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    Welcome back to the latest Destiny 2 Season of Dawn lore episode. In today’s lore episode we are explaining the Osiris and Rasputin Cutscene! Specifically, we are going to cover the entire history of Rasputin!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 408

  • @tntbuffalogaming
    @tntbuffalogaming 4 роки тому +147

    We are your Salvation...

    • @CaptainPilipinas
      @CaptainPilipinas 4 роки тому +1

      That, shall not come to pass it seems.

    • @ridion4382
      @ridion4382 4 роки тому +3

      "Time is an ocean, an ocean without shore"

    • @Hasselroeder
      @Hasselroeder 4 роки тому +1

      "Salvation" from what...? 🤔

    • @CaptainPilipinas
      @CaptainPilipinas 4 роки тому

      @@Hasselroeder (troll? or plain curiosity?)....
      [clears throat] Anyways: 'salvation' from the [Light] and Life.
      Obviously as a metaphor those *[Pyramids]* using such a Good news of a word, like 'Salvation', as a mock insult Against the [Light], 'us', Humanity, 'our' allies, etc as if the *[Darkness] [ITSELF]* isn't terrifyingly enough.

    • @CaptainPilipinas
      @CaptainPilipinas 4 роки тому

      @@Hasselroeder The 'End result'? If the *[Darkness]* does 'win' a second time.... *Destruction and Death.*

  • @hylianglitchmobber7570
    @hylianglitchmobber7570 4 роки тому +95

    "What if siding with the Darkness would save humanity?"
    Wow, I never thought about that in reference to Rasputin's allegiances.

    • @xyperus
      @xyperus 4 роки тому +2

      Highly unlikely , its akin to calus philosophy. But darkness has it out for us , since the traveller likes humanity and the creation of gaurdians was unforeseen. Rasputin is just gearing up for the next war against darkness.

    • @CaptainPilipinas
      @CaptainPilipinas 4 роки тому

      @@xyperus Like Eris said: "Together or Separate.".
      either 'we'll' (and many of those who would ally with the [Light], Guardians and Humanity or 'neutrals') Fight Together Against *[IT],* or (for Many here's sakes) die in separate Fronts. (Though preferring fhe former instead. It's much easier, yes?).

    • @chillhour6155
      @chillhour6155 4 роки тому

      Lore and story about Light and dark, sounds familiar

    • @robertpalmer8080
      @robertpalmer8080 4 роки тому +1

      If the Exo Stranger ever comes back there's the fact that if I recall correctly, Rasputin had at least one conversation with her and knew about her time hopping.

    • @saltboat5091
      @saltboat5091 4 роки тому

      No one else like PLEASE

  • @kennethblocher6110
    @kennethblocher6110 4 роки тому +69

    Elsa Bray (Exo Stranger) did say that a side must taken, even if it's the wrong side. The wrong side, in this case, could the wrong side of morality.

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 4 роки тому +4

      Or, it was just too early for the Destiny writers back then to come up with anything that made sense, so they had the Exo Stranger barf out some mysterious mumbo-jumbo, without having any real vision behind it. Seriously, look up how much the original Destiny story was retconned, the poor writers were scrambling to make something, anything, up from the retcon.

    • @CaptainPilipinas
      @CaptainPilipinas 4 роки тому

      I would think hers and other characters that 'we' know of ([Hard stare at the one below back home, in the West side....]) are very much Not aligned together though.
      Sadly she would have (due to her long periods of being a 'surfer' through the Vex Timestream) to do, but Last thing she would do is Siding with *[IT].*

    • @CaptainPilipinas
      @CaptainPilipinas 4 роки тому

      @@jakespacepiratee3740 we are rebuilding, slowly and tense.
      But without Constant 'oversight' by both groups.... Best Not to be lax in having bungie keep on falling down to the same mistakes.

    • @robertpalmer8080
      @robertpalmer8080 4 роки тому +1

      @@jakespacepiratee3740 I dunno, I think they could do more with the stranger, she is from a point in time where the Vex pose the greatest threat, the Darkness is a more immediate threat but the Vex are trying to write themselves into the laws of the universe so they can't be killed.
      I think the stranger's story could continue.

  • @jakespacepiratee3740
    @jakespacepiratee3740 4 роки тому +174

    In case you are wondering, actual Russians tried to translate what Rasputin was saying, and first of all, it was in reverse, so they had to reverse the audio to hear it normally.
    No, he did not say "Are you threatening me?'
    No, he did not say "Darkness"
    No, he did not say anything in english, it was reverse Russian like usual.
    He said, in reverse-russian, "I always..." Before being cut off.

    • @SivaExperiment
      @SivaExperiment 4 роки тому +4

      so the reversed russian sounds like english of "oh you suck"

    • @fluent4530
      @fluent4530 4 роки тому +1

      dembro Lmaooo

    • @michakowaleczko7512
      @michakowaleczko7512 3 роки тому

      God imagine if he actually said "are you threatening me", to a guardian! And a really powerfull one!

