Sundown SA vs Skar DDX! Which Subwoofer Should You Buy And Why?

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  • Опубліковано 10 гру 2019
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  • @markguerrero5915
    @markguerrero5915 4 роки тому +201

    I agree with your review. For some of us bass heads, more bang for our bucks is the only option, with having a family to support but still enjoy and be into the bass hobbies. Great reviews, bro!

    • @ParkerTheBasshead
      @ParkerTheBasshead  4 роки тому +7

      Thanks man!!

    • @jayholt2101
      @jayholt2101 4 роки тому +15

      Yes that’s what I’m facing right now. A family to support but still want da bass.

    • @MrArahi12
      @MrArahi12 4 роки тому +8

      I have a nice size family I have to support also but I was able to get an EMF Audio 15 for $152 off of the site. I have a Taramps Smart 3 on it and it’s kind of amazing!!! Did not break the bank at all.

    • @OscarGonzalez-iz6lx
      @OscarGonzalez-iz6lx 4 роки тому +1

      Mark Guerrero well said!

    • @jakobaarav7722
      @jakobaarav7722 3 роки тому +1

      Dont know if anyone gives a damn but if you're bored like me during the covid times you can stream pretty much all of the latest movies and series on instaflixxer. Been watching with my brother for the last weeks =)

  • @sullivansouza2709
    @sullivansouza2709 4 роки тому +14

    Love your sub comparison vids and all the extra effort you put into them! This channel is one of a kind, keep em coming!!

  • @miiiikee_
    @miiiikee_ 4 роки тому +19

    I love my SA’s and I’ll keep running them til/if I decide to upgrade. if I couldn’t have swung the price on them I wouldn’t hesitate to run skar. Different strokes for different folks. Get the best you can afford or justify spending.

  • @Wiggy74
    @Wiggy74 4 роки тому +10

    I’m running a single Skar Audio DDX-10 D4 in a 1.25 cubic inch aero-ported box from High Output Enclosures....goes low and hits hard 🔊

  • @adamloos1388
    @adamloos1388 4 роки тому +13

    I’ve got a pair of those Sundowns in my truck on a 2200W amp, they take that power all day even in a slightly undersized ported box (to fit stealth under the back seat). They’re underrated on power and have sounded great for almost 3 years now.

  • @Luisv951
    @Luisv951 4 роки тому +63

    I would love to buy expensive subs and amps but if I don’t have the money to spare, I go with whatever I can afford as long as it’s good and it gives me good bass! Bass ftw!

    • @Pkdimmock
      @Pkdimmock 4 роки тому

      With you 👍🏼

    • @lievfrei8963
      @lievfrei8963 4 роки тому +2

      I enjoy all car audio from the low to the high

    • @earlgraves5568
      @earlgraves5568 4 роки тому

      takumi kuruzagi how do you feel bout L7’s? Compare them to cadence wild beasts

    • @Luisv951
      @Luisv951 4 роки тому

      Earl Graves l7’s are cool but I never had or bought candence audio, I did buy 1 American bass sub and dam I’m impressed it rattles my little crv lol

    • @raymedina8328
      @raymedina8328 4 роки тому

      @@earlgraves5568 l7 subs suck cadence wins.

  • @Mike-qo4kp
    @Mike-qo4kp 3 роки тому +13

    "If money was no object" thats how the phrase goes.

  • @dirtboy896
    @dirtboy896 4 роки тому +11

    Sundown all day! Cant wait to pick out my x8 v.3's!

  • @dieseldiesel9292
    @dieseldiesel9292 4 роки тому +5

    I put 1 of the DDX-12's in my Cobalt with the Skar RP-1000.1 Amp and it's phenomenal. I've had it for about a year now and it's still going strong and I beat the crap out of it. It actually got better the longer I've had it. I think it just needed broken in. It probably sounds different in a bigger vehicle like this one but, My car is small so it's perfect. My rear view mirror is basically useless lol.

    • @AvidantMusic
      @AvidantMusic Рік тому

      Same, My DDX 12 D4 is in my 4 Door Civic EX 5 speed. Just the one on a Kicker CXA 1200.1 and My mirrors are useless Lol. I just got through the break in period and my car is holding in for dear life Lol. Now I gatta find those sound dampening things in hops to keep the rattling to a minimum Lmao

  • @TurboJohn74
    @TurboJohn74 4 роки тому +12

    As much as we enjoy the music demo, it doesn't replace being there. If you had the chance for another enclosure, it would be great to have them each tone swept and metered. It's the subtle differences musically, that can sway to one or the other. For a made-up example, the Skar could have higher overall output across the board, but then the Sundown could have a lower freq roll off. Some want high output, some will take slightly lower output for a wider freq range and accuracy. These days with the technology being way beyond 1990s tech, you CAN have SQ with a great spl output. Keep up the great work, would love to see more

    • @bdc211
      @bdc211 4 роки тому

      true that.. i have a couple vvx 8 v3s and a couple sa 8 v3s, and the skar has a wider range, and sundown gets louder with more roll off on the low... i prefer the range over the volume.. its so close in the volume, that it doesnt really matter... the sundown definetly seems more durable in the coils tho.... can take more power than skar.. my personal review pretty much yielded same results.. and the same thing happened in 4 different enclosures.... i prefer the skar sound myself.. which suits me, as i save quite a bit of money lol...

    • @jimjones3287
      @jimjones3287 2 роки тому

      I can hear more bass notes on the sundown. ddx sounds like its just good at one bass note. and the sundown sounds louder even though ddx has higher sensitivity.

