I’m so glad u talked ab the double bass being a huge deathcore and metal head in general so nice to hear someone that actually talks ab metal with subs thanks man :) just bought 2 svr 10s and they’re dope af
Yea a lot of guys just listen to strictly bass music or music with slow and artificial bass so they have no idea about SQ when it comes to metal, jazz rock jazz etc.. A lot of subs sound decent for bass music or rap. But when you get into music with fast percussion and natural percussion its whole different ball game. Thats why I bring it up in my videos. I like subs that can do it all as I listen to everything. And I have a good ear which is kind of a curse in some ways ..lol thanks man for watching I appreciate it!
I just got 2 svr 10's and a 2000w audiopipe class D 2 ch and haven't hooked it up yet. I can't wait because I'm 43 and haven't had real base for 20 years and I chose these 2 svr's I hope I made the right choice, because I don't listen to rap, it's all metal for me brother.
As someone who listens to metal and has the SDR, it doesn't have that kick I would like. That's why I am watching this video to see which of these subs I should get to replace it.
This is exactly the type of review I was looking for based on sound quality particularly the double kick drums and the subwoofer’s ability to keep up with the fast beats and not sound boomy. Would appreciate if anyone can let us know the sound quality of the sundown SA 12 rev3 vs the SA 12v2 on fast beats, great review bro.
The SVR and DDX are the most slept on skar subs. For some reason people go from sdr to EVL. I really like the SVR for a LOUD budget setup. DDX if you want any more. But the sdr is the budget king. I've built so many systems with them. Most non bass head people think a pair of sdr 12s in the skar box is insane.
I agree 100%. And for a cheap sub the SDR's are decent sub. But he SVR is a big step up for not that much more money. And DDX for shear volume / SPL cant be beat for the price. You are right people seem to overlook the SVR and DDX and go from SDR to EVL. Hopefully this video will help give people in info to try the SVR and DDX.
This video and info just helped me make decision on what route I want to go with Skar Audio. I was interested in the SVR and DDX but was leaning more towards the SVR. Now I’m for sure going with the SVR.
You forgot to mention how all of this can be changed with box size and tuning. Each sub has different characteristics in different enclosures and with different tuning.. I've put my vd 10s in 3 different boxes (sealed, Qbomb dual 10 and Skars dual 10 inch box) and each one has completely different sounds and characteristics . The vd's were almost silent in a sealed box but sound good as spl in the qbomb at 40hz. my SDR 10s, the Qbomb box made the subs sound harsh and better for rock only. I put them in the Skar dual box and they became great for hip hop due to the violent lows. I then added a wedge to the back of the port in the Skar box to lower tuning to 32hz and the subs now sounds like sq subwoofers. Also my audio control amp sounds different than my Taramps amplifier on each sub setup. So many variables to consider when installing a subwoofer setup.
Man I had 2 ix 8s at one ohm on a razor 2500D, they bottomed out very easily, only lasted a month lol,& I'm over 40 and never blown a sub on accident before. Was thinking about swapping them out for SVR 8s or a single DDX 10. I listen to EVERYTHING. Over 10,000 songs on my headunit. Going in a small sedan trunk
@@HiFiVector do you think a single DDX 10 will have less output than a pair of SVR 8s? My dual 8 box is kinda heavy in my civic. Would like less weight if the output is about the same
Bro been lookin for a sub for the work truck on the low and finding a video that has good basic info took an hr lol I love the basic but important info. Keep it up dro!!!
Uuuum.... Truth be told the DDX can take a huge load of power. I've had 4 DDX 12's on a Taramps MD 8k for over a year now and let me tell ya. These subs are severely underrated. My Maxima hates them.😅
@@HiFiVector I will say this.... I noticed a difference in performance between two separate amps. At first I had them on a Hifonics Alpha 3000 watt amp for a few months which only puts out around 2000 watts but the subs played lows that the Taramps just couldn't reproduce no matter how I tuned it. They can definitely get low but not for just any amp.
@@keithmagnifico4164 You are correct, what you heard is the difference between Half Bridge and Full bridge. Buy you are correct between those 2 amps the Alpha will hit the lows better. And some subs its not really noticeable and some its very noticeable going form half to fullbridge.
@@AlmightyyCres The MD series is my favorite because it can do rated power down to 12 volts. The Bass series create a better sound but don't let it get below 14 volts or it won't do the rated power. I had two of the Smart 3's which do rated power at 1 and 2 ohms but not as efficient at 2 ohms... A real power hungry amp. I noticed that the lows didn't hit as hard with them as compared to my Hifonics Brutus and Alpha amps for some reason. Not a big fan of the HD series but it's good for running mids and highs in my opinion.
I have a single SDR, and I really love it. Goes pretty low, and sounds so smooth. But, I wanted to try the SVR, because I wanted more power handling/ volume, and I wanted something a bit more accurate in bass response. I will cop an SVR soon.
I have both the svr and the ddx in a 30hz box on a 3000 watt DB drive amp and the svr has better lows than the ddx. Ddx is louder but I like deep bass. Might just go back to the SAs
@@devildog1534 DDX is definitely the best bang for your buck between the 2. I got a video of them in my videos, they're in a Qbomb box ported to 35hz in my old Avalon, them things BANG.
I have a SDR-10 in a 0.8 net CF sealed box on an SFB-600 and it's much, much better than I thought it would be for disco, funk and 70s rock. Especially since adding an NVX XBBR2. Going to a 12-1500 watt amp and SVR-10 in a bit bigger box soon though.
I’m running a sk500 rms Skar amp with an SDR12 box subwoofer. Swapping to an SVR will I see any differences? 500w amp is not even turned up all the way and the SDR kicks ass.
The svr will be more accurate. More punchy and hit lows better. The sdr are great budget subs , the svr is a step up. Box is a factor as well though so keep that in mind but svr should still outperform the sdr in your box.
@@HiFiVector I have the SDR in the prefab 2.0cu box that comes from Skar Ported. Skar says I can swap the SVR no problems. Just wanted to know if my amp will be ok! Thanks for your reply!