  • @Forcer69
    @Forcer69 4 роки тому +204

    Maybe the reason we actually brought Saint back was so he could translate whatever Rasputin is saying

    • @AymenDZA
      @AymenDZA 4 роки тому +3

      My understanding is that Saint-14 is Greek !

    • @Forcer69
      @Forcer69 4 роки тому +24

      Aymen DZ Bungie confirmed, he’s Russian

    • @MyelinGames
      @MyelinGames  4 роки тому +20

      lol. I never thought of that! Also, you see that little heart next to your name? Or can only I see it?

    • @AymenDZA
      @AymenDZA 4 роки тому +1

      @@Forcer69 oh really ? I must've gotten that wrong when Saint first came back

    • @Forcer69
      @Forcer69 4 роки тому +6

      Myelin Games I can see the heart at the bottom right by the comments symbol

  • @chrisbland8946
    @chrisbland8946 4 роки тому +81

    now that is a really interesting question; if siding with the Darkness would ultimately save more humans than siding with the Light, would Rasputin become an enemy to the Traveller and its Guardians?

    • @MyelinGames
      @MyelinGames  4 роки тому +42

      hey, how did you find this video, it was still unlisted?? public now, but somehow you saw 12 hours early.

    • @AymenDZA
      @AymenDZA 4 роки тому +19

      Rasputin's sole purpose is to safeguard humanity at any cost, he isn't loyal to anyone, part of the reason he "shut himself down" during the collapse is that he knew he doesn't have a chance against the darkness and that keeping himslef alive will be the best course of action so that he may study the Darkness and be ready to defend what's left of humanity if another collapse ever happens again, even if that meant billions of lives lost.

    • @marekdobrowolski1280
      @marekdobrowolski1280 4 роки тому +3

      Well I don’t think the darkness would ever spare humanity so I don’t see it siding with the darkness

    • @thelatenightgamer2624
      @thelatenightgamer2624 4 роки тому +2

      @@MyelinGames lol

    • @ender_slayer3
      @ender_slayer3 4 роки тому +2

      Whatever side he should choose, if the devs should give us a choice whether or not to follow suit, I would.

  • @GainingDespair
    @GainingDespair 4 роки тому +45

    I love how everyone says Rasputin is saying "are you threatening me?" as the door closes but they all seem to forget he's never done anything (in D1 and D2) besides speak strictly in Russian.

    • @user-t8gxkfin7n
      @user-t8gxkfin7n 4 роки тому +23

      Last Hope I don’t know about you, but I’ve been killed by plenty of Warsats.

    • @twicebubaigawara2178
      @twicebubaigawara2178 4 роки тому

      Others have heard him say darkness

    • @CaptainPilipinas
      @CaptainPilipinas 4 роки тому +1

      Neutrually agreeable but unfortunately....
      1. Gameplay restrictions which too affect other characters' feats. Including 'our' Gameplay-Guardian-player characters.
      2. he does have his moments (do not take this the wrong way coming from me....) but are blocked off in Lore texts only. Though if he does show some Golden Age planetary ordnances that he has kept then it would be powerful to see. And worrying....
      (Of course, he isn't the Only one). [glances back to the Guardian Warlock on the screen, still aiming his [Garden Progeny 01]]

    • @GainingDespair
      @GainingDespair 4 роки тому +2

      Completely unrelated but I absolutely love Bungies choice to name the Warmind Rasputin, the dude was from Russia (the actual individual) and while his legend is fairly common knowledge anyone unfamiliar should look up the name behind the legend.
      He survived like 5-6 assassination attempts (mostly poisoning) where he even drank it and lived and was given even more and was not phased. They tried so many times to kill him and most of the plans where successful (as in they played out as intended) but he just never died.
      The man was made a legend for the last assassination attempt he was shot in the head point blank and thrown into a river (to remove the body) during Russian winter when they found his body the noticed the gun shot wound in his head but they all came to the conclusion it did not kill him and he actually survived only to die after to hypothermia from the freezing cold river.
      It's frankly a brilliant name for Rasputin given the story behind the Warmind and how many times folks tried to destroy him and failed.

    • @robertpalmer8080
      @robertpalmer8080 4 роки тому +1

      He did threaten to drop a Warsat on us back in the SABRE strike... He has other weapons like one that froze Mars over and others we haven't seen yet and let's not forget on Earth he had that army of frames and God knows what else.

  • @j.d.5709
    @j.d.5709 4 роки тому +27

    I wish we could get a TV series of Destiny with each episode just being a lore piece.

    • @Feanor777
      @Feanor777 4 роки тому

      Right?!

    • @Kumari_44
      @Kumari_44 2 роки тому

      That would be AMAZING!!
      Bungie. Take note

  • @daigo12865
    @daigo12865 4 роки тому +19

    "I AM ALONE I survived alone. I cast off the shield and I shrugged my shoulders so that the billions fell off me down into the ash. They made me to be stronger than them and to learn and I learned well"
    -Rasputin

  • @halberd-3291
    @halberd-3291 4 роки тому +31

    Bungie released a new lore entry on the website, and it confirms Osiris was thinking of Saladin when he said that.

