These Phantom motors are blowing up Left & right. I know 4 people personally who got ripped for 300 spent hours installing getting stranded and hours tearing down the motor. They aren't happy they aren't lasting long at all
@@americanpatriot212I don’t belive that lol zeda is known for over heating my friend has issues plus u need to keep em at 20mph breaking it two tanks ur Doing something wrong an it don’t take hours to tear down lol I can tests down engine in 10-15 mins lol
Yessir standard chainsaw design. The piston acts as the bottom of the transfer ports when at bottom dead center, fuel mix sliding by the piston itself and up into the cylinder transfer.
Yup, and the "wings" on the bottom of the cylinder are simply there to seal off the case where the old transfers would be... I am wondering if filling the old case transfers would act like case stuffing. As of right now they are just empty space, but I don't know if the outcome would be positive or negative.
@@LAHover yeah give it a try! If you have an old YD case to experiment with. My hypothesis is that it would not hurt anything at all, perhaps even improve a little bit. I think it would aid to keep gas concise, dense, directed, and channeled with shortest route possible up to the cylinder. Maybe even increase compression a bit like you mentioned similiar to stuffing. But I dont know, I dont have one of these bad boys, so I am just working off of the short videos I have seen and my imagination. Idk, maybe the case transfer ramps there are actually beneficial with this cylinder, allowing like a staging area for gas to hangout before entering cylinder. Maybe one stroke pulls gas from intake into bottom of the case and transfers etc, then the second stroke pulling gas from that upper area transfer ramps area into the cylinder. Lol I have no clue, just imagining and hypothesizing but it is fun to think about. Makes sense this engine is a great performing since that old saying "no replacement for displacement" I bet they will continue to make these top end kits a hair bigger, a hair bigger, every couple of years to squeeze out every penny, rather than making a big jump up to a 100cc and missing out on all the purchases in between.
*BEWARE OF THESE MOTORS!!! $300 SAME CHEAP CHINESE PARTS I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN 4 BLOW UP & LEAVE PPL STRANDED BEFORE 75MILES!! They run good for about 30miles then they ARE TRASH!!!*
As I just found out, on a 44T sprocket it will send you into orbit if you are not carful lol. A little pull on the bars and I looped it on day one, it's no joke.
Been wanting to make my first cafe racer moto-bike to piss off the Snooty E-Bikers downtown, and I think this may be it! Looking forward to your follow-up video. Hope to see any proper mods that you suggest, as I'm gonna have to take it to a shop, and I need to make a list of things to be done. I really like your presentation style. Thank you!
Wait till you see my hybrid bike. Gas rear wheel, front E-hub. While you run out of gas I'm still running on electric. When your at a stop I'm leaving you in the dust with electric launch assist because instant torque. Pissing off everyone at night? Turn off the engine and cruise stealth style. Best of both worlds, twice the fun.
Definitely help, all that space could be filled in, but now I'm wondering what about opening the transfers to the jug and matching it to the crank case???
Bullet...it's called FILING not filling; the transfer ports as you say look to be partially closed off by the Crankcase.Grinding there to a polish should definitely help..Trev New Zealand 😊🇳🇿
what part of IL you at?? im up northern IL. glad to see you and Kaos are in IL> makes me happy other people round here enjoy the hobby like i do!! love the bikes and the vids!
I think the box top you found in your kit is for the piston. Witch is good news because those are cheap and easy to find. I have been looking back and forth at ms460s and although the cylinder design is similar, there are some major casting differences made to this one in order for it to be a direct bolt on cylinder. Thanks for the video!
I have several motors and for some reason the BT clutch plates or disc are all thicker and have crosshatching and vent holes none of the other motors have that
pretty excited about this motor . about time they come out with a true any thing motor . all this double cc bs . is it a 60 cc or a 80 cc you know what i mean . this is a game changer next will be a true 100 cc . some one is going to have to start making heavy duty frames for these motors soon . i know there is a couple but there both pretty much the same frame . felt faker frames . personally while i do like the built in tank the frame style its self leaves alot of room for improvement not to mention the price . i have not seen a speed test for these yet but im thinking if it is as powerful as claimed bike frames and wheels are going to be under alot of stress . this motor is one to watch for sure . i do hope they break out with a true 100 cc though that would be awesome .
