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Love my GH6, but have always been a Pan M4/3 user, since 2011 anyway. You didn't mention that the GH6 has no overheating problems thanks to the cooling fan, so there is no recording limit. Also the Pan menus seem the easiest to use.
I bought the GH6. Even though I thought a moment about the FX 30. And why? The FX30 on a gimble could give me a handling like my old GH2 but in 4k 50p. But so many Pana-lenses later i would like to keep them. Just for the autofocus an extra camera with extra lenses, cards an reader is not efficient at all. So I‘m still happy with my GH5s + GH6
Both are great cameras. I currently own a GH6, and also wanted the FX30 but I think now i'd rather just go full frame and wait for the S5iix or the potential S1H mark ii with PDAF (might have a to wait another year for it though lol).
I have the Lumix GH6. More recording options on it. Its made for video production work. Sony is awesome for photography. Those Sony mirrorless cameras overheat when I shoot long videos on them, I never had this issue on the GH6. I never had the FX-30 though, I believe it has a fan, APS-C is a larger sensor than Micro 4/3, but I can't tell the difference though, they both look great.
Wait until you film real fiction/documentary films under hot weather conditions (which will be standard very very soon) and you shall change you positions. Because the fan and cooling system of the FX30 let it run for hours (and my place reached 43°C, in the shade, last summer). Then, you have an opinion about a camera you don't own... weird ! I filmed for about 10 years with GH3/GH4/GH5 and borrowed a GH6 before buying. That was enough to understand how more advanced is the FX30, and not only in the AF aspects (let's be honest, GH line-up has NO real functioning AF... the thing is a joke). This camera is about video production and fits into professional workflows without a single problem, and my editor colleagues love it ! The HDMI out signal is such a gift for post-production teams. GH cameras are nice for short films and ads, but you need a focus operator and lots of light. If one of those is missing, you'll have headaches trying to chose only sharply focused and well lit sequences ! Panasonic GH used to be some sort of a standard... not anymore. Why is it that not a single cinema camera is fitted with an MFT sensor ? Have a think. Thank you MFT sensors, you had your time... let's move on.
Great comparison and both great cameras. What I don’t understand about the FX30 though, being Sony’s ‘cinema’ line, is the lack of shutter angle. And also the crop in 4k 120 is massive. Gives you an even smaller image area than mft.
Thanks for the test, great job ! Filming solo with the GH6 is painful. When Panasonic decides to develop a proper AF system, one that functions for real, things shall change. But until then... The fan and cooling system of the FX30 let it run for hours (and my place reached 43°C, in the shade, last summer). I filmed for about 10 years with GH3/GH4/GH5 (all sorts of stuff, mostly small to medium scale productions) and borrowed a GH6 before buying. That was enough to understand how more advanced is the FX30, and not only in the AF aspects (let's be honest, GH line-up has NO real functioning AF... the thing is a joke). This Sony camera is about video production and fits into professional workflows without problems, and my editor colleagues love it ! The 16 bit raw clean HDMI out signal is such a gift for post-production teams. GH cameras are nice for short films and ads, but you need a focus operator and lots of light. If one of those is missing, you'll have headaches trying to chose only sharply focused and well lit sequences ! Panasonic GH used to be some sort of a standard... not anymore. Why is it that not a single cinema camera is fitted with an MFT sensor ? Have a think. Thank you MFT sensors, but you had your time. Now your performances have already hit the ceiling (with the GH5)... let's move on. The 6.2K sensor of the FX30 delivers a clean signal (internally or through HDMI) and can be used for superb results (and also enables zoomed-in sequences, thanks to the "Clear Image Zoom" function, up to 1.5x in 4K with no loss). Large-scale productions use it as a crash-cam, and it fits perfectly with sooc material from Alexas and Venices... it's no mystery why !
To be honest, both cameras are exceptionally good. It all depends on your own needs, and if you already invested in one of those systems, e-mount or m4/3 mount. The other possible reason to choose one of those will be the need of autofocus. If you don’t need autofocus, GH6 is good, why not.
GH6 is amazing - I believe there will be a time in the future where people will look at a GH camera and consider it so superior to the Full-Frame counterparts for filmmaking, and the autofocus is improving too. I love the cropless 300fps - amazing it's the one I picked.
with the new G9II with phase detect hybrid autofocus and all the other features just announced it seems as Panasonic truly still believes in the M43 system.
Great comparison video Shane. Great timing of this video Shane, as today I was researching the specs of both the cameras very deeply and then your this video alert pops on my mobile screen. I think you just read my mind and thanks for this detailed video.
@Geeky Nerdy Techy Yes, Shane your videos are very helpful. I'm inspired with all your videos 🙏. This video is a clear comparison between GH6 and FX30. So, you are correct that in front of camera and behind camera is to be considered. Thank you for this point Shane🙏.
Thanks for the comparison, Shane. Mark in Marin County here. If only the FX30 had open gate / 6K resolution to take advantage of its 24MP sensor. Absolutely no idea why Sony left that feature out (espescially since 4K resolution pays the penalty in rolling shutter already). I guess the problem would be with the FX30 potentially overheating if shooting in 6K. I might pick up a used GH6 as a B or C cam, although i really do wish the low light performance were a bit better. Darn. Oh, forgot to mention that your footage is looking good.