  • @marcjames8103
    @marcjames8103 4 роки тому +12

    I like the ddx series. They play a really deep note in my civic. Running 2 12s on a taramp 3k hd. Plus soundstream epicenter and pioneer deh4220bt radio and they dig deep. My voltage only drops from 14.3-13.8 after each bass note and I hit a clean 144 db with those subs

    • @dantheisen35
      @dantheisen35 2 роки тому

      Really!?? Awesome

    • @dantheisen35
      @dantheisen35 2 роки тому +1

      Ohhhh you running a 3000 watt amp tho haha i see

    • @bondalero0074
      @bondalero0074 2 роки тому +1

      (1) DDX DVC2 running on a D4S JP8 and I’ve had 10” SDR,SVR,EVL, & DDX does best for my needs by far running at 1 ohm with a 1k wattage limit!#Skar#DDX❤

    • @blazeaglory
      @blazeaglory Рік тому

      Yeah I got the 10" 2ohm with a 2400w ZEUS amp. Its mounted in a regular black carpet SKAR 1.25 CF 39mhz ported box and it hits hard AF! I really do think it sounds better with age

  • @UniqueThaPoet
    @UniqueThaPoet 4 роки тому +7

    I like the way skar subs looks. More aggressive imo. I just replaced my alpine type r 12 . Skar hits harder then the alpine.

  • @deandretaylor21
    @deandretaylor21 4 роки тому +1

    I love them both I've had both using my skar now in my car

  • @davidlunsford6155
    @davidlunsford6155 4 роки тому +1

    Great job 👍. I just found your channel and have been binge watching. I'm a sub now💯 my brother has two of Skars 8's in his truck underneath the rear seat. If you didn't know that they were 8's and then found out that they were after hearing them. You'd be impressed. I have a 2015 beetle that I'm fixing to do. All the speakers are Skar. I don't remember the type. But there not Skars basic speakers. The 4 6.5's will be ran on a Kenwood 4ch amp and the 10" Skar sub in there box will be on a Rockford 1ch mono amp. With a Kenwood head unit. I went with Skar speakers and sub from hearing his. I can't wait to get it in. Beetles have great shape for good acoustics on the inside.

  • @christornusmc
    @christornusmc 4 роки тому +46

    Had the SA’s, after a coil shifted I went with the DDX’s and I personally think the DDX’s have a over all better response and performance across the board. The only thing I have to wait and see is if the DDX’s can last 4 years before something goes wrong.
    Did a 147.8 at 43hz with the SA’s.

    • @jr1001jr
      @jr1001jr 4 роки тому +2

      What did you meter with the Skar DDX?

    • @BenaresDarkness
      @BenaresDarkness 3 роки тому +7

      Jacob Fuller helped with the design of the ddx that's why it's so similar to the SA v1's.

    • @DirtySouthFlorida3
      @DirtySouthFlorida3 3 роки тому +3

      Was it the same box and amp and car?? When u compared

    • @UzsDc1UZ
      @UzsDc1UZ 3 роки тому +4

      Wait Jacob, the sundown ceo, helped design the ddx?

    • @christornusmc
      @christornusmc 3 роки тому +2

      @@DirtySouthFlorida3 yes. Everything was the same.

  • @MikeMolden
    @MikeMolden 4 роки тому +3

    Both of these are companies I plan on shopping with very soon. Skar for one vehicle and sundown on the other. Gonna be fun.

    • @MikeMolden
      @MikeMolden 4 роки тому

      sa v2 and an evl 12.

    • @2002ZRX1200R
      @2002ZRX1200R 4 роки тому +1

      Take the time to design the enclosures to the actual specs of the woofers and not the generic ones manufacturers post for those who don't know how to figure out box volumes and tunings that actually match the drivers.

  • @ogd
    @ogd 4 роки тому +5

    I rock with the videos heavy been supporting since you first started doing audio videos! As a fan I would love to see you bump some 15s 🔥🔥🔥

    • @catch22frubert
      @catch22frubert 4 роки тому

      I've been hoping the same thing since he built that box. If you are only running a single sub, and you want spl, I think a single 15 does the job much better. He can almost run a 15 in that box. I believe it's 3 cubes. You can do 3.5 cubes for most 15's.

  • @earlpark4956
    @earlpark4956 4 роки тому +4

    Good video was very informative I went with the skar svr 12 d2 I'm very happy with them think you are doing a great job with the videos .bass on dude

    • @ParkerTheBasshead
      @ParkerTheBasshead  4 роки тому

      Thanks man! I really like the SVR. Great sub for the price

  • @izaakavenaluckyss1933
    @izaakavenaluckyss1933 4 роки тому +54

    I've had both but something about the sundown is just makes me feel better but I like skar . And yes those SA hit very hard

    • @jessicaking2646
      @jessicaking2646 3 роки тому +5

      Sundown subs no matter which model n size always will put a smile on ppls faces. They are absolutely amazing subs. And skar as well what i love about skar audio is they make the same subs almost as sundown same looks same power ect like 99.9% identical and slash the price in half just about.. So they try to help ppl get stupid loud systems at the fraction of the cost as orion hccas sundowns ect ect.. But still sundown is like bass royalty now days lol

    • @haydenwiseman3056
      @haydenwiseman3056 3 роки тому +3

      @@jessicaking2646 yea though most of sundowns products are way underrated. my 2 e-12s are taking power from a dc audio 2.0k which is double rated. and they have been tsking that for almost a year. definitely cant say the same for a skar sub.

    • @FATMIKED5183
      @FATMIKED5183 3 роки тому +4

      What people fail to realize is that Jacob at sundown puts a lot of thought,r&d,engineering into his products,and goes out of his way to please the market.Skar just pumps out subs.Basically companies like Sundown do the hard work,then Skar looks at what they did,makes a low quality copy and puts it out at a lower price.Essentially the people buying Sundown are paying for Sundown and Skar's product development,and Skar buyers are just buying a cheap sub.

  • @SoundStream101
    @SoundStream101 4 роки тому +4

    Great video!!!... But Maybe the Skar would sound better in it's own specific enclosure (size and tuning)?. Can't really compare them equally unless each one of them had a box of their own, because box dimensions and tuning isn't the same for every sub IMO

  • @AnDrEw122100
    @AnDrEw122100 3 роки тому

    These subs remind me of old school earthquake subs , same style basket similar motor size and stuff . Awesome subs .

