FX30 vs XH2s vs R7 vs GH6 (Clarifying Their Niche)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2022
- How to decide on the best aps-c camera in this price range for hybrid photography and video shooters? Sony FX30 is almost a mini FX3 and A7S III, matching their specs but with huge crops. Fuji XH2s might be a bit more cinematic, less crops and better color science. Panasonic GH6 better stabilization, surprisingly bigger sensor in slow motion, but terrible autofocus. Canon R7 with the worst specs of the bunch, but cheap, light with great stabilization, colours and autofocus. Here's what I would do as a youtuber, vlogger doing vlogging and vlogs, youtube studio videos, and wildlife slow motion videography.
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@Camera Conspiracies check out Teppa's video for wildlife he's got the bears
The only channel that didn’t get fx30 early, sony is too afraid 😂
Only get your camera reviews from people who didn't sign NDA's
It really is crazy out there with all of these imperfect choices for us to wait through. Thanks for doing gods work by avoiding the stat sheet mumbo-jumbo regurgitated by most other camera review UA-camrs.
Do you have a strong opinion on which telephoto zoom is better between Fuji and Sony? I rented the Fuji 150-600 on the XH2S and was impressed but I’m sure the Sony is great also.
-Longtime Fuji user quite intrigued by the Sony upgrade path.
I find myself agreeing more and more with you. Should I worry?
Consider speaking with a therapist?
No he is the reviewer that includes all the bits other leave out. That's why he'll never get a trip to England, Rome or Japan to see the top secret cameras.
The reason it’s a 26mp sensor is that it’s going to be the new sensor for upcoming Sony APS-C cameras. They didn’t care enough, about this fx30 concept, to develop an actual video centric sensor.
I was salivating about the FX30 for a few minutes, but I thought the same thing... they'll probably make a follow-up to the A6600 soon and I hope it will have 10 bit video and retain the viewfinder... that would be much more interesting for me as I want to do more hybrid shooting photos and video...
Nail on the head
@@TheCruisinCrew Typical sony!! I sold my a6600 because I feel like Sony might release a follow up.
@@TheCruisinCrew it probably wouldn’t have the luts and pro res features tho.
@@avishekghatak2176 As long as it had 10 bit, it would be much better than before and photo shooting would also benefit. I think some announcement will probably drop soon...
Crop is useful for extending your lens for wildlife... Makes your 600 into a 1458mm.. Buy an external EVF and throw it on with the 1/4 mounts on the body.
FYI: Rumors of ZVE20 with the same sensor.
Interesting! I have the 15f1.4G (adapted to my Z's,) and it could be very nice on that FX30. Put a collapsible LCD hood on it, and it is that much more usable. It would be interesting to compare the FX30 to the Z30. MAKE IT SO, and don't forget the boardroom battle.
Hi Kasey, I discovered your channel about month ago and back watch a lot of episodes. Big fan. X-H2S is about to receive a firmware update. Hopefully they listened to you!
Yes i was thinking about the same compariaion for crop sensor video yesterday when fx30 was released. Xh2s comes in my first choice but how much its better for that extra money. Lets decide after this video 👍
The X-H2s is a true hybrid tho, fx30 is literally only for video, thus the higher Fuji price :)
I was waiting for this
It is an entry Cine Camera or marketed that way anyways, so yeah...no view finder is common. The expectation is, it will go on a Gimbal with a ring frame where a bright monitor will be attached. Wildlife photographers often set up in a blind, so yeah a monitor would again be used. The hiking / wildlife camera is a different niche.
And yeah...I agree with Mr. Stern on Sony's Color Science. I am hoping that it is improved.
White balance is a nice olive tone today.
If the 4k 120p crop is 2.43x doesn't that bring in the 70-200 mm F2.8 lens into play as your birding lens as this also takes teleconverters, and the 135mm F1.8 becomes an interesting low light option.
Definitely! Bonus 🔥
I see it as a good upgrade from the zve10. Great review thanks.
Im new to your channel KC and have been watching quite a few of your vids, very fun and extremely informative. Im also a big fam of your mouse pad and 8 inches/mile square but for the love of god can you link me the lav mic you use in the center of your chest with the deadcat on it
Check my amazon shop for gear I use.