I find that lenses and ecosystem make a huge factor. Much more than people on youtube want to admit. How many people only have an FX30 or a GH6? What are your mates shooting? what have you shoot in the past? Do you do collabs? These are important also
I moved from Panasonic to Sony because of the shocking AF. I had used a GH4 for many years and always used manual focus. I started video filming back in the 1980's and AF wasn't really usable so the GH4 didn't bother me but when I started self recording you start to appreciate that decent AF is needed. I would have stayed with panasonic if the AF was decent but having switched to the FX30 I wouldn't go back even though the GH7 looks like it's solved the AF issues.
I have the FX30, and it's great. I am considering getting a second camera. And it may just be the Panasonic S5iix. I started out on Panasonic, and I've always liked the skin tones it captures over Sony. Sony skin tones tend to lean towards red or yellow. But, I've also created an S-Cinetone type profile with Cine2 that I find to be superior to S-Cinetone, where the skin tones are fantastic. With that said, I am also looking at the Sony ZV-E1. But, after hearing that the A7Cii will mostly like be released around this summer, I am holding out to see what that brings to the table. A lot of great choices out there. Including some Canon. Particularly, the Canon R8 looks good at $1,499. So, there's that. There are almost too many choices at this point.
There's definitely something special happening with that V-log profile. I often shoot with the FX6 and love it but sometimes feel like my S5 would've gotten a better image.
Hi! As a little background, I'm a satisfied Lumix m4/3 user but before the anouncement of the new S5ii I thought Panasonic was going to be stuck forever with its archaic focus system so after 6 years of using my lumix m4/3 camera I decided to switch to Sony for the superb autofocus. I chose the fx30 as it was the almost perfect camera. It had all good things from the fx3 but for a much more affordable price with the aps-c sensor. So I ordered it after having watched a ton of reviews and tests, where people on youtube claimed that it was all around an almost perfect camera. I received it and checked it out, made all the settings right and did some testing to see how/if I could work with it to replace/improve on my former Lumix camera. I found some flaws however that don't seem very small, I could enumerate them but maybe it's not required for this comment. The biggest of the flaws was its REALLY BAD IBIS system :(( I'm thoroughly dissatisfied with it and I'm wondering what to do?! I can't use the camera with such an IBIS as I shoot events and my former camera was very good for handling walking and movement, unlike the sony which sensor makes erratic movements and sensor shifts that render the video footage useless (Now having watched a ton of more videos I see that all sony mirrorless cameras, even the most expensive ones, behave like this concerning their IBIS) :(( I don't want to buy and shoot with a gimbal, as it would be another complication for my setup and Catalyst products seem to be an innovative way to deal with this issue, however the shutter speed must be really high in order to overcome the motion blur during stabilization. I tried with shutter speed of 200 and the footage came out still muddy. Maybe at above 250 it starts to work. This workflow of stabilizing each clip in Catalyst however seems very inefficient and time and energy consuming. So my final question after this whole dissapointment is: IS THERE A WAY TO STABILIZE SONY FOOTAGE without so much hassle? I have informed myself about a few possible solutions, mostly adding weight to the camera, but for event videography I don't want to add a ton of weight and go around with it all day long and as a result it doesn't help that much either. So I don't see as a solution these options as gimbals, having a heavy rig or extensive stabilization and render times in post. I tried handles with moderate success but the sensor shifts still persist and make the videos unpleasent the least. WILL EVERYBODY JUST STOP PROMOTING CAMERAS THAT HASN'T TESTED personally and properly. If any of the audience knows some solution for the Sony IBIS problem, I'll be happy to hear it. If I don't find any, it would be a pity, but I'd have to sell this otherwise potentionally good all around camera. Thank you.
Personnaly with my A7S3 I always use a top handle, it allow me to make it way more usable. But yeah, I use a gimbal 50% of the time unfortunately, that's why I love my GH6 so much lol
Wall of text , shame And the ibis part is a double edged sword , the stronger ibis in lumix warps wide angle like crazy , sony not so much Use gimbals if you need stability , no other options Cut down on your text man
Great videos, Actually I would go to the GH6 but I think the S5ii is more adapted to my usage...still on edge I will wait a little GH6 price dropped at least considerably so maybe new MFT cameras is going to appear...so at least I hope for a new MFT with PDAF and better lowlight performance. Was thinking maybe second base iso around 6400 or even maybe 8000... As always nice work done with the video...😊
This would seem like a simple choice for the lens ecosystem alone with M43 offering so many great, cheap options. Only comparing the output and features, I'd also give it to the GH6. It's funny that you said the AF was so much better on the Sony (which is probably true) , but you couldn't see that from the sample video you showed. It's also worth noting that as soon as you stop down the lens, the Sony will get drastically worse than the GH6 in terms of AF due to a less advanced contrast AF on the Sony (as it ONLY uses contrast AF in that situation).