@@theenzoferrari458 well any single celled amoeba brain could figure out what i was talking about to but i understand you fall short in this area . as a American i and all other Americans with half a brain like our sheet to say what it is and be what it says it is . we cant help that the Chinese are a few cc's behind . you pointing out the obvious just proves your intelligence . re read my first comment or have some one explain it for you so you understand it . only a f tard would read what i wrote and not understand what i was talking about . now get back on the porch son adults are talking .
Those transfers work just fine on a chainsaw, so why wouldnt they work here? Yessir standard chainsaw design. The piston acts as the bottom of the transfer ports when at bottom dead center, fuel mix sliding by the piston itself and up into the cylinder transfers and then over the top of the piston. I dont know what 2 stroke secrets you're eluding to knowing but this design is standard in big bore chainsaws man.
The cylinder and piston work as an independent transfer system, they don't interact with the case transfers. The wings on the bottom on the cylinder are just there to seal the case where the old transfer circuit would be. Perfect or not it works fine, and has considerably more power than any other china kit I have used.
@@abikelife1481 I know how they work haha. Surprised you can't understand where the flaw is. They only make manufacturing much cheaper. 2 base gaskets because they couldn't be bothered changing the casting to set a new squish or any port durations. They didn't even bother to get the cooling fins reorientated. Would you trust that manufacturer when you're going 50mph+ on a bicycle?
Actually it isn’t the biggest, it is one of them though. CDH power sells one with the same displacement. Look up 110cc cdh motor. Plus CDH Power makes there with a steel sleeve to improve life which is nice. I got it because I like tuning and plan to mod the motor to my liking.
These mufflers are junk for this motor!!!! , might as well buy 4 to 6 more mufflers!!!!!!, Cause there junk , but hey you got money to burn by all means!! I switched to 4 stroke Ghoust Predator motor on phatmoto red white and blue bike, less maintenance, better longevity!, more rideing time!!!! Been in this Hobbie 7 yrs now and wasted to much money!, so do as you plz! Love this Hobbie fur sure!
Instantaneous torque from the rip with high speeds and silent operation for not pissing neighbors and people off, is goofy? I love engines as much as the next guy, i have a 2jz in my car and have always loved automotive but electric sccoters, boards, unicycles, and bikes these days are absolutely ridiculous for no reason lmao
@@southtexasspecials175 i've seen custom electric builds with powerful motors. Yes they make tons of power but they have VERY limited range, the charging process is slow and adding more batteries makes the bike very heavy. If we compare those super expensive electric builds to these cheap 2 stroke china dolls its also not fair. A Yamaha YZ250 2 stroke engine makes 50HP and with the gas tank will be much lighter than an electric build of comparable power, plus you will have much higher range and no waiting to charge.
@@dieselgeezer18 I mean if something goes 60mph and it lasts an hour then that's not that limited but then again you have to factor in mah and what type batteries you use
I have the V3 on my main bike and the yd100 on my spare bike and I thought the yd100 would come close to the phantom 85 but it doesn't! I like the yd100 but it just doesn't even come close to the phantom 85 in power
I've got a project i'm starting over the winter for my boys. I want to put my tiller motor on their Stingray but I want to keep the 3 speed transmission suicide style . I have one issue and that's the clutch , I guess you could say it's reversed , engaged when the cable is slack . Anyone out there ever try this and if so how much of an issue was it to reverse ?
I don't think I ever had a throttle cable itself go bad. Now them throttle handles can be a diff goofy issue all their own. The YUANG DONG throttles handles for as good a carb as they make can be a real pisser and piece of junk. The Bo Feng carbs are not really potent they need to be jetted and I have had great success doing just that with em. They R a big improvement over the old NT carbs whereas ya either get a good one or a bad one or ya can't get em to seal on the intake necks. I was hoping to see the thing run for my sanity sake the thing looks tempting to buy however owning an engine with one of Fred Chelminskis heads is like having cookies without the milk.
Love how they copied saw jug great idear stihl spends thousands on the drawing board deff on ms 660 so y not steel their desighn stihl always has low torque to so great idear
The white wire is supposed to be for lights but it kills power to the engine if you hook anything up to it. It's just normal practice to just cut it off.
The head looks like it's aluminum I assume it is is it yes or no I want steel like the real chainsaw motor aluminum is garbage when it comes to these motors they always fail no matter what
Hey I have a phantom 85 that I had just bought and I can't decipher if it's a version 2 version 3 my intake cover is black not red I have a bearing on the connecting rod not a bushing. I have just put this together and ready to fire it but am reserved to do so from all the stuff I have read. I need advice and should I use 16:1 for my break in and how long
I've seen 100cc engines would that be faster and better than this? Or should I go with this my bike is a 32" and I weigh 220lbs what would you recommend me do?
