I Upgraded a $40 Amazon Keyboard Into a BAKENEKO
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- Опубліковано 8 кві 2022
- #Keybored #Keyboardshowdown2 I Turned a $40 Keyboard Into a BAKENEKO
Yup... You read that right. I turned a $40 budget Keyboard into a Bakeneko. Why? Because I was challenged to a Keyboard modding contest with a limited budget... luckily the "Keyboredneko" followed through for the WIN!
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I bow down to the engineer.
O hail keybored
You had the toughest challenge with a $20 budget. Definitely worth noting!
Hipyo nice try
Respect that you recognize the grand master. You made also a good job for the budget but I believe keybored would have won even with $20.
When he eats the glue lol
This is an incredible video. One of the reasons why you’re my favorite keyboard UA-camrs is your creativity, ingenuity, and scientific approach to keyboards.
:) I really appreciate that! It was a fun collab and hope I can do more
agreee
@@Keybored can I buy the keyboard? :) pls
You're a king for bringing some sorely needed objectivity into this overly subjective hobby.
Amazing job here.
Thank you Nick! I appreciate it!
I wonder how one would go about achieving a thock and clack sound at the same time
@@arab6745 deep/dull bottom out combined with a high-pitched snappy return, maybe?
I enjoyed the science lesson! So interesting
My jaw literally dropped when I heard the first keypress of the modded soundtest. You are a madman and I mean this in the best way. Kudos.
Upvoted for the scientific approach, epic sound profile obtained and overall amazing streak of videos one after the other! Continue making and i'll continue watching and liking! 👍
i appreciate the scientific approach to plates and whether they produce "thocc" or "clack" sounds, but i think the acoustics of the keyboard are determined more by the keyboard than just the plate that you use. the size of the acoustic chamber, the presence of any weights, what material they are, etc
Definitely right. There are so many factors. This was just focusing on plates this time. I think I covered foams, basics of sound, plates. Hmm what can be next
@@Keybored cant seem to find the foam video,can you give me the link?
@@imghosty5805 I think he is referring to this vid
ua-cam.com/video/_N8k0u75eLQ/v-deo.html
@@Keybored the hollow vs ping,i think its on your channel but I could be dumb and its on another channel
@@imghosty5805 the wind x 65 video
You've totally nailed it Keybored... unimaginable sound of the mods!
Thank you! Really appreciate it!
I love the math and am glad it lines up with what I've been seeing in sound tests. Brass has a "musical" element to it, but has always sounded deeper to me than Alu!! It also lines up with my real-world testing between PC and POM that they basically feel and sound identical.
:) hope the charts and the scientific methods make sense and helps!
Thus why brass instruments exist
I appreciate your efforts to keeps us educated on the "whys", you know you're going to learn something new when you hear "it's time for a technical segment". Great idea for the foam roll for the steel plate, I will have to try that. Best sound indeed, well done
Thanks for the very clear explanations, all of this really made sense (as a physicist and keyboard hobbyist)! I'm glad someone finally took the time to figure out the physics behind
You're like a professor in keyboard science. I got to learn sooooo much more from your videos
Wow you are a truly a magician! You didnt even use all of the budget but you still managed to make a really good sounding board.Your ideas are so creative and cool. Keep up the good work✅✅✅✅✅
Thank you so much Dico! I probably spent way too much time gluing the caps hahaha
I watched some of your other explanations of the stiffness and mass concept but THIS ONE is the best! Thanks to your guitar string example, I understand it so well now!
the explanation for plate stiffness correlating to the resonant frequency was definitely helpful. been wanting to build my own keyboards in the future, and figuring our the type of plate to use has been a confusing one until now
Very cool to see you get in on the collaborations with Switch and Click. Loved seeing your scientific approach to the build challenge and your breakdown of what you did on your channel. Great content as always and very appreciative of the build tips!
Thank you Stevie!
Fantastic work, great application to some sound theory! All together you've now covered basics of sound, foams, and now plates. Can you please make a supercut of all the educational parts? I'd love to share it with some friends who really care about the physics behind it all!