Blew my sdr 10 while listening to tool. Funny you mentioned kick drum. Was feeding it with about 1k rms 1800 peak amp. With gain down. It did sound good for a 10. Replacing it with a ddx tomorrow. Hopefully it holds up.
Where would you say the evl falls in with these 3? I listen to electronic ambient music but also I like metal/thrash. Sorta both ends of the spectrum 😁 Or would you say get the E-10 instead ? Box is 1.5sqft t-line
Just wanting something cheap to make some noise in my $500 Hyundai and bought 2 SDR-10d4. Built a 3.5 cube L-port box and powered 'em with a SKAR RP800.1d. Big 3, 2awg welding cable to fused distro, short run of 4awg to amp. I was floored after getting it playing. Was not expecting 2 cheap 10's ($90 each) to get that loud. I listen to all genres, but like playing metal loud and would have to (politely) disagree about double-kick bass sounding sloppy or boomy. Mines is tight bro. I'm a long-time car audio guy, going back to the old school. Many cars with many systems. I've owned Sundown Sa series, MTX, Alpine and a bunch more subs, so have a frame of reference.
Im on my second sdr set up...i cant even go past the half way mark on the amp they send with it...or it sounds like its rattling or bottoming out... is the svr gonna be able to be louder/ tickle my ears a little more than the sdr? And can my 800.rp amp that comes with the sdr gonna be able to push it?
The SVR handle more power than the SDR. Also the svr don’t bottom out as easily as the SDR. But also don’t be too concerned with where your base game is set at.. some amps the gain settingwill be set at quarter to be set correctly some half. Etc… so just set the gain correctly and don’t worry it it’s at 1/4 turn, half turn etc. is it possible you have the game set to High at halfway? And it’s bottoming out the subs. Just double check.
Gotta remember they are only 2.5 inch coils and xmax is not the best, they will reach xmax pretty quick in a big box so they will not take the full rms you are expecting
I first had kicker comp r 12 then I went to sdr they are nice but now I want to upgrade skar now has the new svr enclosure so thinking about trying it out
The Ddx has a really strong motor which might be why it’s so punchy which I do like, but as you said the SVR being similar size spider and VC but less motor makes it more well rounded I guess, not too sure how having less motor affects the top end but I’ve read that motor force is good for better spl and transient response.
I have 2 12 SVRs and 2 12 DDXs there is a difference in sound quality with the two I agree that the SVR is more balanced but the DDX does get louder I have a smart 3k taramp hooked up to the 2 DDXs I think I may have hurt one of my SVRs one of them have squeak when I push down on the sub.
Do you have an amp recommendation for 2 15” svr dual 4 ohm wired to 1 ohm final been looking at the vfl stealth 4500.1 tryna build a budget system that still sounds good that amp dynos around 1600 at 1 ohm any input is appreciated
I came up on some Alpine Type Rs for dirt cheap and I was wondering if you could tell me about where they fall in line with these lower end subs like Skar low ends. I can't find the important TS parameters anywhere and people don't really talk about them at all.
Anyone know if 2 SVR-12 would fit on a 2002 dodge ram box in depth?or what would be a good size of speakers for a truck? This was a really informative video, I’m barely learning about all this stuff
By punchy and peaky, can you clarify more? When I think of punchy I think of good top end response, 80-120 hz, when I think of peaky I think of large spike in 40-50 hz region, boomy is lots of muddle low freq like 25-35 hz where it’s over powering
By punchy I mean good hard hitting “punch” like when a kick drum hits. When I say “slappy “ it is similar to punchy but has a more whip cracking snap to the punch. So punchy is a good articulate but smooth bass hit and slappy is less smooth and more dry and harsh. By boomy I mean there is resonating tones ( ringing) that aren’t supposed to be there. Boomy can be from ringing or from bad transient response where notes get muddied or mixed together. So these have nothing really to do with frequency specifically but a way to describe the sound. When I say peaky I mean the sub has a narrow range or it’s louder in a narrow range. So it makes certain hz be louder than other hz which. Technically is not good for SQ but a lot of SPL subs are made to be peaky to out out good SPL numbers in a certain range. Keep in mind this is just my way of explaining things. :)
@@radiospank You're very welcome! I try and explain because on video you can't tell anything about how they sound so I try to describe as much as I can so guys can make a decision if its something they would like or not for their tastes.
Which is better a gravity g3-8d4 [500w rms 1000w max]or skar sdr 8 in[ 350w rms 700w max]??? And could I use both speakers in a dual 8 box with skar 800.1d I got amp at 1 ohm I think it's putting out 915 watts
There are a lot of good budget amps here are a couple that would be a good match. amzn.to/46kmHEx amzn.to/3EPCpvS amzn.to/3tauN4k amzn.to/3RxsxOS amzn.to/3RE5dyO
This video was extremely helpful, I think I’ll go with the SVR, I’m running stock alternator, battery so I won’t really want to go over 600rms. Would it sound pretty good?
Yea it would be a great budget banger you could use one of these amps for a 10 or 12” amzn.to/3Aw4oOB amzn.to/3B01Mty amzn.to/3B8cnmF Or something along these lines. You can go more than 600w on your stock car. With box rise in real world you will be fine up to about 1500 watts. Because with box rise you’ll be way under that.
@@HiFiVector I have no idea what halfbridge or fullbridge means, that’s for the amp right? Im a kinda in the middle of budget not expensive I’m looking for a good amp to pair with 2 svr 15inch 4d not looking for a crazy setup but something that sounds good I listen to hip hop and rap
anyone know what amp to get for the svr , was looking at skars 800 rms amp but the peak is 1200 and im not sure if that is enough extra watts for the svr to function right
I just want something good and clear that has a little bit of good bass for playing dubstep. I don't want to rattle my car to pieces. Any recommendations?
Is the svr really that much louder and better than the sdr? And if I do buy the svr I’m going to buy it in the box already is the box that comes with it better than the sdr box ?
It’s a big step up and sound quality and performance yes but it’s not necessarily gonna be louder unless you’re giving it the power it needs. If you get a scar box, get one of the new black bedline ones, those are the best scar boxes.