  • @kennethconklin7786
    @kennethconklin7786 4 роки тому

    I love the DDX. I'm getting a pair of Skar EVL 12's and a Skar RP 3500. 1D to push them. Already bought a Kenwood Cd blue tooth player with remote. So I get to install all of that in one day. Lol maybe not in just one day. Have a great one Parker. 😎😊

  • @mikeEshroom
    @mikeEshroom 4 роки тому

    I have to sa 12 in my 03 mustang and I had to alter my trunk to be able to get a big enough box in there. I also had to get a 220 amp alternator, 1xs D34 ( under the hood ) , 2 xs 900 and 1 xs 750 ( in the car ) a Skar RP 2000, Kicker zx 750 , 2 Rockford fosgate 5x8 ( in the front doors), 2 kicker titanium tweeters ( on the front doors ), 2 Rockford fosgate 6x8 ( in the rear deck) Skar SKv2 1,500, 2 Skar 12 sdr ( 1 down from the DDX) in a B-box, 2 amp fans, 2 runs of 0ga. Ofc, 2 runs of 4 ga. 1 ofc 1 cca, 1 run of 2/0 ofc, a ton of 200 amp and 150 amp fuse block and 4 100 amp glass fuses. I've cracked my windshield 2 time and blown out the rear window seal 1 time! My SA 12's are still going strong three years and my Skar SDR 12's I've blown at least 3 times ( again not the DDX ) my Skar RP 2000 is 3 year Strong on it too that's the one on the SA 12's! The Skar SKV 1,500 with the clipping indicator light on bass knob( 2 years strong) I switch to run the Skar SDR 12's. I would have all Sundown audio speakers and amps if I had the money!!!!!!!

  • @joshholden8561
    @joshholden8561 2 роки тому +2

    Parker here's some Info on the skar ddx sub the guy I forgot his name that left sundown and works for skar created the skar ddx sub thats why this skar sub looks so different from any other skar sub and looks like a sundown sub.

  • @javierrodriguez3896
    @javierrodriguez3896 4 роки тому +2

    Very nice review. I can't wait to install my 2 15s skar ddx with the rp2k on chevy. Its gonna be a blowthru 4th order box. Should sound decent

  • @lpxone8041
    @lpxone8041 4 роки тому +1

    Parker great video man. Also thank you I was looking at a single 12 project in my Monte Carlo this video helped me make my choice. Keep up the good work I just subscribed!!

    • @ParkerTheBasshead
      @ParkerTheBasshead  4 роки тому +1

      Glad to hear it helped man!! And thanks for the sub. More video coming soon

  • @LivinLoudwithAndy
    @LivinLoudwithAndy 4 роки тому +17

    Like your videos bro BUT you really can’t compare two different speakers in the same enclosure and get a real feel for the products because one will always out perform the other because of the Ts parameters of the driver . It’s nice you do these for the new guys and I’m sure it does help a lot but when you get down to the science of things it really starts to make sense why one “plays lower and one sounds louder” and that’s due to many variables.. power ,tuning ,airspace, cabin, frequency ect... also when companies list specs such as “xmax “ the Bl curve is not always tested the same as other companies do so numbers are almost incomparable to each other in that sense .. just giving you some insight and understanding from a guy who knows a thing or two cuz I’ve seen a thing or two 😁

  • @lustmatt4
    @lustmatt4 4 роки тому +21

    can we get a Resilient Sounds RS12" review or perhaps comparison with these two?

  • @joeygarcia6647
    @joeygarcia6647 4 роки тому +9

    Ive had skars before but I have to say sundowns louder and better worth the few extra bucks

  • @bigbob3409
    @bigbob3409 4 роки тому +5

    Another great review. Keep up with'em 👍

  • @ATS162
    @ATS162 4 роки тому +4

    I had some XFL 15s then I got sundown SA 12s and huge difference! I love my Sas! Amazing subs!

    • @1tuffzx10
      @1tuffzx10 4 роки тому +1

      So you sayin the sundown is better 🤔

    • @ATS162
      @ATS162 4 роки тому

      1tuffzx10 than my 15s? Most definitely! I can’t say if they are better than the Skars. All I know is that these sundowns can take a beating! Got them wired at half ohm on a 8k SounDigital! They go crazy!

    • @paquesepas6696
      @paquesepas6696 4 роки тому

      Difference in what? 15s to 12s did you have the right box?

    • @amanbungay
      @amanbungay 4 роки тому

      @@1tuffzx10 I've heard xfl 12's and SA's are better than xfl's.

    • @1tuffzx10
      @1tuffzx10 4 роки тому

      @@amanbungay I mean are the SA 15's that much better than XFL & Skar 15's🤷🏾‍♀️.

  • @uknome540
    @uknome540 4 роки тому +1

    I currently have the DDX-12. It performs more than well for what I need. Since I now have a bigger vehicle, I might consider getting a 2and one. But I'll try the single first.

    • @trickedoutequinox3265
      @trickedoutequinox3265 2 роки тому

      What did u end up going with? I had the ddx 12 as well and wanted to get something bigger so I went with the 15 SDR but now I want to upgrade that( I only got the SDR 15 in the enclosure bc it was used from Skar for $160) so I'm thinking of another ddx but in a 15 or I'm thinking sundown just to see what all the hype is about

    • @blazeaglory
      @blazeaglory Рік тому

      @@trickedoutequinox3265 Just stick with the DDX line seriously its not going to get much better if you're just cruising. No need to spend more than warranted for non-competition listening.

