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This tier list makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Polaris, Cloudstrike, Final Warning and Ergo in C tier is godawful. With Outbreak, Necro and Grand Overture (Who deserve at LEAST A tier) in the same tier as Monte Carlo and Huckleberry??? What??
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Outbreak right now CARRIES so the low ranking almost made me grab my pitchfork and torch bruh, how you gonna disrespect the goat like that? You don’t even need a build for it just throw it on and it kills the whole room with rewind rounds on.
It clears adds slower than plenty of other options, and rarely do you ever need a primary for large targets- that's what specials and heavies are for. It's just a jack of all trades primary. I love the gun, it's fun to use and looks/feels good, but the ranking makes sense. Thorn and touch of malice are some of my favorites and they're pretty low, but that's fine. They just need certain setups to really shine.
@@killval849not only high dps, but craftable with “Wewind Wounds” and it being a room clearer do its exotic perk and catalyst. You can do everything in the game with that gun, besides break shields in reasonable time ig lol.
This list is funny af, why are Outbreak and Revision so low, why is Buried Bloodline not S, absolutely sleeping on Necrochasm, and the constant talk about “top level” bro what does that mean😭
Outbreak being in B tier, Burried bloodline not in S tier and arbalest in S tier is all that's needed to completely disregard this tier list. Like, outbreak is goated in just about all activities now, Burried bloodline being a rocket side arm makes it S tier by default even without it having weaken and devour, and Arbalest in it's prime was S+ tier but now is C at best
@@buzzfightbeer8023I could explain the mechanics, but it's easier to see for yourself. If you go to D2 Quantum Damage-ics, Cloudstrike has a DPS of 35743 while Still Hunt + Celestial has a DPS of 32455 - even with optimized Golden Gun reloading. Aegis, MossyMax, and Damage-ics all have data showing this.
nah, stick it next to wicked implement in c tier, theyre basically the same sort of thing, just hot and cold XD like tommies its ignitions are low damage, but if you top off other scorch sources then its fine since i believe the first thing that applied scorch to a target determines the ignition damage.
@@blackpancake6354I disagree for one not everyone has crazy knowledge of the game and can use videos to learn/follow metas and two it’s entertaining which is really the only reason something needs to exist on UA-cam
Fr, his reasoning being “oh well some rolls might be bad” Is such a bad take considering it’s a farmable weapon. It can buff, do insane damage, and regen ammo. Easy A Tier at least
Final warning being on c-tier is absolutely criminal, pair that thing with a pure strand swarmers and you instantly become an add clearing monster and full charged shots give you unravel for the anti-barrier.
throwing this out there - the Ex Diris feels really nice on Prismatic Titan. Not overpowered or best in slot or anything, but having the amplified uptime is helpful and it's fun to throw glacial grenades and then pop them with ex diris.
You have timecodes. You have number of weapon of current tire. You have ANIMATED FRAME AROUND A WEAPON TO SEE HOW LONG YOU TALK ABOUT IT. I wish it was standard requirement for any video on youtube
Good list just don't agree about outbreak(S), gally(A), witherhoard(S+), final warning(A), Ergo Sum(A) Buried Bloodline (S+) the letter beside the gun is where I would rank them. all these guns go require setup just shoot/kill and go about your day.
Definitely agreed on Buried Bloodline. I farmed for it to complete the collection, used it because I was bored and oh my god, it's incredible. I even used it during Day 1 Edge of Salvation all the way up to Witness
Witherhoard, Arbalest and Agers are not S tier. They were in their prime, but much better options are available now. Wishender, lumina, microcosm, buried bloodline and most of all TRACTOR CANNON are all better contenders for S tier, because they all have something unique which makes them sorta irreplaceable for that niche. Tractor cannon is a tether in your pocket. In no list should it fall anywhere below the S tier.
While I agree with Witherhoard and Agers, Arbelest is still the king of shield breaking because it doesn't depend on damage to break them, it straight up deletes shields (bosses included). Easily S tier imo.
Witherhoard and Agers are definitely S-tier. Arbalest on the other hand does not deserve S-tier. Pulses and Wish-Ender just feel/perform better in every case.
Especially considering his criteria for S-tier... "use them anywhere & everywhere." That does not describe Arbalest at all. It's got very specific and niche use cases, otherwise it's a giant waste of your exotic and primary slot.
@@almeidathiago23 wishender 1 shots gm barriers with primary ammo not to mention radiant allows all weapons to be anti barrier. Arbalest is no longer a requirement for gms
@@almeidathiago23 that trait isnt really needed anywhere since match game doesnt exist anymore. Arbalest can just be swapped out for wishender for all anti barrier purposes. The one place where you do use arbalest for that trait is Ghosts of the Deep, and even there it doesnt one shot the boss shields anymore.
