Cargo & Interior Space - Lucid Air vs Tesla Model S
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- Kyle takes you on a tour of the interior space, cabin room, front and rear seat comfort of the Tesla Model S and Lucid Air
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If the Model S was a precise, well handling car, then maybe a couple inch difference would matter, but it's not, so it doesn't. Seating position is a wannabe meme outside of actual racing anyway. I'm not saying some seating positions aren't better than others. I'm saying the people who worry about it in regards to commercial cars on public roads, are trying to be something they aren't. It simply makes very little difference when your carving up the canyon in your weekend car. I've owned many different cars and they've all had slightly different seating positions. I could nitpick and complain if that's who I was, but I adapted and painted the ideal line in whatever I was driving instead.
Imagine how cool a wagon version of the Lucid Air would be! It would totally 1-up the Model S in terms of cargo practicality.
Besides the base Air Pure (~$70k) released next year, the next announced Lucid is Gravity, an SUV, so more of a competitor to Model Y
#LUCIDCROSSTURISMO
@@phillyphil1513 Lucid Gravity, due to be released next year, will be most interesting...
Amazing comparison. You've really covered everything in detail.
Thanks for throwing this together
Another awesome detailed comparison
Thanks out of spec 😊
Great comparison. Thank you for your reviews!
The leather seats on my 2002 Lincoln (20 years old) are just fine. I think that if you use full-grain (not just the outer half of the skin) it's plenty durable. At Lucid's price point I would hope they do that.
I use the ski pass thru as a fishing pole pass thru. Thanks for the video
Hello Kyle I use the Ski Pass though all the time in my Model Y. Actually a huge reason I picked it was the 40/20/40 split seats. I can have 4 people in the car with 4 sets of skis and boots no problem and don't have to have a roof rack.
Have you had XC skis in there? They get quite long, up to 205cm or so bags. It's super hard to get rear loading length specs on cars nowadays. Really I want to know how long a mattress can be accomodated somewhat flat, given an extra suppord over the rear seats' foot well.
Smart forfour EQ does the same thing with the rear doors 90 degrees. Pretty awesome
Software issues won’t last forever, i would choose LUCID every time 🤩
Lucid is better than Mercedes and Tesla in interior materials
But it's over 3 months not just 2 weeks and nothing solved
Also I think Mercedes is better than lucid as they have good software and more buttons not like Tesla or lucid
Good comparison! One thing I was hoping to see that wasn't addressed was a comparison of how well the driver's seats can adjust to accomodate very tall (like 6'8") people.
tbf you are literally a 1/1000 case.
I’d love to see a side by side efficiency test between the lucid and your dads model s lr
Would be great to see the EQS vs these two as well.
Me agree. Model 3 with a hatch will be so nice
New software came out not long after this video posted.It's great.
The reason why the lucid has that annoyingly placed sun visor is because you can only do what the model x did on SUV’s. Sedans aren’t allowed to have what the model x has.
How do you play games in the rear of the Plaid? That was one reason I bought it so the kids would have something to do but have yet been able to figure it out.
I have the same seating position problem with the model 3. When I put the seat low enough to see under the sun visor I’m literally sitting on the floor of the car. I’m also over 6’.
Please make a video on adding back the stocks on the model s, the touchbuttons are driving me crazy!
I’ve gotten used to it and like it now 😅. If they activate the center horn, I’m good.
I dont think that people only use it as a ski pass through, it can be useful for reachint in and grabbing things from the trunk instead of leaning over the middle seat or opening thr trunk.
Wondering if the ski pass through can carry a snowboard
Nice watch... Nice cars... I'm into it
The smaller battery Lucid will have the scalloped floor for more leg room.
The lower floor version is only on the Pure because they remove battery pack modules from that section of the floor.
