Man that camera lens was annoying there! Thankfully it doesn’t last too long. I’m still blown away by that acceleration! However, as I always say, there’s more to performance than straight line. I’m really looking forward to track mode, active noise cancellation, and torque vectoring to be updated to the car. Of course, I’ll drive it again after some updates! Insane machine, truly. Also, a huge thanks to Brandon (Tesla Flex) for loaning this car! He’s now on UA-cam so check out this link: ua-cam.com/channels/IMasKY5YlgzcOmxVW4loaw.html
Software can add torque vectoring and power acceleration in the turns but not without a track pack brake upgrade and shouldn’t it have come with that as an option package? If that’s all it lacked it would be doable but it’s not going to get quieter or more enjoyable even with a driver stalk and round wheel. I’ve heard it said that a one trick pony charms for only so long. That road noise is constant and make the Air sound like the long distance EV choice and the EQS a bank vault solidity that lets you escape the here and now noises along your daily commute. The Taycan (Cross Turismo😍) and RS eTron GT the curvy road drivers choice and long trip pleasurable haulers. With a pack of dogs it’s the Cross Turismo with rear steering hands down. 🎯
I like your long in-depth driving reviews, very articulate on the little things that are actually important to owning the car everyday. Too many other reviews focus on track which I will never be on.
Someone finally beat Thomas Majchrzak a German car enthusiast on Autogefühl with longwinded reviews. The last two, Mercedes EQS & Tesla Plaid were awesome.
@@dimaroscadallacqua9926 well maybe in time. I didn’t initially like the taycan or the model s for that matter, but now I think they are both very good looking cars. Regarding interior, I’m sure quality is top notch. I would just have liked them to dial down the lights and screens… its a bit too much, and I actually prefer the standard set up to the hyperscreen.
@@nilsfrederiksen2840 Yes, I totally agree about the interior light (but fortunately you can turn them off), speaking of screens , yeah man, I just don’t like the passenger screen, 2 are ok, but 3 are overkill. Other than that, I love it, especially the EQS 53AMG.
Awesome review Kyle! What I so appreciate is your transparency (and vulnerability) as you talk about vehicles. Your expertise always comes through. Thank you!
It took me a while of watching Kyle to understand that we just don't require the same things. Once I got over that, I can appreciate his opinions. He is much more objective than I gave him credit for. Great video man.
Thanks for watching! As I always say, there’s a reason we have more than one car review channel. Different opinions from many people can help shape a buying decision.
People who never rode a motorcycle are really surprised in this car..for people who don't or can't ride much anymore because of back problems or for whatever reason will love this! And just people who love roller-coasters... lol
Kudos Kyle, for keeping your financials independent from car companies! I'd hope, people would appreciate honest reviews more and not fall for YT influencer bs! I wonder, where Tesla is going from here. Is there even more potential for an even farster car?
@@EVPaddy than you own something people don't value anymore it seems, called integrity. Probably worth mentioning, in the long run every investor should be critical towards own investments...
@@hankmoody7521 to be honest, I knew a lot less about Elon Musk when I bought the stock :) Not sure I'd buy again.. well today I wouldn't buy of course anyway because I'm very sure this is a bubble that will eventually burst. But I hope it still gets a little bigger. But yes, why would you not criticise a company you own stock of. I want them to improve. I want their quality to improve and they have to get rid of those ridiculous quirks that serve nothing else than Musk's ego.
@@ehudk215 He has never concluded that any car is perfect so don’t come here and lie just because your feelings are hurt that someone dares to point out negatives about a Tesla.
I'm not even interested in this car and yet i watched the whole review with rapt attention. Great job. Way more nuanced and interesting than the usual Tesla reviews.
It's like the model 3. It wasn't the best around the corners. Then they released track Mode V2 and it's phenomenal. So I hope that's the plan with the plaid.
Thank you for being thorough and honest in all your reviews! I’ve been watching your videos for a couple of years and I have come to appreciate how you point out the flaws and attributes of all the cars you drive … always with a smile on your face. I love your enthusiasm for cars and your open-mindedness towards their form factor and power train. I truly hope the U.S. auto industry is paying attention!
Great honest review. Love the way you mention to be careful that you have no one in front of you when you floor it, for I have same issue on seriously quick motorcycles.
hi from the UK, been watching your channel for while now and must say absolutely loving your reviews and your personality lol, like this review you just summed the tesla Vs other EVs agreement, just love all cars for what they are, pls keep up the good work
How do you currently drive? I was always taught to drive with one hand when low speed turning. It keeps your hands from getting tangled and makes for smoother maneuvering. They used to see a ball thing you can attach to steering wheels to help turn them easier with one hand. I usually have my palm at the top of the steering wheel so turning at the bottom of the yoke would take time getting used to.
yoke, the "solution" to a problem that didn't really exist BTW, the yoke is not an issue 99.9% of the time, it is that emergency situation when you need to grab on to something and it is just not there.
Hopefully someone makes an aftermarket steering wheel. That yoke was a horrible idea and a safety issue for me. Once they do I will order one. At least should have been an option.
it's perfectly fine. you get used to it quickly. zero safety risk. zero annoyance. people always reject the unfamiliar at first, that's all these complaints are.