Galli rightfully is at the top. You hit the nail on the head about what weapon people will remember. I have a friend who hasn't played since d1. We tried to convince him to come to d2 and his first question was does it have galli😂
Rat king has a couple encounters where its utility keeps you alive guaranteeing invis. I used it when I 2 manned the abyss encounter on master. I’d definitely put it higher
Yep. Tbh rat king can change the whole approach to builds, like why would you even need to care about resilience or health if you can just go invis? I like playing all classes from time to time, and having that Hunter-like invis on warlock and titan can help me increase dps on builds rather than care about surviveability
With the current season I'd personally rank up and down a few weapons like Outbreak and Graviton Lance not only being a staple in GMs right now since you can just sit back and watch enemies and champions vanish but also both being incredibly good for ad-clear in lower level content. So provided Graviton Lance has its catalyst imo they're both S-tier. Whisper with the new seasonal mods out damages Still Hunt on its own (not tested with sh-rocket) and should sit up there with it tbh. This one might be kind of a hot take but right now Darci is very powerful since it not only gets a basically passive 15% damage buff but can also stun every champion making it incredibly good in GMs. I'd put this one probably at least in the B-tier. Ergo Sum might seem situational but with the right rolls it can not only be the best dps sword in the game (including heavy weapons) but also an ad-clear option rivaling Sun Shot thanks to arc conductor while having near infinite ammo with the catalyst and seasonal mods. I'm not sure where I would put it generally either but at least wave or caster frame with arc conductor would land in my S+ tier. In terms of moving down this might just be nitpicks but since the just mentioned Ergo Sum roll exists now I'd honestly bump Riskrunner down a row. Lastly Arbalest unfortunately got a pretty heavy, if indirect nerf to its capabilities and with there being better options for precision enemies and barrier champions I haven't seen myself using it at all since The Final Shape. That's all Great video :D Love the quality and editing
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regarding Deterministic Chaos: it is actually pretty interesting to run with Void Titan as a support MG for bosses that you would have issues to hit with Tractor like the Witness. during the DPS phase you can keep laying into the Witness with it and it will synergize with Void aspects nicely Regarding manticore, it does have some fun usage on Titan with Lion Rampant on Void Titan as you become a stationary turret of destruction with Controlled Demolition xD Regarding Hier Apparant, instead of fighting against your slow speed, lean into it. Put on Icefall Mantle and become the definition of "Slow and tough as a glacier"
As a Skyburner' Oath main, I can agree with where it is. Its main use is probably on Warlocks with a certain helmet on. Even then, still gets a few glances from other people.
The queenbreaker deserves a little bit of love for being one of the best anti unstop tools in the game. It carried the combat portion of the verity challenge for me
fun fact: if you combine wolfpack ergo sum with tireless blade perk while DPS bosses you will consume less ammo after DPS phase because wolfpack round still count at light attack
@@sequoia7284 there’s absolutely no way you think riskrunner,xenophage,lumina,anarchy and parasite are better than weapons like outbreak,ergo sum,red death and collective obligation and that arbalest is an s tier weapon when it’s barely used lmao
@@benitomussolini9563while I agree that the list isn't very accurate, xenophage, lumina and parasite are much better than all of the other weapons you listed and should be A tier, I do agree that outbreak should be a tier higher though.
I’ve found that the no time to explain is really good for the prismatic warlock ability spam build because of it being a strong kinetic pulse rifle with a good ability that activates with bleak watcher. The turret and gun also gets anti barrier thanks to this episode’s artifact.
My checklist for exotics: 1. It looks cool 2. Easy to get 3. Makes the game easier 4. Satisfying or quick reload animation 5. Makes a cool sound 6. Given by a hot exo chick with an entrancing voice 7. I have fun using it overall If the weapon meets one or more of this criteria, I use the exotic
Secret to Vexcalibur is stacking the Overshields with Woven Mail (or Amplified this season with the DR mod). With the stacked DR your Overshields get pretty chunky and the Melee Kill -> Overshield Refresh gameplay actually starts working in higher end content. It's a really good solo setup for Legendary Exotic Missions and things like that.
Ager’s Scepter has definitely been my top exotic for a while. Love freezing clusters of enemies and shattering them all. Then the supercharged mode going even further with the damage (also coolest catalyst upgrade in my book)
@@ignatoseg4664 it only rivals machine gun dps, its worse than liner (which are sht) and no where close on rivalling meta dps options. Its a backup dmg option for boss dps and is reliable enough for gms as ur heavy is much more limited there
Outbreak is really good this season because of AB Pulse. When there's no AB pulse, its basically untouched - can't rely on seasonal perks for ranking videos that will outlive the seasons
Imo ~60% are F tier. Not only are half of them outclassed by legendaries, they also steal the exotic slot making them even less than worthless but actually harming everyone that uses them
I sort of agree. An exotic is either actually usable with utility surpassing the legendary counterpart and also excelling as primary heavy special OR it’s just good for vault.
Destiny 2 is a fairly easy game. Not even an elitist take. Majority of the content can be completed in all blues. Just need the knowledge. So it will not "Harm" anyone for 90% of content in the game for using certain exotics.
I agree. Specially after 3.0 subclasses and the interaction with perks. Some exotics could be amazing and still be nice in game if they have interactions with subclasses. Bungie was doing some great updates in that but then they just stopped. Sad.
@@Bookerjj I disagree, in the fps world destiny 2 is the hardest game. Surely it’s not Elden ring level but it can still be a hard gam. Maybe you are extremely good at gaming but for the normal player it is hard at high level. Just look a the world first of salvation edge if it was “ fairly easy”, it would have took much less time.
@@r0main.895 Classic selective reading. The difficulty you speak of do not apply to 90% of the content. When 90% of the content you can complete with blues and whatever weapons it's not a difficult game. The OP stated having certain exotics harmful to other players is just not true. As I mentioned knowledge of the game is more important than gear. I am fairly sure even you can carry a blueberry through 95% percent of the content in this game no matter his gear, just as long as he/she is willing to listen.