I have been using my KBDFans Odin v1 with brass plate and TTC Ace, but the sound is still pretty deep & thocky. Now I can see why. The sound doesn't depends solely on the raw material stiffness, but on the effective stiffness. Now I know exactly how to choose plate material for my next builds. Thank you!
Great video! No longer do I have to listen to a hundred sound comparison videos thanks to your explanations backed by science. I'm fairly new and was trying to determine which plate material to go for and this video helped me make that decision confidently.
Loved the plate science lesson. Makes it a little easier for me trying to understand the options as someone trying to get into the hobby. Also very curious what the actual impact of the glue might be. Tempted to buy one of these now and do a before and after.
I love these videos. Putting actual science behind the sounds. Thanks!
I love how you break down short lessons for your vids! Very informative and increase my knowledge about keyboards little by little
Those calculations on all the plate materials and how they translate to clack or thock was absolutely amazing. It gives me a much better idea now. Thanks!
Been in this hobby for a few years ( i wasnt really into high end custom keyboard kits at all back then) and I remember back in the day brass being considered the deepest and still finding it to be pretty deep, the this last year or so everyone started saying it was high pitched, was starting to feel like I was crazy, glad to know the scientific data shows that i wasn't crazy xd
I love the science focused approach! You give us the knowledge to implement our own mods with minimal trial and error by doing so. Thank you!
Polypropylene (PP) plate going to be the next frontier with its 1.325 GPa Young's Modulus and similar density to polycarbonate and polyoxymethylene for the lowest specific stiffness.
Amazing work and congratulations Scott on a well-deserved win!
ua-cam.com/video/JDS32JpDas0/v-deo.html this video proves that Polypropylene is the way to go. The 2nd keyboard in the video has a polypropylene plate. This is the Menhir by Fruitykeebs. Fr, it’s mental.
wtf are you saying
I would love an A/B comparison on the glue mod. It'd be interesting to know if it could actually help in some scenarios
SCIENCE
only 14 likes 1 year ago? what?
The material comparison was amazing and as a drummer it makes a lot of sense as there are brass, steel and aluminium snare drums which match the same order in pitch..
So cool!!
Awesome job breaking down how acoustics work on the side of the plate. If you’d ever follow up on this on analysing cases, I think it would be interesting to see how boards that are deliberately designed to have more resonance, like J-01/02 or the Bauer, compares to the more mainstream boards. Getting deep into how ABS/hollow vintage boards can sound good with clickies in comparison to modern custom keyboards would be interesting too, I think!
For sure! There are so many dynamics in keyboards that were just only peeling back the first layer!
Love the Science! Makes it more objective and easier to make a decision based on personal taste once one know which factors to look for. Thank you for that!
your explanation of the different plate types was extremely informative and useful. Thanks.
This is one of the best instructional material that I have ever heard. His explanation of air-borne sound and structure-borne is easy to understand and helped with a current build. Excellent work.. Thank you.
Glad to hear that! Hope it was helpful and stay tuned for more content!
8:15 You answered so many of my questions! THANK YOU SO MUCH!! I would not have guessed from the title of your video! I came to be entertained and to quench my curiosity and I came away EDUCATED! 😁Thanks again.
:) glad to be of help!
could not have enjoyed this video anymore than I did, super fun to watch, very informative, and cool to see how you modded this! Funnily enough I just built a Bakeneko60 today, and I'm not even sure it sounds as good as yours, haha! I've got lubed Gateron CJs and some polyfill, though now I'm tempted to try it with the tape mod and some foam in between the plate and PCB.
That keyboard sounds amazing and your mods were very creative and this explanation or lesson is stellar!
Earned a sub because of the scientific approach. Also, me and other guitarists I know that mod guitars agree about the brass part. Me and my dad both use brass blocks on our guitar bridge blocks because of two things, it adds a darker tone and adds nice sustain to the guitar.
I was blown away by the amount of science and math you had implemented into the keyboard, bravo!!!
You're THE mad scientist of keyboards. Awesome video!
Amazing analysis, very insightful
I just did this to my Kemove Shadow (a kinda budget keyboard) but using eva foam instead of glue and man it worked like a charm. Thanks for the inspiration.
Now I just need to lube my stabilizers to reach the final THOCK.