  • @olveramelinda
    @olveramelinda 2 роки тому

    I clipped my sundown sa12s rev3 for a year ons taramps smart3. One’s still going built like a tank. Gettting a recone kit for it. Should be back up in no time. SUNDOWN FOR THE WIN

  • @Ronco160
    @Ronco160 4 роки тому +3

    I know the pole piece is different towards the dustcap. dished (skar) vs (sa) extended to a point. Also the different surround styles may make a slight difference. maybe one is more musical vs one is more spl (peaky.) Not 100% sure though

  • @MadDragon75
    @MadDragon75 4 роки тому +60

    I'm a fan of both.
    Having said that, Skar has always been like a "Baby Sundown" and I agree with the price. As far as SPL competition.. I would have to go with the Sundown.
    Awesome video as always Parker!

    • @Pkdimmock
      @Pkdimmock 4 роки тому +5

      But in this instance doesnt it prove that Skar are infact better in regards to these particular subs. Seeing how he states that the Skar has a 1k watt rating and although looking similar by eye the Skar does have a much larger motor, almost 5lbs. He also states he thinks the Skar hit lows better even though the Sundown has a deeper surround. And then on top of that they are on the same amp but the Skar version is a D4 vc @2ohm but the Sundown is pulling more power due it being the D2 @1ohm which is why he said the SA is louder. If the Skar was a D2 it could well be lower and louder than the SA but for a cheaper price.

    • @MadDragon75
      @MadDragon75 4 роки тому +3

      @@Pkdimmock it's all about the X max baby.
      I'm all about flex, move that air..
      Bigger motor is is a bonus for Cooling but I'd rather have the travel if I'm going to participate in an SPL competition.

    • @Pkdimmock
      @Pkdimmock 4 роки тому +1

      @@MadDragon75 does that also apply to everyday bass too? Although in this test the db was higher on the SA, Jacob said the EVL hit lower. So if the EVL had more power too @1ohm would that not give it the edge? At least in this comparison?

    • @MadDragon75
      @MadDragon75 4 роки тому +3

      @@Pkdimmock I would have to say it depends on the application.
      All day normal pounding in the daily driver.. I'd rock the Skar.
      If you watched Sundown Audio Unofficial, you may notice that Derek is only using 4 subwoofers and burping at 1 frequency the system is tuned to via the tuning wall.
      Like Parker said, if you can afford Sundown, rock em'! But if you just want a good daily flex at a budget level, Skar has proven themselves to a large crowd.
      That's why I am on the fence. Both have distinctive qualities.
      (BTW, Sundown underrates their products. That sub will take 1000 watts too. 😉👍

    • @Pkdimmock
      @Pkdimmock 4 роки тому +2

      @@MadDragon75 right right. Cheers for the info. I have heard that Sundown are underrated on a great deal of their products. Also that the only reason Skar is cheaper is due to the fact they cut out the dealers and sell direct which has caused some mixed opinions. I have just got my first single Skar 12 EVL and looking forward to using it. I had an old Audiobahn alum 12 1k running at 3 ohm 5-600w and it was almost enough for me, so the EVL running at 1 ohm should be a nice upgrade running at around 1,100w. I woulda loved to get the new SA v2 but it was just out of reach at the new price point. But I know Sundown come very highly recommended. 👌🏽

  • @quintonlitton6779
    @quintonlitton6779 4 роки тому +19

    I'm with ya 100% and cant wait to see the xr 12:)

    • @thatquitemazdaslow372
      @thatquitemazdaslow372 4 роки тому +3

      Quinton Litton I run 2 xr 12’s myself on an rp 1500. I can vouch in saying they are good subs especially for the price!

    • @ruthlesslegion1016
      @ruthlesslegion1016 4 роки тому +1

      AB has yet too disappoint.. 4 10" xrs. 1ohm 2k watts. Each. 2 Massive 5k amps. Beyond impressed.

    • @quintonlitton6779
      @quintonlitton6779 4 роки тому +1

      @@ruthlesslegion1016 I bet man I ran a crescendo bc 4500 on two xfl 10s and it was nasty. Then upgraded to 2 tnt 15s the new ones on a synergy 2k amp and it did a 153.2db at 38hz :) my next setup I'm working on is 2 hd 15s the carbon fiber models

    • @dannystidham2891
      @dannystidham2891 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I have 2 xr12's on a ppi ice7000 at .5ohm and its nasty. It's actually to much for daily, I have to turn it down. 5.6 cubes slot tuned at 34 with a 17 to 1 port to cube in an hhr ss. Haven't metered it but.... nasty.

  • @jamesmarler3939
    @jamesmarler3939 4 роки тому

    I have a 15” skar sub and I’m pleased with it and plus I’m on a budget just like a lot of other people, great job man 👍

    • @jerladams869
      @jerladams869 4 роки тому

      James Marler which one did you get

    • @jamesmarler3939
      @jamesmarler3939 4 роки тому

      Jerl Adams Well I think it was the D4.

  • @alfa7108
    @alfa7108 4 роки тому +2

    Good video 2 12s of audiopipes are good like u say Rockville has a new 12 inch super that looks like it'd be great and they don't cost too much w12k9d2 Rockville 3 inch vc and 1000 cea rated watts around 114 dollars

  • @jooohhhhn138
    @jooohhhhn138 4 роки тому +3

    Just picked up the ddx 12 myself. Waiting for it to come in so I can start on a fiberglass enclosure. Going sealed though. Never cared for the ported sound. Had a JL 12w7 in a sealed box a long time ago and have been chasing that sound ever since it got jacked out of my car. Never paying that price for a sub again lol

    • @rowboyto156
      @rowboyto156 4 роки тому

      i have a w7, to me the sundown x rev1 is the most similar in sound

  • @benjaminhopkins3896
    @benjaminhopkins3896 4 роки тому

    I got 2 DDX 15"s on a rp.1500 till I can get a 3000 watt rms amp. i a large slot port encloser tuned at 36-40 hertz 7.5 cubic foot minus sub size and interior bracing and they are clean clear and loudddd

  • @corbensmith9470
    @corbensmith9470 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you I enjoyed your video. That was an excellent presentation.