- And the Air Touring (non "Grand")
Yeah, it looks like Lucid has less storage because it has more battery.
touring too 😉
Is the glass roof very hot in the sunny days? I live in Florida Im wondering whether to have the glass roof. Thanks
I live in Florida. My Lucid does not get hot
@@debragherman6196 thanks. But it's winter now, I wonder how it works in summer… But my car is coming, so excited
My Lucid is great, but I do have a 30% tint on the glass roof. Also in Florida
@@TheGamingArt Hi, Did you tint the roof after delivery?
@@debragherman6196 I almost immediately tinted it after delivery alongside my PPF.
I just can't choose the lucid, its looks and feels for old people. great review
Dude I love the yoke. Can’t see myself going back
Same! I thought I would hate it but it’s so nice driving with it. I would choose it now if they offered a regular wheel option
About the Lucid frunk... you just touch it with your pinkie as it comes down, and it goes up again. No need for alarm or warnings or whatever.
what about compareing with FF91
Tip: show how far the passenger seat moves forward to give the rear seated VIP leg room. In a simple Uber I tend to sit quite dentely with HUGELY long legs. I just ask the driver to get the passenger seat all the way forward.
As of now, no other car manufacturer can touch Teslas software and UI. Tesla’s the only auto manufacturer that I actually enjoy the software. Competition is good for Tesla. This will hopefully push them to make their vehicles better and eventually add things, such as massaging seats (which I would love). Much like Apple and how their user experience is clean and consistent, that’s what Tesla is. No other automaker can compare at this time. And for this reason I would only chose a Tesla. Be interesting how my opinions on this will either continue to hold or even change 5-10 years down the road.
I would agree. I test drove the bmw iX and i4m50…that software felt like I went back in time. The reviews of the lucid so far seems like the software might be ok? Idk
Once Lucid fixes the basics in the software and adds CarPlay, it will succeed the Tesla software experience.
Don’t compare Tesla with Apple.
Steve is turning in his grave.
UI of software is one thing, but integrating a fantastic product design WITH a UI to complement it, is totally another.
Tesla’s build quality and product design are worse than most car companies in their segment.
Agree completely. I have an Etron and Model S. The software is beyond remarkable in the Tesla while the Etron sucks. I can’t even get my app to work most times but the Audi wins hands down in build quality.
I wish the 3 had the same trunk hatch back like the S
did the model S get repaired?
Lucid Air Pure w/AWD dual motor ($5500) best value in EV's 406mile range with 620hp 0-60 3.4 seconds.........I want
I would buy a Lucid if they had a service center in Minnesota. So Model S for me it is.
Great video, but bro. You made it sound like the Frunk on the Lucid could kill someone when it comes down or something😂. You were so dramatic with that.. lol
What is the name of the rims on your Tesla Model S? I know you have said it 100 times before..
The air is way better than S.
Ah-ha! The Peter Rawlinson "two weeks"! 😂
So it isn't just an Elon Musk thing.
Just to let you guys aware. This car was just released less than 1 yr ago. Be patient with the improvements. LOL
So especially considering the price, the Tesla is the clear winner for me.
Love your videos Kyle .. but we finally disagree on something. I would take Apple CarPlay any day over Tesla's interface. I want my own music app of choice, my own calendar, my own podcast app, etc, etc. Tesla and Rivian ... add CarPlay (and Android Auto).
The injection molded frunk and front end module on the Lucid is a thing of beauty.
The tech talk video was a joy to watch
The heated/massaging front seats in the Lucid are wicked. I don't want to get out of my Air Grand Touring when I arrive at my destination LOL
The Lucid visors look so weird stuck on the glass
7:42 Section 5200 of the California Vehicle Code: "(a) When two license plates are issued by the department for use upon a vehicle, they shall be attached to the vehicle for which they were issued, one in the front and the other in the rear." Why is this plate inside the vehicle and not attached to the front as required by law?
Cause it looks horrible. I live in Colorado and will never put one on my model Y.
@@mkivsupra2095 I live in Germany. Here in Germany the cops would pull me over at least once a week if I had no front plate. Would be kind of expensive over the years and if they pull you over several times for not displaying a front plate they can even seize the vehicle until you finally comply and put it on. I hope for you and Kyle that Colorado cops are not that strict about it.