@@BrowncoatFairy Yeah you might be right. It's the old knight rider wheel I saw on TV in the early 80's. It was cool back then because I was a kid..😂. As an adult ; I am like that doesn't look safe.
@@BrowncoatFairy You're so wrong. Round steering wheels on a car with this type of steering ratio is just superior compared to "yokes". "yokes" have their places in real racing cars where you have a much tighter steering ratio so that you dont need to turn it more than 180 degrees or simply because on a track you don't have intersections, parking lots and generally tight turning spots. On a car like this it's just a big dumb compromise. Ask yourself why so many car companies don't put these type of steering wheels from their racing cars on a street cars.
I’d like to know which car of similar interior dimensions is better at shredding roads? I’m looking at a five passenger family hatchback they can also hold my bike and still destroy anything on the road. Just curious…
@34:40 is where I got the answer I needed. This is a muscle car, for the same kind of driver who'd buy a Hellcat. Stupid amounts of acceleration (enthusiast or not that's really fun), but in terms of its ability to provide good feedback, feel somewhat light on its wheels, and be rewarding to drive in situations beyond straight lines, it doesn't hold up to a properly sorted chassis.
Most Americans don't actually know how to drive in the twisties or even find it fun. I see the Plaid appealing to the same mentality that made the recent supercharged Dodge sedans popular, "Hey you guys, Watch this!" I drive (or ride) fast on certain lonely twisty roads I know or on track. I've driven and owned lots of fast cars but never had more fun than diving into corners fender to fender on track with Miatas (or Ducatis). After the _MotorTrend_ review I have been looking forward to you taking a Lucid GT up your mountain. I have a Lucid GT reserved but was impressed by your EQS review. Test drives in my future I suppose. I like to travel across the country and those two seem valid comfortable cruisers. One day I *really* hope to see that electric Miata or even an electric 718.
This is definitely the vehicle I’d buy if I had the money. One of the best ev’s and cars you can get right now in my opinion. Though the EQS you just reviewed is very nice as well but Tesla offers the supercharger network and such good software
It's good for daily driving, but should be (much) stronger when throwing it through windy roads or even on the Autobahn when decelerating from high speeds.
I think for athletic backroad driving, sport or even chill is superior to plaid mode. The plaid drive mode has too much power (insane levels of power) and it just shuts down any on-throttle during steering inputs. Probably will be fixed with a new sw update. The car is actually one of the best handling 4800lb cars out there, it just gets locked down in plaid mode because of oversensitive stability control.
Its great to have adequate competition from Manufacturers like Lucid Ford VW etc.. Competition breeds innovation and excellence which is great for us customers.
Tesla tunes this stuff for the Average Joe. Joe Sixpak doesn't know how to drive a performance car on a challenging roadway. Tesla doesn't want Joe Sikpak to kill himself with too much horsepower the first time he drives it on a twisty road. Joe lives to drink another day.
The best car for a driving enthusiast on public roads, is without a doubt the Miata. Why? Because you can use the total potential of the car on public roads, almost all of the time, have a blast and actually live to enjoy it. I know the 23 vet Z is all that, but you could really only ring it out on a track. And when I say Miata I mean an old one, that is totally analog, no electric steering or handling crap, preferably the 97 which has the most powerr of the first model, a vanishing breed, a car you can thrash day after day, year after year, and will still run great with a couple hundred thousand on it. Of course the 03 S2000 is great if you are the kind of person who doesn't care about torque but loves the power of 9k, but they have gotten ridiculously expensive and actually, in the real world, the Miata is more fun to live with. Oh yeh, and until recently you could get a cherry one for around five grand.
Hennessey said in his Model S Plaid review that the plaid needs breaks. Not made for performance driving because the brakes fade like mad. Tesla needs to offer a Brembo brake package with a round steering wheel option.
I think the audio adaptive noise cancelling is still in software development and will come out maybe when they have more data. Not 100 percent on timing but it's definitely coming
Elon responded to a tweet saying that they aren’t going to do any sort of track pack for the Plaid. Sounds like it doesn’t make sense financially for them. Pretty disappointing that they didn’t beef up the brakes on a 1000HP car.
If you can't be bothered to get a custom brakes yourself what kind of a track/speed enthusiast are you? I'm sure you can afford it if you ARE comparing it to a Taycan because the price difference. And as for everyday drivers(and there is way more of us) like me the brake getting rusty(because hardly ever gets used) is the problem LOL.
@@DarkWing494 You need to drive a car with good upgraded brakes from the factory. The M2 Competition I drove had amazing factory steel brakes. The GT4 I drove with carbon ceramics were also great. Kyle said the brakes on the Plaid were cooked by turn two.