The new version that just came out has better bearing and seems to be a powerhouse. The yd100 is a nice reliable engine that you can get parts for right now.
Alex!!! I need you bro. Where did you get your helmet with the flip visor from... I looked all over Amazon but didn't see it.. help me out with a link please 🥺🥺🥺
What is it with bike and motorcycle people wanting to make as much noise as possible? Why does everyone have to put up with your profencity for loud obnoxious noises?
I see a lot of gains to be made with this setup. How they added more meat to the cylinder so you can widen the transfers is a big big plus as well as the intake port angled down. There are a few more pluses I see about this newer style engine that is awesome for the porting nerds.
I would agree that jug is definitely a stihl, I’m not sure what the stud spacing is compared to a larger saw like 070,660,090,880 but I’m sure the large jug could be adapted ofcourse dependent on stroke, and case volume. I don’t know much about these bike bottom ends
At that price shipping should be free. I ordered a set of triple trees from them that are junk. Can't even be used. And now everyones engines are blowing bearings on first rides. Then they out over $300 for an experiment.
You could, but the case at the bottom doesn't really line up and the reed valve would prevent any ram air effect but yeah you can do it! Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
I hope you mount it on a bicycle and test it out on performance and speed. I’m looking for a 3 wheel bike and motor to mount. I’ll put lights on it. It is for an elderly lady that lives in a small town. She needs a ride to Post Office to get her Mail and to local small store for food. Disabled, I donate time and mow elderly lawns, etc. thx. If you know of a good source to buy a used 3 wheel bicycle that is affordable please advise! All elderly are on limited Social Security income and cannot afford anything beyond basics. A few donate money to me to afford gas/oil to mow their lawns.
I wonder if you could drill some holes through the 40mm piston rods on common 66cc/80cc 2 stroke bike engines to lighten them without making them too weak...Iv'e seen some car/motorcycle piston rods online that are drilled/lightened.....I'm guessing enough weight could be drilled out to make a noticeable power difference without it being too weak. A combination of the rods drilled/lightened and few holes in the piston skirt & maybe piston pin to lighten & increase lubrication I bet would help (not on the Phantom engine but other 2 strokes)
Hey Alex or anyone who has experience... Can I use these Chainsaw Jugs on a 50cc Chinese GY6 Scooter 🛵 to get more power or not really..? Or these just good for Moto-Bike Scene..?
they try to keep the size small, because it's used on a bicycle. that's why you have less cooling fins on the cylinder head. what matters is hold it up to the light, and you can then see the actual cylinder, which is way fatter. just by this video I can tell that cylinder looks more like a soda can(😵👍), then compared to a weed eater looking, tiny little, Big Bite hot dog size 49cc,66cc, & similar 2 strokes. I'm curious about the stroke, if it's still a short stroke of the earlier 66cc, with a soda can piston. I can tell you this, it's definitely not a square motor (square motor = any motor where the bore & stroke are identical, or almost identical in size. either way, the motor is going to be a powerhouse. now another interesting question. have they use the same clutch, or is it an upgraded clutch? I guess I'll just have to finish watching the video (@7:50), and find out. 💢🥴💯
I ordered 1 and it came in yesterday exhust is different doesn't have that little bracing bar on it and mine didn't come with a boefang carburetor it came with a speed carburetor I called the co. bicycle engine they acted like they didn't know what I was talking about I sent them pictures they acknowledged that it was a speed carburetor and not a boefang carburetor and I told them my question was do they both have the same size jet Receptionist said she didn't know and just wished me the best breaking it in?
@@MotoredLife sir I have another question for you about the phantom they say the bottom of the phantom engine is a yd100 on my yd100 the wrest pin bearing is 10mm and on my phantom it's 12mm or did they make 2 different versions?
Ya hurry up and build it and take it across the river to east Peoria and see if will climb the steepest hill in peoria there right beside 74 . It's a residential road but to this day i can't figure out who built houses on that hill couse when it's dry and clear a car can barely go up it so when it snows I'm clueless how people get home couse no flipping way your driving up it .even at that detwiler hill will challenge a motorized bicycle.