Thunderlord is great for this season with it's intrinsic anti Overload Champions feature. I'm using it with the new Corrasion arc pulse with Enlightened + Voltshot and primary Patron of Lost Causes scout with Triple Tap + Kinetic Tremors. So all champion bases covered and I'm finding this fun with an arc build.
Yeah nah, this list ain't it champ. This ain't an objective list that's for sure. I can understand if this is more of a personal preference list, but goddamn these aren't good rankings at all 💀
To this day one of my go to pairings is monte Carlo and the mk44 stand asides for your titan. You can basically always have an overshield while sprinting. Plus those pants look aweet
Heartshadow is amazing in gm when running a liar handshake build. You get a panic invisibility option for when you somehow loose you ability to one shot punch champions. It also deals decent damage. overall an amazing weapon for a assassin style play style.
2:54 You should note that heartshadow actually has the highest DPS on crota currently in the game thanks to the lament nerfs 14:36 Rat King is incredibly useful for verity encounter, for players that just want to focus on the mechanics
I would argue... - Darci, this is basically the same as Fighting Lion but a sniper, using a harder to get ammo, def F Tier as well. - Skyburners, the ability to top off scorch stacks for ignitions is a really valuable function, as is scorching outright since it synergizes with solar fragments and some aspects as well, should be more C tier. Wicked Implement (also in C tier) is basically the Stasis version of this gun. - Borealis, now that its double damage on matching shield break perk has been 'Fixed' its actually worse then it used to be, with the current artifact mods its actually pretty cool, but Low D-Tier of a weapon for sure, would be cool if a buff gave it intrinsic incandecent/jolt/destablizing rounds could be way better then - Ruinous (my fav child) I agree with C tier and not higher, but for completely different reasons, the fact you still see this weapon as a trace rifle + slam dunk is why you don't value it as much. The loop for this gun is: Get kill to make orb, pickup orb and hit things with it (stacks with surge mods or armor surges) Before orb ammo runs out slam dunk it. Repeat. The shield drain effect you do while blocking, could be stronger, its good for exploders, or when your swarmed, but drains its energy way to fast. This synergizes well on void class if you tie into volitile and suppression. I would never use this in end game, hence C tier. Everything else in the list seems like good placements, I do think the problem with your definition of 'build defining' is somewhat lacking, there are guns you need to build around to be good (C tier and below), there are once that compliment armor builds really well (B tier), and lastly there are ones that shine so brightly on their own (A to S tiers)
Skyburners oath and gunpowder gamble is one of my personal favorite combos in destiny 2 it's sad that such a fun way to play solar hunter isn't used because of it being outshined by still hunt
Prometheus Lens is naturally gonna be less strong if you tap fire it. It reloads on kills and has a ring of fire that grows the longer you shoot. So if you lay on that trigger and have multiple enemies around, you can make a huuuuuuge ring of scorching flames.
I feel like the only way to make the hardlight type weapons better would be to to allow the different elements to apply a debuff whether you destroy a matching shield or get a kill with it
My friend let me introduce you to the ergo sum catalyst. I'm never out of ammo. I cleared Liminality with it, master SE, you name it. Ergo sum has it all.
I will forever rep the space jam void beam. That top tier fun factor is truly something that makes me keep coming back to it, plus it has some of the coolest ornaments in the game. I do hope that bungie gives it another opportunity in the limelight again.
Ok overall, there are a few little things that can be argued about. Heartshadow - decent for damage with build-in debuff and ok add clear if needed, should be in C-tier Necro, Outbreak and Revision - all belong in A-tier, Necro is crazy for add clear (together with Khvostov), Outbreak carries a lot rn, Revision Zero is way better than Wish-Ender in GMs (if you put Revision in B, Wish-Ender belongs there too, or the other way around) Edit: I did side by side comparisons of Wish-Ender vs Revision Zero in GMs last season and this season Revision Zero defeats champions in GMs 50% faster than Wish-Ender can The only major difference is that Revision requires Aim and Wish-Ender doesn't really
I was just waiting for the Forerunner and I’m glad it got the recognition it deserved, personally I use it to get four different grenades with a Prismatic Hunter in little under every 2 minutes.
I agree with everything here. But outbreak perfected needs to be at least A tier. That thing has insane crowd control. Great range, and with the ‘Catalyst’ it can clear entire rooms, and when used correctly can shred bosses
i just started playing destiny 2 1 week in as a hunter for the first time and i gotta say im loving it and hating it aside from the massive paywalls(expansions)i bought all at a sale for 30$ the fact that we can only choose 1 exotic for armor or weapon forces you to only choose an s tier weapon wich sucks cuz some weapons are so fun to use but i do understand tht 3 exotics would be so chaotic especially with armor but we also gotta realize other games can have all crazy weapons equipped without breaking the game
This is absolutely not the case unless you're doing a Master or Day 1 raid. Use whatever loadout you think is fun since as long as you know what you're doing, you can clear almost all content in the game using whatever you want to
I agree with devils ruin, I would like to say solar hunter with speedloaders slacks can pump insane reloads for perma beams basically, but that is really niche.
As a Tommy's Matchbook fan, I feel I need to rush to its defence. TM I feel is a bit misunderstood. I love the gun and find myself using it very frequently in builds centred around it (Sanguine Alchemy + Ember of Singeing) or mixed in with Prismatic (and devour) as a means to deal with unstoppable champions very easily. It has weaker ignitions, sure, but it allows for rapid ignition triggers especially when combined with Song of Flame and Ember of Ashes for better crowd control and boss chunking. I will admit that TM has a lot of tradeoffs, but can be very impressive in the right build and can carry you through most higher level content.