Why is there no Pentax or Nikon in your comparison? Always entertaining! The lack of a viewfinder on the Sony FX30 is unexceptable!
Yeah it going to be impossible to use in the Southern Hemisphere with our strong sunlight !
Two cameras that can't autofocus in video and one that can , no brainer. Fx30 is going to be a runaway success and out of stock forever.
THANK U
In cinematic recording autofocus isn't used, so not that relevant to the intense users and basic users will tend to go to simpler models
@@ALIENdrifter66 yes that is what Panasonic keep telling themselves too while Sony and Canon wipe their sales out. The trouble is the Cinematic market has plenty of real cinematic cameras to choose from. Black magic, Sony , Canon and even the Red Komodo for a bit more money. This isn't 2012 and Panasonic need to understand their competition isn't putting in great autofocus just for no reason. Professionals use autofocus too when it works. IMO
I only wish the canon 1 dc would make a new compact body with the same ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL picture in both stills and videos…cinematic straight out of camera
Love the FX30 but should have had 12mp 3:2 ratio open gate sensor. Alternatively 10mp 16:9 open gate sensor. Would have been incredible.
12MB pixels aps-c sensor is shittier than a 12mp full-frame bigger pixels sensor.
For various reasons.
About stabilization, you don't get it, it has never been a mount size limitation but an image circle limitation. The sensor cannot move much because otherwise it would either go beyond the image circle or enter an area where the image looks really bad. APS-C lenses are mostly designed to project a small image circle, that's why the sensor is not allowed to move too much even though it could.
Great point, the Fx30 as a 12 mega pixel would be better. Maybe. Idk anything, but that made sense to me.
12MB aps-c sensor is shittier than a full-frame 12mb pixels sensor.
First of all, cause in order to have clarity on such smaller lenses, you need higher resolution.
Otherwise, you can go buy a 2010 camera. My opinion. But scientifically unproven;)
So I guess they went with the “more resolution” path.
Why does a m4/3rd 24-26 megapixel sensor look the same as bigger sensors, even when filming in 6k and Leica super sharp lenses?
Cause physics is physics.
Your thought was also mine, when I heard that it is a 26mp sensor.
It was almost a deal breaker and disappointment.
But, physics is physics.
On the full frame and way bigger glass you do have more flexibility when it comes to megapixels.
Think also that a 40mp sensor in aps-c format, like the Fujifilm, doesn’t actually mean crispier/sharper footage, when filmed in same resolution (4k). Oversampled from 6k or not.
The smaller lenses or the glass itself can not compensate, at the moment.
That is a full frame would be still sharper sometimes, with a mediocre glass even and 24-26mp than the 40mp aps-c.
MY POINT: the image might have been shittier, if they would have made a 12mp aps-c sensor, to be a smaller “copy” of the FX3 / A7S III.
AND THEN we would have hated the image quality, instead of hating the poor lowlight and rolling shutter performance.
Either way, aps-c users will always be haters, haha.
Myself included.
Man this is the only channel where the current footage looks far worse than its earlier days! Nice Jaundice filter!
I'm saving money for FX30. It's the cinema camera I've always wanted.
The 120 fps mode uses a 12 mp crop. No reason to think they could go faster if that were the sensor resolution.
I’m torn. If I go with a GH6 I keep all my Leica glass from my g9 but I trade off lens selection like anamorphic and macro for stills. With APSC I get more toneh but less stabilization than Panasonic but better AF.
Switch to Sony. Coming from a GH5 user, I bought a A7S3 and never looked back. Sony has a great eco-system. Once you invest in Sony glass you’ll be pretty set for the future.
I love how skeptical your videos are, so easy to get led astray with youtube videos saying every camera is amazing
I feel so weird about this release, but I kind of want it so I can jump into the third party E mount lenses and try new focal lengths, with autofocus. I'm intrigued, but I think I'd be better off saving for the A7IV.
Then again, I love APS-C, still use my little Samsung NX3000 all the time. I feel like I could get great usage out of the FX30 without having to carry around the S5 and a bigass cine lens but get around equal quality of video.
