I've Driven Lucid Air, Model S Plaid, EQS, & Taycan All Within 1 Week! Here Are My Thoughts
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
- Kyle has had an insane week! Within a period of 7 days he was able to drive the Tesla Model S Plaid, Lucid Air Dream Edition Performance, Mercedes EQS 450+/580 4MATIC, and the Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo. In this video Kyle takes you on a bit of a "mind dump" while driving his Tesla Model 3 to share his thoughts on the cars mentioned, where they all shine and which will be best for you based on your preferences. We are looking forward to spending more time with these cars and running them through our usual tests, and that will come very soon!
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0:00 - Hello & Welcome
1:58 - Tesla Model S Plaid
7:47 - Lucid Air Dream Edition
15:06 - Mercedes EQS
18:11 - Taycan / Taycan Cross Turismo
20:51 - Range
26:28 - Charging
30:24 - Which Is Best?
#Plaid #Lucid #EQS
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German TV already did a range test with the EQS 450+ from Munic to Berlin. They reached 396 miles (638 km) with 30 miles (49 km) left in the HV battery. Speed on Autobahn between 75 to 87 MPH with an average above 64 MPH because of traffic.
Btw, great comparison in this video. Thank you and best greetings from Germany.
Kyle, Cannon Ball Run. Lucid, Plaid, EQS, Taycan head to tail.
Plaid would win hands down because of the V3 supercharging network.
Once the Lucid gets over 65mph it’s efficiency curve will drop off and it’s bigger battery won’t help and will be more a harm.
@@cybertrk listen to Kyle, there are not V3 superchargers across the USA.
I would think Tesla would win for the simple reason that the other cars would be fighting over the same chargers while Tesla has its own chargers, more chargers and in more convenient locations
Long range S for cannonball. It’s a distance not a sprint.
@@DelPhonic1 model S would be last. No V3 supercharging across USA. I’d guess, Air, Taycan, EQS and Model S last. If Tesla do a string of V3 chargers across the USA it would win.
Love this guy, even if I don’t get what I want, he’s always honest…how refreshing in this day n age…peace
Great video!
Lucid air: Long distance ultra luxury cruiser, best range. Best blend and most balanced between ultra luxury and sporty.
> I'd buy Lucid Air if Money wasn't an object.
S Plaid: straight line beast, best acceleration and best charging network, safest purchase in terms of trade in value as of now.
> I'd buy Model S Plaid if I was into drag racing.
EQS: best driver, most comfortable ride, best infotainment, and most quiet.
> I'd buy EQS if I was just into Mercedes with a short commute
Taycan: the pure sports car and best charging curve (before lucid comes out)
>I'd buy a Taycan as a pure "fun" car :)
Good summary! I'd also like to add that the Tesla S Plaid is also a great tech toy and is closest to autonomous driving (speaking as an FSD beta user with a Tesla Y)
Avoid the tesla if you want a car with good build quality, fit and finish.
Best infotainment EQS had me laughing out loud.
@@boostav haha that's according to the video
@@oulck Yeah he's talking out of his ass.
Excellent summary! I enjoyed listening to every minute of your concise description.
I'm a ex formula car racer and current EV owner, was a bit hesitant of your reviews at first but love your insight. Especially liked when you talked about brake performance after multiple uses. That is a big deal when driving fast or an track. I love regen but really appreciate big brakes. Your take on EVs is a must see, keep up the great work.
Which EV u drive now? I got my first EV for a week already. Pretty Fun but can’t do much on road with low speed limits
@@YourMajestyTheKing Currently I drive a 2019 Kona EV. When I got this were not as many choices are there are now.
@@catherinejankowitz9908 yeah, i liked the Kona and at that time, i didn’t even believe that it was already being mass produced and more like a phantom product like the Rav4 Prime. If my memory is correct then, at that auto show, they were still displaying the old leaf.
@@YourMajestyTheKing ,
Ex formula car racer😳……….looks at you miss fancy pants😆(jk), I used to track my trans am and Z06 years ago was fun shit must have been a blast to race formula cars! 🤙🏽
Great reviews! Super helpful. Thank you!
What a lovely, intelligent, well-informed review. Like having a chat with you down the pub about these cars. Thanks!
There should have been a Superlike button on UA-cam. Love the way you explain EPA range and charging speed, your conclusions about each car and how buying should be about emotions.
V. Impressed with Kyle's knowledge and no-nonsense, un-biased, straight talk. A+++
Thx Kyle. This is the exact video I was looking for. 👍
Love these informal chats!
Great comparison...like your reviews...nice wrap up of those vehicles...keep up the good work!