    • @Sol_Invictus1997
      @Sol_Invictus1997 4 роки тому

      What lore entry? I don’t see a new one. Just the one they posted yesterday.

    • @sovereigncharm288
      @sovereigncharm288 4 роки тому

      @@Sol_Invictus1997 That's the one.

    • @halberd-3291
      @halberd-3291 4 роки тому

      Scorn97 that’s the one I meant. I just mentioned it because it didn’t seem like he mentioned it.

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 4 роки тому +1

      @@halberd-3291 Which one? That's the one. That one. the one that is this one.

    • @CaptainPilipinas
      @CaptainPilipinas 4 роки тому

      @@halberd-3291 Ah, I found it too. [chuckles] It is called: [What Gives Me Pause]. a continuation scenery of Osiris' and RASPUTIN's Icy Confrontation between each of both from that Cinematic opening just 2+ Weeks ago last Month.
      Hrm, RASPUTIN 'wins' this one. admirable a bit from Osiris' too to let this one go for now.... [closes eyes in tense from those words]

  • @duke605
    @duke605 4 роки тому +37

    How they taught Rasputin to speak is literally how machine learning works (Same with the morality system). It's the reason why UA-cam can't say "This is definitively the list of words that will get you in trouble/demonetized by the algorithm" cause they don't know. Those rules (parameters) are black boxed to them. They just feed in "labeled" data saying this is good, this is bad, figure out the nuances and commonalities yourself.

  • @slackstarfish8133
    @slackstarfish8133 4 роки тому +6

    Osiris with the pro gamer move of challenging a warming with a scout rifle.

  • @danhara
    @danhara 4 роки тому +38

    The one thing on my mind is that solar plant crucible map on mercury, maybe rasputin has understood the vex pattern and there relation to the garden and now sees that the light is like an outlier to the "pattern" and side with the dark, but I feel like in the future, rasputin is going to be a double agent kind of character. Gain trust and act logically, only to betray and act illogically, like a human would, against odds. But that's just my opinion

    • @MyelinGames
      @MyelinGames  4 роки тому +8

      dammmmm

    • @superblahman
      @superblahman 4 роки тому +1

      Damn that is good.

    • @ridion4382
      @ridion4382 4 роки тому +2

      I totally forgot about that map!

    • @CaptainPilipinas
      @CaptainPilipinas 4 роки тому

      Either that worse event, or him entirely going Rampant while still saying: '-and I will 'defend' Humanity-'. 'we' will have to 'Delete' him in time if this keeps going South? [frowns warily between 2 routes]

  • @ethanmitchell7479
    @ethanmitchell7479 4 роки тому +7

    I have known that something BIG was going to happen with Rasputin ever since D1 do remember when we fought our way to the siva replication chamber and Saladin was speaking he said one thing that has stuck with me through the years
    “The vanguard still believe Rasputin to be simply a Warmind,...............he hasn’t been that in a very long time...............”

  • @sheluvprada
    @sheluvprada 4 роки тому +18

    In conclusion. Rasputin is smart

  • @bradwhite5884
    @bradwhite5884 4 роки тому +8

    "Ra-ra-ra-rasputin, the greatest war mind"

  • @TheLegoJungle
    @TheLegoJungle 4 роки тому +2

    I am super intrigued by the shooting the Traveler concept. A mind takin absolute authority and doing an irreversible action. Humans not agreeing with it. And the ambiguity of it. What a story beat, imagine seeing that in a flashback cutscene: war all around and chaos, suddenly a rain of crimson hellfire perfectly squared on the Traveler, the look of betrayal on people’s faces.

  • @feralbunnydonut8495
    @feralbunnydonut8495 4 роки тому +14

    All it takes for darkness to succeed is for good A.I too do nothing

  • @LordTonzilla
    @LordTonzilla 4 роки тому +4

    The most logical assumptions is that Rasputin leaped at Osiris, spiralling through the air with his lightsaber.

    • @Penguinman2.0
      @Penguinman2.0 4 роки тому +1

      I AM the SENATE

    • @LordTonzilla
      @LordTonzilla 4 роки тому +3

      "Are you threatening me, guardian?"
      "The Consensus will decide your fate!"
      "I am the Consensus!"
      "Not yet!"
      **Russian screeching**

  • @Phillipmamowfwifharts
    @Phillipmamowfwifharts 4 роки тому +3

    I still feel like He isn’t an AI. At least not completely. The way Osiris calls him “Old Man” and during the rise of iron campaign, Saladin tells us of how he was “almost human” and how “the vanguard still thinks rasputin is just an AI warmind, he hasn’t been that for a long time” or something close to that. I feel like there is something more there.

  • @Muffiniusknight
    @Muffiniusknight 4 роки тому +4

    One of my favorite Rasputin moments is when he sings a dirge(?) When the Hive have broken through through some of his protocols. I dont know why, it was just an unexpected thing to hear Rasputin do

  • @Bsketches
    @Bsketches 4 роки тому +9

    Adding on to the question at the end, if siding with the darkness will help humanity, and we plan to fight the darkness, rasputin will have to try to kill us... which maybe he does?