You say that cause you come from the NX3000.
Me? I will upgrade from a6300.
Sigma lenses in the pack.
It will be unbeatable.
I don’t want to buy 1200-2000 Euros full-frame lenses for barely the same sh/t.
UA-cam / Instagram viewers will not find the videos too too different.
We live in a world where 90% (proven stats) of your views are from “devices” - only 10% watch on normal screens.
So…?
Can’t be a filmmaker with a “Super 35mm” camera?
Who say’s that “not”, is an ignorant and arrogant prick.
Most films we know and cherish were shot on way smaller formats than the holy and cherished 35.
The great Toneh himself graciously replied to a comment/question I put under his FX30 video, in which he said he would use the GH6 for ‘everything’ they do for YT if the AF were better (as good as Sony).
I asked what the FX30 lacked vs the GH6. He replied ‘Stabilisation’. [Edit: he actually said ‘Stabilization’. I took the liberty to translate it into UK / Australian / NZ English.]
Who is the great Toneh 🤣🤣🤣
@@gigihanmandarin clearly you need to focus harder!
@@Democratiser I am a Pennyboi and I have trouble focusing.
@@gigihanmandarin Ah yes, the innovators of the unique pulsing Toneh.
I passed over this in my feed because of that thumbnail. I didn't realize it was your video.
Do not consider cost, so Fuji 1st, Lumix 2nd, Sony, trying to compete, 3rd and, what was the other one?? Cheers!
The FX30 4k120p equiv. crop is actually 1.5x (sony aps-c) * 1.52 (4k120p crop) = 2.28
Actually the only annoying thing on the fx30 besides no EVF is that it has no mechanical shutter and is limited af for photography (still trying to understand what exactly). If not for this photo side, it would be the perfect APS-C hybrid camera (they could solve this on a aps-c A7x model), the alleged price makes it a winner.
And the 26mp oversampled actually adds a lot of great detail, and still oversamples at 4k60p unlike the R7 that still lineskips like a children's camera.
I bet a hybrid version of this sensor is coming in a couple of months!
I've heard many different quotes for the 4k 120p crop from 1.52 to 1.62 and everything in between. No one wants to agree so I went with DPReview.
@@cameraconspiracies ohh I see... but I actually took this number from Sony's uk website
@@perzeon Gerald says it's closer to 1.55. Either way, point stands in that it's a smaller sensor in 4k 120p than GH6 and XH2s.
4:04 I'd be happy to trade half of those megapixels for better rolling shutter, better lowlight, less 4k120p crop, and possibly a mechanical shutter.
8 mp is what we should have got for low light
@@I.am.Bananaman 12~14 MP and same recording specs as FX3 would be ideal.
@@frankfeng2701 12 mp would be much better than 26 mp. as an outdoors kinda person (rock climbing, cycling, running) having performance in "blue hour" is important.
@@I.am.Bananaman Only if FX30 and FX3 could switch MP count. But here strikes again the Sony cripple hammer.
FX3 actually has 48MP, not 12 - it’s a quad Bayer sensor similar to what’s in new IPhone Pros
Which would you pick for best bang for buck 60/40 bird/wildlife video/stills?
Nikon Z6+200-500mm
Sony A7 III+200-600mm
Fuji X-H2S+100-400mm
Canon R6+Tamron 150-600mm G2 (because budget)
Abit off topic but isnt there a new sony zv2 coming soon?
up to now ,in china:
GH6 12000 RMB (3 BATTERY+1CARD)
FX30 14000 RMB
X-H2S 16700 RMB (2 BATTERY)
OM-1 15000 RMB (1 CARD)
🙂
For wild life, 2.43x crop 120fps suits you more than 2x, you're complaining just to complain. However for manual focusing you really need a viewfinder, although focus mapping is excellent and it could also work well. And the price $1800 is hard to beat.
Fiji X-T3 is much better as it has faster sensor readout, cheap, has EVF and better controls.
@@SuperSuperka OK fanboy and where is it's 4k 120p?