I Think track mode software update will fix most of your complaints about the Plaid's handling and braking, just like in the Model 3, you'll be able to set the front/rear power delivery, reduce stability control that keeps braking in the corners and heating up the brakes, set the regen to be more powerful (M3P does that) to take stress out of the brakes and make them last longer without heavy fading, and probably with the 2 rear motors you'll even be able to control and set to different levels the torque vectoring! On top of that there could be some space to further improve the suspension via software updates. For the type of car, i think the Plaid already does well in the canyons, you are an experienced and fast driver! And it's cool it will further improve with software updates! And the price... you could swap the yoke, new rims and tyres, full custom racing suspension, carboceramic brakes with 6 piston calipers, racing seats, and you still wouldn't spend half the price difference between Plaid S and a Taycan with all those mods
We’ve just ordered some audio equipment to run a cabin decibel level test. But this doesn’t tell the full story of different frequencies of noise and will be more of an indication rather than a full scientific reading
@@OutofSpecReviews As an audio person, I would suggest using A as well as C weighting, and trying to standardize it as much as possible by using the same exact roads and noting wind and weather conditions. Car NVH is ultimately way more complicated than that, which is why I place more importance on your gut impressions than an SPL meter.
One hand steering works perfectly and efficiently with the yoke for significant direction changes of any sort. The yoke is a paradigm shift and I recommend getting used to one hand rather than perseverating over traditionally shaped wheel's hand over hand. The yoke really gets the steering wheel out of the way.
Teslas really need a "High" mode for regen. I hardly ever use the friction brakes on my Model Y, but I would use them less if max regen was more than 85 kW, and would approach curves faster if max regen was upwards of 120 kW.
If you ever get a chance try the Bolt’s regen- drive in L mode and use the paddle behind the steering wheel on the left. It’s so much fun in city traffic with the strong regen and front wheel driving torque steer that you have to wrestle with a bit. You can even be holding the steering wheel paddle and simultaneously press the accelerator and control the amount of regen that way as well. Sure we love our Tesla, but for city stuff the Bolt’s a blast. It’s my beater EV.
I'm not sure what's going on with the sound. Everyone else keeps saying the sound is super quiet. You didn't mention anything about the sound system ...
Great review. Love the honesty. I do think the Tesla UI is one of the most underrated parts of the brand. It’s more intuitive than anything else and it’s not even close. I’m sure plenty of people get used to the yoke but, what’s the benefit? Unique ≠ innovation
Completely agree with the UI thing and the yoke. At first I thought it would be a situation like when the Model 3 came out and had no screen in front of you and people were freaking out over nothing it’s still really intuitive but nope I test drove a Plaid and I don’t think I could get used to it. Especially in a Model X makes even less sense to me that’s a Whole Foods mom car why would they want or need a yoke steering wheel?
@@mrnoname7370 your friend or whoever probably let you drive their plaid for a good 15 minutes. can’t get used to a yoke in that amount of time. try living with it and driving it daily to make a more valid conclusion.
@@EVPaddy you’re the reason progress is hindered in the world. always wanting to stick to the old and close-minded about trying something new. It’s funny that you have never sat in one, yet go around in the comments telling people there’s a fanboy defending the yoke lol. get a life.
I look forward with great anticipation to the inevitable light weight advanced batteries. That power with some lite weight and some aero would be hard to beat.
Been enjoying your videos 👍🏼 glad I found your channel going through Lucid reviews. Keep up the great work. Love your comment “about the EQS” haha 👀. Really looking forward to your assessment when you get your hands on a Lucid for a good drive.
Great review! I was following your european tour.. you have professionally grown up a lot. Good job! I was looking forward for a review like this one since I live in Switzerland and those streets are similar to the ones we have over here. A car, to me as to be funny on tight corner and at (relative) low speed. I love my M3P with modified suspensions, swaybar and brakes (never liked tesla's ones) but I was wondering if the plaid could get near to the fun I have on my M3 and you are the only one who gave me the answer. Thank you so much 😉
just don't forget fast driving only in germany. too fast driving in switzerland and the car, driver license and a lot of money are gone. best regards from zürich.
@@Francis-yc9nc you forgot... PRISON! (that's the swiss law even if not applied strictly) I know, I don't care about driving fast in general (I always respect the speed limits) but the allowed 80km/h in the passes is often way too fast for those streets full of turns. Is where a tesla is nearly unbeatable and therefore is where a car (for me) as to be good. For the boring moments autopilot is in charge 😉
The yoke would be so good if they did like you said Kyle. If they would work on the turn radius of the wheel at most of 180 degrees, it would be such a breeze to use. I thought it did have the 180 degree turn at cap so there wouldnt be all the crazy steering with a half steering wheel.
Another great and honest review Kyle. I’m loving how with the new breeds of EVs, we’re seeing a unique characteristic in each. For example, if you want the acceleration king, you get plaid. If you want luxury above all else, may be get EQS or Lucid. If you want off-roading, wait for Rivian or Hummer or even Tycan.
I have heard for Pikes Peak the car was on some different version of software - not confirmed - and I have heard nothing on the Nürburgring car but I wonder if a pre-release version of track mode would allow it to stay within the stock class
@@KyleConner Thanks, funny to see Tesla spending so much effort idiot-proofing their vehicles, like with the FSD rollout with Safety Score. Maybe this is opportunity for open source firmware on inexpensive Chinese EV hardware to leapfrog, rather like nag-free openpilot compared to nagging Tesla Autopilot. Did Tesla Track Mode ever come out for Tesla Model Y? Here's hoping for Track Mode on the Cybertruck from the start.