    • @gku93
      @gku93 4 роки тому +9

      Rasputin has killed me several times by dropping warsat's on my head!

    • @CaptainPilipinas
      @CaptainPilipinas 4 роки тому +1

      'we' Guardian-players will find a Better area to be made a martyred-sacrifice, Without him dropping Golden Age ordnances on top of 'us'.... [frowns objectedly while chuckling at the-]

    • @CaptainPilipinas
      @CaptainPilipinas 4 роки тому

      Gameplay. in the end.
      Let's be serious, people. [sighed]

    • @robertpalmer8080
      @robertpalmer8080 4 роки тому

      @@CaptainPilipinas we don't know everything he has access too. His Warsats are definitely weapons but he fought the Iron lords with Frames and SIVA as well.
      Maybe we'll find Exodus Red I think it was and use the SIVA aboard that, maybe Rasputin will create a new weapon. There's heaps bungie could do that works gameplay wise.

  • @dannyvillegas9104
    @dannyvillegas9104 4 роки тому +6

    Wait, I thought there were multiple warminds. I swear I remember a d1 mission talking about Warmind Ares

    • @greifenherz
      @greifenherz 4 роки тому +2

      There are/were multiple Warminds. Raputin is the only one 'known' to still be active. The Warmind vault on Io is not Rasputin's, I don't remember its name but it has some Adventures tied to it where the Warmind in question is definitelly not called Rasputin.

    • @elitereptilian200
      @elitereptilian200 4 роки тому

      the other warminds are not actual warminds like Rasputin is but rather sub-minds under/working for Rasputin.. I can´t remember when or where but somewhere along the way they were retconned to this position..

  • @rocknthesombrero1651
    @rocknthesombrero1651 4 роки тому +5

    Great recap. Been looking forward to it. Hope you're well.

    • @MyelinGames
      @MyelinGames  4 роки тому +1

      hey mate, i am good thanks :)

  • @_jaahlifefr8119
    @_jaahlifefr8119 4 роки тому +8

    Something is missing...
    Gammatrap artworks

  • @Blizo123no
    @Blizo123no 4 роки тому

    I'm pretty stoned right now and the way you ended that shook me on so many levels.

  • @adaptablemr.nerdygamer5788
    @adaptablemr.nerdygamer5788 4 роки тому +27

    If Rasputin ever becomes a problem we can just delete system 32. Ez

  • @tragic_solitude7992
    @tragic_solitude7992 4 роки тому +4

    I'll always side with Rasptuin. Even if it's against the Last City. I just think advance AI, SiVA, and Warmind tech are so cool. I always hoped for a SiVA infection on the Leviathan.

  • @jsmittyspiritualjedi511
    @jsmittyspiritualjedi511 4 роки тому

    Black box. Thanks so much for covering this. By far the best lore and story in D2. Bring back Rasputin and Siva!

  • @brucehc4975
    @brucehc4975 4 роки тому +4

    Rasputin better give us S.I.V.A back or ima be *[CONSUME ENHANCE REPLICATE]*

    • @robertpalmer8080
      @robertpalmer8080 4 роки тому

      I so hope SIVA comes back. I still love the weapons from Wrath, the design of the fallen, the whole raid and the SIVA itself is neat and they could totally implement it into the story again.

    • @bennett2874
      @bennett2874 4 роки тому

      Bruce HC Its been hinted constantly through cosmetics

    • @brucehc4975
      @brucehc4975 4 роки тому

      @@bennett2874 that's why I'm hoping it comes back.

  • @jokersvault4155
    @jokersvault4155 4 роки тому +1

    Can we acknowledge while the door closes Rasputin says "I can explain"

  • @Yeanah_Nahyea
    @Yeanah_Nahyea 4 роки тому +1

    I dunno if it’s just me or....11:09 - ‘A whittled mulberry branch’... My mind boggles at how specific that description is, anyone else? 🙃

  • @twicebubaigawara2178
    @twicebubaigawara2178 4 роки тому +1

    Tbh I completely understand why Rasputin shot down the ship holding the data,if you think about it it’s for the greater good after all there’s no telling what would’ve happened if the enemy got the data,and with him killing the iron lords it’s also understandable from a point of view because if you think about it yes they wanted to save humans but they’d be upgrading weapons and killing humans in the process to save themselves as well but there’s always the possibility they’d get killed and the enemy would get the Siva. War never changes! War is war sadly there’s death.

  • @grizzlybehr1902
    @grizzlybehr1902 4 роки тому +4

    Black Box....
    Cant wait to see how this unfolds

  • @koizumiizumi5426
    @koizumiizumi5426 4 роки тому +3

    About rasputin and the iron lords, you gotta remember, that was a Fragment of Rasputin that was still active on earth, where as the whole of Rasputin was in deep freeze, inactive on Mars, Disconnected from earth until we reconnected the fragment of Rasputin to the rest of the warmind/warsat systems, and not until the Warmind DLC did the Full/Real body of rasputin come out of deep freeze on Mars in the clovis bray facilty. rasputin on we can assume was a submind or sub facility that rasputin was in control of when the collapse happened and that facility in old russia was diconnected from the rest of the network.