I can proudly say that I never took off sunshot and it was my main pve weapon before everyone realized it was still good. From launch it was my favorite and I did kinda wonder why the hell nobody else used it. Season of the wish went insane.
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lol I get it outbreak's been in everyone's slot lately and could've been higher but it felt like seasonal artifact was introducing bias! Either way seems I struck a nerve haha; yes it is fantastic.
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They buffed truth damage to compensate for no impact, is it still doing less than others?
This tier list makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Polaris, Cloudstrike, Final Warning and Ergo in C tier is godawful. With Outbreak, Necro and Grand Overture (Who deserve at LEAST A tier) in the same tier as Monte Carlo and Huckleberry??? What??
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@@graviton7058outbreak I feel it is to slow
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Having Outbreak in B-tier, should be a crime. That weapon even on its own is incredible, and it performs at all levels of the game.
Outbreak right now CARRIES so the low ranking almost made me grab my pitchfork and torch bruh, how you gonna disrespect the goat like that? You don’t even need a build for it just throw it on and it kills the whole room with rewind rounds on.
for real , it's insane
It clears adds slower than plenty of other options, and rarely do you ever need a primary for large targets- that's what specials and heavies are for. It's just a jack of all trades primary.
I love the gun, it's fun to use and looks/feels good, but the ranking makes sense. Thorn and touch of malice are some of my favorites and they're pretty low, but that's fine. They just need certain setups to really shine.
THIS, gave up on the video after that placement
The old days of full levi run slapping daddy calus
Ain’t no way bro put Huckleberry over Outbreak Perfected 💀💀💀
And MONTE CARLO lol
C tier final warning is all you need to see to discredit the list 😭
Terrible tier list
@@ThePuppyOfProdigy wowowowow, that's like the highest DPS kinetic primaries, right? Final Warning. I think even more than Outbreak.
@@killval849not only high dps, but craftable with “Wewind Wounds” and it being a room clearer do its exotic perk and catalyst. You can do everything in the game with that gun, besides break shields in reasonable time ig lol.
This list is funny af, why are Outbreak and Revision so low, why is Buried Bloodline not S, absolutely sleeping on Necrochasm, and the constant talk about “top level” bro what does that mean😭
Oh my god how did I forget final warning
Hey!
Another one who knows how OP Revision is against champions, better than Wish-Ender or arbalest ever was
Outbreak being in B tier, Burried bloodline not in S tier and arbalest in S tier is all that's needed to completely disregard this tier list. Like, outbreak is goated in just about all activities now, Burried bloodline being a rocket side arm makes it S tier by default even without it having weaken and devour, and Arbalest in it's prime was S+ tier but now is C at best
@@petervalvo1186not really
@petervalvo1186 outbreak I think needs to shot faster it would make it alot better
I dont get it. Is this list ranking for Patrol or just rage bait?
Lmao so real
he’s a pvp player
@@matter-baby checks out
It's for Patrol lmao. Content creators try to appeal to the people who are the majority, and the average D2 player struggles in the new -5 strikes
@@fleefie Then he shouldnt make this list. Also if it was for patrol, this tier list is still dog doodoo and whole lotta misinformation
Like datto says, Symmetry is my favorite gun I never use
I have adopted this statement as well. Shame that gun doesn't have a solid place in EGC
I'm sorry. Outbreak perfected in B. It's at least A.
Agreed! Outbreak Necro and Quicksilver are easy A tiers
Outbreak should be in S-tier honestly. It's so good now with rewind rounds and anti-barrier.
Outbreak should be an instant s
Outbreak is fine, it’s top tier right now because of AB pulse and the fact that pulses just got a huge buff. I’d put it in B before the buffs
@@sequoia7284 Your comment makes no sense, the tier list refers to right now/current meta. "B before the buffs" is redundant.
Cloudstrike in C is an insane ranking, it’s really good for both boss damage with a rocket rotation and overall use.
It's not good for boss damage anymore. More and more legendaries sadly outpace it.
@@blackmamba3060 It has the same DPS as pre-nerf Stillhunt according to Aegis and MossyMax damage testing
@@not_kes no
@@buzzfightbeer8023I could explain the mechanics, but it's easier to see for yourself. If you go to D2 Quantum Damage-ics, Cloudstrike has a DPS of 35743 while Still Hunt + Celestial has a DPS of 32455 - even with optimized Golden Gun reloading.
Aegis, MossyMax, and Damage-ics all have data showing this.
Sky Burners oath not in s tier is criminal( no bias)
lolol
Something looks fishy here
@@thatoneirregularfish nuh uh
I concur, its the best, can't tell me otherwise.
nah, stick it next to wicked implement in c tier, theyre basically the same sort of thing, just hot and cold XD
like tommies its ignitions are low damage, but if you top off other scorch sources then its fine since i believe the first thing that applied scorch to a target determines the ignition damage.
FINALLY A PVE RANKING. why is so hard to find anything pve related.