I thought there was active noise cancellation in the 2021+ Model S.
Ya, there is for the refresh
So, I still haven't decided if to get another Tesla Model 3P, or a Tesla Model S LR.
I just went from a 3P to Plaid. I always wanted the S but was waiting for a refresh. The S LR would be the better car for my taste and use. Build quality noticeably better, air suspension, hatchback trunk way better. The only reason I’d recommend a 3P instead would be price and if you wanted the sportier handling and size.
@@PraxicThorn Thanks for feedback. I need to test drive the S eventually so I know the handling difference. I had one as a loner once and initially felt it was too big. But I think I was getting used to it.
Lucid trunk opening height is too small for a medium size box, so you have to place it on back seat. Model S does not have this problem. I like large trunk for his/hers golf clubs plus luggage. Sedans have better style than cross-over SUVs.
Lucid has rear seat grab handles. Model S does not. My senior Dad absolutely needs grab handles.
One screen to rule them all
Looks horrible on the Tesla.
Looks like someone glued an ipad to a dash.
Which people may like, but in my opinion is a lazy design and almost ugly.
20:50 thats normal, and if you then go into an ICE car (i.e. 5 series) you however feel like you sit lower in the S......... its all artifical.
I think the multiple screens and tactile controls are a great idea.
I'm a professional photographer, one thing that separates a professional camera from a consumer camera is the immediate accessibility to change a setting without going through menus etc.. I think that's what lucid was shorting for and I think they are aiming at more senior buyers. Young people are more into sporty not luxury.
I don't like center big screens. I think Teslas look like offices inside and one reason is because of that center flat screen. When I'm at work for 7-9 hour all I do is interact with a screen and go through menus. I don't need that experience in my car. I'd rather have dedicated, simple controls, spaced out for the function of the car. All this talk about UIs in cars doesn't thrill me because a good user experience is one you don't think about. I think car manufacturers should get back to making car dashboards and consoles. It's not even about age more than function. Cars and GUI computers have different functions. The GUI computer is made to look at when you use it. The car is made to look at the road and drive it, not interact with its screens which is a distraction.
I like my original RWD Model S frunk - big enough to fit a spare tire.
When are y'all going to take the Ionic NOLA to Chicago trip and disprove the Wall Street Journal story that gets quoted so dang often?
oh god that windscreen will be expensive af to replace on the Lucid
I’d prefer a center display that raises and lowers from the dashboard whenever you wish since.
The fact that the display is oriented at such a low angle means there’s no intent for multimedia consumption like Tesla’s entertainment apps. Huge disappointment especially if they’re trying to sell people on “Surreal Sound Pro” which is a $4K upgrade to the existing sound system.
I would take the Lucid.. though I would prefer a hatchback also.
I would love Android Auto, and Car Play. I MUST use my phone for work... It handles the Navigation.. I would want it to mirror the nav up on the big screen.
i think navigation apps should be on the car's OS imo and we shouldn't have to use our phones for that
@@a-don13
Why not have the ability to use either. More choices are always better than less.
I do gig work. The apps are on the phone, don't have a choice about that. What I do have a choice about is whether or not I drive a car that automatically syncs with my phone and when the phone navigates automatically to the next destination it pops up on the big screen in the car. Got to have the phone sitting in front of me on a mount regardless of what car it is. But having the bigger screen would help. Not going to sit there and manually input navigation points into the cars nav each time I go to a new pickup location or drop off.
Plus the phone is easier to use in the first place. All I got to do is say "Ok Google.... Navigate to XYZ, or call XYZ." And it automatically does it."
@@kens97sto171 but if Uber is on say.. the upcoming Tesla app store on the car, all you need is your account to be signed in on it and you wouldn't even have to look at your car to navigate anywhere, for work or otherwise. An app store is coming not just for Tesla but apple's new auto OS aswell.
Android auto and apple carplay were always transition solutions, not permanent ones.
Lucid is my next EV!