No AR HUD, fully adaptable matrix LED headlights, cool light patterns, ambient lighting, etc. Nobody is ever honest about it. You mentioned the HUD and that's good.
Tesla uses brembos for Model 3 front brakes. I am guessing they use some sort of performance brakes on the Model S too. Obviously not meant for the track but I believe their are discussions about a track package coming in the future.
Yea, always wondered why everyone was complaining about brakes, then I looked into it and turns out all performance Teslas use nice big brembos but that’s not the issue, it’s the disc/rotor, if they had carbon ceramic discs the brakes would be comparable to Porsches. So yea that’s why
@@JoshTheFrosch07 Ya that makes sense. I'm pretty sure the stock ones are still perfect for the type of driving 95% of buyers use it for. Looks like Tesla is developing a track version for the other 5% of drivers who want to shred the canyons and tracks.
Great job Kyle. Thanks. And yeah, despite advertising the feature from even before it came out, torque vectoring is still an upcoming thing ... they did quietly say it's going to come soon in a software update.
Man that camera lens was annoying there! Thankfully it doesn’t last too long. I’m still blown away by that acceleration! However, as I always say, there’s more to performance than straight line. I’m really looking forward to track mode, active noise cancellation, and torque vectoring to be updated to the car. Of course, I’ll drive it again after some updates! Insane machine, truly.
Also, a huge thanks to Brandon (Tesla Flex) for loaning this car! He’s now on UA-cam so check out this link: ua-cam.com/channels/IMasKY5YlgzcOmxVW4loaw.html
As my son would Say Sick!
Software can add torque vectoring and power acceleration in the turns but not without a track pack brake upgrade and shouldn’t it have come with that as an option package? If that’s all it lacked it would be doable but it’s not going to get quieter or more enjoyable even with a driver stalk and round wheel. I’ve heard it said that a one trick pony charms for only so long. That road noise is constant and make the Air sound like the long distance EV choice and the EQS a bank vault solidity that lets you escape the here and now noises along your daily commute. The Taycan (Cross Turismo😍) and RS eTron GT the curvy road drivers choice and long trip pleasurable haulers. With a pack of dogs it’s the Cross Turismo with rear steering hands down. 🎯
elon the liar said active noise cancellation was coming a few months ago, dont hold your breath, he lies about everything
@@garyclark6747 then you have the charging problem.
ig videos look better then this.
I like your long in-depth driving reviews, very articulate on the little things that are actually important to owning the car everyday. Too many other reviews focus on track which I will never be on.
Someone finally beat Thomas Majchrzak a German car enthusiast on Autogefühl with longwinded reviews. The last two, Mercedes EQS & Tesla Plaid were awesome.
Kyle, what an experience reviewer. You are super natural in talking about the car effortlessly, your knowledge obviously showed right there...welldone
Most involving and informative driving impressions vid of the Plaid I've seen so far. Great job and thanks!
Kyle I'm for sure one of your viewers who appreciates the longer in depth honest reviews you provide. Keep up the great work!
53:21 EQS COMMENT HAD ME ROLLING ON THE FLOOR IN LAUGHTER!!! KYLE BRINGS LOW-KEY SAVAGE TO A NEW LEVEL
Unless you don’t have eyes!
Savage
Yea hilarious! But true! It has you turning your head for all the wrong reasons 😖
At first I hated the design of EQS, but is growing on me, the interior is far better than any EV's for me.
@@dimaroscadallacqua9926 well maybe in time. I didn’t initially like the taycan or the model s for that matter, but now I think they are both very good looking cars. Regarding interior, I’m sure quality is top notch. I would just have liked them to dial down the lights and screens… its a bit too much, and I actually prefer the standard set up to the hyperscreen.
@@nilsfrederiksen2840 Yes, I totally agree about the interior light (but fortunately you can turn them off), speaking of screens , yeah man, I just don’t like the passenger screen, 2 are ok, but 3 are overkill. Other than that, I love it, especially the EQS 53AMG.
Awesome review Kyle! What I so appreciate is your transparency (and vulnerability) as you talk about vehicles. Your expertise always comes through. Thank you!
It took me a while of watching Kyle to understand that we just don't require the same things. Once I got over that, I can appreciate his opinions. He is much more objective than I gave him credit for. Great video man.
Thanks for watching! As I always say, there’s a reason we have more than one car review channel. Different opinions from many people can help shape a buying decision.
Thank you for this video. I saw many Model S videos, but none were as detailed as yours for in-depth driving. Keep up the excellent work mate.
People who never rode a motorcycle are really surprised in this car..for people who don't or can't ride much anymore because of back problems or for whatever reason will love this! And just people who love roller-coasters... lol
Definitely the most in depth review of how this car drives and feels in detail so far. 👍
Kudos Kyle, for keeping your financials independent from car companies! I'd hope, people would appreciate honest reviews more and not fall for YT influencer bs! I wonder, where Tesla is going from here. Is there even more potential for an even farster car?