  • @workingclassperson2124
    @workingclassperson2124 4 роки тому +7

    Good job man!!!! There both broken in I take it. Still a hard decision

  • @Luminous.Dynamics
    @Luminous.Dynamics 3 роки тому

    Ive had the SA. Get the American Bass XFL, no question about it as that was my next sub and it was so much better imo.

  • @letrellmyers1464
    @letrellmyers1464 3 роки тому +1

    I just got to 15 skar in my crown vic and I didn't know nothing about the speakers because I all brought kickers. Now I like skar just a Lil better because of the price and they still hit harder then a kicker too me and that's just my opinion

  • @twinkyunouwantmycreamfilli8297
    @twinkyunouwantmycreamfilli8297 4 роки тому

    Looking foward to the xr review.
    Good vid.

  • @theurbanartist775
    @theurbanartist775 4 роки тому

    I like RE AUDIO as well. Although i have skar in my truck now.

  • @nitrodamusprediction-windy4870
    @nitrodamusprediction-windy4870 4 роки тому +19

    Good review homie, I subscribed for an honest review.

  • @johnreese2765
    @johnreese2765 4 роки тому +6

    Would be cool to see you do a comparison stress test on both to see which one plays longer without over heating? Another factor of best bang for your buck is how long the bang can last. I have been researching and comparing these 2 subs past month deciding which one to buy. I've seen the Sundown go through brutal stress testing but not much on the DDX.

    • @joseph2323
      @joseph2323 2 роки тому +1

      Which one did you buy and are you happy with your purchase or did you wish you got the other? Thanks I'm in the same boat trying to figure out which one I should buy

    • @trickedoutequinox3265
      @trickedoutequinox3265 2 роки тому

      @@joseph2323 Did u buy one? I have a DDX 12 and I love it but now I want something more so I went with a 15.

  • @jayjack2768
    @jayjack2768 3 роки тому +1

    From what I heard and read about skar company not making good on their products when it breaks, I'll go with Sundown. Customer service and standing by your product means the world to me

    • @ottobauner9828
      @ottobauner9828 2 роки тому +2

      Never had an issue with the customer service alway get a response with in 25 hours. I had to make 1 claim in 3yrs. I had 2 sets of their spx65c (4 spx65 , 4 spx_t, and 4 passive crossover on a SK125.4 wired down to 2ohm which is right at 200 wats per channel.. after beating on them for over a year 1 6.5 had a vc seperate. Contacted them because they have a 2yr warranty. Got a rma # with in 2 hrs to ship it back. Once they received it they inspected it and contacted me with in 24hr of getting delivered let me know the result and sent me a replacement. And to add a Lil more to this. If the do determine the damage is from abuse they will still offer you the ability to buy a replacement at a discounted price.

  • @dantheisen35
    @dantheisen35 2 роки тому +1

    Skar is kick asss but I’ve heard those sundowns and they can literally be heart stopping lol but I’ve heard skars do the same thing it’s definitely a hard one! Thanks bud for the vid

  • @coreystock4182
    @coreystock4182 3 роки тому

    Also I have the vxf 15" 1500rms 3000peak and I have the skar 2000 watt amp pushing a about 64 volts through this sub daily
    10/10 for sure

  • @chadbeverly4926
    @chadbeverly4926 4 роки тому +2

    Im ready for the V2s

  • @sleepzzz800
    @sleepzzz800 4 роки тому +5

    I think the long term comparison would be which sub will last longer / blow first. If Sundown last longer then spending the extra money would be worth it.

    • @joshholden8561
      @joshholden8561 2 роки тому +1

      He already blew the sundown sa he reconed it that was a reconed sundown sub.

  • @Antonio-td8ou
    @Antonio-td8ou 4 роки тому +19

    I had both and the sundown sa hits way way harder

  • @joefries365
    @joefries365 4 місяці тому

    Ive never had skar audio gear but my only experience with sundown subs was great. i had 2 sundown 12's 500 or 750 rms a piece, cant remember, in a ported box on a crossfire 2k amp and hit a 145.0 DB in a chrysler sebring. They just took the power and kept goin

  • @karl6823
    @karl6823 4 роки тому +4

    Definitely a sundown guy il pic them for sure!

  • @derekaaustin
    @derekaaustin 4 роки тому +13

    I need to share my experience with both brands. I've had a 1500 Watt sundown audio 15. And a skar audio 1500 Watt 15. The sundown did great on clean power at rated power. The skar started to smell on less than rated clean power. I love both brands so I'm not saying one is better than the other. If you are tight with money then the skar is great. But I would have to trust sundown if I would go above rated power.

    • @raymedina8328
      @raymedina8328 4 роки тому +1

      for skar get the ddx they are damn near indestructible. i have put a 3000 watt amp on 2 10s and they never even got hot and this is at full blast. if you try and put a skar on max power and clipping it then that would be you problem not the subs.

    • @alltorque415
      @alltorque415 2 роки тому +2

      That happen with me, bought a loaded enclosure EVL 12

  • @boominc0420
    @boominc0420 4 роки тому +1

    Needed to spl test both and see how they match up

  • @ThomasShelby-uq8cz
    @ThomasShelby-uq8cz 3 роки тому +10

    The Skar is a better overall speaker considering money and all

  • @jonadkins9339
    @jonadkins9339 4 роки тому +2

    Fi Audio Alpha 12 is $170. Rated for 750w RMS and wants a nice big ported box (3-4 cubic ft)

    • @catch22frubert
      @catch22frubert 4 роки тому

      It would be nice to see a 12 inch sub that wants a box as big as this one is. I believe it's 3 cubes. Most 12's don't really want more than 2.5 cubes of air space.

