'Mysticism, Spirit and the Shadow' - Jordan Peterson interview part 1
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- Опубліковано 2 січ 2018
- The first part of Rebel Wisdom's exclusive interview with psychologist and professor Jordan Peterson - where he talks in depth about his understanding of mysticism, religion and the challenge of integrating the shadow.
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I love to see JP relaxed with an interviewer who isn’t constantly trying to set a trap for him.
We'd like to hear a talk show hosted by Jordan Peterson
Amen
Matt dillahunty thought he was debating him but he was only interviewing him
A genius thats come into the world doesn't deserve to be tortured the way ive seen and also dislike.
Word. It gets boring watching the traps when the gold is in just listening. He has much wisdom to share that pushes me into more inquiry.
Jordan Peterson seems to be to Western thought what Alan Watts was to Eastern thought. He presents a very compelling and interesting collection of the best lessons from an entire tradition and presents them in a way that you can effectively integrated into your life. Fantastic stuff.
Peterson isn't comparable to Alan Watts... Watts is a hack..
Don't Waste Time On UA-cam a hack? Do explain
Thanks! Always looking for another voice to consider
Watts is nothing either next to McKenna
Watts is beyond all of you
“Humans are all too powerful to be naive. we are not going to survive unless we face our darkness.”
-J Peterson, circa 2019
Kotodama Midnight The Shadow
Mind the dynamics
Kotodama Midnight He has a son and a daughter.
While simultaneously embracing the power of laser light...
Mega group
This man wears a cardigan like a boss.
“Pull over…no it’s a cardigan, thanks for noticing”
This is the Dr. Peterson I love. Calm, wise, funny.
embrace his shadow too. Don't just nitpick the parts you like ;)
One time someone asked CS Lewis where evil comes from and he said, "I have to look no further than my own heart."
Yup when we see snakes around is because they’re deep in the depths of our hearts as well
Muy basado mis hermanos
Him and his little cup. So relaxed. He deserves every interview to be like this, not attacks and anxiety ridden clashes that he needs days to recover from
Agreed, the reason they attack is because they know if they allow him to speak, they can't disprove what he speaks. Best way to defeat an idea is to stop it from taking root in the first place. Im paraphrasing 1984.
21:32
"You’re stuck with a certain number of profound experiences, and all of them can be negative if you let the default manifest itself."
That statement really resonated with me. It took me a while to realise from ruminating on my own suffering that when brought down to its most cardinal form, it all came from me letting the world go by, and allowing time to decide things for me, instead of actively making things happen for myself.
You just shook me to my core.
Yeah over simplification of complex matters can do you in.
First time I've heard Peterson interviewed by someone who also had something to say. Nicely done.
Let me watch this about 50 more times to pick apart all the nuances. Holy crap...he puts out more intricate ideas within 30 seconds than the average person does in 30 days lol.
I would go further and say more intricate ideas than the avarage person puts out in their whole life
LOL yes!
@timwins31 you got it!
or 30 life times
Dr Peterson is difficult to follow at times, as his presentations tend to have a rambling "stream of consciousness" quality to them. Audiences exposed to jungian philosophy in a Freudian style tend to glaze over & wake up just in time to applaud like seals. Contrast Peterson's output with that of structured speakers, e.g., the late Christopher Hitchens, George Will, W.F. Buckley or the like.
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4:30 I agree with Dr. Peterson here... I've been to raves and nightclubs where in the later hours of the event, the music gets better and everyone is dancing and making a statement but it felt like we were all on the same frequency.. like there was this unspoken mutual understanding that's beyond our human condition... times like that where I felt so connected to the "family"... i love that feeling of unity with my brothers and sisters.
Drugs and booze kick in better around then also
barsenovic
I find it all too rare in this world that amazing feeling of collectively sharing HEALTHY love and unity.
Too often what people feel is collective pathology and the shared horror of the mob mentality.
Great way to describe those moments of higher inclusivity. I call that the One . . .in the many. But, without that "many" . . .there is no One.
lol molly frequency
E'zzz are good too !
I'm in awe of this man's intelligence and eloquence! And I love the way he says "body"!