How would you feel about putting anyone of theses subwoofers in a sealed 1.0 to 1.25 cubic box under seat of dodge ram 1500.and witch sub you think would be best? Like sq but like it loud to.
I currently have 2-sdr 10's under the seat of my 2020 Ram 1500 4th Gen classic on a rp1200.1 Skar amp. I had a sealed box but it has little air space and they sound ok until you turn them up, then they struggle. I purchased a vented under seat box from Rockville for $200. It covers the entire under seat area and its day and night. Cleaner bass and louder spl. I just ordered 2-svr 10d4's to replace the sdr's.
I have a dual 12" enclosure box, and my SDRs blew out. I assume it's because I threw in a 1200 watt amp, but im not the best at sound systems. I wanna put in the SVRs because I am an audiophile, but I would like to know if a 1200W RP skar amplifier would be able to handle two SVRs, or if it would be to overwhelming/underwhelming for my subwoofers?
12" SDR should be able to handle 600W each just fine. Maybe they blew from clipping or just long use failure idk...But the SVR 12" subs will take about 800- 1200 each no problem. THE RP 1200 will be under powering 2 12" SVR subs a bit with box rise factored in.
@@HiFiVector well, the thing is, I don't know how they blew in the first place. I was bumping SDR12s on almost max volume for 3 hours straight and nothing happened, but then I replaced my old amp for the Skar RP1200 and then came the problems. The subs worked just fine with the new amp for about 12 days, and then they randomly went out while I was driving. I had played max volume with the new amp and subs and they never blew out, but they randomly went out in the middle of me driving. The first time it did this, I pulled over, turned off my car for a min, and then turned it on, and my subs started working just fine again, but then a couple days later, the same thing happened and they turned off while I was driving, and my subs turned off again for good. Note: I wasn't blaring loud music, and my subs have taken louder, but they blew at a lower volume???
@@HiFiVector well, I replaced every wire that goes to my amp and subs. I replaced my head unit and RCA cables. So I had deduced the possible problems to just the subs. I even replaced the old fuse and put a new one on. I am assuming I might have a short in the wires, or the wires inside the sub enclosure aren't working
I have the dual sdrs with the rp1500 skate amp, they sound amazing but my side terminal in the box got hot and started to melt the plastic around terminals as well as the nut on the inside of the terminal inside box came loose causing the subs to loose connection
I’m wondering the same thing. I’ve been thinking about switching out my sdr 12 for a ddx in a skar prefab but I don’t know if the box will be big enough.
I have a Rockville 10 inch subwoofer with a built in amp. It has a 500w rating. I was wondering if i could get an SDR 10” and the box/amp be able to handle it? I’m fairly new to subs so any help would be much appreciated 🙏
@@HiFiVector thanks so much for the help dude I really appreciate it. … but I noticed that the Rockville only has one terminals on the woofer while the SDR has two. Would I be alright only hooking up one of the terminals on the SDR?
What model is the Rockville powered sub? If it is the Rockville RVB10.1A model. Then you would need a dual 2 ohm subwoofer and wire it to 4 ohm. So you would use both connections for n the dual voice coils sub just be sure to wire it to 4 ohm as that’s what the built in amp is configured for. Also just double check your woofer mounting depth.
@@HiFiVector yeah it is the RVB10.1a. I was thinking I only need wire it to one of the two terminals and run it. I also considered running a wire from the main wires to supply power to the second terminal. Would it even be possible to plug in to only one terminal? Thanks for all your help 💯
You need to wire both terminals and make sure its final impedance is 4 ohm. Running a second wire from amp wont accomplish anything. You need a dual 2 ohm sub wired to 4 ohms. Or look for a single voice coil 4 ohm sub.
Check the skar website for depth specs. If it’s in a sealed box just need to make sure there is enough clearance from cones surround so it’s not hitting anything when it’s moving . Which on the svr, sdr an inch should be fine. If it’s ported try not to have anything blocking the port.
@@HiFiVector Gotcha, I went with a fox box to get 7” of mounting depth should be plenty. Thanks for the solid review it really helped me choose the Svr over the other 2 options. 👍🏻
The EVL is less slappy than the SVR or DDX. EVL has a smooth nice punchy bass. Also the EVL is not boomy and has very good transient response and accuracy. In my opinion the EVL is best for sound quality and accuracy then the SVR in 2nd place. The DDX is defiantly louder and very aggressive and slappy but musically the SQ is not as good.
@@HiFiVector this is extremely good to know I just got my evl bass package in yesterday and have literally never heard them in person just was going off videos and Reddit (tons of people hate skar is basically what I’ve learned lol) so it’s good to get this feedback because I think I may fall more into the sql side of audio if I’m being honest with myself and it seems like from what you said these fall in line with that pretty well.
You are very welcome glad I could help. I am also SQL . I like it loud but it has to sound good as well. I would recommend later when you can a custom enclosure I have tried a few different combinations and man these things really come alive in the boxes that I have made custom. if you ever need the specs just hit me up I’ll let you know you could have a box builder build it to my specs.
@@HiFiVector definitely will let you know I’ve heard that time and time again about these specific subs “get a custom box” I’m sure I’ll be hitting you up soon for the specs. I absolutely appreciate the feedback
Currently have a SDR 12" in a mtx sledgehammer box, on a Alpine A60m, 600rms+? It's impressive but thinking about the SDR or DDX, and maybe upgrading to 15" also... Is the SDR or DDX too stiff for the alpine? Mostly rap bass.
I got two svrs at one ohm ona rp 2000.1 they can take 30hz n up all day but anything lower gotta turn down the volume I love my svrs but wish I would’ve got the ddxs for the extra 20 or 30 dollars a piece
@@justinboone8700 how hard does urs hit I ordered my wire and svr15s 4 ohm picking up the amp tomorrow wondering how hard they hit mines going in the back seat of my car
I run an sdr 12 in my single cab work Tacoma in a ported box at 1 ohm on a kicker cxa 800.1 class d thing handles it all day and rattles my truck it’s stupid loud
The EVL is the most accurate and has the best SQ of them. It has xlnt transient response and sounds good with all types of music. The svr get a little lower but these still hit the lows well.