Full disclosure: I have a refresh Model S but I just don’t find anything appealing about the Lucid. Just looks thick and heavy. Model S is light and airy - clean. Probably just an example of either you love the Tesla aesthetic or hate it…
I think you should have mentioned the price in more detail so viewers can make a better judgement on if the extra cost of this Lucid justifies the additional expenses. In relation to that the price comparison should be between the Model S Long Range v this Lucid model. The Lucid as about $45,000 more then a model S LR or put it another way you could pretty much get a model S and model 3 for the same cost as this Lucid.
You are wrong tesla is more expensive. The plaid will reach 159k with all the options. In the other hand the lucid comes fully loaded for 154k and a 7k tax credit.
TBH most of the comparison is about space, and that doesn't change much throughout the Lucid or Model S range. I would say the largest Impact would be glass roof lacking in the cheapest Lucid and additional foot space in the lower range models. The lucid Air has quite a wide price range 88k to 250k and the Model S 105K to 160k.
Also I would suggest the Air Touring with the glass roof is a more direct comparison with the Model S long range that is about a 10k premium not 45K. This assumes you can get them both delivered in a reasonable time frame.
@@V8V88 huggybear was talking about the Model S Long Range being a bunch cheaper than the Lucid in this video. Instead of getting the Lucid in this video you could get a Model S Long Range plus a Model 3 Rear Wheel Drive.
@@V8V88 Tesla Model S Long Range could be as low as $104,990. Model 3 Rear Wheels Drive as low as $46,990. The Lucid in this video is about $150,000.
@@scottbreseke716 then compare the model s long range with lucid Air pure. The tesla would cost you 100k and lucid Air would cost you 88k and have a better range. If you compare them right you will find out tesla is more expensive.
Maybe you need a mirror mounted on that sun visor to make that sun visor issue better. Or wear a cap with a visor so you don't see the car's sun visor. Or lean that front seat back a bit. Elon Musk is 6'2".
I just can’t see why someone would pick the Lucid over the Mercedes EQS. What am I missing?
Mercedes does not offer you 500mi of range and a bonkers of 800+hp at the SAME time !
Along with super luggage space.
I prefer a trunk. After riding in many SUVs and hatchback type of vehicles, trunks are quieter inside and the cars feel more luxurious as hatchbacks will make noise even in the most expensive vehicles. Framed doors are better too for noise isolation as well as a more solid thunk when closed. I'll forego the practicality of the hatch. I don't like black interiors and I don't necessarily like white ones either. I like gray or pale blue, dark brown with tan accents or soft colors. I don't see a lot of contrast in the Lucid. I do like the Lucid's use of curved glass and not putting everything in a center screen (no matter how good it is, a screen is not the purpose of driving and drivers should interact with the road, not a screen). The S looks modern and dated at the same time. It's a newly designed interior in an older frame. The Lucid is a newer design, that's obvious, and is fairly conservative. Neither of these are my cars but I'd settle on the Lucid I guess. The S drives pretty well (ride way better than the 3, for instance, and quieter) and I for one think the performance is overkill. But you don't have to use it all. The interior quality on this particular car is problematic and the hit or miss aspect of Tesla quality is something that needs improvement. Maybe spend more time making the car rather than cost cutting and trying to make cars so quickly. And, I for one, don't like that Tesla only comes in a black or white (or both) interior. No warmth. Boring and obvious cost cutting. And in an over 100K car.
Model S has cream interior too. Style is obviously subjective but the Lucid just looks like an older persons car to me. Not aggressive looking enough for me 🤷♂️
@@PraxicThorn Thanks, I stand corrected about the Model S's color choices. Cream does warm the car up some.
I think overall the Model S is more attractive, the exterior at least. The interior is clean but needs more fine details to feel more upscale. It can still be clean but design details matter. Lucid's look is OK, at least it looks like a sedan though it strangely doesn't look as aerodynamic as it probably is.
"Model 3 with a hatch, that would be one of the perfect cars right there" Isn't that a Model Y?