Right? Like it’s what 90% of the games content and 95% of the playerbase actually cares about
because is no need
@@blackpancake6354I disagree for one not everyone has crazy knowledge of the game and can use videos to learn/follow metas and two it’s entertaining which is really the only reason something needs to exist on UA-cam
Because pve is easy mode and can be cheesed to no brain levels lol
@@Rooler694you must be stooopid
Monte carlo above outbreak is crazy, outbreak in b tier is crazy
I like monte but outbreak is definitely better
ergo sum and outbreak are both at least A tier, i think ergo is probably S tier
Fr, his reasoning being “oh well some rolls might be bad” Is such a bad take considering it’s a farmable weapon. It can buff, do insane damage, and regen ammo. Easy A Tier at least
Somebody better be rocking a gjally ergo during sword DPS bosses.
because ergo is such a terrible sword
They really should put enhanced eager edge on worldline Zero
And borealis antibarrier intrinsic
OG’s remember when The Colony did have the upgraded damage and Ammo capacity lol The first AI ruining crucible
I thought it recently got a buff
might be one of the worst tierlist ive ever seen
Final warning being on c-tier is absolutely criminal, pair that thing with a pure strand swarmers and you instantly become an add clearing monster and full charged shots give you unravel for the anti-barrier.
Even as you described it's still fine. C-tier is a perfect rating for it. If it was listed lower then i would've agreed with you.
Final Warning should've been in A-tier. How the weapon feels and how it performs with a non-strand build is the only reason it's not S-tier.
It still performs fine, should be higger than C Tier@@insatiablenate3963
final warning really isn't all that good compared to other exotics
@@chunkyrabbit1032 lol, uhhhhh yes it is.
throwing this out there - the Ex Diris feels really nice on Prismatic Titan. Not overpowered or best in slot or anything, but having the amplified uptime is helpful and it's fun to throw glacial grenades and then pop them with ex diris.
Ex dris at best should be c.
It's slow does little dmg
And is outclassed
You have timecodes. You have number of weapon of current tire. You have ANIMATED FRAME AROUND A WEAPON TO SEE HOW LONG YOU TALK ABOUT IT. I wish it was standard requirement for any video on youtube
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just needs video timestamps in the descript so i can skip to the different parts
Too bad so much work is put into a completely invalid list, this list is borderline trolling
@ケイレブ Stop meat riding him, look at this garbage ass list, if this is where u get your info from, ur cooked
Good list just don't agree about outbreak(S), gally(A), witherhoard(S+), final warning(A), Ergo Sum(A) Buried Bloodline (S+) the letter beside the gun is where I would rank them. all these guns go require setup just shoot/kill and go about your day.
Yeah
Definitely agreed on Buried Bloodline. I farmed for it to complete the collection, used it because I was bored and oh my god, it's incredible. I even used it during Day 1 Edge of Salvation all the way up to Witness
100% agree across the board, Outbreak being so low is criminal.
Agree
Indept kindness joins the chat
"I am a s tier exotic side arm"
Everyone: "wait, what are you doing here?"
What last word needs is a catalyst, desperado or a version of it that activates at fan fire 3.
Ergo C
Outbreak B
Tractor A
Whisper A
Khvostov A
brother is this a bait
Witherhoard, Arbalest and Agers are not S tier. They were in their prime, but much better options are available now.
Wishender, lumina, microcosm, buried bloodline and most of all TRACTOR CANNON are all better contenders for S tier, because they all have something unique which makes them sorta irreplaceable for that niche.
Tractor cannon is a tether in your pocket. In no list should it fall anywhere below the S tier.
While I agree with Witherhoard and Agers, Arbelest is still the king of shield breaking because it doesn't depend on damage to break them, it straight up deletes shields (bosses included). Easily S tier imo.
Witherhoard and Agers are definitely S-tier. Arbalest on the other hand does not deserve S-tier. Pulses and Wish-Ender just feel/perform better in every case.
Especially considering his criteria for S-tier... "use them anywhere & everywhere." That does not describe Arbalest at all. It's got very specific and niche use cases, otherwise it's a giant waste of your exotic and primary slot.
@@almeidathiago23 wishender 1 shots gm barriers with primary ammo not to mention radiant allows all weapons to be anti barrier. Arbalest is no longer a requirement for gms
@@almeidathiago23 that trait isnt really needed anywhere since match game doesnt exist anymore. Arbalest can just be swapped out for wishender for all anti barrier purposes.
The one place where you do use arbalest for that trait is Ghosts of the Deep, and even there it doesnt one shot the boss shields anymore.
I haven’t seen it yet, but I know tessellation is underrated. Using strand in all 3 slots is crazy strong with spirit of harmony.
Galli rightfully is at the top. You hit the nail on the head about what weapon people will remember. I have a friend who hasn't played since d1. We tried to convince him to come to d2 and his first question was does it have galli😂
Thunderlord over Ergo Sum is crazy.
Rat king has a couple encounters where its utility keeps you alive guaranteeing invis. I used it when I 2 manned the abyss encounter on master. I’d definitely put it higher
Yep. Tbh rat king can change the whole approach to builds, like why would you even need to care about resilience or health if you can just go invis? I like playing all classes from time to time, and having that Hunter-like invis on warlock and titan can help me increase dps on builds rather than care about surviveability
Wish keeper never leaves my exotic slot and wish ender never leaves my bros, we are the ultimate duo.
Le Monarque never leaves mine, may I join you and ur bro
@Tyto-ATTA sure we need a third for GMs and stuff bc we can't quite handle them in duos yet. What's your platform and tag?