  • @lousutton3342
    @lousutton3342 4 роки тому

    I’ve had both and now I’m running 4 skar evl D4 in my explorer and it hits damn good

  • @bryantthurman6079
    @bryantthurman6079 4 роки тому +5

    I have 6 ddx 10s in my Tahoe on 2 skar skv 3500.1 an my truck is a beast it's an all skar system been running it for about a year with no problems with skar you really do get the best bang for your buck I love the ddx series sounds great and hits hard as @#$%

    • @danielbeavers8701
      @danielbeavers8701 4 роки тому +2

      Yea I think the wholesale Chinese subs like skar and American bass are actually made pretty dang good and definitely best bang for your buck. It's funny because some people are useing the same exact gear just with a different name slapped on it but payed 5 × the price. Lol! I would definitely go with skar because of price for performance

    • @2002ZRX1200R
      @2002ZRX1200R 4 роки тому +1

      Wholesale Chinese subs are all that's offered here. Skar and SD come out of the same buildhouse...

    • @nickp66104
      @nickp66104 4 роки тому

      Maken me want 2 get same setup . Got 4 vvx 8s on rp 2k atm

    • @bryantthurman6079
      @bryantthurman6079 4 роки тому

      p nice I have 2 vvx 8son a skv2 1500.1 in my WIFE'S truck with 4 6x8 skars in doors an 2 1" tweeters in front doors an 2 4" super tweeters in back doors sounds awesome about to add 4 more vvx 8s to her truck

    • @averyjones1098
      @averyjones1098 4 роки тому

      The thing with China is every thing comes from there there is high quality and junk skar is high quality the difference is sundown is assembled in America and skar is china all the way that's why they are cheaper they didn't pay for american assembly

  • @jamielanthrip8016
    @jamielanthrip8016 4 роки тому +3

    I use skar amps and subs and for the price and quality and sound it’s skar all the way

  • @bubbawubba2307
    @bubbawubba2307 4 роки тому +9

    Sundowns are def jumping more. Could be because the box is too big for the sundown or those subs are wired down lower and thusly getting way more power than the SKAR's. Would have liked to see how much power the subs were getting while playing those songs.

    • @catch22frubert
      @catch22frubert 4 роки тому +3

      The Skar was @2 ohms and the sundown was @1 ohm, so the sundown definitely had an advantage as far as available power.

    • @HellaBassTBO
      @HellaBassTBO Рік тому

      ​@@catch22frubert thats not even a comparison I own 2 sa SA 15s and I'm thinking about switching to the ddx because they are louder @1ohm

  • @Not_dha1grinnell
    @Not_dha1grinnell 9 місяців тому

    Have one ddx 15 and will run a few 12s next .. they sound good musical

  • @MothManLives
    @MothManLives 4 роки тому +54

    The sundown has a cost advantage regarding longevity. It's only $55 for a recone kit for the sa12. Skar does not sell recones for the ddx

    • @jaysmoot2001
      @jaysmoot2001 3 роки тому

      GREAT INFO THANKS!!!!

    • @lawrencebloom7327
      @lawrencebloom7327 3 роки тому +20

      Pretty sure you can recone the Skar with a Sundown cone

    • @MothManLives
      @MothManLives 3 роки тому

      @@lawrencebloom7327 have you tried this? I couldn't find the specs on spider size.

    • @bumpylump9236
      @bumpylump9236 3 роки тому

      @@lawrencebloom7327 now that's funny

    • @olveramelinda
      @olveramelinda 3 роки тому +2

      Just ordered 2 of these sundowns matched my box better. Air space

  • @lowhertzhighspl
    @lowhertzhighspl 4 роки тому +2

    11:11 If money was no OBJECT. Thx 4 comparison, would like to always compare using a spl db meter on window/legal for reference to for other subs you test.

    • @dp4auburn
      @dp4auburn 4 роки тому +1

      Brandon Lee glad I’m not the only one who was bothered by the “money was no option” 😂😂

  • @orion1508
    @orion1508 4 роки тому +2

    Hey Parker you need to do a CT sounds strato 12 in test

  • @UrAvgBasshead
    @UrAvgBasshead 4 роки тому +38

    I would choose which ever one fits into my budget. There’s ton options out there.

    • @FUBuddy
      @FUBuddy 4 роки тому +2

      its only 160 vs 200 for 4mm almost 25% more x max which lets you throw low notes harder without bottoming out.

    • @Angm0r
      @Angm0r 4 роки тому +2

      @@FUBuddy or you could get skar evl 12, and blow the sa out of the water for 199. back to what parker always talks about. sundown cool but why spend extra money when i can put the money into something else to improve all of it.

    • @FUBuddy
      @FUBuddy 4 роки тому +1

      @@Angm0r because sometimes in life you have to pay alotabit more to get a little bit better, and some of the spec differences seem worth it to me. and the good old made in the usa thing. and like the op said whatever fits your budget. also matching them up to amps for home audio and doing all of the math to get the power size and fq for my room just tells me from my years of experience doing math then building boxes that the sundown will be more to my liking and worth the extra penny's...'s's's's's's's.

    • @lievfrei8963
      @lievfrei8963 4 роки тому +1

      @@FUBuddy I'm pretty sure only the U series, X, NS and Z's are built in America. The rest are all Chinese

  • @leestrong5168
    @leestrong5168 4 роки тому +2

    SUNDOWN hands down.
    Easy to pic !!
    I had 1- EVL 18" DUAL 2ohm SKAR had all kinds of problems with it. Then I went to 1- 18" sundown SA-18 REV.3 dual 2 and not only does it sound better but it holds more watts and hits way harder.
    I have 4 - 12" kicker solo-baric L7's 2 are set at 110kz - 2 are set at 90kz
    Then the 18" is set at about 65kz and together my expadition POUND'S !!! I couldn't be more pleased then with the sundown 18.

    • @erv5890
      @erv5890 7 місяців тому

      DDXs are better than EVLs just so you know.

    • @Argedis
      @Argedis Місяць тому

      @@erv5890 I've actually just started really looking into the DDX vs the EVL.
      The DDX has a bigger motor 202oz vs 166oz on the EVL. The DDX has 3db higher sensitivity and more SD cone area because of the EVL fat surround. The only thing lacking against the EVL is the xmax 15mm vs 23.5mm.