Got the engine, got it on bike, got it started, ran really good, on break in run 2 miles ran smooth, let it cool down, torque the head bolt's, second run 1 mile in lost engine power, not getting spark to the plug, what do I check. I'd Check out all wires & got good connections,
They didn't ask me when they were making them! Lol I 100% insisted on the gen2 having needle bearing instead of that crap bushing. They will be out mid next month.
not even close to the same carburetor. the outside is the same size, what matters is that bore diameter. if you look where the throttle cable goes in, that slide is way bigger. oh and there's a little trick, if your engine has a stack of Base gaskets underneath the cylinder, the more gaskets you stack, the lower the compression, horsepower, and cheaper fuel that it can run on. raise it up to 93, put a real thin base gasket on it, you now have a higher compression, more powerful engine. 💯
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I LOVE 2 STROKE ENGINES !!!
These Phantom motors are blowing up Left & right. I know 4 people personally who got ripped for 300 spent hours installing getting stranded and hours tearing down the motor. They aren't happy they aren't lasting long at all
Hell yea me too bro
@@americanpatriot212 lol sucks 2 suck 😂😂😂
@@americanpatriot212 how about yall build your engine correctly and don't push it past its limits. Dum dum 😂😂😂
@@americanpatriot212I don’t belive that lol zeda is known for over heating my friend has issues plus u need to keep em at 20mph breaking it two tanks ur Doing something wrong an it don’t take hours to tear down lol I can tests down engine in 10-15 mins lol
I'm ready for my 3 Rd 80 CC give me info please
Great Video as always Alex .. your very professional and entertaining , awesome job !!!
When is the next vid
When he gets enough views
This should of came out 2years ago... 299 a bit steep in price.
Not necessarily, an ms460 from a builder would cost close to 500$ then after you still gotta but an exhaust & carb setup afterwards
Def cheap price
They BLOW UP DO NOT BUY THE PHANTOM!!!! THEY BLOW UP AFTER ABOUT 50MILES Right around 1tank they aren't making it.
Yessir standard chainsaw design. The piston acts as the bottom of the transfer ports when at bottom dead center, fuel mix sliding by the piston itself and up into the cylinder transfer.
Yup, and the "wings" on the bottom of the cylinder are simply there to seal off the case where the old transfers would be... I am wondering if filling the old case transfers would act like case stuffing. As of right now they are just empty space, but I don't know if the outcome would be positive or negative.
@@LAHover yeah give it a try! If you have an old YD case to experiment with. My hypothesis is that it would not hurt anything at all, perhaps even improve a little bit. I think it would aid to keep gas concise, dense, directed, and channeled with shortest route possible up to the cylinder. Maybe even increase compression a bit like you mentioned similiar to stuffing. But I dont know, I dont have one of these bad boys, so I am just working off of the short videos I have seen and my imagination. Idk, maybe the case transfer ramps there are actually beneficial with this cylinder, allowing like a staging area for gas to hangout before entering cylinder. Maybe one stroke pulls gas from intake into bottom of the case and transfers etc, then the second stroke pulling gas from that upper area transfer ramps area into the cylinder. Lol I have no clue, just imagining and hypothesizing but it is fun to think about. Makes sense this engine is a great performing since that old saying "no replacement for displacement" I bet they will continue to make these top end kits a hair bigger, a hair bigger, every couple of years to squeeze out every penny, rather than making a big jump up to a 100cc and missing out on all the purchases in between.
I'm thinking filling them would be a positive thing that's wat they did back in the day on 2stroke cases to make more compression
Great video as usual Alex, I only wish you'd do them more often, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for videos gizza love these videos, how much is it to buy and can i buy it on line, keep it up thanks 👍
*BEWARE OF THESE MOTORS!!! $300 SAME CHEAP CHINESE PARTS I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN 4 BLOW UP & LEAVE PPL STRANDED BEFORE 75MILES!! They run good for about 30miles then they ARE TRASH!!!*
As I just found out, on a 44T sprocket it will send you into orbit if you are not carful lol. A little pull on the bars and I looped it on day one, it's no joke.
Been wanting to make my first cafe racer moto-bike to piss off the Snooty E-Bikers downtown, and I think this may be it!
Looking forward to your follow-up video.
Hope to see any proper mods that you suggest, as I'm gonna have to take it to a shop, and I need to make a list of things to be done.
I really like your presentation style.
Thank you!
Oh yeah it will piss off snooty people. Some women plug their ears when i ride passed lol.
YES, THat's the Spirit !!! Screw these Snooty e-Tards.