Im a 45 yr old Canadian white guy. I totally believe the good Dr to be a perfect Canadian. This was what men were, and were encouraged to be like when I was young. Rugged manhood, tempered with love, intelligence responsibility and self sacrifice....I dont know why/how/when it all changed......
Andrew Mckeown "perfect canadian?"
Rock n' roll and late 60s counter culture happened.
So well said
Type in: General Miles talks with Chief Sitting Bull. enjoy
"white" guy
diamond in the rough, this deserves more views.
Jordan Peterson is prophet of modern times.
Don't call him a prophet. You'll make him a target for muslims.
MUSICAL ALCHEMY IS AT THE HEART OF THIS: ua-cam.com/video/oRMQVugM2rQ/v-deo.html
haha, well, that is a good point :)
Keneetyypoioiii😄😎😁😏😆😍😍😅😃😑neth Vo
(Serious) I'm coming down from probably the most eye opening/life changing psychedelic experience I'll ever have and I'm simply amazed at how much of what I learned during the trip is basically confirmed in this video.
Both experiences you've had here refined your spirit, never let your divinity be tarnished
👽👨🚀
Wow! You just confirmed my theory. I was debating with a friend last week about that topic because he had some experiences with psychedelic drugs and I don't, but I'm studying the work of JBP and psychology in general for a long time now and it made me so much more self aware (and I have a great interest in philosophy as well). So I made the assumtion that deep analysis and interspection can lead to simular insights as taking psychedelic drugs, at least that's what everything is pointing towards. He seems a little bit sceptic about it because he doesn't see the other side of the coin yet ......but you right there confirmed it.
@@vincentlaw1415 I am disappointed in your friend. I am a seasoned psychonaut and the morning after my first acid trip was the first day I saw beyond the veil, but the path you are on is the truer path. The main medicine in psychedelics is in dissolving the ego and allowing you to observe the universe as a part of it as opposed to the story you have written about it from your limited perspective. Drugs are just a cheat code or a back door. There is always the possibility they will show you something you aren't ready for or incapable of understanding.
Liar.
He compels me to think and be proud of striving for truth. He is the man I wish I could be
I literally have had shivers down my spine for the first 10 minutes of this video. I don’t know how to explain it very well and i know that maybe it’s a wasted comment here... but none the less I am grateful for this video and both speakers
not wasted, thanks for sharing that. For others like you, it's comforting and empowering to know that the message is making its reach, and the personal empowerment is felt. You're another blip on the radar of the revolution. Never feel like such an act is wasted
Brandon Begley
Yes wasted was the wrong word. What I was trying to say is that It had a profound impact that I couldn’t explain very well. Glad it has resonated with others.
The veil has been removed and now you are starting to “see” and understand.
For me it was the last 10 minutes before the logo.
"Shivers down the spine" sounds to me, as an internal movement of the soul. Put in motion through the attunement of your soul to the intonation of his voice and the meaning of what he communicates to you in that moment.
He's changing my life.
Jari Jansma Fuckin same
Chuka O how and why is he pathetic? Sounds like you're someone that needs a bit of life changing yourself...if you consider some one who needs motivation and inspiration to change their life as being pathetic...then what does that say about you? You'd only say that about someone else if you're insecure about yourself...maybe do a bit of self examination before judging others buddy
💥!
Absolutely right.
Waylon Hicken don't worry they are a late bloomer... They'll get it sooner or later :)
The Late Bloomer … What a egotistical response.. ironically! if he is listening to Peterson and applying his message, he's in fact doing the opposite of being pathetic.
"We are too powerful to be naiive" basically sums up what I've been trying to convey to the people around me for the last couple of years. It is not easy to shake somebody (full grown adults, I mean) out of naivety as it comes with a very comfortable cushion of irresponsibility... for years I felt like I've been drowning in a sea of carelessness, dispassionate attitudes and cynicism; JP has helped me gain clarity to my situation, to what I stand for; he ingeniously found a way to put it into words that ever present "thing" that consistently has me down and that I am forbidden from talking about. It ignites rage in people when addressing certain truths too directly.