Great thoughts Kyle, I totally agree with what you said. You just got yourself a new subscriber.
Good video buddy! You have a new subscriber from Spain! Nice and interesting test comparison 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻
Kyle, Great review as always! Glad to see the variety of amazing EV options emerging, not only at these higher price points, but across the spectrum! I’m a Tesla Model S owner who also happens to live in Ft Fun.
Found your channel via the Lucid Air vid and I dig your work man. Subscribed. 👍🏻
Your videos have the perfect blend of specs, feel and gut reactions.
Kyle, would love to get some aftermarket wheels for my 2019 LR Model 3. Any suggestions? Looking to put my winter tires on the original rims, and summer on the new ones. Thanks
What a review! Amazing as usual Kyle. A fair review of all the pros and cons of all the mentioned EV brands. I usually don't have the patience to watch a 40-minute video, Bravo missiou Kyle. I await your detailed reviews on the Lucid once you get your hands on one :-]
Loved your review, just facts as is, and your preference. You’ve got a fan!
Hey Kyle, I like videos where you drive around and share your thoughts. Yeah, it’s a little rambling at times but you actually talk pretty fast and you don’t dwell, and it’s enjoyable to hear your thought process. Always very informed analyses.
Regarding highway road noise, that’s a tough one. Sometimes the charts say one thing but the feel is just not quite there. I think it’s a combination of vibrations and sound frequency. Vibrations affect the way we hear sound, and obviously two sounds can have the same amplitude (volume) but the higher frequency noise will sound like garbage while the deeper, lower frequency sounds are less obtrusive.
Outstanding review of these cars. I have seen car reviews of each one but this is the first objective comparison of them I have watched. Great job!
No one gives as much good, honest information and in such a pleasant way!
Great Video! Keep them coming!
Appreciate your objectivity.
Proud to be a Lucid shareholder!
Wow, excellent even handed technical review of multiple cars by a guy that knows automobiles big time. Very helpful!
Great video ! Looking forward to the cross turismo soon 😉
Great work. I just binged 10 or so episodes with one with your dad. Keep it up
Great insights. Thanks
Looks like you had allot of fun! Very cool
This is your third video I'm watching and I can't figure out how you keep me hooked all the way through a 40 min video.
Great review. Good overview. Odd thing on the sound. On my laptop it is fine, but I also watched it in my model 3 where I heard a distinct low frequency noise.
Would love to see a 500 mile or so road trip “race” staying close to speed limits with driver and observer in each of these 4 cars.
Did someone say road trip? We think it would have to be more than 1,500 miles to showcase a real difference
For a total comparison maybe better 1000 miles at 70 mph with charging to 80% that should give a time to compare cars with.
@@OutofSpecMotoring trip from Detroit to Disney, Orlando, that’s a trip thousands of families do each year.
Bjorn Nyland does these kinds of tests with 1000km
Kyle have you driven then new vette yet ??
I haven’t but would luv to hear your thoughts
EQS for me, but Lucid is very tempting.
Very nice balanced video. Everyone gets a prize!
Well, first time checking your channel and enjoyed your commentary, in-depth content and video. I'm looking forward to seeing content on the upcoming Hyundai Ioniq 5, Ford Mach-E and KIA EV6 long-range version. AIso, I'd like to see the fastest version of the (Ioniq 5 N, EV6 GT Line, Mach-E GT) comparisons once their released into the U.S.A. as anticipating buying one of the three in late 2022 or early 2023.
Plaid because of the Tesla infrastructure, both charging and technology. The speed is icing on the cake.
Great information 👍
100% agree with all your thoughts. Since for me driving dynamics is the most important in a car, my number 1 is the Taycan.
Lucid Air for me
Great excerpt of the cars Kyle, and good haircut too 👍. I agree the Lucid with 1111 HP “looks” to be slower than the Tesla Model S plaid, however you did have 3 other people in the car weighing the car down about ~500 to ~600 lbs. Would love to see a full review once you get it. Keep up the great work!
The Lucid has been out to customers for almost two weeks and there are NO customer-generated videos out there on UA-cam. None. All Tesla has to do is release a dot software update and right away several UA-camrs post videos of their Tesla going down Lombard Street in San Francisco. Why is that/
@@dzerres The people who own a Tesla and make videos probably also chase views on UA-cam, vs the type of person who would buy a $170k car might not do so. And as of now, there is a 3-month review from a customer who bought it as his daily, and he’s been pretty honest about stuff. Is it still rough for a luxury car? Absolutely. But most of that is software and is constantly being updated. The actual build is awesome, and he’s enjoyed it.