@@shahabh2108 120 fps seems to be the only reason to buy FX30, but with 1.7X additional crop - no reason again 😂😂
@@SuperSuperka XLR input? Breathing compensation? Autofocus? Cine features? More lenses?
@@lionellow105 Cine features - check,
More lenses - check,
Autofocus - Check, though SOnys better
XLR, Breathing - not a reason to choose
Do any pro cinema cameras have a viewfinder? My understanding is that's an add-on in that environment.
Black magic have 😂
If I'm going to just shoot a video, FX30 over GH6 for me because its cheaper body. Film wise is GH6 for just manual focus.
They should have made an A7S30 with an EVF instead of the FX30 with no EVF. I think they would have sold more cameras. Or at least give you an option to add one like the Sigma FP does. I rather have an add on EVF than the recording handle. As far as ibis, I agree with you. They have enough room to move that sensor around, but I think camera manufacturers figure that most people are going to end up getting a gimbal or use a tripod.
No
Fx3 is basically a7s3 there's no need to create another segment just becuz of evf when cinema cameras are all rig with monitors
@@MonicaHolly143 thank you Monica. An a7s30 would be largely irrelevant. The cinema cams did away with EVF because most will use external monitors. You want a baby a7siii, get an a7IV. You lose out on 4k120 but you get basically everything else.
In regards to the ibis comment, an apsc sensor has more room to move, which means it needs stronger stabilization to stay in place vs a FF sensor that’s large enough to not move much. Not sure where all the “it’s apsc, so they have should have better stability” comments are coming from. SMH 🤦♂️
Nope, I don't think that more area for moving the sensor is good enough for stabe. The active stab is depended on processing and readout speeds more. I agree with the point of evf though.
Yeap, first question from filmaker Johnie Behiri (from CineD - cinema5D) in his interview with Sony guy - where is my EVF? Sometimes, rather often for me too - I need it.
I can't catch your point...
FX30 vs XH2s which is better for Video ? + 4k 120p
Thank you
FX30 is basically vlogger's dream come true. Light. Awesome AF. 11mm f1.8. Stabe.
A7c is same size/weight and has EVF. And can be cropped for APS-C for video 😁😁
@@SuperSuperka worse stabilization worse color science worse rolling shutter worse price worse lens price.
U dont need full frame for vlogging everyone knows that
@@MonicaHolly143 colour science: film in HLG 3, learn basic colour grade. Stabilisation: gimbal. Rolling shutter is a problem: don't film sports. a 2nd hand a7c is currently $1000 less than the expected price of the fx30 AUD release. That $1000 will get you a good gimbal & Zeiss 55mm lens, and better low light performance at iso 12800 despite the 8 bit codec.
You crack me up 😆 man, but you speaking the truth ✊🏼
New XH2S firmware has some AF updates.
The FX3/30 are rumored to have 18% grey paint.🤪
4K video is only 8MP. if you want efficient use of the sensor you need to use a small area of the sensor, or the processor will have to downscale in real time, which is why so many cameras get hot. Can't imagine any of the hybrid manufacturers making a dedicated video sensor in this price bracket.
Hey Casey, did Sony borrow the Canon cripple hammer when they put a 26 mp sensor in the body of the FX30? Wouldn't the APS-C FF equivalent of 12 mp be 8 mp? the 2 features the FX3 has is a fan (I live in Australia, heat is a problem) & superb low light capabilities with dual native iso 12800. the FX30 native iso at 2500 is bullshit!
I'm thinking a 2nd hand a7c is the better choice
That's not how math works. APSC is 40% the surface area of FF. The 26mp is a APSC cut of the 2019 A7r4 sensor. Just use 2.32 as a ratio to divide or multiply accordingly.
To make a low mp version, they should have just cropped the new a7iv sensor which works out to roughly 13MP.
@@professionalpotato4764 for low light I want the APS-C version of the FX3 sensor not a7iv
@@I.am.Bananaman And that would only be capable of 1080p. It's not gonna sell in 2022. I've already explained the math to you. There won't be enough pixels.
@@I.am.Bananaman Besides you do know the fx3 has a native 50mp sensor that's pixel binning for extra dynamic range right. It does a 2x2 binning down to 12mp. You can get better results by downsampling. All 6k full frame sensors hold far more detail than the a7s3 below 12800 iso. And if you're exclusively shooting 12800, maybe you need more lights?