Roadster 2 of course
Lucid is topping 1,000hp with two motors...what happens with a third?
I own Tesla stock and still am very, very critical of them.
@@EVPaddy than you own something people don't value anymore it seems, called integrity. Probably worth mentioning, in the long run every investor should be critical towards own investments...
@@hankmoody7521 to be honest, I knew a lot less about Elon Musk when I bought the stock :) Not sure I'd buy again.. well today I wouldn't buy of course anyway because I'm very sure this is a bubble that will eventually burst. But I hope it still gets a little bigger. But yes, why would you not criticise a company you own stock of. I want them to improve. I want their quality to improve and they have to get rid of those ridiculous quirks that serve nothing else than Musk's ego.
As a Tesla owner of a '19 Raven S, love your candor and unbiased review. Keep up the good work.
When reviewing Teslas, but when it comes to VAG cars, he has no criticism at all, id4, etron, taycan etc… all perfect
@@ehudk215 He has never concluded that any car is perfect so don’t come here and lie just because your feelings are hurt that someone dares to point out negatives about a Tesla.
@@gbej1 ohhh did i hurt your hero?
@@ehudk215 Do you own a Tesla?
@@joemcdonough7509 that obvious? :)
that obvious? :)
I'm not even interested in this car and yet i watched the whole review with rapt attention. Great job. Way more nuanced and interesting than the usual Tesla reviews.
It's like the model 3. It wasn't the best around the corners. Then they released track Mode V2 and it's phenomenal. So I hope that's the plan with the plaid.
The review I’ve been waiting for
"EQS might be for someone who has no eyes." HAHA!! That made my day!:)
Thank you for being thorough and honest in all your reviews! I’ve been watching your videos for a couple of years and I have come to appreciate how you point out the flaws and attributes of all the cars you drive … always with a smile on your face. I love your enthusiasm for cars and your open-mindedness towards their form factor and power train. I truly hope the U.S. auto industry is paying attention!
Tesla charging network makes this car winner over lucid, Mercedes or any other car and their charging networks.
Fantastic review, Kyle!! Watched the whole thing from beginning to end. Really informative and very entertaining the same time! Subscribed for all!
I wonder if the noise will improve when they finalize and send out the noise cancelling feature.
I would say keep power but add a sports steering angle. So that your steering angle is similar to an open wheeler.
Heard your comment about the noise level, so I take it that the car didn't yet get the OTA active noise cancelling update.
Great honest review. Love the way you mention to be careful that you have no one in front of you when you floor it, for I have same issue on seriously quick motorcycles.
hi from the UK, been watching your channel for while now and must say absolutely loving your reviews and your personality lol, like this review you just summed the tesla Vs other EVs agreement, just love all cars for what they are, pls keep up the good work
"the seats don't feel bolted down... Just the kind of Tesla stuff you get" ....... Says it all
Just wanted to point out that the ventilated seats *are* cooled. They brought that back with the refresh.
Hi Kyle,
How do you compare this to Taycan 4s Cross Turismo/Sport Turismo? road noise, handling, and suspension wise and overall quality wise?
How do you currently drive? I was always taught to drive with one hand when low speed turning. It keeps your hands from getting tangled and makes for smoother maneuvering. They used to see a ball thing you can attach to steering wheels to help turn them easier with one hand. I usually have my palm at the top of the steering wheel so turning at the bottom of the yoke would take time getting used to.
yoke, the "solution" to a problem that didn't really exist
BTW, the yoke is not an issue 99.9% of the time, it is that emergency situation when you need to grab on to something and it is just not there.
How long before someone sues Tesla when they crash because of yoke.
10 years on and the Model S is still stunning.
Great review man! REALLY helpful for someone like me that has a P100D and upgrading to the Plaid
Tesla is basically the muscle car form this century, just very fast but only in a straight line.
Their handling is pretty good as well. Besides most sports cars are same as well
@@sa34w For how harsh the suspension is, a Tesla is not a good handeling car at all, it is actually pretty bad.
Hopefully someone makes an aftermarket steering wheel. That yoke was a horrible idea and a safety issue for me. Once they do I will order one. At least should have been an option.
it's perfectly fine. you get used to it quickly. zero safety risk. zero annoyance. people always reject the unfamiliar at first, that's all these complaints are.
@@BrowncoatFairy Yeah you might be right. It's the old knight rider wheel I saw on TV in the early 80's. It was cool back then because I was a kid..😂. As an adult ; I am like that doesn't look safe.
@@BrowncoatFairy You're so wrong. Round steering wheels on a car with this type of steering ratio is just superior compared to "yokes". "yokes" have their places in real racing cars where you have a much tighter steering ratio so that you dont need to turn it more than 180 degrees or simply because on a track you don't have intersections, parking lots and generally tight turning spots. On a car like this it's just a big dumb compromise. Ask yourself why so many car companies don't put these type of steering wheels from their racing cars on a street cars.
@@jeppewerring a lot of words from someone who hasn't even driven it. your opinion doesn't matter.