Bro your explanation of how mass and stiffness affect frequency was so good. Like i could intuitively understand how mass is inversely proportional, but stiffness being directly proportional made no sense at all. Then when u used the guitar example it made so much sense.
This is fantastic info. Thanks and please keep it up!
Great video and a fantastic upgrade! I love that u add the Science of what you are doing as well. Different from other Keyboard channels. You were the clear winner for me:)
Amazing as always.. Would really love a more indepth view of the mods here! What did you use to cut the stand off off? What did it look like after? Love the content!
love the in-depth detail!
This is the coolest keyboard video I have ever seen and every few years I watch keyboard videos for a few days or weeks until my eyes bleed. Bravo.
Amazing explanation. Love all your keyboard science videos!!
I love it how in the call when they say 'lets get started!' everyone jumps around and Scott just gets up and walks away 🤣
I discovered you from this challenge from Switch and Click’s channel and I’m so happy I did, you’re great!
This video is fascinating, thanks for this.
Your board is definately not ugly. imo its the coolest looking of them. Stealthy and subtle. love it.
This has answered sooooo many questions and nuances and I will use the info contained within for many purchases to come. Thank you! Thank you! 🤗
Glad to hear that!
@@Keybored can a similar mathematical approach be applied in the case of switches (the ones that don't have mystery blends or proprietary materials ofc)? It would make for your own "brand" of switch review that a lot of us would religiously watch. (unlimited content, wink wink). If there's a way of calculating frequency for 2 different materials hitting each other (say pom stem and nylon bot and then how the top material if different affects or filters that)
Wow! That sounds fantastic! Amazing work!
glad to see this hobby is approaching scientific tinkering like any other hobby and less "buy pricier, get better quality".
nice video man, very nice :D
Love the theory part. Great video. Thanks
came for the entertainment, left with a lot of new knowledge. thank you!
Thank you very much for the explanation! I learned so much from this.
You're very welcome!
I always was lost determining which material plate to choose for a keeb thinking hard whether if it would thoc or clack so I super appreciate the scientific portion fully explaining this! Because of this single vid, now I know. Big ups brother!
Watching Scott's videos is like studying sound engineering. Amazing content, my man!
this really helps me understand a lot about keyboard acoustics. thanks scott!
Glad it helps!
I saw this video and got into the custom keyboard hobby. It think seeing all of the components being factored into the price made it a lot more approachable. I copied most of these aspects for one of my friends and have it to him for his B-day. Then I started building more for other people and now I have my own custom keyboard. TBH I don't know whether or not this is good thing but this was a really good video!
Just wanted to say that you inspired me to do the same to my cheap 35$ keyboard from 2019. It turned out awesome! I'm very excited to type on it now.
I didn't do the glue in the keycaps though and ended up using electrical tape instead. Also my particular keyboard had solder put over one of the screws connecting the plate to the PCB. Fortunately, it wasn't too bad to desolder but a bit annoying.
Another amazing video, Scott! Great explanation of scientific stuffs that affect keyboard sound! This is the kind of content we have been looking for since most of us in the hobby have been wasting so much time and money into buying mods that do not really make our keyboards the way we want it to be. Now that your videos are here, people can be educated without having to waste so much time and effort on building their boards. Huge thanks to you, Scott!
Glad to be of help! Thank you!
Slowly becoming the bill nye of keyboards
Hahaha I'll take that as a compliment
Science!!! We love science!! \o/
Thanks for the explanation and math. Amazing job with the keyboard!
so informative you did a great job
I can confirm glue makes key caps thocc. I tried it before and after and slowly layered it over a day or 2 and holy it thocc the space arg sounds so muted and thoccy
i always wondered how plate materials affect stiffness and sound and could only rely on anecdotal sound tests. thx for finally answering the question with scientific explanations
:) you got it
I love your videos a lot! The mix of science and humor always make me want to watch how you build your keebs. But I'm also curious, what did you use to lock the keyboard since you removed the standoffs?
as i understand, it is friction-mounted, the o-ring prevents the plate & pcb from moving too much, also because the case gets more narrow towards the bottom
Hi Scott, amazing video and congratz for the win! Could you please get in to more detail about implementing the Gummy o-ring mount? Does it need any support from the bottom of the case, or the friction alone can hold it in place? I would assume it needs some support from the bottom of the case, so not every keyboard can be modified to use the Gummy o-ring mount.