No one, NO ONE, compares the LUMIX GH5S (the one with an S!!!!) for video comparison. I don't know why, panasonic made this camera for video!!! It's better in everything in the video specs, specially in low light.
Probably not exclusively for live streaming, but it's an improved video camera for shooting up to 4k120p and 5.9k. If you at all film, it's a huge upgrade and the colour science is way nicer than the GH5. Overall, it's a big upgrade but for live streaming at 1080p or 4K, you might not notice a big difference due to the live streaming quality.
As far as just plain robustness of video quality, the FX30 looks subpar to my eyes. Like its too digital and way too sharp, plus the highlights look too bright as it had less DR, OR is it just me??
Well for photography, the FX30 is about as slow and cumbersome as they can come. You literally can’t imagine how badly the photography function is crippled in the FX30. No mode dial. No drive dial. No AF mode toggle. No EVF. It’s absolutely unwieldy to take a photograph and then you have to navigate back to your video settings.
Great comparison! Thanks! I bought the GH6 a few months ago and i am amazed with the quality it can renders... but i often have (too often i might add) a streaking issue in v-log mode. Do you experience the same issue?
I've seen the streak once but it's pretty rare. I've seen it on other cameras as well depending on the situation. You'll only notice it very particular shooting situations (or at least that's how its been for me). It's a great camera.
Great comparison, especially for me, as I still can't make up my mind which one to buy. Great AF on the Sony, but it lacks waveform, viewfinder, or SSD recording, like the GH6 has, and is more expensive. I think I'm going to have to hire them both, and see if I can live with the GH6's inferior AF, or the Sony's lack of viewfinder, sadly, I think the perfect camera, is a combination of them both!
I choose GH6 of course :) I think that the cameras of Lumix have the best ergonomic design and best IBIS at all. On the other hand, Sony has a great auto focus system.
I purchased a new Gh6 for only $800 on sale at Best Buy yesterday, all that I needed to do was purchase the Best Buy Plus membership for $50 to get the discount. Screaming deal! I already own the GH5II, which I plan to keep.
I want to teach videography and use a good camera... The question is: 1.- Buying a GX85 very compact camera in a low price and record quality video with: "Atomos Ninja V" or: 2 .- Forget about the compactness of the Gx85 and go for a more expensive and newer camera like the GH6 camera and not use the "Atomos Ninja V". it is an easy or difficult choice, for a person as experienced as you?
The GH6 is a better option over using a Ninja with a GX85. It's more stuff to carry around and more batteries to charge. The GH5 MK II is a great camera for the price as well if the GH6 is too expensive.
I had the sony FS7 and didn't like the colors, I also had a lumix g85 which I liked more (color-wise). Now aiming for the GH6, lightweight and good enough. The camera I really want (Arri) has 17 stops of DR and is over my budget.
Hello shane. Thank you for the comparison. Two cameras have been on my radar for a month and I couldn't decide which one to buy. I really like the gh6 because of its professional look. I shoot wedding videos but I'm torn between FX30 and GH6, which one should I choose for my work? I have been following you for a long time and your opinions are important to me. Maybe you can be a pioneer in the camera I will buy with your ideas. Finally, I always use the camera in autofocus.
My previous FF Sony E mount lenses work on the FX30. Future Sony bodies will work with the lenses I have added. Example 11mm 1.8 on ZVE1. From GH6 to S5II you are not going to get that.
Hello im try to buy one but who is winner in moire situations? is better Sony in low light?, I think yes, the 16 bits raw on hdmi vs the 12 bits really make diferentes in the final color grading?, i mean is any tv that plays 16 bits or 12 of color?, or this only affect when you are into the color grading?, please let me know what will be my next camera thanks a lot❤😊
it's a tough call. Most studio/UA-camrs would go for the Sony FX30, but if you shoot handheld the GH6 is a great camera - the G9II is even better in my opinion right now.
The s5iix is missing 5.7k 60 prores? Im shootin gh6 5.7k 60 multi angle recorded airglu external .autofocus is killing me for live event as one operator in karate dojo. I seen your settings vid and yeah gh6 w fast lens can be challenging. Can you find infinity on the lumix 10-25 and 25-50? Sony is tempting but if i drop resolution there is another option s5iix ? It has 4k 60 12bit correct me if im wrong. ❤🎉Thank You
Yes, I have seen it in controlled conditions. The FX30 does it as well, but the Sony fans won't tell you that. you can check out my GH7 review for examples of all of the streaking issues.
The only thing dead about mft is the brain cells of those certain youtubers who make such a silly claim. Mft is far from dead, the gh6 is currently still easily the best hybrid camera for buck (August 2023). Sony has auto focus in it's favour but you sacrifice either a bunch of cash or a bunch of features to get it and thus is why gh6 wins hands down!