The DDX is good for going loud, but it’s not the best for sound quality. The EVL is great for overall sound quality but the VXF is king. It is loud it’s the Lows incredible and has xlnt sound quality.
out of all the skar subs the vfx sounds the best . just did a vfx12 in 3.2 cube tapped horn box with a teampie tp2500 for the sub and a teampie tp2504 running 2 pair of Ampere Audio AA-6.5C Dream Series speakers . i did the whole body with second skin and for a ford focus ive never heard anything sound so good .
You missed one of the most important elements of a system's set up. I always go big AF but NEVER run ported boxes.. They're shit. Just creating resonance and basically overtones instead of clean, crisp, hard hitting bass. I run 3 L7 12" in sealed boxes (and you don't see my speakers' under the seats) and it's super clean. It'll knock cups out of their holders. No distortion. No high school broke ass sound. No rattling. Oh, and my kids like it (but not too loud) too. I'm giving skar a shot but not hoping for much considering the price is less than half of the L7s. Cheers fellas.
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I believe I found out more from this video than any other to make a decision on 2 8" svr subs,well said thanks!
I’m so glad u talked ab the double bass being a huge deathcore and metal head in general so nice to hear someone that actually talks ab metal with subs thanks man :) just bought 2 svr 10s and they’re dope af
Yea a lot of guys just listen to strictly bass music or music with slow and artificial bass so they have no idea about SQ when it comes to metal, jazz rock jazz etc.. A lot of subs sound decent for bass music or rap. But when you get into music with fast percussion and natural percussion its whole different ball game. Thats why I bring it up in my videos. I like subs that can do it all as I listen to everything. And I have a good ear which is kind of a curse in some ways ..lol thanks man for watching I appreciate it!
I just got 2 svr 10's and a 2000w audiopipe class D 2 ch and haven't hooked it up yet. I can't wait because I'm 43 and haven't had real base for 20 years and I chose these 2 svr's I hope I made the right choice, because I don't listen to rap, it's all metal for me brother.
As someone who listens to metal and has the SDR, it doesn't have that kick I would like. That's why I am watching this video to see which of these subs I should get to replace it.
This is exactly the type of review I was looking for based on sound quality particularly the double kick drums and the subwoofer’s ability to keep up with the fast beats and not sound boomy. Would appreciate if anyone can let us know the sound quality of the sundown SA 12 rev3 vs the SA 12v2 on fast beats, great review bro.
The SVR and DDX are the most slept on skar subs. For some reason people go from sdr to EVL. I really like the SVR for a LOUD budget setup. DDX if you want any more. But the sdr is the budget king. I've built so many systems with them. Most non bass head people think a pair of sdr 12s in the skar box is insane.
I agree 100%. And for a cheap sub the SDR's are decent sub. But he SVR is a big step up for not that much more money. And DDX for shear volume / SPL cant be beat for the price. You are right people seem to overlook the SVR and DDX and go from SDR to EVL. Hopefully this video will help give people in info to try the SVR and DDX.
@@HiFiVector How do you feel about the EVL? I've had a 6-7 and they sound odd to me. Not enough motor I think.
@@BassFace1776 I haven't tested the EVL yet so I cant say.
@@HiFiVector EVLs are great been running 2 18s for a year now great sound quality subs
Can I run 2 evl or ddx 12s on a 1200.d amp
So now we want to see the difference between the ddx evl and vfx
Yessir would love to see this video!!!
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This video and info just helped me make decision on what route I want to go with Skar Audio. I was interested in the SVR and DDX but was leaning more towards the SVR. Now I’m for sure going with the SVR.
Glad the video helped and thank you for watching.
Love my lows so i go to ct mesos or skar EVLS. They hit hard asf 💪 and sound clean no distortion at all on high power.
You forgot to mention how all of this can be changed with box size and tuning. Each sub has different characteristics in different enclosures and with different tuning.. I've put my vd 10s in 3 different boxes (sealed, Qbomb dual 10 and Skars dual 10 inch box) and each one has completely different sounds and characteristics . The vd's were almost silent in a sealed box but sound good as spl in the qbomb at 40hz. my SDR 10s, the Qbomb box made the subs sound harsh and better for rock only. I put them in the Skar dual box and they became great for hip hop due to the violent lows. I then added a wedge to the back of the port in the Skar box to lower tuning to 32hz and the subs now sounds like sq subwoofers. Also my audio control amp sounds different than my Taramps amplifier on each sub setup. So many variables to consider when installing a subwoofer setup.
Man I had 2 ix 8s at one ohm on a razor 2500D, they bottomed out very easily, only lasted a month lol,& I'm over 40 and never blown a sub on accident before. Was thinking about swapping them out for SVR 8s or a single DDX 10.
I listen to EVERYTHING. Over 10,000 songs on my headunit. Going in a small sedan trunk
Yea the SVR will be a big step up from the ix. And of course the DDX even more.
@@HiFiVector do you think a single DDX 10 will have less output than a pair of SVR 8s?
My dual 8 box is kinda heavy in my civic.
Would like less weight if the output is about the same
@@theejoeylee I think a 10" DDX will be same or higher output than the 2 ix 8's The DDX subs put out some volume.
Bro been lookin for a sub for the work truck on the low and finding a video that has good basic info took an hr lol I love the basic but important info. Keep it up dro!!!
Uuuum.... Truth be told the DDX can take a huge load of power. I've had 4 DDX 12's on a Taramps MD 8k for over a year now and let me tell ya. These subs are severely underrated. My Maxima hates them.😅
They are xlnt subs for sure. I was shocked by how loud they got and how hard they hit. You can’t beat them for the money. Thanks so much for watching.
@@HiFiVector I will say this.... I noticed a difference in performance between two separate amps. At first I had them on a Hifonics Alpha 3000 watt amp for a few months which only puts out around 2000 watts but the subs played lows that the Taramps just couldn't reproduce no matter how I tuned it. They can definitely get low but not for just any amp.
@@keithmagnifico4164 You are correct, what you heard is the difference between Half Bridge and Full bridge. Buy you are correct between those 2 amps the Alpha will hit the lows better. And some subs its not really noticeable and some its very noticeable going form half to fullbridge.