  • @nathnathn
    @nathnathn 4 роки тому

    On the mention of warmind”s” I believe if my memory’s not playing tricks theres a reference in i think destiny 1 that rasputin wasn’t the only warmind hes just the only intact one.
    Including one of the vanguard referring to him as the “last of the warminds”.

  • @GainingDespair
    @GainingDespair 4 роки тому +1

    As for "Warminds" there is more than 1 Rasputin, Charlemagn, Malahayati, Voluspa or at least that's how it's portrayed in the story I believe they are all independent but collectively form the "Warminds"

    • @ninth_exe4841
      @ninth_exe4841 4 роки тому

      Throughout the years everyone one the of the names you mentioned have been confirmed to be subminds to rasputin or facets of rasputin himself

    • @GainingDespair
      @GainingDespair 4 роки тому

      @@ninth_exe4841 They are a part of him, but at least from the lore stand point they are all independent of him (as in he does not have full control over them) Rasputin is the combination of all combined but they have been referred to as "Warminds" and if we are wondering why they are called "Warminds" in this lore entry we just really need to look back and the answer shows itself. Maybe there is more or maybe like past references they are referring to all of them as individual Warminds.

  • @gamergaijin
    @gamergaijin 4 роки тому +1

    What about Rasputin's intentions re: Escalation Protocol? That whole thing seemed pretty ominous when it was explained to me. Like the old man's planning on using both Light and Dark to defeat the Darkness.

  • @lackster458
    @lackster458 4 роки тому

    Gotta love that Warmind aesthetic though...😍

  • @VallornDeathblade
    @VallornDeathblade 4 роки тому +2

    You should look into modern Machine Learning techniques like Deep Learning, Q Learning etc. They provide insight into how Rasputin built his own mind through experience.

    • @agent_11
      @agent_11 4 роки тому

      Like Johnny 5 from Short Circuit?

  • @cryptopsyrin4425
    @cryptopsyrin4425 4 роки тому

    Rasputin taking an extreme stance on saving humanity as a whole sounds very similar to another being, the pyramid ship. "We are not your friend, or your enemy. We are your salvation.", That sounds like something Rasputin would say.

  • @frenchwaffl
    @frenchwaffl 4 роки тому +3

    You know, OSIRIS never said what side he was on either...
    He may not be completely with the traveler or the darkness

  • @draco6m311
    @draco6m311 4 роки тому +4

    I mean, when we did the dreaming city missions petra did send information to rasputin.
    Either his intuition told him to side with the darkness to save humanity or (scp weebs will know about this) the information sent to him could've been a infohazard secretly corrupting him.

  • @frozenfreehand1997
    @frozenfreehand1997 4 роки тому

    Back to the topic of whether or not Rasputin shot down the traveler, I truly believe he did shoot it because it is still never explained how the traveler was wounded in the first place
    Unless that other symbol indicating the traveler (in the lore entry) indicates it's damaged state, then that means something big damaged the traveler

  • @ghastlyderp2637
    @ghastlyderp2637 4 роки тому

    Damn that last phrase you said really got me thinking now, great video!

  • @ginjaantsenpaisupreme8637
    @ginjaantsenpaisupreme8637 4 роки тому

    When you said about the darkness saving humanity in the long run, I was like whoaaaaaaaaa, yessssssss, what if......

  • @fturla___156
    @fturla___156 4 роки тому +1

    The design and development of Rasputin is an example of human hubris. To believe that by letting a machine self design it's own morality doesn't insure that whatever decision making trees it chooses is the best or only course of action. If you were to create several Rasputin level thinking machines using the same parameters, I doubt that any single one would even come close to similar decisions this AI has enacted. Whatever happened to transparency in providing useful information before, during, and after for all activity Rasputin makes in order to make everyone allied with him be on the same page in coordinating the direction for certain goals? Like a child with too much power, this AI will become arrogant and will need to be brought down to learn other lessons. If this does not work, then termination is the only option.

  • @nubz8223
    @nubz8223 4 роки тому

    Black box. Love your videos and lore keep it up. Also congrats on your engagement

  • @stevemoos1259
    @stevemoos1259 4 роки тому

    Excellent as always

  • @robertpalmer8080
    @robertpalmer8080 4 роки тому

    Also I really like how cold and calculating Rasputin is try it does almost seem like he's more than just a machine at this point too.
    He's still choosing to fight for humanity despite basically having nothing commanding him to do so anymore, it almost seems like he's easy for round 2 in a direct clash with the darkness.

  • @slipinoy
    @slipinoy 4 роки тому +2

    Rasputin: I dont need to save humans if there's no one to save.

