obvious it was another adult. Go read the journal entries online. I did and it's very obvious because LE tried to keep the children anonymous. Yes there is a child, Julie but that's not who I am referring to.
Bonnie needs to go away
He didn't seem surprised when he found out, at least not much. There is no restoring them back to their former lives....this changes them permanently.
He never asked how the kids we're doing in the hospital, the only person he cared about was Ruby
The son probably wants to air his emotions and feelings on his own terms rather than be provoked by some media folks. He is controlling his setting.
The sisters were "this close to saying something" but didnt, then say they did everything they could? No.
The only one that was sounding the alarm was Shari (the oldest daughter) and no one believed her.
Ruby side of the family is no better then Ruby, they exploit their children as well and more worried about defending how THEY LOOK and how THEY ARE AFFECTED on UA-cam instead of being worried about ab the kids. They defended Ruby ab her parenting style up until this news came out. It’s all about them . Ruby was their cash cow so now that she’s gone they turned on her. Their fake. Their disgusting.
a lot of mormon UA-camrs use there kids to make money if your gonna shame the griffiths siblings then talk about the rest for the lds youtubers…
Ruby's sisters are all I, ME, blah blah blah. Barely any mention of Russell and Eve if at all. Ruby"s parents didn't even return from their mission trip when they heard what happened to their grandchildren. The entire family is narcissistic.
The younger sister used IBLF ‘blanket training’ on her babies.😡
I hope the sisters are being monitored
@@bambiber4722 well now they’ve jumped on the bandwagon wagon saying how bad she is who knows. Such awful people
The whole family seem unhinged. The sisters are especially incredibly seedy.
Bonnie and Ruby are the older two girls. They raised kids together and grew up together. Julie and Ellie are the younger sisters with younger kids. I think Bonnie just naturally feels closer to Ruby’s kids because they were having sleepovers at her house their whole lives. Their kids were best friends (until Ruby met Jodi and cut them off).
You are being bambozaled aboutt her sincerity. She said on the phone with someone "they" look for sincerity and regret. She's also had years of practice in front of cameras and composing believable content.
Wake up. Ehe was mean spirited before Jody. Connextions and Jody gave her permission,
Bonnie puts videos out about it because it generates traffic towards her channel, and that brings in the money.
Yep, she just had a giant home custom built hat she needs to pay off.
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Exactly. And the people that follow her are just as bad. Wacko
The creepiest part is when Ruby thanked everyone. How ridiculous! Kevin is a 100% neglectful dad. I just wish the kids wouldn't return to their dad.
Agreed. He's a useless pathetic wimp.
I never hear Ruby ever ask how her children are doing. Never when she was arrested or in any of her phone calls did she show any concern for them. She was still only concerned about Jodi and herself.
They're clearly both insane and should never be released.
Bonnie Hoellein: “I want to be very clear I do not support Ruby. She doesn't need mercy. She doesn't need justice. She needs a jail cell.” Why didn't you guys mention this?
He cannot get custody of those children. They have suffered enough
Ruby’s sister was teaching an abusive way of disciplining a baby with the blanket therapy. So I do find the whole family likes to use punishment as a tool to control their children.
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Blanket training (or whatever it's called) is very harsh and horrible method originally.
However, I remember watching Bonnie's video about this years ago, and if I remember correctly her way of doing it didn't involve any punishments or trauma. Kids were simply encouraged to play on blankets for short periods of time.
That being said, it has been years since I watched this, so if my memory is betraying me, please let me know.
Kevin is almost as bad as Ruby and should be kept away from these innocent children!
Did she really think just because she pleaded guilty the evidence wouldn’t get out??
Yup!
It had nothing to do with that. It was not having the victims have to sit on the stand and testify.
@@stacy6994 she didn’t care about putting her kids through that - it actually might’ve been cathartic for them to get that out- it’s all about protecting her own image and getting a lesser sentence by not making it a public spectacle