I just found out about taramp. Do you like them? What are your pros an cons?
@@AlmightyyCres The MD series is my favorite because it can do rated power down to 12 volts. The Bass series create a better sound but don't let it get below 14 volts or it won't do the rated power. I had two of the Smart 3's which do rated power at 1 and 2 ohms but not as efficient at 2 ohms... A real power hungry amp. I noticed that the lows didn't hit as hard with them as compared to my Hifonics Brutus and Alpha amps for some reason. Not a big fan of the HD series but it's good for running mids and highs in my opinion.
I have a single SDR, and I really love it. Goes pretty low, and sounds so smooth. But, I wanted to try the SVR, because I wanted more power handling/ volume, and I wanted something a bit more accurate in bass response. I will cop an SVR soon.
I would do it. It will be a pretty good improvement.
Yo did you ever get the svr?
I have both the svr and the ddx in a 30hz box on a 3000 watt DB drive amp and the svr has better lows than the ddx. Ddx is louder but I like deep bass. Might just go back to the SAs
Yes that's my opinion as well. thank for watching
I’m pushing 1200watts to a single sdr15. Sounds great
I'm only using a crunch and It slams imma see how good the 1200 watt amplifier is now
My DDX 15s are my pride and joy. I find them all around better than my EVL 15s.
Great subs for sure!
I was thinking about getting an evl but many people seem to like the ddx more and they a cheaper too
@@devildog1534 DDX is definitely the best bang for your buck between the 2. I got a video of them in my videos, they're in a Qbomb box ported to 35hz in my old Avalon, them things BANG.
Dude Awesome video thanks for describing the characteristics of these subwoofers nobody does this. Tired of bass I love vids.
Thanks so much man appreciate you watching!
Thanks just ordered 2 svr 😊
You got them yet? I just got a single 12 svr and it is thumping 🔥
@@NuHabitsGroup mine sounds amazing
I love my ddx 10, listen to rap/hip hop and it bangs on a rp1200! They do need a big box though. My one 10 is in a 2.5 cube enclosure!
Do you think I can put a ddx in my skar prefab box?
@@devildog1534yes but don’t be as loud as a custom
Svr 12s can handle twice their rms pretty well
So I can run one svr15 with a rp1200 at 1ohm without blowing it?
I have a SDR-10 in a 0.8 net CF sealed box on an SFB-600 and it's much, much better than I thought it would be for disco, funk and 70s rock. Especially since adding an NVX XBBR2. Going to a 12-1500 watt amp and SVR-10 in a bit bigger box soon though.
I’m running a sk500 rms Skar amp with an SDR12 box subwoofer. Swapping to an SVR will I see any differences? 500w amp is not even turned up all the way and the SDR kicks ass.
The svr will be more accurate. More punchy and hit lows better. The sdr are great budget subs , the svr is a step up. Box is a factor as well though so keep that in mind but svr should still outperform the sdr in your box.
@@HiFiVector I have the SDR in the prefab 2.0cu box that comes from Skar Ported. Skar says I can swap the SVR no problems.
Just wanted to know if my amp will be ok!
Thanks for your reply!
Never mind. I missed the "pretend" sdr thing the first time around lol.
Blew my sdr 10 while listening to tool. Funny you mentioned kick drum. Was feeding it with about 1k rms 1800 peak amp. With gain down. It did sound good for a 10. Replacing it with a ddx tomorrow. Hopefully it holds up.
After the ddx go for vfx they sound really good and take a lot of power
So if i have a 1500 watt amp yo push 750 a piece to 2, should I get the SVR?
Or is that not enough watts to push it?
Yes 1500 will be good. You can give them 1000 each but 750 each is fine.
Where would you say the evl falls in with these 3?
I listen to electronic ambient music but also I like metal/thrash. Sorta both ends of the spectrum 😁
Or would you say get the E-10 instead ?
Box is 1.5sqft t-line
The EVL is the best of these for what you are looking for for. They are very musical and accurate for SQ but get down as well.
@@HiFiVector well I ordered the sundown e-10 today.
If that don't work out I'll order the skar
CAN WE GET DEMOS??
Do u think the svr on 800 watts would be louder than the 600 watts sdr on a rp 800 watt amp?
Won’t be much of a difference. But the svr will sound better.
I am upgrading my sdr to svr hope that have a difference
You will. SVR is way better than the SDR. It will hit harder and be more accurate.
Just wanting something cheap to make some noise in my $500 Hyundai and bought 2 SDR-10d4. Built a 3.5 cube L-port box and powered 'em with a SKAR RP800.1d. Big 3, 2awg welding cable to fused distro, short run of 4awg to amp. I was floored after getting it playing. Was not expecting 2 cheap 10's ($90 each) to get that loud. I listen to all genres, but like playing metal loud and would have to (politely) disagree about double-kick bass sounding sloppy or boomy. Mines is tight bro. I'm a long-time car audio guy, going back to the old school. Many cars with many systems. I've owned Sundown Sa series, MTX, Alpine and a bunch more subs, so have a frame of reference.
I had the xvf I think the step down from the zvx. Had 2 15s they were awesome. Now I got 2 12" zvx haven't put them in yet.
Im on my second sdr set up...i cant even go past the half way mark on the amp they send with it...or it sounds like its rattling or bottoming out... is the svr gonna be able to be louder/ tickle my ears a little more than the sdr? And can my 800.rp amp that comes with the sdr gonna be able to push it?
The SVR handle more power than the SDR. Also the svr don’t bottom out as easily as the SDR. But also don’t be too concerned with where your base game is set at.. some amps the gain settingwill be set at quarter to be set correctly some half. Etc… so just set the gain correctly and don’t worry it it’s at 1/4 turn, half turn etc. is it possible you have the game set to High at halfway? And it’s bottoming out the subs. Just double check.
Gotta remember they are only 2.5 inch coils and xmax is not the best, they will reach xmax pretty quick in a big box so they will not take the full rms you are expecting
I don't like loud as much as I like low hz sq. Would u say the sdr would be best sub at bass around 25hz?