Thank you Kyle I like to hear your comments on all these 4 cars. Personally, I have driven a Taycan 4S for 2 years now and I like it very much.😀
love the video's, only thing that would make it better is when you talk about number to put it on screen, that helps me an i know other ppl to take in the info.
Great review! I would say if you do a road trip score you should include the reliability of the charging network. Which if you watched the MKBHD road trip test that was the biggest factor in the trip. The info you get about a charging site right from the map on the car is a little more detailed than from what I’ve seen. (I could be wrong there) I’m just going from other reviews and tests
I am glad you said old manny about Lucid.. It reminds me of a modern 70s buick..
Kyle nice discussion on the pro and con of each car. Unfortunately you didn't talk about the headlight performance of these 100k plus cars. Show us how these cars can see on a back road at night. Thanks to the team for all the great videos posted.
Enjoyed the video. I drive an 06 Civic with no plans to replace but I still like to keep up with the EV scene. I also live in FoCoCo, so it's fun to watch out the window as you drive around and try to see where you are in town. I noticed your Munich to Graz video last week. I lived in Munich before moving here and I got to see some familiar sights in that video, though I think you were closer to Dachau than where I used to live in Heidhausen. Keep up the video production, much appreciated.
Good comments and review. Thought you would only be the tesla boy... but you were fair across board.
Great video as usual Kyle! You bring an excellent perspective and conceptual thought to the process! Wish I could justify spending this much money on any of these. I’m excited to see if the R1S i have on order lives up to the hype. It might blend performance, capability and luxury at a relatively reasonable (sub-six figure) price point. Need room for my 3 dogs too!
I enjoy your reviews they are very fair and neutral in opinions.
I would love to see you guys come up with a road trip score! That’s one of the biggest issues with new people to EVs… I find myself having to get super detailed to help people understand why even though my Bolt and SR+ model 3 have similar ranges they are not the same in terms of road trip performance.
Very engaging! Thanks 🤩✨😎👍
If budget wasn’t an issue I would get the Taycan just because of the styling and Porsche driving dynamics but if I had to purchase the car myself I would get the Model S just because I’d need it to be a road tripper and it has the supercharger network which is by far better than Electrify America in my own experience. That EQS interior is also pretty sweet though.
Is that an interior headliner gap on your left pillar. My Tesla has the same problem too.
The Lucid Air is really the best of both worlds, and a new benchmark for luxury EVs. Once they sort out reliability issues and release cheaper variants, they'll emerge as the new champ.
I think 2023 will be better in terms of production and their release of their SUV 'gravity'.
If I could choose between a Tesla and a Lucid, I'd go for a lucid due to the battery range, it's lidar technology, and the luxury experience.
I think lucid needs to add suv models. It will be difficult to compete with Tesla, Mercedes’ and Audi….
Agreed, if I had ~$100k burning a hole in my pocket, out of these four the Air would be the way I go.
I ended up buying the lucid air in Stealth black fully loaded. Love the damn thing.
Thanks. Another good post. All see like really good choices for different reasons. Wish that the Lucid had more compelling styling. Agree with your comment. I’m in the target but just can’t get excited about that styling.
Anyone know if the EQS has sun shades in the back?! Had them before in a prior vehicle and especially miss it now that I have a little one in the back.
Also can't wait for the model s charging video. That's something I'm waiting for.
This video is must viewing for anybody considering an electric car in this price neighbourhood. Having done quite a bit of non professional track time over the years the choice is easy...Taycan (turismo) Turbo.
Nice job Kyle!
Thanks, Sean - Hope to see you soon
Hey Sean, I really would like an update on why you have been invisible on UA-cam fora long time, hope everything is okay!? / Henrik
@@KyleConner this was fantastic! No where have I seen a really in depth comparison video. I have changed my mind on the Taycan. Thanks for the clarification on it's charging and range. Love your technicality and honesty. I'm a new subscriber.
After cross shopping between these four vehicles, I ended up getting the Taycan and pre ordered the Lucid Air. I mainly got the Taycan because of how well it drove. It felt like a supercar, for cheap. Plus it's amazing looks, I especially love the rear! I ordered the Lucid Air because of its amazing efficiency, better than Tesla's and I went into the showroom myself to feel how the built quality was. Amazing. I was simply not satisfied with Tesla's built quality for how much I paid for it, so the Plaid was out of the question. The EQS, EQE don't get me wrong, they do look amazing...but it's not my style. I hate how round it looks. It really does not wow me. The efficiency also wasn't there either for luxury sedan. Meanwhile the Lucid Air checked every box of mines, which is why I preordered one. 🙂
Yea Didn't buy shit.