I know first hand about the power of emotionally-underdeveloped adults. I think being the younger sibling allowed me this perspective.... they say younger siblings are the most pampered. Perhaps, although that comes with the burden of two things: not being taken seriously, ever, and being very easily influenced by most everybody, since instinctively you feel that everyone is more powerful than you, so the best survival strategy is to be a good follower; then you realize, not everyone enjoys being followed even if they say they do. Even if they think they do.
Bearifiable Pau ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ youngest of four. and at 56 still treated as if I'm 9.
A. You're super cute.
B. You're wise beyond your years.
C. It's refreshing to see young ladies getting it - JP is the wise person's smart person...good for you.
@@ducksinarowpatience3670 Maybe you mean, you "feel" you are still treated as if you were 9? I am the youngest of 3 and father of 4 so I don't have time to feel as if I were 9. I do understand what you are saying though.
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@@smsimms7593 thanks!
My life is forever changed after watching this. More research is needed. I'm hungry.
My favorite of jp so far, and I’ve been obsessing over him watching his videos everyday for over a year. If you want to comprehend the concept of “integration” as it applies your experience of self on this planet, this video will take you farther and deeper into understanding, as everything he says s
Is nestled within archaic foundations of spiritual truth.
Chelsea Reid
Yeah, but by not crediting those ‘archaic foundations’, most of which are Nile Valley sources, Mr Peterson heaps much well deserved praise on Carl Gustave Jung instead of on mr Jung’s AFRAKAN Nile valley sources. Mr. Jung derived his archetype theory from his study of the KMTK Neteru ( misnomered “gods and goddesses in order to defame AFRAKAN Thought as polytheistic. If we are talking TRUTH, let’s go all the way.
@@baabaheru1284 I've never heard of what you're talking about but it sounds well interesting, thanks for sharing
Chelsea Reid
Beautifully said.
@chelsia reid
Have you ever had that kind of spiritual experience?
Who is this man!!!???
OMG!! I have found truth!! I completely relate.
Wow....Thank You!!
Life changing.
Welcome to the rabbit hole
Really glad to hear that! :)
He was born in Grand Prairie Alberta and went to school around the same time as Rachel Notley and Chrystia Freeland and read the same books . infect one of there mom was the librarian .
Wot ar you all serious
Man… Man … Man … This Man is Amazing !!! When he talk about the continual undermining of the child being a sophisticated way to violent them !!! This Man is the most important person of this decade for sure !!!
andre rollin
I think Jordan Peterson is doing for the fields of Philosophy and Psychology and Mysticism what the Beatles did for music.
Potential for havoc. One who understands one sword is so sharp yet remains sheathed for the benefit of all!
Andrew Hibberd
Yes. That is Mature Power.
Known in the bible as The Meek
truly brilliant. count yourself lucky if you've seen this.
"Gentlemen, you had my curiosity… but now you have my attention."
Armando Salgado That's a quote from Django Unchained.
Lord Kittens McTavish The D is silent. 😂
Yes!
Amy Pellegrini 🙌🏼
I enjoyed the calm, gentle nature of this interview. Both people seem very relaxed and at ease discussing these topics. Great content also. Thank you for sharing.
The Rebel Wisdom guy is documenting this stuff, but in this video shared a bit of his own personal journey.
"you take your responsibility for moving the world closer to the heaven or hell"
This.
How do you know this, Eve?? Lol
@Bigboy Littleman right
Ugh! 'Heaven and Hell' are such dualistically unrealistic ideas, such Zoroastrian based Christian ideals which are blatantly over generalized and not reflective of the complexities of reality.
@@whatabouttheearth elaborate, what is a realistic view on these realities?
this is how an interview should be held
More of a discussion.
Imagine having a therapy session with Dr Peterson. The amount of value to be found in his interviews, lectures and public speeches is immense. A personal conversation would be mind blowing to say the least...
It will be interesting to hear from Dr. Peterson once he has fully recovered from his present difficulty. No doubt he will have been profoundly changed by the experience. I have tremendous respect for Dr. Peterson.
When he said “I had experiences when everything came together “ I feel like that is what other gurus and saints experience when they say they got enlightened ,,
Maybe he has experienced some miracles.