The steering wheel in the Model S is definitely atrocious and a big miss, but I don't see the issue with stalk-less design. I would have thought the conversation would have progressed past stalk-less designs after the initial shock and discord caused by Ferrari when they first implemented it. Stalk-less seems like a non-issue. Tesla's implementation of it, though? That's a different argument altogether.
The lackluster software on Lucid is a dealbreaker for me. Also the design does nothing for me. That’s just me though! I love that we have so many options.
Lucid just needs to fix some niggles and offer an estate. How GOOD would this be with an estate? Raise those rear seats about 2 inches and ideally make that motorized to offer head space when needed.
If Lucid go the way of all EV makers (lead by tesla) and refuse to sell what people actually want, which chop shop would be best placed for a conversion? It's been done to Model S's as well. Ideally a chop shop would have a few customers lined up to make it a somewhat reasonable endeavor. I'd do it to an EQS (the renders are so nice for an estate), but it lacks the frunk and that's just enraging in such a posh car. The driver should keep his bags on the other side of the car, right?
Hopefully software update 2.0 today fixed a lot of the bugs 🤞
Will be interesting to see when the Lucid Air Pure comes out (starts ~$70k+). Besides the charging network, hard to see Tesla having any competitive advantage left
It will also not be as nice as inside as the GT and not have the range either. And I'll bet it won't stay at $70k unless u already ordered it now.
@@AK-zd6yr Well it is the base model. Still, will be nicer interior than any Tesla
@@jarrodf_ I would have to disagree there but I guess 'nice interior " is a matter of opinion. The AGT's interior doesn't impress me. It's already dated.
@@sabor504 I agree completely! We can't all drive the same car.
Obviously just my opinion but I just don’t have any interest in a Lucid. I don’t like the exterior or the interior. It’s a nice car for sure but not my taste. Hope they do well though. Competition is great
for how expensive the lucid is, the interior quality feels really sub par to me.
Same goes for the Model S. AMG prices and 90s Hyundai plastic interiors. The Lucid has far higher quality materials.
5:20 Bah, I want to see the actual Lucid decapitato.....vid. lol.
If only the trunk opening of lucid could be like Tesla 😢
Tesla Model S every time! 😃💪
It looks good, doesn't it?
@@scottbreseke716 💯 agree Scott
@@sabor504 I mean it's still a lovely car I wouldn't cry if I had a lucid air 😂👍
Fanboyyyyyyyyyyyyy
@@harriska yesssssiiiiiiiiiir
A bit later, but I believe that the Plaid actually has higher seats than the long range specifically because of it's speed.
Unpopular opinion, the Tesla Model S looks sleeker and better looking overall than the Lucid Air. Lucid Air is giving me old person or Lincoln vibes.
no rear trunk?! wowwwwww
Sketchy? Other reviewers are constantly complaining how slow hatches go up or down.
If my dad pushed that button, I’d bet money that it would hit him. I like the drop down speed but the start delay need a bit more
The Lucid's clamshells just look so *strange* - especially the rear hatch. So frickin' strange looking when open.
The Lucid looks an old man’s Buick.
Kyle's dad drives a model S
Lol, the EV Roadmaster for those with deep pockets.
yeah it does have that look but I still like it
@@rzu7120 The Model S keeps Dave looking young.
100%😂
Nice double $100k+ cars!!!! LOL!!
SHAQ drive a model S but some how it’s too small for this guy
The Lucid has a better trunk i prefer it and the way the boot opens in back gives better cover in the rain
Lucid doesn't have the largest HEPA filter like Tesla does. Tesla also has the biggest computer of all autos. Also, the Lucid has smaller wheel wells for their skinny wheels.
Poor ergonomics, crap sw and you look like you're driving a Buick (nod to earlier commenter on that). Plus trunk vs hatch way less practicality loading larger items as a daily use car. I'd go S or look at Mercedes and BMW options if you want that luxo cruiser interior. I guess Lucid owners really want range and to have a car that won't be seen often on the road.