SVR
What would he a good amp for two svr same amp from skar
RP2000.1D would be a good fit. RP3500.1 would be a little too much.
Thank you
Welcome!
I first had kicker comp r 12 then I went to sdr they are nice but now I want to upgrade skar now has the new svr enclosure so thinking about trying it out
Same here
Very good video. Often i see people test car subwoofers and mention nothing about sound but force them to do tripple there rms ratings...
The Ddx has a really strong motor which might be why it’s so punchy which I do like, but as you said the SVR being similar size spider and VC but less motor makes it more well rounded I guess, not too sure how having less motor affects the top end but I’ve read that motor force is good for better spl and transient response.
currently pushing a DDX-10 on 2kw with no issues was running two but I fucked up the surround on the other one
I have 2 12 SVRs and 2 12 DDXs there is a difference in sound quality with the two I agree that the SVR is more balanced but the DDX does get louder I have a smart 3k taramp hooked up to the 2 DDXs I think I may have hurt one of my SVRs one of them have squeak when I push down on the sub.
Yea the DDX are louder for sure. Thanks for watching and the comment!
I’m going to swap out my sdr for a ddx in a skar prefab. I think I will be impressed
I’m going to replace my sdr with a ddx in a skar prefab powered by a JP8 amp. 🤙
That's what I'm running now I need to do a big three because it's clipping when I wanna turn it up and voltage drops when gains are up.
@@coolme241 do you have the ddx in the skar prefab? If so how does it sound/does it hit the lows?
Do you have an amp recommendation for 2 15” svr dual 4 ohm wired to 1 ohm final been looking at the vfl stealth 4500.1 tryna build a budget system that still sounds good that amp dynos around 1600 at 1 ohm any input is appreciated
I would give those at least 1000 W each. Skar RP2000, D4S JP23 v1.5, Soundstream txp1.6000D, taramps md1800 are a few but there are a lot of options.
@@HiFiVector that sound stream txp1 6000d looks like an awesome deal to get the watts I’m looking for ! Thanks 🙏🏻 subscribed
Thank you so much!
I came up on some Alpine Type Rs for dirt cheap and I was wondering if you could tell me about where they fall in line with these lower end subs like Skar low ends. I can't find the important TS parameters anywhere and people don't really talk about them at all.
Man it’s been so long since I have heard R’s I would say they are in the svr or even sdr range.
@@HiFiVector Dang, that's about what I thought. Guess I should give some SVRs a try. Thanks, dude!
You’re very welcome thanks so much for watching
Anyone know if 2 SVR-12 would fit on a 2002 dodge ram box in depth?or what would be a good size of speakers for a truck? This was a really informative video, I’m barely learning about all this stuff
By punchy and peaky, can you clarify more? When I think of punchy I think of good top end response, 80-120 hz, when I think of peaky I think of large spike in 40-50 hz region, boomy is lots of muddle low freq like 25-35 hz where it’s over powering
By punchy I mean good hard hitting “punch” like when a kick drum hits. When I say “slappy “ it is similar to punchy but has a more whip cracking snap to the punch. So punchy is a good articulate but smooth bass hit and slappy is less smooth and more dry and harsh. By boomy I mean there is resonating tones ( ringing) that aren’t supposed to be there. Boomy can be from ringing or from bad transient response where notes get muddied or mixed together. So these have nothing really to do with frequency specifically but a way to describe the sound. When I say peaky I mean the sub has a narrow range or it’s louder in a narrow range. So it makes certain hz be louder than other hz which. Technically is not good for SQ but a lot of SPL subs are made to be peaky to out out good SPL numbers in a certain range. Keep in mind this is just my way of explaining things. :)
@@HiFiVector ty for clarifying and your definitions are great, the descriptions help alot
@@radiospank You're very welcome! I try and explain because on video you can't tell anything about how they sound so I try to describe as much as I can so guys can make a decision if its something they would like or not for their tastes.
Which is better a gravity g3-8d4 [500w rms 1000w max]or skar sdr 8 in[ 350w rms 700w max]??? And could I use both speakers in a dual 8 box with skar 800.1d I got amp at 1 ohm I think it's putting out 915 watts
I haven’t tried the gravity g3 so can’t really compare. But yes you can run 2 of those 8” subs off a rp800 amp.
Which amp is best for 10 inch duel svr sub for good result
There are a lot of good budget amps here are a couple that would be a good match.
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Why not test the evl??
I did not have an EVL at the time but I just released and EVL video.
This video was extremely helpful, I think I’ll go with the SVR, I’m running stock alternator, battery so I won’t really want to go over 600rms. Would it sound pretty good?
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Or something along these lines. You can go more than 600w on your stock car. With box rise in real world you will be fine up to about 1500 watts. Because with box rise you’ll be way under that.
I have stock alternator and battery, 775watts but ran 1100 before lights started to dim.
@@HiFiVectorwhat amp could I run for 2 svr 15 in ?
@@adamrodriguez6526 whats your budget? And do you prefer halfbridge or fullbridge?
@@HiFiVector I have no idea what halfbridge or fullbridge means, that’s for the amp right? Im a kinda in the middle of budget not expensive I’m looking for a good amp to pair with 2 svr 15inch 4d not looking for a crazy setup but something that sounds good I listen to hip hop and rap
You think a ddx 15 will hold up to a hiphonics brutus 1300 at 1 ohm?
Without a doubt it would handle it. No problem.
Can I hook up a 2400 watt hifonics amp on the triple 8” sdr’s?
What model amp?
anyone know what amp to get for the svr , was looking at skars 800 rms amp but the peak is 1200 and im not sure if that is enough extra watts for the svr to function right
The 800 will work fine but if you want the most out of it get a 1500 watt or so amplifier.
I just want something good and clear that has a little bit of good bass for playing dubstep. I don't want to rattle my car to pieces. Any recommendations?
Skar svr, Soundstream r3
@@HiFiVector I just ordered the sdr 10" 1200 watt, do you think this would still be a great subwoofer for that application?
Yes sdr swill do great
Which of the three has the cleanest bass?
Svr and ddx
@@HiFiVector have you heard or tried DD Audio and JBL?