I can't take photos. I'm shooting a video. Many years. I've been waiting for the Sony AX-800 and it hasn't arrived and it won't. So I started looking around for cameras that could shoot video. It's been a tragedy for a long time. But 2022 was a very fertile year and the GH6 was one of the favorites. The brake was the automatic focus. So when the first news of the FX30 came out, I sped up and bought the first one that was available. The video doesn't lie. Dynamic stabilization is a weakness, but excellent focus compensates for this disadvantage. You just have to learn to live with the pros and cons. I just have a different camera for walking videos. After experience with previous cameras, I was very concerned about the camera being 422 and 10bit. I wanted a reserve for video editing. S-Cinetone almost eliminates this need, and the need for color or contrast adjustments has also dramatically decreased. Against the FX-3, there is more noise in difficult lighting conditions, but this can also be solved with suitable lenses. Also, until recently, the FX-30 had the advantage of focus breathing compensation (especially for GM lenses) against the FX-3. However, this has been resolved with the latest firmware update for the FX-3. I'm glad I bought the FX-30 and it makes me happy and makes beautiful videos.
I used to use Panasonic cameras to video weddings but sold them in the end because of the yellow jaundice colour cast which I could never really fix to my liking. To me its striking in the comparison shots. What makes pleasant colour is subjective I guess, I had hoped that Panasonic had migrated away from this as it stops me purchasing what are otherwise great cameras....
Me pregunto cual es el grado de profesionalismo al usar un microfono que te tapa la cara en vez de uno que te da facilidad de hablar, un lavalier por ejemplo, quieres que tu video luzca mas "fancy", en resumidas cuentas si lo que necesitas es grabar en video consiguete una camcorder y entonces si eres propfesional, si necesitas " versatilidad " entonces puedes usar cualquiera de estas camaras con la facilidad de tomar fotos que una camcorder no te serian igual.
So because of your taste, all is established? Lol FX cinema line's cameras deliver beautifully. Some features are useless if the quality of the image looks like an awesome phone, which is not an FX's problem; it'sa Panasonic one. You might be one of the few, one the proud Lumix fans, and that's okay.
That's an opinion and not fact. "Pro" use is anything where you get paid to make a video. Each of these are capable. The GH6 kills the FX30 in a number of ways which I mentioned in this video and vice versa.
The GH5S is one of my favorites, but it's not better than either of these two just on a technical level. The GH5S has the 1.8x crop which I love instead of the 2.0, but the color science, resolutions, and bitrates aren't on par with either.
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GH6. ❤ Once a Panasonic, always Panasonic.! 😊
GH6 of course. Weather sealed lenses, double ibis, 5.8k, colors...
still happy with my GH6 I was tempted by the FX30 but I already have good selection of m43 lens so i kept with that
Both are great cameras. The price and lense selection might be the deciding factors for many
Love my GH6, but have always been a Pan M4/3 user, since 2011 anyway. You didn't mention that the GH6 has no overheating problems thanks to the cooling fan, so there is no recording limit. Also the Pan menus seem the easiest to use.
Fx30 also built with cooling fan
I bought the GH6. Even though I thought a moment about the FX 30. And why? The FX30 on a gimble could give me a handling like my old GH2 but in 4k 50p. But so many Pana-lenses later i would like to keep them. Just for the autofocus an extra camera with extra lenses, cards an reader is not efficient at all. So I‘m still happy with my GH5s + GH6
Both are great cameras. I currently own a GH6, and also wanted the FX30 but I think now i'd rather just go full frame and wait for the S5iix or the potential S1H mark ii with PDAF (might have a to wait another year for it though lol).
Thank you!
Gh6.
Last work - gh5.
Today work - ZCam e2m4 + F6 + S6.
Plan to sell m4 and buy gh6.
I have the Lumix GH6. More recording options on it. Its made for video production work. Sony is awesome for photography. Those Sony mirrorless cameras overheat when I shoot long videos on them, I never had this issue on the GH6. I never had the FX-30 though, I believe it has a fan, APS-C is a larger sensor than Micro 4/3, but I can't tell the difference though, they both look great.
Wait until you film real fiction/documentary films under hot weather conditions (which will be standard very very soon) and you shall change you positions. Because the fan and cooling system of the FX30 let it run for hours (and my place reached 43°C, in the shade, last summer).
Then, you have an opinion about a camera you don't own... weird !
I filmed for about 10 years with GH3/GH4/GH5 and borrowed a GH6 before buying. That was enough to understand how more advanced is the FX30, and not only in the AF aspects (let's be honest, GH line-up has NO real functioning AF... the thing is a joke).
This camera is about video production and fits into professional workflows without a single problem, and my editor colleagues love it ! The HDMI out signal is such a gift for post-production teams.
GH cameras are nice for short films and ads, but you need a focus operator and lots of light. If one of those is missing, you'll have headaches trying to chose only sharply focused and well lit sequences !
Panasonic GH used to be some sort of a standard... not anymore.
Why is it that not a single cinema camera is fitted with an MFT sensor ? Have a think.
Thank you MFT sensors, you had your time... let's move on.
Great comparison and both great cameras.
What I don’t understand about the FX30 though, being Sony’s ‘cinema’ line, is the lack of shutter angle.
And also the crop in 4k 120 is massive. Gives you an even smaller image area than mft.