Lucid is the more practical car for someone spending that kind of money. Better built and nearly as fast
Still no reusable Starbucks cup…
Leather is natural for real men.
Skin cream can help them.
The "affordable" EVs are featured.
Great comparison!
When you mentioned the Door handles I remembered this video about their issues and how they solved them. ua-cam.com/video/Bea4FS-zDzc/v-deo.html
I went on a 3 day trip with a Lucid and boy what a disappointment, The infotainment system worked on it's on schedule and tbh feels dated. The car as a whole just didn't feel anywhere near a 150k+ car especially when you consider the panel gaps and already dated feeling interior. Just seems like they will always be behind the curve, but also charge a premium.
Tesla may not use the highest quality materials, but the execution is done right from my time with them. To me the Minimalist swedish living room feeling I get from them is calming and less gimmicky than the Lucid imo. Plus the user interface is like comparing an iPhone to a blackberry (no exaggeration)
I personally would go for the Model X and be done with it.
Tesla is not a Swedish like design IMO. Coming from Volvo/Polestar, Tesla is very much a tech, USA type of experience. Also, can Tesla even make a gray interior and offer interior colors? Just black and white or black seems very cost cutting IMO.
The Lucid, to my eyes, looks fresher and newer. Even with the updated, very improved S/X interior, there are aspects of it that look dated as it still is a 10 year old design. I understand the GUI isn't as good but GUIs can be updated.
The interior is sensational. But each to one's own
@Shawn S, had the Lucid AGT for a weekend recently. I agree with you completely! Very underwhelmed by the experience.
If I were over 60 I’d take the Lucid no questions.
stop comparing lucid with Tesla, its not the same segment. you can only do Benz, bmw and Audi ❤👍☺
I would have to disagree with you on some of your Lucid observations. First, the low roof is a bigger problem getting in and out than u make out. I am 6ft 4in and hitting ur head on the roof when u get in and out is a real thing.
Secondly, the view is pretty weird out of the Lucid. That sun visor that u mentioned in passing, narrows ur view out to the space between it and the dashboard. In other words, very slim. The extended windscreen doesn't come into view, really.
I was waiting for you to try and charge your phone in the Lucid. Almost impossible. The worst phone charger design, maybe in the entire industry.
The massage function makes for some very uncomfortable seats! I'd always have that function off.
While I agree that the Lucid drives smoother and more quietly than the S, the difference is NOT night and day like u imply.
You already mentioned the software but I was particularly disappointed in the stereo system. The implementation is rubbish (explains why they are trying to implement ACP) and the sound production is a nothingburger.
Lol 😂
Don’t forget the price difference: 154‘000$ for the Lucid Grand Touring, and 128‘000$ for a Model S Plaid
Well you can have air touring for less than 110k
The plaid will reach 159k with all the options. In the other hand the lucid comes fully loaded for 154k and a 7k tax credit.
I can tell you hvae no idea about cars. The 128k will get you a plaid without even an autopilot. What's the point of buying a Tesla without autopilot!!!
@@V8V88 Autopilot comes standard on Model S. Perhaps you're thinking about Enhanced Autopilot or Full Self Driving.
Who cares if you can buy a car of 100k what’s 154k to you. Also brakes are bad for plaid and comes with 20k upgrade.
The Model S doorhandles have been COMPLETELY revamped over the years and work (apart from the geometry) totally different nowadays. (see a video by superfastmatt)
Not sure emphasizing unreliability on a Plaid car makes sense.
Our passenger one is rubbing and not working properly
@@OutofSpecReviews Ah, sorry to hear. NUMMI fit&finish and QC issues are forever I guess - hope SC or Ranger will fix it soon..
The new mechanics/electronics look rather bulletproof compared to early Model S.
HOW MUCH TO CHARGE EACH? FRIEND HAS TESLA .. CRACKED WINDSHIELD ... 3 MOS TO DELIVER!! THINGS N THINGS!
you forgot to mention the difference in price. Maybe the Lucid has better quality materials because you pay a lot more for the car.