@@baberkhan1472 don't be a child. I ordered all of them...... In my dreams.
Very fair reviews. Hoping for real world reviews soon.
Sooooo where does Kia EV6 come in :)
Is it even close to these ones? would love your thoughts on it.
Kyle, this is a great, honest comparison. Let me know if you ever want some company on an east coast review / drive.
The thing about the lucid is that it also kinda reminds me of a $170,000 Buick. It looks cool, but kinda awkward from certain angles, and where is the huge power, are they just having traction issues, or did they over-rate the power output on their drive units?
More choices becoming available in the EV market is extremely positive and very good sign of the expansion of the EV market. The real question here is not which one is the best EV but rather which EV resonates most with you and suits your personal preferences and needs and fits your budget. The EV market is clearly exploding and following the exponential S curve adoption that we see of all disruptive technologies which will result in the inevitable and incontrovertible demise of ICE vehicles and relegate them to the dust bin of history.
I’m writing my comment just to help you with the algorithm:)
Seriously tho, I like your work I like your reviews
Hi does eqs and lucid or rivian have plug and charge? That my help with the charging
Yes they do have it
Great video, once again! I've found that Bjørn's 1000km is the ultimate road trip capability test. A shorter drive means that range can take precedence over charging. A longer drive is futile, because the average speed really doesn't change after 600mi / 1000 km. Tried that too, drove for 24 hours with my M3P and in the end, avg speed was exactly the same it was after 1000 km.
Interesting. I would think that if you have two cars where one charges faster, it would get a further ahead the longer you drive.
@@omelvold after the 1st charge is used up, battery capacuty basically becomes irrelevant and it's all down to charging and consumption. Of course if the charging curve is good you can charge deep into the pack and perhaps save one charging session (and the associated time lost due to going off highway) but the difference is minor.
Sadly he doesn't seem to watch Bjørn's 1000km otherwise he would not claim fat E-Tron is good on long trips (1 hour slower than M3). While Porsche and E-Tron-GT have been impressive, Tesla Model 3 LR even beats the combustion car if you include human brake times. So new Model S might be even better. Lucid will take some time to get to europe...
@@lukasrohr957 fat etron is good on long trips. I consider everything under 11 hours aa good road trip cars.
@@lukasrohr957 Obviously, you can’t compare a three year old luxury SUV to a new, medium sized sedan. Not only that. Teslabjørns 1000 km. tests are not done under the same conditions- and that exact distance might benefit some cars more than others. That doesn’t mean these cars are faster/better on YOUR trip.
it has track-mode, disabled / valet mode?
That's my Drive! I drive that road (Centennial Dr.) in my white M3 SR+ every day or two because I live on the other side of the res. near Lory State Park. We call it the Damn Road. Saw you drive by once in town (or most likely you given not too many dark M3s have a roof rack). Thanks for the video.
Yes please make Out of Spec Range Rating score!! Thank you.
Hey Kyle
Just wanted to say that I really enjoy the content on here and OoS Motoring. I ordered my first EV (Tesla Model Y LR) a few weeks ago and I have learned so much about what to expect from converting from ICE to EV. Keep up the quality content and hope you're able to get some well-deserved rest!
Congratulations! Thanks for watching
Minor thought on styling between EQS and Lucid. As a European the Lucid looks very American with a huge and fat boot (back), it is just what I see as a styling and very typical on American cars. Ford tried this styling when they bought one of their large sedans to Europe and it killed this product. So the Lucid looks like an American car that Euopeans tend not to like, while the EQS is European styling, with some fast-back styling and I can understand why you don't like it.
I'm neither a fan of the EQS nor Lucid styling (esp their rears). Both of their rears are bloated and soft. I think much of it has to do with aerodynamics. EQS looks less luxurious and cheaper than the price suggests. If I had to choose a winner between both on exterior aesthetics alone, I'd say Lucid has the styling that will age better. EQS will be known as Mercedes' first EV effort (even though its a great car)
As neat as the EQS is it looks like a Honda Civic to be perfectly honest.
As an American, the lucid just looks too…sedany, like a grandpa car, lol
The problem with the EQS is the front. Looks like a dopey fish.
Lucid actually looks much much better than the merc.
@kyle get a sound meter and add that to reviews so their is data on cabin sound.
Btw what is the experience with degradation with etron? That. Charging curve has to come with a trade off. It's not like they have wildly different batteries than everyone else...?