Lol thanks, yeah, it is quite fun to ruffle the fragile faux-feather plumes atop their lofty heads!
Wait till you see my hybrid bike. Gas rear wheel, front E-hub. While you run out of gas I'm still running on electric. When your at a stop I'm leaving you in the dust with electric launch assist because instant torque. Pissing off everyone at night? Turn off the engine and cruise stealth style. Best of both worlds, twice the fun.
@@theenzoferrari458 this sounds like the best of both worlds! Right on, I'll have to do the same. Thank you
Good morning Alex nice new engine I like
We were waiting for it ..!
I wonder if filling those transfer ports would Improve efficiency, it’s really just dead space adding to case volume
I was just wondering the same. Good eye
Definitely help, all that space could be filled in, but now I'm wondering what about opening the transfers to the jug and matching it to the crank case???
@@artofdisguy3401 that's the move myguy
Bullet...it's called FILING not filling; the transfer ports as you say look to be partially closed off by the Crankcase.Grinding there to a polish should definitely help..Trev New Zealand 😊🇳🇿
@@trevinskiking2165 you’re incorrect bruv try again! 🇦🇺
So is this engine good to take on long trips? Is it reliable built good? Also do you know of water cooling kit systems for this type of engine?
Holy crap ur back lol jk glad u posted can’t wait to c u rip it and give a real review best UA-camr in our genre
what part of IL you at?? im up northern IL. glad to see you and Kaos are in IL> makes me happy other people round here enjoy the hobby like i do!! love the bikes and the vids!
If they would sell the cylinder and exhaust together we can just build it with our yd100.
I agree there bro
Give it a bit of time for replacement parts to come out you will be able to
Right
how much was it? if it's any where near as good as you made it seem i want one
299 a bit steep. Imo comes with cheap junk sprocket and chain.
I think the box top you found in your kit is for the piston. Witch is good news because those are cheap and easy to find. I have been looking back and forth at ms460s and although the cylinder design is similar, there are some major casting differences made to this one in order for it to be a direct bolt on cylinder. Thanks for the video!
Hey, it's you
@@thomasardizzone531 :)
Hey!! I love your videos thx for the content
How the clutch is it a better or as good as the bt100 clutch?
I have several motors and for some reason the BT clutch plates or disc are all thicker and have crosshatching and vent holes none of the other motors have that
You know it’s your vid if you makes noises when you take the jug off lol
pretty excited about this motor . about time they come out with a true any thing motor . all this double cc bs . is it a 60 cc or a 80 cc you know what i mean . this is a game changer next will be a true 100 cc . some one is going to have to start making heavy duty frames for these motors soon . i know there is a couple but there both pretty much the same frame . felt faker frames . personally while i do like the built in tank the frame style its self leaves alot of room for improvement not to mention the price . i have not seen a speed test for these yet but im thinking if it is as powerful as claimed bike frames and wheels are going to be under alot of stress . this motor is one to watch for sure . i do hope they break out with a true 100 cc though that would be awesome .
60cc is Chinese measurement for *80CC* its not that hard to figure out for any single celled amoeba brain.
@@theenzoferrari458 well any single celled amoeba brain could figure out what i was talking about to but i understand you fall short in this area . as a American i and all other Americans with half a brain like our sheet to say what it is and be what it says it is . we cant help that the Chinese are a few cc's behind . you pointing out the obvious just proves your intelligence . re read my first comment or have some one explain it for you so you understand it . only a f tard would read what i wrote and not understand what i was talking about . now get back on the porch son adults are talking .
That transfer system is just a whole new level of stupid. This thing is junk.
lol not to sure if there is room for improvement?! Try learning about 2T engines phoney.
Those transfers work just fine on a chainsaw, so why wouldnt they work here? Yessir standard chainsaw design. The piston acts as the bottom of the transfer ports when at bottom dead center, fuel mix sliding by the piston itself and up into the cylinder transfers and then over the top of the piston. I dont know what 2 stroke secrets you're eluding to knowing but this design is standard in big bore chainsaws man.
The cylinder and piston work as an independent transfer system, they don't interact with the case transfers. The wings on the bottom on the cylinder are just there to seal the case where the old transfer circuit would be. Perfect or not it works fine, and has considerably more power than any other china kit I have used.
@@abikelife1481 I know how they work haha. Surprised you can't understand where the flaw is. They only make manufacturing much cheaper.