@@AnnaLVajda yea, he mentioned about that in some other videos
27:05 "If you're gonna play with fire, you better be a master of fire"
Don't know where he got that from, but I wrote it down regardless
Willlly61 JP is a Master Blacksmith
Same!
Well thats stupid, because you only learn to walk by falling on your face.
Its not like "masters" are just shit out, you cant become a 'master of fire' without being a rookie of fire for a long time.
@@whatabouttheearth Talk about stupid. Taking a metaphor too far much? It's a kitschier blurb about criticizing the world before you have your own house in order - wisdom with which I'm guessing you'd disagree.
Be the fire.
You 2 have genuine chemistry that is pleasurable to watch play out within a fascinating discussion!
More please!!! :)
I would love to interview his wife.
She must be amazing in her own right.
You better hurry - she has metastatic cancer..
Lo Anne Light
That’s a beautiful observation. I’m sure his wife is a fountain of wisdom and vitality. I have the sense that you’re quite amazing in your own right.
like wife, like husband. They are one
@@lollUK she died?
So I keep hearing lol
"They were done with putting up their hands to go to the bathroom". Love this guy, man.
I think this might be one of my favourite interviews of JBP. Subscribed
This person is a blessing to humanity.
Jordan I have never watched you but at 61
I am from the Old School raising my Grandson and I absolutely love the way that you think.You are right on in your thinking.I work so hard to do all the right things for the young one with my husband and totally ❤️ agree with you.I could tell you how hard I have fought for this little one whom is very smart.It seems as though schools in general to some children are against the children instead of helping them.Their idea of help is Adderall well not mine.Im homeschooling.What a job but I love him.Thank you for the information will subscribe as you talk Real.
Nice to hear truth 👍💯
Thank you for sacrificing for the future and for walking in love!
JBP at his best along with the camera work, editing and gentle interviewing Thankyou all
beautifully shot, great interview too, thanks for that mate!
Nice framing huh. Beautiful 3rds.
Every single thing this man says puts an emotional bullet into my soul. Most times I just can't take it, because I don't feel like crying tonight or whatever... But, damn.
Thanks for the interesting post. The true nature of the religious experience. "For the core of religious faith is that mystic feeling which unites Man with God." ~ Shoghi Effendi, Baha'i Faith
This has got to be one of my favorite Jordan Peterson interviews.
What he’s talking about musically I witnessed in full bloom at a Tool concert during ozzfest 98. I was at the Massachusetts show what was then call Great Woods. They opened with Stinkfist and when I looked around every sing person in the crowd was nodding to the rhythm. It was an amazing pulse effect and looked like the people’s movements were dictated by the vibrations from the music. It was almost indescribable but if you were there you felt like I did and that everyone there was one being at that moment.
JP is such a boss. I'm addicted.
I've only just found jordan peterson and he's help my mental health out no end .
I needed someone as wise as you to point me in the right direction 60 years ago, Dr Peterson. I'm so glad I've found you now. I felt I was drifting aimlessly on an endless sea.
Right on! This is by far the best and most accurate explanation I have heard of mysticism and what it is trying to convey through its specific language. We need more of these people.
I love listening to this man lecture! I’ve been keeping him and his family in my prayers after learning of their travails. Wishing them well! Can’t wait for you to have him back. He will be even more wise after what he’s been through. 🙏🏼💗🙏🏼
*“I knew that in finding the mandala as an expression of the Self I had attained what was for me the ultimate. Perhaps someone else knows more, but not I."* -Carl Jung
Memories, Dreams, Reflections, Jung’s Autobiography
recorded and edited by Aniella Jaffe pg. 197
I love to listen to Dr. Peterson. This is perhaps his best interview to date. Very deep and multi-layered. Sharing.
At his finest, may you have a speedy recovery...
JP is changing my life. So glad i found him.
Its an amazing inner journey he shows me, also i learn a few new english words, he is probably the best teacher i ever had. Thnx!
As usual, my brain and heart have exploded after listening to JP! Thanks for this great interview.
Very engaging interview, great job!