  • @mrvneduardo
    @mrvneduardo 4 роки тому +1

    Parker i think i,m going to have to go with your review here ive never heard sundown but one time and it was just amazing but it was an spl set up i just recently bought a skar sdr 12 loades and it lasted like 7 days with the gain not even at half and it started to make mechanical noises so its going back im going to have to ask skar to give me an upgrade to this sub here in the video and ill have to pay for the difference, the sdr 12 couldn't hang and i have a soundstream ar1 2500 amp putting out barely 1500 watts peak at 1 ohm .

  • @downhilldaddy9346
    @downhilldaddy9346 4 роки тому

    Both are great. Guess it comes down to budget really.

  • @that_loud_tundra7025
    @that_loud_tundra7025 4 роки тому +4

    It would be a expensive video but I would love to see a sundown x 12 or 15 vs a skar zvx 12 or 15

  • @Kayjaye2024
    @Kayjaye2024 4 роки тому +2

    I have personally ran 9 skar audio ddx 12s on a banda viking 15k at .89 with no problem at all. Skar audio ddx's are severely underrated. Best bang for the buck if you ask me but I also love sundown as well.

    • @trickedoutequinox3265
      @trickedoutequinox3265 2 роки тому +1

      I had the ddx 12 and loved it and now have the SDR 15 but I want to upgrade the sub in the box...would u suggest I go with the DDX 15 or SA 15...I also see that the ddx has a really good sensitivity rating at 90 plus

    • @Kayjaye2024
      @Kayjaye2024 2 роки тому +1

      @@trickedoutequinox3265 both are good options but if I had to pick it would be sundown

    • @trickedoutequinox3265
      @trickedoutequinox3265 2 роки тому

      @@Kayjaye2024 ok cook thanks..also have u ever tried deaf bonce? I see they have a sub rated at 1200 RMS for like 180 bucks

    • @Kayjaye2024
      @Kayjaye2024 2 роки тому

      @@trickedoutequinox3265 I haven't but I know plenty guys who run deaf bonce and they make great subs

    • @trickedoutequinox3265
      @trickedoutequinox3265 2 роки тому +1

      @@Kayjaye2024 Yeah I've seen plenty of videos on them..I wish there was a way to test out these damn subs before buying them lol

  • @TheSimulatorSmith
    @TheSimulatorSmith 4 роки тому

    Bro I’m breaking in my Skar DDX in a prefab on 700 watts and let’s say I am ready for this to be in the custom box I got for it tuned at 30hz it will be on a Skar RP1500.1D god I’m ready for this

  • @mester84
    @mester84 2 роки тому +1

    Been running SKAR since 2018 no regrets sow far for the price $ you can go wrong actually got 3 SVR and i abuse them every day

  • @PDXsoundz
    @PDXsoundz 4 роки тому +1

    Hey Parker! love your videos buddy. I'm a basshead from OR, Its always awesome to see someone reviewing affordable gear. Would love to see some not so main stream brands in the mix. Audio Legion S2512, OG Audio Z12. And a few others. So many new competitors in the game these days its always cool to see what's out there, best bang for your buck like always! Keep up the good work bro!!! #BASSON

  • @mopar392ta3
    @mopar392ta3 4 роки тому

    I have never owned any of these until now. I just got a sa v2 15 that is still sitting in my room in its packaging so I haven’t heard it I. Person just yet. But I will say that I was gonna get skars top of the line sub which was the zvx 15 which cost the same as the 15 I bought. I’m a person that don’t mind spending the extra money if it’s quality.
    Back to this comparison video. If I’d choose between these two subs I would go with the sundown. It just sounded way cleaner than the skar. And based on listening to these two, in my opinion from what I just heard that $70 difference is well worth it. But that’s just me

  • @ntacoustics500
    @ntacoustics500 4 роки тому

    i had a sa 12 in my suv, when i hot my car i had 2 skar 12s on a audiopipe 1500 rms amp set about a quater of the gain after a week one sub died and the other one caught fire.

  • @averyjones1098
    @averyjones1098 4 роки тому +16

    I have skar 15s and I ha e people asking me to buy my setup without even seeing it and the skar can handle 1000 watts rms its has more cooling and they are both under rated you can probably hit em with 1500 and they would both perform great

    • @rhurtadorh32
      @rhurtadorh32 3 роки тому

      The skars cant handle 1000 watts rms 😂 kicker cvx hits harder then these skar audio ddx

    • @averyjones1098
      @averyjones1098 3 роки тому +1

      @@rhurtadorh32 mine are the sdr and they are rated a 600 rms and people slap 2k on them all day with no issues over hung coil with a wide open basket design I thought the ddx was a better line than sdr

  • @kenmedlin5978
    @kenmedlin5978 3 роки тому

    Have 2- SKAR Shallow mount 10's under back seat of a Nissan Titan and they hit hard as hell. Can't go wrong with SKAR...they are reasonably priced and you get a ton of bang for your buck.

  • @consumerthis3169
    @consumerthis3169 3 роки тому

    Pretty much like comparing Honda vs Toyota - both offer a value proposition and reliable

  • @mem10fan2
    @mem10fan2 3 роки тому +2

    They sound equally good so for the price l would go SKAR hands down!

  • @ryanjackson6923
    @ryanjackson6923 4 роки тому +6

    I'm subscribing cause of this vids, that was the best and skar hands down it hits way lower than the sa 👍👍💯💪💪

    • @ParkerTheBasshead
      @ParkerTheBasshead  4 роки тому

      Glad to hear man! Trying to keep the videos coming

    • @BenaresDarkness
      @BenaresDarkness 3 роки тому +1

      You got brain cells loose if you think skar hit's harder than sundown.