2 base gaskets because they couldn't be bothered changing the casting to set a new squish or any port durations. They didn't even bother to get the cooling fins reorientated. Would you trust that manufacturer when you're going 50mph+ on a bicycle?
@@joshuaharrison9331 Besides what you just mentioned will you explain what else is wrong ?
Actually it isn’t the biggest, it is one of them though. CDH power sells one with the same displacement. Look up 110cc cdh motor. Plus CDH Power makes there with a steel sleeve to improve life which is nice. I got it because I like tuning and plan to mod the motor to my liking.
Had a chainsaw head and piston put on 59 Allstate moped. Double the power.
These mufflers are junk for this motor!!!! , might as well buy 4 to 6 more mufflers!!!!!!,
Cause there junk , but hey you got money to burn by all means!! I switched to 4 stroke Ghoust Predator motor on phatmoto red white and blue bike, less maintenance, better longevity!, more rideing time!!!! Been in this Hobbie 7 yrs now and wasted to much money!, so do as you plz!
Love this Hobbie fur sure!
Lol you call the electric stuff "goofiness" props to you for that one, 2 stroke 4 lyfe G! Very nice to finally see a piston fully clear exhaust port!
Instantaneous torque from the rip with high speeds and silent operation for not pissing neighbors and people off, is goofy? I love engines as much as the next guy, i have a 2jz in my car and have always loved automotive but electric sccoters, boards, unicycles, and bikes these days are absolutely ridiculous for no reason lmao
@@ghostrider433 electrics are boring imo as a car enthusiast. A proper 2 stroke makes more power and is lighter compared to an electric
@@southtexasspecials175 i've seen custom electric builds with powerful motors. Yes they make tons of power but they have VERY limited range, the charging process is slow and adding more batteries makes the bike very heavy.
If we compare those super expensive electric builds to these cheap 2 stroke china dolls its also not fair.
A Yamaha YZ250 2 stroke engine makes 50HP and with the gas tank will be much lighter than an electric build of comparable power, plus you will have much higher range and no waiting to charge.
@@southtexasspecials175 that is true like if you run a 3000 watt 72 volt motor on a bike you can hit 65 easy and pop wheelies
@@dieselgeezer18 I mean if something goes 60mph and it lasts an hour then that's not that limited but then again you have to factor in mah and what type batteries you use
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I have the V3 on my main bike and the yd100 on my spare bike and I thought the yd100 would come close to the phantom 85 but it doesn't! I like the yd100 but it just doesn't even come close to the phantom 85 in power
I've got a project i'm starting over the winter for my boys. I want to put my tiller motor on their Stingray but I want to keep the 3 speed transmission suicide style . I have one issue and that's the clutch , I guess you could say it's reversed , engaged when the cable is slack . Anyone out there ever try this and if so how much of an issue was it to reverse ?
I don't think I ever had a throttle cable itself go bad. Now them throttle handles can be a diff goofy issue all their own. The YUANG DONG throttles handles for as good a carb as they make can be a real pisser and piece of junk. The Bo Feng carbs are not really potent they need to be jetted and I have had great success doing just that with em. They R a big improvement over the old NT carbs whereas ya either get a good one or a bad one or ya can't get em to seal on the intake necks. I was hoping to see the thing run for my sanity sake the thing looks tempting to buy however owning an engine with one of Fred Chelminskis heads is like having cookies without the milk.
Have one on the way , this video had me buy this engine look beautiful.thanks you guys
Love how they copied saw jug great idear stihl spends thousands on the drawing board deff on ms 660 so y not steel their desighn stihl always has low torque to so great idear
Looks like a strong motor, Alex. The bottom of these engines '' China Doll'' cannot be beaten.
Hi..... You said that you cut the white wire off. Why?..... What is it there for?... thank
The white wire is supposed to be for lights but it kills power to the engine if you hook anything up to it. It's just normal practice to just cut it off.
Do you think the guy that decided to use a bronze bushing instead of a needle bearing on the piston pin got fired? What the heck was he thinking?
good video but just another junk across the ocean motor. also no specs squish band please, how about compression, and that carb what a joke
I would buy just the engine with exhaust carb n reed.
I need some advice on buy a motor. Something that’s already put together.
Are the full kits from Amazon any good for under $200?
The head looks like it's aluminum I assume it is is it yes or no I want steel like the real chainsaw motor aluminum is garbage when it comes to these motors they always fail no matter what
Thank you for doing this!