Yep, I. mentioned the crop factor in the slow motion section. The GH6 is a better choice for slow motion in most scenarios. :)
as an owner of the sony fx30 and sony a7iv, i prefer the image quality/look of the panasonic.
Danke. Genau das, was ich gesucht habe. Eben die GH6 bestellt.
Thanks for the test, great job !
Filming solo with the GH6 is painful. When Panasonic decides to develop a proper AF system, one that functions for real, things shall change. But until then...
The fan and cooling system of the FX30 let it run for hours (and my place reached 43°C, in the shade, last summer).
I filmed for about 10 years with GH3/GH4/GH5 (all sorts of stuff, mostly small to medium scale productions) and borrowed a GH6 before buying. That was enough to understand how more advanced is the FX30, and not only in the AF aspects (let's be honest, GH line-up has NO real functioning AF... the thing is a joke).
This Sony camera is about video production and fits into professional workflows without problems, and my editor colleagues love it ! The 16 bit raw clean HDMI out signal is such a gift for post-production teams.
GH cameras are nice for short films and ads, but you need a focus operator and lots of light. If one of those is missing, you'll have headaches trying to chose only sharply focused and well lit sequences !
Panasonic GH used to be some sort of a standard... not anymore.
Why is it that not a single cinema camera is fitted with an MFT sensor ? Have a think.
Thank you MFT sensors, but you had your time. Now your performances have already hit the ceiling (with the GH5)... let's move on.
The 6.2K sensor of the FX30 delivers a clean signal (internally or through HDMI) and can be used for superb results (and also enables zoomed-in sequences, thanks to the "Clear Image Zoom" function, up to 1.5x in 4K with no loss). Large-scale productions use it as a crash-cam, and it fits perfectly with sooc material from Alexas and Venices... it's no mystery why !
the GH7 is getting announced today it finally has PDAF
To be honest, both cameras are exceptionally good. It all depends on your own needs, and if you already invested in one of those systems, e-mount or m4/3 mount. The other possible reason to choose one of those will be the need of autofocus. If you don’t need autofocus, GH6 is good, why not.
GH6 is amazing - I believe there will be a time in the future where people will look at a GH camera and consider it so superior to the Full-Frame counterparts for filmmaking, and the autofocus is improving too. I love the cropless 300fps - amazing it's the one I picked.
More choice of lenses too esp vintage lenses put it over the top for me
with the new G9II with phase detect hybrid autofocus and all the other features just announced it seems as Panasonic truly still believes in the M43 system.
Great comparison video Shane. Great timing of this video Shane, as today I was researching the specs of both the cameras very deeply and then your this video alert pops on my mobile screen. I think you just read my mind and thanks for this detailed video.
Thanks, Neeraj. I'm glad it's helpful mate. I think either camera is a great choice if you are either working more behind or in front of the camera.
@Geeky Nerdy Techy Yes, Shane your videos are very helpful. I'm inspired with all your videos 🙏. This video is a clear comparison between GH6 and FX30. So, you are correct that in front of camera and behind camera is to be considered. Thank you for this point Shane🙏.
Nice comparison. I would choose GH6. Because of shutter, color, screen.
Thanks for the comparison, Shane. Mark in Marin County here. If only the FX30 had open gate / 6K resolution to take advantage of its 24MP sensor. Absolutely no idea why Sony left that feature out (espescially since 4K resolution pays the penalty in rolling shutter already). I guess the problem would be with the FX30 potentially overheating if shooting in 6K. I might pick up a used GH6 as a B or C cam, although i really do wish the low light performance were a bit better. Darn. Oh, forgot to mention that your footage is looking good.
I find that lenses and ecosystem make a huge factor. Much more than people on youtube want to admit. How many people only have an FX30 or a GH6? What are your mates shooting? what have you shoot in the past? Do you do collabs? These are important also
Yes definitely. Most run and gun shooters who need bts or 2nd shooter are in the sony full frame space, atleast in my area. That’s a deciding factor
I simply love my GH6… and GH5… and GH4!❤
I moved from Panasonic to Sony because of the shocking AF. I had used a GH4 for many years and always used manual focus. I started video filming back in the 1980's and AF wasn't really usable so the GH4 didn't bother me but when I started self recording you start to appreciate that decent AF is needed. I would have stayed with panasonic if the AF was decent but having switched to the FX30 I wouldn't go back even though the GH7 looks like it's solved the AF issues.
Hi mate, waiting for Lumix s5 ii vs fx 30 😊
I have the FX30, and it's great. I am considering getting a second camera. And it may just be the Panasonic S5iix. I started out on Panasonic, and I've always liked the skin tones it captures over Sony. Sony skin tones tend to lean towards red or yellow. But, I've also created an S-Cinetone type profile with Cine2 that I find to be superior to S-Cinetone, where the skin tones are fantastic. With that said, I am also looking at the Sony ZV-E1. But, after hearing that the A7Cii will mostly like be released around this summer, I am holding out to see what that brings to the table. A lot of great choices out there. Including some Canon. Particularly, the Canon R8 looks good at $1,499. So, there's that. There are almost too many choices at this point.