  • @brockfijal9244
    @brockfijal9244 4 роки тому +2

    I have two 12in essays in my Mustang I love them. I'm curious if you had both hooked up and head left side during the song and then switch to the right side one speaker each if you would notice a deeper Bass I know to make your windshield wobble

    • @BenaresDarkness
      @BenaresDarkness 4 роки тому

      Sundown definitely smash lows better.

    • @user-mp7tt8ht6z
      @user-mp7tt8ht6z 4 роки тому

      sa's lol not a paper essay lol

    • @skateboardkid420
      @skateboardkid420 4 роки тому

      @@user-mp7tt8ht6z I thought he had 2 12" homies in the back pushing on the window, lol the window, you want both of them on double the power you have to wobble your window..

  • @AJOSUE
    @AJOSUE 4 роки тому

    If you can get your hands on the Tropo XL I’d love to see a comparison... they cost $159

  • @chief9-10-games5
    @chief9-10-games5 4 роки тому +3

    Another A-1 video from my guy Parker Well said they both sounded great but if your bassiN on a budget the Skar gets my vote don't get me WRONG Sundown makes a great product I just think u get more bang for your $ with the Skar.I hope to see the Savard Hi-Q 12 reviewed.Keep the great content coming👍🏾 🔊🔊🔊-🔊🔊🔊

  • @sabarlow80
    @sabarlow80 4 роки тому +1

    I picked up 2 ab elite 12. One has copper looking coil and one black

  • @mazda2284
    @mazda2284 4 роки тому

    has skar fixed the cone problems yet ? after awhile the cones get holes in them from slapping the terminal/leads on 10 and 12'' . many have had this issue .

  • @jerrypolete5258
    @jerrypolete5258 4 роки тому +81

    I think skar is much better only because of its cost. You can get a 10” skar sub for under $100 when sundown is selling them for almost $200. Even if the sundown was a hair better I would still do the skar just because they’re half the price. Common sense to me.

    • @johndough164
      @johndough164 4 роки тому +1

      Agreed

    • @mikep3322
      @mikep3322 3 роки тому +1

      Yep

    • @THEBLOODYBALLOON
      @THEBLOODYBALLOON 3 роки тому +2

      i agree. not only that. but the skar subwoofers and products always match up to what they say. they don’t lie and the subwoofers are good quality for the price. nothing against sundown though

    • @younginfamou6053
      @younginfamou6053 3 роки тому +5

      Ok but the sundown will still be bumping in a couple years , as the skar most likely won’t last more than a few months

    • @jerrypolete5258
      @jerrypolete5258 3 роки тому +2

      @@younginfamou6053 I beg to defer! I’ve had mine so far for 6 months and they actually sound better now then when I first had them installed.

  • @mikeybasque5953
    @mikeybasque5953 4 роки тому +1

    Good video. I like looking at all the details you can't see from ordering online. Good side by side. I'm in the same boat bang for the buck is how I roll. I have 2 version 1 skar ivx 15's off a little mtx thunder 250.1d in a 02 suburban and it's just as loud as as my other friends 2 type r 15"s off a Alpine m1100. So skar would be the one for me thats $70 bucks can go an buy material for the right size box. But keep the videos coming enjoy them allot and all ways help me in Witch sub to buy next. Mahalo.

  • @Michael_Anthony05
    @Michael_Anthony05 4 роки тому +5

    awesome video, the skar wins as far as price. your getting the same performance for less. good video.

  • @rotralph3174
    @rotralph3174 2 роки тому

    thanks going with ddx

  • @johnhildebrand1991
    @johnhildebrand1991 4 роки тому

    They both seem like there about the same level just depends on which brand ya like I've got all kinds of different audio equipment I love any types of speakers really I still ha a k9 that's not blown in my tool shop lol

  • @SaGeMitis
    @SaGeMitis 4 роки тому +1

    Also gotta factor in longevity

  • @thunderdrummerdude
    @thunderdrummerdude 4 роки тому +3

    3 sundown 15’s in a sealed custom enclosure is what I’m seeing in my ride when all this virus crap is over with. Good review man. 😎

    • @ParkerTheBasshead
      @ParkerTheBasshead  4 роки тому

      💪🏻💪🏻

    • @jameshohmann1251
      @jameshohmann1251 4 роки тому

      They aren't really recommended for sealed enclosures.

    • @mikeday9033
      @mikeday9033 4 роки тому

      Yeah jam is right. Not really rated for sealed. And unless you have a suv to take up the entire 3rd seat area or maybe more. the 3, 15s will sound like crap. My 2 sa12 call for 2.5cubic feet of internal box space

  • @aldawson4943
    @aldawson4943 4 роки тому +1

    Great vid I watch your vids from time to time and gotta ask when u test all these subs are u keeping them or selling afterwards?

    • @ParkerTheBasshead
      @ParkerTheBasshead  4 роки тому

      I sell most of them

    • @aldawson4943
      @aldawson4943 4 роки тому

      @@ParkerTheBasshead ok so of any which would you prefer to keep I have the sundown sa love it might grab another one

  • @1ohmwrecker
    @1ohmwrecker 4 роки тому +4

    Just got hip to ur videos. Ur a good, smart kid! And do ur best to do it right! Ima subscribe. Although, idc for single sub set-ups.

    • @ParkerTheBasshead
      @ParkerTheBasshead  4 роки тому

      Thanks man! Check my latest video. Ditched the single sub for my new project

    • @1ohmwrecker
      @1ohmwrecker 4 роки тому

      @@ParkerTheBasshead and I see you have lol. I think you should go for a big build. At least 4 12s or something. You're totally capable of it. And you already got the power for it. Make it happen, make your channel blow tf up. Get some big sponsorships. I know I'd watch it.

  • @boominc0420
    @boominc0420 4 роки тому +2

    I have run sundown audio since 2011. Both are good subs but the sundown audio hands down are better subs to be honest.

  • @quakenation3029
    @quakenation3029 4 роки тому +8

    I had both last year....your box not right for that ddx...they get loud in the upper 30s...38hz