God bless you all. Thank you. Searched on ‘distinguishing the shadow’ and learned so much from your conversation. Long time fan of CG Jung and experiencing incredible organic awakening after years of commitment. So worth it👍🏼💕👊
I need to explore this shadow business too. Don't know where/how to start, got any tips?
This is absolutely remarkable. What I can say to anyone who is serious about exploring the questions posed here is: read Rudolf Steiner. Steiner was a clairvoyant who endeavored to make a scientific exploration of psychic/mystical experiences, basically trying to put a name to things experienced by shamans and gurus (among others) and make them accessible to the Western rational mind. I'd recommend starting with Theosophy, then try to tackle Esoteric Science. Not easy reading but worth the effort in my opinion. I think Jordan Peterson would find his work highly enlightening and inspiring.
He literally described most of what i went after enlightenment, and why u should recognize your bad side and choose the good side as oppose to the bad side of you. The way he describes stages of intelectual and spiritual knowledge and awarness and the realization of you being one with everything and everyone is amazing.
well done. long time fan and follower of JP. i wish you well with Rebel Wisdom. i feel i might be 'Rebel Catholic'.. someone needs to be (st francis was a long while ago..).
I know, this is going to sound all kinds of SJW, hear me out.
The power of materialist science is in the extent to which it is able to detach its own gaze from that which it analyses. It itself is clearly (see Tom Woods) an outgrowth of the Western European Christian tradition. That's why for eg. Hinduism has yoga, and why it never could have lead by itself to scientific materialism - for good and ill.
Yes Christianity has incarnation, Spirit in Nature, the sacredness of the body etc as a deep concept. Yet the fruits of the West don't instantiate the case that this is a deep value, at least enough for it to be held and contained, whilst other parts of the tradition countered it. The divided house indeed. JBP instantiates this himself, by not attending Church "because of the lying pastors". The West itself instantiates this division via the disembodied consciousness ideal of transhumanism.
Put it this way more simply - why are most SJWs post Christian Whites? As irrational as what they say is, that is too coherent a pattern to ignore what their existence points towards.
Always with the green sweater. I want one. When is the JP clothing line coming out?
Let me know when it does. Leaving my comment here.
@@tristanteotcteo www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/2320154-lobster-hierarchy
That was one of the best interviews I have ever watched! Brilliant minds! Xx
Great work, perfect questions. No surprise that people are having goosebumps. It's exciting that ideas that 20 years ago would have gone in one ear and out the other with most people are sticking and resonating, just really wonderful. Thanks!
Amazing. I subscribed as I thought the adoption of the principles Peterson purports would be powerful for mens work and self development as a whole. Blown away that you actually travelled over to meet the man. I'm in. - Midlands
Thank you! Would be great to have you join us at our Weekend Intensive in February - www.rebelwisdom.co.uk/events
I'm in The Midlands too. I'd love to attend one of your events in the future.
I'm midlands also! Fancy a beer?
When I was younger I was the type of person who would get drunk in my moms basement and fantasize about the most brutal things. And then I'd sober up the next day and I'd feel like a scared, pathetic little mouse who couldn't move. And I didn't know which of me was the "real" me. Was I this sociopathic anti-hero or was I this pathetic, scared little mouse? Well, Peterson is right that it can seem preferable to be the tyrant than to be the weakling. Overtime I've realized that I am of course both of those forces, and that they in fact grew up beside each other and are the opposite ends of the same spectrum. But at the time, it was a serious crises and the thought that I was either some evil maniac OR some pathetic coward was terrifying.
William I'm not sure what they would call that crisis, however I experienced the same thing. Thought that I was losing my mind at the time.
Good work, both of you. Impressive.
I had the same thing happen in my head growing up, but always told myself I was one of the good guys..... then one day I almost killed a bully. I never again let myself go down into a blind rage, I was definitely scared of what I could do all of the sudden. And the world around me forever changed after that as well.
I love seeing so many men, especially, being able to draw these conclusions. Women too, as I have done the same, but I think it’s a lot harder for men (Jung says the same) so it’s more notable when it happens.
Which is why Peterson’s work is so insanely crucial for men in particular. So much so, that on an unconscious level they seem to know this too, as they’re such a large percentage of those tuning into it.