47:43 warlock's helmet Felwinters Helm also applies 35% debuff
Great video very good pace and straight to the point, I think this is what everyone looks for in a video like this great work
With the current season I'd personally rank up and down a few weapons
like Outbreak and Graviton Lance not only being a staple in GMs right now since you can just sit back and watch enemies and champions vanish but also both being incredibly good for ad-clear in lower level content. So provided Graviton Lance has its catalyst imo they're both S-tier.
Whisper with the new seasonal mods out damages Still Hunt on its own (not tested with sh-rocket) and should sit up there with it tbh.
This one might be kind of a hot take but right now Darci is very powerful since it not only gets a basically passive 15% damage buff but can also stun every champion making it incredibly good in GMs. I'd put this one probably at least in the B-tier.
Ergo Sum might seem situational but with the right rolls it can not only be the best dps sword in the game (including heavy weapons) but also an ad-clear option rivaling Sun Shot thanks to arc conductor while having near infinite ammo with the catalyst and seasonal mods. I'm not sure where I would put it generally either but at least wave or caster frame with arc conductor would land in my S+ tier.
In terms of moving down this might just be nitpicks but since the just mentioned Ergo Sum roll exists now I'd honestly bump Riskrunner down a row.
Lastly Arbalest unfortunately got a pretty heavy, if indirect nerf to its capabilities and with there being better options for precision enemies and barrier champions I haven't seen myself using it at all since The Final Shape.
That's all
Great video :D
Love the quality and editing
The quote used at 37:55 is incomplete and used incorrectly. The full quote goes like this:
“A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one.”
This quote is meant to be used to make the object, activity, or person be a better choice than the the specialized choice
It's like the customer is always right... In terms of taste.
Some Karen twisted the original phrase and use this now as an excuse to shitty behaviour which is falsely incorrect.
You are welcome my guys
@@DeAwaited04 "....better to be average at many than master of one"
regarding Deterministic Chaos:
it is actually pretty interesting to run with Void Titan as a support MG for bosses that you would have issues to hit with Tractor like the Witness. during the DPS phase you can keep laying into the Witness with it and it will synergize with Void aspects nicely
Regarding manticore, it does have some fun usage on Titan with Lion Rampant on Void Titan as you become a stationary turret of destruction with Controlled Demolition xD
Regarding Hier Apparant, instead of fighting against your slow speed, lean into it. Put on Icefall Mantle and become the definition of "Slow and tough as a glacier"
I am just here to see the Buried Bloodline ranking. I better hear no slander
As a Skyburner' Oath main, I can agree with where it is. Its main use is probably on Warlocks with a certain helmet on. Even then, still gets a few glances from other people.
I could feel the Brain cells melt in my head the further i watched into this list
Dude, same
I know right! It's such an awful tier list
The massive feeling of validation knowing I never stopped using the sunshot from day 1
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS! Thank you castle ❤️
The ergo sum with catalyst ammo economy is more than fine, I've been using a warlock with arc conductor casterframe ergo sum and it slays
The queenbreaker deserves a little bit of love for being one of the best anti unstop tools in the game. It carried the combat portion of the verity challenge for me
I love Graviton Lance! From the sound design to the weapons abilities. Ty for putting it so high up :) 52:10
Bad Juju criminally underrated B tier at least
You didn't listen to his description of B tier.
That grenade into bow shot looks so cool at 51:26.
ergo sum at c is criminal in my opinion but good list👍
The list is utter garbage. Over half of the stuff is completely wrong, not even subjective at this point, the guy just has no idea about PvE
As an avid Monte Carlo user, putting it over Polaris and Final Warning is insane
Gotta love the Microsoft Paint Forbearance image
Truly a masterpiece for the ages
fun fact: if you combine wolfpack ergo sum with tireless blade perk while DPS bosses you will consume less ammo after DPS phase because wolfpack round still count at light attack
I’ve been very confused on what is meta so thank you
This tier list is awful
@@benitomussolini9563no it’s not. There’s one or two questionable picks, and then a comment section full of cope for their favorite exotic.
@@sequoia7284 there’s absolutely no way you think riskrunner,xenophage,lumina,anarchy and parasite are better than weapons like outbreak,ergo sum,red death and collective obligation and that arbalest is an s tier weapon when it’s barely used lmao
@@benitomussolini9563 yes they are only thing good u listed was ergo sum and outbreak rest are mid
@@benitomussolini9563while I agree that the list isn't very accurate, xenophage, lumina and parasite are much better than all of the other weapons you listed and should be A tier, I do agree that outbreak should be a tier higher though.
So much capturing and editing went into this. Very nice and whole video. Thank you a lot!
Theres a few of these i would change, but a pretty good list nonetheless
I’ve found that the no time to explain is really good for the prismatic warlock ability spam build because of it being a strong kinetic pulse rifle with a good ability that activates with bleak watcher. The turret and gun also gets anti barrier thanks to this episode’s artifact.
I’m sorry, final warning is not c tier, the opinions have me hurting bro 😞
Should've been in A-tier for sure.
My checklist for exotics:
1. It looks cool
2. Easy to get
3. Makes the game easier
4. Satisfying or quick reload animation
5. Makes a cool sound
6. Given by a hot exo chick with an entrancing voice
7. I have fun using it overall
If the weapon meets one or more of this criteria, I use the exotic
Idk if I’m just dumb but where’s sun shot?
Finish the vid :|
As a consecration slam titan I love Tommy’s matchbook with power orbs and war rig chest armor.