Can I ask where can I buy that because I want to build my bike to motorized bike,and how much that item
I wish to buy one of your old bikes
Id never buy a motor with the head fins facing the wrong way. That for forced air cooling.
Around my neck oh the woods in PA when we see one goin down main street we say
DUI'S are a bitch lol
Hey 53 is my logo!!!
I can't find the 85 I just bought the 212 cc and its nothing like w stroke
"New style" clutch handle sucks. I ordered an old style and it's way better.
Hay I bought a 💯 cc and the bevel teeth are up and pulled out the bar in side that's it's connected to
Did your phantom 85 blow up like brtv's and lahover's?
I wish motorized bicycles were legal here in Australia 😔 I miss my old stingray and GT kustom kruiser
If the cops don’t catch you, it never happened ;)
Are the stage 6 10 mm wrist pin clips from treatland really good for a Zeda 80 motor?
this motor is crying for an expansion chamber
Hey I have a phantom 85 that I had just bought and I can't decipher if it's a version 2 version 3 my intake cover is black not red I have a bearing on the connecting rod not a bushing. I have just put this together and ready to fire it but am reserved to do so from all the stuff I have read. I need advice and should I use 16:1 for my break in and how long
Ive been using 20:1 on mine for break in. Where did you buy this from?
I've seen 100cc engines would that be faster and better than this? Or should I go with this my bike is a 32" and I weigh 220lbs what would you recommend me do?
The new version that just came out has better bearing and seems to be a powerhouse. The yd100 is a nice reliable engine that you can get parts for right now.
Hey what's price for the phantom 85cc engine kit
Can't wait to see it running, if it's cheap to import here to my country it might just be my first motorized bike project 🤩
Hay great video man. Does the engine come greased?
Alex!!! I need you bro. Where did you get your helmet with the flip visor from... I looked all over Amazon but didn't see it.. help me out with a link please 🥺🥺🥺
What is it with bike and motorcycle people wanting to make as much noise as possible? Why does everyone have to put up with your profencity for loud obnoxious noises?
What kind of noises?
I see a lot of gains to be made with this setup. How they added more meat to the cylinder so you can widen the transfers is a big big plus as well as the intake port angled down. There are a few more pluses I see about this newer style engine that is awesome for the porting nerds.
At what point do these become mopeds or mitorcycles?
I love how well you executed this.. most people don't have good skills with presentations
You could always put the MS460 jug on it
How come your motor came fully assembled and mine I have to put the piston rings in the gaskets and all that on there what's the difference
They come unassembled now. They offer assembly for $30 i think. Better for you that way you know everything is assembled correctly!
It was the absolutely the worst bike engine ever
What Ms motor it is I need a new piston and cylinder head
HOW Much??????there's tons of. Market...rig never last on these things...
rings meant
Hello , how much the motor ? Where Buy?
Already sold out have to wait a couple weeks for the new engines with new bearings
I will have one soon
it says bike ha ha is a bicycle.......hookbait
I would agree that jug is definitely a stihl, I’m not sure what the stud spacing is compared to a larger saw like 070,660,090,880 but I’m sure the large jug could be adapted ofcourse dependent on stroke, and case volume. I don’t know much about these bike bottom ends
At that price shipping should be free. I ordered a set of triple trees from them that are junk. Can't even be used. And now everyones engines are blowing bearings on first rides. Then they out over $300 for an experiment.
Awesome
Goofiness imagine putting a gas engine on a bike that's why u have motorcycles e bikes are cool
Dont tell anyone but I love my himiway its my daily driver and my varla eagle one is still by far the funest most insane thing I own! Lol
Is it possible to flip the jug so the carb is up front
You could, but the case at the bottom doesn't really line up and the reed valve would prevent any ram air effect but yeah you can do it!
Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
I would like to request a riding video
I hope you mount it on a bicycle and test it out on performance and speed.
I’m looking for a 3 wheel bike and motor to mount. I’ll put lights on it. It is for an elderly lady that lives in a small town. She needs a ride to Post Office to get her Mail and to local small store for food.
Disabled, I donate time and mow elderly lawns, etc. thx.
If you know of a good source to buy a used 3 wheel bicycle that is affordable please advise! All elderly are on limited Social Security income and cannot afford anything beyond basics. A few donate money to me to afford gas/oil to mow their lawns.
En pesos mexicanos en cuánto te costo el motor?
Hey I'm looking to have my phantom 85 repaired. It seized up on break in and wanna get it up and going soon.