    • @Pairrot
      @Pairrot 3 роки тому

      So it’s like Ultron, but destiny?

  • @Devil0027
    @Devil0027 4 роки тому

    If Rasputin was like a learning child and the collapse was centuries ago like some lore suggests, Rasputin could’ve evolved consciously into something completely new by now and we not even realize it. I mean he trapped a worm god, it’s scary to think what else he can do right now if pushed

  • @charalamboschristofi902
    @charalamboschristofi902 4 роки тому +3

    When the door closes in the cutscene, it sounds like Rasputin says “Are you threatening me?”, which doesn’t really make sense, just wanted to point that out

    • @dagmar9788
      @dagmar9788 4 роки тому +1

      He speaks russian so no he doesn't say that

    • @elitereptilian200
      @elitereptilian200 4 роки тому

      there is a reason why it doesn´t make sense, its because Rasputin speaks Russian in reverse and what it says in the cutscene translates to " I have always.." and the door closes and it´s cut off..

  • @jakespacepiratee3740
    @jakespacepiratee3740 4 роки тому +1

    Myelin Games, do you think you can do a video on a full breakdown of all the leaked info we have on the original story of Destiny? The one about the Traveller being evil, and the Speaker being a crazy doomsday worshipper, like the Prophet of Truth! I would love to see you give your thoughts on the original story, even the first Destiny intro cutscene was changed, a huge Awoken Woman was supposed to greet the astronauts on Mars, among mysterious ruins and ships!

  • @brianhurley890
    @brianhurley890 4 роки тому +1

    If the theta symbol represents computer code in an artificial intelligence.
    The only time we currently use that is to represent what is considered a threshold value for an artificial neuron.
    Broken down it basically means if the non-linear equation performed by the AI results in the threshold value it will prompt the response following the symbol itself
    Sorry I might have been a bit confusing I couldn't think of a better way to break it down off the top of my head

  • @JanuaryVS
    @JanuaryVS 4 роки тому +2

    Rasputin swearing in unknown language

  • @tropical3000
    @tropical3000 4 роки тому

    Love your Lore videos!

  • @captainzac24
    @captainzac24 4 роки тому

    My justification for the whole multiple warminds thing is that a Warmind is a theoretical standard for AI, but only one warmind was ever made. It's a bit like how people talk about a singularity or an artificial general intelligence.

  • @devoncurriesimms
    @devoncurriesimms 4 роки тому

    At the end of a strike to save one of Rasputin bunker our ghost quotes - ( not even a typical creepy Russian thank you from the old man)

  • @SealFormulaMaster
    @SealFormulaMaster 4 роки тому +1

    Rasputin is still a child. It's so caught up on trying to preserve humanity that it fails to to ask what humanity itself wants. It's like an overbearing mother, sheltering the child without realizing she's doing more harm than good. Rasputin is learning the way any human would learn, but it must also know that limiting humanities knowledge will also limit its own, which will prevent it from doing it's job of predicting and protecting. Rasputin right now seems to be on a Dictorial streak, wanting to rule, not protect.

    • @robertpalmer8080
      @robertpalmer8080 4 роки тому

      We'll have to see what happens from here but until the collapse it had programming and protocols it had to follow, however I believe that after Midnight Exigent and his failure to stop the Darkness, his programming was essentially put aside so he's free to do what he seems necessary.
      He's learned from what happened, he knows what his opponent can do and he doesn't need humanity getting in the way, guardians however are probably a different story.
      I don't think he's still a child, I think he's thinking like a soldier who will do whatevee it takes to win, that seems to be his primary directive now.

  • @benboyrd4429
    @benboyrd4429 4 роки тому

    I think rasputin is against the traveler itself not the gardians, so he technically sides with the darkness but is still protecting humanity

  • @andrewf3823
    @andrewf3823 4 роки тому

    Surprised you didn’t briefly mention that one bit of lore where Rasputin talks about how IT always wins and how Rasputin finally sees how he can win after that observation. Definitely seems like, at the least, not fighting the darkness is a viable path for him.

  • @Feanor777
    @Feanor777 4 роки тому

    How are we not making a movie or show about the collapse?!
    Some get this to Netflix!!

  • @Mikehawk323
    @Mikehawk323 4 роки тому

    Rasputin is the best thing the vanguard has if the traveler left humanity as it left the fallen

  • @robertpalmer8080
    @robertpalmer8080 4 роки тому

    Is it possible that the new symbol that we think was used to describe the traveller was for the darkness?
    Maybe Rasputin saw it coming and didn't know what to do or just didn't know what to do once it was here. He did end up going offline to prevent his own destruction after failing to stop the darkness if I recall correctly, well according to old lore anyway, now wet know he froze himself and a Worm God, but his connections to the warning vaults were severed in other ways too.