There's definitely something special happening with that V-log profile. I often shoot with the FX6 and love it but sometimes feel like my S5 would've gotten a better image.
I haven’t watched yet - but I already know for sure I want both cameras. 😂
haha. Correct 🤣
Hi! As a little background, I'm a satisfied Lumix m4/3 user but before the anouncement of the new S5ii I thought Panasonic was going to be stuck forever with its archaic focus system so after 6 years of using my lumix m4/3 camera I decided to switch to Sony for the superb autofocus. I chose the fx30 as it was the almost perfect camera. It had all good things from the fx3 but for a much more affordable price with the aps-c sensor. So I ordered it after having watched a ton of reviews and tests, where people on youtube claimed that it was all around an almost perfect camera. I received it and checked it out, made all the settings right and did some testing to see how/if I could work with it to replace/improve on my former Lumix camera. I found some flaws however that don't seem very small, I could enumerate them but maybe it's not required for this comment. The biggest of the flaws was its REALLY BAD IBIS system :(( I'm thoroughly dissatisfied with it and I'm wondering what to do?! I can't use the camera with such an IBIS as I shoot events and my former camera was very good for handling walking and movement, unlike the sony which sensor makes erratic movements and sensor shifts that render the video footage useless (Now having watched a ton of more videos I see that all sony mirrorless cameras, even the most expensive ones, behave like this concerning their IBIS) :(( I don't want to buy and shoot with a gimbal, as it would be another complication for my setup and Catalyst products seem to be an innovative way to deal with this issue, however the shutter speed must be really high in order to overcome the motion blur during stabilization. I tried with shutter speed of 200 and the footage came out still muddy. Maybe at above 250 it starts to work. This workflow of stabilizing each clip in Catalyst however seems very inefficient and time and energy consuming. So my final question after this whole dissapointment is: IS THERE A WAY TO STABILIZE SONY FOOTAGE without so much hassle? I have informed myself about a few possible solutions, mostly adding weight to the camera, but for event videography I don't want to add a ton of weight and go around with it all day long and as a result it doesn't help that much either. So I don't see as a solution these options as gimbals, having a heavy rig or extensive stabilization and render times in post. I tried handles with moderate success but the sensor shifts still persist and make the videos unpleasent the least. WILL EVERYBODY JUST STOP PROMOTING CAMERAS THAT HASN'T TESTED personally and properly. If any of the audience knows some solution for the Sony IBIS problem, I'll be happy to hear it. If I don't find any, it would be a pity, but I'd have to sell this otherwise potentionally good all around camera. Thank you.
Personnaly with my A7S3 I always use a top handle, it allow me to make it way more usable.
But yeah, I use a gimbal 50% of the time unfortunately, that's why I love my GH6 so much lol
I got fx30 but I miss my panasonic g80's stabilization every day :(
Wall of text , shame
And the ibis part is a double edged sword , the stronger ibis in lumix warps wide angle like crazy , sony not so much
Use gimbals if you need stability , no other options
Cut down on your text man
This is great, I'd like to see this comparison with the GH7...if you have the time ;)
GH6, this was an easy choice. I see no particular reason for selecting that specific Sony camera.
Great videos,
Actually I would go to the GH6 but I think the S5ii is more adapted to my usage...still on edge I will wait a little GH6 price dropped at least considerably so maybe new MFT cameras is going to appear...so at least I hope for a new MFT with PDAF and better lowlight performance. Was thinking maybe second base iso around 6400 or even maybe 8000...
As always nice work done with the video...😊
I bought my new gh6 for 1300 euros for the black friday, you just need to wait a bit to have it on a budget 😁
It will drop again soon in my opinion
The G9 Mark II just dropped!! It's hybrid AF is insaaaaaaane! It's basically the GH6 with PDAF
@@ohdeazy1567Cheers ;)
May I know where where previous Black Friday 1300€ for GH6??
Thanks
This would seem like a simple choice for the lens ecosystem alone with M43 offering so many great, cheap options. Only comparing the output and features, I'd also give it to the GH6. It's funny that you said the AF was so much better on the Sony (which is probably true) , but you couldn't see that from the sample video you showed. It's also worth noting that as soon as you stop down the lens, the Sony will get drastically worse than the GH6 in terms of AF due to a less advanced contrast AF on the Sony (as it ONLY uses contrast AF in that situation).
Excellent video I love the Panasonic... your video is great... nice lighting and sound to is great.. tell us about this indoor video setup in short..
No one, NO ONE, compares the LUMIX GH5S (the one with an S!!!!) for video comparison.
I don't know why, panasonic made this camera for video!!! It's better in everything in the video specs, specially in low light.
I have made multiple GH5S videos and comparisons. Rock on.
I bought a gh5 about three years ago. Would you recommend an upgrade to gh6 for primarily live streaming?
Probably not exclusively for live streaming, but it's an improved video camera for shooting up to 4k120p and 5.9k. If you at all film, it's a huge upgrade and the colour science is way nicer than the GH5. Overall, it's a big upgrade but for live streaming at 1080p or 4K, you might not notice a big difference due to the live streaming quality.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Ty for your prompt response!