Idk man cloudstrike has been S-tier for me lately for dps. Shit slaps..
Secret to Vexcalibur is stacking the Overshields with Woven Mail (or Amplified this season with the DR mod). With the stacked DR your Overshields get pretty chunky and the Melee Kill -> Overshield Refresh gameplay actually starts working in higher end content. It's a really good solo setup for Legendary Exotic Missions and things like that.
How is Thunderlord not S tier?
Truth actually got its impact dmg thing fixed now, so its alot more competitive. Also a nice reserves buff
It's unfortunately still pretty bad, need more out of it to justify it using my exotic slot.
thanks for this video, i was about to search this
Ager’s Scepter has definitely been my top exotic for a while. Love freezing clusters of enemies and shattering them all. Then the supercharged mode going even further with the damage (also coolest catalyst upgrade in my book)
I will NOT accept this fighting lion slander
Edit: HOW is outbreak B?
It's a primary that can rival heavy weapons in dmg
All the extra hits build transcendence and super energy really fast
@@ignatoseg4664 it only rivals machine gun dps, its worse than liner (which are sht) and no where close on rivalling meta dps options. Its a backup dmg option for boss dps and is reliable enough for gms as ur heavy is much more limited there
Outbreak is really good this season because of AB Pulse. When there's no AB pulse, its basically untouched - can't rely on seasonal perks for ranking videos that will outlive the seasons
Thank you so much for not making Cerberus the bottom tier gun and giving it some well deserved praise☺️
Salvations grip in f tier is actually stupid. Usually like your content but that’s just dumb
I feel like red death on solar build can be pretty nuts cause you can easily refresh the x2 restoration keeping it uo at 10-15 seconds
Imo ~60% are F tier. Not only are half of them outclassed by legendaries, they also steal the exotic slot making them even less than worthless but actually harming everyone that uses them
I sort of agree. An exotic is either actually usable with utility surpassing the legendary counterpart and also excelling as primary heavy special OR it’s just good for vault.
Destiny 2 is a fairly easy game. Not even an elitist take. Majority of the content can be completed in all blues. Just need the knowledge. So it will not "Harm" anyone for 90% of content in the game for using certain exotics.
I agree. Specially after 3.0 subclasses and the interaction with perks. Some exotics could be amazing and still be nice in game if they have interactions with subclasses.
Bungie was doing some great updates in that but then they just stopped. Sad.
@@Bookerjj I disagree, in the fps world destiny 2 is the hardest game. Surely it’s not Elden ring level but it can still be a hard gam. Maybe you are extremely good at gaming but for the normal player it is hard at high level. Just look a the world first of salvation edge if it was “ fairly easy”, it would have took much less time.
@@r0main.895 Classic selective reading. The difficulty you speak of do not apply to 90% of the content. When 90% of the content you can complete with blues and whatever weapons it's not a difficult game. The OP stated having certain exotics harmful to other players is just not true. As I mentioned knowledge of the game is more important than gear. I am fairly sure even you can carry a blueberry through 95% percent of the content in this game no matter his gear, just as long as he/she is willing to listen.
Thunderlord is great for this season with it's intrinsic anti Overload Champions feature.
I'm using it with the new Corrasion arc pulse with Enlightened + Voltshot and primary Patron of Lost Causes scout with Triple Tap + Kinetic Tremors.
So all champion bases covered and I'm finding this fun with an arc build.
Worst list ever also Outbreak in B tier = Insta dislike
10 years from now I'll remember Zhalo Supercell and the fact it hasn't made it to Destiny 2
Yeah nah, this list ain't it champ. This ain't an objective list that's for sure. I can understand if this is more of a personal preference list, but goddamn these aren't good rankings at all 💀
For me Outbreak with Rewind Rounds is S Tier. Great job on the video. Appreciate the effort and time.
This list doesn’t make any sense
To this day one of my go to pairings is monte Carlo and the mk44 stand asides for your titan.
You can basically always have an overshield while sprinting.
Plus those pants look aweet
This list is laughably bad
Heartshadow is amazing in gm when running a liar handshake build. You get a panic invisibility option for when you somehow loose you ability to one shot punch champions. It also deals decent damage. overall an amazing weapon for a assassin style play style.
Your list doesnt make any sense mate
How so
@@Hei2-fx2oc Ranking Polaris lance as a C tier instead of S tier is 1 reason for me to not take this list seriously. Why is Outbreak not there either?
@@Havocinflames List things Polaris is good at that isn't a GM please
@@Havocinflames Seasonal perks
@@storm9016 Yeah especially with the seasonal perks, Outbreak should be on S tier 🤣
2:54 You should note that heartshadow actually has the highest DPS on crota currently in the game thanks to the lament nerfs
14:36 Rat King is incredibly useful for verity encounter, for players that just want to focus on the mechanics
Fighting Lion was incredible during season of the splicer... never used it since then.
It was bugged during the first season of Lightfall, it did 15x damage to red bars
I would argue...
- Darci, this is basically the same as Fighting Lion but a sniper, using a harder to get ammo, def F Tier as well.
- Skyburners, the ability to top off scorch stacks for ignitions is a really valuable function, as is scorching outright since it synergizes with solar fragments and some aspects as well, should be more C tier. Wicked Implement (also in C tier) is basically the Stasis version of this gun.