I think I will go for fx30
I guess the FX30 is to the next gen Sony APS-C line what the ZV-E10 was for the previous one.
Either way, I still think that the X-H2S is the best hybrid camera in the round-up here. Like the FX30 looks dope, but no EVF? No real photographic capabilities? Meh. Good for FX3 users that want a baclup but don't have the scratch for a second FX3 though
What about a6xxx users, who would probably be ecstatic with its video functionalities when their photo needs are covered by their existing cameras.
@@kapilesh14 that's a pretty niche usecase
FX30 is not a stripped FX3 - it actually seems more like a “ZV-E10 Pro”
It’s Sony’s new sensor and they plan on using it all their new crop sensor cameras. I’ve placed my pre-order. It’s finally a camera under $2k that supports timecode. For footage up to 4k/60p the Sony will blow everything else away. This FX30 is going to sell very well.
I agree. I am looking to add the FX30 along side my A7iv.
@@AllThingsFilm1 Me too!! It’s a killer combo. I bought my A7iv for hybrid use, but am taking way more stills than I thought I would because the 33MP sensor is so good. I also really like shooting g in 4K/60p so this FX30 will be perfect for that. My camera store guy talked to the Sony rep and he said they will start shipping on 11/24. Can’t wait!
is the new sensor better than the one on a6600 and in what way?
@@redsox7897 definitely rolling shutter
Rolling shutter in FX30 is bad. Better then 6300-6700 finally, but still bad.
The colors = mustard in this video 😊
Sony is going to release the a7000 with this 26mp sensor. It will have 6K30p and oversampled 4K60p with no crop, but no 4K120p, and 10 bit in all video modes
The GH6 has the fastest sensor great stabilization good view finder a well made camera with lots of firmware updates huge range of lenses..fx30 cropped crippled no finder with top handle away over £ 2000...
Waiting for the 26mpix 6700...
Correction their is no crop in the standard 4k 60 on the canon r7 however you can choose a 1 to 1 readout which is croped.
It's line skipped.
I almost thought this one would be near perfect for you. I guess I should be ashamed I don't know you well enough after all this while.😂 Stab seemed better from what I saw with Gerald.
I would love the gh6 out of all these cameras
GH6 with Sony autofocus… I would not even debate about it in my mind. Instant buy.
I remember the times you where leading the anti viewfinder movement 😂
Did you forget about the Fuji X-H2, that one is only $200 and gives you 8K for maximum cropping 😉
Well the “s” should have been the video flagship.
Fujifilm couldn’t resisted it (again!) to confuse us all.
They basically splitted thr xt5 in 2 cameras.
Xh2 is basically the video side of what the xt5 should have been…
But photographers (I hate them 🤪🤣) would have hated the bigger body and flippy screen and no “analog” dials.
It’s true and nice, that they gave us 8k options.
That open gate thing does seem tempting.
I might buy FX30. Only for cinematic production, not take wild life photos or vlog.
I dont care if 4k 120fps will be cropped, because its not case here. The case is price for having limited bankroll to produce cinematic stuff with camera containing properties that might lack from other cameras in this price range. Having flip screen in field is vital, 16bit colors might be valuable (not sure is 12bit enough, as I have been checking lumix s5 for raw video).
So at the moment I'm balancing/specsing between lumix s5 and sony fx30, to get "Run and gun" camera for small scale video/movie short production. I wont buy bmc 4k, because of the size and not having flip screen (despite other benefits like free resolve studio, and direct usb-c record to drives(no need for expensive recorders).
There's no such thing as 16 bit colours on these consumer cameras. The Ninja V+ and BM recorders only record 12 bit LOG. Go and read Sony's * beside their "16 bit" claim, or watch The DP Journey who talked about this. 16 bit LINEAR is compressed into 12 bit LOG.
Also keep in mind if you intend to record RAW video with the FX30, you are using smaller than the mft sensor size because it's a 1:1 pixel readout.