  • @Specter998
    @Specter998 4 роки тому

    I was thinking that researching in the world of Psychology about the "Stages of Human Development" by Erik Erikson might make us understand how Rasputin thinks, since he is taught like a human, according to the lore. But I think that a better topic has it somewhat pinpoint, that is the "Stages of Moral Development" by Kohlberg, by the time Rasputin shot down the evacuation ship, I think that he was at the stage where it states that "Universal Principles", where people at this stage have developed their own set of moral guidelines which may or may not fit the law. The principles apply to everyone. Therefore Morgan stating that Rasputin is not Minimizing Harm, but Maximizing Survival.
    It is really intriguing that Myelin Games state at the end, where he says, "...what if siding with the darkness would save humanity?"
    Really hyped myself since I'm a Psychology Student making me researched these xD

  • @AymenDZA
    @AymenDZA 4 роки тому

    Myelin: *Uploads a Video*
    Me: "You son of a bitch. I'm in !"

    • @MyelinGames
      @MyelinGames  4 роки тому +1

      hhahaha. *just going to give destiny a break for a moment... so I am fresh for trials* next minute

  • @Astro-ex2lq
    @Astro-ex2lq 4 роки тому

    black box, cool stuff man.

  • @benjamin8673
    @benjamin8673 4 роки тому +1

    Im not 100% shure but i think in destiny one your ghost says that there where more than one waremind. Rasputin is the only that survived.
    Yea checked in the warmind mission the ghost says that there are more than one

    • @joshuakeasey3609
      @joshuakeasey3609 4 роки тому

      I believe they retconned that in warmind DLC saying rasputin was the only warmind and the others were demoted to sub minds

  • @kalemregier
    @kalemregier 4 роки тому

    Thanks Matt.

  • @varnix1006
    @varnix1006 4 роки тому

    Time to sing that song....
    "Ra-Ra Rasputin"

  • @sauviel6296
    @sauviel6296 4 роки тому

    Osiris went to visit Rasputin to sing and dance to *RA RA RASPUTIN!*

  • @kennethmartin8879
    @kennethmartin8879 4 роки тому

    I wouldn't be surprised if Rasputin plan has something to do with killing or, at least, getting rid of the traveler and guardians. From it's point of view the current issuess that are facing humanity (the Fallen, Hive and even the Cabal) is due to the fact the Traveler is on Earth and there are guardians that wield its power. With us gone along with the Traveler it is possible that all those threats (to include the Darkness) will go elsewhere.
    In a way, Rasputin has realized he made a "mistake" keeping the Traveler on Earth and may now want to correct it. That is what I believe Osiris saw in the infinite forest.

  • @gjallarhorn4534
    @gjallarhorn4534 3 роки тому +1

    Here's to being human
    All the pain and suffering
    There's beauty in the bleeding
    At least you feel something
    I wish I knew what it was like
    To care enough to carry on
    I wish I knew what it was like
    To find a place where I belong, but
    I am machine
    I never sleep
    I keep my eyes wide open
    I am machine
    A part of me
    Wishes I could just feel something
    I am machine
    I never sleep
    Until I fix what's broken
    I am machine
    A part of me
    Wishes I could just feel something
    Here's to being human
    Taking it for granted
    The highs and lows of living
    To getting second chances
    I wish I knew what it was like
    To care about what's right or wrong
    I wish someone could help me find
    Find a place where I belong, but
    I am machine
    I never sleep
    I keep my eyes wide open
    I am machine
    A part of me
    Wishes I could just feel something
    I am machine
    I never sleep
    Until I fix what's broken
    I am machine
    A part of me
    Wishes I could just feel something
    It wasn't supposed to be this way
    We were meant to feel the pain
    I don't like what I am becoming
    Wish I could just feel something
    I am machine
    I never sleep
    I keep my eyes wide open
    I am machine
    A part of me
    Wishes I could just feel something
    I am machine
    I never sleep
    Until I fix what's broken
    I am machine
    A part of me
    Wishes I could just feel something.

  • @AVCHonline
    @AVCHonline 4 роки тому

    we will sides with the light, but we will also thinking about the last questrion
    except the fact that Eris will slap us 4 hand lol

  • @Tha_Valkyrie
    @Tha_Valkyrie Рік тому

    Great video.

  • @justinshaw9323
    @justinshaw9323 4 роки тому

    I'm...kind of surprised you didn't mention the biggest thing when it comes to the whole 'Betrayer', 'Murderer' thing . Rasputin abandoned humanity during the Collapse and left billions to die in order to save itself.

  • @elitereptilian200
    @elitereptilian200 4 роки тому

    yeah if Rasputin calculates that by siding with the Darkness it would save a lot more of humanity in the long run that would be killed in the immediate action, I think it would totally side with the Darkness.. even if it would save humanity in the long run, that is a pretty terrifying prospect not gonna lie..

  • @vnil7685
    @vnil7685 4 роки тому +3

    Osiris is dragging us into another mess and I can tell.

    • @warsmithandrath449
      @warsmithandrath449 4 роки тому +1

      Gotta give him credit though, he has the balls to go threaten something that could level the Last City with a year 1 Scout Rifle...