- Borealis, now that its double damage on matching shield break perk has been 'Fixed' its actually worse then it used to be, with the current artifact mods its actually pretty cool, but Low D-Tier of a weapon for sure, would be cool if a buff gave it intrinsic incandecent/jolt/destablizing rounds could be way better then
- Ruinous (my fav child) I agree with C tier and not higher, but for completely different reasons, the fact you still see this weapon as a trace rifle + slam dunk is why you don't value it as much.
The loop for this gun is: Get kill to make orb, pickup orb and hit things with it (stacks with surge mods or armor surges) Before orb ammo runs out slam dunk it. Repeat.
The shield drain effect you do while blocking, could be stronger, its good for exploders, or when your swarmed, but drains its energy way to fast.
This synergizes well on void class if you tie into volitile and suppression. I would never use this in end game, hence C tier.
Everything else in the list seems like good placements, I do think the problem with your definition of 'build defining' is somewhat lacking, there are guns you need to build around to be good (C tier and below), there are once that compliment armor builds really well (B tier), and lastly there are ones that shine so brightly on their own (A to S tiers)
Skyburners oath and gunpowder gamble is one of my personal favorite combos in destiny 2 it's sad that such a fun way to play solar hunter isn't used because of it being outshined by still hunt
Prometheus Lens is naturally gonna be less strong if you tap fire it. It reloads on kills and has a ring of fire that grows the longer you shoot. So if you lay on that trigger and have multiple enemies around, you can make a huuuuuuge ring of scorching flames.
Pretty Good list. Some B’s like Necrocasm I would rank as an A tier. It’s its on par with Khvostov. Although there is a skill gap in using it.
I feel like the only way to make the hardlight type weapons better would be to to allow the different elements to apply a debuff whether you destroy a matching shield or get a kill with it
vex caliber is mainly used by titan with wormgod caress. makes the weapon that much more of a monster when paired with the overshield buff
Worldline acrostic does pretty crazy burst damage. You're not going to use it on a raid boss but on champs it's crazy.
My friend let me introduce you to the ergo sum catalyst.
I'm never out of ammo.
I cleared Liminality with it, master SE, you name it. Ergo sum has it all.
Jotünn almost never leaves my exotic slot. If you can't crush a boss in 20 shots, you've done something wrong.
I will forever rep the space jam void beam. That top tier fun factor is truly something that makes me keep coming back to it, plus it has some of the coolest ornaments in the game. I do hope that bungie gives it another opportunity in the limelight again.
Ok overall, there are a few little things that can be argued about.
Heartshadow
- decent for damage with build-in debuff and ok add clear if needed, should be in C-tier
Necro, Outbreak and Revision
- all belong in A-tier, Necro is crazy for add clear (together with Khvostov), Outbreak carries a lot rn, Revision Zero is way better than Wish-Ender in GMs (if you put Revision in B, Wish-Ender belongs there too, or the other way around)
Edit:
I did side by side comparisons of Wish-Ender vs Revision Zero in GMs last season and this season
Revision Zero defeats champions in GMs 50% faster than Wish-Ender can
The only major difference is that Revision requires Aim and Wish-Ender doesn't really
Wishkeeper is heavily overlooked. It was my go to for ad-clear/infinite tormentor suspend in pantheon’s macrocosm encounter.
I was just waiting for the Forerunner and I’m glad it got the recognition it deserved, personally I use it to get four different grenades with a Prismatic Hunter in little under every 2 minutes.
Whisper being under Still Hunt is just crazy
Ngl I like salvations grip for random niche things and onslaught now and then 😂
Yeah, it's definitely not bad. It's mostly there for the meme
I agree with everything here. But outbreak perfected needs to be at least A tier. That thing has insane crowd control. Great range, and with the ‘Catalyst’ it can clear entire rooms, and when used correctly can shred bosses
i just started playing destiny 2 1 week in as a hunter for the first time and i gotta say im loving it and hating it aside from the massive paywalls(expansions)i bought all at a sale for 30$ the fact that we can only choose 1 exotic for armor or weapon forces you to only choose an s tier weapon wich sucks cuz some weapons are so fun to use but i do understand tht 3 exotics would be so chaotic especially with armor but we also gotta realize other games can have all crazy weapons equipped without breaking the game
This is absolutely not the case unless you're doing a Master or Day 1 raid. Use whatever loadout you think is fun since as long as you know what you're doing, you can clear almost all content in the game using whatever you want to
I agree with devils ruin, I would like to say solar hunter with speedloaders slacks can pump insane reloads for perma beams basically, but that is really niche.
Outbreak is literally a cheat code in GM’s with any perk. It melts everything.
As a Tommy's Matchbook fan, I feel I need to rush to its defence. TM I feel is a bit misunderstood. I love the gun and find myself using it very frequently in builds centred around it (Sanguine Alchemy + Ember of Singeing) or mixed in with Prismatic (and devour) as a means to deal with unstoppable champions very easily.
It has weaker ignitions, sure, but it allows for rapid ignition triggers especially when combined with Song of Flame and Ember of Ashes for better crowd control and boss chunking. I will admit that TM has a lot of tradeoffs, but can be very impressive in the right build and can carry you through most higher level content.
I can proudly say that I never took off sunshot and it was my main pve weapon before everyone realized it was still good. From launch it was my favorite and I did kinda wonder why the hell nobody else used it. Season of the wish went insane.
i wonder where huckleberry sits now that it has kinetic tremors and with the peacekeepers buff
I actually use manticore on my titan regularly. There is some uses for it but it's very build heavy