@@BrowncoatFairy it seems to me more that you lack common sense.
I’d like to know which car of similar interior dimensions is better at shredding roads? I’m looking at a five passenger family hatchback they can also hold my bike and still destroy anything on the road. Just curious…
None, most of the cars that have similar performance are toys with big engines or things with cages one them
@@sa34w I think he’s being sarcastic
@34:40 is where I got the answer I needed. This is a muscle car, for the same kind of driver who'd buy a Hellcat. Stupid amounts of acceleration (enthusiast or not that's really fun), but in terms of its ability to provide good feedback, feel somewhat light on its wheels, and be rewarding to drive in situations beyond straight lines, it doesn't hold up to a properly sorted chassis.
Most Americans don't actually know how to drive in the twisties or even find it fun. I see the Plaid appealing to the same mentality that made the recent supercharged Dodge sedans popular, "Hey you guys, Watch this!"
I drive (or ride) fast on certain lonely twisty roads I know or on track. I've driven and owned lots of fast cars but never had more fun than diving into corners fender to fender on track with Miatas (or Ducatis).
After the _MotorTrend_ review I have been looking forward to you taking a Lucid GT up your mountain.
I have a Lucid GT reserved but was impressed by your EQS review. Test drives in my future I suppose. I like to travel across the country and those two seem valid comfortable cruisers. One day I *really* hope to see that electric Miata or even an electric 718.
At least with the plaid, can you change the angle of the forward looking camera so that the A piller isn't taking up 50% of the screen?
This is definitely the vehicle I’d buy if I had the money. One of the best ev’s and cars you can get right now in my opinion. Though the EQS you just reviewed is very nice as well but Tesla offers the supercharger network and such good software
@Ferdi Posh no
Finaly a fan that admits Tesla regenerative braking isn't up to par. My Kona has stronger regenerative braking than any Tesla.
It's good for daily driving, but should be (much) stronger when throwing it through windy roads or even on the Autobahn when decelerating from high speeds.
Nice review; Tire noise with the Michelins 4s are annoying. I had to change my tires to contiSilent from Continental w/ foam inside. A BIG DIFFERENCE
Thanks for the fair and rounded review! Especially in-depth insights in roadholding and performance driving.
This is literally the best car you can buy.
You should not put it in dragstrip mode when you are not on a dragstrip. That's why you got wheelspin, as the car is assuming a more sticky surface.
Going 80 something past a 40 mph sign. 🤫 Shhhh. Best and most honest video I've seen on Tesla yet.
That was when the camera turned away from the speedo. The accelerating pitch did not stop at that time ;-)
Lol get about 6 points if you are lucky in the UK for that, and your insurance would massively increase
I think for athletic backroad driving, sport or even chill is superior to plaid mode. The plaid drive mode has too much power (insane levels of power) and it just shuts down any on-throttle during steering inputs. Probably will be fixed with a new sw update. The car is actually one of the best handling 4800lb cars out there, it just gets locked down in plaid mode because of oversensitive stability control.
Just Wait until plaid S with 4680 batteries.
Its great to have adequate competition from Manufacturers like Lucid Ford VW etc.. Competition breeds innovation and excellence which is great for us customers.
My favorite color of all time! Blue with violet pearls. Gorgeous!
Tesla tunes this stuff for the Average Joe. Joe Sixpak doesn't know how to drive a performance car on a challenging roadway. Tesla doesn't want Joe Sikpak to kill himself with too much horsepower the first time he drives it on a twisty road. Joe lives to drink another day.
The best car for a driving enthusiast on public roads, is without a doubt the Miata. Why? Because you can use the total potential of the car on public roads, almost all of the time, have a blast and actually live to enjoy it. I know the 23 vet Z is all that, but you could really only ring it out on a track. And when I say Miata I mean an old one, that is totally analog, no electric steering or handling crap, preferably the 97 which has the most powerr of the first model, a vanishing breed, a car you can thrash day after day, year after year, and will still run great with a couple hundred thousand on it. Of course the 03 S2000 is great if you are the kind of person who doesn't care about torque but loves the power of 9k, but they have gotten ridiculously expensive and actually, in the real world, the Miata is more fun to live with. Oh yeh, and until recently you could get a cherry one for around five grand.
If you're in Barstow, the outlets supercharger is then place to go. By a holiday I think version 3 chargers and like 20 destination chargers.
Road trip?
Kyle, you have to give it a week before you get familiar with Yoke. As a special car, I think this amount of effort in learning is a good thing.
I love the honesty.. excellent
Hennessey said in his Model S Plaid review that the plaid needs breaks. Not made for performance driving because the brakes fade like mad. Tesla needs to offer a Brembo brake package with a round steering wheel option.
I think the audio adaptive noise cancelling is still in software development and will come out maybe when they have more data. Not 100 percent on timing but it's definitely coming
Elon responded to a tweet saying that they aren’t going to do any sort of track pack for the Plaid. Sounds like it doesn’t make sense financially for them. Pretty disappointing that they didn’t beef up the brakes on a 1000HP car.