@@professionalpotato4764 no mentions in sheets and videos about this issue, if so this another "cropping trap" by producers and hype 👽
Also is not having the dual iso from the fx3, it’s a much more expensive camera to be fair with fx30
Finally back in proper room
struggling to justify the fx30 over the penasonic gh5ii like its $1000 cheaper... some better in built video features like waveforms, but its a new system so i need new lenses.... the view finder feels like a killer for me aswell
"if you want a hybrid system for youtube" i have issues with sony's choices here but this very firmly isnt targeted to that category. this is a cinema camera. not having an EVF is extremely standard because generally you add one of those externally. this isnt a good solution for wildlife and hybrid and vlogging because it isnt designed for that in any way, shape, or form
this is designed to be used in a small scale production environment. very plainly, do not buy this to film yourself or to film without a rig. this is a very different tool. the comparisons here are more to the blackmagic pocket 6k or the c70... or, you know, the fx3
A GH6 calls for also investing in a new PC so I can smoothly edit 10 bit. I am comfortable with 8 bit, and will stay in an 8 bit mode.
why is that a problem when you can use proxy for editing?
@@Desuetus For myself, it is a hobby. As a disabled person, I have chosen to limit complexity and expense in what I do. Eight-bit suits my needs just fine. I appreciate how Sony has kept use of the SD card in at least one memory slot, keeping options available.
More vicious please
When in doubt, go with the Pannyboy! I'm just joking, there is no doubt. Pannyboy for the win! Again.
But I mainly shoot photos, so what do I know.
Hi. R5, R6, R7?
but fx30 is a videocentric camera. Why would I want a viewfinder? Actually, Id need to connect a field monitor... Just me though..
12MB smaller pixels sensor is shittier than a full-frame bigger pixels sensor.
While I was the thinking the same thing as you, for a moment, today… when discovering that they kept a high megapixel on the sensor.
(I don’t watch too many camera news, to not jump back on the new gear syndrome:))
It’s good that the resolution is there.
BUT, if the rolling shutter or 1080p still sucks, this is gonna have to wait, until I decide to upgrade.
10:58 I'm single, I guess that justifies me having the XH2S😂
THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING MISSING lmao
Certainly the year of APS-C.
I feel like this is the perfect camera for your wildlife stuff. If you really want you could buy an external Viewfinder. You already have the 200-600.
Btw have you considered the 100-400 gm?
I heard you complained about the minimum focus distance on the 200-600. The 100-400 has like 98 cm. Almost macro-like at 400. Imagine the fx30 with that!
So you knew it half a year ago, and decided to go for the OM-1 yeah?
nice!
"Wheres my viewfinder?" (trumpets)😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I believe the pixel-to-pixel, 300fps on the GH6 is cripplePony ridden.
But don't trust me neither...
Maybe you now believe that mount size has nothing to do with IBIS performance. It's very simple, sensor needs to stay inside of the image circle that the lens creates and the size of the image circle doesn't depend on the mount size. If you think about size of the holes in front of the sensor, the rear element is always smaller than the mount and aperture can be a lot smaller but those have nothing to do with IBIS performance on any system. It's the overall body size of Sony cameras that restricts the size (and strength) of the IBIS components and also limits the available space for moving the sensor.
I wonder how your wife is putting up with all your shenanigans😂. You are awesome in weird way!
But to be honest, in wildlife the Sigma 150-600 mutates to a extreme tele in 4k60 1:1 readout on the R7 (with RF 800 literally unusable)
Even my old 70-200 2.8 is already anything about 180-500mm in 4k60 crop video and very awesome, just unusable for stills and uncropped modes in wildlife mostly since its too short, still with 110-320mm effectively. Until i get a Sigma 150-600C or S i will prefer for sure the 70-200 for wildlife over my RF 800, 4K 60 cropped looks AMAZING!
As long the quality is ok (and the 4k cropped image is very usable!) i dont see additional (moderate!) crop not as bad, for wildlife even good!
What hurts the most with the R7 is the uncropped 4K60 mode since its line skipped and really looks ugly (for 4K), just 4K fine which is limited to 24 or 30 fps looks AWESOME, but for wildlife i use more or less only 4k60 cropped or 1080p120 uncropped, for slower stuff i have a 4k fine custom setting but only used it yet for comparisons between the modes, i dont see much sense in 30 fps.... 60 at least.