Is the svr really that much louder and better than the sdr? And if I do buy the svr I’m going to buy it in the box already is the box that comes with it better than the sdr box ?
It’s a big step up and sound quality and performance yes but it’s not necessarily gonna be louder unless you’re giving it the power it needs. If you get a scar box, get one of the new black bedline ones, those are the best scar boxes.
like the spl box or the armor coated box?@@HiFiVector
@@sleet4947I got a spl q bomb vl box chevk out my video I got 2 svr ts bumps hard asl on 1500 watt amp
How would you feel about putting anyone of theses subwoofers in a sealed 1.0 to 1.25 cubic box under seat of dodge ram 1500.and witch sub you think would be best? Like sq but like it loud to.
Svr would be good
I currently have 2-sdr 10's under the seat of my 2020 Ram 1500 4th Gen classic on a rp1200.1 Skar amp. I had a sealed box but it has little air space and they sound ok until you turn them up, then they struggle. I purchased a vented under seat box from Rockville for $200. It covers the entire under seat area and its day and night. Cleaner bass and louder spl. I just ordered 2-svr 10d4's to replace the sdr's.
Would a svr ten with rp1200.1 be a good set up cause I’m thinking that’s what imma get for my system
Yes that would be a great setup.
I have a pair of 12 svr with a rp1200 amp. Beats like he'll. Loves 30 to 40 hz.
So the DDX has so much bass you can’t hear the music, right?
I mean you can adjust the level to be lower but for music quality the svr or EVL is better.
Will one EVL 2 ohm be stronger than two svr 4ohm ? ( I’m a newbie )
The EVL is a big step up but
It’s not necessarily gonna be better than two SVR 12s. It just depends on how much power you have your box, etc..
Will a single ddx 12" work for my 1200 watt amp?
Yes
@HiFiVector How about 2 ddx 12"s on a 1200w amp? Probably not a good choice I'd assume?
Better option being 2 svr's for that amp output?
I have a dual 12" enclosure box, and my SDRs blew out. I assume it's because I threw in a 1200 watt amp, but im not the best at sound systems. I wanna put in the SVRs because I am an audiophile, but I would like to know if a 1200W RP skar amplifier would be able to handle two SVRs, or if it would be to overwhelming/underwhelming for my subwoofers?
12" SDR should be able to handle 600W each just fine. Maybe they blew from clipping or just long use failure idk...But the SVR 12" subs will take about 800- 1200 each no problem. THE RP 1200 will be under powering 2 12" SVR subs a bit with box rise factored in.
@@HiFiVector well, the thing is, I don't know how they blew in the first place. I was bumping SDR12s on almost max volume for 3 hours straight and nothing happened, but then I replaced my old amp for the Skar RP1200 and then came the problems. The subs worked just fine with the new amp for about 12 days, and then they randomly went out while I was driving. I had played max volume with the new amp and subs and they never blew out, but they randomly went out in the middle of me driving. The first time it did this, I pulled over, turned off my car for a min, and then turned it on, and my subs started working just fine again, but then a couple days later, the same thing happened and they turned off while I was driving, and my subs turned off again for good. Note: I wasn't blaring loud music, and my subs have taken louder, but they blew at a lower volume???
@@rupp165 Too many variable without being there and inspecting. Sounds like you need to start checking everything and try an isolate the issue.
@@HiFiVector well, I replaced every wire that goes to my amp and subs. I replaced my head unit and RCA cables. So I had deduced the possible problems to just the subs. I even replaced the old fuse and put a new one on. I am assuming I might have a short in the wires, or the wires inside the sub enclosure aren't working
I have the dual sdrs with the rp1500 skate amp, they sound amazing but my side terminal in the box got hot and started to melt the plastic around terminals as well as the nut on the inside of the terminal inside box came loose causing the subs to loose connection
Keep the videos coming
What do you think if I jumped to a ZXV2 from a SDR.
Maybe go with VXF. People claim they sound better than ZVXs
@@Luminous.Dynamics I see. Also do you think the sub alone will fit the box that comes with the SDR?
I’m wondering the same thing. I’ve been thinking about switching out my sdr 12 for a ddx in a skar prefab but I don’t know if the box will be big enough.
@@devildog1534 I checked. The ZXV2 won’t fit but I think the DDX will.
Like I’m 80% sure the DDX will fit. Update me with the results. I want to know I was thinking of getting the SVR.
I have a Rockville 10 inch subwoofer with a built in amp. It has a 500w rating. I was wondering if i could get an SDR 10” and the box/amp be able to handle it? I’m fairly new to subs so any help would be much appreciated 🙏
Yea you could swap the sub out with an sdr.
@@HiFiVector thanks so much for the help dude I really appreciate it. … but I noticed that the Rockville only has one terminals on the woofer while the SDR has two. Would I be alright only hooking up one of the terminals on the SDR?
What model is the Rockville powered sub? If it is the Rockville RVB10.1A model. Then you would need a dual 2 ohm subwoofer and wire it to 4 ohm. So you would use both connections for n the dual voice coils sub just be sure to wire it to 4 ohm as that’s what the built in amp is configured for. Also just double check your woofer mounting depth.
@@HiFiVector yeah it is the RVB10.1a. I was thinking I only need wire it to one of the two terminals and run it. I also considered running a wire from the main wires to supply power to the second terminal. Would it even be possible to plug in to only one terminal? Thanks for all your help 💯
You need to wire both terminals and make sure its final impedance is 4 ohm. Running a second wire from amp wont accomplish anything. You need a dual 2 ohm sub wired to 4 ohms. Or look for a single voice coil 4 ohm sub.
Does anyone know if the svr or sdr will fit in a shallow mount box that’s 6.5” mounting depth? Do these subs need space under it for ventilation?
Check the skar website for depth specs. If it’s in a sealed box just need to make sure there is enough clearance from cones surround so it’s not hitting anything when it’s moving . Which on the svr, sdr an inch should be fine. If it’s ported try not to have anything blocking the port.