You have no idea how much I appreciate the science SPECIFICALLY around frequency. I would love to talk with you about this directly and ask all my burning questions haha!! Keep up the phenomenal content!!
:) Thank you! Check out my discord!
This is beyond keyboard modding. Love this one.
I've always wanted to see how you turn these cheap 60%s into o ring mounted keyboards!
If it has a daughter board, so much easier!
your parents are so proud seeing you using your knowledge in such a useful way :)
Saw the switch and click video a few hours ago, looked for yours like crazy, and couldn’t find it. Thank god you just did, now im gonna try and mod my keebs like yours!! Great win and video!!
Thank you! Hope it works out!
the fact that you legit put glue in your mouth for the skit.... thats dedication best keebtuber!
Loving it! Can't wait for the scientific explain of pe foam, case foam and tape mod, pleaseeeee
This video is amazing and very well informative, good job man
Thank you! I appreciate it!
thank you for going deep. really really interesting.. Your the king of sound for sure..Greetings from The Netherlands.
You are literally starting a scientific revolution in this hobby. Awesome stuff!
This is my favorite type of sound from a board, I don't know if there's a specific thing to call it (besides thocky). Great work!
4:07 i still cannot believe what i've heard @@! OMG you're such a master !
this is really helpfull for beginners. Thanks a lot!
No problem!
Best detour ever. Learned a lot!
Great objective analysis.
Actually absolutely crazy. Respect
man this was aweseome. Thank you so much for the in depth knowledge share.🐻
Master!!! very good job!!!! congratulations!!!
Thank you so much!
amazing work... now i want to do the same mods to my keyboard
Such quality video that needs and deserve more views
Having done some research with metals in regards to drum kits, checks out.
Steel Snares are very bright and produce a huge amount of crack. Aluminum snares are very dry sounding, and brass snares, while providing the same crack as most metal snares do, has a warmer sound, being regarded as a nice compromise between wood and metal.
That's good to know! The info works across different segments and industries!
I love how you explained sound affected by stiffness and all the other factors mentioned. I knew that the materials and the way they interact together effect the way it sounds- but for me it was never a scientific approach. It comes more from "material knowing" I know brass is a overall heavy and soft material (like copper, but not that soft), in compare to maybe steel, so it needs to sound more thocky. But very nice to see, that there are actually rules to calculate that :D When it comes to "budget mods", i ordered a used Anne Pro II and some keycaps, switches (Gat Yellow. Do you have tips how to preperate these switches?), so all in all, the build should not cost more then 150€. I just want to build something again :) Nice video !
Scott, the technical explanations are becoming my favorite part of the channel. It did raise a question I wanted to ask. I'm planning on doing a silent keyboard build with Durock Shrimps. Would you recommend a keyboard with a gummy o ring mount style and a Polycarbonate plate as the right combination of features to give the keyboard the best chance to sound deeper and quieter? I have my eyes on the Freebird TKL or the bakeneko 65 but I'd like to make sure I'm on the right track
I think both the gummy o ring as well as a standard poron gasket mount will do well to help you emphasize that deep and silent. Pc plate, pom plate will be your best bet also! Don't go too crazy with the foam! If you use the fb TKL, Andy Nguyen showed that the force break mod really helps!
really respect you took a completely different approach and super happy it worked out for you! science ftw
Science! And glue
@@Keybored *sniff sniff* ahh smells like solvent... i mean victory!
If you wouldn't win the sound contest... they would have cheated... you are a true scientific keybo(ar/re)d grand master. Respect! ...thank you for sharing your valuable knowledge with us.
I already know this will be a banger video
It'll be a fun one!
insane modding skillz. (THAT THOCC CURES MY DEPRESSION)
Always enjoy the sweat section I mean the technical section. But I have one question: How does the o-ring sit inside the case? Did you file the PCB?
very nice video and content. I learnt new tricks thanks...
You're a breath of fresh air keybored. nice!