You were a scared, pathetic, little mouse. You just evolved beyond that. And your shadow is not evil. Black is not evil. Wake up. You are surrounded by blackness half the time. Everything the Creator created is good. Stop imagining black as evil. Rain comes from blackness. Trees grow in blackness. We all came out of a black hole.
This is soooooo good! I have goosebumps listening and taking it all in. Brilliant explanation of religion and mysticism. I love this man’s brain!
I've seen too much of JP., how could I not see this great interview!
This has enriched me with a ton of new meaning, thanks for uploading.
It's nice to hear a perspective that inspires us to be better, to do better. There is to much of a "Why Bother" out there these days.
Respect.
Excellent talk and professional production values.
Much abliged fellas!
This Man Is Truly Enlightened! I feel amazing after seeing this. Spoke to my soul! Coulda watched another hour lol.
22:33 I feel Peterson is referencing Handy here
““I hope if dogs take over the world, and they choose a king, they don't just go by size, because I bet there are some Chihuahuas with some good ideas.” - Jack Handy”
And in all seriousness, I like that someone is trying to pin him down on the subject of Mysticism. I think he’s Jung at heart.
When I was a kid there was a house on our block that we thought was haunted. We always heard screams coming from that house and the people that went in never came back out. Later on we found out that was just a muderer's house. -Jack Handy
Democracy what
can't wait for part 2
What a great interview! Thank you for covering these topics.
Genius points. His words ignite action in me. You can not be weak and truly kind. Your shadow side must be absorbed. Then!
"A person who knows he is a monster and integrates his shadow is dangerous in the sense that he has the potential to wreak havoc. If this is not done consciously, it is a bad thing". I see this all the time in military commanders, especially generals. Their job definition requires some amount of monstrosity and they integrate 'the fight' into their psyche so much so that they tend to attack themselves during peace times. An ordinary person - a journalist, a farmer, a housewife - rarely has the same amount of shadow integration and it's always an illuminating encounter when such two parties meet for a debate. I had seen a shocking "nagotiation talk" arranged by KFOR forces between a Serbian general who was a mass murderer and a school teacher who knew absolutely nothing about monsters and how to deal with them. In the end, the KFOR people forsake the villagers who were taken to a field and butchered to the last man. Those mass murderers are the ones who integrate the shadow unconciously, not integrating but becoming the monster as a result. Integrating the monster means having control on it to an extent that its uses are reserved for only the most dire; life or death kind of situations. A skill I wish that School teacher had when facing that genocidal maniac. ANYONE can integrate the shadow with enough effort but it comes more naturally to some - military people, law enforcement, criminals, politicians, etc. - while the ordiary masses lack even the awareness for the necessity of doing so. The shadow is not always anger or aggression mind you, it can be any one or more of the cardinal sins. I find mine to be sloth rather than anger for instance. My shadow is lazy af and I am doing my best these days to integrate and passify it.
I was a drug addict and I thank God for it because it helped me to understand that Shadow and integrate it. I still have alot to do but I've started at least.
In times of peace the warrior turns on himself. I forgot who said that
My shadow is lazy af too 😂
How do practice its integration?
The shadow you describe is a fear of your own mortality.
Absolutely! ua-cam.com/video/50bJ2pyTE78/v-deo.html
i would love to hear dr petersons thoughts on why it is so dangerous to be alone in one's life the cause and effects and how to fix loneliness😒
Few can be rightly compared to Dr Peterson. His education, experience, reflection, and morality are on such fine display as is the eloquence and passion with which they are expounded. In this day (as I restudy the end of the Roman republic) I can only think of Cato the Younger as an example with which to compare. Regardless of the times, attacks, and outrageous disregard for the truth and freedom, they both stood as pillars of these very virtues that each society claimed to represent. These two great men have stood in front of the ever growing storm and shouted “I will not cede.” And that bravery and commitment is something we all must aspire to in our own lives.
Excellent, revealing conversation, David is so good at this, leaving space for exploration and elaboration.
"Implicit potential for havoc" = one humble bad ass
Peterson is so on point, modern day/updated version of crazy wisdom....love this man
What a great interview with Jordan Peterson! Thank you JP, your words are very helpful.