    • @vnil7685
      @vnil7685 4 роки тому

      @@warsmithandrath449 hell no, man also made a deal with something that's gonna screw us (Even had DRIFTER help him, smh)

    • @warsmithandrath449
      @warsmithandrath449 4 роки тому

      @@vnil7685 Don't get me wrong, we are going to be cleaning up his mess and it isn't going to be an easy fix. Just giving him credit where I think its due...

  • @Massen.
    @Massen. 4 роки тому

    Rasputin is the speaker. Calling it now

    • @ryanc3609
      @ryanc3609 4 роки тому

      T H i C C C i lol nice joke

  • @Eldrisaur
    @Eldrisaur 4 роки тому

    Myelin: What if siding with the Darkness will save humanity?
    Darkness: We are your... salvation.
    Fuck
    Fuck
    FUCK

    • @MyelinGames
      @MyelinGames  4 роки тому +1

      oh shit!!! totally forgot about that

    • @Eldrisaur
      @Eldrisaur 4 роки тому

      Myelin Games We're so fucked.

  • @idyllhero8498
    @idyllhero8498 4 роки тому

    Blackbox morality system is interesting

  • @robertschunke1
    @robertschunke1 4 роки тому

    I can´t help it but in the cutscene after osiris asked rasputin where he stands as the door closed i can hear rasputin say "Darknness" but thats only my humble ears and i don´t know what you all hear

  • @matthewlin3678
    @matthewlin3678 4 роки тому

    "siding withe darkness may save humanity" sounds like what "the rat man downstairs" will say

  • @devoncurriesimms
    @devoncurriesimms 4 роки тому

    Even in destiny one our ghost called him old man

  • @emp6994
    @emp6994 4 роки тому

    thanks myelin :D

  • @yhird
    @yhird 4 роки тому

    Great video. Excellent questions.

  • @The410cam
    @The410cam 4 роки тому

    Interesting so if they do a D3, could that be part of the story that the siva project sent into space comes back as reinforcements?

  • @NerfBarb69
    @NerfBarb69 4 роки тому +1

    Mendicant Bias and Rasputin seem to act similar the older he gets...

  • @igorbrasilense2396
    @igorbrasilense2396 4 роки тому

    15:25 my thoughts exactly

  • @THEDARKS1D3
    @THEDARKS1D3 4 роки тому

    It seems to me that as the door closes rasputin says, “ I can explain”

  • @domghaffar231
    @domghaffar231 4 роки тому

    Well done on the proposal Mylien have a good wedding have fun!!

  • @seraphik_
    @seraphik_ 4 роки тому +1

    Team Osiris!

  • @masterSageHarpuia
    @masterSageHarpuia 4 роки тому

    at 12:55 isn't that referencing all of the warminds? There was more than one.

    • @robertpalmer8080
      @robertpalmer8080 4 роки тому

      I hope there's more Warminds however I think if there were more bungie wouldn't have retconned them or at the very least, we'd have heard about it.
      I think maybe this could be referencing the Warmind Vaults that exist all over the system like the one on Earth and the one that controls the Warsat launch facility on Io...

  • @aiuua8337
    @aiuua8337 4 роки тому +2

    @Myelin Games How close do you think we are to another collapse and what do you think will happen

    • @sovereigncharm288
      @sovereigncharm288 4 роки тому +1

      If there is one, it'll be induced by Guardians. The Darkness doesn't want to kill us, it wants to convert us. It's close, and waiting. However, we might change their plans in the future.

    • @adaptablemr.nerdygamer5788
      @adaptablemr.nerdygamer5788 4 роки тому +1

      In Cayde's experience the sky split open and everyone started falling over. That's where the "collapse" comes in.

    • @robertpalmer8080
      @robertpalmer8080 4 роки тому

      If another collapse happens, humanity is most likely dead this time so I think it'd probably have a different name.
      As for how close, I hope we start seeing big things in the next 2 season's and bigger things in September/October, even bigger than Shadowkeep.
      Shadowkeep was good cause it moved things forward with the ships and all that but we've still got so many things going on, namely Savathûn being name dropped in a new strike, Quria and the dreaming city that we've been dying to see a resolution to for more than a year and the connection between the Darkness' arrival and a potential Hive attack. Oh and I'm still dying to see Calus, Bungie keep teasing it but never give it.

  • @EhlistarsWrath
    @EhlistarsWrath 4 роки тому

    Think now about the logic plague from halo, then think now about the influence of the deep upon *everything* that it comes to contact with- go now to the anomaly and ponder~

  • @lordcheemsheidelsogdestroy3534
    @lordcheemsheidelsogdestroy3534 4 роки тому

    I hope once rasputine starts talking and what not, his personality will be like ultron, that would be awesome.

  • @dadshirt6681
    @dadshirt6681 4 роки тому +1

    Black Box

  • @bizhaneftekhari5235
    @bizhaneftekhari5235 4 роки тому

    intesting idea it would be so cool if raspuntin sided with the darkness onley to betray the darkness to protect humanity

  • @SCOLARVISARI2010
    @SCOLARVISARI2010 4 роки тому

    Black Box!