If you can't be bothered to get a custom brakes yourself what kind of a track/speed enthusiast are you? I'm sure you can afford it if you ARE comparing it to a Taycan because the price difference. And as for everyday drivers(and there is way more of us) like me the brake getting rusty(because hardly ever gets used) is the problem LOL.
@@DarkWing494 You need to drive a car with good upgraded brakes from the factory. The M2 Competition I drove had amazing factory steel brakes. The GT4 I drove with carbon ceramics were also great. Kyle said the brakes on the Plaid were cooked by turn two.
Finally honest review on backroads, thank you 👍🏻
can you do another review with track mode? curious if that solves some braking and suspension issues
I Think track mode software update will fix most of your complaints about the Plaid's handling and braking, just like in the Model 3, you'll be able to set the front/rear power delivery, reduce stability control that keeps braking in the corners and heating up the brakes, set the regen to be more powerful (M3P does that) to take stress out of the brakes and make them last longer without heavy fading, and probably with the 2 rear motors you'll even be able to control and set to different levels the torque vectoring! On top of that there could be some space to further improve the suspension via software updates.
For the type of car, i think the Plaid already does well in the canyons, you are an experienced and fast driver! And it's cool it will further improve with software updates!
And the price... you could swap the yoke, new rims and tyres, full custom racing suspension, carboceramic brakes with 6 piston calipers, racing seats, and you still wouldn't spend half the price difference between Plaid S and a Taycan with all those mods
I wonder if an upgraded brake package and track mode we’re supposed to be offered on the dropped plaid plus model?
Best car ever made. Period.
Best car reviewer on the internet hands down
Was going to post more or less the same comment. If I was Elon, this is one of the ones I would be watching and taking notes from.
Love your review style Kyle. I'd love to see the noice comparison using a meter with measurements. Hard to tell via UA-cam if it's really loud or not
We’ve just ordered some audio equipment to run a cabin decibel level test. But this doesn’t tell the full story of different frequencies of noise and will be more of an indication rather than a full scientific reading
@@OutofSpecReviews There are iPhone apps that can measure the decibel level.
@@OutofSpecReviews As an audio person, I would suggest using A as well as C weighting, and trying to standardize it as much as possible by using the same exact roads and noting wind and weather conditions.
Car NVH is ultimately way more complicated than that, which is why I place more importance on your gut impressions than an SPL meter.
One hand steering works perfectly and efficiently with the yoke for significant direction changes of any sort. The yoke is a paradigm shift and I recommend getting used to one hand rather than perseverating over traditionally shaped wheel's hand over hand. The yoke really gets the steering wheel out of the way.
15:27 Tesla didn't activate the noise canceling microphones yet, they'll activate them through a software update.
We still have to review the car as is and never rely on promised software. Such as Model Y track mode being promised but never coming - Kyle
Awesome and honest review !!! Great job!
Maybe put it into steering sport mode.
Thank you!! I was getting a bit annoyed that he kept roasting the driving dynamics but did not put the steering in sport.
Teslas really need a "High" mode for regen. I hardly ever use the friction brakes on my Model Y, but I would use them less if max regen was more than 85 kW, and would approach curves faster if max regen was upwards of 120 kW.
If you ever get a chance try the Bolt’s regen- drive in L mode and use the paddle behind the steering wheel on the left. It’s so much fun in city traffic with the strong regen and front wheel driving torque steer that you have to wrestle with a bit. You can even be holding the steering wheel paddle and simultaneously press the accelerator and control the amount of regen that way as well. Sure we love our Tesla, but for city stuff the Bolt’s a blast. It’s my beater EV.
I can't wait to drive the Tesla Model S Plaid
I'm not sure what's going on with the sound. Everyone else keeps saying the sound is super quiet. You didn't mention anything about the sound system ...
Great review. Love the honesty. I do think the Tesla UI is one of the most underrated parts of the brand. It’s more intuitive than anything else and it’s not even close. I’m sure plenty of people get used to the yoke but, what’s the benefit? Unique ≠ innovation
Completely agree with the UI thing and the yoke. At first I thought it would be a situation like when the Model 3 came out and had no screen in front of you and people were freaking out over nothing it’s still really intuitive but nope I test drove a Plaid and I don’t think I could get used to it. Especially in a Model X makes even less sense to me that’s a Whole Foods mom car why would they want or need a yoke steering wheel?
@@mrnoname7370 your friend or whoever probably let you drive their plaid for a good 15 minutes. can’t get used to a yoke in that amount of time. try living with it and driving it daily to make a more valid conclusion.
@@ynadle1111 no! Why trying to get used to an inferior solution.
@@EVPaddy you’re the reason progress is hindered in the world. always wanting to stick to the old and close-minded about trying something new. It’s funny that you have never sat in one, yet go around in the comments telling people there’s a fanboy defending the yoke lol. get a life.
Best review i've seen yet for a tesla plaid
I look forward with great anticipation to the inevitable light weight advanced batteries. That power with some lite weight and some aero would be hard to beat.
I think you will be impressed with the spacex roadster handling.