As far as just plain robustness of video quality, the FX30 looks subpar to my eyes. Like its too digital and way too sharp, plus the highlights look too bright as it had less DR, OR is it just me??
One big plus going for MFT is the likeliness of a PD AF coming up in e.g. maybe in a GH6mkII :)
ended up being the G9II lol
Well for photography, the FX30 is about as slow and cumbersome as they can come. You literally can’t imagine how badly the photography function is crippled in the FX30. No mode dial. No drive dial. No AF mode toggle. No EVF. It’s absolutely unwieldy to take a photograph and then you have to navigate back to your video settings.
Great comparison! Thanks! I bought the GH6 a few months ago and i am amazed with the quality it can renders... but i often have (too often i might add) a streaking issue in v-log mode. Do you experience the same issue?
I've seen the streak once but it's pretty rare. I've seen it on other cameras as well depending on the situation. You'll only notice it very particular shooting situations (or at least that's how its been for me). It's a great camera.
Great comparison, especially for me, as I still can't make up my mind which one to buy. Great AF on the Sony, but it lacks waveform, viewfinder, or SSD recording, like the GH6 has, and is more expensive. I think I'm going to have to hire them both, and see if I can live with the GH6's inferior AF, or the Sony's lack of viewfinder, sadly, I think the perfect camera, is a combination of them both!
Great comparison video! I like your energy on camera! Can you do a FX30 vs S5ii comparison video?
Thanks for the kind words! Yep, it's in the planning stage already :)
I choose GH6 of course :) I think that the cameras of Lumix have the best ergonomic design and best IBIS at all. On the other hand, Sony has a great auto focus system.
I think you nailed the tittle. It was impossible for me not to click.
I was going to say that!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis and conclusion is… be Mark Bennett, buy them all.
haha thanks mate. 🤣
@@markwiemels this is correct
GH6 Baby!
I purchased a new Gh6 for only $800 on sale at Best Buy yesterday, all that I needed to do was purchase the Best Buy Plus membership for $50 to get the discount. Screaming deal! I already own the GH5II, which I plan to keep.
Is this sale still live? It is now $1300 with Best Buy plus
I want to teach videography and use a good camera... The question is: 1.- Buying a GX85 very compact camera in a low price and record quality video with: "Atomos Ninja V" or: 2 .- Forget about the compactness of the Gx85 and go for a more expensive and newer camera like the GH6 camera and not use the "Atomos Ninja V". it is an easy or difficult choice, for a person as experienced as you?
The GH6 is a better option over using a Ninja with a GX85. It's more stuff to carry around and more batteries to charge. The GH5 MK II is a great camera for the price as well if the GH6 is too expensive.
I have a GH6. It is a great hybrid. I like the open gate.
Adding a hybrid comparison is a bit unfair. The FX30 is purely in the cineline which is why it has no viewfinder.
I mentioned that twice in the video, but these are comparable when it comes to video first features.
I had the sony FS7 and didn't like the colors, I also had a lumix g85 which I liked more (color-wise). Now aiming for the GH6, lightweight and good enough. The camera I really want (Arri) has 17 stops of DR and is over my budget.
G80/85 I likecolors too🎉🎉🎉 and especially gh5II
Hello shane. Thank you for the comparison. Two cameras have been on my radar for a month and I couldn't decide which one to buy. I really like the gh6 because of its professional look. I shoot wedding videos but I'm torn between FX30 and GH6, which one should I choose for my work? I have been following you for a long time and your opinions are important to me. Maybe you can be a pioneer in the camera I will buy with your ideas. Finally, I always use the camera in autofocus.
Which one did you end up buying?
Please say GH6!!! 🙏
"The choice is easy"... proceeds to score it as a tie.. lol GH6 user and I absolutely love it but would love to get my hands on an fx30 to try it out.
My previous FF Sony E mount lenses work on the FX30. Future Sony bodies will work with the lenses I have added. Example 11mm 1.8 on ZVE1. From GH6 to S5II you are not going to get that.
Awesome comparison video, thank you!
No worries!
Hello im try to buy one but who is winner in moire situations? is better Sony in low light?, I think yes, the 16 bits raw on hdmi vs the 12 bits really make diferentes in the final color grading?, i mean is any tv that plays 16 bits or 12 of color?, or this only affect when you are into the color grading?, please let me know what will be my next camera thanks a lot❤😊
it's a tough call. Most studio/UA-camrs would go for the Sony FX30, but if you shoot handheld the GH6 is a great camera - the G9II is even better in my opinion right now.
Anyone else gasp at the 3:15 mark?hahahaha
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Bro I stopped breathing when you said the best auto focus goes to the GH6 I actually stopped breathing😆😆😆
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Which one is best for a comedy sitcom? Indoors handheld.