212 predator is the biggest engine
Did it explode yet like the rest of them ? 110cc 2 peice motor out as well that runs better then these.
where??
2 yrs to switch heads lol NICE
I wonder if you could drill some holes through the 40mm piston rods on common 66cc/80cc 2 stroke bike engines to lighten them without making them too weak...Iv'e seen some car/motorcycle piston rods online that are drilled/lightened.....I'm guessing enough weight could be drilled out to make a noticeable power difference without it being too weak. A combination of the rods drilled/lightened and few holes in the piston skirt & maybe piston pin to lighten & increase lubrication I bet would help (not on the Phantom engine but other 2 strokes)
Hey Alex or anyone who has experience...
Can I use these Chainsaw Jugs on a 50cc Chinese GY6 Scooter 🛵 to get more power or not really..?
Or these just good for Moto-Bike Scene..?
they try to keep the size small, because it's used on a bicycle. that's why you have less cooling fins on the cylinder head. what matters is hold it up to the light, and you can then see the actual cylinder, which is way fatter. just by this video I can tell that cylinder looks more like a soda can(😵👍), then compared to a weed eater looking, tiny little, Big Bite hot dog size 49cc,66cc, & similar 2 strokes. I'm curious about the stroke, if it's still a short stroke of the earlier 66cc, with a soda can piston. I can tell you this, it's definitely not a square motor (square motor = any motor where the bore & stroke are identical, or almost identical in size. either way, the motor is going to be a powerhouse. now another interesting question. have they use the same clutch, or is it an upgraded clutch? I guess I'll just have to finish watching the video (@7:50), and find out. 💢🥴💯
I ordered 1 and it came in yesterday exhust is different doesn't have that little bracing bar on it and mine didn't come with a boefang carburetor it came with a speed carburetor I called the co. bicycle engine they acted like they didn't know what I was talking about I sent them pictures they acknowledged that it was a speed carburetor and not a boefang carburetor and I told them my question was do they both have the same size jet Receptionist said she didn't know and just wished me the best breaking it in?
Both should come with .65 main jets yup!
@@MotoredLife thank you sir I've seen your videos I trust you just don't want any reason for lock up thanks again
@@MotoredLife sir I have another question for you about the phantom they say the bottom of the phantom engine is a yd100 on my yd100 the wrest pin bearing is 10mm and on my phantom it's 12mm or did they make 2 different versions?
Ya hurry up and build it and take it across the river to east Peoria and see if will climb the steepest hill in peoria there right beside 74 . It's a residential road but to this day i can't figure out who built houses on that hill couse when it's dry and clear a car can barely go up it so when it snows I'm clueless how people get home couse no flipping way your driving up it .even at that detwiler hill will challenge a motorized bicycle.
Got the engine, got it on bike, got it started, ran really good, on break in run 2 miles ran smooth, let it cool down, torque the head bolt's, second run 1 mile in lost engine power, not getting spark to the plug, what do I check. I'd Check out all wires & got good connections,
Take the jug off and see if the rings are ok.
Thanks for the heads up, but the engine ended up being a piece of junk.
Waaa waaa waaa failure motors had problems out of the gate. A amateur would have spotted out the issues
They didn't ask me when they were making them! Lol I 100% insisted on the gen2 having needle bearing instead of that crap bushing. They will be out mid next month.
@@MotoredLife thought you took it apart and looked at it. Hope they fix a few other know quality control issues
not even close to the same carburetor. the outside is the same size, what matters is that bore diameter. if you look where the throttle cable goes in, that slide is way bigger. oh and there's a little trick, if your engine has a stack of Base gaskets underneath the cylinder, the more gaskets you stack, the lower the compression, horsepower, and cheaper fuel that it can run on. raise it up to 93, put a real thin base gasket on it, you now have a higher compression, more powerful engine. 💯
Good job Alex. Can't wait to see a running video.
It's called a lock washer.
Kool video bro man. I just got my Phantom engine and will be riding it soon. Hopefully it will be epic 😎
Sorry what is the price
What is the difference between 85 v1 and 85 v3? I was looking for a engine and 85 v3 came out.
If this is the Stihl 660 it has hot factory porting out o the box wick an instant . 440 won't be far behind its a strong hard pulling engine to
Why do you cut the white wire?
Put jackshaft kits on it and send the power to the crank so you have all your mtn bike gears 50 isn't hard to accomplish especially idling at 50