Been enjoying your videos 👍🏼 glad I found your channel going through Lucid reviews. Keep up the great work. Love your comment “about the EQS” haha 👀. Really looking forward to your assessment when you get your hands on a Lucid for a good drive.
Great review.
best way to turn with the yoke is the one hand push and rotate spin. you dont want to drive the yoke using steering wheel techniques.
I work at Tesla,more than 5 OTA are coming,the noise cancellation mics are in the car but has not been switched on.
Great review!
I was following your european tour.. you have professionally grown up a lot. Good job!
I was looking forward for a review like this one since I live in Switzerland and those streets are similar to the ones we have over here. A car, to me as to be funny on tight corner and at (relative) low speed. I love my M3P with modified suspensions, swaybar and brakes (never liked tesla's ones) but I was wondering if the plaid could get near to the fun I have on my M3 and you are the only one who gave me the answer. Thank you so much 😉
just don't forget fast driving only in germany. too fast driving in switzerland and the car, driver license and a lot of money are gone. best regards from zürich.
@@Francis-yc9nc you forgot... PRISON! (that's the swiss law even if not applied strictly)
I know, I don't care about driving fast in general (I always respect the speed limits) but the allowed 80km/h in the passes is often way too fast for those streets full of turns. Is where a tesla is nearly unbeatable and therefore is where a car (for me) as to be good. For the boring moments autopilot is in charge 😉
Thanks for your honest review. I'd be interested in a comparison with Lucid Air.
@@passing_bye5991 He didn't "steal" them. They WERE his ideas, he was the Chief engineer at the end of the day.
Obviously it will get a track mode update kyle so who gives 2 sits of the record was done with software that isn't out yet as long as it's coming.
Lucid STILL have not delivered a car to a paying customer. Lucid can talk the talk, but, can they walk the walk?
The yoke would be so good if they did like you said Kyle. If they would work on the turn radius of the wheel at most of 180 degrees, it would be such a breeze to use. I thought it did have the 180 degree turn at cap so there wouldnt be all the crazy steering with a half steering wheel.
Another great and honest review Kyle. I’m loving how with the new breeds of EVs, we’re seeing a unique characteristic in each. For example, if you want the acceleration king, you get plaid. If you want luxury above all else, may be get EQS or Lucid. If you want off-roading, wait for Rivian or Hummer or even Tycan.
Did you have the noise canceling option turned on?
Did Tesla use any special firmware or mode on the Nurburgring track? What about the Pikes Peak run?
I have heard for Pikes Peak the car was on some different version of software - not confirmed - and I have heard nothing on the Nürburgring car but I wonder if a pre-release version of track mode would allow it to stay within the stock class
@@KyleConner Thanks, funny to see Tesla spending so much effort idiot-proofing their vehicles, like with the FSD rollout with Safety Score. Maybe this is opportunity for open source firmware on inexpensive Chinese EV hardware to leapfrog, rather like nag-free openpilot compared to nagging Tesla Autopilot. Did Tesla Track Mode ever come out for Tesla Model Y? Here's hoping for Track Mode on the Cybertruck from the start.
Haven't made it through the entire video yet, but has it been updated to be able to do the ~200 MPH yet?
I could listen to you talk all day haha
No AR HUD, fully adaptable matrix LED headlights, cool light patterns, ambient lighting, etc. Nobody is ever honest about it. You mentioned the HUD and that's good.
It's not that they aren't honest. They just forget that shit after they feel the acceleration.
@@duncanaronstein7462 Oh dear.
The Color is amazing. The whole car, 😵
Tesla uses brembos for Model 3 front brakes. I am guessing they use some sort of performance brakes on the Model S too. Obviously not meant for the track but I believe their are discussions about a track package coming in the future.
Yea, always wondered why everyone was complaining about brakes, then I looked into it and turns out all performance Teslas use nice big brembos but that’s not the issue, it’s the disc/rotor, if they had carbon ceramic discs the brakes would be comparable to Porsches. So yea that’s why
@@JoshTheFrosch07 Ya that makes sense. I'm pretty sure the stock ones are still perfect for the type of driving 95% of buyers use it for. Looks like Tesla is developing a track version for the other 5% of drivers who want to shred the canyons and tracks.
wonder if there is an aftermarket fix for the yoke for those who want it; seems like there ought to be
Charging door seems different? Opens to the right ?
Funniest statement on 'low speed' backroad driving and seeing 71mph on speedo.. and don't steer with your knees.
So factoring Pros and Cons of what you stated, just get a regular S then??
An ex-Tesla salesman told me most of his customers bought the Model "S" based on the acceleration performance.
So they won't feel good about their car unless they race every car at the stoplight.
@@scottbreseke716 don’t cry because your car is slow
Shocker. You don't say? What a revelation Bill!
Great job Kyle. Thanks. And yeah, despite advertising the feature from even before it came out, torque vectoring is still an upcoming thing ... they did quietly say it's going to come soon in a software update.
The whole driving on back roads not being particularly fun is a bit disappointing given the speed.
You sure it wasn't a setting?
Question is, did it blow away that Taycan cross turismo you drove recently ?
The yolk steering looks a bit complicated. Rather have a small sort sterring wheel thats round.