The s5iix is missing 5.7k 60 prores? Im shootin gh6 5.7k 60 multi angle recorded airglu external .autofocus is killing me for live event as one operator in karate dojo. I seen your settings vid and yeah gh6 w fast lens can be challenging. Can you find infinity on the lumix 10-25 and 25-50? Sony is tempting but if i drop resolution there is another option s5iix ? It has 4k 60 12bit correct me if im wrong. ❤🎉Thank You
Thank you
Have you had streaking issues on your gh6?
Yes, I have seen it in controlled conditions. The FX30 does it as well, but the Sony fans won't tell you that. you can check out my GH7 review for examples of all of the streaking issues.
I want a GH camera with the hybrid PDAF from the Lumix S5 Mark II! So does every other Lumix m43 user...
Easy!! That's the Lumix G9 II
It's literally the GH6 with PDAF lol
The only thing dead about mft is the brain cells of those certain youtubers who make such a silly claim. Mft is far from dead, the gh6 is currently still easily the best hybrid camera for buck (August 2023). Sony has auto focus in it's favour but you sacrifice either a bunch of cash or a bunch of features to get it and thus is why gh6 wins hands down!
I can't take photos. I'm shooting a video. Many years. I've been waiting for the Sony AX-800 and it hasn't arrived and it won't. So I started looking around for cameras that could shoot video. It's been a tragedy for a long time.
But 2022 was a very fertile year and the GH6 was one of the favorites. The brake was the automatic focus. So when the first news of the FX30 came out, I sped up and bought the first one that was available.
The video doesn't lie. Dynamic stabilization is a weakness, but excellent focus compensates for this disadvantage. You just have to learn to live with the pros and cons. I just have a different camera for walking videos.
After experience with previous cameras, I was very concerned about the camera being 422 and 10bit. I wanted a reserve for video editing. S-Cinetone almost eliminates this need, and the need for color or contrast adjustments has also dramatically decreased.
Against the FX-3, there is more noise in difficult lighting conditions, but this can also be solved with suitable lenses. Also, until recently, the FX-30 had the advantage of focus breathing compensation (especially for GM lenses) against the FX-3. However, this has been resolved with the latest firmware update for the FX-3.
I'm glad I bought the FX-30 and it makes me happy and makes beautiful videos.
In summary, the choice is (never) easy
All i want is lumix g95 ii in body of g85 with new sansor with no crop 4k with 1080p 120…
I have both....
Great video! Love my fx30 for the price!
aside from everything else ,please keep white balance same on comparison footages!Q
It was. When you shoot outside, the light changes.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy gray card
Title: The Choice is EASY!
skipping to the end of the video: "I call this a Tie"
what a clickbait
The choice is easy depending on your shooting scenario and requirements. if you didn't follow along, that's on you.
I'll buy Lumix S5ii than FX30.
Run and gun certainly needs autofpcus
Hard to believe that you turned IBIS on at all for the FX30 lmao
Yeah it’s pretty terrible ibis
I used to use Panasonic cameras to video weddings but sold them in the end because of the yellow jaundice colour cast which I could never really fix to my liking. To me its striking in the comparison shots. What makes pleasant colour is subjective I guess, I had hoped that Panasonic had migrated away from this as it stops me purchasing what are otherwise great cameras....
If you shot with a GH5, that camera had a green tint to it. It's fixed on the S5, S5II, GH6, GH5II, etc. :)
Me pregunto cual es el grado de profesionalismo al usar un microfono que te tapa la cara en vez de uno que te da facilidad de hablar, un lavalier por ejemplo, quieres que tu video luzca mas "fancy", en resumidas cuentas si lo que necesitas es grabar en video consiguete una camcorder y entonces si eres propfesional, si necesitas " versatilidad " entonces puedes usar cualquiera de estas camaras con la facilidad de tomar fotos que una camcorder no te serian igual.
Ve y compra una videocámara y un micrófono de lavado. Yo uso micrófonos lav todo el tiempo.
"Panasonic over Sony" - No one ever
That’s only true if you buy into the hype. I have over 6 Lumix cameras and my S5II by far my best pro camera.
So because of your taste, all is established? Lol FX cinema line's cameras deliver beautifully. Some features are useless if the quality of the image looks like an awesome phone, which is not an FX's problem; it'sa Panasonic one. You might be one of the few, one the proud Lumix fans, and that's okay.
@@BanderaFilmsAndMusic I hope your brand snobbery pays off in real life. You think you're right because you like a brand over another, it's hilarious
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Nobody that prefers Panasonic over Sony can call anyone a snob and get away with it without being laughed at. 🤣 There 🤣 Twice
Fx30 is way better for professional use.
That's an opinion and not fact. "Pro" use is anything where you get paid to make a video. Each of these are capable. The GH6 kills the FX30 in a number of ways which I mentioned in this video and vice versa.
the gh5s is better than the gh6 and fx30 for video
The GH5S is one of my favorites, but it's not better than either of these two just on a technical level. The GH5S has the 1.8x crop which I love instead of the 2.0, but the color science, resolutions, and bitrates aren't on par with either.
@@GeekyNerdyTechyas far as i see people who made good image from GH5S are getting quite same good results from GH6 but with IS its bit easier to use)