@@HiFiVector Gotcha, I went with a fox box to get 7” of mounting depth should be plenty. Thanks for the solid review it really helped me choose the Svr over the other 2 options. 👍🏻
Which is overall better the svr or ddx
That all depends. For sound quality I would say svr….. but the ddx is louder. hits harder and can handle more power.
What about throwing the evl in the mix ?
The EVL is less slappy than the SVR or DDX. EVL has a smooth nice punchy bass. Also the EVL is not boomy and has very good transient response and accuracy. In my opinion the EVL is best for sound quality and accuracy then the SVR in 2nd place. The DDX is defiantly louder and very aggressive and slappy but musically the SQ is not as good.
@@HiFiVector this is extremely good to know I just got my evl bass package in yesterday and have literally never heard them in person just was going off videos and Reddit (tons of people hate skar is basically what I’ve learned lol) so it’s good to get this feedback because I think I may fall more into the sql side of audio if I’m being honest with myself and it seems like from what you said these fall in line with that pretty well.
You are very welcome glad I could help. I am also SQL . I like it loud but it has to sound good as well. I would recommend later when you can a custom enclosure I have tried a few different combinations and man these things really come alive in the boxes that I have made custom. if you ever need the specs just hit me up I’ll let you know you could have a box builder build it to my specs.
@@HiFiVector definitely will let you know I’ve heard that time and time again about these specific subs “get a custom box” I’m sure I’ll be hitting you up soon for the specs. I absolutely appreciate the feedback
I’m confused on what everyone means by LOUD is it bass loud like a chest pound loud or loud music?
Both… chest pounding and musically.
Brutus 12s vs the Soundstreams R3s next.
Currently have a SDR 12" in a mtx sledgehammer box, on a Alpine A60m, 600rms+? It's impressive but thinking about the SDR or DDX, and maybe upgrading to 15" also... Is the SDR or DDX too stiff for the alpine? Mostly rap bass.
If you are going to keep your amp. A SVR 12 will work but not the DDX really.
@@HiFiVector yep, SVR is what I meant.
I need someone’s help should I get 3 12 inch sdrs or 1 12 inch evl??
Just depends 3 sdr will be louder than 1 EVL. But EVL sound better. So just depends on what you want.
I got two svrs at one ohm ona rp 2000.1 they can take 30hz n up all day but anything lower gotta turn down the volume I love my svrs but wish I would’ve got the ddxs for the extra 20 or 30 dollars a piece
I’m going with this set up why do you have to lower the volume and how do you wire at 1 ohm I’m getting the 4ohm ones
@@BradFFA just UA-cam how to wire two dvc subwoofers in parallel. And had to turn the volume because my box tuning was to high
@@justinboone8700 how hard does urs hit I ordered my wire and svr15s 4 ohm picking up the amp tomorrow wondering how hard they hit mines going in the back seat of my car
@@BradFFA hit really good in the right box .. I have upgraded to a resilient sounds onyx 12 since then
@@justinboone8700 for the price would the sdr version do the same or should a man get the svrs
Great video Bro Thanks
I run an sdr 12 in my single cab work Tacoma in a ported box at 1 ohm on a kicker cxa 800.1 class d thing handles it all day and rattles my truck it’s stupid loud
What about the evl?
The EVL is the most accurate and has the best SQ of them. It has xlnt transient response and sounds good with all types of music. The svr get a little lower but these still hit the lows well.
@@HiFiVector good to know since I’m waiting on a set to be delivered thanks.
What about EVL?
EVL has best SQ compared to these svr would be second. EVL has xlnt transient response and accuracy.
I'm looking at an awesome deal on a pair of vd 8's . Can anyone chime in on how the vd series do with rock and heavy metal?
I have 2 vd 10s they hit nice and clean
I'm running dual 10" svr@1ohm on a taramps 3000.1 and a js-alternators 320amp alternator. They absolutely destroy
SVR are good budget subs for sure
Best skar amp for the 12" svr without stressing it?
Rp1200 would be great. Even a rp800 would be decent if you are worried about the power. I would go rp1200
@@HiFiVector awesome thank you
@@HiFiVector would you wire it to 1 ohm or 2 ohm?
1 ohm for max output
What about DDX vs EVL 15? I wasn’t Sure what one too get I ended up with evl but I wonder if the DDX was a better choice?
The DDX is good for going loud, but it’s not the best for sound quality. The EVL is great for overall sound quality but the VXF is king. It is loud it’s the Lows incredible and has xlnt sound quality.
@@HiFiVector ok thanks great channel man
out of all the skar subs the vfx sounds the best . just did a vfx12 in 3.2 cube tapped horn box with a teampie tp2500 for the sub and a teampie tp2504 running 2 pair of Ampere Audio AA-6.5C Dream Series speakers . i did the whole body with second skin and for a ford focus ive never heard anything sound so good .
Amen brother I just got done breaking in a set of fifteens and OMG video coming soon!
Anyone notice he’s showing 2 svr subs? Sdr don’t have stitching.
R u special? He said he didn’t have one in stock so for this video he is calling that sub a sdr for the video
Since when does sdr have stitched surrounds? We have 2 12's and 2 18's and neither have stitched surrounds.
I have an skar evl 15 on an hifonics 4000 bg it slams lol
the zvx is what you want B)
You missed one of the most important elements of a system's set up. I always go big AF but NEVER run ported boxes.. They're shit. Just creating resonance and basically overtones instead of clean, crisp, hard hitting bass. I run 3 L7 12" in sealed boxes (and you don't see my speakers' under the seats) and it's super clean. It'll knock cups out of their holders. No distortion. No high school broke ass sound. No rattling. Oh, and my kids like it (but not too loud) too. I'm giving skar a shot but not hoping for much considering the price is less than half of the L7s. Cheers fellas.
Ported boxes can sound xlnt if they are designed correctly and used with a good Sounding sub. But all depends on the sub and the box.
Youre stuck in 1991. Ported > sealed
Looks like im going 15" svr
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I’m planning to get the 2 svr-10 what amp should I run them with
With box rise, give those things at least 1000 W apiece true power so a 2000 W mono block. Man a lot of it is personal preference or brand preference but here’s a couple budget options that I would choose..
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Also a skar rp1500.1D