And the damn R7 doesnt overheat... as i had the R6 for a few days this thing got hot by just using 120 fps live view, probably the old firmware. Luckily i could sell it fast without losing money.
Finally, the FX30 video I was waiting 1 day for. This is the only review I care about. Gerald Undone is a poser.
The colour science 🧬 in the fx30 is the same as their cinema line
I feel like you won't be happy until there is perfect 4k 960 lol
FX30 become expensive the moment when you invest in a CFexpress Type A card. Why Sony just didn't go with Type B just boggle my mind. Plus there no mechanical shutter. I rather go with Fujifilm
Wait next month for your viewfinder "photographer" version of the camera. Sony a6xxx or 7xxx or whatever
If anything that 120p crop will be advantageous to your wildlife video. You can probably zoom into a squirrel as they are taking a shit with full autofocus.
Apparently the only other camera they are realising is the sony a7r5
Are they really releasing a "photographer" version of this camera? There are no rumors about this yet, but if they are really going to release it, I'll wait until it is announced.
@@gregmaggi01 I'm like 95% sure. It's a Sony pattern
@@nVuFilms Would be amazing if it really happens, I need a camera upgrade by the end of this year. Hope to hear rumors soon.
Of all those cameras i would buy the fuji or the gh6 but as a gh5 user it would be the gh6 more likely. I would never buy a canon camera
The 26 megapixels are many people's favorite feature on the FX30 from what I've seen because it allows oversampled 6K shooting that produces a cleaner and sharper 4K output. Great video as always!
So do Fuji X-T3, and it has faster sensor readout.
the damn deal breakers always get ya...
ugh, no viewfinder. That's a showstopper.
I honestly prefer the a7siii view finder over real life.
Releasing an $1,800 camera in a market with shrinking profit margins means that we have to accept the choices and compromises as presented. All camera reviewers ignore the budget challenges that the manufacturers face because of the cost of new sensors and new image processing chips.
We can only fantasize about the features and price value that cameras could offer if they were selling hundreds of millions of units per year as in the smartphone business.
Can someone explain to me how it is a 2.43 crop?
1.5 x 1.62. APS-C crop times additional crop in 4k 120p.
The Sigma FP called, no one answered, but it left a message: "full frame, cinema, under $2k" then hung up. But I have an instax photo of the X-T4 in my wallet.
My girlfriend is just jealous of Casey
Cuz all I talk about is
His videos and humour 😂
She says “ I hate TONEH Guy “ 😅
The FX30 "requires" a CF type A express card for 4K 60/120 and HD 240 fps which brings up the price significantly. Save your money for a A7SIII
Also that screen in bright light I think will be unusable I have a7iv and helps a lot the viewfinder also I doubt in the low lights capabilities of the fx30 but nice camera
How in the F%#K is the FX30 a cinema camera when it lacks shutter angle, vectorscopes and other common cinema camera tools? I am not falling for this again Sony. Stop labeling cameras as cinema when they lack essential cinema functionality. All of these cameras make me appreciate my S1H/GH6 more and more.
May you spend every waking moment confronted by the Cripple Hammer.
Kind of random but I wish UA-cam had 120fps+ support
'Sony will never make an a1 styled apsc monster because they would never harm their full frame segment'
FX 30 has the same processor as a7iv and a7Siii making the read out speed 2/3rds of a7IV (a7Siii readout speed is 1/3rd of a7IV) which makes Ibis a little off compared to a7Siii. Stabe has a lot to do with readout speeds in Sony cameras.
4k 120p was never going to be full frame. Sony do not even have it in a7iv, it would be completely bad product decision. Also, Imaging XR processor can only handle 12 megapixel well for 4k 120.
And kasey jumped to some conclusions about a7Siii's wildlife capabilities as well before using 200-600 therefore I will wait until he compares the quality of fx 30 and xh 2s when he gets his hands on fx 30 obviously.
FX30 lack of viewfinder fix... Vufine VUF-110 wearable monitor