I love this man!! (JP) Beautiful articulation of the human experience! Pure art!
good times produce weak men, weak men produce hard times, hard times produce strong men, strong men produce good times
He makes me realize my life....
I look back at my childhood and I thank God every day that I made it to 18. My parents were a horrible dynamic. My mom was authoritarian, manipulative, mean. My dad was well...he was very submissive and weak-minded. They prided themselves in punishing me for everything I did wrong, while not praising or appreciating the good things that I did. They were also very hypocritical as they would always tell me to always be myself, but then scold me the second I do just that. Oh, and then there was my sister...let's just say she's the mini-me version of my mom.
And Jordan Peterson is right. I did "get my revenge" in a sense. The second I turned 18 I walked out the door and never looked back. I'm now 26 and happily married and fathering a child.
The more I listen to this - I learn about myself more - thank you for bringing this speech in videl
This must be one of the most comprehensive conversations on the human condition, ever😂
44 year old Australian here. Peterson reminds me of when the Simpsons came out... it was funny but also just a relief to know other people had my sense of humor and outlook. Peterson goes too far in some regards, especially in his support of hard-heads like Ben Shapiro, but overall it's a relief and a pleasure to see his work and hear his talks online. I've been on quite a journey in recent years and much of what I have had to accept and realize neatly gibes with Peterson's thoughts. Good stuff.
On Polarization, plenty of people I would otherwise agree with have a quite disappointing attitude to Peterson. Yes he does support views that go beyond sensible, but anyone who is taking this shit seriously is bound to. I shun polarized people now and focus on what is right rather than who is right. Peterson is right about a lot of stuff and it's often stuff no one is saying. He is actually a bridge between divided camps.
Interesting how you "shun polarized people" but also reveal that YOU are polarized. "Peterson goes too far?" According to you, obviously. But the statement reveals that YOU are thinking of yourself as one who knows how things SHOULD be. That's polarized.
Deeply rich with nuance and contemplative wisdom. Thank you for sharing 🙏
he looks way younger than he should compared to now, great man and busy doing good work! THis was such a great interview and relaxed conversation. thanks Rebel wisdom!! keep it up.
"In my Father's House there are many Mansions; I go there to prepare a place for Thee" (Jesus)
that word "mansions" in the Greek can also mean "dimensions"
Sinclair
@Clark Kent if you like that statement you "should" read the entire bible. i did. but i personally recommend you read the short "new testament (300 pages) part" ! you might be blown away what's in there, because many times the 'world' only learns about the arguably, "extremely," controversial old testament teachings ( and those are often de-contextualized, to make things even worse! ). Before i read the new testament i would have been inclined to your articulation of the idea of 'dimensions'. After reading i would be more like, "hey, who turned the light on?! I am suddenly seeing many, many, many, rooms and many, many, many dimensions all together now!
Love it.
A story of 1 person written about in 4 versions of the same 1 chapter...think about that, most people only know about Jesus from one chapter of a book, the gospel story, which is repeated in 4 different ways.
I think, it's true what Dr. Peterson said about being hardened when we get integrated; the childish view of the world if no longer keeps us from seeing the world as it really is.
On the subject of harmony in music concerts, I'll give the example of the Eagle's California Hotel (MTV unplugged) in 1994. I'm impressed by the harmony between the crowd cheering , clapping, and band members playing. I even prefer this version to the studio release.
Paul NJ watched it. Good rendition. They feel at home and look content.
Excellent interview. Thank you and thank you Dr Peterson.
PS- This interview, done four years ago, is the most relaxed I have ever "seen" Dr. Peterson. It's amazing (painful) to see what the last four years have done to him. I deeply appreciate his willingness to stand for his beliefs and take on opposing views in a very measured and disciplined manner.
I really related to music being a mystical experience. Some feeling and emotions are hard to explain.Age brings a little more clarity to these experiences.
Psalm 111:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.
There is nothing to fear in the presence of god.
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JBP explaining the Rebel Wisdom logo is the gift I didn't know I needed. :)
No matter how weak any may perceive me I am the divine Light of loving strength !!!
We all have the loving strength the loving knowledge it resides Within .