I used the online configurator to spec out aTaycan 4 Cross Turismo and 4S model, and with the options I thought were important, I got prices of $107,470 and $123,290 respectively. If you go crazy with the options list, you can bring the price up substantially. For me, self-control is the key when shopping the options list! You also get 3 years of free 30 minute DC charging sessions at EA with the Taycan.
Ive watched all your videos, and the car that made you the happiest was the mustang Mach.e gt pe. The smile factor on that car wins easily. And for half the price!
You'll have to redo the comparison when Plaid has the track update and sound canceling. Otherwise can't judge Plaid in these comparisons. Great reviews as always. Nice to see competition in the space. I probably lean toward to Plaid for performance once all updates are finished and the EQ for comfortable cruising. The EQ is a bit of an eyesore for me so opens up opportunity for Lucid Air. I also like the driver assist side on Tesla. I wonder what they used at Nurburgring. Look forward to Cadillac and Lincoln joining the space and Korean, Japanese, Chinese makes.
This Tesla he is driving is NOISY !!! And Bouncing all over the road.
I'm with you on the yoke and no stalks situations with the Plaid Model S. Sadly doesn't make sense to me personally as well.
Imo I’d go with Lucid 👌
Did a 8300 mile, 13 state road trip in june, using EA. NFC tap to start the entire way, had 2 stops NFC didnt work over the entire trip, and i just opened app and swiped to start. EA is awesome.
The majority of car buying consumers are not "ready for an adventure" when it comes to charging an electric vehicle regardless of the charging speed of this vehicle or that vehicle. IMO the strength of Tesla is their charging network. Pull in to the space, put the charger in, wait for your desired charge, take charger out. Leave. Works like that 99.5% of the time. No worrying about taking out a card, billing, reliability, etc, etc. That's a huge selling point for those shopping for an EV.
If they open the charging network to other EV's that's great but I'm not interested in taking chances with other charging options or using a third party app to locate this charger, that charger, better route planner, etc. I'm willing to bet most other car buying consumers are not either. People want a no brainer driving experience.
Only if you care about long road trips, which is typically a rare use case for most people.
@@cypvh74 In US it's a big deal.
@@neeljavia2965 not really. Most trips over a few hundred miles, and people fly rather than drive. Families might do one road trip per year over a 200miles in a single day.
@@cypvh74 Dude if range on road trips wouldn't be an issue than EVs would have taken over much much sooner.
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Taycan CT is my dreamcar as well. My spec comes out to a reasonable 110k...lol
Greetings from Germany! Very balanced presentation, I am impressed. Guess what I drive...
Lucid Air ❤️
Thank you for your thoughts on all these awesome cars! I really have been enjoying your reviews of all of them and it is nice to get a quick overview of all at the same time. As a value proposition, is the Model 3 Performance still the best value?
Great analysis and comparison of the cars. Regarding charging network, I understand that Tesla may be opening up their network to the other manufacturers? It would be nice if you could discuss that in your weekly podcast with Tom and the other guys.
Only being considered in Europe at the moment
Great, kyle 👍
Are you going to review any of the GM cars/ trucks when they are released?
Would love to see you using the Nio ET7 next!
Did you test the plaid with 4 people inside? Because that makes it also a little slower than a car with only a driver ...
Got Rivian R1T and F150 EV on pre-order, will be getting whichever comes first.
I would love to get S450+ but I don't think I can afford that.
The Mercedes configurator has summer tires by default on the EQS450. You can have all seasons but you’ll sacrifice range. How does this compare to the other brands?
Everyone would most likely lose range on winter, all weather or all season tires. Nothing to do with the car, cold weather and snow tires just have worse rolling resistance and energy efficiency due to the way those tires have more cuts and thread blocks to provide more grip in snow and ice.
It is one thing often not talked or reported about. The rolling resistance and energy efficiency of the tires has large effect on EV range. So it does matter what tires come as stock, then again... one can change out the tires. So if the stock tires are bad one can improve range by switching them out to more efficient ones.
which is why pretty much all tire makers have started making EV specific more efficient tires. The loss of energy has always been there, but well with fuel cars it didn't matter so much given all the other vast in efficiencies.
I understand this issue has very little to do with the driving experience comparisons that Kyle has so ably described in this video, but I am wondering when we will have some additional information and specifications on the V2G (vehicle to grid) bilateral charging capability of the Lucid Air vehicles. Will the capabilities be close to what Ford has stated will be the V2G specifications of the F-150 Lightning? To my mind, this capability may be the deciding factor as to which vehicle (between the Plaid, Taycan, Mercedes, and Lucid) would be the best (and, perhaps, most practical) vehicle to own.